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We're going to call the meeting to order of the City of Port Hueneme and the Oxnard Harbor District Joint City Port Committee. 00:10:57
Of May 28th, 2025. 00:11:03
Umm, Miss Kennen, will you take the role please? 00:11:06
From the city of Port Hueneme we have Mayor McQueen Lyon here. 00:11:09
Mayor Pro Tem Lopez and City Manager Vega here. 00:11:13
From the Port of Wine, Amy, Oxford Harbor District, we have Commissioner Rooney here, Commissioner Zacharias here, and CEO and 00:11:18
Port Director Dicas. 00:11:22
Great. Thank you very much. Did we have any public comment cards? 00:11:27
What is being pulled out right now? 00:11:34
I think he was just a. 00:11:37
Signing in, OK. 00:11:39
OK. The cards OK, perfect. Thank you. 00:11:41
OK, great. 00:11:43
Item D1 are the minutes from our last meeting. 00:11:45
Are there any questions? If not, I'll entertain a motion to approve. 00:11:49
Motion to approve. 00:11:55
2nd thank you. 00:11:57
All those in favor say aye aye. 00:11:58
Very much. 00:12:01
OK, item 2. 00:12:02
Is the community benefit fund overview of the settlement agreement Now I just want to talk to you guys for sex so. 00:12:04
This agreement kind of ties the city and the port, you know, in a lot of different ways and so. 00:12:12
We wanted to include this on here to allow an opportunity for discussion. 00:12:17
In a relatively quieter environment to to allow. 00:12:22
Questions to comments, clarifications, things like that about the agreement, just so we're all on the same page and we can all. 00:12:29
Have any kind of? 00:12:40
If we have a concern about it, it provides the opportunity for the the board to do that. 00:12:42
I just would like to say that. 00:12:48
The city port committee. 00:12:50
Has been around for decades. 00:12:52
And it's the vehicle. 00:12:54
For the two agencies to work together and to do the work, you know, the background work and then take it back to our prospective 00:12:56
boards, so. 00:13:00
It has been the the chosen. 00:13:05
Organization or or or subcommittee. 00:13:11
To allow that to happen. So that's been happening over the decades, long before I was here, long before Kristen was here and 00:13:14
everything. So it's been around a long time. 00:13:17
So that's why we we use the. 00:13:21
This committee to talk about the CBF and then any other items that are that the both agencies would like to talk about. So that's 00:13:25
because kind of the little background about the city port canoe, if I could just add a little background as well. I know that when 00:13:31
I was on the committee for the first time. 00:13:37
It was sporadic. And then last year we we talked about having these meetings more on a monthly basis just to get everybody on the 00:13:44
same page, everybody moving the same direction. I think that that having this particular item on the agenda month after month is 00:13:50
going to help clarify a lot of misunderstandings and help answer a lot of questions. We may not know the answers at, you know, 00:13:57
when we're in these meetings, but it's good to go back to our attorneys to say, you know. 00:14:03
Ruben press this this question kind of came up. Can you please help us clarify? But I, I think that. 00:14:09
Meeting regularly discussing these items will bring a lot of clarification for everyone, which would then extend out to our 00:14:16
community that we are all are moving in the same direction. Yeah, and I mean. 00:14:22
I don't know if it's you, but I don't enjoy paying our lawyer when we don't have to sometimes. 00:14:28
And conversations I think between elected and elected is is very good and staff to staff. 00:14:34
Works out well too, so it gives us just another. 00:14:41
A more relaxed. 00:14:45
Environment to do that, so that's why. I hope you understand why. 00:14:47
We wanted to have that. 00:14:50
On the agenda for each time you know before. 00:14:53
This board didn't meet very much. This committee didn't meet before the 2015 agreement. I mean, it was, it was sporadic and I 00:14:56
mean, we might meet. 00:15:01
Once or twice a year and that was kind of it. 00:15:05
So I think they. 00:15:08
The settlement agreement, the CBF, allows us all that opportunity to. 00:15:11
You know, to talk more and to hopefully. 00:15:16
Reduce any. 00:15:18
Issues before they become a real concern, you know. OK, so. 00:15:20
So I'll tell you, I'm not really sure what specifically you might be talking about. 00:15:24
We. 00:15:29
Absolutely are in agreement that the Community Benefit Fund is. This is the body for that. 00:15:31
And so we've got there different ways, I think how we. 00:15:37
Came to this meeting in preparation on our side versus yours. I'm not really sure what that is. 00:15:41
But that that's OK. 00:15:46
But we have no. 00:15:49
Quorums about. 00:15:51
Having the Community Benefit Fund on the. 00:15:52
Agenda is that amount agreement, settlement agreement. I'm sorry but I think The thing is, is that when when I see the topic 00:15:55
settlement agreement, that doesn't say CBF to me. 00:16:00
No, it's not. 00:16:05
CBF falls under the settlement, I understand that, but as as a revenue sharing and you know every other. 00:16:06
Thing that we talk about, OK. 00:16:14
So I'm just trying to get clarification of what what the topic is right now. So I'll just say this and I think this might be 00:16:16
helpful. 00:16:20
So. 00:16:24
Mayor Pro Tem and I. 00:16:27
Are here as two members of a full body. That's a 5 people. 00:16:28
So whenever we come to a meeting, it's our responsibility to come on behalf of the entire council. 00:16:34
And so that's why I have some trepidation. I would have trepidation to talk about something that we have not already collaborated 00:16:40
with, with the complete body. So that would be my only concern. And I, I don't think it is appropriate for us to do that. 00:16:48
And so. 00:16:56
If we ever get to an item where we feel that we really can't talk about because we have not, we have not gotten the complete board 00:16:57
to agree on what the message would be, we would have to. 00:17:03
Say that and say that we can't talk about it because it's not just our voice. We're representing 5-3 other people. So totally 00:17:10
agree with what you said. I mean, it's the same thing. If that were to come up, I'm not, I'm not sure it's going to be up to come 00:17:17
up today. But if it were to come up, that would be our stance, permanent stance all the time. And I appreciate that. And, and 00:17:25
we're in the same position here where we, we use this body to go and have conversations and then go. 00:17:32
Back to our respective boards and talk about what we talked about here, then come back here again. So it just leads to that open 00:17:40
communication and and open and honest communication that we can have to. 00:17:46
Hopefully. 00:17:52
Answer any questions or provide clarifications and and there is a clarification I want to adjust today. 00:17:53
So. 00:18:01
During the. 00:18:02
Meeting. 00:18:05
Did you guys get you guys saw the minutes I did OK. I saw the is that what triggered your no, no response is because. 00:18:07
You know, we got all these inputs. There's a lot of inputs and. 00:18:15
You know. 00:18:20
I think us as. 00:18:21
Are as a City Council, there was. 00:18:23
You know, we, we asked staff like, hey. 00:18:26
Nonprofit does it have to be a, you know, a non profit? 00:18:29
Could it be you know, there was questions that that. 00:18:32
The the the council members were asking and. 00:18:36
So. 00:18:41
I think we. 00:18:42
Over I I would say over the last. 00:18:44
Two to three years we can't. 00:18:47
The city has. 00:18:49
Staff has cleaned up the process. 00:18:50
Using. 00:18:52
The community advisory. 00:18:55
Commission to. 00:18:57
Kind of vet. 00:18:58
All these. 00:19:01
All these projects right? 00:19:02
Then by the time. 00:19:05
They hand it over to the Council. 00:19:06
It's it's prioritized we. 00:19:09
Kind of do a sanity check on it. 00:19:12
And so it's to me the process is getting. 00:19:15
It's it's better. 00:19:18
Good. 00:19:19
So I was just curious, did you have questions? No, no, no, no. This one is just to talk about the agreement, which we do have a 00:19:20
specific conversation we want to have, but then we can talk about your projects underneath. 00:19:26
#4 and that's OK Yeah, I mean, 'cause not specifically the projects at this point. So. But I I would agree with Commissioner 00:19:33
Rooney, though this is more for clarification because there's been a lot of. 00:19:38
Misinformation out there or misunderstanding. And so we just want to make sure I think that this is the right place to get 00:19:44
clarification. It's not to make decisions because like Commissioner Rooney said, is she and I cannot make decisions for our five 00:19:49
body and say just like you do, but. 00:19:54
This is a place. 00:19:59
For us to take a look at the agreement and address any. 00:20:00
Questions you might have or clarifications that that have that need to be made that have come up. 00:20:05
But nowhere are we saying you have to commit to something because we can't do that either. Yeah. So the idea about talking about 00:20:12
the settlement agreement. 00:20:16
Is that? 00:20:21
As you know, we have staff who attend your your board meetings and committee meetings and things like that. 00:20:23
And so comments may come up. 00:20:30
Where we go, oh, wait, that's not that's not totally correct and so. 00:20:32
That's where we just wanted to. 00:20:37
Maybe provide a little guidance, insight as to intent and, and clarifying the question. So, OK, it's just, it's just an open 00:20:40
dialogue today. OK, that's, that's what we're doing. So if you, if you just let me say this really quick. So I'll tell you the, 00:20:46
the, the Port Wineini City Council and, and I think this is another. 00:20:53
I wouldn't call it an issue, but I would just call it a, you know? 00:21:01
It it or I'll just state that it, it just doesn't allow us to come as prepared as we would like to. 00:21:05
Because as you know. 00:21:11
When we get our agenda and our items, we have everything spelled out and we can read it. So when we come to a meeting, we're 00:21:13
sitting there and we're ready to make decisions. 00:21:17
This is not that. So what happens? I believe for for me. 00:21:21
Is that we have these these agenda items, but there's no. 00:21:26
You know, I mean, there's no information behind it to prepare us to, to actually come or have the conversations that we need to 00:21:33
have before we come in the room. And so that makes it really difficult because I will tell you coming in today and reading. 00:21:41
Just a specific agenda. 00:21:49
Titles it really. 00:21:51
Doesn't give me enough to be prepared for any decision that we might have. I just wanted to share that. Thank you and and this is. 00:21:53
It was meant to be open. 00:22:01
OK. 00:22:04
You know, while we have a couple things we want to talk about. 00:22:05
The agenda item is meant to be open. 00:22:08
So in broad. 00:22:12
So everything that's contained under the settlement agreement, you know, CBF revenue sharing. 00:22:13
You know, all of that stuff that's in there, all the agreements. 00:22:20
It's meant to be open to allow for that dialogue, OK. And then you take that back as both of us take that back respectively to our 00:22:24
boards. And then the next time we go, OK, we want to talk about this a little bit more or we want more clarification on that. So 00:22:30
it's meant to be open and. 00:22:36
And free flowing so So what I'll I'll follow with is. 00:22:42
Let's let's start. 00:22:46
Wherever you like to start and when we get to the point or when I get to the point where I say, hey, there's no nothing that I can 00:22:48
discuss at this moment because my discussion would be my own words. 00:22:54
And I can't have a discussion without fair enough. Let's just go down the path and then when we get there, if we get there, I'll 00:22:59
just make the comment. 00:23:04
Fair enough. Fair enough. OK, great. Thanks a lot. 00:23:09
So. 00:23:12
There was a there have been discussions and you heard from our council who actually wrote the settlement agreement. 00:23:13
And I will share with you. 00:23:21
I feel like. 00:23:23
It could have been. 00:23:24
Presented in a clearer way. 00:23:26
He you know. 00:23:29
He negotiated the contract for a couple of years, I think. 00:23:31
And he knows so much about everything that I think it could have been clearer where? 00:23:35
Everybody was kind of struggling during that discussion. I mean, I watched it and I think that we could have made it a bit 00:23:43
clearer. One of the. 00:23:46
One of the issues that came up was. 00:23:51
The definition of convoy. And so we wanted just to talk about that a little bit. 00:23:53
Under that term. And then the other thing we wanted to talk about is. 00:23:58
The the port owes the city some items regarding. 00:24:05
You know, under this settlement agreement, and the city owes the port some items too. 00:24:10
So. 00:24:15
What we've talked about with our staff is. 00:24:15
Let's shoot for a deadline of January 1st of this year, next year to figure out all that, resolve it and see if we can get 00:24:18
everything that's due to each other. 00:24:24
By that time, and so our staff, we've talked to them. 00:24:31
And they think it's durable from our side and I, I don't know if it is from your side or not. 00:24:35
But we'd like to. 00:24:40
At least shoot for that to kind of start fresh and clear, you know, at the the 1st of 2026. 00:24:42
And resolve some of those issues there. 00:24:47
So can I ask the question as well? So City Manager, I know that we had submitted some documentation in the last couple of years. 00:24:50
Do we have any outstanding? 00:24:54
Items I think it depends on. 00:24:59
How far back? 00:25:02
The port's looking to go. 00:25:05
I know we submitted our required reports this year. 00:25:07
I think from a conversation with Kristen last week is might sounds like the port might be looking for now going backwards which 00:25:11
would be. 00:25:16
Difficult to commit to a date because just frankly, the people that were here at that time are no longer here so. 00:25:22
So I think that would be actually a useful conversation. 00:25:28
You know and. 00:25:31
With a conversation between Kristen and I, one of the things I'm trying to really focus on is moving forward and trying to really 00:25:32
build a collaborative approach moving forward. 00:25:37
And so the question is how far back, how much time do we want to spend looking backwards? So I think that's a question for. 00:25:42
For the two entities. And let me just ask one question. And with that, Mister Vega. 00:25:48
Whatever. 00:25:55
Just trying to get my my mind wrapped around it so as far back as we need to go whatever that date. 00:25:56
Might be. 00:26:03
There are documents from both sides that need to come together. 00:26:04
Yes, so there's. 00:26:07
There's a lot of details in. 00:26:09
All the convoluted agreements, but one of the simple ones is. 00:26:11
The port is supposed to provide their audits to the city, and the city is supposed to provide a report of how the port's funds are 00:26:15
used to the port. 00:26:19
And so Chris and I have talked about it, but when I got here, essentially what I heard from both sides is the other side hasn't 00:26:23
done their part. 00:26:27
So I'm trying to kind of. 00:26:31
We're trying to really work together to just make sure each side is doing its part moving forward. Great, thank you. 00:26:33
May I make one small correction to James statement in our conversation? So I just want to share that. The other thing was James, 00:26:40
that we agreed that we wanted in a different format that tied the actual expenses to the investment, not just the report that was 00:26:46
provided years ago by former city managers, but really have the dollar and cents accounting in the new template. Well, that's 00:26:53
where you know kind of going to. Can we meet a January 1st deadline? The question is what are we providing so. 00:26:59
I know we've talked about trying to make it better, so that's something we were looking to work to do. 00:27:06
But if the question is can we provide the last 30 or 40 years in that format by January 1st, the answer is probably not so. 00:27:13
OK, I'm gonna go. Help me a prayer time, please. 00:27:20
Yes. So is this gonna be city manager? Like, is this gonna? 00:27:22
Are we going to have staff agree to this? 00:27:27
On on how far back we're gonna go. 00:27:30
Well. 00:27:32
No. 00:27:33
From our perspective, the board. 00:27:35
Determine that we'd like to see it back to the inception of 2015 of how that's all been spent. 00:27:38
We we allowed the city to make the decisions on the CBF. 00:27:46
For the first two years. 00:27:51
But it was to decide the projects. 00:27:53
That were aligned with those four items that are outlined in the settlement agreement, you know, the shoreline protection, all 00:27:56
that. 00:27:59
So. 00:28:02
That's this big old sheet on your yeah, which will get you in the in the. 00:28:04
4 We'll talk about this, but. 00:28:12
From our perspective, our board would like to see back to 2015. 00:28:16
So. 00:28:20
That's my concern is. 00:28:22
How far back can we go? 00:28:24
Is that enough time? 00:28:28
Probably not. 00:28:31
I I think that's. 00:28:32
You know, one of the issues for us as a city is we've completely changed for financial reporting software. 00:28:34
As of 2022. 00:28:42
So going back to pre that it's like. 00:28:44
By definition, there's going to be some obstacles and some hurdles there. 00:28:49
So. 00:28:52
It's not something that I think I can commit to a date off hand. 00:28:54
And. 00:28:59
It's something we'd have to we'd have to look at. 00:29:02
And then are are you crystal clear on exactly what they want? 00:29:04
We're going to talk about that under D3, Yeah, I would suggest talking about that through this. 00:29:08
Right, so this is kind of why I made the comments I did before. Sounds like you all have had a lot of discussion about. 00:29:14
Let me just make this comment so it sounds like you all have had some conversation that we have. 00:29:23
Probably not been Privy to because this is the first time we're hearing this. 00:29:29
Right. And that's OK, but that. 00:29:33
And I just want to make sure that for the record, we understand that this was this was reporting was part of the settlement 00:30:06
agreements, OK. And yes, James is a new city manager, totally understand. But that does not take away from the fact that. 00:30:13
The city needed to do their part, and we also needed to do our part. 00:30:21
And so based off of. 00:30:24
The answer right now, then we only have. 00:30:28
4/24. 00:30:31
The report May I make a couple quotes for vacations? I think just. 00:30:33
Because I I lived and breathed this back in the day, Commissioner Rooney was with me, one of the reasons that we inserted the 00:30:40
accounting into the settlement agreement. 00:30:44
Was because there was a concern that there was a gift of public funds for the port because some of the things that were spilled 00:30:48
out in the former agreements were like widening Port Winnemi Rd. which we all know is going to happen. So the intent of this 00:30:54
particular language in the settlement agreement. 00:30:59
Which is. 00:31:05
In Section 13 of the settlement agreement, if you want to look at it, but it speaks to the allowable expenditures and it requires 00:31:06
the written report for the accounting to avoid that perception of gifted public funds. And it was very important to the Board at 00:31:12
the time as we were negotiating the settlement agreement. So that just provides some history. 00:31:17
In terms of the reports, we do have reports that were submitted. 00:31:23
In 2015, sixteen, 1718, we're missing them for 19/20/21 and then 2223 and then we have it in 22, not 23, but we do have it in 24. 00:31:28
But we don't have an informant format that really. 00:31:43
Ties the money. 00:31:47
To what was spent. And that's where James and I just need to sit down. We put together a template. 00:31:49
For his consideration, and obviously he needs opportunity to go back and look at the books and figure out how you really allocate. 00:31:55
What was? 00:32:03
What port money went into want from the general fund? And I am I'm sure it's a little confusing because all the money kind of just 00:32:05
goes into the general fund and then to go back and look at invoices. 00:32:09
As our board would like back up to those expenditures to really figure that out, I would imagine it's a little bit of an exercise, 00:32:15
but we do have a list of. 00:32:19
You know, in our humble opinion, I think we would like to see all the reports. 00:32:23
Agreement on by the December 31st, we are to provide a copy of our audit and then also a report that details the activity of cargo 00:32:58
and our convoy fee. 00:33:03
And we owe reports. I think we had some. 00:33:09
Brain fog from COVID in 2019, it seems that our reporting fell through the wayside. And I think it's 'cause we moved everyone off 00:33:13
campus and things. So we do all the city reports from 2020 to 24, which we are working now with our auditor to ensure you get what 00:33:20
you deserve and entitle to as well. OK, so that's the that's the objective is to get everybody the reporting. 00:33:27
According to the settlement agreement, OK. 00:33:35
And so that's that's one of the items that we talked about and James and I talked about that too. We know we both need to, we've 00:33:39
been working, working towards it. Yeah. And we'll talk about that a little bit later more in depth. We do have a. 00:33:45
A sample of things that we have. 00:33:53
Yeah, just make 2 sort of big picture clarification statements too, and 1 is. 00:33:57
It's sort of related to the the items in the the comment that the items were intended to be broad and open. And the council hears 00:34:04
me say this a lot and I know it's not anything anybody wants to hear, but. 00:34:10
One of the challenges with the Brown Act is the Brown Act is intended to make sure we aren't doing that and it's intended to 00:34:17
really sort and tight tighten up what we're doing so that the public knows what we're going to talk about and has the opportunity 00:34:21
to participate. 00:34:25
So. 00:34:29
As I'm sitting here, I know we don't have the attorneys in the room, but as we're starting to go really into some. 00:34:30
Rabbit holes. 00:34:35
I, I, I would encourage everybody to really give some thought into. 00:34:37
Making sure that we're still compliant with the Brown Act and we're not getting into topics that really aren't typically. 00:34:41
Heard at the joint city Port committee meetings. 00:34:47
And then on the second point to that is. 00:34:50
I also just wanted to report that our City Council actually specifically discussed whether the settlement agreement topic is 00:34:54
appropriate for the city Port Committee and decided not to delegate that to the city Port committee. Could you provide us with 00:34:59
where that decision? 00:35:03
Yeah, so it's made on April 21st. 00:35:08
At that at that council meeting, there was a motion to delegate it to the committee and that motion failed. So we can provide that 00:35:12
that comment, but so I understand the like the desire and that it would be. 00:35:17
You know, simpler if that were the case, but for us just ultimately we don't have authority from the council to discuss settlement 00:35:22
agreement. 00:35:25
Related items I'm going to make some comments because we have our our council review our agendas. 00:35:28
We have never violated the Brown Act with with an agenda that we've had. 00:35:36
A discussion of a settlement agreement. 00:35:42
That's what we're doing right now. 00:35:45
Is exactly what we should be talking about and what this committee is all about this, this agreement ties us. 00:35:49
So. 00:35:54
I take offense to your comments because we are not. 00:35:56
It is a an overview of the settlement agreement. 00:36:02
That's what Community benefit fund overview. 00:36:05
We are under community benefit overview of settlement agreement. Yeah, right. There's settlement agreements in here. 00:36:09
So if if you believe that we are potentially violating the branch in some way, then please provide some language that you think is 00:36:15
appropriate. 00:36:20
We think this is appropriate. 00:36:24
For this discussion. 00:36:26
And just because emotion failed. 00:36:28
Doesn't mean that there was a motion given to not discuss it here. Is that correct? 00:36:31
That is incorrect. 00:36:36
So you would have there was a, there was a motion. 00:36:38
To. 00:36:41
Allow. 00:36:43
Our mayor, Pro Tem and myself to act on behalf of the council and the council, it failed. They did not vote yes for us to do that. 00:36:44
So to do that is against what our own. 00:36:50
Council has. 00:36:56
Requested. We're not asking you to change anything. No, no, no, no, that's not. I think there's some miscommunication as to what. 00:36:57
What city manager was saying, OK, our council has not given us the US. The authority doesn't have anything to do with this body. 00:37:05
Our council because we're representation of the City Council. 00:37:13
Right. And so our City Council. 00:37:16
Did not vote yes for us to come to have further discussion about the. 00:37:19
Not the CBF portion. 00:37:25
But about. 00:37:27
The actual. 00:37:28
Contracts. 00:37:30
Right. 00:37:31
So there, that was voted on and it did not, they did not give us the authority to do that. 00:37:33
That again is why I made the discussion that I made earlier that we're here as representative of the City Council and our City 00:37:39
Council has voted that they do not give us the authority to come here and have the discussions regarding outside of the CBS. 00:37:47
And the contract? 00:37:56
I would like to see that motion that was, that was validated because. 00:37:57
You know, this settlement agreement ties us together, right? And, and, and there are things that. 00:38:03
That your staff. 00:38:10
Your Advisory Council. 00:38:12
Yes, are clearly. 00:38:14
Have a wrong interpretation and that's what we want to clarify. OK, but I mean you just clarified it. You said we have a wrong 00:38:17
interpretation you do and that's what we wanted to clarify on that thing. So I mean to to. 00:38:24
We see, we see council talking amongst yourselves. 00:38:31
And and with your attorney and staff and everybody. 00:38:36
And talking about the contract? 00:38:40
And those items are not. 00:38:44
Accurate. And that's what we're trying to have that discussion to say. 00:38:47
We just want to talk to you about what the intent of this was and what the language is and what. 00:38:52
A definition is, I mean, rather than getting all the lawyers. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm not. I'm not sure. I'm not sure that. 00:38:57
We have. 00:39:05
Said anything about the contract? 00:39:07
I think our last action was we asked our attorney. 00:39:09
To give us a summary of what the contract said. 00:39:13
She did that. We had further questions, you all responded. We've had discussion, but at any time have we determined that the 00:39:16
contract needs ABCD? 00:39:22
We have not done that. 00:39:27
So if you believe that, we're acting. 00:39:29
How we but what on what we believe the contract says? 00:39:32
That is, that's not true, because we haven't even gotten there yet. 00:39:36
Well, so. 00:39:40
There may be some, there may be, there may be some things that you may have heard and perceived that, but we have not come to any 00:39:42
decision as to what the contract really says. We still have questions, Matt and that's and that's it. So there are questions and 00:39:47
we had hoped that we could help. 00:39:53
You know, provide some sort of answer to that. And we do. We do want answers. 00:39:58
But we are not prepared to do that. 00:40:05
Today. 00:40:08
In what venue would you like to have the answers? Well, it's not about the venue, it's about the authority that the council gives 00:40:09
us. 00:40:13
To have the discussions and the body has not given us the authority to do that. 00:40:17
But I do have a technical question because we're not making decisions right? We're we're just educating ourselves. 00:40:22
On the contracts and I'm still learning OK and based on the conversations is. 00:40:29
You too, Martha, you've been on a little bit longer than Jess. Really need help in this particular area, right? 00:40:35
And so I don't see personally, I don't see anything wrong with. 00:40:42
Having this item on the agenda for educational purposes so we can all I still go back to we all need to be on the same page. We 00:40:46
need all need to understand. 00:40:51
The same. 00:40:56
Definition of what a convoy is or what a computing benefits fund is, and to me, this is the perfect venue. So when we have 00:40:57
community members that show up, they also understand. 00:41:03
You know what we were at that meeting, this is the educational component of this particular meeting and this is what we learned 00:41:09
about this particular section about of the settlement agreements. 00:41:14
But but we're not making decisions like Commissioner Rooney said is that. 00:41:19
We too cannot make decisions. We could say yes, are we going to have the reports? Yes. We are behind our reports. OK, Staff is 00:41:23
working on that. 00:41:27
That's not necessarily a discussion, it's just OK A we learned reports are still outstanding, but both sides. 00:41:30
OK, be OK. We all are gonna learn the definition of a convoy. OK then. But but it's not. We're not making decisions. 00:41:37
On behalf of our bodies. 00:41:46
But we're educating ourselves and that's the part that I think. 00:41:48
It's most challenging because. 00:41:51
From me personally as Kristin's lives and breathes this. Marianne was at the table when all this was being decided, So what better 00:41:54
people? 00:41:58
To have. 00:42:02
Help educate us, bring the experts in that were there to help clarify these issues, and then we'll all be moving once again in the 00:42:03
same direction. But we're not making decisions for our respective bodies. 00:42:09
Yes, so. 00:42:17
You guys saw our meetings specifically on. 00:42:20
Settlement agreements. 00:42:25
If there was anything incorrect. 00:42:27
That was said. 00:42:29
I mean, you guys had your own. 00:42:33
Your own attorney. 00:42:35
Answer those emails. 00:42:38
From the questions that we. 00:42:40
And then you you brought in. 00:42:42
The the original attorney who actually wrote the settlement agreement. 00:42:44
If there was anything incorrect. 00:42:49
That should have been a staff. 00:42:51
And for us to hold on another future agenda items so then we can. 00:42:53
We can discuss. 00:42:58
To the whole Council. 00:43:00
So what? 00:43:02
That, that's what I'm like. 00:43:05
If if something needs to be said that that wasn't crystal clear. 00:43:08
Take it to. 00:43:13
Bringing it for bringing a. 00:43:15
Public comment so that we can take it for action. 00:43:19
Well, OK, so public comment, we get 3 minutes to talk about it, right? 00:43:22
And so that's not enough. 00:43:26
Will allow for. 00:43:31
For discussion. 00:43:33
Yeah, I mean. 00:43:34
The thing is. 00:43:36
We had hoped that the City Port meeting would give us the opportunity to talk about it and then decide an action of course of 00:43:39
action, right. 00:43:43
Because like. 00:43:47
For example. 00:43:48
You have one council member. 00:43:50
Who's stating that? 00:43:52
You're renegotiating contracts with car manufacturers, saying it in public. 00:43:55
That's why I say there's misinformation. 00:44:01
That is out there. I mean, saying that you're renegotiating with car manufacturers to get a better deal. 00:44:03
And then you have another another committee who's talking about. 00:44:09
Well, all this money is our money. 00:44:14
Which is not accurate. 00:44:17
So that's why I'm saying there are there are times that happened. That was the CAC meeting. So it wasn't that council, right. 00:44:18
So where is that vehicle? I mean, do we need to go back to City Council every time that we have an issue that comes up like this 00:44:25
or is this the venue for you to go back to your colleagues to say? 00:44:31
Look. 00:44:37
Here are these comments that have been out there and and that are. 00:44:38
We need to look at how that aligns with the settlement agreement. 00:44:43
Because those two examples. 00:44:47
Are are my examples that I'm using to say that that there are people. 00:44:49
Who are representing the city? 00:44:54
Who are misinformed as to what the contract? 00:44:56
So. 00:45:00
I'm ready to hear the other items that you have. 00:45:01
But I do just want to make it very clear, and I've said this three or four times in in public meetings. 00:45:05
May have had conversations with folks. 00:45:11
About this topic. 00:45:15
But if we have a council member. 00:45:17
That is speaking. 00:45:19
The wrong information. 00:45:22
As an individual, as a, as someone who has. 00:45:26
The the Let me see First Amendment right to public. 00:45:33
To to speak free speech. 00:45:36
We can't. 00:45:39
A council cannot. 00:45:41
Tell one person what he can or cannot say unless he's going outside of some legal bounds, then we can. 00:45:45
And so I just want everyone to know. No single. 00:45:53
Council member speaks. 00:45:56
For the body of the Port Hueneme City Council. 00:45:58
Not one person does that. 00:46:01
And when it comes to when it comes to a point when someone steps out of bounds. 00:46:04
Know that. 00:46:10
That, as the current mayor, I will speak up. 00:46:12
But until someone does that. 00:46:16
We have no authority. 00:46:19
To stop someone from talking on the council. 00:46:21
We just can't do that. 00:46:24
And and and we and we can't. 00:46:25
As you just spoke. 00:46:28
We don't have the ability or the knowledge to be able to correct. 00:46:30
Right. 00:46:35
Since since we don't know what the contract is saying. 00:46:36
So I just kind of heard that you have, you know what it it says, we don't really understand it. So we don't even have the 00:46:40
authority or the knowledge to be able to check. 00:46:45
Someone who speaks on the dais. So just I just want people to understand that the count, the body part where the City Council is 00:46:50
five people. 00:46:54
If you hear something that's incorrect or something that's not true or something that maybe. 00:46:58
Rubs you the wrong way. 00:47:05
The body is five people, so if as a council, or at least three people. 00:47:07
If three people. 00:47:13
Isn't isn't saying it then it's nothing that. 00:47:14
We would hope. 00:47:18
That you all hold against us because that's just not our job. 00:47:19
Yeah, I guess this was. 00:47:23
She was speaking at a a service club. 00:47:27
And gave inaccurate information as the City Council members speaking in front of a service club. 00:47:30
Right. OK. So I mean there is incumbent upon all of us as elected officials is that? 00:47:35
We need to accurately report out. 00:47:43
What is what's happening? And this was totally inaccurate what she was saying. 00:47:45
Specifically, if you're a council member and you're representing the city, we hope that people would be speaking the truth and 00:47:52
saying the right things, but we really don't have. 00:47:56
The authority to manage. 00:48:01
What people say and police what people say. 00:48:04
Right. We just don't have that. 00:48:07
Again, we hope that that is not happening. If it is happening, it is happening. I I. 00:48:09
I you know I can't help with that but. 00:48:15
Well, you know, we, we don't have any control. 00:48:17
Part of the part of the issue, and I was going to bring this up under council member comments, but. 00:48:20
Committee comments. 00:48:26
It makes it difficult. 00:48:28
To have candid conversations when people are talking. 00:48:31
And and and and. 00:48:36
Seen misinformation or. 00:48:38
Or showing direct bias to our agency, you know, so it makes it very difficult for me. So if I'm not opening. 00:48:42
As much as I would like to be with you, that's why. 00:48:50
Yes, it's because. 00:48:53
There are now 2 council members who are doing this and. 00:48:54
That makes me. 00:48:58
Hesitant. 00:48:59
To do you have candid conversations with the setting. So just saying I got it so and I totally understand your position about the 00:49:00
the three members, OK. 00:49:04
So what we wanted to talk about was the definition of convoy because that seems to be a lot of conversation and and how things go 00:49:08
around. 00:49:13
So, Mysticus, I'd like to turn it over to you to open it up about the convoy discussion, please. 00:49:19
Yeah, just from Washington City Council, it did seem there are a lot of questions around convoys. So this again, this is not to 00:49:25
make decision or anything, but just kind of. 00:49:29
Point you to what is in the contracts and Michelle? 00:49:34
Has copies of it. 00:49:37
But one of the important things that really was in the sell agreement and this is on on the first agenda item. 00:49:41
Michelle, just pass it out. I'll walk him through it. Thank you. 00:49:50
Thank you. 00:49:54
Was to not. 00:49:56
Dispute past practices and move forward, right? Not bring up all these challenges again about what convoy fees are. 00:49:58
What? Umm. 00:50:06
Revenue sharing is what gross operation or gross operation it was agreed really the spirit of the settlement agreed was to not. 00:50:08
Contestants, I understand is new elected officials. You want to get educated and understand what these contracts mean and how they 00:50:15
feed your revenues. 00:50:19
But the agreement was to not challenge what past practices were. I mean, in all bodies unanimously agreed to this in the 00:50:22
negotiations and what ultimately became. 00:50:28
The settlement agreement. 00:50:33
Even in my discussions when I was at City Council, there were City Council members that were. 00:50:35
Rather aggressive, you know, Mr. Gone was a little bit aggressive in about what a convoy is suggesting it could be a truck. And so 00:50:41
I just think it's just for pure clarification purposes to point you to the contract it originally. 00:50:49
Came up. 00:50:56
In the 1987 agreement. So if you look at page 2 of this document. 00:50:57
A lot of colors on there. Yeah, a lot of colors on there. 00:51:04
Is where it introduced this idea of a convoy fee, and it says each car convoyed, each motor vehicle convoyed. 00:51:08
And then the 1987 agreement. It cites Section 11 for the. 00:51:16
Definition it says automotive, automobile, convoy. 00:51:20
And so it's just very clear in this document of the 1987 agreement, this was not attended to mean trucks, cars on trucks. It was 00:51:24
for each individual car. 00:51:29
That left the main gate of the port and it's. 00:51:34
Just spelled out here. And then if you go back to the very first page and tying back into the settlement agreement. 00:51:37
The agreements, uh. 00:51:44
It says. 00:51:46
The the parties acknowledge and affirm that for the duration of the term of the 1987 and 1995 agreements, District may continue 00:51:47
its past and existing and ongoing course of practice for competency for the vehicle convoy is set forth in the agreement. So it 00:51:53
was just clearly spelled out here to try and not debate and I know that. 00:51:59
You're not authorized to have. 00:52:05
Any decision making authority or anything, but we just wanted the opportunity here today to really point out what the intent of 00:52:09
the agreement was. It was really about. 00:52:13
The vehicles going down the streets out of Winnemi Rd. 00:52:17
And. 00:52:21
Interestingly, if you look at how these the mechanics of these agreements. 00:52:22
The revenue sharing agreements for everything that comes through the port. So it's cars and it's all the containers and it's 00:52:28
everything that we do. So this convoy fee is actually another fee that you already get money on cars, but it's another convoy fee 00:52:34
that you get on top of those revenue sharing agreements for the cars going down. Winnemi Rd. 00:52:41
And these cars were unlicensed. So it was like a permission slip to move the cars down the street. And that was the intent. We 00:52:48
just wanted to share that and clarify and happy to go before the board with lawyers, whatever it takes to answer the questions. 00:52:52
But if you really look at the. 00:52:57
Language of the agreement. I think you copy pasted it in 'cause it says the patties. 00:53:02
Acknowledge instead of the parties. 00:53:06
The Boston Patties The Patties, but. 00:53:09
The IT clearly says vehicle. 00:53:14
Automobile. Automobile, The language does not refer to trucks and so we just wanted the opportunity to share that. 00:53:16
Convoy is actually a verb at this point. It's not a noun. So it's it's convoying them down their own. So, so we just wanted to 00:53:22
provide that. And I do have a technical question for Mystikas or Mr. Yang is. 00:53:29
Is there a spreadsheet that shows the funding that the court has given the city via? 00:53:37
Convoy in a cars that the actual vehicles and up and above that's the reports we owe. Oh that's reports yes, OK. 00:53:42
Because that that'll help clarify. 00:53:51
The additional up and above money that the city receives. 00:53:53
Did you have any follow up on the convoys? 00:53:56
OK, alright. 00:54:00
And then I think we already talked about the reporting requirements, so. 00:54:02
We will. 00:54:07
Austin's gonna be working on that, so. 00:54:08
We appreciate that and then we'd love to hear back from from your staff as to when they think it might be doable and, and 00:54:11
reasonable. 00:54:15
So maybe that's. 00:54:20
Certainly fine. 00:54:21
OK. 00:54:23
Gonna did you have anything else? Miss tickets? No. 00:54:23
OK, Thank you. I do agree with. 00:54:26
I think Mystika's that said do the reporting backwards. 00:54:28
I'll start with the most current, most current year, OK. 00:54:32
OK. You OK with that? 00:54:37
OK. All right. Thank you very much. 00:54:39
But you want to turn your microphone. 00:54:43
Is are you OK with? 00:54:46
The format. 00:54:49
Timeline. 00:54:50
Yeah, Kristen and I have been working on a format. So what I'd say is next meeting, we will aim to come back with what we can 00:54:51
reasonably accomplish. We've got a format under the next item so we can talk through and see if there's anything going to change. 00:54:57
Yeah. So, so James and I meet every other Friday and so I brought the template in. We have a couple tweaks to it. James will bring 00:55:03
it to you and we'll sit down. We'll work through that together to make sure. 00:55:09
It will reflect the the. 00:55:15
The will of the contract in terms of the templates and ours is interestingly a little more. 00:55:17
Specific in terms of the audit piece of it. 00:55:21
And and our audit testing it so to speak, but ours is just more figuring how to get the the. 00:55:24
Money. 00:55:29
It's clear that the money gets assigned to the. 00:55:30
Whatever deliverable the city is providing for that funding. 00:55:34
I'm going to move to item 3 so we can discuss this item under the appropriate category item. 00:55:37
We're on item three. I just have a technical question. So Mr. Yang, we owe the city the reports from 2020 to 2024. 00:55:46
Yeah. So we have like, you know. 00:55:55
Requirement for 2 reports. One is financial audit which is all completed in all compliance. 00:55:57
Another another one is Activity Report Mystique as mentioned. 00:56:03
That include convoy, the number of cars Convoy is over city Street. 00:56:07
And another one is Cargo. Tony's report. 00:56:12
So. 00:56:15
That report is missing from 2020 through 2024, so I'm definitely working to get that done. So we'll report back and can, OK. So as 00:56:16
far as your timeline, you'll get back to us on the timeline to be able to fill those reports, Yes, OK. 00:56:23
But but. 00:56:31
How about where we don't owe the city any money, we've been paying the the city their money on time. Yes. OK. So we like in on a 00:56:33
monthly basis. We are making four different payment for 8380. 00:56:39
8795 and convoy fee. So she is receiving 4 checks every month. OK, perfect. Thank you. OK, so the compliance. 00:56:46
Piece under item number 2. 00:56:57
Is this in our packet here? Is this what you want to talk about? 00:56:59
So, yeah, Commissioner, and. 00:57:07
City Council members, this is just something that. 00:57:10
We put together to help demonstrate to the city. 00:57:13
What the Commissioners would like to see as a result of the sediment agreement I. 00:57:17
The Mr. Vega has a different interpretation of this because it didn't have the dates on it, but that's come back to my attention 00:57:22
as feedback that I would like that in the accounting as well. So this is something that James honestly and I are meeting in on 00:57:28
Friday and we agree we really want to collaborate together, get these documents where they need to be. I think our. 00:57:35
Goal is to certainly have this this information that's required by the contracts put together and it's probably going to take the 00:57:42
city a little bit of time to do this because going back to 2015 and finding invoices as things is going to be a challenge. 00:57:48
On our side, we have our audits and offers. It's a little easier to produce these reports. 00:57:55
So this is the first time I've seen this. 00:58:00
Document. So it looks like it's. 00:58:03
Allows for which? 00:58:07
Category. 00:58:09
On here. 00:58:10
The categories that are defined in the. 00:58:14
Settlement agreement, right? 00:58:18
Yes, that's a great 1-2 and three. 00:58:21
Category 4 isn't on here. 00:58:25
For the other. 00:58:27
Which there seemed to be a lot of those, well, I believe like, you know. 00:58:30
The CB app has four different categories, but revenue sharing has only three categories. 00:58:33
Oh, this is for the revenue sharing. OK, OK, thank you. OK. So all right, so the revenue sharing portion of the settlement 00:58:39
agreements. 00:58:44
That's what this is referring to specifically, OK. 00:58:50
So. 00:58:54
If you want to peek at it and have any comments on it. 00:58:56
The only thing I would like to see is that along with project title is more of a description of what the project was. 00:59:00
Because the title may be a little bit different, I think description gives a little bit more idea of what. 00:59:07
What actually happened? 00:59:12
So. 00:59:14
I like to make a comment. 00:59:17
The so there's a project title, the date, but when? 00:59:22
When was it completed? 00:59:27
Ah, good point. 00:59:28
Maybe like an initiated and completed day? 00:59:31
OK. 00:59:35
OK, OK. 00:59:41
And you can take us home and chew on it and provide feedback. 00:59:44
We just wanted to try to align it so it makes it pretty. 00:59:50
Straightforward, yeah. 00:59:53
OK. 00:59:55
Any other comments on that? 00:59:56
No, no. OK, Thank you. OK, good. All right. Thank you, Masigas. 01:00:00
Mr. Vega, did you have any questions on that? 01:00:05
No. 01:00:08
OK. Thank you. 01:00:09
All right, so now we'll move on to item 3, the Community Benefit Fund financial update. 01:00:10
The stickers, OK. 01:00:19
So this large spreadsheet. 01:00:22
In Front of You was put together by Austin's team. I think they did. 01:00:25
A wonderful job and I think it was a lot of back and forth with. 01:00:29
Mr. Vega's accounting team as well, to really try and reconcile all the funding dating back to the very inception. 01:00:32
Of the of the CBS Fund. 01:00:40
Dating back to when the first two years even when it was discretionary. And so the way this spreadsheet has been put together 01:00:44
there's. 01:00:47
If you go to the very end. 01:00:51
You can see the key here. 01:00:54
So all the lighter pink. 01:00:56
Are items that still require invoicing. 01:00:58
The blue are being processed by OHD and that's the Bard statue. And then to be implemented are things like the DC trip, economic 01:01:02
development strategies, and those sorts of things are the 122,000. So they're all obligated. 01:01:10
And then it's just there, there's certain ones that still need some invoicing, whether the invoices from the city or actually we 01:01:18
need it from the nonprofit. 01:01:23
So we do. I think this one's pretty close, James. We agreed the last time I shared this with you. It's pretty accurate. We're 01:01:28
we're very close. Yeah, Yeah. 01:01:32
I bet this took a long time to put it all together. It's a lot of information so. 01:01:40
But yes, it's every single project and I think it's a nice accounting list for us all to have two and we can share it with all our 01:01:45
bodies, but it really shows every single investment of the CB fund since it's an inception. 01:01:50
It's a close without. Is it opened and where it is in that process? 01:01:55
Great. Thank you for the hard work on that and. 01:02:08
I'm sorry to have that going forward. 01:02:11
OK, Item 4 is the Community Benefit Fund project update. 01:02:14
So we did receive a copy of your recommendations here. 01:02:20
That we have that. 01:02:26
And I wanted to share with you that. 01:02:27
Our board has met to. 01:02:29
Talk about this and and what we would like to see. 01:02:32
And so during our visioning workshop. 01:02:36
We wanted to move back to more of what the original intent of the agreement was to the first 3 categories. 01:02:40
The 4th category was really designed for a catch all in the event that both organizations wanted to do something outside of those 01:02:49
3 categories. 01:02:53
And what we have talked about is that it seems like we've moved everything to the other and not to the first three of those. 01:02:58
Of the settlement agreement. 01:03:06
Our board, we don't have any specifics in mind, specific projects in mind. 01:03:08
However, we just wanted to share with you that. 01:03:14
We believe a priority is the DC. 01:03:18
We also support the Banana Festival and the Beach Festival contributions. 01:03:22
And then we feel very strongly about economic development and helping the city. 01:03:26
Increase your economic development. 01:03:32
To bring more revenue in and then also grant writing support. So those items are. 01:03:35
Our priorities for us as we look at what that goes through so. 01:03:41
To go through these today, I mean we have your list. We don't have any projects specifically yet to come back to you with. 01:03:47
You guys you guys hosted? 01:03:55
Via the CBF last year the FIRST Robotics you didn't mention it the. 01:03:58
Are you going? 01:04:04
To bring that forward? Don't know. 01:04:06
So we we were having. 01:04:08
Our second vision workshop that's gonna be in August, July. 01:04:11
July. July. 01:04:16
So we have some conflicts in June, so we aren't going to have the discussion about the projects until July. So our meeting there 01:04:18
in July, is it right before our our third week. OK, yeah, the third week, third Monday, actually the second week due to the. 01:04:26
Delegation trip. 01:04:35
OK. 01:04:36
So we should have something by our city port meeting by the end of July. 01:04:37
That we can come back with some projects at that point and then we can flush those out. 01:04:42
OK. And I think all the things that you mentioned. 01:04:47
Part of. 01:04:54
This is OK. No, this is the. 01:04:58
Just the the list that we have. 01:05:01
All those items. 01:05:06
Everyone. 01:05:07
Banana. The Beach Festival, The Wellness. 01:05:09
And then we have the grant. 01:05:13
Funding from last year. 01:05:16
Or the grant writer. 01:05:19
So, so technical question. OK, She wasn't finished. Yeah, you mentioned. 01:05:23
Economic development in last year. 01:05:36
I say last year I'm talking about. 01:05:40
This is the 2023 current year. 01:05:42
So most of the things that you said are a part of. 01:05:46
What we have? 01:05:50
Pull up into that. 01:05:52
Good, good. And I see we we didn't include the Wellness event, but we did talk about that. So we wanted to continue the support on 01:05:54
that. So but I wanted to just share with you that those were the priorities that the board talked about right now and we will come 01:06:01
back with some programs that we see that go along that so. 01:06:07
This may be a little premature to talk about this today. Are you OK with that? 01:06:15
Thank you. 01:06:21
Is to implement. 01:06:23
A different process this year where we went out to the community and. 01:06:25
Input.com that. 01:06:30
The inputs from the. 01:06:33
Residents of the community. 01:06:35
Does not dictate whether. 01:06:37
We approve them or not, that was not, we didn't approve them because they were from the community. At any time that something else 01:06:41
came comes up, we can make that adjustment. But we did think that over the years we had. 01:06:47
Just just through our own personal knowledge of what we believed was out there is how we went about. 01:06:54
Choosing. 01:07:02
Right. And so we thought that there is most likely more in the community than what we know about. Therefore we wanted to institute 01:07:03
this new process to. 01:07:08
Provide so that the community could provide things that we may not have any knowledge about. 01:07:14
So that's why we went to the new process this year. And of course, you know, it went through the. 01:07:18
The citizen advisory committee. 01:07:23
And so this is our recommendation at this point, understanding in this body, we'll have some dialogue and items may come off, the 01:07:25
values may change. So we know all that is part of the process. 01:07:31
But this is this is what we have to submit. OK, thank you. I do have a question for clarification purposes. The 50,000 that we 01:07:37
allocated to a grant writer that was under what budget 2223 paper here. 01:07:43
If I may, yes, that's last fiscal years budget, fiscal year 20/24/2024. OK. That was for a grant writer, right? Yes, correct. OK. 01:07:49
And then 30,000? 01:07:55
Was last year we had leftover? 01:08:01
And we allocated that for economic development. Yeah. And I think in these meetings, we agreed that wayfinding signs were going to 01:08:04
be the low hanging fruit for that particular funding. And I know that you're working on renderings, James, correct? Yeah, 01:08:10
renderings that we'd bring back, Yeah. OK, great. So that's and then so on the 50,000. 01:08:16
Has the city had an opportunity? 01:08:23
To think about. 01:08:26
Grant writing opportunities that that you're interested in doing. Have you had the discussion or I just don't want that money to 01:08:27
sit there without some conversation moving. 01:08:32
Forward. 01:08:36
On some grant opportunities. 01:08:38
Yes. So we we have talked about it. We did have a conversation about our economic development plan at our last meeting. 01:08:41
And so we did talk about moving forward some. 01:08:50
Strategies for that, but we haven't. 01:08:56
Decided specifically, OK, what the money is being used for. So no, it's, we know it's there and we're talking about it. And the 01:08:59
reason I bring that up is because I still go back to one of our grants that we applied for at the at the port where we were able 01:09:06
to incorporate real school district, Oxnard College and Cal State Channel Islands. So let's think outside the box when we're 01:09:13
thinking about the these grant opportunities to try to engage more of our community. 01:09:20
And also it when you go before a Grand Tour is they look at OK, who's at the table, who are the additional partners that they're 01:09:27
gonna make this happen. So let's let's think outside the box, but. 01:09:32
Then with regards to your economic development plan. 01:09:39
Any idea are you when you're gonna revisit that? So we, we as a Harbor District board could start thinking about, oh, you know, it 01:09:42
would be great to partner with them on this, on this. Have you? Yeah. Again, we just spoke about that at our last council meeting. 01:09:47
City manager is going to be doing some looking back at that and bringing some information to us. So we'll be, we'll have something 01:09:53
soon. We hope to have something soon. 01:09:58
OK, so. 01:10:05
The one benefit of having a port here right next to the city is that. 01:10:07
We can apply to different pools of money. 01:10:13
Yeah, that the city can't do on its own, right. And I mean same with the other cities and counties around here. And so that's a an 01:10:15
extreme benefit for us to work together to say, OK, let's go after this pool of money under the port. 01:10:22
You know that's how we got the the overpass at Rice Rd. right? That was the port intermodal. 01:10:30
Grant And so that would have happened had the court not been a part of that, right? We can do the same thing with the city, and we 01:10:35
want to do that, and we've done that historically. 01:10:40
Built the city into our grants that's how your original dogs came about actually heard about that way long ago yeah so there's. 01:10:45
There's a real advantage to that, and that's why we think that grant writing is a priority because. 01:10:54
That can be a real benefit to both agencies, though we, you know, going along with Commissioner Zacharias, it's. 01:11:00
It's a great opportunity for us to think broadly and to come up with innovative ideas. And I mean, how exciting would that be? I 01:11:06
agree. 01:11:10
Another technical question, do you go dark in the summer? Any months? 01:11:14
We go and after Christmas we this year we're trying something different we. 01:11:18
Are we're holding a meeting each month in the summer, but over the summer? 01:11:24
July and August were only holding the second meeting of each month. So we won't we'll be dark the first meeting of each month of 01:11:28
July and August. And the reason I ask that is because I was just thinking we've got, we're 3. So June we've got June, July, 01:11:33
August, September we're planning the DC trip. So we only have three months to come up with an itinerary or items to advocate for 01:11:39
in DC. 01:11:44
And so I know that that's gonna go back and forth. So I think that those discussions need to start sooner rather than later. I 01:11:50
know that Mississippi has been talking to. 01:11:54
Our partners in BC stop you here 'cause this is under agenda #5 So OK, OK conversation. We'll bring it up a little bit later, so. 01:11:59
Yeah, so. 01:12:08
Just to clarify, the shoreline protection community develop. 01:12:11
Development on opportunistic adventures, that's what adventures that is where we would like to move back toward. 01:12:16
Where the CBF funds go for that? 01:12:23
Just. 01:12:26
Just to reiterate the. 01:12:28
The Community Benefit Fund may have a semantical. 01:12:31
Difference of opinion. 01:12:36
The communities. 01:12:39
That it is mentioned in this title here is the City of Port Wayne, DB and the Oxnard Harbor District. That's the committee, the 01:12:41
community that we're talking about. That was the intent of the agreement. 01:12:46
And inside of that agreement talks about. 01:12:52
That. 01:12:55
Both of us can utilize those monies to serve. 01:12:55
The area that we represent. 01:13:00
So there will be. 01:13:02
I'm sure things that happen in Oxnard. 01:13:04
Because that is our. 01:13:07
Our district that we represent, so that's what the agreement talks about. 01:13:09
So that will probably come up too. Sure. Can I ask you one question though? So last year when we went through this process, your 01:13:13
attorney was here and he was sharing. 01:13:19
The information about the four areas. 01:13:25
I remember asking him a specific question because the same topic came up about area #4 and so my question not. 01:13:29
Verbatim, but my question really was about. 01:13:37
Item number 4 is part of the contract. 01:13:40
Right. And so we as a body. 01:13:43
Get to decide if. 01:13:46
We have items in. 01:13:48
Items in area #4 or not? 01:13:50
So my question to you is with your comment that you all. 01:13:53
You know the port would like to focus on the three areas. Can you build a little more clear? 01:13:57
Are you saying that you won't approve items in #4 or are you saying? 01:14:04
That you want all of our items to be in one through 3. 01:14:08
Well, what we have today, OK. So if you look at all of these items that in the past. 01:14:12
You know, they go more toward the. 01:14:20
The other, yes, right. And so in reading back through the agreement, I mean, it's a subtlety, but it said if a project or project 01:14:22
cannot be agreed upon. 01:14:27
Which led me to think. 01:14:33
Well, we were just looking at. 01:14:35
A project or projects, right? 01:14:37
And in this case, there's like 10 or so, right? And so we've had the discussion amongst our board to say. 01:14:39
No, we were really just thinking about a project or two to work on jointly. 01:14:46
So this was supposed to be fun, OK, yeah, thank you. At the at the end of the the lawsuit and the settlement, this was supposed to 01:14:51
be something where our boards could come together and do something fun with a little. 01:14:57
Money that's set aside for this, that was impactful for both agencies. That was the intent, OK. And we feel like we've gotten away 01:15:05
from that and that's where. 01:15:10
Do we say no? Right. It's nothing's gonna be there? No. Yeah, I'm not saying that at all. Let me just moving back to it. Yeah. But 01:15:16
let me, let me let me tell you why I'm really asking the question. 01:15:21
Because you all are the Oxnard Harbor District, right? 01:15:27
So you have a huge. 01:15:30
Geographical area that you support in these areas where the city of Port Hueneme. So we really try to be focused in our area and 01:15:33
then when we try to determine what are the items. 01:15:39
In areas one through three that we can. 01:15:46
Do for our city or help with our community, it becomes a little harder than it is for you and so I just want you to keep that in 01:15:50
mind as you go through our items. 01:15:54
And review our items. Yeah, well and see it so. 01:15:59
Your items are not yours and ours are not ours, Right, Our submission. 01:16:04
But I mean the intent of this was that. 01:16:07
We work on something together that benefits both agencies, right? So as we look at projects. 01:16:11
Yeah, that. 01:16:17
Both agencies. 01:16:18
Benefit from that, right? And I, I saw this yesterday and I started looking through it and I'm like, huh, well, some of these are 01:16:20
interesting and I'm wondering how's the port benefit from some of these? And that's where it's kind of lost, right? 01:16:26
I mean, I'm not sure how we benefit from. 01:16:33
Improving the CRM suite. 01:16:37
For the city, OK, maybe we do we get information or something, I'm not sure, but there were some here that I was like, huh, well, 01:16:40
that's interesting because I hadn't really I lost track of what all the projects. OK, but that's what we just want to kind of move 01:16:45
back to something that is beneficial for both and move back to the intent of the original agreement. If I could also make a 01:16:51
comment on along those lines is that we have had several community members join us at the City Court meetings stating the fact 01:16:56
that we have just been sponsoring. 01:17:02
Events. 01:17:08
Activities left and right, but we've gotten away from item 1-2 and three. 01:17:10
And so. 01:17:15
They're right. They're right because some of these items don't necessarily benefit the entire community as we're, let's say. 01:17:17
Beach replenishment, something along those lines that benefits the entire community. So that's why we had discussed this saying, 01:17:24
you know what, you're right, we've gotten to it's easy to just go to F4. 01:17:29
You just drop everything in there and not because it takes time to really think about these impactful yeah projects, right? Yeah. 01:17:34
But I think that that that when that person or these individuals came to the meeting and brought this up, I thought, you know 01:17:39
what, that makes perfect sense. 01:17:43
Because we've been dropping everything into #4 right. And even your own CAC members said that, yeah, no. And I, and I and I, and 01:17:48
you're right about that. I think another conversation that we've had is when we look at one through 3, we have $138,000. What 01:17:54
really can we do? 01:17:59
And one through three with $130,000, I think that was another. And we can carry, we can carry money over if we say, hey, we want 01:18:05
to work on beach replenishment to put in. 01:18:11
These. 01:18:18
What were those things that go in the water, you know, to help with erosion? I mean, there's these, these semantic jacks almost 01:18:19
that they look like, huh? 01:18:23
And if we want to do that and we say, OK, we want to pay two years and just work on that. 01:18:28
To help the shoreline, right, We can do all that and and that. 01:18:35
That looks like a good project and we say maybe it's a multi year project that we do, but something impactful for both of them. 01:18:39
Yeah, both of our concern though, there's 4 categories in your. 01:18:44
You're saying? 01:18:50
You don't want to do anything in category 4, but yeah, no, we didn't see that. 01:18:52
Implying you're implying like let's stay away from 4, but there's that's not in the intent of the agreement. 01:18:59
There's 4 categories, yes. 01:19:06
#4 was a catch all. 01:19:09
And that's what, if you look at this, that's what was falling in. 01:19:11
So, but we we put that in there. 01:19:16
To talk about. 01:19:19
Just in case there was something that came up. 01:19:21
You know that we didn't know about and. 01:19:24
And just was a. 01:19:27
Of interest to both agencies. 01:19:28
And so the catch all, it was not the. 01:19:31
You know, outside of. 01:19:34
The first three as I as I said earlier. 01:19:36
Are we intending that we're not gonna do anything on him for it? No. 01:19:38
That's not the intent at all. 01:19:42
Just depends on how. 01:19:44
We all negotiate through what the projects would be. 01:19:45
OK, sounds good. We're not. We're not excluding it at all. 01:19:48
Yeah. We're just saying that we kind of. 01:19:51
By the wayside, OK. 01:19:54
We anything more on that? Nope. 01:19:55
OK, We wanted to give you an update on the Bard Monument Garden History walk path. It's really, it's really kind of fascinating 01:19:57
what it's kind of turned into and I think that you're going to be. 01:20:04
Pleased with that. Do we have a presentation on that or you just wanna talk through it? No, we just had a few highlights. We went 01:20:10
out to Kiesel Landscaping and they've. 01:20:15
Done some landscape architecture for the statue itself, so we're gonna put it in front of our 105 building, which is the building 01:20:20
that's at the mouth of the gate, and have the. 01:20:24
Statue look at the Maritime Museum and hope we build history to history there. The visionary of the father of the Port and the 01:20:29
city really is is Mr. Bard and have him tie and look into the Maritime Museum and support that and hopefully create some draw. 01:20:36
And the renderings are beautiful. We just need to share them with our ad hoc committee and then we'll bring them in here. But. 01:20:44
The idea is to have it look a little bit like the promenade. So the bottom would be on like a compass like you have where the 01:20:49
flags are, you know, create that kind of patio, have benches and put a wall behind it with words that celebrate the rich history 01:20:54
of the city, the port and and the the Bard family. So we stay tuned. We'll bring that back to you. We just want to make sure the 01:20:59
ad hoc committee with the port that's been assigned to this is comfortable with the renderings and we'll bring them before you for 01:21:05
your review. 01:21:10
So I sit on that ad hoc committee. 01:21:16
We're meeting Monday. 01:21:19
To go over it, but. 01:21:22
In essence, the statue is going to sit on top of a cement. 01:21:24
Pedestal with four sides on it, and each one of those four sides would have a plaque. 01:21:30
Acknowledging the. 01:21:37
Wyoming City Council member. 01:21:39
Members, the port Members. The city manager, Executive director. 01:21:42
And then there's going to be. 01:21:48
Like a dedication. 01:21:50
Black. And then some other words, you know, honoring Mr. Bard. 01:21:52
And then I can't remember what the 4th side is to you, Miguel. 01:21:56
And then after the ad hoc committee meets, we will provide the opportunity for the city to provide comments on it to see if 01:22:26
there's any changes or tweaks that you'd like to do. 01:22:31
But I think it kind of encompasses. 01:22:37
One of the items of the city to honor heroes and your walkways and. 01:22:41
Everything else that you've been doing along that line, this, this provides it here. It's going to be placed on the corner of the 01:22:48
105 building area down here. We're gonna redesign a bunch of stuff so people can walk by. 01:22:53
They can walk, sit. 01:22:59
Stay awhile, look around, just. 01:23:01
Enjoy. Yeah, So it should be nice. I I'm looking forward the meeting's Monday just got established, so. 01:23:03
And the statue is here, I haven't seen it, but it's here on port somewhere, so. 01:23:09
I'm looking forward to that. So I could just make a comment with regards to the Bard statue, and I jumped into it when it already 01:23:16
had been approved and all is that this is one of those items that was approved by the Community Benefits Committee. 01:23:22
Which included the city of Port Waddemi and Harvard District. 01:23:29
And. 01:23:32
Yet there's conversations out in the community going, why did the ports why that's ridiculous waste of money. That wasn't a 01:23:34
decision the port made. That was the decision the committee, this this body made here to move forward with approval from your City 01:23:38
Council and the. 01:23:43
People of ours. So when these decisions are made, there's historical. 01:23:48
Records of these decisions being made, but for some reason or another, it's well, why is the port wasting this thing like that? So 01:23:53
things like that after I'm gone from the seat, you know, I'm sure there's decisions are going to say, Oh my God, why did they 01:23:59
make? But but knowing that there are records saying when this motion was passed and who was on City Council when it was approved. 01:24:06
So there shouldn't be any question. But this is one of those items where I'm like, you're right. 01:24:12
You know, if if someone from the community were saying. 01:24:18
How is does this really benefit the community? You know what that may have fallen under? 01:24:21
Other categories besides one. 01:24:27
Which I would. 01:24:29
Venture to say. 01:24:30
Yes, but, but knowing that this gentleman has a historical place in our community, I'd say yeah, it benefits both. 01:24:32
Yeah. 01:24:40
OK. Any other questions on the board monument? OK, good. So stay tuned on that, you'll get feedback to. 01:24:42
You know, opportunity to provide feedback and changes and things like that. So we'll send that over to you. 01:24:51
Which leads us to the third one where? 01:24:56
You know, Oh. 01:24:59
We've had it, you know. 01:25:01
Things are are getting better as far as working together and marketing messages and. 01:25:03
You know how we align everything? 01:25:08
You know, for the. 01:25:10
For the community benefit fund dollars that are being used to make sure everybody gets their proper recognition, so. 01:25:12
You want to talk about the library mural? 01:25:19
We were a little surprised. 01:25:23
So. 01:25:25
I think this is just a flyer and I. 01:25:27
I, I think what, what some of the messaging is, is, you know, the mural went up and we want to make sure it's really understood. I 01:25:30
was at the event and I had the opportunity to share that was paid with, with CBF funding. 01:25:35
But. 01:25:40
You know when you get there, you wouldn't know that at the library, right? You don't see our logo, you don't see the city's logo. 01:25:41
There's no kind of representation. So that's one issue. And I, I was a little bit surprised when I saw the rendering too, because 01:25:47
at the end of the day, this is CBF money, it's funding, and we didn't get to really look at the design. 01:25:53
And it. 01:25:59
You don't see the port reflected in it all in the history of the Navy or? 01:26:00
You know, I know that artists came out and they did a port tour with Miguel, so they had the opportunity to visit with us. But. 01:26:05
When you went there, you know it's a beautiful mural, but it doesn't seem to. 01:26:11
Celebrate necessarily any of the heritage of the maritime industry. So just pointing that out, you know, but at the end of the 01:26:16
day, I think it is important that we at least embrace. 01:26:21
Where it came from and make sure there's some sort of educational piece at the library. I think we can work on that, James, for 01:26:26
sure. 01:26:30
That's just me. 01:26:38
And so I hear you. 01:26:40
I mean I I my. 01:26:43
Comment back is. 01:26:45
I I attended the first robotics and same thing, you know. 01:26:48
The city is. 01:26:51
You know, we're just a small little entity, you know, and. 01:26:54
Work together like we're coupled together. 01:26:58
By a border, so. 01:27:01
This to me this is this. 01:27:04
This should you know. 01:27:07
We as a team, we. 01:27:10
We can do better. 01:27:11
Yeah, collaborate. I think so. 01:27:12
And when I say I'm, I'm surprised, I just had not heard that before. It's the first time I'm hearing that. So that's what my 01:27:15
surprise is. 01:27:18
And as you spoke it out loud. 01:27:22
It kind of. 01:27:26
Kind of filed it away and said, OK, yeah, I got it. 01:27:27
So yeah. 01:27:32
So I would I would be interested in knowing. 01:27:33
What we could have done better when you say when you went there, you, you, you, you didn't see it any. 01:27:38
What could we have done better? I think that you don't have to tell me now, but that would be helpful moving forward so that we 01:27:43
understand where we have to make sure that. 01:27:47
Because I, I'll say it and when I say it, I, I don't really say a lot of words unless I really. 01:27:52
That I. 01:27:57
We're really working at trying to be really good partners with you all. 01:28:00
And to me, the work partnership doesn't really mean too much. 01:28:05
Unless you really have the action behind it, that's showing partnership. 01:28:08
And that's really what I think is very important that I'd like to continue to. 01:28:12
Push forward. I know there's some things that's going on that might not always. 01:28:17
Show that as it relates to, you know, certain, you know, people if people are saying things. 01:28:21
But ultimately. 01:28:26
I I'm looking for us to be really good partners. 01:28:29
And I think that it's in there. 01:28:32
It's happening, but I think there's more in there. 01:28:34
That we could be doing and so I'm looking forward to that happening. 01:28:37
Thank you. I think in that particular case, like with the mural, I was shocked that it's a beautiful mural. 01:28:41
But I was shocked when I found out just recently that none of our folks even had. 01:28:46
Chance to look at the renderings of what it was going to look like. 01:28:51
I'm like, oh, wait, that were we supposed to approve it together? Right, So that's one. But then I'll suggest you mentioned about 01:28:54
the FIRST robotics. 01:28:57
So on the 1st. 01:29:01
Martha, you were there, right? Who went with who? Yeah, exactly. So you did your part, but you're right on the. 01:29:03
Previous week, there should have been more consistency. Yeah. The message, Yeah, it just seemed like a county. 01:29:10
It seemed like a county slash court event. 01:29:17
You know, there we have really. No, there was no badging. 01:29:21
What do you mean by baggage? I don't know, this is just my opinion. 01:29:26
It was a part of it. 01:29:33
But it was ACBF event. 01:29:36
Partial partial. 01:29:38
Because we there's a lot more. 01:29:41
To the event outside of CVS. 01:29:44
So it wasn't just only CBF. Yeah, yeah. So it cost a lot more than $5000 to put that thing on to hold it here. So, but we we bring 01:29:47
in that from our general fund. 01:29:52
And then there's I think 5000 that comes through the CBS, so. 01:29:57
And as I remember the pictures, it has the big check with the two logos on there, right, Everybody stand there. Yeah. So OK, I 01:30:01
mean, point taken. I mean, which way we could, we could do better if we can do better. Let's talk about that and hopefully we can 01:30:08
use this as our venue to do that. So. 01:30:14
I mean, that's great. If I could just ask to. So I think the the mural committee predated I think all three of us. 01:30:20
Think so. 01:30:27
My understanding was the port was part of the Bureau committee, so is that not? 01:30:28
Accurate. 01:30:32
OK, so. 01:30:33
The artist came out and they had a port tour, but from there there wasn't really a committee. I was surprised it was done. 01:30:34
To be honest, you know, I was surprised it was done. So I and I, yeah. 01:30:41
Yeah, if I may just add here. 01:30:46
I was invited to when the the Council. 01:30:49
Approve the artist, but after that, there was never any formal invitation. Yeah. Or any follow up. And yeah, we did two of the 01:30:53
artists here, but obviously that didn't make a lasting impression. Yeah, I think for unrein the the City Council. 01:31:01
You know, slip the banana in there. 01:31:08
Well, yeah, the City Council had created a committee, and that committee was supposed to represent. 01:31:11
Basically everybody and I think we had understood that a port representative was on there. 01:31:16
And then? 01:31:20
And then I. 01:31:21
Believe too, that. 01:31:22
I thought they had added. 01:31:23
Like I remember in the conversation but they had added. 01:31:25
Something related to represent the port. 01:31:28
In that conversation like a shadow. Yeah. So, so it looks like this doesn't you couldn't tell what it is. Yeah, OK. Yeah. So I 01:31:30
think this is another one for example, where the three for the three of us, we weren't on that committee and we had understood 01:31:35
that the port was represented so. 01:31:40
For us on the next one, I guess we'll have to make sure we figure that out in advance. It was already in process before we got 01:31:46
here. 01:31:49
And then just on the library similar to the robotics. 01:31:54
I think where there was a. 01:31:58
Some confusion. 01:32:00
Was initially it was just supposed to be the grand reopening of the library, which we actually provided $400,000 of general fund 01:32:01
dollars to reopen the library. 01:32:05
And then I think at the last minute, I think the mural. 01:32:09
Got pulled in where it was like, well, let's celebrate the mural as well and so. 01:32:12
The county. 01:32:17
Being there. 01:32:18
It's our building, but they lease it from us and it was their grand opening. They had said do do we mind if we celebrate the mural 01:32:20
at the same time? And we said we don't mind. And that was essentially our involvement in that so. 01:32:26
I think for us the focus was on the reopening of the library and then like. 01:32:31
Letting them celebrate the grand opening of the mirror are the unveiling of the mural. 01:32:37
But that's something that will again, keep in mind on future projects. Understandable with your comments now. So I appreciate you 01:32:41
bringing that forward because I do see that it's the county on here and they may have made the flyer too. They made the flyer. OK. 01:32:47
So that's helpful information for us. But I think what Miss Dickus and Mr. Vega, what you're hearing from this board, this body, 01:32:53
is that. 01:32:59
We want to be able to be collaborative and have each other be acknowledged appropriately when the. 01:33:06
The condition arises and to be very cognizant of the fact that that's a priority for us. 01:33:12
So yeah. And if I could just, yeah, if I could just add I think. 01:33:18
Kristen and I can both vouch for this, that we've both made that a priority and I think. 01:33:23
What I think that what will happen now is that the occasional odd one might slip by, but we're catching, I think doing a better 01:33:27
job on on, you know, consistently addressing. 01:33:32
All the projects. 01:33:38
But we will start working on making sure we're catching those, those odd ones. But I do think. 01:33:40
I do think I see a lot more of that PR that represents both the city and the port on these projects. And I know that, I know we 01:33:45
put effort into it. I know your team's put significant effort into it as well. 01:33:50
I agree with you on that. 01:33:55
On this topic. OK, good. 01:33:56
All right. Any other questions on the? 01:33:57
OK. 01:33:59
So. 01:34:00
Washington, DC so attached to the packet. 01:34:01
Did they not get the entire? 01:34:07
Oh, OK. 01:34:10
OK. Thank you. OK, thanks. 01:34:12
So what this is, is the packet from last year's trip. 01:34:15
Excuse me? 01:34:20
Previous years? What did he go last year? 01:34:21
Oh, an election. 01:34:22
Oh, so it's it's actually been, Yeah, this will be two years. OK. Yeah. 01:34:27
23. 01:34:32
23 OK. 01:34:33
So we put brought this together so you all can see. 01:34:34
Kind of what was presented, who we met with. 01:34:38
Things like that and where the. 01:34:42
Where the priorities were and how it would all come together so. 01:34:43
Just as is just for format OK issues and for information for you to think about as Miss Zacharias said. 01:34:47
Time's going to go by really fast. 01:34:56
And we do have our. 01:34:59
Not an advocate, is he? Yeah, it's lobby. Yeah, we got a lobbyist back there. 01:35:04
And so he's working on this. 01:35:10
For us, so. 01:35:12
We've got. 01:35:15
Them that they will set up the meetings, they will arrange transportation, arrange the logistics surrounding the trip. 01:35:17
And so we can make it very productive and and bring forward so. 01:35:24
I think that what we probably need to talk about is, and you may not be prepared today to talk about it, but the issues that. 01:35:28
Our phone are facing you. 01:35:36
That you'd like to address and the folks that we talked to back Becky's and the agencies perhaps, you know, maybe the Army Corps 01:35:39
is a visit or C mag or. 01:35:44
You know. 01:35:50
The EPA, Yeah. 01:35:52
I mean, wherever those priorities lie, that's what we want to make sure that we understand. OK. And so we we can work together. 01:35:53
And Kristen, are you working together with Mr. Vega on on. 01:35:59
So, yeah, so we've talked about it, but we have to do a little deeper dive. I think we can set up a phone call with John and 01:36:05
Karaoke's who are consultants in Washington, and they are great. 01:36:10
They'll kind of have the whole. 01:36:16
From. 01:36:18
You know where we stay, where we eat. The whole itinerary will be roped into this and. 01:36:19
Whoever we want to meet with, they'll make it happen. I mean, we can't guarantee that we'll get Senator Padilla, but we can get 01:36:24
the chief of staff, right? So I mean, they'll they'll work with us to get. 01:36:29
In front of the bodies that we want to get in front of. So there may be new priorities from last time I knew clearly the the, the 01:36:34
biannual dredging and, and for us now we lost our HMT funding. I think that. 01:36:40
You heard about that so certainly. 01:36:47
Donor equity and harbor maintenance tax money and biannual dredge funding. That's a huge priority for both of us. 01:36:49
We went to EDA that they're on the chopping back a little bit. So there may be some different agencies. I even hear FEMA's on the 01:36:56
chopping block. There's not going to be any port security grants this year, but that was when we hit. 01:37:01
So James and I have a little homework to do, I think, and get in touch with Johnny Carico so can bring back some ideas to you for 01:37:07
your consideration at the next meeting. And then if we're missing anyone, we can start queuing these up. 01:37:12
I think you better. 01:37:18
Start having the discussion. Well, we meet every other Friday. 01:37:20
Do some work before it necessarily comes back here 'cause we're gonna have to. It's gonna come up fast, Yeah. So. 01:37:24
Yeah, and the trip is planned for the. 01:37:31
9th and 10th for meetings and travel days are aligned for the 8th and the 11th. So we'll we'll start working on some of the 01:37:35
obvious ones with with I mean clearly our delegation. 01:37:40
Think we'd all want to meet with our senators and our Congresswoman? 01:37:45
August. Yes, our caucus. September. 01:37:49
In September and then, you know, obviously the Army Corps is an important one. And then we'll go from there, James, and see what 01:37:52
are the obvious ones and if there's some. 01:37:56
We'll come back to this board if we're missing anything. 01:38:00
Is there anything you can remember? 01:38:03
We we, we met with some Navy organizations that were good. 01:38:07
Well, I mean, I did, you did attend a Winnemi. Do you guys kind of grant me for the county? 01:38:10
I would I would be beneficial for the city as well. 01:38:19
As dot. 01:38:22
That's a good one. OK, Project. OK dot the Winimi last mile, right? Yeah. And there are grants out there that we learned from the 01:38:24
last one where you can, I think. 01:38:28
Particularly for the city learn how to engage in some contracts with Navy base Ventura County for certain asks you know functions 01:38:33
that could services that could bring revenue streams in. I think we could re hit those. 01:38:39
Those were good ones. 01:38:45
Yeah, yeah. 01:38:47
Mm-hmm. And how about your? 01:38:49
Bubbly Springs Park, is that completely done in? 01:38:52
Because I know that was one of the topics that was conversation in 23. Yeah, it was about it's about 99% done because we're just 01:38:56
doing the final inspections. So that one should be done and and fully funded, so. 01:39:02
I think this one will focus on a lot of the same things, but mostly our infrastructure and our. 01:39:08
And our dredge project I think will be our two priorities. So we'll talk about with the. 01:39:14
Kristen about which ones would be best to meet with for those purposes? Yep. 01:39:19
Actually, it's Richard Bard Bubbling Springs Park. There you go. 01:39:25
And then how about with regards to? 01:39:31
I wish I lost my train of thought when you said but. 01:39:35
Richard Bard. 01:39:37
Any new projects that are in the horizon? 01:39:40
That. 01:39:43
I I don't know if you go before your rest of your City Council members to ask for input. 01:39:44
I just don't want to come back and there was a comment that was made. 01:39:49
Not too long ago that Why go to DC if it's just going to be about the port? We can't have it about the port. It has to be about 01:39:52
something we're both going to advocate for our community. 01:39:57
Right, so I think. 01:40:03
I don't know why I keep forgetting that. Yeah, I think what Mayor Pro Tem has mentioned in in our city manager. 01:40:06
Yeah. I think those are the three things I think are important and I think. 01:40:15
What we learned when we went a couple years ago and last year as well is. 01:40:18
Umm, that because we're up against the military facility as well, that might open us up to some other things, but I think it have 01:40:24
to as a, as a city, find out what are those things that are. 01:40:30
Most important, at this priority for us at this moment, you could get direction from the Council. Yeah, on. 01:40:37
What we can bring? 01:40:44
Yeah, yeah. 01:40:46
Yeah, that'd be part of the process would be sort of working through it here and then before we go take it to the council and make 01:40:47
sure that they bless the list essentially so. 01:40:51
So, yeah. So I guess, yeah, it comes back to both of us, both boards to say. 01:40:56
Put it on the next agenda to talk about, OK? 01:41:03
We're going back to DC these times. What are we gonna do? Focus on So do that. 01:41:05
OK, good. 01:41:09
And then? 01:41:10
Come back or. 01:41:11
Let the city manager and executive director work through that. 01:41:13
Any other items on that? 01:41:18
Annual trip. One very basic question is I think we have blocked a week. 01:41:20
Did we lock in specific like dates? I think they're thinking travel days 8th and 11th and the actual days of meetings 9th and 01:41:25
10th. OK thank you. 01:41:30
And that's flexible if you want to fly out. 01:41:36
On the 10th and take a later flight. You could if you didn't want to stay in DC. I remember last year that people stayed in 01:41:39
vacation, you know, which is an option as well. 01:41:43
Thank you. 01:41:47
Oh yeah. 01:41:49
It's a nice time of year there. OK Any other comments about the? 01:41:50
Washington, DC Trip No. 01:41:55
So there's a place for council a committee member comments about. 01:41:58
Anything that wasn't on the agenda. 01:42:03
I I just like to if you don't mind. 01:42:07
I just like to reiterate what I said earlier about the importance of our partnership. 01:42:09
We don't have a lot of. 01:42:17
Authority as it relates to what people say. 01:42:19
Right. And I know there's there's some. 01:42:23
Some there's been some comments. 01:42:26
That may lead you to believe. 01:42:30
That were our partnership is not important. 01:42:32
But I just want to say again, it is very important. 01:42:36
And. 01:42:39
At least as currently as the mayor, everything that I do will be. 01:42:41
To continue to grow and develop. 01:42:46
The partnership between. 01:42:49
The city and the port. Because we are. 01:42:51
Forever connected. Yeah, we're forever connected. So and because we are important that we continue to. 01:42:54
Have the open discussions. 01:43:01
And understand that their. 01:43:03
Just sometimes discussions that need to be had. 01:43:05
And when the discussions are over, we can go do our business and come back and and do it again. 01:43:07
So I hope that's where we're we're at. 01:43:13
As entities so. 01:43:15
I appreciate that, yeah. 01:43:17
It's I'm also reminded everywhere I go. 01:43:19
Around Port Hueneme. 01:43:23
From Bart Elementary, I was at a science fair. 01:43:24
And. 01:43:28
We are connected. 01:43:30
And I. 01:43:32
I see you guys as a collaborative. 01:43:34
Partnership. 01:43:37
And so. 01:43:38
Let's continue to move that forward. 01:43:40
We will again. We we're. 01:43:44
For limited. 01:43:48
On this dais, on what we can, you know, do. 01:43:50
'Cause we we can't speak. 01:43:54
For the Council, but. 01:43:55
Collaboratively, I think. 01:43:57
I I like where we're going. 01:44:00
And. 01:44:02
Let's keep that up. 01:44:03
Is that grace? No, totally agree. I I'm about partnerships, I'm about collaborating about. 01:44:06
The bigger picture. 01:44:12
And the greater good. 01:44:13
Everything else aside. 01:44:15
Thank you. 01:44:16
I agree too on the collaboration. 01:44:18
However there there is a however on here. 01:44:26
And and I I. 01:44:30
Haven't done this yet. 01:44:32
But I am going to put into the record today of our committee here. 01:44:34
The document that was handed out to the Board of Supervisors. 01:44:39
By one of your council members. 01:44:44
Who did not say he was handing it as a resident? He said he was speaking as a resident and they handed it to the Board of 01:44:47
Supervisors. But I want this to go into the record, please. 01:44:52
Miss Cannon. 01:44:57
This kind of document. 01:44:59
Is destructive. 01:45:02
To our relationship. 01:45:03
And. 01:45:05
You have. 01:45:06
You have a member. 01:45:09
Who has shown his bias? 01:45:11
To our agency. 01:45:14
And that. 01:45:16
Those kinds of things are what we need to work through and and that makes it really hard to have a good productive relationship 01:45:19
when you have a biased member on your council. 01:45:24
So. 01:45:29
I'm going to put that on there. I mean, that's not the first time that he has done something like this. 01:45:30
And it's. 01:45:36
It's, it's difficult and and it's, it's hurtful for the relationship as we look to do because I think that. 01:45:39
I respect both of you and and I think that. 01:45:46
That's how we're going to move things forward in a very productive way and move away from. 01:45:49
Historical. 01:45:54
Spats that have happened. 01:45:56
Ever since we both. 01:45:58
Were born, you know, I mean, both agencies were born. There's always been some conflict in there and so. 01:45:59
That's where I hope that we can. 01:46:05
Move things forward and have that collaborative relationship that that we all talk about and and to do that. And so I'm unsure of. 01:46:07
How this is getting resolved? 01:46:17
I hope it does. 01:46:20
I'm not sure where the resolution can occur. 01:46:21
But I But when there's conversation where we say we want to talk, then I hope we can talk. 01:46:26
Because. 01:46:32
You know, that's, that's the way we're going to work through things and to share our opinions and our feelings and things like 01:46:33
that. 01:46:36
So just want. 01:46:39
Put that out there. 01:46:41
And I think. 01:46:45
That's all my conversation, so. 01:46:46
Without Izzard. 01:46:50
Any last minute. 01:46:51
OK, so our next meeting is. 01:46:52
What's the next meeting, Miss Cannon? 01:46:59
For June. 01:47:17
18 So was it the third or fourth Wednesday with the 3/2? 01:47:22
Are we at the 4th now? We moved, we moved. It was this. 01:47:29
Wait. 01:47:36
Going back and forth with this. 01:47:37
So we are indeed the fourth Wednesday. 01:47:40
OK. 01:47:43
OK. June 25th. OK, good. I will be back. OK. 01:47:45
All right, good. OK. 01:47:49
So June 24th and yeah, we're back at your house so. 01:47:50
25th. 01:47:55
Yeah, June 25th. 01:47:56
At 3:30 at the city of Port Hueneme. 01:47:58
Yep, just one comment on that meeting date. We still won't have had our visioning yet on CBF, so just to. 01:48:02
Remind you that we'll still have some work to do on that, but James and I certainly have a lot of stuff in front of us that we can 01:48:09
bring back Yeah, so we won't have our. 01:48:13
Projects for consideration. 01:48:17
That time we still have time. 01:48:19
Yes. 01:48:21
The way the clock works, we have 180 days from July 1st. 01:48:23
Is there a number already for this coming year? 01:48:27
Yes. So, yeah. So based on the agreement. 01:48:31
The funding will be made for fiscal year 2025 after our audit is completed. So I believe estimated time will be. 01:48:35
Late November or early December? 01:48:44
An estimated amount is about $135,000. OK. 01:48:48
O It's a little bit of an interesting alignment because we have to make the decisions on how we're going to invest the money by 01:48:53
the end of December, but we won't know the audited amount. So we're working off of forecast, but we will know. 01:48:59
With pretty good understanding before the audit what our final revenue will be for fiscal year 25? 01:49:05
And we expect to be about 1% over last year right now. So you can anticipate on revenue sharing and CBF to be similar to last 01:49:11
year. 01:49:16
But there's a huge caveat. 01:49:21
Moving forward as to what? 01:49:24
Policies come out of DC and as you can create policies and tariffs and stuff like that, so. 01:49:27
Please note that we we've built a conservative budget. 01:49:33
Because there's a question mark $2,000,000 last week, so. 01:49:36
You know, from one of the funds that got cut, so. 01:49:42
Every week is a new. 01:49:45
Adventure. So yeah. So we're keeping that in mind. OK. Any final questions, comments? 01:49:47
All right. Thank you very much. We stand adjourned. Thank you. 01:49:53
About what? 01:50:01
Oh. 01:50:05
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We're going to call the meeting to order of the City of Port Hueneme and the Oxnard Harbor District Joint City Port Committee. 00:10:57
Of May 28th, 2025. 00:11:03
Umm, Miss Kennen, will you take the role please? 00:11:06
From the city of Port Hueneme we have Mayor McQueen Lyon here. 00:11:09
Mayor Pro Tem Lopez and City Manager Vega here. 00:11:13
From the Port of Wine, Amy, Oxford Harbor District, we have Commissioner Rooney here, Commissioner Zacharias here, and CEO and 00:11:18
Port Director Dicas. 00:11:22
Great. Thank you very much. Did we have any public comment cards? 00:11:27
What is being pulled out right now? 00:11:34
I think he was just a. 00:11:37
Signing in, OK. 00:11:39
OK. The cards OK, perfect. Thank you. 00:11:41
OK, great. 00:11:43
Item D1 are the minutes from our last meeting. 00:11:45
Are there any questions? If not, I'll entertain a motion to approve. 00:11:49
Motion to approve. 00:11:55
2nd thank you. 00:11:57
All those in favor say aye aye. 00:11:58
Very much. 00:12:01
OK, item 2. 00:12:02
Is the community benefit fund overview of the settlement agreement Now I just want to talk to you guys for sex so. 00:12:04
This agreement kind of ties the city and the port, you know, in a lot of different ways and so. 00:12:12
We wanted to include this on here to allow an opportunity for discussion. 00:12:17
In a relatively quieter environment to to allow. 00:12:22
Questions to comments, clarifications, things like that about the agreement, just so we're all on the same page and we can all. 00:12:29
Have any kind of? 00:12:40
If we have a concern about it, it provides the opportunity for the the board to do that. 00:12:42
I just would like to say that. 00:12:48
The city port committee. 00:12:50
Has been around for decades. 00:12:52
And it's the vehicle. 00:12:54
For the two agencies to work together and to do the work, you know, the background work and then take it back to our prospective 00:12:56
boards, so. 00:13:00
It has been the the chosen. 00:13:05
Organization or or or subcommittee. 00:13:11
To allow that to happen. So that's been happening over the decades, long before I was here, long before Kristen was here and 00:13:14
everything. So it's been around a long time. 00:13:17
So that's why we we use the. 00:13:21
This committee to talk about the CBF and then any other items that are that the both agencies would like to talk about. So that's 00:13:25
because kind of the little background about the city port canoe, if I could just add a little background as well. I know that when 00:13:31
I was on the committee for the first time. 00:13:37
It was sporadic. And then last year we we talked about having these meetings more on a monthly basis just to get everybody on the 00:13:44
same page, everybody moving the same direction. I think that that having this particular item on the agenda month after month is 00:13:50
going to help clarify a lot of misunderstandings and help answer a lot of questions. We may not know the answers at, you know, 00:13:57
when we're in these meetings, but it's good to go back to our attorneys to say, you know. 00:14:03
Ruben press this this question kind of came up. Can you please help us clarify? But I, I think that. 00:14:09
Meeting regularly discussing these items will bring a lot of clarification for everyone, which would then extend out to our 00:14:16
community that we are all are moving in the same direction. Yeah, and I mean. 00:14:22
I don't know if it's you, but I don't enjoy paying our lawyer when we don't have to sometimes. 00:14:28
And conversations I think between elected and elected is is very good and staff to staff. 00:14:34
Works out well too, so it gives us just another. 00:14:41
A more relaxed. 00:14:45
Environment to do that, so that's why. I hope you understand why. 00:14:47
We wanted to have that. 00:14:50
On the agenda for each time you know before. 00:14:53
This board didn't meet very much. This committee didn't meet before the 2015 agreement. I mean, it was, it was sporadic and I 00:14:56
mean, we might meet. 00:15:01
Once or twice a year and that was kind of it. 00:15:05
So I think they. 00:15:08
The settlement agreement, the CBF, allows us all that opportunity to. 00:15:11
You know, to talk more and to hopefully. 00:15:16
Reduce any. 00:15:18
Issues before they become a real concern, you know. OK, so. 00:15:20
So I'll tell you, I'm not really sure what specifically you might be talking about. 00:15:24
We. 00:15:29
Absolutely are in agreement that the Community Benefit Fund is. This is the body for that. 00:15:31
And so we've got there different ways, I think how we. 00:15:37
Came to this meeting in preparation on our side versus yours. I'm not really sure what that is. 00:15:41
But that that's OK. 00:15:46
But we have no. 00:15:49
Quorums about. 00:15:51
Having the Community Benefit Fund on the. 00:15:52
Agenda is that amount agreement, settlement agreement. I'm sorry but I think The thing is, is that when when I see the topic 00:15:55
settlement agreement, that doesn't say CBF to me. 00:16:00
No, it's not. 00:16:05
CBF falls under the settlement, I understand that, but as as a revenue sharing and you know every other. 00:16:06
Thing that we talk about, OK. 00:16:14
So I'm just trying to get clarification of what what the topic is right now. So I'll just say this and I think this might be 00:16:16
helpful. 00:16:20
So. 00:16:24
Mayor Pro Tem and I. 00:16:27
Are here as two members of a full body. That's a 5 people. 00:16:28
So whenever we come to a meeting, it's our responsibility to come on behalf of the entire council. 00:16:34
And so that's why I have some trepidation. I would have trepidation to talk about something that we have not already collaborated 00:16:40
with, with the complete body. So that would be my only concern. And I, I don't think it is appropriate for us to do that. 00:16:48
And so. 00:16:56
If we ever get to an item where we feel that we really can't talk about because we have not, we have not gotten the complete board 00:16:57
to agree on what the message would be, we would have to. 00:17:03
Say that and say that we can't talk about it because it's not just our voice. We're representing 5-3 other people. So totally 00:17:10
agree with what you said. I mean, it's the same thing. If that were to come up, I'm not, I'm not sure it's going to be up to come 00:17:17
up today. But if it were to come up, that would be our stance, permanent stance all the time. And I appreciate that. And, and 00:17:25
we're in the same position here where we, we use this body to go and have conversations and then go. 00:17:32
Back to our respective boards and talk about what we talked about here, then come back here again. So it just leads to that open 00:17:40
communication and and open and honest communication that we can have to. 00:17:46
Hopefully. 00:17:52
Answer any questions or provide clarifications and and there is a clarification I want to adjust today. 00:17:53
So. 00:18:01
During the. 00:18:02
Meeting. 00:18:05
Did you guys get you guys saw the minutes I did OK. I saw the is that what triggered your no, no response is because. 00:18:07
You know, we got all these inputs. There's a lot of inputs and. 00:18:15
You know. 00:18:20
I think us as. 00:18:21
Are as a City Council, there was. 00:18:23
You know, we, we asked staff like, hey. 00:18:26
Nonprofit does it have to be a, you know, a non profit? 00:18:29
Could it be you know, there was questions that that. 00:18:32
The the the council members were asking and. 00:18:36
So. 00:18:41
I think we. 00:18:42
Over I I would say over the last. 00:18:44
Two to three years we can't. 00:18:47
The city has. 00:18:49
Staff has cleaned up the process. 00:18:50
Using. 00:18:52
The community advisory. 00:18:55
Commission to. 00:18:57
Kind of vet. 00:18:58
All these. 00:19:01
All these projects right? 00:19:02
Then by the time. 00:19:05
They hand it over to the Council. 00:19:06
It's it's prioritized we. 00:19:09
Kind of do a sanity check on it. 00:19:12
And so it's to me the process is getting. 00:19:15
It's it's better. 00:19:18
Good. 00:19:19
So I was just curious, did you have questions? No, no, no, no. This one is just to talk about the agreement, which we do have a 00:19:20
specific conversation we want to have, but then we can talk about your projects underneath. 00:19:26
#4 and that's OK Yeah, I mean, 'cause not specifically the projects at this point. So. But I I would agree with Commissioner 00:19:33
Rooney, though this is more for clarification because there's been a lot of. 00:19:38
Misinformation out there or misunderstanding. And so we just want to make sure I think that this is the right place to get 00:19:44
clarification. It's not to make decisions because like Commissioner Rooney said, is she and I cannot make decisions for our five 00:19:49
body and say just like you do, but. 00:19:54
This is a place. 00:19:59
For us to take a look at the agreement and address any. 00:20:00
Questions you might have or clarifications that that have that need to be made that have come up. 00:20:05
But nowhere are we saying you have to commit to something because we can't do that either. Yeah. So the idea about talking about 00:20:12
the settlement agreement. 00:20:16
Is that? 00:20:21
As you know, we have staff who attend your your board meetings and committee meetings and things like that. 00:20:23
And so comments may come up. 00:20:30
Where we go, oh, wait, that's not that's not totally correct and so. 00:20:32
That's where we just wanted to. 00:20:37
Maybe provide a little guidance, insight as to intent and, and clarifying the question. So, OK, it's just, it's just an open 00:20:40
dialogue today. OK, that's, that's what we're doing. So if you, if you just let me say this really quick. So I'll tell you the, 00:20:46
the, the Port Wineini City Council and, and I think this is another. 00:20:53
I wouldn't call it an issue, but I would just call it a, you know? 00:21:01
It it or I'll just state that it, it just doesn't allow us to come as prepared as we would like to. 00:21:05
Because as you know. 00:21:11
When we get our agenda and our items, we have everything spelled out and we can read it. So when we come to a meeting, we're 00:21:13
sitting there and we're ready to make decisions. 00:21:17
This is not that. So what happens? I believe for for me. 00:21:21
Is that we have these these agenda items, but there's no. 00:21:26
You know, I mean, there's no information behind it to prepare us to, to actually come or have the conversations that we need to 00:21:33
have before we come in the room. And so that makes it really difficult because I will tell you coming in today and reading. 00:21:41
Just a specific agenda. 00:21:49
Titles it really. 00:21:51
Doesn't give me enough to be prepared for any decision that we might have. I just wanted to share that. Thank you and and this is. 00:21:53
It was meant to be open. 00:22:01
OK. 00:22:04
You know, while we have a couple things we want to talk about. 00:22:05
The agenda item is meant to be open. 00:22:08
So in broad. 00:22:12
So everything that's contained under the settlement agreement, you know, CBF revenue sharing. 00:22:13
You know, all of that stuff that's in there, all the agreements. 00:22:20
It's meant to be open to allow for that dialogue, OK. And then you take that back as both of us take that back respectively to our 00:22:24
boards. And then the next time we go, OK, we want to talk about this a little bit more or we want more clarification on that. So 00:22:30
it's meant to be open and. 00:22:36
And free flowing so So what I'll I'll follow with is. 00:22:42
Let's let's start. 00:22:46
Wherever you like to start and when we get to the point or when I get to the point where I say, hey, there's no nothing that I can 00:22:48
discuss at this moment because my discussion would be my own words. 00:22:54
And I can't have a discussion without fair enough. Let's just go down the path and then when we get there, if we get there, I'll 00:22:59
just make the comment. 00:23:04
Fair enough. Fair enough. OK, great. Thanks a lot. 00:23:09
So. 00:23:12
There was a there have been discussions and you heard from our council who actually wrote the settlement agreement. 00:23:13
And I will share with you. 00:23:21
I feel like. 00:23:23
It could have been. 00:23:24
Presented in a clearer way. 00:23:26
He you know. 00:23:29
He negotiated the contract for a couple of years, I think. 00:23:31
And he knows so much about everything that I think it could have been clearer where? 00:23:35
Everybody was kind of struggling during that discussion. I mean, I watched it and I think that we could have made it a bit 00:23:43
clearer. One of the. 00:23:46
One of the issues that came up was. 00:23:51
The definition of convoy. And so we wanted just to talk about that a little bit. 00:23:53
Under that term. And then the other thing we wanted to talk about is. 00:23:58
The the port owes the city some items regarding. 00:24:05
You know, under this settlement agreement, and the city owes the port some items too. 00:24:10
So. 00:24:15
What we've talked about with our staff is. 00:24:15
Let's shoot for a deadline of January 1st of this year, next year to figure out all that, resolve it and see if we can get 00:24:18
everything that's due to each other. 00:24:24
By that time, and so our staff, we've talked to them. 00:24:31
And they think it's durable from our side and I, I don't know if it is from your side or not. 00:24:35
But we'd like to. 00:24:40
At least shoot for that to kind of start fresh and clear, you know, at the the 1st of 2026. 00:24:42
And resolve some of those issues there. 00:24:47
So can I ask the question as well? So City Manager, I know that we had submitted some documentation in the last couple of years. 00:24:50
Do we have any outstanding? 00:24:54
Items I think it depends on. 00:24:59
How far back? 00:25:02
The port's looking to go. 00:25:05
I know we submitted our required reports this year. 00:25:07
I think from a conversation with Kristen last week is might sounds like the port might be looking for now going backwards which 00:25:11
would be. 00:25:16
Difficult to commit to a date because just frankly, the people that were here at that time are no longer here so. 00:25:22
So I think that would be actually a useful conversation. 00:25:28
You know and. 00:25:31
With a conversation between Kristen and I, one of the things I'm trying to really focus on is moving forward and trying to really 00:25:32
build a collaborative approach moving forward. 00:25:37
And so the question is how far back, how much time do we want to spend looking backwards? So I think that's a question for. 00:25:42
For the two entities. And let me just ask one question. And with that, Mister Vega. 00:25:48
Whatever. 00:25:55
Just trying to get my my mind wrapped around it so as far back as we need to go whatever that date. 00:25:56
Might be. 00:26:03
There are documents from both sides that need to come together. 00:26:04
Yes, so there's. 00:26:07
There's a lot of details in. 00:26:09
All the convoluted agreements, but one of the simple ones is. 00:26:11
The port is supposed to provide their audits to the city, and the city is supposed to provide a report of how the port's funds are 00:26:15
used to the port. 00:26:19
And so Chris and I have talked about it, but when I got here, essentially what I heard from both sides is the other side hasn't 00:26:23
done their part. 00:26:27
So I'm trying to kind of. 00:26:31
We're trying to really work together to just make sure each side is doing its part moving forward. Great, thank you. 00:26:33
May I make one small correction to James statement in our conversation? So I just want to share that. The other thing was James, 00:26:40
that we agreed that we wanted in a different format that tied the actual expenses to the investment, not just the report that was 00:26:46
provided years ago by former city managers, but really have the dollar and cents accounting in the new template. Well, that's 00:26:53
where you know kind of going to. Can we meet a January 1st deadline? The question is what are we providing so. 00:26:59
I know we've talked about trying to make it better, so that's something we were looking to work to do. 00:27:06
But if the question is can we provide the last 30 or 40 years in that format by January 1st, the answer is probably not so. 00:27:13
OK, I'm gonna go. Help me a prayer time, please. 00:27:20
Yes. So is this gonna be city manager? Like, is this gonna? 00:27:22
Are we going to have staff agree to this? 00:27:27
On on how far back we're gonna go. 00:27:30
Well. 00:27:32
No. 00:27:33
From our perspective, the board. 00:27:35
Determine that we'd like to see it back to the inception of 2015 of how that's all been spent. 00:27:38
We we allowed the city to make the decisions on the CBF. 00:27:46
For the first two years. 00:27:51
But it was to decide the projects. 00:27:53
That were aligned with those four items that are outlined in the settlement agreement, you know, the shoreline protection, all 00:27:56
that. 00:27:59
So. 00:28:02
That's this big old sheet on your yeah, which will get you in the in the. 00:28:04
4 We'll talk about this, but. 00:28:12
From our perspective, our board would like to see back to 2015. 00:28:16
So. 00:28:20
That's my concern is. 00:28:22
How far back can we go? 00:28:24
Is that enough time? 00:28:28
Probably not. 00:28:31
I I think that's. 00:28:32
You know, one of the issues for us as a city is we've completely changed for financial reporting software. 00:28:34
As of 2022. 00:28:42
So going back to pre that it's like. 00:28:44
By definition, there's going to be some obstacles and some hurdles there. 00:28:49
So. 00:28:52
It's not something that I think I can commit to a date off hand. 00:28:54
And. 00:28:59
It's something we'd have to we'd have to look at. 00:29:02
And then are are you crystal clear on exactly what they want? 00:29:04
We're going to talk about that under D3, Yeah, I would suggest talking about that through this. 00:29:08
Right, so this is kind of why I made the comments I did before. Sounds like you all have had a lot of discussion about. 00:29:14
Let me just make this comment so it sounds like you all have had some conversation that we have. 00:29:23
Probably not been Privy to because this is the first time we're hearing this. 00:29:29
Right. And that's OK, but that. 00:29:33
And I just want to make sure that for the record, we understand that this was this was reporting was part of the settlement 00:30:06
agreements, OK. And yes, James is a new city manager, totally understand. But that does not take away from the fact that. 00:30:13
The city needed to do their part, and we also needed to do our part. 00:30:21
And so based off of. 00:30:24
The answer right now, then we only have. 00:30:28
4/24. 00:30:31
The report May I make a couple quotes for vacations? I think just. 00:30:33
Because I I lived and breathed this back in the day, Commissioner Rooney was with me, one of the reasons that we inserted the 00:30:40
accounting into the settlement agreement. 00:30:44
Was because there was a concern that there was a gift of public funds for the port because some of the things that were spilled 00:30:48
out in the former agreements were like widening Port Winnemi Rd. which we all know is going to happen. So the intent of this 00:30:54
particular language in the settlement agreement. 00:30:59
Which is. 00:31:05
In Section 13 of the settlement agreement, if you want to look at it, but it speaks to the allowable expenditures and it requires 00:31:06
the written report for the accounting to avoid that perception of gifted public funds. And it was very important to the Board at 00:31:12
the time as we were negotiating the settlement agreement. So that just provides some history. 00:31:17
In terms of the reports, we do have reports that were submitted. 00:31:23
In 2015, sixteen, 1718, we're missing them for 19/20/21 and then 2223 and then we have it in 22, not 23, but we do have it in 24. 00:31:28
But we don't have an informant format that really. 00:31:43
Ties the money. 00:31:47
To what was spent. And that's where James and I just need to sit down. We put together a template. 00:31:49
For his consideration, and obviously he needs opportunity to go back and look at the books and figure out how you really allocate. 00:31:55
What was? 00:32:03
What port money went into want from the general fund? And I am I'm sure it's a little confusing because all the money kind of just 00:32:05
goes into the general fund and then to go back and look at invoices. 00:32:09
As our board would like back up to those expenditures to really figure that out, I would imagine it's a little bit of an exercise, 00:32:15
but we do have a list of. 00:32:19
You know, in our humble opinion, I think we would like to see all the reports. 00:32:23
Agreement on by the December 31st, we are to provide a copy of our audit and then also a report that details the activity of cargo 00:32:58
and our convoy fee. 00:33:03
And we owe reports. I think we had some. 00:33:09
Brain fog from COVID in 2019, it seems that our reporting fell through the wayside. And I think it's 'cause we moved everyone off 00:33:13
campus and things. So we do all the city reports from 2020 to 24, which we are working now with our auditor to ensure you get what 00:33:20
you deserve and entitle to as well. OK, so that's the that's the objective is to get everybody the reporting. 00:33:27
According to the settlement agreement, OK. 00:33:35
And so that's that's one of the items that we talked about and James and I talked about that too. We know we both need to, we've 00:33:39
been working, working towards it. Yeah. And we'll talk about that a little bit later more in depth. We do have a. 00:33:45
A sample of things that we have. 00:33:53
Yeah, just make 2 sort of big picture clarification statements too, and 1 is. 00:33:57
It's sort of related to the the items in the the comment that the items were intended to be broad and open. And the council hears 00:34:04
me say this a lot and I know it's not anything anybody wants to hear, but. 00:34:10
One of the challenges with the Brown Act is the Brown Act is intended to make sure we aren't doing that and it's intended to 00:34:17
really sort and tight tighten up what we're doing so that the public knows what we're going to talk about and has the opportunity 00:34:21
to participate. 00:34:25
So. 00:34:29
As I'm sitting here, I know we don't have the attorneys in the room, but as we're starting to go really into some. 00:34:30
Rabbit holes. 00:34:35
I, I, I would encourage everybody to really give some thought into. 00:34:37
Making sure that we're still compliant with the Brown Act and we're not getting into topics that really aren't typically. 00:34:41
Heard at the joint city Port committee meetings. 00:34:47
And then on the second point to that is. 00:34:50
I also just wanted to report that our City Council actually specifically discussed whether the settlement agreement topic is 00:34:54
appropriate for the city Port Committee and decided not to delegate that to the city Port committee. Could you provide us with 00:34:59
where that decision? 00:35:03
Yeah, so it's made on April 21st. 00:35:08
At that at that council meeting, there was a motion to delegate it to the committee and that motion failed. So we can provide that 00:35:12
that comment, but so I understand the like the desire and that it would be. 00:35:17
You know, simpler if that were the case, but for us just ultimately we don't have authority from the council to discuss settlement 00:35:22
agreement. 00:35:25
Related items I'm going to make some comments because we have our our council review our agendas. 00:35:28
We have never violated the Brown Act with with an agenda that we've had. 00:35:36
A discussion of a settlement agreement. 00:35:42
That's what we're doing right now. 00:35:45
Is exactly what we should be talking about and what this committee is all about this, this agreement ties us. 00:35:49
So. 00:35:54
I take offense to your comments because we are not. 00:35:56
It is a an overview of the settlement agreement. 00:36:02
That's what Community benefit fund overview. 00:36:05
We are under community benefit overview of settlement agreement. Yeah, right. There's settlement agreements in here. 00:36:09
So if if you believe that we are potentially violating the branch in some way, then please provide some language that you think is 00:36:15
appropriate. 00:36:20
We think this is appropriate. 00:36:24
For this discussion. 00:36:26
And just because emotion failed. 00:36:28
Doesn't mean that there was a motion given to not discuss it here. Is that correct? 00:36:31
That is incorrect. 00:36:36
So you would have there was a, there was a motion. 00:36:38
To. 00:36:41
Allow. 00:36:43
Our mayor, Pro Tem and myself to act on behalf of the council and the council, it failed. They did not vote yes for us to do that. 00:36:44
So to do that is against what our own. 00:36:50
Council has. 00:36:56
Requested. We're not asking you to change anything. No, no, no, no, that's not. I think there's some miscommunication as to what. 00:36:57
What city manager was saying, OK, our council has not given us the US. The authority doesn't have anything to do with this body. 00:37:05
Our council because we're representation of the City Council. 00:37:13
Right. And so our City Council. 00:37:16
Did not vote yes for us to come to have further discussion about the. 00:37:19
Not the CBF portion. 00:37:25
But about. 00:37:27
The actual. 00:37:28
Contracts. 00:37:30
Right. 00:37:31
So there, that was voted on and it did not, they did not give us the authority to do that. 00:37:33
That again is why I made the discussion that I made earlier that we're here as representative of the City Council and our City 00:37:39
Council has voted that they do not give us the authority to come here and have the discussions regarding outside of the CBS. 00:37:47
And the contract? 00:37:56
I would like to see that motion that was, that was validated because. 00:37:57
You know, this settlement agreement ties us together, right? And, and, and there are things that. 00:38:03
That your staff. 00:38:10
Your Advisory Council. 00:38:12
Yes, are clearly. 00:38:14
Have a wrong interpretation and that's what we want to clarify. OK, but I mean you just clarified it. You said we have a wrong 00:38:17
interpretation you do and that's what we wanted to clarify on that thing. So I mean to to. 00:38:24
We see, we see council talking amongst yourselves. 00:38:31
And and with your attorney and staff and everybody. 00:38:36
And talking about the contract? 00:38:40
And those items are not. 00:38:44
Accurate. And that's what we're trying to have that discussion to say. 00:38:47
We just want to talk to you about what the intent of this was and what the language is and what. 00:38:52
A definition is, I mean, rather than getting all the lawyers. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm not. I'm not sure. I'm not sure that. 00:38:57
We have. 00:39:05
Said anything about the contract? 00:39:07
I think our last action was we asked our attorney. 00:39:09
To give us a summary of what the contract said. 00:39:13
She did that. We had further questions, you all responded. We've had discussion, but at any time have we determined that the 00:39:16
contract needs ABCD? 00:39:22
We have not done that. 00:39:27
So if you believe that, we're acting. 00:39:29
How we but what on what we believe the contract says? 00:39:32
That is, that's not true, because we haven't even gotten there yet. 00:39:36
Well, so. 00:39:40
There may be some, there may be, there may be some things that you may have heard and perceived that, but we have not come to any 00:39:42
decision as to what the contract really says. We still have questions, Matt and that's and that's it. So there are questions and 00:39:47
we had hoped that we could help. 00:39:53
You know, provide some sort of answer to that. And we do. We do want answers. 00:39:58
But we are not prepared to do that. 00:40:05
Today. 00:40:08
In what venue would you like to have the answers? Well, it's not about the venue, it's about the authority that the council gives 00:40:09
us. 00:40:13
To have the discussions and the body has not given us the authority to do that. 00:40:17
But I do have a technical question because we're not making decisions right? We're we're just educating ourselves. 00:40:22
On the contracts and I'm still learning OK and based on the conversations is. 00:40:29
You too, Martha, you've been on a little bit longer than Jess. Really need help in this particular area, right? 00:40:35
And so I don't see personally, I don't see anything wrong with. 00:40:42
Having this item on the agenda for educational purposes so we can all I still go back to we all need to be on the same page. We 00:40:46
need all need to understand. 00:40:51
The same. 00:40:56
Definition of what a convoy is or what a computing benefits fund is, and to me, this is the perfect venue. So when we have 00:40:57
community members that show up, they also understand. 00:41:03
You know what we were at that meeting, this is the educational component of this particular meeting and this is what we learned 00:41:09
about this particular section about of the settlement agreements. 00:41:14
But but we're not making decisions like Commissioner Rooney said is that. 00:41:19
We too cannot make decisions. We could say yes, are we going to have the reports? Yes. We are behind our reports. OK, Staff is 00:41:23
working on that. 00:41:27
That's not necessarily a discussion, it's just OK A we learned reports are still outstanding, but both sides. 00:41:30
OK, be OK. We all are gonna learn the definition of a convoy. OK then. But but it's not. We're not making decisions. 00:41:37
On behalf of our bodies. 00:41:46
But we're educating ourselves and that's the part that I think. 00:41:48
It's most challenging because. 00:41:51
From me personally as Kristin's lives and breathes this. Marianne was at the table when all this was being decided, So what better 00:41:54
people? 00:41:58
To have. 00:42:02
Help educate us, bring the experts in that were there to help clarify these issues, and then we'll all be moving once again in the 00:42:03
same direction. But we're not making decisions for our respective bodies. 00:42:09
Yes, so. 00:42:17
You guys saw our meetings specifically on. 00:42:20
Settlement agreements. 00:42:25
If there was anything incorrect. 00:42:27
That was said. 00:42:29
I mean, you guys had your own. 00:42:33
Your own attorney. 00:42:35
Answer those emails. 00:42:38
From the questions that we. 00:42:40
And then you you brought in. 00:42:42
The the original attorney who actually wrote the settlement agreement. 00:42:44
If there was anything incorrect. 00:42:49
That should have been a staff. 00:42:51
And for us to hold on another future agenda items so then we can. 00:42:53
We can discuss. 00:42:58
To the whole Council. 00:43:00
So what? 00:43:02
That, that's what I'm like. 00:43:05
If if something needs to be said that that wasn't crystal clear. 00:43:08
Take it to. 00:43:13
Bringing it for bringing a. 00:43:15
Public comment so that we can take it for action. 00:43:19
Well, OK, so public comment, we get 3 minutes to talk about it, right? 00:43:22
And so that's not enough. 00:43:26
Will allow for. 00:43:31
For discussion. 00:43:33
Yeah, I mean. 00:43:34
The thing is. 00:43:36
We had hoped that the City Port meeting would give us the opportunity to talk about it and then decide an action of course of 00:43:39
action, right. 00:43:43
Because like. 00:43:47
For example. 00:43:48
You have one council member. 00:43:50
Who's stating that? 00:43:52
You're renegotiating contracts with car manufacturers, saying it in public. 00:43:55
That's why I say there's misinformation. 00:44:01
That is out there. I mean, saying that you're renegotiating with car manufacturers to get a better deal. 00:44:03
And then you have another another committee who's talking about. 00:44:09
Well, all this money is our money. 00:44:14
Which is not accurate. 00:44:17
So that's why I'm saying there are there are times that happened. That was the CAC meeting. So it wasn't that council, right. 00:44:18
So where is that vehicle? I mean, do we need to go back to City Council every time that we have an issue that comes up like this 00:44:25
or is this the venue for you to go back to your colleagues to say? 00:44:31
Look. 00:44:37
Here are these comments that have been out there and and that are. 00:44:38
We need to look at how that aligns with the settlement agreement. 00:44:43
Because those two examples. 00:44:47
Are are my examples that I'm using to say that that there are people. 00:44:49
Who are representing the city? 00:44:54
Who are misinformed as to what the contract? 00:44:56
So. 00:45:00
I'm ready to hear the other items that you have. 00:45:01
But I do just want to make it very clear, and I've said this three or four times in in public meetings. 00:45:05
May have had conversations with folks. 00:45:11
About this topic. 00:45:15
But if we have a council member. 00:45:17
That is speaking. 00:45:19
The wrong information. 00:45:22
As an individual, as a, as someone who has. 00:45:26
The the Let me see First Amendment right to public. 00:45:33
To to speak free speech. 00:45:36
We can't. 00:45:39
A council cannot. 00:45:41
Tell one person what he can or cannot say unless he's going outside of some legal bounds, then we can. 00:45:45
And so I just want everyone to know. No single. 00:45:53
Council member speaks. 00:45:56
For the body of the Port Hueneme City Council. 00:45:58
Not one person does that. 00:46:01
And when it comes to when it comes to a point when someone steps out of bounds. 00:46:04
Know that. 00:46:10
That, as the current mayor, I will speak up. 00:46:12
But until someone does that. 00:46:16
We have no authority. 00:46:19
To stop someone from talking on the council. 00:46:21
We just can't do that. 00:46:24
And and and we and we can't. 00:46:25
As you just spoke. 00:46:28
We don't have the ability or the knowledge to be able to correct. 00:46:30
Right. 00:46:35
Since since we don't know what the contract is saying. 00:46:36
So I just kind of heard that you have, you know what it it says, we don't really understand it. So we don't even have the 00:46:40
authority or the knowledge to be able to check. 00:46:45
Someone who speaks on the dais. So just I just want people to understand that the count, the body part where the City Council is 00:46:50
five people. 00:46:54
If you hear something that's incorrect or something that's not true or something that maybe. 00:46:58
Rubs you the wrong way. 00:47:05
The body is five people, so if as a council, or at least three people. 00:47:07
If three people. 00:47:13
Isn't isn't saying it then it's nothing that. 00:47:14
We would hope. 00:47:18
That you all hold against us because that's just not our job. 00:47:19
Yeah, I guess this was. 00:47:23
She was speaking at a a service club. 00:47:27
And gave inaccurate information as the City Council members speaking in front of a service club. 00:47:30
Right. OK. So I mean there is incumbent upon all of us as elected officials is that? 00:47:35
We need to accurately report out. 00:47:43
What is what's happening? And this was totally inaccurate what she was saying. 00:47:45
Specifically, if you're a council member and you're representing the city, we hope that people would be speaking the truth and 00:47:52
saying the right things, but we really don't have. 00:47:56
The authority to manage. 00:48:01
What people say and police what people say. 00:48:04
Right. We just don't have that. 00:48:07
Again, we hope that that is not happening. If it is happening, it is happening. I I. 00:48:09
I you know I can't help with that but. 00:48:15
Well, you know, we, we don't have any control. 00:48:17
Part of the part of the issue, and I was going to bring this up under council member comments, but. 00:48:20
Committee comments. 00:48:26
It makes it difficult. 00:48:28
To have candid conversations when people are talking. 00:48:31
And and and and. 00:48:36
Seen misinformation or. 00:48:38
Or showing direct bias to our agency, you know, so it makes it very difficult for me. So if I'm not opening. 00:48:42
As much as I would like to be with you, that's why. 00:48:50
Yes, it's because. 00:48:53
There are now 2 council members who are doing this and. 00:48:54
That makes me. 00:48:58
Hesitant. 00:48:59
To do you have candid conversations with the setting. So just saying I got it so and I totally understand your position about the 00:49:00
the three members, OK. 00:49:04
So what we wanted to talk about was the definition of convoy because that seems to be a lot of conversation and and how things go 00:49:08
around. 00:49:13
So, Mysticus, I'd like to turn it over to you to open it up about the convoy discussion, please. 00:49:19
Yeah, just from Washington City Council, it did seem there are a lot of questions around convoys. So this again, this is not to 00:49:25
make decision or anything, but just kind of. 00:49:29
Point you to what is in the contracts and Michelle? 00:49:34
Has copies of it. 00:49:37
But one of the important things that really was in the sell agreement and this is on on the first agenda item. 00:49:41
Michelle, just pass it out. I'll walk him through it. Thank you. 00:49:50
Thank you. 00:49:54
Was to not. 00:49:56
Dispute past practices and move forward, right? Not bring up all these challenges again about what convoy fees are. 00:49:58
What? Umm. 00:50:06
Revenue sharing is what gross operation or gross operation it was agreed really the spirit of the settlement agreed was to not. 00:50:08
Contestants, I understand is new elected officials. You want to get educated and understand what these contracts mean and how they 00:50:15
feed your revenues. 00:50:19
But the agreement was to not challenge what past practices were. I mean, in all bodies unanimously agreed to this in the 00:50:22
negotiations and what ultimately became. 00:50:28
The settlement agreement. 00:50:33
Even in my discussions when I was at City Council, there were City Council members that were. 00:50:35
Rather aggressive, you know, Mr. Gone was a little bit aggressive in about what a convoy is suggesting it could be a truck. And so 00:50:41
I just think it's just for pure clarification purposes to point you to the contract it originally. 00:50:49
Came up. 00:50:56
In the 1987 agreement. So if you look at page 2 of this document. 00:50:57
A lot of colors on there. Yeah, a lot of colors on there. 00:51:04
Is where it introduced this idea of a convoy fee, and it says each car convoyed, each motor vehicle convoyed. 00:51:08
And then the 1987 agreement. It cites Section 11 for the. 00:51:16
Definition it says automotive, automobile, convoy. 00:51:20
And so it's just very clear in this document of the 1987 agreement, this was not attended to mean trucks, cars on trucks. It was 00:51:24
for each individual car. 00:51:29
That left the main gate of the port and it's. 00:51:34
Just spelled out here. And then if you go back to the very first page and tying back into the settlement agreement. 00:51:37
The agreements, uh. 00:51:44
It says. 00:51:46
The the parties acknowledge and affirm that for the duration of the term of the 1987 and 1995 agreements, District may continue 00:51:47
its past and existing and ongoing course of practice for competency for the vehicle convoy is set forth in the agreement. So it 00:51:53
was just clearly spelled out here to try and not debate and I know that. 00:51:59
You're not authorized to have. 00:52:05
Any decision making authority or anything, but we just wanted the opportunity here today to really point out what the intent of 00:52:09
the agreement was. It was really about. 00:52:13
The vehicles going down the streets out of Winnemi Rd. 00:52:17
And. 00:52:21
Interestingly, if you look at how these the mechanics of these agreements. 00:52:22
The revenue sharing agreements for everything that comes through the port. So it's cars and it's all the containers and it's 00:52:28
everything that we do. So this convoy fee is actually another fee that you already get money on cars, but it's another convoy fee 00:52:34
that you get on top of those revenue sharing agreements for the cars going down. Winnemi Rd. 00:52:41
And these cars were unlicensed. So it was like a permission slip to move the cars down the street. And that was the intent. We 00:52:48
just wanted to share that and clarify and happy to go before the board with lawyers, whatever it takes to answer the questions. 00:52:52
But if you really look at the. 00:52:57
Language of the agreement. I think you copy pasted it in 'cause it says the patties. 00:53:02
Acknowledge instead of the parties. 00:53:06
The Boston Patties The Patties, but. 00:53:09
The IT clearly says vehicle. 00:53:14
Automobile. Automobile, The language does not refer to trucks and so we just wanted the opportunity to share that. 00:53:16
Convoy is actually a verb at this point. It's not a noun. So it's it's convoying them down their own. So, so we just wanted to 00:53:22
provide that. And I do have a technical question for Mystikas or Mr. Yang is. 00:53:29
Is there a spreadsheet that shows the funding that the court has given the city via? 00:53:37
Convoy in a cars that the actual vehicles and up and above that's the reports we owe. Oh that's reports yes, OK. 00:53:42
Because that that'll help clarify. 00:53:51
The additional up and above money that the city receives. 00:53:53
Did you have any follow up on the convoys? 00:53:56
OK, alright. 00:54:00
And then I think we already talked about the reporting requirements, so. 00:54:02
We will. 00:54:07
Austin's gonna be working on that, so. 00:54:08
We appreciate that and then we'd love to hear back from from your staff as to when they think it might be doable and, and 00:54:11
reasonable. 00:54:15
So maybe that's. 00:54:20
Certainly fine. 00:54:21
OK. 00:54:23
Gonna did you have anything else? Miss tickets? No. 00:54:23
OK, Thank you. I do agree with. 00:54:26
I think Mystika's that said do the reporting backwards. 00:54:28
I'll start with the most current, most current year, OK. 00:54:32
OK. You OK with that? 00:54:37
OK. All right. Thank you very much. 00:54:39
But you want to turn your microphone. 00:54:43
Is are you OK with? 00:54:46
The format. 00:54:49
Timeline. 00:54:50
Yeah, Kristen and I have been working on a format. So what I'd say is next meeting, we will aim to come back with what we can 00:54:51
reasonably accomplish. We've got a format under the next item so we can talk through and see if there's anything going to change. 00:54:57
Yeah. So, so James and I meet every other Friday and so I brought the template in. We have a couple tweaks to it. James will bring 00:55:03
it to you and we'll sit down. We'll work through that together to make sure. 00:55:09
It will reflect the the. 00:55:15
The will of the contract in terms of the templates and ours is interestingly a little more. 00:55:17
Specific in terms of the audit piece of it. 00:55:21
And and our audit testing it so to speak, but ours is just more figuring how to get the the. 00:55:24
Money. 00:55:29
It's clear that the money gets assigned to the. 00:55:30
Whatever deliverable the city is providing for that funding. 00:55:34
I'm going to move to item 3 so we can discuss this item under the appropriate category item. 00:55:37
We're on item three. I just have a technical question. So Mr. Yang, we owe the city the reports from 2020 to 2024. 00:55:46
Yeah. So we have like, you know. 00:55:55
Requirement for 2 reports. One is financial audit which is all completed in all compliance. 00:55:57
Another another one is Activity Report Mystique as mentioned. 00:56:03
That include convoy, the number of cars Convoy is over city Street. 00:56:07
And another one is Cargo. Tony's report. 00:56:12
So. 00:56:15
That report is missing from 2020 through 2024, so I'm definitely working to get that done. So we'll report back and can, OK. So as 00:56:16
far as your timeline, you'll get back to us on the timeline to be able to fill those reports, Yes, OK. 00:56:23
But but. 00:56:31
How about where we don't owe the city any money, we've been paying the the city their money on time. Yes. OK. So we like in on a 00:56:33
monthly basis. We are making four different payment for 8380. 00:56:39
8795 and convoy fee. So she is receiving 4 checks every month. OK, perfect. Thank you. OK, so the compliance. 00:56:46
Piece under item number 2. 00:56:57
Is this in our packet here? Is this what you want to talk about? 00:56:59
So, yeah, Commissioner, and. 00:57:07
City Council members, this is just something that. 00:57:10
We put together to help demonstrate to the city. 00:57:13
What the Commissioners would like to see as a result of the sediment agreement I. 00:57:17
The Mr. Vega has a different interpretation of this because it didn't have the dates on it, but that's come back to my attention 00:57:22
as feedback that I would like that in the accounting as well. So this is something that James honestly and I are meeting in on 00:57:28
Friday and we agree we really want to collaborate together, get these documents where they need to be. I think our. 00:57:35
Goal is to certainly have this this information that's required by the contracts put together and it's probably going to take the 00:57:42
city a little bit of time to do this because going back to 2015 and finding invoices as things is going to be a challenge. 00:57:48
On our side, we have our audits and offers. It's a little easier to produce these reports. 00:57:55
So this is the first time I've seen this. 00:58:00
Document. So it looks like it's. 00:58:03
Allows for which? 00:58:07
Category. 00:58:09
On here. 00:58:10
The categories that are defined in the. 00:58:14
Settlement agreement, right? 00:58:18
Yes, that's a great 1-2 and three. 00:58:21
Category 4 isn't on here. 00:58:25
For the other. 00:58:27
Which there seemed to be a lot of those, well, I believe like, you know. 00:58:30
The CB app has four different categories, but revenue sharing has only three categories. 00:58:33
Oh, this is for the revenue sharing. OK, OK, thank you. OK. So all right, so the revenue sharing portion of the settlement 00:58:39
agreements. 00:58:44
That's what this is referring to specifically, OK. 00:58:50
So. 00:58:54
If you want to peek at it and have any comments on it. 00:58:56
The only thing I would like to see is that along with project title is more of a description of what the project was. 00:59:00
Because the title may be a little bit different, I think description gives a little bit more idea of what. 00:59:07
What actually happened? 00:59:12
So. 00:59:14
I like to make a comment. 00:59:17
The so there's a project title, the date, but when? 00:59:22
When was it completed? 00:59:27
Ah, good point. 00:59:28
Maybe like an initiated and completed day? 00:59:31
OK. 00:59:35
OK, OK. 00:59:41
And you can take us home and chew on it and provide feedback. 00:59:44
We just wanted to try to align it so it makes it pretty. 00:59:50
Straightforward, yeah. 00:59:53
OK. 00:59:55
Any other comments on that? 00:59:56
No, no. OK, Thank you. OK, good. All right. Thank you, Masigas. 01:00:00
Mr. Vega, did you have any questions on that? 01:00:05
No. 01:00:08
OK. Thank you. 01:00:09
All right, so now we'll move on to item 3, the Community Benefit Fund financial update. 01:00:10
The stickers, OK. 01:00:19
So this large spreadsheet. 01:00:22
In Front of You was put together by Austin's team. I think they did. 01:00:25
A wonderful job and I think it was a lot of back and forth with. 01:00:29
Mr. Vega's accounting team as well, to really try and reconcile all the funding dating back to the very inception. 01:00:32
Of the of the CBS Fund. 01:00:40
Dating back to when the first two years even when it was discretionary. And so the way this spreadsheet has been put together 01:00:44
there's. 01:00:47
If you go to the very end. 01:00:51
You can see the key here. 01:00:54
So all the lighter pink. 01:00:56
Are items that still require invoicing. 01:00:58
The blue are being processed by OHD and that's the Bard statue. And then to be implemented are things like the DC trip, economic 01:01:02
development strategies, and those sorts of things are the 122,000. So they're all obligated. 01:01:10
And then it's just there, there's certain ones that still need some invoicing, whether the invoices from the city or actually we 01:01:18
need it from the nonprofit. 01:01:23
So we do. I think this one's pretty close, James. We agreed the last time I shared this with you. It's pretty accurate. We're 01:01:28
we're very close. Yeah, Yeah. 01:01:32
I bet this took a long time to put it all together. It's a lot of information so. 01:01:40
But yes, it's every single project and I think it's a nice accounting list for us all to have two and we can share it with all our 01:01:45
bodies, but it really shows every single investment of the CB fund since it's an inception. 01:01:50
It's a close without. Is it opened and where it is in that process? 01:01:55
Great. Thank you for the hard work on that and. 01:02:08
I'm sorry to have that going forward. 01:02:11
OK, Item 4 is the Community Benefit Fund project update. 01:02:14
So we did receive a copy of your recommendations here. 01:02:20
That we have that. 01:02:26
And I wanted to share with you that. 01:02:27
Our board has met to. 01:02:29
Talk about this and and what we would like to see. 01:02:32
And so during our visioning workshop. 01:02:36
We wanted to move back to more of what the original intent of the agreement was to the first 3 categories. 01:02:40
The 4th category was really designed for a catch all in the event that both organizations wanted to do something outside of those 01:02:49
3 categories. 01:02:53
And what we have talked about is that it seems like we've moved everything to the other and not to the first three of those. 01:02:58
Of the settlement agreement. 01:03:06
Our board, we don't have any specifics in mind, specific projects in mind. 01:03:08
However, we just wanted to share with you that. 01:03:14
We believe a priority is the DC. 01:03:18
We also support the Banana Festival and the Beach Festival contributions. 01:03:22
And then we feel very strongly about economic development and helping the city. 01:03:26
Increase your economic development. 01:03:32
To bring more revenue in and then also grant writing support. So those items are. 01:03:35
Our priorities for us as we look at what that goes through so. 01:03:41
To go through these today, I mean we have your list. We don't have any projects specifically yet to come back to you with. 01:03:47
You guys you guys hosted? 01:03:55
Via the CBF last year the FIRST Robotics you didn't mention it the. 01:03:58
Are you going? 01:04:04
To bring that forward? Don't know. 01:04:06
So we we were having. 01:04:08
Our second vision workshop that's gonna be in August, July. 01:04:11
July. July. 01:04:16
So we have some conflicts in June, so we aren't going to have the discussion about the projects until July. So our meeting there 01:04:18
in July, is it right before our our third week. OK, yeah, the third week, third Monday, actually the second week due to the. 01:04:26
Delegation trip. 01:04:35
OK. 01:04:36
So we should have something by our city port meeting by the end of July. 01:04:37
That we can come back with some projects at that point and then we can flush those out. 01:04:42
OK. And I think all the things that you mentioned. 01:04:47
Part of. 01:04:54
This is OK. No, this is the. 01:04:58
Just the the list that we have. 01:05:01
All those items. 01:05:06
Everyone. 01:05:07
Banana. The Beach Festival, The Wellness. 01:05:09
And then we have the grant. 01:05:13
Funding from last year. 01:05:16
Or the grant writer. 01:05:19
So, so technical question. OK, She wasn't finished. Yeah, you mentioned. 01:05:23
Economic development in last year. 01:05:36
I say last year I'm talking about. 01:05:40
This is the 2023 current year. 01:05:42
So most of the things that you said are a part of. 01:05:46
What we have? 01:05:50
Pull up into that. 01:05:52
Good, good. And I see we we didn't include the Wellness event, but we did talk about that. So we wanted to continue the support on 01:05:54
that. So but I wanted to just share with you that those were the priorities that the board talked about right now and we will come 01:06:01
back with some programs that we see that go along that so. 01:06:07
This may be a little premature to talk about this today. Are you OK with that? 01:06:15
Thank you. 01:06:21
Is to implement. 01:06:23
A different process this year where we went out to the community and. 01:06:25
Input.com that. 01:06:30
The inputs from the. 01:06:33
Residents of the community. 01:06:35
Does not dictate whether. 01:06:37
We approve them or not, that was not, we didn't approve them because they were from the community. At any time that something else 01:06:41
came comes up, we can make that adjustment. But we did think that over the years we had. 01:06:47
Just just through our own personal knowledge of what we believed was out there is how we went about. 01:06:54
Choosing. 01:07:02
Right. And so we thought that there is most likely more in the community than what we know about. Therefore we wanted to institute 01:07:03
this new process to. 01:07:08
Provide so that the community could provide things that we may not have any knowledge about. 01:07:14
So that's why we went to the new process this year. And of course, you know, it went through the. 01:07:18
The citizen advisory committee. 01:07:23
And so this is our recommendation at this point, understanding in this body, we'll have some dialogue and items may come off, the 01:07:25
values may change. So we know all that is part of the process. 01:07:31
But this is this is what we have to submit. OK, thank you. I do have a question for clarification purposes. The 50,000 that we 01:07:37
allocated to a grant writer that was under what budget 2223 paper here. 01:07:43
If I may, yes, that's last fiscal years budget, fiscal year 20/24/2024. OK. That was for a grant writer, right? Yes, correct. OK. 01:07:49
And then 30,000? 01:07:55
Was last year we had leftover? 01:08:01
And we allocated that for economic development. Yeah. And I think in these meetings, we agreed that wayfinding signs were going to 01:08:04
be the low hanging fruit for that particular funding. And I know that you're working on renderings, James, correct? Yeah, 01:08:10
renderings that we'd bring back, Yeah. OK, great. So that's and then so on the 50,000. 01:08:16
Has the city had an opportunity? 01:08:23
To think about. 01:08:26
Grant writing opportunities that that you're interested in doing. Have you had the discussion or I just don't want that money to 01:08:27
sit there without some conversation moving. 01:08:32
Forward. 01:08:36
On some grant opportunities. 01:08:38
Yes. So we we have talked about it. We did have a conversation about our economic development plan at our last meeting. 01:08:41
And so we did talk about moving forward some. 01:08:50
Strategies for that, but we haven't. 01:08:56
Decided specifically, OK, what the money is being used for. So no, it's, we know it's there and we're talking about it. And the 01:08:59
reason I bring that up is because I still go back to one of our grants that we applied for at the at the port where we were able 01:09:06
to incorporate real school district, Oxnard College and Cal State Channel Islands. So let's think outside the box when we're 01:09:13
thinking about the these grant opportunities to try to engage more of our community. 01:09:20
And also it when you go before a Grand Tour is they look at OK, who's at the table, who are the additional partners that they're 01:09:27
gonna make this happen. So let's let's think outside the box, but. 01:09:32
Then with regards to your economic development plan. 01:09:39
Any idea are you when you're gonna revisit that? So we, we as a Harbor District board could start thinking about, oh, you know, it 01:09:42
would be great to partner with them on this, on this. Have you? Yeah. Again, we just spoke about that at our last council meeting. 01:09:47
City manager is going to be doing some looking back at that and bringing some information to us. So we'll be, we'll have something 01:09:53
soon. We hope to have something soon. 01:09:58
OK, so. 01:10:05
The one benefit of having a port here right next to the city is that. 01:10:07
We can apply to different pools of money. 01:10:13
Yeah, that the city can't do on its own, right. And I mean same with the other cities and counties around here. And so that's a an 01:10:15
extreme benefit for us to work together to say, OK, let's go after this pool of money under the port. 01:10:22
You know that's how we got the the overpass at Rice Rd. right? That was the port intermodal. 01:10:30
Grant And so that would have happened had the court not been a part of that, right? We can do the same thing with the city, and we 01:10:35
want to do that, and we've done that historically. 01:10:40
Built the city into our grants that's how your original dogs came about actually heard about that way long ago yeah so there's. 01:10:45
There's a real advantage to that, and that's why we think that grant writing is a priority because. 01:10:54
That can be a real benefit to both agencies, though we, you know, going along with Commissioner Zacharias, it's. 01:11:00
It's a great opportunity for us to think broadly and to come up with innovative ideas. And I mean, how exciting would that be? I 01:11:06
agree. 01:11:10
Another technical question, do you go dark in the summer? Any months? 01:11:14
We go and after Christmas we this year we're trying something different we. 01:11:18
Are we're holding a meeting each month in the summer, but over the summer? 01:11:24
July and August were only holding the second meeting of each month. So we won't we'll be dark the first meeting of each month of 01:11:28
July and August. And the reason I ask that is because I was just thinking we've got, we're 3. So June we've got June, July, 01:11:33
August, September we're planning the DC trip. So we only have three months to come up with an itinerary or items to advocate for 01:11:39
in DC. 01:11:44
And so I know that that's gonna go back and forth. So I think that those discussions need to start sooner rather than later. I 01:11:50
know that Mississippi has been talking to. 01:11:54
Our partners in BC stop you here 'cause this is under agenda #5 So OK, OK conversation. We'll bring it up a little bit later, so. 01:11:59
Yeah, so. 01:12:08
Just to clarify, the shoreline protection community develop. 01:12:11
Development on opportunistic adventures, that's what adventures that is where we would like to move back toward. 01:12:16
Where the CBF funds go for that? 01:12:23
Just. 01:12:26
Just to reiterate the. 01:12:28
The Community Benefit Fund may have a semantical. 01:12:31
Difference of opinion. 01:12:36
The communities. 01:12:39
That it is mentioned in this title here is the City of Port Wayne, DB and the Oxnard Harbor District. That's the committee, the 01:12:41
community that we're talking about. That was the intent of the agreement. 01:12:46
And inside of that agreement talks about. 01:12:52
That. 01:12:55
Both of us can utilize those monies to serve. 01:12:55
The area that we represent. 01:13:00
So there will be. 01:13:02
I'm sure things that happen in Oxnard. 01:13:04
Because that is our. 01:13:07
Our district that we represent, so that's what the agreement talks about. 01:13:09
So that will probably come up too. Sure. Can I ask you one question though? So last year when we went through this process, your 01:13:13
attorney was here and he was sharing. 01:13:19
The information about the four areas. 01:13:25
I remember asking him a specific question because the same topic came up about area #4 and so my question not. 01:13:29
Verbatim, but my question really was about. 01:13:37
Item number 4 is part of the contract. 01:13:40
Right. And so we as a body. 01:13:43
Get to decide if. 01:13:46
We have items in. 01:13:48
Items in area #4 or not? 01:13:50
So my question to you is with your comment that you all. 01:13:53
You know the port would like to focus on the three areas. Can you build a little more clear? 01:13:57
Are you saying that you won't approve items in #4 or are you saying? 01:14:04
That you want all of our items to be in one through 3. 01:14:08
Well, what we have today, OK. So if you look at all of these items that in the past. 01:14:12
You know, they go more toward the. 01:14:20
The other, yes, right. And so in reading back through the agreement, I mean, it's a subtlety, but it said if a project or project 01:14:22
cannot be agreed upon. 01:14:27
Which led me to think. 01:14:33
Well, we were just looking at. 01:14:35
A project or projects, right? 01:14:37
And in this case, there's like 10 or so, right? And so we've had the discussion amongst our board to say. 01:14:39
No, we were really just thinking about a project or two to work on jointly. 01:14:46
So this was supposed to be fun, OK, yeah, thank you. At the at the end of the the lawsuit and the settlement, this was supposed to 01:14:51
be something where our boards could come together and do something fun with a little. 01:14:57
Money that's set aside for this, that was impactful for both agencies. That was the intent, OK. And we feel like we've gotten away 01:15:05
from that and that's where. 01:15:10
Do we say no? Right. It's nothing's gonna be there? No. Yeah, I'm not saying that at all. Let me just moving back to it. Yeah. But 01:15:16
let me, let me let me tell you why I'm really asking the question. 01:15:21
Because you all are the Oxnard Harbor District, right? 01:15:27
So you have a huge. 01:15:30
Geographical area that you support in these areas where the city of Port Hueneme. So we really try to be focused in our area and 01:15:33
then when we try to determine what are the items. 01:15:39
In areas one through three that we can. 01:15:46
Do for our city or help with our community, it becomes a little harder than it is for you and so I just want you to keep that in 01:15:50
mind as you go through our items. 01:15:54
And review our items. Yeah, well and see it so. 01:15:59
Your items are not yours and ours are not ours, Right, Our submission. 01:16:04
But I mean the intent of this was that. 01:16:07
We work on something together that benefits both agencies, right? So as we look at projects. 01:16:11
Yeah, that. 01:16:17
Both agencies. 01:16:18
Benefit from that, right? And I, I saw this yesterday and I started looking through it and I'm like, huh, well, some of these are 01:16:20
interesting and I'm wondering how's the port benefit from some of these? And that's where it's kind of lost, right? 01:16:26
I mean, I'm not sure how we benefit from. 01:16:33
Improving the CRM suite. 01:16:37
For the city, OK, maybe we do we get information or something, I'm not sure, but there were some here that I was like, huh, well, 01:16:40
that's interesting because I hadn't really I lost track of what all the projects. OK, but that's what we just want to kind of move 01:16:45
back to something that is beneficial for both and move back to the intent of the original agreement. If I could also make a 01:16:51
comment on along those lines is that we have had several community members join us at the City Court meetings stating the fact 01:16:56
that we have just been sponsoring. 01:17:02
Events. 01:17:08
Activities left and right, but we've gotten away from item 1-2 and three. 01:17:10
And so. 01:17:15
They're right. They're right because some of these items don't necessarily benefit the entire community as we're, let's say. 01:17:17
Beach replenishment, something along those lines that benefits the entire community. So that's why we had discussed this saying, 01:17:24
you know what, you're right, we've gotten to it's easy to just go to F4. 01:17:29
You just drop everything in there and not because it takes time to really think about these impactful yeah projects, right? Yeah. 01:17:34
But I think that that that when that person or these individuals came to the meeting and brought this up, I thought, you know 01:17:39
what, that makes perfect sense. 01:17:43
Because we've been dropping everything into #4 right. And even your own CAC members said that, yeah, no. And I, and I and I, and 01:17:48
you're right about that. I think another conversation that we've had is when we look at one through 3, we have $138,000. What 01:17:54
really can we do? 01:17:59
And one through three with $130,000, I think that was another. And we can carry, we can carry money over if we say, hey, we want 01:18:05
to work on beach replenishment to put in. 01:18:11
These. 01:18:18
What were those things that go in the water, you know, to help with erosion? I mean, there's these, these semantic jacks almost 01:18:19
that they look like, huh? 01:18:23
And if we want to do that and we say, OK, we want to pay two years and just work on that. 01:18:28
To help the shoreline, right, We can do all that and and that. 01:18:35
That looks like a good project and we say maybe it's a multi year project that we do, but something impactful for both of them. 01:18:39
Yeah, both of our concern though, there's 4 categories in your. 01:18:44
You're saying? 01:18:50
You don't want to do anything in category 4, but yeah, no, we didn't see that. 01:18:52
Implying you're implying like let's stay away from 4, but there's that's not in the intent of the agreement. 01:18:59
There's 4 categories, yes. 01:19:06
#4 was a catch all. 01:19:09
And that's what, if you look at this, that's what was falling in. 01:19:11
So, but we we put that in there. 01:19:16
To talk about. 01:19:19
Just in case there was something that came up. 01:19:21
You know that we didn't know about and. 01:19:24
And just was a. 01:19:27
Of interest to both agencies. 01:19:28
And so the catch all, it was not the. 01:19:31
You know, outside of. 01:19:34
The first three as I as I said earlier. 01:19:36
Are we intending that we're not gonna do anything on him for it? No. 01:19:38
That's not the intent at all. 01:19:42
Just depends on how. 01:19:44
We all negotiate through what the projects would be. 01:19:45
OK, sounds good. We're not. We're not excluding it at all. 01:19:48
Yeah. We're just saying that we kind of. 01:19:51
By the wayside, OK. 01:19:54
We anything more on that? Nope. 01:19:55
OK, We wanted to give you an update on the Bard Monument Garden History walk path. It's really, it's really kind of fascinating 01:19:57
what it's kind of turned into and I think that you're going to be. 01:20:04
Pleased with that. Do we have a presentation on that or you just wanna talk through it? No, we just had a few highlights. We went 01:20:10
out to Kiesel Landscaping and they've. 01:20:15
Done some landscape architecture for the statue itself, so we're gonna put it in front of our 105 building, which is the building 01:20:20
that's at the mouth of the gate, and have the. 01:20:24
Statue look at the Maritime Museum and hope we build history to history there. The visionary of the father of the Port and the 01:20:29
city really is is Mr. Bard and have him tie and look into the Maritime Museum and support that and hopefully create some draw. 01:20:36
And the renderings are beautiful. We just need to share them with our ad hoc committee and then we'll bring them in here. But. 01:20:44
The idea is to have it look a little bit like the promenade. So the bottom would be on like a compass like you have where the 01:20:49
flags are, you know, create that kind of patio, have benches and put a wall behind it with words that celebrate the rich history 01:20:54
of the city, the port and and the the Bard family. So we stay tuned. We'll bring that back to you. We just want to make sure the 01:20:59
ad hoc committee with the port that's been assigned to this is comfortable with the renderings and we'll bring them before you for 01:21:05
your review. 01:21:10
So I sit on that ad hoc committee. 01:21:16
We're meeting Monday. 01:21:19
To go over it, but. 01:21:22
In essence, the statue is going to sit on top of a cement. 01:21:24
Pedestal with four sides on it, and each one of those four sides would have a plaque. 01:21:30
Acknowledging the. 01:21:37
Wyoming City Council member. 01:21:39
Members, the port Members. The city manager, Executive director. 01:21:42
And then there's going to be. 01:21:48
Like a dedication. 01:21:50
Black. And then some other words, you know, honoring Mr. Bard. 01:21:52
And then I can't remember what the 4th side is to you, Miguel. 01:21:56
And then after the ad hoc committee meets, we will provide the opportunity for the city to provide comments on it to see if 01:22:26
there's any changes or tweaks that you'd like to do. 01:22:31
But I think it kind of encompasses. 01:22:37
One of the items of the city to honor heroes and your walkways and. 01:22:41
Everything else that you've been doing along that line, this, this provides it here. It's going to be placed on the corner of the 01:22:48
105 building area down here. We're gonna redesign a bunch of stuff so people can walk by. 01:22:53
They can walk, sit. 01:22:59
Stay awhile, look around, just. 01:23:01
Enjoy. Yeah, So it should be nice. I I'm looking forward the meeting's Monday just got established, so. 01:23:03
And the statue is here, I haven't seen it, but it's here on port somewhere, so. 01:23:09
I'm looking forward to that. So I could just make a comment with regards to the Bard statue, and I jumped into it when it already 01:23:16
had been approved and all is that this is one of those items that was approved by the Community Benefits Committee. 01:23:22
Which included the city of Port Waddemi and Harvard District. 01:23:29
And. 01:23:32
Yet there's conversations out in the community going, why did the ports why that's ridiculous waste of money. That wasn't a 01:23:34
decision the port made. That was the decision the committee, this this body made here to move forward with approval from your City 01:23:38
Council and the. 01:23:43
People of ours. So when these decisions are made, there's historical. 01:23:48
Records of these decisions being made, but for some reason or another, it's well, why is the port wasting this thing like that? So 01:23:53
things like that after I'm gone from the seat, you know, I'm sure there's decisions are going to say, Oh my God, why did they 01:23:59
make? But but knowing that there are records saying when this motion was passed and who was on City Council when it was approved. 01:24:06
So there shouldn't be any question. But this is one of those items where I'm like, you're right. 01:24:12
You know, if if someone from the community were saying. 01:24:18
How is does this really benefit the community? You know what that may have fallen under? 01:24:21
Other categories besides one. 01:24:27
Which I would. 01:24:29
Venture to say. 01:24:30
Yes, but, but knowing that this gentleman has a historical place in our community, I'd say yeah, it benefits both. 01:24:32
Yeah. 01:24:40
OK. Any other questions on the board monument? OK, good. So stay tuned on that, you'll get feedback to. 01:24:42
You know, opportunity to provide feedback and changes and things like that. So we'll send that over to you. 01:24:51
Which leads us to the third one where? 01:24:56
You know, Oh. 01:24:59
We've had it, you know. 01:25:01
Things are are getting better as far as working together and marketing messages and. 01:25:03
You know how we align everything? 01:25:08
You know, for the. 01:25:10
For the community benefit fund dollars that are being used to make sure everybody gets their proper recognition, so. 01:25:12
You want to talk about the library mural? 01:25:19
We were a little surprised. 01:25:23
So. 01:25:25
I think this is just a flyer and I. 01:25:27
I, I think what, what some of the messaging is, is, you know, the mural went up and we want to make sure it's really understood. I 01:25:30
was at the event and I had the opportunity to share that was paid with, with CBF funding. 01:25:35
But. 01:25:40
You know when you get there, you wouldn't know that at the library, right? You don't see our logo, you don't see the city's logo. 01:25:41
There's no kind of representation. So that's one issue. And I, I was a little bit surprised when I saw the rendering too, because 01:25:47
at the end of the day, this is CBF money, it's funding, and we didn't get to really look at the design. 01:25:53
And it. 01:25:59
You don't see the port reflected in it all in the history of the Navy or? 01:26:00
You know, I know that artists came out and they did a port tour with Miguel, so they had the opportunity to visit with us. But. 01:26:05
When you went there, you know it's a beautiful mural, but it doesn't seem to. 01:26:11
Celebrate necessarily any of the heritage of the maritime industry. So just pointing that out, you know, but at the end of the 01:26:16
day, I think it is important that we at least embrace. 01:26:21
Where it came from and make sure there's some sort of educational piece at the library. I think we can work on that, James, for 01:26:26
sure. 01:26:30
That's just me. 01:26:38
And so I hear you. 01:26:40
I mean I I my. 01:26:43
Comment back is. 01:26:45
I I attended the first robotics and same thing, you know. 01:26:48
The city is. 01:26:51
You know, we're just a small little entity, you know, and. 01:26:54
Work together like we're coupled together. 01:26:58
By a border, so. 01:27:01
This to me this is this. 01:27:04
This should you know. 01:27:07
We as a team, we. 01:27:10
We can do better. 01:27:11
Yeah, collaborate. I think so. 01:27:12
And when I say I'm, I'm surprised, I just had not heard that before. It's the first time I'm hearing that. So that's what my 01:27:15
surprise is. 01:27:18
And as you spoke it out loud. 01:27:22
It kind of. 01:27:26
Kind of filed it away and said, OK, yeah, I got it. 01:27:27
So yeah. 01:27:32
So I would I would be interested in knowing. 01:27:33
What we could have done better when you say when you went there, you, you, you, you didn't see it any. 01:27:38
What could we have done better? I think that you don't have to tell me now, but that would be helpful moving forward so that we 01:27:43
understand where we have to make sure that. 01:27:47
Because I, I'll say it and when I say it, I, I don't really say a lot of words unless I really. 01:27:52
That I. 01:27:57
We're really working at trying to be really good partners with you all. 01:28:00
And to me, the work partnership doesn't really mean too much. 01:28:05
Unless you really have the action behind it, that's showing partnership. 01:28:08
And that's really what I think is very important that I'd like to continue to. 01:28:12
Push forward. I know there's some things that's going on that might not always. 01:28:17
Show that as it relates to, you know, certain, you know, people if people are saying things. 01:28:21
But ultimately. 01:28:26
I I'm looking for us to be really good partners. 01:28:29
And I think that it's in there. 01:28:32
It's happening, but I think there's more in there. 01:28:34
That we could be doing and so I'm looking forward to that happening. 01:28:37
Thank you. I think in that particular case, like with the mural, I was shocked that it's a beautiful mural. 01:28:41
But I was shocked when I found out just recently that none of our folks even had. 01:28:46
Chance to look at the renderings of what it was going to look like. 01:28:51
I'm like, oh, wait, that were we supposed to approve it together? Right, So that's one. But then I'll suggest you mentioned about 01:28:54
the FIRST robotics. 01:28:57
So on the 1st. 01:29:01
Martha, you were there, right? Who went with who? Yeah, exactly. So you did your part, but you're right on the. 01:29:03
Previous week, there should have been more consistency. Yeah. The message, Yeah, it just seemed like a county. 01:29:10
It seemed like a county slash court event. 01:29:17
You know, there we have really. No, there was no badging. 01:29:21
What do you mean by baggage? I don't know, this is just my opinion. 01:29:26
It was a part of it. 01:29:33
But it was ACBF event. 01:29:36
Partial partial. 01:29:38
Because we there's a lot more. 01:29:41
To the event outside of CVS. 01:29:44
So it wasn't just only CBF. Yeah, yeah. So it cost a lot more than $5000 to put that thing on to hold it here. So, but we we bring 01:29:47
in that from our general fund. 01:29:52
And then there's I think 5000 that comes through the CBS, so. 01:29:57
And as I remember the pictures, it has the big check with the two logos on there, right, Everybody stand there. Yeah. So OK, I 01:30:01
mean, point taken. I mean, which way we could, we could do better if we can do better. Let's talk about that and hopefully we can 01:30:08
use this as our venue to do that. So. 01:30:14
I mean, that's great. If I could just ask to. So I think the the mural committee predated I think all three of us. 01:30:20
Think so. 01:30:27
My understanding was the port was part of the Bureau committee, so is that not? 01:30:28
Accurate. 01:30:32
OK, so. 01:30:33
The artist came out and they had a port tour, but from there there wasn't really a committee. I was surprised it was done. 01:30:34
To be honest, you know, I was surprised it was done. So I and I, yeah. 01:30:41
Yeah, if I may just add here. 01:30:46
I was invited to when the the Council. 01:30:49
Approve the artist, but after that, there was never any formal invitation. Yeah. Or any follow up. And yeah, we did two of the 01:30:53
artists here, but obviously that didn't make a lasting impression. Yeah, I think for unrein the the City Council. 01:31:01
You know, slip the banana in there. 01:31:08
Well, yeah, the City Council had created a committee, and that committee was supposed to represent. 01:31:11
Basically everybody and I think we had understood that a port representative was on there. 01:31:16
And then? 01:31:20
And then I. 01:31:21
Believe too, that. 01:31:22
I thought they had added. 01:31:23
Like I remember in the conversation but they had added. 01:31:25
Something related to represent the port. 01:31:28
In that conversation like a shadow. Yeah. So, so it looks like this doesn't you couldn't tell what it is. Yeah, OK. Yeah. So I 01:31:30
think this is another one for example, where the three for the three of us, we weren't on that committee and we had understood 01:31:35
that the port was represented so. 01:31:40
For us on the next one, I guess we'll have to make sure we figure that out in advance. It was already in process before we got 01:31:46
here. 01:31:49
And then just on the library similar to the robotics. 01:31:54
I think where there was a. 01:31:58
Some confusion. 01:32:00
Was initially it was just supposed to be the grand reopening of the library, which we actually provided $400,000 of general fund 01:32:01
dollars to reopen the library. 01:32:05
And then I think at the last minute, I think the mural. 01:32:09
Got pulled in where it was like, well, let's celebrate the mural as well and so. 01:32:12
The county. 01:32:17
Being there. 01:32:18
It's our building, but they lease it from us and it was their grand opening. They had said do do we mind if we celebrate the mural 01:32:20
at the same time? And we said we don't mind. And that was essentially our involvement in that so. 01:32:26
I think for us the focus was on the reopening of the library and then like. 01:32:31
Letting them celebrate the grand opening of the mirror are the unveiling of the mural. 01:32:37
But that's something that will again, keep in mind on future projects. Understandable with your comments now. So I appreciate you 01:32:41
bringing that forward because I do see that it's the county on here and they may have made the flyer too. They made the flyer. OK. 01:32:47
So that's helpful information for us. But I think what Miss Dickus and Mr. Vega, what you're hearing from this board, this body, 01:32:53
is that. 01:32:59
We want to be able to be collaborative and have each other be acknowledged appropriately when the. 01:33:06
The condition arises and to be very cognizant of the fact that that's a priority for us. 01:33:12
So yeah. And if I could just, yeah, if I could just add I think. 01:33:18
Kristen and I can both vouch for this, that we've both made that a priority and I think. 01:33:23
What I think that what will happen now is that the occasional odd one might slip by, but we're catching, I think doing a better 01:33:27
job on on, you know, consistently addressing. 01:33:32
All the projects. 01:33:38
But we will start working on making sure we're catching those, those odd ones. But I do think. 01:33:40
I do think I see a lot more of that PR that represents both the city and the port on these projects. And I know that, I know we 01:33:45
put effort into it. I know your team's put significant effort into it as well. 01:33:50
I agree with you on that. 01:33:55
On this topic. OK, good. 01:33:56
All right. Any other questions on the? 01:33:57
OK. 01:33:59
So. 01:34:00
Washington, DC so attached to the packet. 01:34:01
Did they not get the entire? 01:34:07
Oh, OK. 01:34:10
OK. Thank you. OK, thanks. 01:34:12
So what this is, is the packet from last year's trip. 01:34:15
Excuse me? 01:34:20
Previous years? What did he go last year? 01:34:21
Oh, an election. 01:34:22
Oh, so it's it's actually been, Yeah, this will be two years. OK. Yeah. 01:34:27
23. 01:34:32
23 OK. 01:34:33
So we put brought this together so you all can see. 01:34:34
Kind of what was presented, who we met with. 01:34:38
Things like that and where the. 01:34:42
Where the priorities were and how it would all come together so. 01:34:43
Just as is just for format OK issues and for information for you to think about as Miss Zacharias said. 01:34:47
Time's going to go by really fast. 01:34:56
And we do have our. 01:34:59
Not an advocate, is he? Yeah, it's lobby. Yeah, we got a lobbyist back there. 01:35:04
And so he's working on this. 01:35:10
For us, so. 01:35:12
We've got. 01:35:15
Them that they will set up the meetings, they will arrange transportation, arrange the logistics surrounding the trip. 01:35:17
And so we can make it very productive and and bring forward so. 01:35:24
I think that what we probably need to talk about is, and you may not be prepared today to talk about it, but the issues that. 01:35:28
Our phone are facing you. 01:35:36
That you'd like to address and the folks that we talked to back Becky's and the agencies perhaps, you know, maybe the Army Corps 01:35:39
is a visit or C mag or. 01:35:44
You know. 01:35:50
The EPA, Yeah. 01:35:52
I mean, wherever those priorities lie, that's what we want to make sure that we understand. OK. And so we we can work together. 01:35:53
And Kristen, are you working together with Mr. Vega on on. 01:35:59
So, yeah, so we've talked about it, but we have to do a little deeper dive. I think we can set up a phone call with John and 01:36:05
Karaoke's who are consultants in Washington, and they are great. 01:36:10
They'll kind of have the whole. 01:36:16
From. 01:36:18
You know where we stay, where we eat. The whole itinerary will be roped into this and. 01:36:19
Whoever we want to meet with, they'll make it happen. I mean, we can't guarantee that we'll get Senator Padilla, but we can get 01:36:24
the chief of staff, right? So I mean, they'll they'll work with us to get. 01:36:29
In front of the bodies that we want to get in front of. So there may be new priorities from last time I knew clearly the the, the 01:36:34
biannual dredging and, and for us now we lost our HMT funding. I think that. 01:36:40
You heard about that so certainly. 01:36:47
Donor equity and harbor maintenance tax money and biannual dredge funding. That's a huge priority for both of us. 01:36:49
We went to EDA that they're on the chopping back a little bit. So there may be some different agencies. I even hear FEMA's on the 01:36:56
chopping block. There's not going to be any port security grants this year, but that was when we hit. 01:37:01
So James and I have a little homework to do, I think, and get in touch with Johnny Carico so can bring back some ideas to you for 01:37:07
your consideration at the next meeting. And then if we're missing anyone, we can start queuing these up. 01:37:12
I think you better. 01:37:18
Start having the discussion. Well, we meet every other Friday. 01:37:20
Do some work before it necessarily comes back here 'cause we're gonna have to. It's gonna come up fast, Yeah. So. 01:37:24
Yeah, and the trip is planned for the. 01:37:31
9th and 10th for meetings and travel days are aligned for the 8th and the 11th. So we'll we'll start working on some of the 01:37:35
obvious ones with with I mean clearly our delegation. 01:37:40
Think we'd all want to meet with our senators and our Congresswoman? 01:37:45
August. Yes, our caucus. September. 01:37:49
In September and then, you know, obviously the Army Corps is an important one. And then we'll go from there, James, and see what 01:37:52
are the obvious ones and if there's some. 01:37:56
We'll come back to this board if we're missing anything. 01:38:00
Is there anything you can remember? 01:38:03
We we, we met with some Navy organizations that were good. 01:38:07
Well, I mean, I did, you did attend a Winnemi. Do you guys kind of grant me for the county? 01:38:10
I would I would be beneficial for the city as well. 01:38:19
As dot. 01:38:22
That's a good one. OK, Project. OK dot the Winimi last mile, right? Yeah. And there are grants out there that we learned from the 01:38:24
last one where you can, I think. 01:38:28
Particularly for the city learn how to engage in some contracts with Navy base Ventura County for certain asks you know functions 01:38:33
that could services that could bring revenue streams in. I think we could re hit those. 01:38:39
Those were good ones. 01:38:45
Yeah, yeah. 01:38:47
Mm-hmm. And how about your? 01:38:49
Bubbly Springs Park, is that completely done in? 01:38:52
Because I know that was one of the topics that was conversation in 23. Yeah, it was about it's about 99% done because we're just 01:38:56
doing the final inspections. So that one should be done and and fully funded, so. 01:39:02
I think this one will focus on a lot of the same things, but mostly our infrastructure and our. 01:39:08
And our dredge project I think will be our two priorities. So we'll talk about with the. 01:39:14
Kristen about which ones would be best to meet with for those purposes? Yep. 01:39:19
Actually, it's Richard Bard Bubbling Springs Park. There you go. 01:39:25
And then how about with regards to? 01:39:31
I wish I lost my train of thought when you said but. 01:39:35
Richard Bard. 01:39:37
Any new projects that are in the horizon? 01:39:40
That. 01:39:43
I I don't know if you go before your rest of your City Council members to ask for input. 01:39:44
I just don't want to come back and there was a comment that was made. 01:39:49
Not too long ago that Why go to DC if it's just going to be about the port? We can't have it about the port. It has to be about 01:39:52
something we're both going to advocate for our community. 01:39:57
Right, so I think. 01:40:03
I don't know why I keep forgetting that. Yeah, I think what Mayor Pro Tem has mentioned in in our city manager. 01:40:06
Yeah. I think those are the three things I think are important and I think. 01:40:15
What we learned when we went a couple years ago and last year as well is. 01:40:18
Umm, that because we're up against the military facility as well, that might open us up to some other things, but I think it have 01:40:24
to as a, as a city, find out what are those things that are. 01:40:30
Most important, at this priority for us at this moment, you could get direction from the Council. Yeah, on. 01:40:37
What we can bring? 01:40:44
Yeah, yeah. 01:40:46
Yeah, that'd be part of the process would be sort of working through it here and then before we go take it to the council and make 01:40:47
sure that they bless the list essentially so. 01:40:51
So, yeah. So I guess, yeah, it comes back to both of us, both boards to say. 01:40:56
Put it on the next agenda to talk about, OK? 01:41:03
We're going back to DC these times. What are we gonna do? Focus on So do that. 01:41:05
OK, good. 01:41:09
And then? 01:41:10
Come back or. 01:41:11
Let the city manager and executive director work through that. 01:41:13
Any other items on that? 01:41:18
Annual trip. One very basic question is I think we have blocked a week. 01:41:20
Did we lock in specific like dates? I think they're thinking travel days 8th and 11th and the actual days of meetings 9th and 01:41:25
10th. OK thank you. 01:41:30
And that's flexible if you want to fly out. 01:41:36
On the 10th and take a later flight. You could if you didn't want to stay in DC. I remember last year that people stayed in 01:41:39
vacation, you know, which is an option as well. 01:41:43
Thank you. 01:41:47
Oh yeah. 01:41:49
It's a nice time of year there. OK Any other comments about the? 01:41:50
Washington, DC Trip No. 01:41:55
So there's a place for council a committee member comments about. 01:41:58
Anything that wasn't on the agenda. 01:42:03
I I just like to if you don't mind. 01:42:07
I just like to reiterate what I said earlier about the importance of our partnership. 01:42:09
We don't have a lot of. 01:42:17
Authority as it relates to what people say. 01:42:19
Right. And I know there's there's some. 01:42:23
Some there's been some comments. 01:42:26
That may lead you to believe. 01:42:30
That were our partnership is not important. 01:42:32
But I just want to say again, it is very important. 01:42:36
And. 01:42:39
At least as currently as the mayor, everything that I do will be. 01:42:41
To continue to grow and develop. 01:42:46
The partnership between. 01:42:49
The city and the port. Because we are. 01:42:51
Forever connected. Yeah, we're forever connected. So and because we are important that we continue to. 01:42:54
Have the open discussions. 01:43:01
And understand that their. 01:43:03
Just sometimes discussions that need to be had. 01:43:05
And when the discussions are over, we can go do our business and come back and and do it again. 01:43:07
So I hope that's where we're we're at. 01:43:13
As entities so. 01:43:15
I appreciate that, yeah. 01:43:17
It's I'm also reminded everywhere I go. 01:43:19
Around Port Hueneme. 01:43:23
From Bart Elementary, I was at a science fair. 01:43:24
And. 01:43:28
We are connected. 01:43:30
And I. 01:43:32
I see you guys as a collaborative. 01:43:34
Partnership. 01:43:37
And so. 01:43:38
Let's continue to move that forward. 01:43:40
We will again. We we're. 01:43:44
For limited. 01:43:48
On this dais, on what we can, you know, do. 01:43:50
'Cause we we can't speak. 01:43:54
For the Council, but. 01:43:55
Collaboratively, I think. 01:43:57
I I like where we're going. 01:44:00
And. 01:44:02
Let's keep that up. 01:44:03
Is that grace? No, totally agree. I I'm about partnerships, I'm about collaborating about. 01:44:06
The bigger picture. 01:44:12
And the greater good. 01:44:13
Everything else aside. 01:44:15
Thank you. 01:44:16
I agree too on the collaboration. 01:44:18
However there there is a however on here. 01:44:26
And and I I. 01:44:30
Haven't done this yet. 01:44:32
But I am going to put into the record today of our committee here. 01:44:34
The document that was handed out to the Board of Supervisors. 01:44:39
By one of your council members. 01:44:44
Who did not say he was handing it as a resident? He said he was speaking as a resident and they handed it to the Board of 01:44:47
Supervisors. But I want this to go into the record, please. 01:44:52
Miss Cannon. 01:44:57
This kind of document. 01:44:59
Is destructive. 01:45:02
To our relationship. 01:45:03
And. 01:45:05
You have. 01:45:06
You have a member. 01:45:09
Who has shown his bias? 01:45:11
To our agency. 01:45:14
And that. 01:45:16
Those kinds of things are what we need to work through and and that makes it really hard to have a good productive relationship 01:45:19
when you have a biased member on your council. 01:45:24
So. 01:45:29
I'm going to put that on there. I mean, that's not the first time that he has done something like this. 01:45:30
And it's. 01:45:36
It's, it's difficult and and it's, it's hurtful for the relationship as we look to do because I think that. 01:45:39
I respect both of you and and I think that. 01:45:46
That's how we're going to move things forward in a very productive way and move away from. 01:45:49
Historical. 01:45:54
Spats that have happened. 01:45:56
Ever since we both. 01:45:58
Were born, you know, I mean, both agencies were born. There's always been some conflict in there and so. 01:45:59
That's where I hope that we can. 01:46:05
Move things forward and have that collaborative relationship that that we all talk about and and to do that. And so I'm unsure of. 01:46:07
How this is getting resolved? 01:46:17
I hope it does. 01:46:20
I'm not sure where the resolution can occur. 01:46:21
But I But when there's conversation where we say we want to talk, then I hope we can talk. 01:46:26
Because. 01:46:32
You know, that's, that's the way we're going to work through things and to share our opinions and our feelings and things like 01:46:33
that. 01:46:36
So just want. 01:46:39
Put that out there. 01:46:41
And I think. 01:46:45
That's all my conversation, so. 01:46:46
Without Izzard. 01:46:50
Any last minute. 01:46:51
OK, so our next meeting is. 01:46:52
What's the next meeting, Miss Cannon? 01:46:59
For June. 01:47:17
18 So was it the third or fourth Wednesday with the 3/2? 01:47:22
Are we at the 4th now? We moved, we moved. It was this. 01:47:29
Wait. 01:47:36
Going back and forth with this. 01:47:37
So we are indeed the fourth Wednesday. 01:47:40
OK. 01:47:43
OK. June 25th. OK, good. I will be back. OK. 01:47:45
All right, good. OK. 01:47:49
So June 24th and yeah, we're back at your house so. 01:47:50
25th. 01:47:55
Yeah, June 25th. 01:47:56
At 3:30 at the city of Port Hueneme. 01:47:58
Yep, just one comment on that meeting date. We still won't have had our visioning yet on CBF, so just to. 01:48:02
Remind you that we'll still have some work to do on that, but James and I certainly have a lot of stuff in front of us that we can 01:48:09
bring back Yeah, so we won't have our. 01:48:13
Projects for consideration. 01:48:17
That time we still have time. 01:48:19
Yes. 01:48:21
The way the clock works, we have 180 days from July 1st. 01:48:23
Is there a number already for this coming year? 01:48:27
Yes. So, yeah. So based on the agreement. 01:48:31
The funding will be made for fiscal year 2025 after our audit is completed. So I believe estimated time will be. 01:48:35
Late November or early December? 01:48:44
An estimated amount is about $135,000. OK. 01:48:48
O It's a little bit of an interesting alignment because we have to make the decisions on how we're going to invest the money by 01:48:53
the end of December, but we won't know the audited amount. So we're working off of forecast, but we will know. 01:48:59
With pretty good understanding before the audit what our final revenue will be for fiscal year 25? 01:49:05
And we expect to be about 1% over last year right now. So you can anticipate on revenue sharing and CBF to be similar to last 01:49:11
year. 01:49:16
But there's a huge caveat. 01:49:21
Moving forward as to what? 01:49:24
Policies come out of DC and as you can create policies and tariffs and stuff like that, so. 01:49:27
Please note that we we've built a conservative budget. 01:49:33
Because there's a question mark $2,000,000 last week, so. 01:49:36
You know, from one of the funds that got cut, so. 01:49:42
Every week is a new. 01:49:45
Adventure. So yeah. So we're keeping that in mind. OK. Any final questions, comments? 01:49:47
All right. Thank you very much. We stand adjourned. Thank you. 01:49:53
About what? 01:50:01
Oh. 01:50:05