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A regular meeting. I'm calling this meeting to order. The time is now for PM. 00:00:47
Madam Clerk, may we have a roll call, please, Member Leau. 00:00:52
Present member Lopez. 00:00:56
Present Member. McQueen, Legend. 00:00:58
That's it, Vice Chair Thomas. 00:01:00
And Chair Hernandez here let the record reflect that ex officio member Kendall Wilson is absent. 00:01:03
Thank you. 00:01:08
We will now hear public comments. Comments are limited to 3 minutes. Madam Clerk, does anyone have a public comment? No public 00:01:10
comments. 00:01:13
Moving ahead. 00:01:17
Agenda approval for water agency May I have a motion and a second to approve the agenda? 00:01:19
You've had time to take a look at it. 00:01:25
Move to approve. 00:01:27
2nd. 00:01:28
OK, all in favor. 00:01:30
Aye. 00:01:32
All opposed. 00:01:33
Hearing none, motion passes unanimously. 00:01:34
All right, conflict of interest in Levine Act disclosures do any members of agency. 00:01:36
Have any conflicts of interest to disclose for the listed closed session items on the agenda? Sorry I've meant to remove that but 00:01:41
it's just for items on the agenda. 00:01:45
OK. 00:01:49
Oh, yeah, you're right. OK, Just for items on the agenda, does anybody have a conflict of interest? 00:01:53
To disclose. OK, very good. 00:01:58
Hearing none, we'll move on to presentations. 00:02:00
Come on up. 00:02:03
Nicole Richardson and Charlotte Lopez Holyfield will be delivering a presentation on the Delta Conveyance Project. 00:02:04
And they representing the the Metropolitan Water District of Southern California and the Cayegas Municipal Water. 00:02:11
District. 00:02:17
Welcome. 00:02:19
Thank you. Thank you, Chair Hernandez and members, thank you so much for allowing us to the opportunity to come speak before you 00:02:19
today. We really appreciate it. 00:02:23
As chair, Hernandez says. 00:02:27
I'm Charlotte Lopez Hollow Field. I'm the manager of external affairs at Cayegas Municipal Water District. 00:02:28
Presenting with me today is Nicole Richardson of Metropolitan Water District A, Southern California. 00:02:34
And we're happy to talk with you for a few moments about the Delta Conveyance project, which has had a long. 00:02:38
History A winding history in California will give you an overview of the status of it currently, some efforts to move it forward, 00:02:44
and its criticalness to the water supply in Ventura County. 00:02:50
So I just want to take a moment as a refresher to remind. 00:02:57
Folks, what Cayegas is we are Ventura County's largest water supplier. 00:03:00
We are a water wholesaler importing primarily State Water Project water from Metropolitan. We have 19 purveyors serving 3/4 of the 00:03:04
population of Ventura County, so that's 650,000 people. 00:03:10
And we are an independent special district governed by A5 member elected board and we've been around just about 75 years. 00:03:17
So you can see our service area there, primarily southeastern Ventura County, of course. 00:03:24
You are some. 00:03:28
An entity we deliver water to as well. 00:03:30
So just a snapshot of our purveyors. They include cities such as Port Windy, Camarillo, Oxnard. 00:03:32
County Water Works, special districts, investor owned utilities. 00:03:38
Mutual water companies we have a wide variety of public. 00:03:42
Private, large, small, you name it, it's probably a purveyor of caiages. 00:03:46
So the path of imported water to Cayegas is really important to understand why the DCP is so important. 00:03:51
It comes from 400 miles away. 00:03:58
In the Sierra Nevada. 00:04:00
And it comes down to us through the State Water Project, which is a series of pumps, pipes, aqueducts. If you've driven in the 00:04:03
Central Valley, you've probably seen it. 00:04:06
That gets down to Metropolitan Water District. 00:04:11
Which then delivers it to their 26 member agencies, of which Cayegis is 1. 00:04:14
We import that water through a mile long tunnel in Chatsworth. 00:04:20
And then we distribute it out to our purveyors. 00:04:23
So and then they in turn. 00:04:27
Send it to residents and businesses. We don't serve them directly. 00:04:28
So the State Water Project was built in the 1960s. 00:04:33
As I said. 00:04:37
Our share of it is 400 miles away. 00:04:38
The total length of the project is 700 miles. 00:04:42
And it serves 2/3. 00:04:46
Of the state, so 27 million people in California. 00:04:48
Are dependent on the State Water project in whole or in part? 00:04:52
And This is why it's so important that it be modernized. 00:04:56
And optimized. 00:05:00
For Cayegas service area. 00:05:01
You know, in the 60s it needs a little refresh. Let's say the Delta Conveyance project is a way to do that and really optimize 00:05:04
this system so that we can. 00:05:08
Take full advantage of that conveyance system to bring. 00:05:13
Water to our area. 00:05:16
Because the percentage of water that originates from. 00:05:19
The State Water Project. 00:05:22
Is 100%. 00:05:24
100%. 00:05:26
So Nicole will talk more about. 00:05:27
Metropolitan sources being both the State Water Project and the Colorado River, but here in Cayegas service area. 00:05:29
It's 100% of our supply. 00:05:35
So with that. 00:05:37
I am going to turn it over to Nicole to give you more detail about the project and happy to answer any questions at the end. 00:05:38
Thank you. 00:05:44
Thank you, Charlotte. Good afternoon, Chair Hernandez and directors. 00:05:47
I would now like to present a high level overview of the modernization project known as the Delta Conveyance Project. 00:05:51
I'll go over its benefits to Metropolitan and our involvement in the project. And before diving into those details, I'll go into 00:05:56
more detail about who Metropolitan is. 00:06:01
OK, so Metropolitan Water District, Southern California is a state established. 00:06:10
Cooperative. 00:06:14
That provides water to its 26 member agencies throughout our six county service area, which includes Ventura County all the way 00:06:15
down to San Diego County, includes Orange County, San Bernardino, LA and Riverside County. 00:06:21
And then each member agency is represented on our 38 member Board of Directors. 00:06:27
Cayegas is one of our member agencies and Director Jackie McMillan is one of our directors who represents Cayegas. 00:06:32
We import water from two sources, so Colorado River via the Colorado River Aqueduct system, which we own and operate. 00:06:39
And then the. 00:06:46
And from Northern California, the N Sierra Nevada area. 00:06:48
Through the State Water Project with it, which is operated by the California Department of Water Resources. 00:06:52
And Metropolitan is the largest state water contractor of the State Water Project. We are one of 27 public water agencies that 00:06:57
take from this source. 00:07:02
Metropolitan does have a state water contract for 1.9 million acre feet. 00:07:06
1.9 million acre feet annually. 00:07:13
However, based on the allocation of that year, State Water Project allocation, we only get a percentage of it. So this year or at 00:07:15
this point we have 30. 00:07:19
5%, that's the allocation. So we have 35% of 1.9 million acre feet. 00:07:23
And that will change and fluctuate based on precipitation levels, regulations, whatever drought conditions, things like that. 00:07:28
And so together these two imported sources. 00:07:36
Support a $1.6 trillion regional economy. 00:07:38
And then the Delta Conveyance project. 00:07:44
Often referred to as the DCPA will. 00:07:46
Probably refer to it moving forward is a proposed state project that seeks to modernize the aging delta infrastructure. 00:07:49
So it modernizes, it will modernize the State Water Project. 00:07:55
The project involves the construction of a new 45 mile tunnel system and two completely new northern delta. 00:07:59
Intake facilities, so they're diversion projects that take water from the river. 00:08:06
And then into the tunnel, the conveyance, the conveyance system. 00:08:10
The tunnel would divert water from. 00:08:14
Around the delta, so to avoid the central delta communities. 00:08:16
And then it would. 00:08:19
Be it would go into the State Water Project conveyance system. 00:08:21
And if operational, the project will be able to capture and move water during really heavy storm events. 00:08:24
Or snow, snow melt runoff and then deliver it to reservoirs and groundwater basins throughout the state. 00:08:30
And the purpose of the DCP is to strengthen the long term water supply reliability of the State Water Project. 00:08:35
And protect the supply from extreme weather conditions, so that includes sites like seismic risks. 00:08:41
Earthquakes, sea level rise. 00:08:46
Atmosphere rivers which are very heavy storm events too. 00:08:48
So after more than 20 years of planning the Delta conveyance. 00:08:55
Project has been refined and redesigned. 00:08:59
DWR has welcomed and encouraged extensive community input. 00:09:03
Which has helped them address local impacts and environmental concerns. 00:09:07
DWR has also produced. 00:09:11
Hundreds of studies. Technical reports. Engineer Engineering reports. Modeling Analysis. 00:09:14
And the list goes on. And because of all of these data, the qualitative quantitative data. 00:09:19
We are able to summarize the benefits of the project into these 4 categories. 00:09:24
Climate resiliency, seismic resiliency, operational resiliency, and water. 00:09:29
Water quality reliability. 00:09:33
So to begin with the first one, future precipitation patterns are expected to result in more rain flowing through rivers. As we've 00:09:35
seen, modeling has predicted that we're going to see shorter winters. 00:09:41
And there's going to be less snowpack runoff and we're going to see more precipitation in the form of atmospheric rivers, which is 00:09:48
the heavy storm events. 00:09:52
And so because of that, our State Water Project conveyance system has to adapt to the changing climate. 00:09:56
And this is what the DCP will do. 00:10:02
The DCP will enhance the system's ability to capture, move and store water during extreme weather events. 00:10:04
And this increased flexibility helps mitigate the effects of climate induced variability in precipitation and runoff patterns. 00:10:11
Ensuring a more reliable water supply. 00:10:17
Not only for Southern California. 00:10:20
For Ventura County, but also throughout the state. 00:10:22
And then the seismic resiliency. 00:10:25
So the project's design includes. 00:10:28
Well, the design includes features to improve the State water projects, resilience to seismic events, earthquakes. 00:10:30
And then according to the US Geological Survey. 00:10:37
There a 70 There's a 72% chance of a 6.7 or greater magnitude earthquake in the B. 00:10:39
In the Bay Area by 2043 and if there is a catastrophic event. 00:10:46
Near or around the Delta, it would pose significant threat to our water supply down here in Southern California. 00:10:50
And as Charlotte had mentioned, we rely in Southern California metropolitan gets 30% of the water from state water projects. So 00:10:58
this is very significant for our region. 00:11:02
By adding the two new intake facilities in the North Delta. 00:11:08
And constructing an earthquake resistant tunnel, the DCP will reduce the vulnerability of water deliveries being. 00:11:12
Disrupted by earthquakes? 00:11:18
The project ensures there is continued water supply in the event of a seismic event near the delta. 00:11:19
And then operational resiliency. 00:11:25
So State Water project deliveries have declined even during wet years and. 00:11:27
Due to various. 00:11:31
Various fish regulations, as we've seen during the last row in 2023, for example, we had a really. 00:11:32
A lot of storm events. It was a really wet year, but we only received. 00:11:37
50 to 70% of our allocation and. 00:11:41
There were some disruptions in being able to deliver the water to Southern California and so by, you know, constructing the Delta 00:11:45
Conveyance project, we will introduce more operational flexibility enabling water managers to divert water from. 00:11:53
The Sacramento River, so from the northern delta. 00:12:01
Down. 00:12:04
Around the delta into the State Water project. 00:12:05
So. 00:12:08
You know, there'd be a better management on water flows, reducing conflicts with the fishery regulations in the South Delta. 00:12:09
Which will optimize our water deliveries during varying hydrological conditions. 00:12:15
And then lastly, I wanted to emphasize the importance of the water quality reliability if the DCP is constructed. 00:12:21
So it would improve the timing and location of water diversions. The DCP. 00:12:28
Project helps maintain water quality standards. 00:12:32
In the State Water Project. 00:12:35
The project minimizes the risk of water quality degradation due to factors like salinity intrusion and algae blooms. 00:12:36
Ensuring that the water delivered to urban and agricultural users meets health and safety standards and. 00:12:42
Also, if there was a disruption in the levees because they are aging. 00:12:48
We because of the north intakes, it would help divert water from the Sacramento River and then it would go underground into the 00:12:52
State water project. So if there is an issue with the levees, which is. 00:12:57
Which would affect see the fresh water in the delta. 00:13:02
And create more seawater intrusion. 00:13:06
You know, we would be able to, the DCP would be able to avoid a disruption in delivering water supplies to communities that need 00:13:08
it or who rely heavily on the state Water Project. 00:13:13
And this is just a visual just to demonstrate what exactly what happened to the delta if there was a major earthquake in the delta 00:13:21
or near the delta. 00:13:26
The blue signifies the freshwater and the red signifies salt water from the Bay. And so if there is a disruption, a major 00:13:32
earthquake like I had mentioned that the US Geological Survey had predicted. 00:13:37
Within 36 hours or within. 00:13:43
Well, three or six hours, yes, there would be the whole delta would be inundated with seawater, which would affect our. 00:13:46
Deliveries to Southern California. 00:13:53
The data bar is definitely raised to Southern California. 00:13:55
OK. And this is just to show like theoretical diversions if the DCP was constructed last year? 00:14:01
And if it was operational last year? 00:14:09
We would have been able to, or DWR would have been able to store and move 956,000 acre feet of water between October 2024. 00:14:11
And June of this year. 00:14:19
And so this is enough. 00:14:21
Supply. 00:14:22
To this is enough water to supply over 10 million people or over 3,000,000 households for one year. 00:14:24
And then as we experienced during the most recent drought, State Water Project supplies our impact. 00:14:32
Impacted by extreme dry conditions, as we saw during the last drought. 00:14:36
And so as California faces more rain, less snow and longer droughts, the this capability to store water for future dry years will 00:14:41
become more crucial. 00:14:44
And this is the reason why the State Water Project adaptation strategy identifies the Delta Conveyance project as the single most 00:14:49
effective action. 00:14:53
For a sustainable water future. 00:14:57
And it reaffirms that the Delta Conveyance Project is a key adaptation trash. 00:14:59
Key adaptation strategy to address climate driven challenges to California's water supply. 00:15:03
OK. And so? 00:15:11
Although the aging system faces serious challenges. 00:15:14
There is a projection that 13 to 22%. 00:15:17
There will be a 13 to 22% supply loss over the next two decades. 00:15:21
Due to different risks, so whether it's extreme dry conditions, climate, drought and major earthquakes. 00:15:25
And then I want to go into a little more details. 00:15:36
Terms of how Metropolitan is evolved, so today the project. 00:15:38
Is very different from the many iterations that we've seen. 00:15:42
The previous project concepts to the state's credit, they have been very deliberate and thoughtful in engaging the public. 00:15:45
They made a concerted effort to engage the tribal communities, opponents to the project, or people who are concerned with the 00:15:52
project early on into these conversations. 00:15:57
It's been. 00:16:02
The very first iteration was like over 20 years ago. And so it's it's gone through many different forms and it's been refined and 00:16:03
redesigned. 00:16:07
The project at this point has already undergone the sequel process and it was certified in 2023. At this point in the timeline 00:16:12
there's two things that it's going through the pre construction permitting phase. So first DWR has to seek water rights permit so. 00:16:21
Through the State Water Resource Control Board. So right now they're undergoing. 00:16:29
Public hearings. 00:16:33
For their water rights permit. 00:16:34
And then the second form of this or second part that they have to complete is a certification for consistency. 00:16:35
They have to submit that certification for consistency to the Delta Stewardship Council. 00:16:42
And they actually did that on Friday. And So what this essentially is, is it's just to determine whether the project, these DCP is 00:16:48
consistent with the Delta plan and the Delta plan is a strategy to meet the Co equal goals. 00:16:54
So they have to complete DWRS to complete two of those before any talks of concert construction are taking place. 00:17:02
So they've already submitted. 00:17:11
The uh. 00:17:12
The certification for. 00:17:13
Consistency on Friday. 00:17:16
And then they're undergoing the public hearings once all that is complete. 00:17:17
Metropolitan will. 00:17:21
They'll come back to all the state. 00:17:23
DWR come back to all the state water contractors, including. 00:17:24
Metropolitan and. 00:17:27
Ask for an investment on whether we would like to invest in the. 00:17:29
The construction of the project. 00:17:32
We won't do that until 2027 when all the permitting, all the studies, technical studies have been completed. 00:17:34
But so far, we are supporting this phase of the project. We've already invested $300 million since. 00:17:41
2020 So in 2020 we gave. 00:17:48
Half of that and then 2024. The board also voted to support the remaining part to. 00:17:50
Fulfill. 00:17:56
The environmental review. The design, the planning and permitting of the Delta Conveyance Project. 00:17:57
So that will be ongoing until 2027 and then it'll come up for the board for a vote. 00:18:01
On whether they would like to participate in the investing in the construction of the project. 00:18:07
And that's where we are right now. It's still going forward, it's still progressing. 00:18:12
And we are just monitoring the progress on the state level. 00:18:17
And we welcome any that that concludes my portion of the presentation and Charlotte and I are. 00:18:23
Are welcome any questions that you may have. 00:18:27
OK. Thank you, Mr. Richardson, and thank you. 00:18:29
Miss Lopez Holyfield for your presentation. Does the Board have any questions? 00:18:32
Or comments, It's just a presentation, so we can do both. Hi, just have a couple of questions. Thank you. 00:18:37
Chair can. 00:18:43
You go back. 00:18:44
Couple of slides you you. 00:18:45
Had some numbers, some percentage numbers of the. 00:18:47
Water loss in the years. 00:18:50
And I thought it was like 11 something to 2213 to 22, something like that. 00:18:53
Sorry about that. Yeah, that's OK. 13 to 22. 00:19:00
1322% OK, so. 00:19:02
Is that of as of today or 2027 and. 00:19:05
And if not? 00:19:09
How does that number change as we? 00:19:10
Approach, uh. 00:19:12
So they're project, so DWR released this type of study that if this we don't modernize the state water project. 00:19:13
We could essentially see a 13 to 22% water supply loss and that's due to the different environmental factors, so earthquakes due 00:19:20
to certain things I. 00:19:26
I'm trying to think what else? 00:19:34
The lack of precipitation, the fish regulations which are impeding the DWS ability to import water, deliver water to areas that 00:19:36
need it the most, so. 00:19:41
The system is aging. It was built in the 1960s, and when they built it, they didn't factor in all the different climate impacts 00:19:46
that would impact the the existing infrastructure. 00:19:52
So. 00:19:57
This is what they project for the next 20 years. There will be a loss. If there was a major earthquake, we would it would disrupt 00:19:58
the system. 00:20:02
But if? 00:20:06
This was created for example. 00:20:06
We would be able to capture and move water more efficiently. 00:20:10
And I hope that answers. Yeah, it does. One more question just for my own information. So you talked about the impacts if there 00:20:13
were an earthquake to the delta and the saltwater water intrusion. 00:20:19
Is there saltwater intrusion now? 00:20:25
You know, it's a good question. I think not to the. 00:20:29
No, there I mean I think. 00:20:32
I'm not a technical expert with that, but not to the point where it's going to affect our treatment processes or anything like 00:20:33
that. 00:20:37
It's fresh water, so our treatment facilities are designed to treat fresh state water Project water. 00:20:40
If there was. 00:20:46
Sea water intrusion. Then we would completely have to change how we treat our the existing supply. 00:20:48
If there was a levee failure. 00:20:55
What I've heard from engineers that it could potentially. 00:20:58
It we would probably it would be months or possibly years of not having this type, this supply come. 00:21:03
And be delivered to us. 00:21:09
So. 00:21:11
They're constantly doing maintenance. I know DWR is constantly maintaining the levees, but this is not. 00:21:12
This is. 00:21:17
Like we're not able to capture if there was an actual if there was. 00:21:19
An actual earthquake it would. It could potentially take months or years for it for us to get the system up and running. 00:21:23
But because we have, if we have the north intakes, it would avoid that situation. We would get it from the very top of the river 00:21:28
and then be able to funnel the water underground, underground. 00:21:33
And away from the delta and into the state water, the existing State Water Project conveyance system. 00:21:38
I hope that answered a little bit. It does. And I, I want you to just attribute that question to me being able to go on your tour 00:21:44
to the Delta and you know. 00:21:50
Of North. So thank you so much for that. 00:21:56
Any more questions? I have a question, it said Earthquake resilient. 00:22:00
Umm, it seems like. 00:22:03
That particular area. 00:22:07
In in California is. 00:22:09
It has a high frequency of earthquakes and that specific. 00:22:11
Area. 00:22:16
So how is the earthquake resilient if? 00:22:17
If you know that that. 00:22:19
Has a you know it's near a major fault. 00:22:21
I think the materials they use are earthquake. The actual tunnel that they're creating is the 40. The the Delta Conveyance project 00:22:26
is an actual 45 mile tunnel. 00:22:31
And so it's an addition to the existing state water project, so. 00:22:35
That their materials they're using. 00:22:40
Our earthquake resilient and they're also they've done hundreds and hundreds of technical studies they. 00:22:42
Completed SQL process and everything and so. 00:22:48
They've the engineers. 00:22:50
Much smarter than I am that could better explain all of this, but. 00:22:52
Determined. 00:22:56
That you know, it would be resilient. 00:22:57
In the face of a major earthquake. 00:23:00
Based off. 00:23:02
You know, the studies that they've made and. 00:23:03
I think how they've done it for the. 00:23:05
They've had different alternatives when they did the sequel process. 00:23:06
Or the environmental review process and they found the Bethany alignment, which is where the tunnel is located. 00:23:10
Is the best outcome for the project. So they did they looked at all these different alignments and the Bethany alignment was the 00:23:16
best one in terms of like the fault lines and all of that. They took all of that into consideration. So that was part of the 00:23:21
sequel process making sure that. 00:23:26
They're complying with. 00:23:31
You know the. 00:23:33
The environment. The surrounding environment. 00:23:35
So yeah. 00:23:37
I could also follow up with more specific what's the total cost of the project? 00:23:38
It'd be upward to like $20.1 billion. 00:23:42
Metropolitan's portion is 47% of that, so it would be about a little bit over $10 billion. 00:23:47
And it would be a phased approach how we would. 00:23:54
The finance department is working out the numbers if the if the board decides to move forward with the project. 00:23:57
On how we. 00:24:02
How we'll finance it. 00:24:03
So just for clarity, Ventura County. 00:24:04
Receives its water from the state. 00:24:08
Yes. So we have member agents. 00:24:13
CAIUS, Miss. Smaller district, is one of our member agencies, so. 00:24:15
We are state water contractor. We. 00:24:18
Have a certain portion of have a certain allocation. 00:24:21
And then we give it to our member agencies. So we deliver it to our member agencies. One of them is, you know, Callegas. 00:24:24
And then Cayegas delivers it to your. 00:24:29
Their water retailers and then. 00:24:32
Then it goes to their customers but. 00:24:34
But but yes, Member Lopez, our, our water supply is state water project dependent, 100% at Cayegas. 00:24:36
But then that comes from the. 00:24:45
Correct. 00:24:47
OK. So very little comes up from North? 00:24:47
Very little comes from Colorado River. Colorado River. 00:24:50
OK, got it. 00:24:52
Any more questions? 00:24:54
I just had one question. Besides Metropolitan, who else would? 00:24:56
Be involved in making the decision about moving forward. 00:24:59
Yeah, so it would be the 26 other public water agencies which are considered state water contractors who take from the. 00:25:02
The State Water Project. 00:25:09
So it'd be. 00:25:10
It would be Santa Clarita Valley Water District. It'd be San Gabriel Valley Municipal Water District. There's a number of them. 00:25:12
Santa Clara. 00:25:15
Water district, there's a number. I don't have all the list in front of me, but. 00:25:19
There's 26 others and they all have different portions. So we have the greatest portion, but some have like 5% or 10% because they 00:25:22
have alternative water supply. 00:25:28
Sources. 00:25:33
Does everybody have to agree for it to move forward or just enough? 00:25:34
To provide the funding to move forward. 00:25:38
I think that. 00:25:40
Ah, Yathu Berry. Good question. 00:25:41
Like for example. 00:25:44
If during the pre construction phase. 00:25:45
DWR went to every single state water contractor to ask. 00:25:48
To seek approval to invest in this phase because DWR doesn't have the funds to. 00:25:52
Support the studies the pre construction phase so they had to go. So it has to be funded by the state water contractors. 00:25:58
To my understanding, it has to be all of them. 00:26:04
Um, but I. 00:26:09
But if one doesn't come through, I don't think that the project is going to be. 00:26:11
Unable to move forward. So I think it depends how it's all divvied up. 00:26:16
The. 00:26:20
The financing. 00:26:21
More questions. 00:26:25
Have there been any studies on? 00:26:26
What the estimated impacts this will be on the Caius like water rates or anything like that? 00:26:28
That's a good question, member Libo. 00:26:35
That. 00:26:38
As Nicole said. 00:26:39
The financial analysis is ongoing, so there are no specifics quite yet. 00:26:40
And the project has. 00:26:45
Changed over the years quite significantly. So we want to be certain that this is, you know, the final iteration and before we can 00:26:47
actually accurately predict impact on rates. So I'm I'm just going to say it's a work in progress. 00:26:53
And then what are the like? 00:27:00
Biggest. 00:27:02
Impediments, I guess to this project going forward in 2027. 00:27:03
Yeah, it's a good question. 00:27:08
Talk about the political ones a little bit. 00:27:10
Yeah, there are some opposition. 00:27:13
And so there's some opposition. 00:27:14
The Delta communities are opposed to this project. 00:27:16
For various reasons. 00:27:21
I guess to name a few is like there might be water quality issues with the water quality in the delta construction because the 00:27:23
construction is going to be a long, it's going to be very long. 00:27:28
So there's going to be noise, air quality issues that. 00:27:33
You know. 00:27:39
They brought up. 00:27:40
Also the tribal concerns, I know protecting tribal resources when construction is actually taking place and making sure that they 00:27:42
are protected when you know they do encounter. 00:27:47
An artifact of some sort. 00:27:54
DWR has addressed all of these concerns in the various. 00:27:56
Reports and studies and things like that, specifically with the tribal concerns. 00:28:02
They had meant they've worked with the tribal community they've given them and see at the table. 00:28:07
And they've. 00:28:11
In they've taken their concerns and they've also said they were going to have a try. It's a tribal community representative. So 00:28:13
when construction is happening. 00:28:17
They will be able to like. 00:28:22
Reach out to the tribal representative to like help them with the process and protecting those artifacts. 00:28:24
From my understanding with DWR. 00:28:30
And then in terms of water quality and? 00:28:32
With noise, air pollution. 00:28:36
I mean, there's going to be that with construction. 00:28:38
But. 00:28:41
This was this this this specific alignment had the least environmental impact. 00:28:42
To the community. 00:28:47
Additionally, they're also investing $200 million in a community benefits program because they understand the water the specific 00:28:49
projects are going to directly benefit, like provide a water supply for those communities. 00:28:55
So they are investing back into the community by allowing them to apply for these grant programs. It could be anything. It could 00:29:01
be water, it could be it could be electrical, it could be any type of project really. 00:29:07
They would apply for it and you could receive a grant funding for your project, for a local project. So they're trying ways to 00:29:13
involve the community. They've they've welcomed a lot of feedback from them and incorporated that. That's why they've redesigned 00:29:18
the project so many times because they want to make sure that they're incorporated into it. 00:29:24
But yeah, I think with other concerns happening. 00:29:30
In the future. 00:29:34
I think litigation, there's going to be a lot of litigation, like they're undergoing their public hearings and there's a lot of 00:29:35
comments in opposed to the project. 00:29:39
Yeah. 00:29:45
That's all I could really say about that. 00:29:46
Thank you. 00:29:49
Do any of our water reps here have any questions or comments? 00:29:51
Based on what we've heard. 00:29:55
This afternoon. 00:29:56
Amy, OK. 00:29:57
You guys have probably. 00:29:59
Quite familiar with. 00:30:00
Project Anyway. OK, great. 00:30:01
Well, thank you very much for your presentation. You know, when I heard you speak at V COG, you had an ask. 00:30:03
At the end. 00:30:08
So what can we do in the meantime? And we hope we come back and keep us. 00:30:09
Praised Of Of. 00:30:13
Price of what's going on and. 00:30:15
We'd be happy to chair Hernandez, happy to do so. We have no ask of you today, but. 00:30:17
We don't. We reserve the right to come back. 00:30:23
All right, very good. Well, thank you again. It was great seeing you at Beacon. 00:30:25
Wonder Peacock dinner. Yeah. Thank you all for your time. Thank you. Thank you so much for your time. 00:30:28
Very interesting. 00:30:33
OK, moving along. We are now at the consent. 00:30:35
Portion of the agenda will consider the items on the consent calendar, which will be enacted in one motion unless an agency 00:30:39
member. 00:30:42
Has a request to remove an item for discussion. 00:30:46
Any request to remove an item for discussion? 00:30:50
If not, may I have a motion and 2nd to approve our consent calendar? I move to approve. 00:30:54
I'll second. 00:31:00
2nd Madam Clerk, can we take a vote all in favor? 00:31:02
Aye, all opposed. 00:31:05
Hearing none, motion passes unanimously. 00:31:07
Terrific. OK, we're now at Business items. 00:31:10
Item 5 is the award of contract to the social. 00:31:13
So Cal Pacific Construction Core. 00:31:16
DBA National Coating and Lighting Company. 00:31:18
Incorporated for the PHWA. 00:31:21
.6 M. 00:31:24
Empty reservoir rehabilitation project. 00:31:26
Number W82025-07 in the amount of. 00:31:28
575,335. 00:31:32
And approve a 10% construction contingency up. 00:31:36
57,500. 00:31:39
$33. 00:31:41
Will staff please present the report? 00:31:45
Good afternoon, Chair Hernandez and PHW board members. 00:31:48
So this project is before you is the. 00:31:51
Obviously the tank rehab contract award. 00:31:54
This project was approved by the board earlier this year in June. 00:31:57
During the budget process. 00:32:01
Just have a. 00:32:04
Few few slides, I just want to give a quick overview. I know the board has heard about this project for months. 00:32:05
Again, it's our 6000 gallon tank at the at the treatment plant facility on Perkins Rd. 00:32:10
Kind of what sparked this whole project. We did a dive inspection which I shared at a meeting a few months back. 00:32:17
They found a lot of corrosion. 00:32:23
And just the coding was failing and so this project needs to take place. 00:32:26
Staff felt as soon as possible. 00:32:31
So quick kind of high level scope of work. 00:32:35
So they're going to go in, they're going to sandblast the exterior, interior. 00:32:37
Down to bare metal. 00:32:42
And then they'll come in and make any repairs. They might find something after the sandblast. 00:32:44
There could be some minor repairs. We're not expecting anything major. 00:32:49
At this point. 00:32:53
And then after that they'll go in and they'll coat the interior and exterior of the tank. 00:32:55
And there's a picture there, the ladder you can see is. That's the interior ladder that will be replaced. 00:33:00
Project schedule. 00:33:07
We're hoping to kick this project off. 00:33:08
December 1st, we're hoping to have them on site mobilizing. 00:33:10
December 1st. 00:33:13
And then hopefully a week later they'll start construction. 00:33:16
And then hopefully the project will closeout. 00:33:18
Weather permitting. 00:33:21
By the end of February or. 00:33:23
Early March. 00:33:25
So here the Staffs recommendation today is to award a construction contract to SoCal Pacific Construction Court. 00:33:29
Doing the business as National Coating and Lining Company, Inc. 00:33:36
For the 600,000 gallon reservoir rehabilitation project. 00:33:39
In the amount of $575,335. 00:33:43
And then to authorize a 10% construction contingency in the amount of 57,000. 00:33:48
$335. 00:33:53
And then also three authorize our executive director to execute all. 00:33:55
Applicable document. 00:33:59
So with that. 00:34:02
If there's any questions, any questions? Yes. 00:34:04
Pamper Lopez. 00:34:06
What was the initial? 00:34:09
Budgeted, uh. 00:34:11
Dollar amount that. 00:34:12
That going into this that we. 00:34:13
Thought this was going to cost. 00:34:16
About 689,000. 00:34:18
Is what our engineering estimate was. 00:34:21
And so we. 00:34:24
We forecasted this into the budget. 00:34:25
Yes. 00:34:27
OK, yes. 00:34:28
The money is in the budget. It was approved in June. 00:34:29
And the monies in the account. 00:34:32
So I I know we consented to this on #4 and I was looking at the proposal. 00:34:34
And it kind of ties into this because it's the inspection. 00:34:40
That goes along with the tank. 00:34:44
The tank refurbishment, right? 00:34:48
But there's a huge disparagement between the two bids, like 1 was 51,000 and the other one was like 100. 00:34:51
102,000. 00:34:58
Well, why was there a huge variance? 00:35:01
I don't know if it was because they're coming from out of town, if it was lodging or. 00:35:04
I can't really tell you I I really don't. 00:35:11
But CSI, the company we were going, we selected. 00:35:13
Very well respected. They've done hundreds of tanks. 00:35:18
They've worked with our engineering team. 00:35:22
So again, we feel very comfortable going with CSI. 00:35:25
But why the other bid came in so high? I couldn't. 00:35:28
I can't really answer that question. 00:35:31
Is the. 00:35:34
If I can. 00:35:35
And Dennis team. 00:35:37
Sorry my buttons not working. Dennis and his team are definitely more well versed on these bids, but. 00:35:40
Just from. 00:35:45
Prior experience going out to bid there could be. 00:35:46
A bunch of reasons why. 00:35:49
The variance is so big, which is why we typically go through that process and make sure we get a minimum of three bids because you 00:35:51
can see them. 00:35:54
Range, but it can even just be something like they have another project that month and they don't really want to do the extra 00:35:58
project, so they'll bid high. 00:36:01
And then another company has an opening that month and they'll be a blow. You know, it could just be something like that. So, so, 00:36:05
but we have. 00:36:09
I would say. 00:36:12
Dennis can tell me if I'm wrong, but. 00:36:13
I've noticed on recent bids we are seeing big variations of just one company will be half of what another company's bidding on the 00:36:15
same job and I think. 00:36:20
Even on this. 00:36:24
This particular one, I think there was a bit over $1,000,000. 00:36:25
Right on the construction business. 00:36:29
So, so we were seeing that, but it's just another reason why it's good that we go through the process to get multiple bids. 00:36:31
So what's the? 00:36:38
Once the repair is complete, internal, external what? What are we? How many years are? 00:36:40
Were you anticipating? 00:36:44
So the last tank rehab was done in 2013. 00:36:46
So I would say 10 to 12 years. 00:36:49
I would hope to get, I would like to get 12 years. 00:36:52
I think that's kind of average. 00:36:55
What was the repair? 00:36:57
1012 years ago, was it as extensive as it is? 00:36:59
Now it was. 00:37:02
It was and there were some issues with the. 00:37:04
Adhesion. 00:37:07
So that project was delayed and. 00:37:08
At the time I don't know if there was an inspector on site. 00:37:11
But there was some issues. 00:37:14
And that's kind of more reason to. 00:37:16
My staff wants to have an inspector on site. It's it's normal business to have an inspector but. 00:37:18
I know back in 2013 there were some adhesive issues with the with the project. 00:37:24
So knowing that we. 00:37:30
We are. 00:37:31
Going to do maintenance on our tank. 00:37:33
And so we're going to be. 00:37:35
We're going to just be pumping. 00:37:37
Water now since we don't have a storage tank, right? 00:37:39
Correct. 00:37:42
So. 00:37:43
Go ahead. 00:37:44
So. 00:37:46
The difference between the storage tank and now we're going to actually have to use our pumps. 00:37:47
To pump. 00:37:52
On demand, right? 00:37:53
Is that no, no. So all the water now, so the the treatment plan will be offline completely. 00:37:54
So we'll be receiving water from United. 00:38:00
United Water, it comes down Pleasant Valley Rd. 00:38:03
We have a connection right before you go into the naval base there. 00:38:05
So if we when we shut the treatment plant off, we turn off Cayegas? 00:38:08
It will open up automatically. 00:38:12
And feed, feed the city, the beach district and the Navy, just like normal operations. 00:38:14
So I've met with the United, they're aware of it, they're coming out in a couple of weeks to meet with us again. 00:38:19
And, umm. 00:38:25
But we've been on bypass before. We were on it a few weeks back, just for a few days. 00:38:26
We just have that valve, that clay valve. 00:38:31
Which controls the flow during this time. 00:38:33
Just had it serviced so we're ready to go. 00:38:36
And staff's recommendation was to go on United 100%. 00:38:40
If we were to go on Caius, you'd be a lot more costly. 00:38:45
For this three month duration. 00:38:48
Are you we anticipating like a pressure differential? 00:38:49
No. 00:38:52
Same pressure, OK. 00:38:53
Cool, so. 00:38:55
Couple years ago when Mark Watkins was your Public Works director. 00:38:57
He invited members of the council to go on a tour. Dennis, I think you were part of that. 00:39:02
Also and showed us walked us through the water plant and. 00:39:07
If you. 00:39:11
Have an interest? You might want to ask for Tory. It really helps and. 00:39:12
Better understand. 00:39:16
The workings inner workings of the water and. 00:39:17
And the tank and everything else so. 00:39:20
And I had some of the same questions, but we. 00:39:23
We approved that item, so I decided. 00:39:25
To move on. 00:39:27
Yeah, I. 00:39:29
I questioned the disparity too. 00:39:30
I guess that happens. 00:39:33
OK. Any other questions or comments? 00:39:34
All right. I just, I wanted to thank you for putting together two really good staff reports and including the scope of work and. 00:39:39
And in this, the second report that we're talking about right now, very complete and. 00:39:46
Very thorough with. 00:39:51
All the supporting. 00:39:53
Data and reports. So thank you very much for the. 00:39:54
With a good job. Thank you. 00:39:58
All right. 00:39:59
OK, so we have a recommendation to award the construction contract to SoCal Pacific Construction Core DBA National Coding and 00:40:02
Lighting Company Incorporated. 00:40:07
For the Point 6,000,000 gallon reservoir rehabilitation project. 00:40:12
#WA25-707 in the amount of 700. 00:40:17
575,335 and authorized a 10% construction contingency in the amount of 57. 00:40:22
1335 and authorized the executive director to execute all applicable. 00:40:30
Documents may I have a motion and a second? 00:40:35
So move to approve. 00:40:39
I'll 2nd, 2nd. 00:40:42
Any discussion? Any further discussion on? 00:40:44
OK. 00:40:49
Madam Clerk, please conduct A roll call, please. 00:40:50
OK, roll call vote. 00:40:55
Member LA Boat. 00:40:56
Yes. 00:40:57
Member Lopez. 00:40:58
Yes, Member McQueen Lejeune. 00:40:59
Vice Chair Thomas. 00:41:01
And Chair Hernandez motion passes unanimously. 00:41:03
Great. Thank you. 00:41:06
Thank you. Thank you, staff. 00:41:07
Agency members reports comments and requests for future agenda items. 00:41:10
I'd like to remind agency members that all requested items will require a motion, a second and a majority vote to be placed on a 00:41:14
future agenda. 00:41:18
Does anyone have any reports, comments, or requests for future agenda items? 00:41:22
I have a question we're going to be discussing. 00:41:28
Requests for future agenda items in the City Council. Do we have any plans to change the procedure? 00:41:31
For this body. 00:41:36
If the Council approves the change of the procedure, we can discuss at the next meeting whether the this Board would want to adopt 00:41:38
the same procedure. OK. 00:41:42
We were going to, we were going to start with the council tonight. 00:41:47
Sounds good. Thank you. 00:41:50
All right, the next regular meeting is scheduled for Monday, November 17th. 00:41:51
2025 at 4:00 PM. I'd like to adjourn the meeting. The time is now 441. 00:41:56