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| A regular meeting. I'm calling this meeting to order. The time is now for PM. | 00:00:47 | |
| Madam Clerk, may we have a roll call, please, Member Leau. | 00:00:52 | |
| Present member Lopez. | 00:00:56 | |
| Present Member. McQueen, Legend. | 00:00:58 | |
| That's it, Vice Chair Thomas. | 00:01:00 | |
| And Chair Hernandez here let the record reflect that ex officio member Kendall Wilson is absent. | 00:01:03 | |
| Thank you. | 00:01:08 | |
| We will now hear public comments. Comments are limited to 3 minutes. Madam Clerk, does anyone have a public comment? No public | 00:01:10 | |
| comments. | 00:01:13 | |
| Moving ahead. | 00:01:17 | |
| Agenda approval for water agency May I have a motion and a second to approve the agenda? | 00:01:19 | |
| You've had time to take a look at it. | 00:01:25 | |
| Move to approve. | 00:01:27 | |
| 2nd. | 00:01:28 | |
| OK, all in favor. | 00:01:30 | |
| Aye. | 00:01:32 | |
| All opposed. | 00:01:33 | |
| Hearing none, motion passes unanimously. | 00:01:34 | |
| All right, conflict of interest in Levine Act disclosures do any members of agency. | 00:01:36 | |
| Have any conflicts of interest to disclose for the listed closed session items on the agenda? Sorry I've meant to remove that but | 00:01:41 | |
| it's just for items on the agenda. | 00:01:45 | |
| OK. | 00:01:49 | |
| Oh, yeah, you're right. OK, Just for items on the agenda, does anybody have a conflict of interest? | 00:01:53 | |
| To disclose. OK, very good. | 00:01:58 | |
| Hearing none, we'll move on to presentations. | 00:02:00 | |
| Come on up. | 00:02:03 | |
| Nicole Richardson and Charlotte Lopez Holyfield will be delivering a presentation on the Delta Conveyance Project. | 00:02:04 | |
| And they representing the the Metropolitan Water District of Southern California and the Cayegas Municipal Water. | 00:02:11 | |
| District. | 00:02:17 | |
| Welcome. | 00:02:19 | |
| Thank you. Thank you, Chair Hernandez and members, thank you so much for allowing us to the opportunity to come speak before you | 00:02:19 | |
| today. We really appreciate it. | 00:02:23 | |
| As chair, Hernandez says. | 00:02:27 | |
| I'm Charlotte Lopez Hollow Field. I'm the manager of external affairs at Cayegas Municipal Water District. | 00:02:28 | |
| Presenting with me today is Nicole Richardson of Metropolitan Water District A, Southern California. | 00:02:34 | |
| And we're happy to talk with you for a few moments about the Delta Conveyance project, which has had a long. | 00:02:38 | |
| History A winding history in California will give you an overview of the status of it currently, some efforts to move it forward, | 00:02:44 | |
| and its criticalness to the water supply in Ventura County. | 00:02:50 | |
| So I just want to take a moment as a refresher to remind. | 00:02:57 | |
| Folks, what Cayegas is we are Ventura County's largest water supplier. | 00:03:00 | |
| We are a water wholesaler importing primarily State Water Project water from Metropolitan. We have 19 purveyors serving 3/4 of the | 00:03:04 | |
| population of Ventura County, so that's 650,000 people. | 00:03:10 | |
| And we are an independent special district governed by A5 member elected board and we've been around just about 75 years. | 00:03:17 | |
| So you can see our service area there, primarily southeastern Ventura County, of course. | 00:03:24 | |
| You are some. | 00:03:28 | |
| An entity we deliver water to as well. | 00:03:30 | |
| So just a snapshot of our purveyors. They include cities such as Port Windy, Camarillo, Oxnard. | 00:03:32 | |
| County Water Works, special districts, investor owned utilities. | 00:03:38 | |
| Mutual water companies we have a wide variety of public. | 00:03:42 | |
| Private, large, small, you name it, it's probably a purveyor of caiages. | 00:03:46 | |
| So the path of imported water to Cayegas is really important to understand why the DCP is so important. | 00:03:51 | |
| It comes from 400 miles away. | 00:03:58 | |
| In the Sierra Nevada. | 00:04:00 | |
| And it comes down to us through the State Water Project, which is a series of pumps, pipes, aqueducts. If you've driven in the | 00:04:03 | |
| Central Valley, you've probably seen it. | 00:04:06 | |
| That gets down to Metropolitan Water District. | 00:04:11 | |
| Which then delivers it to their 26 member agencies, of which Cayegis is 1. | 00:04:14 | |
| We import that water through a mile long tunnel in Chatsworth. | 00:04:20 | |
| And then we distribute it out to our purveyors. | 00:04:23 | |
| So and then they in turn. | 00:04:27 | |
| Send it to residents and businesses. We don't serve them directly. | 00:04:28 | |
| So the State Water Project was built in the 1960s. | 00:04:33 | |
| As I said. | 00:04:37 | |
| Our share of it is 400 miles away. | 00:04:38 | |
| The total length of the project is 700 miles. | 00:04:42 | |
| And it serves 2/3. | 00:04:46 | |
| Of the state, so 27 million people in California. | 00:04:48 | |
| Are dependent on the State Water project in whole or in part? | 00:04:52 | |
| And This is why it's so important that it be modernized. | 00:04:56 | |
| And optimized. | 00:05:00 | |
| For Cayegas service area. | 00:05:01 | |
| You know, in the 60s it needs a little refresh. Let's say the Delta Conveyance project is a way to do that and really optimize | 00:05:04 | |
| this system so that we can. | 00:05:08 | |
| Take full advantage of that conveyance system to bring. | 00:05:13 | |
| Water to our area. | 00:05:16 | |
| Because the percentage of water that originates from. | 00:05:19 | |
| The State Water Project. | 00:05:22 | |
| Is 100%. | 00:05:24 | |
| 100%. | 00:05:26 | |
| So Nicole will talk more about. | 00:05:27 | |
| Metropolitan sources being both the State Water Project and the Colorado River, but here in Cayegas service area. | 00:05:29 | |
| It's 100% of our supply. | 00:05:35 | |
| So with that. | 00:05:37 | |
| I am going to turn it over to Nicole to give you more detail about the project and happy to answer any questions at the end. | 00:05:38 | |
| Thank you. | 00:05:44 | |
| Thank you, Charlotte. Good afternoon, Chair Hernandez and directors. | 00:05:47 | |
| I would now like to present a high level overview of the modernization project known as the Delta Conveyance Project. | 00:05:51 | |
| I'll go over its benefits to Metropolitan and our involvement in the project. And before diving into those details, I'll go into | 00:05:56 | |
| more detail about who Metropolitan is. | 00:06:01 | |
| OK, so Metropolitan Water District, Southern California is a state established. | 00:06:10 | |
| Cooperative. | 00:06:14 | |
| That provides water to its 26 member agencies throughout our six county service area, which includes Ventura County all the way | 00:06:15 | |
| down to San Diego County, includes Orange County, San Bernardino, LA and Riverside County. | 00:06:21 | |
| And then each member agency is represented on our 38 member Board of Directors. | 00:06:27 | |
| Cayegas is one of our member agencies and Director Jackie McMillan is one of our directors who represents Cayegas. | 00:06:32 | |
| We import water from two sources, so Colorado River via the Colorado River Aqueduct system, which we own and operate. | 00:06:39 | |
| And then the. | 00:06:46 | |
| And from Northern California, the N Sierra Nevada area. | 00:06:48 | |
| Through the State Water Project with it, which is operated by the California Department of Water Resources. | 00:06:52 | |
| And Metropolitan is the largest state water contractor of the State Water Project. We are one of 27 public water agencies that | 00:06:57 | |
| take from this source. | 00:07:02 | |
| Metropolitan does have a state water contract for 1.9 million acre feet. | 00:07:06 | |
| 1.9 million acre feet annually. | 00:07:13 | |
| However, based on the allocation of that year, State Water Project allocation, we only get a percentage of it. So this year or at | 00:07:15 | |
| this point we have 30. | 00:07:19 | |
| 5%, that's the allocation. So we have 35% of 1.9 million acre feet. | 00:07:23 | |
| And that will change and fluctuate based on precipitation levels, regulations, whatever drought conditions, things like that. | 00:07:28 | |
| And so together these two imported sources. | 00:07:36 | |
| Support a $1.6 trillion regional economy. | 00:07:38 | |
| And then the Delta Conveyance project. | 00:07:44 | |
| Often referred to as the DCPA will. | 00:07:46 | |
| Probably refer to it moving forward is a proposed state project that seeks to modernize the aging delta infrastructure. | 00:07:49 | |
| So it modernizes, it will modernize the State Water Project. | 00:07:55 | |
| The project involves the construction of a new 45 mile tunnel system and two completely new northern delta. | 00:07:59 | |
| Intake facilities, so they're diversion projects that take water from the river. | 00:08:06 | |
| And then into the tunnel, the conveyance, the conveyance system. | 00:08:10 | |
| The tunnel would divert water from. | 00:08:14 | |
| Around the delta, so to avoid the central delta communities. | 00:08:16 | |
| And then it would. | 00:08:19 | |
| Be it would go into the State Water Project conveyance system. | 00:08:21 | |
| And if operational, the project will be able to capture and move water during really heavy storm events. | 00:08:24 | |
| Or snow, snow melt runoff and then deliver it to reservoirs and groundwater basins throughout the state. | 00:08:30 | |
| And the purpose of the DCP is to strengthen the long term water supply reliability of the State Water Project. | 00:08:35 | |
| And protect the supply from extreme weather conditions, so that includes sites like seismic risks. | 00:08:41 | |
| Earthquakes, sea level rise. | 00:08:46 | |
| Atmosphere rivers which are very heavy storm events too. | 00:08:48 | |
| So after more than 20 years of planning the Delta conveyance. | 00:08:55 | |
| Project has been refined and redesigned. | 00:08:59 | |
| DWR has welcomed and encouraged extensive community input. | 00:09:03 | |
| Which has helped them address local impacts and environmental concerns. | 00:09:07 | |
| DWR has also produced. | 00:09:11 | |
| Hundreds of studies. Technical reports. Engineer Engineering reports. Modeling Analysis. | 00:09:14 | |
| And the list goes on. And because of all of these data, the qualitative quantitative data. | 00:09:19 | |
| We are able to summarize the benefits of the project into these 4 categories. | 00:09:24 | |
| Climate resiliency, seismic resiliency, operational resiliency, and water. | 00:09:29 | |
| Water quality reliability. | 00:09:33 | |
| So to begin with the first one, future precipitation patterns are expected to result in more rain flowing through rivers. As we've | 00:09:35 | |
| seen, modeling has predicted that we're going to see shorter winters. | 00:09:41 | |
| And there's going to be less snowpack runoff and we're going to see more precipitation in the form of atmospheric rivers, which is | 00:09:48 | |
| the heavy storm events. | 00:09:52 | |
| And so because of that, our State Water Project conveyance system has to adapt to the changing climate. | 00:09:56 | |
| And this is what the DCP will do. | 00:10:02 | |
| The DCP will enhance the system's ability to capture, move and store water during extreme weather events. | 00:10:04 | |
| And this increased flexibility helps mitigate the effects of climate induced variability in precipitation and runoff patterns. | 00:10:11 | |
| Ensuring a more reliable water supply. | 00:10:17 | |
| Not only for Southern California. | 00:10:20 | |
| For Ventura County, but also throughout the state. | 00:10:22 | |
| And then the seismic resiliency. | 00:10:25 | |
| So the project's design includes. | 00:10:28 | |
| Well, the design includes features to improve the State water projects, resilience to seismic events, earthquakes. | 00:10:30 | |
| And then according to the US Geological Survey. | 00:10:37 | |
| There a 70 There's a 72% chance of a 6.7 or greater magnitude earthquake in the B. | 00:10:39 | |
| In the Bay Area by 2043 and if there is a catastrophic event. | 00:10:46 | |
| Near or around the Delta, it would pose significant threat to our water supply down here in Southern California. | 00:10:50 | |
| And as Charlotte had mentioned, we rely in Southern California metropolitan gets 30% of the water from state water projects. So | 00:10:58 | |
| this is very significant for our region. | 00:11:02 | |
| By adding the two new intake facilities in the North Delta. | 00:11:08 | |
| And constructing an earthquake resistant tunnel, the DCP will reduce the vulnerability of water deliveries being. | 00:11:12 | |
| Disrupted by earthquakes? | 00:11:18 | |
| The project ensures there is continued water supply in the event of a seismic event near the delta. | 00:11:19 | |
| And then operational resiliency. | 00:11:25 | |
| So State Water project deliveries have declined even during wet years and. | 00:11:27 | |
| Due to various. | 00:11:31 | |
| Various fish regulations, as we've seen during the last row in 2023, for example, we had a really. | 00:11:32 | |
| A lot of storm events. It was a really wet year, but we only received. | 00:11:37 | |
| 50 to 70% of our allocation and. | 00:11:41 | |
| There were some disruptions in being able to deliver the water to Southern California and so by, you know, constructing the Delta | 00:11:45 | |
| Conveyance project, we will introduce more operational flexibility enabling water managers to divert water from. | 00:11:53 | |
| The Sacramento River, so from the northern delta. | 00:12:01 | |
| Down. | 00:12:04 | |
| Around the delta into the State Water project. | 00:12:05 | |
| So. | 00:12:08 | |
| You know, there'd be a better management on water flows, reducing conflicts with the fishery regulations in the South Delta. | 00:12:09 | |
| Which will optimize our water deliveries during varying hydrological conditions. | 00:12:15 | |
| And then lastly, I wanted to emphasize the importance of the water quality reliability if the DCP is constructed. | 00:12:21 | |
| So it would improve the timing and location of water diversions. The DCP. | 00:12:28 | |
| Project helps maintain water quality standards. | 00:12:32 | |
| In the State Water Project. | 00:12:35 | |
| The project minimizes the risk of water quality degradation due to factors like salinity intrusion and algae blooms. | 00:12:36 | |
| Ensuring that the water delivered to urban and agricultural users meets health and safety standards and. | 00:12:42 | |
| Also, if there was a disruption in the levees because they are aging. | 00:12:48 | |
| We because of the north intakes, it would help divert water from the Sacramento River and then it would go underground into the | 00:12:52 | |
| State water project. So if there is an issue with the levees, which is. | 00:12:57 | |
| Which would affect see the fresh water in the delta. | 00:13:02 | |
| And create more seawater intrusion. | 00:13:06 | |
| You know, we would be able to, the DCP would be able to avoid a disruption in delivering water supplies to communities that need | 00:13:08 | |
| it or who rely heavily on the state Water Project. | 00:13:13 | |
| And this is just a visual just to demonstrate what exactly what happened to the delta if there was a major earthquake in the delta | 00:13:21 | |
| or near the delta. | 00:13:26 | |
| The blue signifies the freshwater and the red signifies salt water from the Bay. And so if there is a disruption, a major | 00:13:32 | |
| earthquake like I had mentioned that the US Geological Survey had predicted. | 00:13:37 | |
| Within 36 hours or within. | 00:13:43 | |
| Well, three or six hours, yes, there would be the whole delta would be inundated with seawater, which would affect our. | 00:13:46 | |
| Deliveries to Southern California. | 00:13:53 | |
| The data bar is definitely raised to Southern California. | 00:13:55 | |
| OK. And this is just to show like theoretical diversions if the DCP was constructed last year? | 00:14:01 | |
| And if it was operational last year? | 00:14:09 | |
| We would have been able to, or DWR would have been able to store and move 956,000 acre feet of water between October 2024. | 00:14:11 | |
| And June of this year. | 00:14:19 | |
| And so this is enough. | 00:14:21 | |
| Supply. | 00:14:22 | |
| To this is enough water to supply over 10 million people or over 3,000,000 households for one year. | 00:14:24 | |
| And then as we experienced during the most recent drought, State Water Project supplies our impact. | 00:14:32 | |
| Impacted by extreme dry conditions, as we saw during the last drought. | 00:14:36 | |
| And so as California faces more rain, less snow and longer droughts, the this capability to store water for future dry years will | 00:14:41 | |
| become more crucial. | 00:14:44 | |
| And this is the reason why the State Water Project adaptation strategy identifies the Delta Conveyance project as the single most | 00:14:49 | |
| effective action. | 00:14:53 | |
| For a sustainable water future. | 00:14:57 | |
| And it reaffirms that the Delta Conveyance Project is a key adaptation trash. | 00:14:59 | |
| Key adaptation strategy to address climate driven challenges to California's water supply. | 00:15:03 | |
| OK. And so? | 00:15:11 | |
| Although the aging system faces serious challenges. | 00:15:14 | |
| There is a projection that 13 to 22%. | 00:15:17 | |
| There will be a 13 to 22% supply loss over the next two decades. | 00:15:21 | |
| Due to different risks, so whether it's extreme dry conditions, climate, drought and major earthquakes. | 00:15:25 | |
| And then I want to go into a little more details. | 00:15:36 | |
| Terms of how Metropolitan is evolved, so today the project. | 00:15:38 | |
| Is very different from the many iterations that we've seen. | 00:15:42 | |
| The previous project concepts to the state's credit, they have been very deliberate and thoughtful in engaging the public. | 00:15:45 | |
| They made a concerted effort to engage the tribal communities, opponents to the project, or people who are concerned with the | 00:15:52 | |
| project early on into these conversations. | 00:15:57 | |
| It's been. | 00:16:02 | |
| The very first iteration was like over 20 years ago. And so it's it's gone through many different forms and it's been refined and | 00:16:03 | |
| redesigned. | 00:16:07 | |
| The project at this point has already undergone the sequel process and it was certified in 2023. At this point in the timeline | 00:16:12 | |
| there's two things that it's going through the pre construction permitting phase. So first DWR has to seek water rights permit so. | 00:16:21 | |
| Through the State Water Resource Control Board. So right now they're undergoing. | 00:16:29 | |
| Public hearings. | 00:16:33 | |
| For their water rights permit. | 00:16:34 | |
| And then the second form of this or second part that they have to complete is a certification for consistency. | 00:16:35 | |
| They have to submit that certification for consistency to the Delta Stewardship Council. | 00:16:42 | |
| And they actually did that on Friday. And So what this essentially is, is it's just to determine whether the project, these DCP is | 00:16:48 | |
| consistent with the Delta plan and the Delta plan is a strategy to meet the Co equal goals. | 00:16:54 | |
| So they have to complete DWRS to complete two of those before any talks of concert construction are taking place. | 00:17:02 | |
| So they've already submitted. | 00:17:11 | |
| The uh. | 00:17:12 | |
| The certification for. | 00:17:13 | |
| Consistency on Friday. | 00:17:16 | |
| And then they're undergoing the public hearings once all that is complete. | 00:17:17 | |
| Metropolitan will. | 00:17:21 | |
| They'll come back to all the state. | 00:17:23 | |
| DWR come back to all the state water contractors, including. | 00:17:24 | |
| Metropolitan and. | 00:17:27 | |
| Ask for an investment on whether we would like to invest in the. | 00:17:29 | |
| The construction of the project. | 00:17:32 | |
| We won't do that until 2027 when all the permitting, all the studies, technical studies have been completed. | 00:17:34 | |
| But so far, we are supporting this phase of the project. We've already invested $300 million since. | 00:17:41 | |
| 2020 So in 2020 we gave. | 00:17:48 | |
| Half of that and then 2024. The board also voted to support the remaining part to. | 00:17:50 | |
| Fulfill. | 00:17:56 | |
| The environmental review. The design, the planning and permitting of the Delta Conveyance Project. | 00:17:57 | |
| So that will be ongoing until 2027 and then it'll come up for the board for a vote. | 00:18:01 | |
| On whether they would like to participate in the investing in the construction of the project. | 00:18:07 | |
| And that's where we are right now. It's still going forward, it's still progressing. | 00:18:12 | |
| And we are just monitoring the progress on the state level. | 00:18:17 | |
| And we welcome any that that concludes my portion of the presentation and Charlotte and I are. | 00:18:23 | |
| Are welcome any questions that you may have. | 00:18:27 | |
| OK. Thank you, Mr. Richardson, and thank you. | 00:18:29 | |
| Miss Lopez Holyfield for your presentation. Does the Board have any questions? | 00:18:32 | |
| Or comments, It's just a presentation, so we can do both. Hi, just have a couple of questions. Thank you. | 00:18:37 | |
| Chair can. | 00:18:43 | |
| You go back. | 00:18:44 | |
| Couple of slides you you. | 00:18:45 | |
| Had some numbers, some percentage numbers of the. | 00:18:47 | |
| Water loss in the years. | 00:18:50 | |
| And I thought it was like 11 something to 2213 to 22, something like that. | 00:18:53 | |
| Sorry about that. Yeah, that's OK. 13 to 22. | 00:19:00 | |
| 1322% OK, so. | 00:19:02 | |
| Is that of as of today or 2027 and. | 00:19:05 | |
| And if not? | 00:19:09 | |
| How does that number change as we? | 00:19:10 | |
| Approach, uh. | 00:19:12 | |
| So they're project, so DWR released this type of study that if this we don't modernize the state water project. | 00:19:13 | |
| We could essentially see a 13 to 22% water supply loss and that's due to the different environmental factors, so earthquakes due | 00:19:20 | |
| to certain things I. | 00:19:26 | |
| I'm trying to think what else? | 00:19:34 | |
| The lack of precipitation, the fish regulations which are impeding the DWS ability to import water, deliver water to areas that | 00:19:36 | |
| need it the most, so. | 00:19:41 | |
| The system is aging. It was built in the 1960s, and when they built it, they didn't factor in all the different climate impacts | 00:19:46 | |
| that would impact the the existing infrastructure. | 00:19:52 | |
| So. | 00:19:57 | |
| This is what they project for the next 20 years. There will be a loss. If there was a major earthquake, we would it would disrupt | 00:19:58 | |
| the system. | 00:20:02 | |
| But if? | 00:20:06 | |
| This was created for example. | 00:20:06 | |
| We would be able to capture and move water more efficiently. | 00:20:10 | |
| And I hope that answers. Yeah, it does. One more question just for my own information. So you talked about the impacts if there | 00:20:13 | |
| were an earthquake to the delta and the saltwater water intrusion. | 00:20:19 | |
| Is there saltwater intrusion now? | 00:20:25 | |
| You know, it's a good question. I think not to the. | 00:20:29 | |
| No, there I mean I think. | 00:20:32 | |
| I'm not a technical expert with that, but not to the point where it's going to affect our treatment processes or anything like | 00:20:33 | |
| that. | 00:20:37 | |
| It's fresh water, so our treatment facilities are designed to treat fresh state water Project water. | 00:20:40 | |
| If there was. | 00:20:46 | |
| Sea water intrusion. Then we would completely have to change how we treat our the existing supply. | 00:20:48 | |
| If there was a levee failure. | 00:20:55 | |
| What I've heard from engineers that it could potentially. | 00:20:58 | |
| It we would probably it would be months or possibly years of not having this type, this supply come. | 00:21:03 | |
| And be delivered to us. | 00:21:09 | |
| So. | 00:21:11 | |
| They're constantly doing maintenance. I know DWR is constantly maintaining the levees, but this is not. | 00:21:12 | |
| This is. | 00:21:17 | |
| Like we're not able to capture if there was an actual if there was. | 00:21:19 | |
| An actual earthquake it would. It could potentially take months or years for it for us to get the system up and running. | 00:21:23 | |
| But because we have, if we have the north intakes, it would avoid that situation. We would get it from the very top of the river | 00:21:28 | |
| and then be able to funnel the water underground, underground. | 00:21:33 | |
| And away from the delta and into the state water, the existing State Water Project conveyance system. | 00:21:38 | |
| I hope that answered a little bit. It does. And I, I want you to just attribute that question to me being able to go on your tour | 00:21:44 | |
| to the Delta and you know. | 00:21:50 | |
| Of North. So thank you so much for that. | 00:21:56 | |
| Any more questions? I have a question, it said Earthquake resilient. | 00:22:00 | |
| Umm, it seems like. | 00:22:03 | |
| That particular area. | 00:22:07 | |
| In in California is. | 00:22:09 | |
| It has a high frequency of earthquakes and that specific. | 00:22:11 | |
| Area. | 00:22:16 | |
| So how is the earthquake resilient if? | 00:22:17 | |
| If you know that that. | 00:22:19 | |
| Has a you know it's near a major fault. | 00:22:21 | |
| I think the materials they use are earthquake. The actual tunnel that they're creating is the 40. The the Delta Conveyance project | 00:22:26 | |
| is an actual 45 mile tunnel. | 00:22:31 | |
| And so it's an addition to the existing state water project, so. | 00:22:35 | |
| That their materials they're using. | 00:22:40 | |
| Our earthquake resilient and they're also they've done hundreds and hundreds of technical studies they. | 00:22:42 | |
| Completed SQL process and everything and so. | 00:22:48 | |
| They've the engineers. | 00:22:50 | |
| Much smarter than I am that could better explain all of this, but. | 00:22:52 | |
| Determined. | 00:22:56 | |
| That you know, it would be resilient. | 00:22:57 | |
| In the face of a major earthquake. | 00:23:00 | |
| Based off. | 00:23:02 | |
| You know, the studies that they've made and. | 00:23:03 | |
| I think how they've done it for the. | 00:23:05 | |
| They've had different alternatives when they did the sequel process. | 00:23:06 | |
| Or the environmental review process and they found the Bethany alignment, which is where the tunnel is located. | 00:23:10 | |
| Is the best outcome for the project. So they did they looked at all these different alignments and the Bethany alignment was the | 00:23:16 | |
| best one in terms of like the fault lines and all of that. They took all of that into consideration. So that was part of the | 00:23:21 | |
| sequel process making sure that. | 00:23:26 | |
| They're complying with. | 00:23:31 | |
| You know the. | 00:23:33 | |
| The environment. The surrounding environment. | 00:23:35 | |
| So yeah. | 00:23:37 | |
| I could also follow up with more specific what's the total cost of the project? | 00:23:38 | |
| It'd be upward to like $20.1 billion. | 00:23:42 | |
| Metropolitan's portion is 47% of that, so it would be about a little bit over $10 billion. | 00:23:47 | |
| And it would be a phased approach how we would. | 00:23:54 | |
| The finance department is working out the numbers if the if the board decides to move forward with the project. | 00:23:57 | |
| On how we. | 00:24:02 | |
| How we'll finance it. | 00:24:03 | |
| So just for clarity, Ventura County. | 00:24:04 | |
| Receives its water from the state. | 00:24:08 | |
| Yes. So we have member agents. | 00:24:13 | |
| CAIUS, Miss. Smaller district, is one of our member agencies, so. | 00:24:15 | |
| We are state water contractor. We. | 00:24:18 | |
| Have a certain portion of have a certain allocation. | 00:24:21 | |
| And then we give it to our member agencies. So we deliver it to our member agencies. One of them is, you know, Callegas. | 00:24:24 | |
| And then Cayegas delivers it to your. | 00:24:29 | |
| Their water retailers and then. | 00:24:32 | |
| Then it goes to their customers but. | 00:24:34 | |
| But but yes, Member Lopez, our, our water supply is state water project dependent, 100% at Cayegas. | 00:24:36 | |
| But then that comes from the. | 00:24:45 | |
| Correct. | 00:24:47 | |
| OK. So very little comes up from North? | 00:24:47 | |
| Very little comes from Colorado River. Colorado River. | 00:24:50 | |
| OK, got it. | 00:24:52 | |
| Any more questions? | 00:24:54 | |
| I just had one question. Besides Metropolitan, who else would? | 00:24:56 | |
| Be involved in making the decision about moving forward. | 00:24:59 | |
| Yeah, so it would be the 26 other public water agencies which are considered state water contractors who take from the. | 00:25:02 | |
| The State Water Project. | 00:25:09 | |
| So it'd be. | 00:25:10 | |
| It would be Santa Clarita Valley Water District. It'd be San Gabriel Valley Municipal Water District. There's a number of them. | 00:25:12 | |
| Santa Clara. | 00:25:15 | |
| Water district, there's a number. I don't have all the list in front of me, but. | 00:25:19 | |
| There's 26 others and they all have different portions. So we have the greatest portion, but some have like 5% or 10% because they | 00:25:22 | |
| have alternative water supply. | 00:25:28 | |
| Sources. | 00:25:33 | |
| Does everybody have to agree for it to move forward or just enough? | 00:25:34 | |
| To provide the funding to move forward. | 00:25:38 | |
| I think that. | 00:25:40 | |
| Ah, Yathu Berry. Good question. | 00:25:41 | |
| Like for example. | 00:25:44 | |
| If during the pre construction phase. | 00:25:45 | |
| DWR went to every single state water contractor to ask. | 00:25:48 | |
| To seek approval to invest in this phase because DWR doesn't have the funds to. | 00:25:52 | |
| Support the studies the pre construction phase so they had to go. So it has to be funded by the state water contractors. | 00:25:58 | |
| To my understanding, it has to be all of them. | 00:26:04 | |
| Um, but I. | 00:26:09 | |
| But if one doesn't come through, I don't think that the project is going to be. | 00:26:11 | |
| Unable to move forward. So I think it depends how it's all divvied up. | 00:26:16 | |
| The. | 00:26:20 | |
| The financing. | 00:26:21 | |
| More questions. | 00:26:25 | |
| Have there been any studies on? | 00:26:26 | |
| What the estimated impacts this will be on the Caius like water rates or anything like that? | 00:26:28 | |
| That's a good question, member Libo. | 00:26:35 | |
| That. | 00:26:38 | |
| As Nicole said. | 00:26:39 | |
| The financial analysis is ongoing, so there are no specifics quite yet. | 00:26:40 | |
| And the project has. | 00:26:45 | |
| Changed over the years quite significantly. So we want to be certain that this is, you know, the final iteration and before we can | 00:26:47 | |
| actually accurately predict impact on rates. So I'm I'm just going to say it's a work in progress. | 00:26:53 | |
| And then what are the like? | 00:27:00 | |
| Biggest. | 00:27:02 | |
| Impediments, I guess to this project going forward in 2027. | 00:27:03 | |
| Yeah, it's a good question. | 00:27:08 | |
| Talk about the political ones a little bit. | 00:27:10 | |
| Yeah, there are some opposition. | 00:27:13 | |
| And so there's some opposition. | 00:27:14 | |
| The Delta communities are opposed to this project. | 00:27:16 | |
| For various reasons. | 00:27:21 | |
| I guess to name a few is like there might be water quality issues with the water quality in the delta construction because the | 00:27:23 | |
| construction is going to be a long, it's going to be very long. | 00:27:28 | |
| So there's going to be noise, air quality issues that. | 00:27:33 | |
| You know. | 00:27:39 | |
| They brought up. | 00:27:40 | |
| Also the tribal concerns, I know protecting tribal resources when construction is actually taking place and making sure that they | 00:27:42 | |
| are protected when you know they do encounter. | 00:27:47 | |
| An artifact of some sort. | 00:27:54 | |
| DWR has addressed all of these concerns in the various. | 00:27:56 | |
| Reports and studies and things like that, specifically with the tribal concerns. | 00:28:02 | |
| They had meant they've worked with the tribal community they've given them and see at the table. | 00:28:07 | |
| And they've. | 00:28:11 | |
| In they've taken their concerns and they've also said they were going to have a try. It's a tribal community representative. So | 00:28:13 | |
| when construction is happening. | 00:28:17 | |
| They will be able to like. | 00:28:22 | |
| Reach out to the tribal representative to like help them with the process and protecting those artifacts. | 00:28:24 | |
| From my understanding with DWR. | 00:28:30 | |
| And then in terms of water quality and? | 00:28:32 | |
| With noise, air pollution. | 00:28:36 | |
| I mean, there's going to be that with construction. | 00:28:38 | |
| But. | 00:28:41 | |
| This was this this this specific alignment had the least environmental impact. | 00:28:42 | |
| To the community. | 00:28:47 | |
| Additionally, they're also investing $200 million in a community benefits program because they understand the water the specific | 00:28:49 | |
| projects are going to directly benefit, like provide a water supply for those communities. | 00:28:55 | |
| So they are investing back into the community by allowing them to apply for these grant programs. It could be anything. It could | 00:29:01 | |
| be water, it could be it could be electrical, it could be any type of project really. | 00:29:07 | |
| They would apply for it and you could receive a grant funding for your project, for a local project. So they're trying ways to | 00:29:13 | |
| involve the community. They've they've welcomed a lot of feedback from them and incorporated that. That's why they've redesigned | 00:29:18 | |
| the project so many times because they want to make sure that they're incorporated into it. | 00:29:24 | |
| But yeah, I think with other concerns happening. | 00:29:30 | |
| In the future. | 00:29:34 | |
| I think litigation, there's going to be a lot of litigation, like they're undergoing their public hearings and there's a lot of | 00:29:35 | |
| comments in opposed to the project. | 00:29:39 | |
| Yeah. | 00:29:45 | |
| That's all I could really say about that. | 00:29:46 | |
| Thank you. | 00:29:49 | |
| Do any of our water reps here have any questions or comments? | 00:29:51 | |
| Based on what we've heard. | 00:29:55 | |
| This afternoon. | 00:29:56 | |
| Amy, OK. | 00:29:57 | |
| You guys have probably. | 00:29:59 | |
| Quite familiar with. | 00:30:00 | |
| Project Anyway. OK, great. | 00:30:01 | |
| Well, thank you very much for your presentation. You know, when I heard you speak at V COG, you had an ask. | 00:30:03 | |
| At the end. | 00:30:08 | |
| So what can we do in the meantime? And we hope we come back and keep us. | 00:30:09 | |
| Praised Of Of. | 00:30:13 | |
| Price of what's going on and. | 00:30:15 | |
| We'd be happy to chair Hernandez, happy to do so. We have no ask of you today, but. | 00:30:17 | |
| We don't. We reserve the right to come back. | 00:30:23 | |
| All right, very good. Well, thank you again. It was great seeing you at Beacon. | 00:30:25 | |
| Wonder Peacock dinner. Yeah. Thank you all for your time. Thank you. Thank you so much for your time. | 00:30:28 | |
| Very interesting. | 00:30:33 | |
| OK, moving along. We are now at the consent. | 00:30:35 | |
| Portion of the agenda will consider the items on the consent calendar, which will be enacted in one motion unless an agency | 00:30:39 | |
| member. | 00:30:42 | |
| Has a request to remove an item for discussion. | 00:30:46 | |
| Any request to remove an item for discussion? | 00:30:50 | |
| If not, may I have a motion and 2nd to approve our consent calendar? I move to approve. | 00:30:54 | |
| I'll second. | 00:31:00 | |
| 2nd Madam Clerk, can we take a vote all in favor? | 00:31:02 | |
| Aye, all opposed. | 00:31:05 | |
| Hearing none, motion passes unanimously. | 00:31:07 | |
| Terrific. OK, we're now at Business items. | 00:31:10 | |
| Item 5 is the award of contract to the social. | 00:31:13 | |
| So Cal Pacific Construction Core. | 00:31:16 | |
| DBA National Coating and Lighting Company. | 00:31:18 | |
| Incorporated for the PHWA. | 00:31:21 | |
| .6 M. | 00:31:24 | |
| Empty reservoir rehabilitation project. | 00:31:26 | |
| Number W82025-07 in the amount of. | 00:31:28 | |
| 575,335. | 00:31:32 | |
| And approve a 10% construction contingency up. | 00:31:36 | |
| 57,500. | 00:31:39 | |
| $33. | 00:31:41 | |
| Will staff please present the report? | 00:31:45 | |
| Good afternoon, Chair Hernandez and PHW board members. | 00:31:48 | |
| So this project is before you is the. | 00:31:51 | |
| Obviously the tank rehab contract award. | 00:31:54 | |
| This project was approved by the board earlier this year in June. | 00:31:57 | |
| During the budget process. | 00:32:01 | |
| Just have a. | 00:32:04 | |
| Few few slides, I just want to give a quick overview. I know the board has heard about this project for months. | 00:32:05 | |
| Again, it's our 6000 gallon tank at the at the treatment plant facility on Perkins Rd. | 00:32:10 | |
| Kind of what sparked this whole project. We did a dive inspection which I shared at a meeting a few months back. | 00:32:17 | |
| They found a lot of corrosion. | 00:32:23 | |
| And just the coding was failing and so this project needs to take place. | 00:32:26 | |
| Staff felt as soon as possible. | 00:32:31 | |
| So quick kind of high level scope of work. | 00:32:35 | |
| So they're going to go in, they're going to sandblast the exterior, interior. | 00:32:37 | |
| Down to bare metal. | 00:32:42 | |
| And then they'll come in and make any repairs. They might find something after the sandblast. | 00:32:44 | |
| There could be some minor repairs. We're not expecting anything major. | 00:32:49 | |
| At this point. | 00:32:53 | |
| And then after that they'll go in and they'll coat the interior and exterior of the tank. | 00:32:55 | |
| And there's a picture there, the ladder you can see is. That's the interior ladder that will be replaced. | 00:33:00 | |
| Project schedule. | 00:33:07 | |
| We're hoping to kick this project off. | 00:33:08 | |
| December 1st, we're hoping to have them on site mobilizing. | 00:33:10 | |
| December 1st. | 00:33:13 | |
| And then hopefully a week later they'll start construction. | 00:33:16 | |
| And then hopefully the project will closeout. | 00:33:18 | |
| Weather permitting. | 00:33:21 | |
| By the end of February or. | 00:33:23 | |
| Early March. | 00:33:25 | |
| So here the Staffs recommendation today is to award a construction contract to SoCal Pacific Construction Court. | 00:33:29 | |
| Doing the business as National Coating and Lining Company, Inc. | 00:33:36 | |
| For the 600,000 gallon reservoir rehabilitation project. | 00:33:39 | |
| In the amount of $575,335. | 00:33:43 | |
| And then to authorize a 10% construction contingency in the amount of 57,000. | 00:33:48 | |
| $335. | 00:33:53 | |
| And then also three authorize our executive director to execute all. | 00:33:55 | |
| Applicable document. | 00:33:59 | |
| So with that. | 00:34:02 | |
| If there's any questions, any questions? Yes. | 00:34:04 | |
| Pamper Lopez. | 00:34:06 | |
| What was the initial? | 00:34:09 | |
| Budgeted, uh. | 00:34:11 | |
| Dollar amount that. | 00:34:12 | |
| That going into this that we. | 00:34:13 | |
| Thought this was going to cost. | 00:34:16 | |
| About 689,000. | 00:34:18 | |
| Is what our engineering estimate was. | 00:34:21 | |
| And so we. | 00:34:24 | |
| We forecasted this into the budget. | 00:34:25 | |
| Yes. | 00:34:27 | |
| OK, yes. | 00:34:28 | |
| The money is in the budget. It was approved in June. | 00:34:29 | |
| And the monies in the account. | 00:34:32 | |
| So I I know we consented to this on #4 and I was looking at the proposal. | 00:34:34 | |
| And it kind of ties into this because it's the inspection. | 00:34:40 | |
| That goes along with the tank. | 00:34:44 | |
| The tank refurbishment, right? | 00:34:48 | |
| But there's a huge disparagement between the two bids, like 1 was 51,000 and the other one was like 100. | 00:34:51 | |
| 102,000. | 00:34:58 | |
| Well, why was there a huge variance? | 00:35:01 | |
| I don't know if it was because they're coming from out of town, if it was lodging or. | 00:35:04 | |
| I can't really tell you I I really don't. | 00:35:11 | |
| But CSI, the company we were going, we selected. | 00:35:13 | |
| Very well respected. They've done hundreds of tanks. | 00:35:18 | |
| They've worked with our engineering team. | 00:35:22 | |
| So again, we feel very comfortable going with CSI. | 00:35:25 | |
| But why the other bid came in so high? I couldn't. | 00:35:28 | |
| I can't really answer that question. | 00:35:31 | |
| Is the. | 00:35:34 | |
| If I can. | 00:35:35 | |
| And Dennis team. | 00:35:37 | |
| Sorry my buttons not working. Dennis and his team are definitely more well versed on these bids, but. | 00:35:40 | |
| Just from. | 00:35:45 | |
| Prior experience going out to bid there could be. | 00:35:46 | |
| A bunch of reasons why. | 00:35:49 | |
| The variance is so big, which is why we typically go through that process and make sure we get a minimum of three bids because you | 00:35:51 | |
| can see them. | 00:35:54 | |
| Range, but it can even just be something like they have another project that month and they don't really want to do the extra | 00:35:58 | |
| project, so they'll bid high. | 00:36:01 | |
| And then another company has an opening that month and they'll be a blow. You know, it could just be something like that. So, so, | 00:36:05 | |
| but we have. | 00:36:09 | |
| I would say. | 00:36:12 | |
| Dennis can tell me if I'm wrong, but. | 00:36:13 | |
| I've noticed on recent bids we are seeing big variations of just one company will be half of what another company's bidding on the | 00:36:15 | |
| same job and I think. | 00:36:20 | |
| Even on this. | 00:36:24 | |
| This particular one, I think there was a bit over $1,000,000. | 00:36:25 | |
| Right on the construction business. | 00:36:29 | |
| So, so we were seeing that, but it's just another reason why it's good that we go through the process to get multiple bids. | 00:36:31 | |
| So what's the? | 00:36:38 | |
| Once the repair is complete, internal, external what? What are we? How many years are? | 00:36:40 | |
| Were you anticipating? | 00:36:44 | |
| So the last tank rehab was done in 2013. | 00:36:46 | |
| So I would say 10 to 12 years. | 00:36:49 | |
| I would hope to get, I would like to get 12 years. | 00:36:52 | |
| I think that's kind of average. | 00:36:55 | |
| What was the repair? | 00:36:57 | |
| 1012 years ago, was it as extensive as it is? | 00:36:59 | |
| Now it was. | 00:37:02 | |
| It was and there were some issues with the. | 00:37:04 | |
| Adhesion. | 00:37:07 | |
| So that project was delayed and. | 00:37:08 | |
| At the time I don't know if there was an inspector on site. | 00:37:11 | |
| But there was some issues. | 00:37:14 | |
| And that's kind of more reason to. | 00:37:16 | |
| My staff wants to have an inspector on site. It's it's normal business to have an inspector but. | 00:37:18 | |
| I know back in 2013 there were some adhesive issues with the with the project. | 00:37:24 | |
| So knowing that we. | 00:37:30 | |
| We are. | 00:37:31 | |
| Going to do maintenance on our tank. | 00:37:33 | |
| And so we're going to be. | 00:37:35 | |
| We're going to just be pumping. | 00:37:37 | |
| Water now since we don't have a storage tank, right? | 00:37:39 | |
| Correct. | 00:37:42 | |
| So. | 00:37:43 | |
| Go ahead. | 00:37:44 | |
| So. | 00:37:46 | |
| The difference between the storage tank and now we're going to actually have to use our pumps. | 00:37:47 | |
| To pump. | 00:37:52 | |
| On demand, right? | 00:37:53 | |
| Is that no, no. So all the water now, so the the treatment plan will be offline completely. | 00:37:54 | |
| So we'll be receiving water from United. | 00:38:00 | |
| United Water, it comes down Pleasant Valley Rd. | 00:38:03 | |
| We have a connection right before you go into the naval base there. | 00:38:05 | |
| So if we when we shut the treatment plant off, we turn off Cayegas? | 00:38:08 | |
| It will open up automatically. | 00:38:12 | |
| And feed, feed the city, the beach district and the Navy, just like normal operations. | 00:38:14 | |
| So I've met with the United, they're aware of it, they're coming out in a couple of weeks to meet with us again. | 00:38:19 | |
| And, umm. | 00:38:25 | |
| But we've been on bypass before. We were on it a few weeks back, just for a few days. | 00:38:26 | |
| We just have that valve, that clay valve. | 00:38:31 | |
| Which controls the flow during this time. | 00:38:33 | |
| Just had it serviced so we're ready to go. | 00:38:36 | |
| And staff's recommendation was to go on United 100%. | 00:38:40 | |
| If we were to go on Caius, you'd be a lot more costly. | 00:38:45 | |
| For this three month duration. | 00:38:48 | |
| Are you we anticipating like a pressure differential? | 00:38:49 | |
| No. | 00:38:52 | |
| Same pressure, OK. | 00:38:53 | |
| Cool, so. | 00:38:55 | |
| Couple years ago when Mark Watkins was your Public Works director. | 00:38:57 | |
| He invited members of the council to go on a tour. Dennis, I think you were part of that. | 00:39:02 | |
| Also and showed us walked us through the water plant and. | 00:39:07 | |
| If you. | 00:39:11 | |
| Have an interest? You might want to ask for Tory. It really helps and. | 00:39:12 | |
| Better understand. | 00:39:16 | |
| The workings inner workings of the water and. | 00:39:17 | |
| And the tank and everything else so. | 00:39:20 | |
| And I had some of the same questions, but we. | 00:39:23 | |
| We approved that item, so I decided. | 00:39:25 | |
| To move on. | 00:39:27 | |
| Yeah, I. | 00:39:29 | |
| I questioned the disparity too. | 00:39:30 | |
| I guess that happens. | 00:39:33 | |
| OK. Any other questions or comments? | 00:39:34 | |
| All right. I just, I wanted to thank you for putting together two really good staff reports and including the scope of work and. | 00:39:39 | |
| And in this, the second report that we're talking about right now, very complete and. | 00:39:46 | |
| Very thorough with. | 00:39:51 | |
| All the supporting. | 00:39:53 | |
| Data and reports. So thank you very much for the. | 00:39:54 | |
| With a good job. Thank you. | 00:39:58 | |
| All right. | 00:39:59 | |
| OK, so we have a recommendation to award the construction contract to SoCal Pacific Construction Core DBA National Coding and | 00:40:02 | |
| Lighting Company Incorporated. | 00:40:07 | |
| For the Point 6,000,000 gallon reservoir rehabilitation project. | 00:40:12 | |
| #WA25-707 in the amount of 700. | 00:40:17 | |
| 575,335 and authorized a 10% construction contingency in the amount of 57. | 00:40:22 | |
| 1335 and authorized the executive director to execute all applicable. | 00:40:30 | |
| Documents may I have a motion and a second? | 00:40:35 | |
| So move to approve. | 00:40:39 | |
| I'll 2nd, 2nd. | 00:40:42 | |
| Any discussion? Any further discussion on? | 00:40:44 | |
| OK. | 00:40:49 | |
| Madam Clerk, please conduct A roll call, please. | 00:40:50 | |
| OK, roll call vote. | 00:40:55 | |
| Member LA Boat. | 00:40:56 | |
| Yes. | 00:40:57 | |
| Member Lopez. | 00:40:58 | |
| Yes, Member McQueen Lejeune. | 00:40:59 | |
| Vice Chair Thomas. | 00:41:01 | |
| And Chair Hernandez motion passes unanimously. | 00:41:03 | |
| Great. Thank you. | 00:41:06 | |
| Thank you. Thank you, staff. | 00:41:07 | |
| Agency members reports comments and requests for future agenda items. | 00:41:10 | |
| I'd like to remind agency members that all requested items will require a motion, a second and a majority vote to be placed on a | 00:41:14 | |
| future agenda. | 00:41:18 | |
| Does anyone have any reports, comments, or requests for future agenda items? | 00:41:22 | |
| I have a question we're going to be discussing. | 00:41:28 | |
| Requests for future agenda items in the City Council. Do we have any plans to change the procedure? | 00:41:31 | |
| For this body. | 00:41:36 | |
| If the Council approves the change of the procedure, we can discuss at the next meeting whether the this Board would want to adopt | 00:41:38 | |
| the same procedure. OK. | 00:41:42 | |
| We were going to, we were going to start with the council tonight. | 00:41:47 | |
| Sounds good. Thank you. | 00:41:50 | |
| All right, the next regular meeting is scheduled for Monday, November 17th. | 00:41:51 | |
| 2025 at 4:00 PM. I'd like to adjourn the meeting. The time is now 441. | 00:41:56 |