Meeting: City Council, Housing Authority, & Surplus Property Authority Meeting (Closed Session at 5:45pm)

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CITY COUNCIL CLOSED SESSION AGENDA/ CALL TO ORDER / ROLL CALL
PUBLIC COMMENT
CLOSED SESSION ITEMS A. CONFERENCE WITH LEGAL COUNSEL- EXISTING LITIGATION
CITY COUNCIL REGULAR MEETING AGENDA
CALL TO ORDER / FLAG SALUTE/ ROLL CALL
INSPIRATION
CLOSED SESSION REPORT
PUBLIC COMMENT
AGENDA APPROVAL
PRESENTATIONS 1. ARTHRITIS AWARENESS MONTH PROCLAMATION
PRESENTATIONS 2. ASIAN AMERICAN AND PACIFIC ISLANDER HERITAGE MONTH PROCLAMATION
PRESENTATIONS 3. NATIONAL PUBLIC WORKS WEEK PROCLAMATION & ANNUAL PROJECT UPDATE
CALL TO ORDER THE SPECIAL JOINT MEETING OF THE CITY COUNCIL, HOUSINGAUTHORITY, AND SURPLUS PROPERTY AUTHORITY COMMISSION
PUBLIC HEARING 5. BIENNUAL BUDGET FISCAL YEARS 2025-26 AND 2026-27 BUDGET WORKSHOP #2
CONSENT CALENDAR
BUSINESS ITEM 10. BEACH EROSION AUTHORITY FOR CLEAN OCEANS AND NOURISHMENT (BEACON) GOALS FOR FISCAL YEAR (FY) 2025/26
BUSINESS ITEMS 11. CITY HALL ELECTRIC VEHICLE CHARGER UPDATE
CITY MANAGER COMMENTS AND REPORTS
COUNCILMEMBERS’ REPORTS AND COMMENTS
REQUEST FOR FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS
ADJOURNMENT

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	1/2 public comments tonight.	00:00:00
	No public comments for closed session.	00:00:02
	Great. Thank you. Madam City Attorney, please read the closed session item into the record.	00:00:04
	Thank you, Madam Mayor. We have one matter going into closed session tonight.	00:00:10
	That is conference with legal counsel regarding existing litigation.	00:00:14
	Pursuant to Government Code section.	00:00:18
	549.	00:00:20
	56.9 D one.	00:00:21
	The number of cases is 1.	00:00:25
	Discussion with legal counsel on pending litigation.	00:00:27
	When discussion and open session would prejudice the agency in the litigation.	00:00:30
	And in this matter, let the record reflect that Councilmember Gama is going to recuse himself from this discussion.	00:00:35
	To the extent there is any reportable action at the conclusion of the closed session, I will report out.	00:00:42
	Great, thank you. Are there any other council members that have a conflict of interest with this topic?	00:00:48
	If not, we will now recess to closed session. The time is now 5.	00:00:55
	40 I just want to state that.	00:01:00
	I live within 1000 feet of said property and an abundance of caution. I'm going to recuse myself from this matter.	00:01:04
	Great. Thank you. I will now recess to closed session. The time is now 546.	00:01:11
	City Council regular meeting. I'm calling this meeting to order. The time is now 630.	00:44:25
	Please stand and join us for the flax loop.	00:44:30
	Over your heart.	00:44:37
	Ready. Begin.	00:44:38
	I pledge allegiance to the flag of the.	00:44:40
	Of the United States of America.	00:44:42
	And to the Republic.	00:44:44
	One nation under God.	00:44:47
	Indivisible with liberty and justice for all.	00:44:49
	Madam Clerk, please take roll.	00:44:57
	Councilmember Gama.	00:44:59
	Here. Councilmember Hernandez here. Councilmember Perez here.	00:45:03
	Mayor Pro Tem Lopez.	00:45:07
	Here and Mayor McQueen Lejeune here.	00:45:09
	And now we'll hear the inspiration from Councilmember Perez.	00:45:12
	Thank you, I did remember.	00:45:15
	Barely.	00:45:19
	So in honor of Mental Health Month, which is May.	00:45:22
	This month.	00:45:26
	I'm going to talk about an important program that's in our community called the Ventura County Crisis Intervention Team.	00:45:26
	I'm going to get a little background.	00:45:33
	So the CIT or dub CIT.	00:45:35
	Program was established in 2001 as a proactive response to a concerning trend. Over the previous decade, there had been over 17	00:45:38
	officer involved shootings involving individuals with mental illness, including eight in a single year.	00:45:45
	Recognizing the need for a more compassionate and effective approach.	00:45:52
	The Ventura County Sheriff's Department in collaboration with city police agencies.	00:45:56
	Ventura County Behavioral Health.	00:46:00
	And the local chapter of the National Alliance of Mental Illness, or NAMI, initiated the CIT program.	00:46:02
	The program has conducted 56 academies, trained nearly 2000 first responders, communication operators and key personnel.	00:46:08
	This extensive training equips officers with strategies to deescalate situations and connect individuals to appropriate services.	00:46:16
	We also have a 24/7 mobile crisis response.	00:46:24
	Which is a partnership between.	00:46:27
	Inter behavioral health in our local law enforcement. So anytime there's a mental health call.	00:46:31
	There is someone on call they can call to bring in if that person is not already.	00:46:35
	Engaged and come in and help de escalate and help mental health.	00:46:40
	It's one of those programs that we need a lot more assistance and resources with.	00:46:45
	And the reason why I bring it up is because I know that the county just received a $93 million grant for mental health.	00:46:50
	I'm really hoping that they'll take an opportunity to look at some of the important programs that we have in this community, the	00:46:57
	ones that make life changing.	00:47:01
	Things in our community, especially with our Police Department.	00:47:06
	And improve the personnel, increase resources.	00:47:09
	Because as it stands right now.	00:47:13
	The city of Winimi shares one.	00:47:15
	Crisis personnel with the city of Oxnard.	00:47:19
	So that tells you there's about 300,000 people.	00:47:22
	Shared between one person from behavioral health.	00:47:26
	So.	00:47:30
	Inspiration is mental health programs in Ventura County and the need for more resources, more personnel.	00:47:32
	And more awareness brought and attention brought to what's going on in our communities and that's it. Thank you.	00:47:38
	Thank you, Councilmember Perez. That is a very important topic, so thank you for sharing that.	00:47:45
	We'll move on to our city attorney. Please provide the closed session report.	00:47:50
	Thank you, Madam Mayor.	00:47:55
	At the time of the April 17 City Council meeting, I believe it was April 17.	00:47:57
	On a vote of four to zero with Councilmember Gama having been recused.	00:48:03
	Recusing himself.	00:48:08
	The City Council directed.	00:48:09
	Umm, that.	00:48:13
	We try to enter into an agreement with the owner of the Surfside Motel.	00:48:14
	To get our legally binding compliance agreement. And if they wouldn't agree to that.	00:48:21
	Then we were directed to commence litigation.	00:48:26
	I'm pleased to report that we.	00:48:29
	Did enter into as of this morning.	00:48:33
	Actually you signed it now, so it's as of now.	00:48:35
	A legally binding compliance agreement.	00:48:40
	With Mr. Penny, the owner of the Surfside Hotel Motel.	00:48:42
	And that pursuant to the terms of this agreement.	00:48:46
	The construction will be completed within a year.	00:48:50
	There are other items in there that I don't really want to discuss right now.	00:48:53
	Um, and that if any of the terms of the agreement are breached.	00:49:00
	Mr. Peeny has agreed to the appointment of a receiver.	00:49:05
	So which is what we have been trying to do for years in litigation.	00:49:09
	So.	00:49:14
	That's it.	00:49:16
	That's the report.	00:49:17
	Thank you, Madam City Attorney.	00:49:19
	We'll move on to public comments.	00:49:21
	Madam Clerk, do we have any public comments for items that are not pertaining to the agenda?	00:49:23
	Yes, and we'll start with Victor Gallardo.	00:49:27
	Thank you. Good evening, Madam Mayor and distinguished members of the Council.	00:49:39
	I'm here to.	00:49:44
	I'm here representing the Alexis Lemonade stand.	00:49:46
	It is a children's fundraiser.	00:49:49
	A concerning cancer.	00:49:52
	It's been in existence for about 20 years.	00:49:54
	They've raised over well. Actually, we on the West Coast have raised over $1,000,000 for children's research.	00:49:58
	On July the 3rd.	00:50:06
	The writer that is leaving.	00:50:09
	The Canadian border is going to be going through Waeneme.	00:50:12
	I would like the city of Wanimi to get some good PR out of this.	00:50:16
	He's going to be hitting the entire West Coast.	00:50:20
	And he's going to stop here overnight before he goes to Long Beach.	00:50:24
	It will not cost the city any money.	00:50:28
	There'll be donations from.	00:50:32
	Different entities.	00:50:34
	In the county, in Oxnard and possibly Winnie, me, some small businesses.	00:50:36
	But I've talked to.	00:50:41
	Ben Garcia, the local musician.	00:50:44
	He's gonna donate an hour's music.	00:50:47
	I would like to have this event.	00:50:50
	Somewhere very visible in Winnemi.	00:50:52
	Either in front, like if this was the Christmas season.	00:50:55
	Maybe the the Alaskan?	00:50:58
	Playing memorial over on the beach.	00:51:01
	There's a lot of different places that the city might suggest other than my suggestion.	00:51:04
	And.	00:51:11
	I just hope that the city can get some good PR out of this.	00:51:12
	I'm not asking any other entities here locally.	00:51:17
	Like I said, I want the city wanting me to.	00:51:20
	Get some good PR out of this and and hopefully.	00:51:24
	It'll make the news or some some newspaper.	00:51:27
	Television station will get get a hold of this. I'm doing some groundwork. I just got this position a week ago in San Francisco.	00:51:31
	So, umm.	00:51:40
	I'm hoping that you will consider it.	00:51:42
	And if it comes through, I'm available to work with whoever.	00:51:45
	Is going to work from the city.	00:51:50
	Thank you. Great. Thank you. There's some questions. Councilmember Perez, do we have an approximate time as to yes.	00:51:52
	The The writer is leaving the Canadian border.	00:52:00
	On the 3rd of June.	00:52:03
	He should be coming through here on the 3rd of July because.	00:52:06
	There is going to be a big festivity on the 4th of July and the 5th of July in Long Beach.	00:52:10
	Do we? I mean, do we know?	00:52:17
	His whereabouts as to the July 3rd, when we can expect him or when you want to have that all depends on traffic.	00:52:19
	It is a Thursday, the Thursday before 4th of July.	00:52:26
	Couple of things like that.	00:52:30
	Yes. Any other questions?	00:52:32
	Any other questions?	00:52:35
	So you will keep us informed though? Yes, absolutely. I just.	00:52:36
	I would just like to get some information.	00:52:41
	If it's OK with the city.	00:52:43
	Thank you, City Manager.	00:52:46
	I was just going to note I believe we have.	00:52:47
	Your contact information if you Yes, yes. So we'll have somebody follow up with you. Thank you so much.	00:52:50
	Do we need to put a future agenda item on that?	00:52:56
	Potentially, I think at this point if.	00:53:00
	We don't have all the details, but if it is something that can be done at no cost with minimal effort, it might be something that	00:53:04
	staff can just do on its own, but.	00:53:08
	If what what we can do is all, we'll follow up on that and if we find that there is going to be any resources required, we can let	00:53:12
	the council know so it could be scheduled for a future item. Thank you. Thank you.	00:53:18
	And thank you so much, Mr. Thank you very much.	00:53:25
	Becky Bruning.	00:53:27
	Good evening, Mayor, Mayor Pro Tem, council staff.	00:53:36
	I'm here representing Roku outdoors tonight.	00:53:42
	We are having our annual fundraiser on June the 1st.	00:53:45
	From 4:00 to 7:00 we have about 10 tickets left.	00:53:50
	So if you're interested then let me know tonight because I do have tickets on me.	00:53:54
	And we're having our family fish day the 4th Sunday.	00:53:59
	Out at the pier from 8:00 to 11:00.	00:54:03
	Thank you.	00:54:07
	Luis.	00:54:09
	Thank you.	00:54:16
	Greeting mayor to have council members and staff in the community.	00:54:17
	I'm here just to give a brief report and summary on the Ventura County Area Agency on Aging. I've been representing wanting me for	00:54:22
	the last two years.	00:54:25
	And this year is the fourth year. Every four years, they are required to submit a strategic plan to the county and then to the	00:54:29
	state for approval.	00:54:32
	And just so you guys know some of the goals that they've identified this year in the first quarter?	00:54:36
	They were coming from January to April.	00:54:41
	One is to help older adults maintain their independence, inability to live at home.	00:54:43
	Two, to protect older adults living in long term care facilities.	00:54:48
	Provide home delivered meals.	00:54:51
	Provide health insurance information and system navigation.	00:54:53
	Through unbiased counseling.	00:54:56
	Provide evidence based classes that help prevent falls for seniors.	00:54:58
	Provide congregate meals.	00:55:02
	Prevent abuse and protect the rights of older adults, including case management for those that have been abused.	00:55:04
	Provide transportation.	00:55:10
	And to provide caregivers with information on how to assist.	00:55:11
	About the available resources for these the aging population.	00:55:15
	And communicate to the public who we are, their services we provide in the resources sources that are available.	00:55:18
	So that's why I'm here.	00:55:24
	I did provide Georgiana with some documentation to provide to the council of the different services that the agency does provide	00:55:25
	to the city. Hopefully the list can be posted on the website.	00:55:30
	We did have a meeting last week and.	00:55:37
	As the governor, you know, updated his budget for California and things are coming downstream, one thing we were notified at the	00:55:39
	hearing or at the meeting was that two services in Winemi are going to be cut or for the program in Ventura County.	00:55:45
	It's the 30 day SNAP food box program.	00:55:52
	And the senior nutrition farm, which provides a lot of food.	00:55:55
	For the insecure in our in our county and in our city.	00:55:58
	I provided.	00:56:02
	Dollar amounts that go to each city to you guys that's based on population, but I feel information like this you guys need to be	00:56:03
	aware of because.	00:56:06
	As we look at budget cuts coming down from the federal government to the state, you know they're going to push the buck down to	00:56:10
	the cities as well. That's what we were told in the last meeting. So I think it's prudent information for you guys to look at as	00:56:15
	you guys are considering, you know, budget cuts and the city's budget as well on what services.	00:56:20
	You guys may need to.	00:56:26
	Up some resources on or take away from.	00:56:27
	So that our senior population does not go.	00:56:30
	Hungry or without?	00:56:32
	That's it.	00:56:34
	Thank you so much.	00:56:35
	And you're so important. It is important for us to know that. So appreciate that. Thank you so much.	00:56:36
	Hello, Good evening. I live in Port Wayne, Amy, for many years. Greg Ross.	00:56:49
	Adjacent to the port.	00:56:55
	As I've said before in this meeting.	00:56:59
	The.	00:57:02
	The port of Waeneme is the closest port.	00:57:04
	On the West Coast.	00:57:07
	In terms of high density residential to any other port?	00:57:10
	On the West Coast.	00:57:14
	So that being said.	00:57:16
	I have to give the port some credit.	00:57:20
	Their noise levels have been reduced in the last two weeks. I take careful notes.	00:57:22
	I jot down exact times. What kind of noise?	00:57:27
	Starting at 2:00 in the morning.	00:57:30
	And they've been better.	00:57:32
	So I'll give them a little credit.	00:57:35
	However.	00:57:37
	Sunday morning, 6:44 AM.	00:57:39
	20 to 30 minute blast from a ship's captain.	00:57:44
	At 6:44 AM.	00:57:48
	Is this a good neighbor?	00:57:50
	Not in this instance it's not.	00:57:52
	They are hiring good people.	00:57:54
	Zach, the new communications director, he's communicating with us, which is good.	00:57:57
	Miguel Rodriguez is is going to HOA Coalition meetings.	00:58:03
	However.	00:58:08
	You probably know this, but I'm going to stay in anyway.	00:58:10
	There's 30 plus HOA's in the.	00:58:13
	In the city of Port Hueneme.	00:58:17
	And 45 to 5500 people live adjacent to the port.	00:58:19
	The port needs to up their game a little bit.	00:58:24
	This noise level.	00:58:27
	And now they're they're talking about some carbon monitoring.	00:58:29
	Sensors, which is great.	00:58:34
	But umm.	00:58:36
	Are they going to put them away to the north in Oxnard?	00:58:37
	Because it is the Oxnard Harbor Commission, we don't have representation there.	00:58:40
	There's 5 members.	00:58:44
	They're all from other places, not from Port Wayne, ME.	00:58:46
	I would like to see us have representation on that.	00:58:50
	On that, district Commissioners.	00:58:53
	Board, but we don't have it.	00:58:55
	So this is just one more instance I'll give you.	00:58:58
	This is what we received on the 12th of May.	00:59:01
	Construction notice from the.	00:59:05
	Construction begins May.	00:59:09
	12th Monday.	00:59:11
	We get it the same day.	00:59:13
	That's not good communication.	00:59:15
	Come on.	00:59:18
	They need to be better neighbors and.	00:59:19
	You talk to those district commissioners and it's like a little bit like talking to a potted plant.	00:59:23
	And I'm going to repeat myself here.	00:59:29
	But Port Hueneme is a redheaded stepchild to the port.	00:59:31
	And I I'm I'm.	00:59:34
	If you look at their, their numbers, their financial numbers that they just talked about in their meeting at 3:00.	00:59:36
	They've more than doubled.	00:59:43
	Their revenue.	00:59:44
	In the last.	00:59:46
	Since 2013.	00:59:47
	Thank you for listening.	00:59:49
	Thank you.	00:59:51
	And then we just have one written public comment.	00:59:52
	Hello City Council, this is to be read at the next City Council meeting.	00:59:56
	I would like to remain anonymous.	01:00:00
	Existing California protections for tenants should be more accessible to tenants seeking help.	01:00:02
	Many Port Winnie, ME tenants have experienced harassment, unjust threats of eviction and many other unfair practices.	01:00:07
	As we all know, not all complaints are actionable complaints.	01:00:14
	There must be accountability.	01:00:18
	Currently this sadly is my reality and overbearing threatening landlords behavior is extreme when unchecked.	01:00:20
	Tenants need immediate assistance in certain circumstances, especially when the tenant have disabilities or vulnerable	01:00:26
	individuals.	01:00:30
	In closing, much attention should be granted in seeking guidance to implement fair practices.	01:00:34
	Between tenant and landlord in Port Hueneme.	01:00:39
	Let's join our neighbor communities and implement existing fair housing practices that ensure laws are being followed.	01:00:42
	Relevant legal citations.	01:00:48
	California Fair Employment and Housing Act, California Government Code sections 12900 through 12996.	01:00:50
	Specifically, section 1295, five and section 12, nine to seven, subsection C1.	01:00:57
	And Silva Acts, California Civil Code section 51, Landlord Harassment Protections, California Civil Code section 789.3.	01:01:04
	Retaliation protections. California Civil Code.	01:01:13
	Section 1942.5. Federal Fair Housing Act 42 United States Code Sections 3601 through 3619, specifically section 3604 and section	01:01:16
	3613.	01:01:23
	Finally, I would like to thank you for your attention at this moment, Anonymous.	01:01:29
	And that concludes public comment.	01:01:33
	OK, OK.	01:01:35
	Let me just ask. There's just one. I thought there were two.	01:01:36
	There are two other written comments for a item on the agenda.	01:01:41
	Thank you. That was the question.	01:01:46
	Thank you.	01:01:48
	Was that the final item?	01:01:51
	OK, great. Thank you.	01:01:52
	All right. We're going to move on to the agenda approval. May I have a motion and a second to approve the agenda?	01:01:54
	Move to approve.	01:02:00
	Great. Madam Clerk, please take.	01:02:02
	Vote please.	01:02:04
	All in favor, aye. All opposed.	01:02:05
	Hearing none, motion passes unanimously.	01:02:08
	Great. Thank you. We'll move on to conflict of interest. Do any members of Council have any conflicts of interest to disclose?	01:02:10
	For any item on the agenda.	01:02:17
	If not, we'll move on to presentations. First, we're going to have.	01:02:21
	We like to welcome Jessica Camarillo to the podium while we read the proclamation, which is going to be read by.	01:02:27
	Councilmember Perez.	01:02:35
	Thank you.	01:02:38
	Arthritis Awareness Month, May 2025.	01:02:39
	WHEREAS in 1972, at the urging of the Arthritis Foundation, Congress and President Richard M Nixon designated May as National	01:02:42
	Arthritis Month.	01:02:47
	A special time to emphasize research, service and education around arthritis.	01:02:52
	And to raise funds to support the cause.	01:02:56
	Every May since then, National Arthritis Month has been marked by efforts to alleviate.	01:02:59
	Elevate the public's awareness of arthritis.	01:03:04
	And whereas arthritis is a complex family of muscular skeletal disorders with many causes.	01:03:06
	Not yet fully understood, and to date there are no known cures.	01:03:13
	Whereas it consists of more than 100 different diseases or conditions that destroy joint joints.	01:03:17
	Bones, muscle, cartilage, and other connective tissue hampering or haltering physical movement.	01:03:23
	And whereas arthritis may cause severe pain and mobility, joint destruction, total disability, blindness, organ damage, organ	01:03:29
	failure and even death.	01:03:34
	And WHEREAS 60 million Americans have been diagnosed by a doctor with arthritis in the nation's leading cause of disability.	01:03:39
	WHEREAS, as the nation's largest private fundraiser of research, public health programs, and advocacy on behalf behalf of all	01:03:48
	Americans with this painful disease.	01:03:52
	The Arthritis Foundation aims to reduce the number of people suffering from arthritis related physical activity limitations.	01:03:57
	By 20%.	01:04:03
	By 2030.	01:04:05
	And whereas the month of May brings focused efforts.	01:04:06
	OR the Arthritis Foundation to increase awareness of this disease and offer great information about the proven treatments,	01:04:10
	programs and services available to help all Americans with arthritis take control of these diseases.	01:04:17
	Now therefore be it proclaimed that the City Council of the city of Port Hueneme.	01:04:24
	DOES hereby recognize May 2025 as Arthritis Awareness Month.	01:04:28
	Thank you.	01:04:34
	Good evening, Madam Mayor and council members.	01:04:35
	My name is Jessica Camarillo. I'm a junior Oxnard High School of varsity volleyball player and someone who has lived with juvenile	01:04:37
	arthritis since I was 4.	01:04:41
	This year, I'm honored to serve on the planning committee for the Arthritis Foundation's Walk to Cure Arthritis, which will take	01:04:46
	place at the Collection on May 31st.	01:04:50
	Arthritis effects more than 60.	01:04:55
	Million Americans, including children like me.	01:04:57
	Even though I have faced challenges, I have not let arthritis to find me, but rather have used it for motivation to.	01:05:00
	Strive for excellence in the classroom, on the court.	01:05:06
	And then bring in awareness.	01:05:09
	Thank you for recognizing me as Arthritis Month Awareness Month. Your support brings attention to a disease that affects so many	01:05:11
	but is often overlooked. I also invite you to join us.	01:05:16
	At the walk on May 31st, your presence would mean a lot. Thank you again. OK, hold on. We have a video. So we're gonna watch the	01:05:21
	video and then we're gonna ask the council if they have anything to share with you, and then we'll have you come back and take a	01:05:26
	picture.	01:05:30
	Do you believe I have arthritis?	01:05:38
	I thought it was an old person's disease. Then it happened to me.	01:05:40
	I was diagnosed with arthritis when I was four years old. I was 9. I was 230 years old. I was 4. I had just turned 50. I was 16	01:05:44
	months old. Arthritis does not discriminate. Doesn't matter how old you are, who you are, or what you do. I'm a textile designer.	01:05:51
	I'm a singer. I'm a cheerleader. I'm a student to be mommy. I was a former Major League Baseball player. I'm just a kid. I am one,	01:05:59
	I am one. I am 1 of 300,000 kids with arthritis. I am one. I am one. I am one of over.	01:06:06
	50 million Americans affected by the chronic pain of arthritis. There are more of us out there than you would think.	01:06:14
	We are your friends, your Co workers, grandparent.	01:06:20
	We are your kids.	01:06:23
	We are the face of arthritis. I have Scleroderma of Sjogren's syndrome, polyarticular juvenile idiopathic arthritis, osteoporosis,	01:06:25
	lupus.	01:06:29
	Juvenile rheumatoid arthritis. It affects people in different ways, but we all have one thing in common, pain.	01:06:34
	The worst part of arthritis is the pain.	01:06:41
	And the limitations that it brings to you.	01:06:43
	At the age of 25, I had to stop working. By the age of 12, I had both my hips replaced. I had to go through eight months of	01:06:45
	chemotherapy. I couldn't even pick up my own grandchildren. A lot of kids teased me when I was younger in school. It caused me to	01:06:51
	worry about how I was going to provide for my family. Some days I can't run or I can't walk. Sometimes it doesn't allow me to be	01:06:57
	the mom I want to be. You have to be strong.	01:07:03
	You have to be brave, you have to believe in yourself.	01:07:09
	I believe that someday I'll be pain free. I believe in the possibility of a cure. I believe that even with arthritis, I can still	01:07:12
	do amazing things with my life. Awareness is key. Spread the word. Tell the world we are the face of our greatest. We believe if	01:07:18
	we stand together, fight together, we will find a cure. With your commitment, anything is possible. It's time to believe. Believe	01:07:25
	in a cure. I believe, I believe, I believe.	01:07:31
	I believe.	01:07:37
	Do you?	01:07:38
	Great. Thank you.	01:07:43
	Any council members have any comments?	01:07:45
	Councilmember Hernandez.	01:07:47
	Thank you so much for being here tonight. You know, I.	01:07:49
	No, you don't know this, but when I was very young I discovered I'd have scoliosis and since then developed osteoporosis. So it is	01:07:53
	a very real.	01:07:57
	Thing happening to children and and living with it is not easy. So thank you for bringing the awareness to us tonight.	01:08:02
	Really appreciate your presence here.	01:08:09
	Thank you. Thank you anyone else.	01:08:11
	You know, even though we know children suffer from these things, you don't really think about it every day as children dealing	01:08:17
	with this on a daily basis.	01:08:21
	And we always think of adults.	01:08:25
	Get this issue because you know as we age.	01:08:28
	But I just thank you for your courage. And when did you find out that you had?	01:08:31
	What condition do you have? Actually? I have general rheumatoid arthritis and I found out when I was 4.	01:08:36
	And it's you're still able to play volleyball and everything, and I assume you're on it.	01:08:42
	Medication and you have to do any physical therapy. What type of things do you have to do to keep it under control?	01:08:47
	Yeah, I used to have to do a lot more medication, but right now I just have to go to LA every five weeks and get an infusion.	01:08:52
	Oh, that doesn't sound fun, but I'm glad to hear that it is less.	01:08:59
	Hard on you than what it was.	01:09:04
	Well, thank you for coming and sharing your story.	01:09:05
	Yes, and I'll just say just thank you for coming out today really shows your your bravery and strength and so.	01:09:09
	I'm sure your family is just looking forward to all the wonderful things you're going to do in the future. And so just so glad	01:09:16
	that you came to spend some time with us today. So, Madam Mayor, may I make a comment? Thank you.	01:09:22
	I think you said you were a junior in high school.	01:09:28
	Have you thought about UCLA?	01:09:31
	We're all Bruins or I'm a Bruin, so think about UCLA. They've got a great volleyball team.	01:09:34
	Go for it.	01:09:39
	Over to you.	01:09:40
	On behalf of the entire City Council, we're going to present to you this.	01:09:41
	Proclamation.	01:09:47
	And we want to thank you for coming here and thank you for having the courage to step up and talk about something that's very	01:09:48
	personal to you.	01:09:52
	With that.	01:09:57
	We want to.	01:09:58
	Encourage you to reach.	01:10:00
	For the stars.	01:10:01
	Work hard, graduate, and keep your dad happy.	01:10:03
	Yeah, we are happy with him and.	01:10:05
	You're a part of our family, OK, so.	01:10:08
	Can we come over here and take a picture?	01:10:10
	And then maybe mom and Dad should come in.	01:10:36
	Yeah, Mom and Dad should come.	01:10:38
	Don't block the seal.	01:10:40
	Chief, you need to line it up.	01:10:45
	Thank you. Thank you so much.	01:11:07
	We're going to move on to our next presentation. Councilmember Hernandez will read the Asian American and Pacific Islander	01:11:18
	Heritage Month.	01:11:21
	Thank you, Mayor. Tonight's proclamation is for all our Asian American and Pacific Islander here.	01:11:25
	Islanders who live here in Port Hueneme.	01:11:30
	We are in your honor, recognizing.	01:11:33
	May has Asian Asian American, Pacific Islander Heritage Month.	01:11:36
	Whereas.	01:11:41
	Asian American and Pacific Islander Heritage Month is observed throughout the United States in May to celebrate and honor the	01:11:42
	significant contribution.	01:11:46
	Vibrant cultures and.	01:11:50
	Diverse histories of Asian Americans and Pacific Islanders and whereas the month of may commemorates the first Japanese immigrants	01:11:52
	arrival to the United states on May 7th, 1843 and the completion of the transcontinental railroad on May 10th, 1869, significantly	01:12:01
	contributed to by Chinese immigrants and whereas the city of Port Hueneme takes pride in its vibrant ape.	01:12:09
	Pi Community whose members have profoundly enriched our city through their entrepreneurial spirit, dedication to education,	01:12:18
	military service, public service, arts, culture and community leadership. And WHEREAS, despite the invaluable contributions of	01:12:26
	AAPI individuals, we recognize the historical and ongoing challenges faced by these communities, including discrimination.	01:12:35
	Exclusion and hate crimes.	01:12:44
	We reaffirm our city's commitment to inclusion, respect and equity for all our residents. And whereas during Asian American and	01:12:46
	Pacific Islander Heritage Month, we honor the legacy and perseverance of AAPI individuals who have shaped our community, state and	01:12:54
	nation. And we commit ourselves to fostering understanding, appreciation and unity within our diverse community, our diverse city.	01:13:02
	Now therefore be it proclaimed that the City Council of the city of Port Hueneme.	01:13:11
	Hereby recognizes and proclaims the month of May 2025 has Asian American and Pacific Islander Heritage Month. We encourage all	01:13:15
	residents to celebrate and deepen their understanding of the rich heritage and contributions of Asian American and Pacific	01:13:21
	Islander communities. Thank you.	01:13:27
	Population and annual project update.	01:13:40
	Do we want to hold that?	01:13:44
	I'm wondering if the chief can see if Fred's still outside.	01:13:46
	OK, Fred's pulling double duty so.	01:13:50
	Our mayor Pro Tem will read it OK, the City of Port Hueneme proclaims National Public Works Week.	01:13:55
	May 18th.	01:14:01
	Through the 24th, 2025.	01:14:02
	Whereas public works professional focus on infrastructure.	01:14:04
	Facilities and service that are vital.	01:14:08
	Importance to sustainable and resilient communities and to public health.	01:14:10
	High quality of life and well-being of the people of the city of Port Hueneme.	01:14:14
	And whereas.	01:14:19
	These infrastructures, facilities and the services that could be not be provided.	01:14:20
	Without the dedication efforts of the public works professionals.	01:14:25
	Who are engineers? Managers.	01:14:29
	And employees of all levels of government.	01:14:31
	And the private sector who are responsible for rebuilding, improving and protecting our nation's.	01:14:33
	Transportation.	01:14:39
	Water supply. Water treatment.	01:14:40
	And the solid waste system.	01:14:43
	Public buildings and other structures and facilities essential for our citizens and whereas.	01:14:45
	It is the public interest for the citizens.	01:14:50
	Civic leaders.	01:14:53
	And the children of in the city of Port Hueneme to gain knowledge.	01:14:55
	Of and maintain an ongoing interest understanding of the importance of public works.	01:14:58
	And the public works programs in their respective communities.	01:15:03
	And WHEREAS, the year 2025 marks the 65th annual National Public Work Week.	01:15:07
	Sponsored by the American Public Works Association.	01:15:13
	Canadian Public Works Association.	01:15:17
	Now therefore be it proclaimed.	01:15:19
	That the City Council of the City of Poor Enemy does hereby designate the week.	01:15:21
	May 18th.	01:15:27
	Through the 24th 2025 as National Public Works Week.	01:15:28
	We urge all citizens to join with our representatives of the public.	01:15:32
	American Public Works Association and the government agencies.	01:15:36
	In the activities, events and ceremonies.	01:15:40
	Designed to pay tribute to our public works professionals, engineers, managers and employees and to recognize the substantial	01:15:43
	contributions they make.	01:15:46
	To protecting our nation's health safety.	01:15:50
	In advancing quality of life for all.	01:15:53
	Proclaim this 19th day of May, 2025.	01:15:55
	Thank you. Over to you, Mr.	01:15:59
	On behalf of the entire Public Works Department, I'd like to thank you all for the proclamation and the recognition.	01:16:01
	We have.	01:16:10
	Great group of people that.	01:16:11
	Are truly dedicated to.	01:16:13
	All of the things that were mentioned in the proclamation and making sure that our community has.	01:16:16
	Everything that it needs as far as public services to make their everyday lives better.	01:16:20
	Great. And it looks like we have an update. Who's going to do that?	01:16:28
	And I have that so.	01:16:33
	We'll do that. Combined with that, we have our annual public works update.	01:16:35
	The last one was a little over a year ago, so it's not quite on the year, it's a little past but.	01:16:41
	Anyway to highlight some of the things that have happened in this past year?	01:16:46
	The.	01:16:51
	Winimi beach swing set.	01:16:53
	That was.	01:16:56
	Constructed and completed.	01:16:58
	Along with that, ancillary to that project, we also replaced.	01:17:01
	Broken.	01:17:05
	Cracked sidewalks that were all along The Walking path out there.	01:17:09
	In an effort to try and keep costs down on that project, we had our own streets team go and do all the removal of all the broken	01:17:15
	panels.	01:17:18
	And then we had.	01:17:22
	Contractor come in and do all the replacement work of the concrete.	01:17:25
	The Channel Islands Blvd. Resurfacing project that we had.	01:17:30
	Let's see there we have a note we had applied for $300,000 grant which we received to help pay for.	01:17:33
	Part of that probably played for almost all of that project.	01:17:38
	The two new firings in the ash container that was set out, that was something that had been requested.	01:17:44
	Two years ago, but incredibly enough, those things took forever to get here for 2.	01:17:51
	Fire rings. I don't know why but.	01:17:57
	We did get them out there as soon as they came in, so hopefully everybody's enjoying them. They came in in the middle of winter,	01:17:59
	but.	01:18:02
	As you've heard this project, we've given several updates on this along the way.	01:18:07
	Our group completed the force main replacement that runs from Pleasant Valley all the way down.	01:18:12
	Through Surfside Village.	01:18:18
	That was.	01:18:21
	Completed the.	01:18:22
	Library parking lot, obviously they had a lot going on from the damage they had done and they.	01:18:24
	Once they got completed.	01:18:29
	We went in and redid 88 improvements.	01:18:31
	Restriped and also as part of that, we had our landscape.	01:18:36
	People go in and.	01:18:40
	Take care of the landscaping and irrigation so everybody would be able to see the nice new mural.	01:18:42
	We continued our.	01:18:50
	Project of clearing of the Creek. This is the third year of five years that we have.	01:18:53
	As you see, there's those red lines from the one on the left is Joyce all the way down to.	01:18:57
	Miranda Park right there by the railroad tracks and then the picture to the right is.	01:19:04
	From behind the library parking lot.	01:19:10
	To where?	01:19:12
	The soccer fields are the new soccer fields are now.	01:19:14
	That one had.	01:19:17
	Come at a request to from some of the.	01:19:19
	Neighboring people that live right on the other side. I guess there had been.	01:19:22
	There's some overgrowth, so.	01:19:27
	They said there was a homeless problem there, so they were getting a lot of people that were just hanging out in there and then.	01:19:29
	Causing ruckus at night, so.	01:19:34
	Went and cleared all that out, which took away that hiding spot.	01:19:36
	We had some events, the latest of which was the Arbor Day over at.	01:19:41
	Boulder Park, where we.	01:19:46
	Planted some new trees. We have like six others that are going to be planted that we haven't set yet, but they'll be planted in	01:19:47
	Miranda.	01:19:50
	As part of that, we had.	01:19:54
	Council member Gama was there and some members of the port were there, so it was it was a good event.	01:19:57
	Beautiful oak tree I might add.	01:20:03
	The Bubbling Springs Park project, that's been a long, ongoing project and every one of our divisions has been involved in that.	01:20:09
	From.	01:20:17
	The original planning of it to plan checking to.	01:20:19
	Installation of certain items.	01:20:23
	We've been involved the entire project and we're still involved right now as we're finishing that.	01:20:26
	Project up with some of the things that were.	01:20:31
	Finalizing SO.	01:20:34
	Ancillary of that too was the.	01:20:35
	The farmers Bridge that was already done. The facilities group.	01:20:38
	Repainted and everything and our our.	01:20:42
	Our crews went out and redid all the decomposed granite and cleaned up all the concrete and so it made it look nice.	01:20:45
	Because that was not included as part of the park renovation.	01:20:53
	Our streets division. You can see stats there of what we have in our street on our.	01:20:58
	Infrastructure inventory on the left.	01:21:04
	They did.	01:21:07
	Cracked feeling which prolongs St. life.	01:21:08
	On Patterson, Wayne, ME, Channel Islands and Pleasant Valley.	01:21:11
	Dozens of small potholes.	01:21:15
	Did patching of the streets for the water department.	01:21:18
	For their projects like valve replacements and water line repairs.	01:21:22
	Major sidewalk repairs, upgrades.	01:21:27
	And fixed.	01:21:30
	Over two dozen.	01:21:32
	Tripping hazards.	01:21:34
	The water division, you can see their inventory of things there. They had 15 service line leaks they completed.	01:21:36
	23 valves replaced and might not sound like a lot but.	01:21:44
	Those 23 valves represented areas where.	01:21:48
	The valves are no longer functioning properly, so if we had an issue.	01:21:52
	We wouldn't have been able to isolate.	01:21:55
	Into a much smaller area which would have made a water shut down.	01:21:58
	Affect hundreds of more people.	01:22:03
	Without the replacement of those valves.	01:22:05
	The water group also runs the water agency and they had the.	01:22:09
	Filter membrane replacement design completed.	01:22:15
	They finished their SCADA control room updates, they got the low flow pump project completed which saves a lot of money.	01:22:19
	When we are in a low flow condition where we don't have to take Cayegas water, which is.	01:22:28
	More than double the cost.	01:22:33
	And they got the design started on the water tank, which.	01:22:36
	The membrane and the water tank will be something that will be completed this coming year.	01:22:42
	They've started on the Winimi Rd. water line project, which is.	01:22:48
	The first real project of what?	01:22:53
	We hope will address the water pressure issues throughout the city.	01:22:57
	This is the first one that is.	01:23:01
	Going to be completed. We have other small things that are going on too as well at the same time, but this is something that will.	01:23:04
	Is like the first leg of.	01:23:11
	What we hope will.	01:23:13
	Ultimately end up fixing a lot of the water pressure issues that.	01:23:15
	We've heard about.	01:23:21
	Our solid waste group.	01:23:23
	You can see there.	01:23:26
	16,000 tons of waste this last year, over 2500 tons of recycled material and almost 3000 tons of green waste now that we've got	01:23:27
	the green waste containers out.	01:23:32
	So very busy. We also they also take care of through a contract with the Navy base, we provide services to the Navy as well, so.	01:23:38
	Those numbers include.	01:23:47
	That tonnage so.	01:23:49
	But it's still something else that they're involved with, so.	01:23:51
	Our fleet, you can see there's over 160 work orders of either preventative or corrective maintenance done.	01:23:55
	On our equipment and.	01:24:02
	Including.	01:24:05
	Commercial vehicles or passenger vehicles, over 200 pieces of equipment like a riding lawn mowers or tractors, blowers, chainsaws,	01:24:06
	all that stuff that.	01:24:10
	The crews use in order to make sure that everything's.	01:24:15
	Kept nice.	01:24:19
	Umm, landscape. On the bottom there you can see 4000 trees.	01:24:22
	Amount of acres we have the maintenance of the Bubbling Springs corridor.	01:24:27
	They've done some other projects.	01:24:32
	Hopefully, as I mentioned earlier, the bridge.	01:24:34
	The irrigation pump that needed to be replaced out at the beach.	01:24:36
	They take care of all the sand mitigation and the sand raking to make sure our beach is.	01:24:40
	Clean and stays clean.	01:24:46
	Our engineering group.	01:24:49
	Who's been just completely.	01:24:51
	Swamped this last year?	01:24:53
	They had the the sewer force main project, but.	01:24:56
	Beyond that, they also had.	01:24:59
	All those other projects that I mentioned before this resurfacing swing set, sidewalks, parking lot.	01:25:02
	Almost 100 permits. Encroachment permits, Film permits, Grading permits.	01:25:09
	And again, at the same time we had both the force main and the park project going on, which required.	01:25:15
	A lot of attention.	01:25:21
	The other thing that our engineering group does?	01:25:25
	Is pursue grants?	01:25:29
	We've secured those. On the left are the ones that we've received. You can see that it's over $1,000,000.	01:25:31
	We have.	01:25:39
	Some of those projects will be coming back to Council for your approval.	01:25:40
	As those projects actually come on board.	01:25:45
	And we?	01:25:48
	Are always looking for new grants.	01:25:49
	We have one that.	01:25:52
	We recently applied for, we had the package turned in on Friday, that's for four and a half, $1,000,000, so.	01:25:54
	Hopefully keep our fingers crossed that that comes through.	01:26:00
	And I'd like to thank.	01:26:04
	The city manager.	01:26:06
	As he reached out to the port and worked with them to get a letter of support for that project.	01:26:08
	And also Anna Hanley from.	01:26:13
	Recreation. She used her contacts with the port we named Little League and the library, and we got letters of support from them as	01:26:15
	well so.	01:26:19
	It takes takes a whole team to get it all done.	01:26:24
	Our wastewater, who also.	01:26:30
	Takes care of our storm drain system. You can see some pictures up there and that the numbers of.	01:26:33
	The piping and what we have in the system, we just got our.	01:26:38
	New camera truck not too long ago which came.	01:26:43
	To you.	01:26:46
	For approval.	01:26:47
	So that started our.	01:26:49
	Inspection and.	01:26:53
	Cleaning of the system again.	01:26:55
	That will help us identify future projects.	01:26:58
	Through that analysis. So they're busy with that.	01:27:01
	They also finally got that station right there. The pumps and motors were replaced. That was something that was damaged and	01:27:05
	flooded during the December storm of 23.	01:27:10
	So everything got flooded that the water in there was higher than what they're standing so.	01:27:16
	They got that all done. We got it temporarily fixed and did things, but we had to order new.	01:27:23
	Pumps and motors and stuff.	01:27:28
	To get it fully going, we used.	01:27:30
	Different methods to keep it going in the interim.	01:27:33
	They got that completed besides the force main project that.	01:27:36
	They were in charge of as well.	01:27:41
	And then finally.	01:27:43
	We have a list of things.	01:27:44
	Projects that will be coming in the near future.	01:27:46
	And all of them will be coming to you for.	01:27:50
	Approval and award, so we've got a lot of stuff planned.	01:27:53
	It's going to be very busy.	01:27:58
	If you have any questions, I.	01:28:01
	Any questions?	01:28:03
	I do.	01:28:05
	Thank you so much for the presentation and great job, Public Works Department.	01:28:06
	I have questions about the green waste program.	01:28:11
	Remember when it first came online, it was a state mandate and everyone had to get into compliance. And at that time, whether we	01:28:13
	started it, we didn't really have a facility that I was aware of where we would send the green waste.	01:28:18
	I'm assuming we do now have.	01:28:24
	A place, yes, right now it's just commingled the.	01:28:26
	Individual.	01:28:31
	Food Organics is they'll accept it at both Del Norte. Well, at Del Norte.	01:28:33
	Or we can directly take it out to the landfill, but we're not going to do that. That's too.	01:28:39
	It's too much of A burden for the amount that we're getting thus far.	01:28:44
	But we are expecting the straight.	01:28:49
	Food processing, where it'll just be food and there won't be anything mixed with no.	01:28:52
	Grass or clippings or anything else that will go to a separate place that they'll do something entirely different with.	01:28:57
	Are you seeing that the program is as effective as what it intended to be?	01:29:03
	There's some hesitancy with people. I mean, it took us quite a while to get some places to.	01:29:10
	Even want them because they're afraid that it was going to.	01:29:16
	Track vermin or smell or do something like that. But I mean, ultimately we don't have a choice. We, you know, the state's mandated	01:29:19
	this.	01:29:23
	But little by little, it's coming online. We've seen the tonnage rate start slowly going up.	01:29:27
	So, umm.	01:29:34
	Hopefully it becomes more mainstream. We've got we're working right now with.	01:29:36
	A consultant to help with.	01:29:41
	The compliance reporting and getting better.	01:29:44
	PR out about it.	01:29:48
	To generate more interest and.	01:29:49
	Get the general public.	01:29:53
	More willing to want to use the service.	01:29:56
	And that leads to my final question. I see still a lot of complaints about it and people.	01:29:58
	Grumbling about it, you know, nobody's happy with having to have a third trash can, but.	01:30:03
	For the record, for public dissemination, what is the purpose of having the Greenways program? What is the purpose behind the	01:30:08
	States?	01:30:11
	Mandate of it.	01:30:15
	Yes, it's to go ahead and get as much.	01:30:16
	Possible recycled where we're not filling the landfills.	01:30:20
	It's most of what they're doing with the organics is they want to turn it back into a mulch that's reusable. They put it through a	01:30:24
	process and then so it's.	01:30:28
	Not going to the landfill, it's actually being reused and recycled again out.	01:30:32
	In the general public.	01:30:36
	All right. Thank you.	01:30:38
	Councilmember.	01:30:40
	So the yellow cans are still sitting over at public Works, right? And those.	01:30:42
	Big cans are.	01:30:46
	Alleged to be for food.	01:30:48
	Those are straight food waste. That's what those will be.	01:30:51
	That's a color-coded system the state has so people know what belongs in which can.	01:30:54
	So would a chicken bone go into food can or the organic waste can?	01:30:59
	And the organic well.	01:31:06
	The Yellow 1 is going to be more commercial where it's restaurants that are disposing of their.	01:31:09
	Food leftovers so residents will then.	01:31:16
	Won't have a fourth can for residents. OK, we're gonna commingle then.	01:31:20
	Yes.	01:31:24
	Food waste with.	01:31:25
	Green waste.	01:31:26
	OK.	01:31:28
	I think over our years of Wyoming beach cleanup and all the big beach cleanups we've done, I'm pretty sure we've done more than	01:31:30
	16,000.	01:31:33
	500 tons.	01:31:37
	Well, that was just for this last year.	01:31:38
	That's just for one year.	01:31:40
	16,000 tons.	01:31:42
	Seems like you'd have more than that 16.	01:31:44
	Yeah, 16,000 tons.	01:31:47
	OK. Yeah, there's a lot.	01:31:50
	I was thinking.	01:31:53
	I dropped a zero off OK.	01:31:55
	For a small city is that.	01:31:58
	I mean, do we have like national average of?	01:32:01
	Trash per that we compare to or.	01:32:04
	We're kind of on average with cities our size that are.	01:32:08
	Not rural.	01:32:12
	Like.	01:32:13
	Kind of commingled here with everybody else.	01:32:15
	But there are.	01:32:18
	Agencies that do have better numbers with regards to recycling.	01:32:20
	And the organic waste stuff, especially where?	01:32:24
	There are a lot of people that are.	01:32:27
	More uh.	01:32:30
	Environmental.	01:32:31
	You can see up in the.	01:32:33
	Northern California, where you have.	01:32:35
	A lot of cities like Berkeley and them they're, they're like they're on a 0 waste mission, so.	01:32:38
	The port's heading towards 0 Waste.	01:32:45
	It's ambitious.	01:32:48
	And I guess if enough people did it, yeah, it's possible. But.	01:32:50
	Getting everyone.	01:32:56
	To want to do it. I mean, we're still fighting with people without wanting us to pick their can up for their greenways, so I don't	01:32:59
	want.	01:33:01
	Yes, sometimes I don't put my trash can out because there's so little trash in it then.	01:33:05
	Then the guys are great. They're like, hey, you're trash can.	01:33:10
	But.	01:33:13
	You know, same thing with the greenways that.	01:33:14
	It takes me.	01:33:17
	3-4 weeks to.	01:33:19
	More than halfway fill it.	01:33:20
	And then I'll take it out.	01:33:22
	But I really appreciate everything you guys are doing and.	01:33:24
	I thought we were told at some point or that we were going to have a food waste for residents.	01:33:28
	Not not for residential, it'll be for commercial.	01:33:34
	OK. Just want to double check on that. Thank you.	01:33:37
	Thank you, Councilmember Hernandez. Thank you, Mayor.	01:33:40
	Thank you, Mr. Camarillo, for all the good work that your department does. You guys are out there all the time, highly visible to	01:33:43
	me. I.	01:33:47
	I notice when you when you guys are out there and.	01:33:51
	The work that you do is just what you presented tonight is just amazing. Umm.	01:33:54
	I appreciate the parking lot at the library, it was nice when we could.	01:33:59
	Drive in there for the mural.	01:34:03
	Availing and for the library opening it was.	01:34:06
	Really nice to see the parking lot just smooth and clean.	01:34:09
	I appreciate your work on grants. I am always looking for grant opportunities through SCAG. I sit on the transportation committee,	01:34:13
	so if you ever.	01:34:17
	If there's anything I can do as a member of that committee, please let me know.	01:34:21
	And.	01:34:25
	I understand you have probation.	01:34:27
	Back happening with landscaping as long as you approve it.	01:34:29
	On tonight's agenda, OK, well we're working on that. OK, we'll get to that. Thank you anyway. Thanks. Thank you to all your staff	01:34:33
	and your.	01:34:37
	Thank for your hard work.	01:34:41
	Yeah, Mayor Pro Tem.	01:34:42
	Yes, that's quite a bit. There's a lot of congratulatory things that your department did.	01:34:44
	Bubbling Springs Park is a huge success. I mean.	01:34:50
	I live on Park Ave. so I get to drive bubbly Springs and just to see the amount of people.	01:34:54
	Using that is just great. They're loving it.	01:34:59
	So I.	01:35:03
	I know it's.	01:35:04
	Gabby department that also helped out with that.	01:35:06
	But it's good to see the, you know the library.	01:35:08
	The swing sets at the beach.	01:35:12
	The repaving of.	01:35:13
	Channel Islands.	01:35:16
	The sewer line was a huge project.	01:35:18
	You just, you guys had a, you guys had a packed year.	01:35:23
	And uh.	01:35:26
	Hats off to to your department so.	01:35:28
	Your, your guidance and your leadership, you know, contributed to all the successes within your department. So congratulations on	01:35:31
	that.	01:35:34
	You know, walking down the beach and I see.	01:35:39
	You know, everybody's happy. You know, everybody's walking around here exercising and.	01:35:42
	You know, everybody's enjoying.	01:35:46
	Winnie, me and.	01:35:48
	That that is attributed to our public works department. So thank you.	01:35:49
	Thank you.	01:35:53
	Yeah, Mr. Camarillo, I think everyone has already said what I was thinking about, but thanks for the presentation. It really.	01:35:54
	Brings to mind the work that goes on in the public Works department.	01:36:01
	I'm always see you sitting here and although he's the public works.	01:36:06
	You know, Director.	01:36:09
	But then.	01:36:10
	The actual presentation just showed me today.	01:36:11
	All the elements that are under the.	01:36:14
	Public Works Department. So thank you for your leadership. Now you got great people in each of the areas, but you are the leader	01:36:16
	of the Public Works department. So thank you so much for all the work that you do.	01:36:21
	Thank you.	01:36:26
	Behalf of.	01:36:32
	Yeah.	01:36:47
	OK, 123.	01:36:50
	All right. Thank you.	01:36:56
	OK.	01:37:03
	As we come back together, we will be. We will now recess the City Council meeting and call to order the special.	01:37:05
	Joint meeting.	01:37:12
	Of the City Council and the Housing Authority and the Surplus Property Authority Commission the time.	01:37:13
	Is now 723.	01:37:19
	Madam Clerk, we have a roll call.	01:37:23
	Member Blackwell.	01:37:25
	Councilmember, Member. Commissioner Goma.	01:37:28
	Here Umm.	01:37:30
	Councilmember, Member. Commissioner Hernandez.	01:37:31
	Councilmember, Member. Commissioner Perez here. Mayor Pro Tem, Vice Chair. Vice President Lopez.	01:37:33
	Here and mayor chair President McQueen Lejeune.	01:37:40
	Here, let the record reflect that Member Brown is absent.	01:37:44
	Thank you. So we'll now consider the items on the consent calendar.	01:37:49
	To approve the minutes unless there is a request to.	01:37:53
	Discuss the minutes first.	01:37:57
	Is there a motion and a second?	01:37:59
	So moved.	01:38:02
	2nd.	01:38:03
	Madam Clerk, can we take a vote?	01:38:05
	All in favor, aye?	01:38:07
	All opposed.	01:38:09
	Hearing none motion. Motion passes unanimously with Member Brown absent.	01:38:10
	Great. We'll now move to the public hearing. Madam Clerk, do you have a proof of publication as required by law and a complete	01:38:15
	file of reports and exhibits?	01:38:19
	Yes, Madam Mayor. Great. Will the staff please present the report?	01:38:24
	Yes, thank you.	01:38:29
	So we have a presentation we'll be going through for our second budget workshop.	01:38:32
	Of this year.	01:38:36
	I want to.	01:38:38
	Ask Ashley to join us up at the podium. Ashley, our interim finance director, has been critical on this.	01:38:41
	Budget project.	01:38:48
	And I also want to take a moment before we start to thank all of our department directors for the work that they've done on the	01:38:49
	budget. This is another example where.	01:38:54
	It really took the whole team to pull together and and.	01:38:59
	Tackle this budget. And so we do have, as we know, Fred Camarillo from our public works.	01:39:03
	Department. Uh.	01:39:09
	Gabby Basuah from our Housing and Facilities Department. Tony Stewart from Community Development.	01:39:10
	Chief Federico from our.	01:39:16
	Police Department and Ashley.	01:39:18
	Our finance interim finance director.	01:39:20
	And I hope I didn't forget anybody.	01:39:22
	But so.	01:39:25
	Everybody is.	01:39:27
	Present and available as we go through the budget.	01:39:28
	If there's questions, we're all available to answer those questions.	01:39:32
	This budget workshop's going to look a little different than I think they've looked in the past, I think.	01:39:38
	I'll go through some background, but just very high level before we start is we've basically started with last year's budget and	01:39:44
	asked each department to.	01:39:49
	Go through their budgets and make.	01:39:54
	What we originally started out was a goal of 5% reductions or about $1.3 million.	01:39:56
	As we worked through the budget and we.	01:40:03
	Sort of worked through some of the.	01:40:08
	Updates we had received like things like sales tax.	01:40:13
	Forecast is being adjusted.	01:40:18
	Various items like that, we realized that we needed to make further reductions. So I want to thank.	01:40:21
	Again, all those departments because we pulled together and essentially with those reductions and.	01:40:27
	The freezing of the positions that were currently posted.	01:40:32
	We we ended up.	01:40:37
	Accomplishing uh.	01:40:39
	A little more than $2,000,000 in savings, which is a.	01:40:41
	Not easy to do, particularly after we had already.	01:40:44
	Made revisions.	01:40:48
	About a year, maybe 18 months ago where we had already made some significant reductions, so.	01:40:50
	It was a difficult process this year.	01:40:55
	But we'll, we'll go through this year's budget with sort of like I said that structure being.	01:41:00
	Sort of starting with this year's, you know, the the most recent year budget and then identifying what we are proposing to remove	01:41:08
	or reduce from that budget. So.	01:41:13
	So just as a starting point.	01:41:19
	This is workshop 2 are in our first budget workshop. It was much more high level big picture than the second workshop will be.	01:41:21
	We talked about at that time trying to.	01:41:29
	Really figure out.	01:41:32
	High level What is?	01:41:35
	The city's goal What is a sustainable budget?	01:41:37
	There's been.	01:41:41
	Sort of ebbs and flows and we had some.	01:41:41
	Unique situations like.	01:41:44
	Being one of the first cities that had cannabis.	01:41:46
	Dispensaries open up and so.	01:41:49
	When you look back our.	01:41:51
	Revenues.	01:41:54
	Have really fluctuated in the past and so.	01:41:56
	We talked in the last meeting about, you know, what should our standard sustainable budget be? What should the goal be?	01:41:59
	And we had identified that and that.	01:42:05
	Was.	01:42:09
	We'll get to the specifics, but we had identified as.	01:42:11
	Target goal and that's the goal we worked towards in making those reductions to match those revenues.	01:42:15
	Secondly, we talked a lot at that meeting about.	01:42:22
	Sort of the next phase, the next six months, the next year being a phase of where we're all going to hear the word uncertainty.	01:42:26
	Quite a bit.	01:42:35
	We were A few of us were invited to attend the ports.	01:42:37
	World Trade Center Event Day and attended, and we noted that the word of the day there also seemed to be uncertainty. It seems to	01:42:42
	be catching on that.	01:42:46
	That is.	01:42:51
	What people are expecting over the next year.	01:42:52
	So we want to make sure that we're preparing for uncertainty, but not overreacting and not.	01:42:56
	Making.	01:43:04
	Unreasonable reductions, but trying to focus on reasonable reductions to get prepared for that.	01:43:06
	Uncertainty.	01:43:12
	And then the last note there at the bottom is just.	01:43:13
	That because of that, we are taking reasonable steps, but we expect.	01:43:16
	To have more budget adjustment conversations during the fiscal year depending on what happens.	01:43:21
	And whether?	01:43:27
	Revenues. Umm.	01:43:29
	Come in better than expected or worse than expected. It's just a year that we expect.	01:43:31
	To make adjustments throughout the year.	01:43:36
	So as we talked about last.	01:43:41
	Last meeting trying to sort of.	01:43:45
	Identify what a reasonable budget is.	01:43:47
	We put this chart together and I think from this chart it's.	01:43:50
	A little more clear of what I think we expect.	01:43:54
	This chart shows.	01:43:58
	The last two years, in the next two years and what we expect with revenues.	01:44:00
	I think.	01:44:04
	The word I would use with those revenues is flat.	01:44:05
	Over the last two years.	01:44:09
	Revenues of 27.23 million and 27.58 very flat, just a couple $100,000 difference.	01:44:11
	And then what we're expecting over the next two years is just more.	01:44:18
	Flat revenues with just minor increases.	01:44:21
	Of about a couple $100,000 each year.	01:44:25
	Mostly, umm.	01:44:28
	That's probably going to be attributable to the.	01:44:29
	Property tax, which kind of continues to increase at a steady pace until something major changes there.	01:44:32
	So, so we think that's our reasonable.	01:44:39
	Stable target that we'll be trying to match our expenses to.	01:44:42
	What the expenses show is a little different. It shows the challenge that we've had of in 2324, we.	01:44:47
	Made reductions to try to.	01:44:53
	Match our revenues.	01:44:55
	But by the next year, just.	01:44:58
	Without adding anything, our costs increase.	01:45:00
	With negotiated pay increases and cost of.	01:45:03
	Materials and equipment and contracts going up.	01:45:07
	And so we had to make reductions in this first year.	01:45:10
	And then we what we expect is that to be a continuous battle of.	01:45:15
	Making reductions and then costs going up. So that's that's been a challenge.	01:45:19
	That.	01:45:26
	That we've seen.	01:45:28
	And so.	01:45:30
	In the below chart.	01:45:31
	I think a couple key things there is that chart shows what?	01:45:33
	Fund balances.	01:45:37
	Our general fund fund balance and so we talked a little bit at the last meeting about.	01:45:40
	A lot of the reductions we've made so far is to make sure that we have the padding of that fund balance, that we're not dipping	01:45:46
	into it for as long as possible and that it's there to.	01:45:50
	To be able to react to.	01:45:54
	Economic uncertainty.	01:45:56
	And potential issues.	01:45:58
	So as of June 30th, 2025, that fund balance should be at about $7.5 million.	01:45:59
	And what this chart shows then is that after.	01:46:06
	The 2025 revenues and expenditures.	01:46:09
	Which we?	01:46:13
	Proposed to be balanced.	01:46:15
	And then?	01:46:18
	It gets a little complicated, but because we're reducing our.	01:46:20
	Expenditures.	01:46:24
	It actually means that we have.	01:46:26
	Sort of a surplus in our emergency reserve and so that surplus.	01:46:30
	Since it's six months of our operations actually goes.	01:46:35
	The reserve goes down and the.	01:46:40
	Reduction actually means $1,000,000 goes back into the fund balance.	01:46:43
	And then that's offset by the capital improvement projects of about $600,000.	01:46:48
	So we'd end that year actually with.	01:46:53
	The fund balance going up to $8 million.	01:46:57
	Really, just because that emergency reserve money moves from the emergency reserve to our.	01:47:01
	Unassigned fund balance.	01:47:06
	Which is good, but then you can see.	01:47:08
	On year 2.	01:47:10
	Kind of fast forwarding.	01:47:12
	That, umm.	01:47:14
	It drops back down to about $6.8 million because that year.	01:47:15
	There is a deficit in Year 2 of the budget.	01:47:20
	That we're proposing to be covered with that fund balance. So essentially the extra.	01:47:23
	Fund balance.	01:47:29
	That can, the extra money that can.	01:47:31
	Roll into the fund balance in year one will rollback out in year 2 to cover.	01:47:34
	The the gap in year 2 so.	01:47:38
	So very simply.	01:47:41
	We've tried to put together.	01:47:45
	A balanced budget, even though I think, I still think we have work to do structurally to make sure that.	01:47:47
	In future years, because the challenge is Year 2.	01:47:53
	Does.	01:47:57
	End up in a deficit that's covered by that fund balance but.	01:47:59
	And then?	01:48:03
	Moving forward.	01:48:05
	That gap could get bigger and bigger unless we keep making adjustments to to stay balanced.	01:48:06
	The other thing about that too I want to note because.	01:48:12
	You know, normally I wouldn't recommend adopting a budget with the deficit in year 2.	01:48:15
	But uh.	01:48:20
	There's also some other.	01:48:20
	Things that we expect to happen.	01:48:23
	We know that we've we have some things like some pending retirements and things.	01:48:25
	That umm uh.	01:48:29
	Will probably happen during year one that then will.	01:48:31
	That then we'll roll into.	01:48:36
	Savings for future years. So there are some.	01:48:39
	Steps will continue to take to get balanced in those future years.	01:48:45
	And so that last chart I just showed kind of showed the detail, but at a simple glance, the unassigned fund balance.	01:48:52
	Which would be estimated at 7.5 million.	01:48:59
	On June 30th of this year.	01:49:03
	Like I said, would grow because of that.	01:49:05
	Emergency.	01:49:08
	Funding reduction.	01:49:09
	But then.	01:49:11
	It drops to balance the budget in that second year. So you can see sort of.	01:49:12
	You know.	01:49:17
	From 7.5 million to 6.8 million in two years.	01:49:19
	And that's really important because.	01:49:23
	We said this.	01:49:27
	At the last meeting.	01:49:29
	If we hadn't made the reductions we had made and we didn't make these additional reductions.	01:49:31
	We would be.	01:49:36
	Depleting fund balance.	01:49:38
	Before June 30th of 2027 so.	01:49:39
	The fact that we end up at June 30th with $6.8 million in fund balance.	01:49:42
	Means that we've really.	01:49:48
	Done a lot to.	01:49:50
	Be better prepared for that economic uncertainty or potential problems down the road.	01:49:51
	Yeah.	01:50:00
	So are you Umm.	01:50:02
	As you go through those three years and your revenues are flat?	01:50:03
	So any uptick?	01:50:08
	In economic uncertainty.	01:50:10
	Be reflected very positively.	01:50:13
	In other words, if if suddenly.	01:50:16
	Things start shaping up.	01:50:18
	Revenue started ticking up a little bit.	01:50:20
	Yeah, I think.	01:50:22
	This is our best guess at this point, but any major changes?	01:50:25
	You know, if the economic uncertainty turns into either certainty, good or bad, it's going to change.	01:50:29
	This this is.	01:50:35
	Sort of assuming.	01:50:37
	It's our best effort to sort of assume what would happen if there weren't any major changes that.	01:50:39
	That we.	01:50:44
	Aware of at this point.	01:50:46
	For that answer the question, yeah, I just want to so.	01:50:53
	We're not presenting A rosy revenue picture. We're keeping it flat.	01:50:57
	And that's.	01:51:03
	What they call very conservative.	01:51:05
	Budgeting. In other words, we're we're, we're not.	01:51:07
	We're just keeping it flat even though it.	01:51:10
	May tick up.	01:51:14
	Even in the.	01:51:15
	Not the worst of the times, but.	01:51:17
	I would say that it's a conservative budget, but not a very conservative budget. Could it be worse? Yes.	01:51:20
	And I think.	01:51:27
	That goes back to that message we keep.	01:51:30
	Giving of.	01:51:32
	You know, we could try to make all the reductions that we might need to be prepared for the worst case scenario a year from now.	01:51:33
	But uh.	01:51:40
	Again, going back to that word, uncertain.	01:51:41
	Our recommendation is don't.	01:51:44
	Don't plan for the.	01:51:46
	Don't make.	01:51:48
	Permanent reductions that you can't undo for the worst case scenario that might not happen.	01:51:49
	But be very prepared to react to that worst case scenario if it happens.	01:51:54
	So not rosy, but.	01:51:59
	Not worst case scenario either, so.	01:52:02
	Yeah, so.	01:52:06
	I guess a good example would be like you guys were forecasting property tax flat at 2%, correct?	01:52:08
	I mean, we're still seeing housing sales.	01:52:15
	Slower but.	01:52:18
	They're still happening and.	01:52:19
	The prices are still elevated so.	01:52:21
	You know, again, it's.	01:52:24
	It's a very conservative.	01:52:25
	Proposed estimates which are good I think.	01:52:29
	Going from 7.4 million?	01:52:35
	In operating funds to 6.8 in year 2.	01:52:38
	That's not bad.	01:52:41
	Yeah. So good job to the staff. Yeah, thank you.	01:52:42
	Back over to you.	01:52:46
	OK, so.	01:52:47
	That was all general fund related and we will still have some more conversation, but we also wanted to just highlight quickly the	01:52:50
	utility enterprise funds.	01:52:54
	Utilities, including our water fund, our wastewater fund and our solid waste fund, and these are the funds that pay for those	01:52:57
	services, water service, wastewater and solid waste.	01:53:02
	And we've talked a little bit recently, the council gave staff authorization to move forward with the rate study and and we've	01:53:07
	issued our.	01:53:11
	Request for proposals for.	01:53:16
	An expert to do that.	01:53:18
	But we wanted to show why we're.	01:53:20
	Having that conversation.	01:53:23
	We talked when we.	01:53:25
	Went through that process we talked about.	01:53:27
	Water had been the.	01:53:29
	Fund that had done.	01:53:31
	The rates.	01:53:32
	Had looked at the rates most recently.	01:53:34
	So that's reflected here where you could see that that is the fund that actually has.	01:53:36
	Some fund balance.	01:53:41
	You can see that.	01:53:43
	I think you can see that it's declining overall.	01:53:46
	And then I think one key point there is we are doing our water master plan that's going to have all of the projects that we need	01:53:50
	to do in the water division. And so we think that will be a further pressure on that water fund.	01:53:56
	But.	01:54:03
	But that fund is.	01:54:04
	You know, umm.	01:54:07
	Not.	01:54:08
	The most concerning?	01:54:10
	Fund the you can see what the wastewater fund that that.	01:54:13
	Is declining each year and it's only got a couple $1,000,000 left in that fund.	01:54:18
	And then obviously the most concerning is solid waste, which has less than $1,000,000 in that fund.	01:54:22
	And at the end of June 30th, 2026 would have.	01:54:27
	$55,000 in that fund.	01:54:31
	And at the end of 2027, it would, there would not be funding left in that fund, which really means that it becomes another drain	01:54:33
	on the general fund because the general fund will have to subsidize it, which would be another.	01:54:40
	Challenge to staying balanced.	01:54:46
	So we wanted to illustrate that when we talk about why we're looking at the rates, it's because the solid waste funds.	01:54:49
	The solid waste fund primarily, but we want to look at all of them and make sure, but the solid waste fund.	01:54:57
	Isn't going to sustain itself unless we make some adjustments to it.	01:55:03
	So that.	01:55:09
	Is just a little bit on the enterprise funds and the enterprise funds are also.	01:55:11
	Relevant when we talk about CIP, Fred showed that list of all the projects that Public Works has.	01:55:15
	And.	01:55:20
	It's a good thing, but.	01:55:22
	But we have to be aware of this.	01:55:25
	That.	01:55:26
	We don't actually have many general fund projects this year and so the over the next two years. So the CIP shouldn't really.	01:55:28
	Be a big drain on the general fund.	01:55:35
	But we do have many enterprise funds and other funded projects.	01:55:37
	And so as long as they have the funding, that's great. But.	01:55:43
	Then when you look and you see, for example, solid waste, you know the funding level it has.	01:55:46
	That could be a concern as well.	01:55:51
	So we're doing that rate study and we'll.	01:55:54
	We'll be bringing that back to council throughout the year.	01:55:57
	OK. So with regard to rate studies moving forward, are we going to?	01:56:01
	Have a policy that.	01:56:05
	To every two years do a rate study or are we going to implement a COLA adjustment every year? Do we have a COLA adjustment every	01:56:07
	year or?	01:56:11
	And when was the last time we did a rate study?	01:56:16
	Yeah, that we've talked about.	01:56:19
	How we need?	01:56:21
	Be better on that. Yeah, there's been, there's a couple things that we're gonna recommend.	01:56:22
	General best practice would be.	01:56:27
	Go through the process every five years.	01:56:30
	Even if you're not increasing rates, at least go through the process and make sure that they can cover all of their costs.	01:56:32
	But one thing that cities.	01:56:39
	Do as well as.	01:56:42
	Is that when they increase the rates, they actually usually have language that says that the city can pass through?	01:56:44
	Rate increases that other agencies.	01:56:50
	Bill us for SO for example.	01:56:53
	If another agency you know adds on a fee for.	01:56:55
	I you know the.	01:57:01
	Food waste. Or you know, whatever it is.	01:57:03
	Then having language so that we can pass that through because it's not something we're choosing to do, but somebody, you know,	01:57:07
	somebody has to pay for it. And if it's not getting passed through, it means all the taxpayers are paying for.	01:57:13
	Each person's.	01:57:19
	Bill, which is not appropriate.	01:57:21
	And so we want to make sure that that we include language like that in the past.	01:57:24
	We haven't included that language and so if somebody added a fee on in the middle of the.	01:57:29
	Process. We just had to eat that fee essentially so.	01:57:34
	So we'll be looking at trying to come up with that.	01:57:38
	That probably that five year standard with that language that allows us to pass through costs when they get.	01:57:41
	Charged us.	01:57:47
	Is inflation a pass through cost?	01:57:50
	It could be in certain circumstances, like for example, I think one example of where this was a problem for us is for example, if	01:57:52
	Callegus is selling us water and they increase their rates.	01:57:57
	Because they're increasing it because of inflation and colas and everything else.	01:58:03
	But if we don't have that language, then then.	01:58:07
	We end up.	01:58:11
	Potentially eating that cost.	01:58:12
	Go ahead, Mayor Pro Tem.	01:58:17
	Do we? I know we use most.	01:58:18
	Most of our water comes from United Water.	01:58:21
	Which is the cheapest?	01:58:23
	Do we review their?	01:58:26
	Their board meeting minutes.	01:58:28
	Because I did attend one of their.	01:58:30
	Field trips. And they were.	01:58:35
	Speaking as if rates were going up.	01:58:39
	So I was just curious, do they present?	01:58:42
	How are we?	01:58:45
	Communicating with them.	01:58:46
	We have a few ways and.	01:58:47
	One is.	01:58:50
	A few of us will get sort of updates from United and Cayegas and so we will get notified that.	01:58:53
	That they're, you know, considering a rate increase and, you know.	01:59:01
	Or whatever their.	01:59:06
	Proposing at the time.	01:59:07
	So that does come through the city. Typically we get notification of that and then I think last year even we made sure to.	01:59:09
	Post public notice of that as well, because.	01:59:17
	It's a 218 process where people can protest the increase.	01:59:20
	So, so we try to make sure we're aware.	01:59:25
	Monitoring it and that we're making people aware when it's happening.	01:59:29
	Any other questions?	01:59:34
	Get back over to you.	01:59:36
	OK. And so that's all background and.	01:59:39
	Big picture.	01:59:42
	The next couple slides are going to be.	01:59:44
	Now you know what?	01:59:47
	Reductions were proposed by.	01:59:48
	Across the departments.	01:59:51
	So again, sort of if you keep in mind, it's like starting at the level of service that we currently have.	01:59:53
	And then?	02:00:01
	These are the reductions that are being proposed from.	02:00:02
	From prior budget.	02:00:06
	And so.	02:00:08
	Just to be clear. So the amount being.	02:00:09
	The amount that's listed on these slides is the amount that we're proposing reducing.	02:00:11
	It's not the total amount.	02:00:16
	And.	02:00:19
	We were trying to keep it.	02:00:20
	Simple, but they're, you know they're they're.	02:00:21
	There's benefits to either way, but we were just trying to keep the presentation very simple, so we don't want to.	02:00:25
	Bombard people with information and so.	02:00:31
	So.	02:00:34
	We went through department by department.	02:00:35
	I'll try to summarize, but we have the lists of everything that's being reduced.	02:00:38
	But most are a lot of things are things looking at things like contracts that we have.	02:00:41
	And trying to reduce those contracts, looking at supply budgets.	02:00:47
	Training and travel budgets. Subscriptions for items, Printing services.	02:00:53
	In administration, this is probably administration specific, but reducing.	02:00:58
	Some budget.	02:01:03
	For recruitments, for example.	02:01:04
	And so.	02:01:08
	We did our best to try to find those types of reductions that wouldn't.	02:01:11
	Really impact.	02:01:15
	Residents at the service level.	02:01:17
	Level umm.	02:01:19
	And uh.	02:01:20
	And so.	02:01:21
	In the administration department, for example, most of the reductions are of that level.	02:01:24
	I think.	02:01:31
	For example, the the largest reduction proposed was the reduction in the specialized legal services contracts.	02:01:32
	And I think a lot of these are those contracts and subscriptions.	02:01:40
	So I won't go through.	02:01:44
	Each item.	02:01:47
	But if there's any questions about any.	02:01:49
	I can answer those.	02:01:52
	Are there any questions on any of?	02:01:59
	These.	02:02:01
	Sure. Yeah, just I didn't see this when I was reviewing the budget. What are we going to do without Zoom?	02:02:05
	Where are we getting have?	02:02:10
	We're going to move to Microsoft Teams, yes. OK, yeah. And so that's that's exactly it is that with our new.	02:02:12
	Microsoft Office.	02:02:19
	Platform. We have Teams for free so we can eliminate our Zoom subscription.	02:02:20
	Yeah, I I don't see, I had a couple of questions. So the.	02:02:26
	Zenefits is the.	02:02:30
	Fight for the SO.	02:02:32
	Is there another way that employees will be able to? Yeah, and a lot of it was that and I want to thank our staff for.	02:02:34
	For these types of items where?	02:02:41
	We were looking at making a change to how we did things in in some cases.	02:02:43
	Made it happen quicker so that we could reduce the contract and so we have a new program.	02:02:48
	That, uh.	02:02:53
	HR's utilizing and so the Zenefits tool can be eliminated without and we'd still have a way to get information out to employees	02:02:54
	regarding HR benefits. OK. And the other one that I don't see on here was the extension of contracts.	02:03:02
	Computers from three years to five years with implication of that, Yeah. And so I think that might be on.	02:03:10
	Yeah, it might be on another slide, but yes, that is.	02:03:18
	There are, you know, we were looking for.	02:03:21
	You know, kind of no brainers, but.	02:03:25
	We ran out of those and.	02:03:27
	So then we had to really make some difficult decisions and I think one of the.	02:03:29
	Difficult ones was.	02:03:33
	The cities had a goal of getting to a three-year computer replacement.	02:03:35
	Goal, I don't think we had ever reached it, but we did have to sort of stop and say, you know.	02:03:39
	It was a good goal would we could afford it, but now?	02:03:46
	You know, umm.	02:03:49
	We're moving back to the five year goal.	02:03:50
	It just means you know if.	02:03:52
	It just means people are going to have to use their current computers longer, but we don't think that it's.	02:03:56
	Detrimental.	02:04:03
	At that point, So thank you. I didn't know that you had our you had not got to the three years. Yeah.	02:04:05
	Yeah. So there's a few items and I'll try to mention them, but there's a few items when we go through here where it was like we	02:04:09
	had a good goal to get to this point and it's like, well, we're just gonna have to go with good enough.	02:04:14
	For a couple years.	02:04:18
	Yeah, there are some items on here that I didn't notice in the.	02:04:22
	Staff report.	02:04:26
	I imagine you'll talk.	02:04:28
	I think you identified the community events in the staff report, unless it's changed at all.	02:04:30
	Well.	02:04:36
	It's broken out. We tried to like kind of summarize it in the presentation.	02:04:37
	So it's in the staff report, Yes. OK. So there's nothing new. Yeah, since.	02:04:43
	Oh, no, yeah. So everything that we're proposing should be in the staff report. What about the county election expenses? What's	02:04:48
	the impact that?	02:04:51
	That's going to have. So there's an example where in past years.	02:04:54
	The city would.	02:04:59
	Budget for an election every year.	02:05:01
	But we really only have elections every other year.	02:05:03
	There we just.	02:05:08
	We don't expect to have a city election.	02:05:09
	This year.	02:05:13
	25 to 26.	02:05:15
	So we took that money out.	02:05:17
	If, for example, the Council.	02:05:20
	Decided there was something important that they needed to put on the ballot. Then we would just have to tell you that.	02:05:22
	We need to.	02:05:28
	Find funding to pay for it.	02:05:29
	Basically.	02:05:31
	So that's an example where and actually it's a really good explanation for why on year 2.	02:05:34
	Some costs go up and because Year 2 we expect.	02:05:40
	To have an election, so that funding has to be in year 2, but it's not in year 1.	02:05:43
	All right. Very good. Thank you.	02:05:47
	So that was administration which was includes city managers, finance, HR, IT.	02:05:53
	The next slide includes both finance and community and economic development.	02:05:59
	And finance?	02:06:04
	And in the staff report, it's explained a little bit more, but we are proposing restructuring.	02:06:06
	The department to be able to eliminate.	02:06:12
	The deputy director position and reclassify a manager position to.	02:06:14
	To a.	02:06:19
	A specialist position.	02:06:21
	That position.	02:06:24
	Is currently vacant.	02:06:25
	Right, the Manager 1.	02:06:27
	The manager, yes.	02:06:29
	OK, so that.	02:06:31
	That reorganization, restructuring of the finance department would.	02:06:33
	Result in $184,000 in savings.	02:06:38
	This one is an interesting one, the pass through of credit card fees.	02:06:42
	A lot of cities kind of similar to the conversation earlier. A lot of cities adopted language where.	02:06:46
	When people use their credit cards, and especially as rewards, credit cards are used more and more. And the fees.	02:06:53
	To you know, it's what people have seen all around where restaurants now a lot will will say, you know, minimum transaction or you	02:07:00
	know, not allowing certain credit cards.	02:07:05
	But uh.	02:07:11
	Since now those credit cards have higher fees to.	02:07:12
	The uh.	02:07:16
	Agency using it. A lot of cities have put language.	02:07:17
	Adopted language saying that those fees.	02:07:19
	Need to be passed back to.	02:07:22
	The person using it.	02:07:25
	So you know, if you're using your credit card, it's an additional 3% service fee or something like that.	02:07:28
	And so we're going to be.	02:07:33
	Proposing some some.	02:07:35
	Language like that and so that.	02:07:37
	It adds up. As you can see, the credit card fees are not insignificant.	02:07:39
	So that'd be $71,000 in savings.	02:07:43
	For Community and economic development.	02:07:47
	The largest reduction is related to our Community Development Director. Mr. Stewart has announced he's retiring and so	02:07:50
	congratulations to him.	02:07:56
	And so we're going to look at.	02:08:02
	Freezing the position and an interim solution that would.	02:08:05
	Result in a.	02:08:10
	Cost savings of about $200,000.	02:08:11
	And then the other reductions in that department.	02:08:15
	There really is not.	02:08:18
	Significant costs other than just the positions that exist and that are filled.	02:08:20
	So the other reductions are very small amounts as you can see you know $500 here are there in reductions in.	02:08:24
	Travel, training and supplies and memberships.	02:08:30
	Yeah.	02:08:34
	Yes. So I have some concerns about the director position, especially in light of the fact that we've.	02:08:37
	Need to.	02:08:45
	Implement.	02:08:46
	Economic.	02:08:47
	Development plan, especially in light of this budget.	02:08:49
	What's what are your plans for the?	02:08:53
	Whoever takes the directors place and it won't be a.	02:08:58
	Director, it'll be probably a contract employee or something else, but umm.	02:09:02
	How?	02:09:07
	They're going to be equipped to help us.	02:09:08
	Implement the economic development plan. Yeah, we're working on it is probably the best answer, I think.	02:09:11
	We you know the day that.	02:09:17
	That I found out our current directors retiring.	02:09:21
	The immediate thought was that we.	02:09:25
	You know, fill it right and then.	02:09:27
	Then we start going through the budget and it's like, well, we've.	02:09:29
	Have to find savings somewhere. We can either freeze the current positions or we have to have more difficult conversations.	02:09:31
	And so it's definitely not going to be easy to freeze that position. It's not something that we want to do.	02:09:37
	But umm.	02:09:43
	We're gonna freeze it. I've already talked to.	02:09:45
	Mr. Stewart, and we're gonna.	02:09:48
	Follow up with the team about some ideas that.	02:09:51
	That we can use in the interim.	02:09:55
	And then I think when we get back to the freeze.	02:09:57
	There's going to be a couple of freezes we talk about.	02:10:00
	Is uh.	02:10:02
	One of the.	02:10:03
	Points I want to make is that.	02:10:04
	What we're trying to do, and it's not easy, but we're trying when we get a vacancy to freeze that.	02:10:07
	And then as we get other vacancies, because right now we just need that savings.	02:10:14
	When we get other vacancies, then we'll have the opportunity to say, OK, we're going to unfreeze this position and freeze this	02:10:18
	one.	02:10:21
	Instead. And so it's just going to be constant prioritization.	02:10:25
	But knowing we have to save X many dollars from from freezes.	02:10:29
	So right now.	02:10:33
	Those are the ones that are vacant, so those are the ones getting frozen. But if some of those other.	02:10:35
	Things happen like we've talked about, you know, different retirements or vacancies that we're expecting.	02:10:40
	Then as soon as one of those happens that that is a lower priority, we would.	02:10:47
	Prioritize filling the director position so.	02:10:52
	I wouldn't necessarily say that I expect this to be frozen.	02:10:55
	Long term, but I think it's the first step while we while we go through that process.	02:11:00
	OK, I have one question.	02:11:08
	On the economic development plan.	02:11:11
	It concerns me a little bit that.	02:11:14
	I mean, is there?	02:11:18
	Is there a if if implemented?	02:11:21
	Does it automatically lead to increased revenue?	02:11:25
	I mean.	02:11:28
	Because it just seems like.	02:11:30
	Tying the director with the economic development plan together.	02:11:33
	I don't see the connection for increased revenues and.	02:11:36
	And I say that because.	02:11:40
	Our city is.	02:11:41
	Practically built out.	02:11:43
	Yeah, I think.	02:11:45
	I think that.	02:11:47
	As we.	02:11:48
	Move forward.	02:11:49
	There's going to be sometimes where.	02:11:51
	I I think we're all going to pitch in to do some of the economic development and those types of things.	02:11:55
	Think we're gonna have to look at low cost?	02:12:01
	There, there are on our economic development plan, there's some low cost items and then there's some expensive items. And so it	02:12:03
	might be a case where this year.	02:12:07
	Where where you know we might prioritize the lower cost items as an example, so.	02:12:12
	So yeah, I wanted to have the record reflect that. Member Blackwell.	02:12:20
	Had to leave but we still do have a quorum so we can continue. Thank you.	02:12:26
	Any other questions? Yeah, if I could just respond, Hernandez.	02:12:33
	Line of discussion. I was just.	02:12:37
	I looked. I was looking through the line item budget here.	02:12:38
	And there's a item here called.	02:12:42
	Other tax Tourism Tourism Business Improvement District.	02:12:46
	Which I think would be an item for discussion later on down the road on how.	02:12:51
	I don't know that we actually have such a district. There's only.	02:12:56
	$1000 in there, so maybe you know that's.	02:13:00
	There seems to me to be some potential for growth and some ideas around how we might build that.	02:13:04
	Dollar amount.	02:13:11
	Plant some seeds in that tourism.	02:13:15
	Business.	02:13:18
	Improvement District, wherever it may be.	02:13:19
	I think.	02:13:22
	One of the things we said last meeting we didn't say up front. This meeting is right now major focus is on reducing expenses	02:13:24
	because that's the thing that we can really control immediately and kind of get in front of.	02:13:30
	But uh.	02:13:36
	In the next.	02:13:37
	Year, another focus is going to be on looking at revenues and.	02:13:38
	How to pay for things. So for example, coming up with some ideas on how to pay for.	02:13:44
	For economic development projects and things like that, so.	02:13:50
	So that is sort of.	02:13:53
	It's something that we.	02:13:56
	No, we need to look at is how to increase revenues and particularly for certain items that we need to do.	02:13:58
	Great. Thank you.	02:14:07
	Whatever. So the next slide is the police department's reductions in the in the staff report, the Police Department spread up.	02:14:08
	Spread up through several divisions.	02:14:19
	So this slide, it tries to pull them all into one slide.	02:14:22
	We have the.	02:14:26
	The major item is $181,000 delay of the Tyler CAD upgrade.	02:14:27
	This is similar.	02:14:34
	Cities are facing challenges with these types of upgrades.	02:14:35
	Across the board and paying for them, but.	02:14:40
	An easy example is like the Microsoft Office platform that that cities use where it used to be if you have.	02:14:43
	You know 50 computers. You buy 50 copies of Microsoft Office and you own those copies.	02:14:50
	And now everybody's forcing you into the subscription model and you need to.	02:14:54
	Move to the cloud and pay a monthly subscription and kind of pay for it in perpetuity.	02:14:59
	And, umm.	02:15:06
	So the Tyler system is going through the Tyler CAD system is going through a similar change slash upgrade.	02:15:07
	We had a.	02:15:14
	Project proposed a couple years back to move to that upgrade.	02:15:15
	And.	02:15:20
	Essentially.	02:15:22
	It hasn't occurred yet, but we're saying basically delay it.	02:15:24
	At this point.	02:15:28
	The deadline on it isn't.	02:15:31
	Eminent.	02:15:33
	I guess it depends how you define eminent. I think that the deadline is a few years out.	02:15:35
	4-4 or five years out so.	02:15:39
	So basically we were just saying.	02:15:42
	You know, basically proposing postponing it.	02:15:44
	For now.	02:15:47
	So yeah, Councilmember.	02:15:48
	Yes, I just want to know what the impact of that delay will mean for.	02:15:50
	Dispatch, yeah, I think the main impact is.	02:15:54
	That.	02:15:59
	Really, it's a technical impact, the.	02:16:01
	Current system that's in use where they have their own servers in a closet in the Police Department is going to remain and they	02:16:06
	aren't doing the change over into the cloud.	02:16:10
	Does it mean you know the program stops working? No.	02:16:18
	And you know, and I would point out, I think.	02:16:21
	Some people say there's benefits to either way. Some people prefer to have the servers at the station, some people prefer it in	02:16:24
	the cloud.	02:16:27
	I do prefer it in the cloud because when you have these programs in there in the cloud.	02:16:30
	And it's sort of on the vendor to support it versus on us to support it.	02:16:35
	But umm.	02:16:39
	But for now.	02:16:40
	It's the question is, can we afford to go to the to the cloud And so we're saying to put that on.	02:16:42
	On hold until again we are able to do some things that umm.	02:16:47
	That allow us to pay for.	02:16:52
	OK, very good. Thank you, Councilmember Perez.	02:16:54
	Yes.	02:16:56
	Where did it go? PD patrol, training and travel.	02:17:00
	So I'm assuming that's not.	02:17:03
	Talking about required.	02:17:06
	Post required training.	02:17:08
	It shouldn't be because it's not reducing all of the training and travel, it's just reducing a portion of the training and travel.	02:17:12
	OK, so.	02:17:19
	And uniform invests. Are you talking about the bulletproof vest?	02:17:20
	I think they got new ones some time ago anyway.	02:17:24
	Yeah. And my understanding and I know.	02:17:27
	We have Chief and Commander here.	02:17:31
	Is we're reducing these?	02:17:33
	Budgets, but that we still have the funding we need to.	02:17:35
	To get by essentially.	02:17:39
	OK. Thank you.	02:17:41
	So I will highlight a few more on this one because I think they are sort of eye-catching ones that people have questions about.	02:17:43
	So after that delay of the Tyler upgrade.	02:17:50
	Again, not because the the current vacant positions were not important, it's just because they were the current vacant positions.	02:17:53
	We proposed freezing those vacant positions and that was how we.	02:18:00
	Bridge that last gap and got balanced. So one of those positions is a vacant police officer position.	02:18:05
	Again.	02:18:11
	Would we keep it?	02:18:12
	Vacant permanently.	02:18:13
	That wouldn't be the plan. The plan would be as another position.	02:18:15
	Becomes available. We prioritize just like we said with the community development director position, but they're just the	02:18:20
	positions that are vacant now.	02:18:23
	The police patrol overtime.	02:18:28
	We propose reducing that one $64,000.	02:18:31
	It's gonna be tough to to match that, but.	02:18:34
	The logic behind.	02:18:38
	That is, that we are actually.	02:18:40
	Very staffed compared to where we were a few years ago. I think we currently have.	02:18:42
	Essentially, 22 of the 23 officer positions will be filled for this budget year.	02:18:49
	Knock on wood, as long as somebody doesn't quit tomorrow.	02:18:54
	With those positions failed.	02:19:00
	We are going to do our best to try to keep our overtime costs.	02:19:03
	Reasonable, uh.	02:19:07
	Now that we have.	02:19:09
	You know the.	02:19:10
	People we need.	02:19:11
	Similarly, patrol overtime was reduced support.	02:19:14
	The PD support overtime is reduced not and again with all these not entirely it's.	02:19:18
	Just a portion of.	02:19:25
	The prior budgeted amounts.	02:19:27
	We have currently 2 part-time support services positions in the Police Department.	02:19:30
	So this proposes freezing both of those for $52,000 in savings.	02:19:36
	Delaying a new evidence freezer.	02:19:41
	An additional dispatch console for $26,000.	02:19:44
	And again, the training, travel uniforms, vests and all those things the goal was.	02:19:48
	Make sure we still have enough.	02:19:53
	To give everybody what they need.	02:19:56
	But ask people to.	02:19:58
	I think in particularly with training and travel like looking at trying to do online trainings where we can to save some money and	02:20:00
	those types of things.	02:20:03
	So the extended computer replacement program was going from three-year to five year computer replacement mentioned earlier.	02:20:10
	That's we're doing it across the city, not just in the Police Department, but.	02:20:16
	But it's reflected here.	02:20:20
	Let's see, so more training and travel gear vests.	02:20:24
	How about the elimination of one of the parking vehicle lease I'm sure residents would like?	02:20:29
	Happy to see that.	02:20:34
	What's the implication of that? Yeah, I believe.	02:20:36
	We have 3 currently, three vehicles currently and it's eliminating one to two. But am I right on that?	02:20:40
	That is one that I.	02:20:46
	Let me know that he has an extra CSO vehicle since that spot is.	02:20:48
	Not being filled right now that that vehicle is available for use.	02:20:55
	So rather than lease one.	02:21:00
	He'll be switching over to that OK, repurposing a vehicle.	02:21:02
	So the rest.	02:21:07
	I don't know that there's any questions on.	02:21:11
	I guess the one that might jump out is the tactical launchers and other weapons. Again, the key thing there is.	02:21:14
	It's a pretty small reduction, so it's not eliminating that budget, but it's just reducing the budget by $1000 there.	02:21:19
	So that's the reductions proposed for the Police Department.	02:21:28
	Next slide is public Works and facilities maintenance, now public works.	02:21:34
	Keep in mind.	02:21:38
	They also have enterprise funds, so.	02:21:39
	This is just specifically general fund related items.	02:21:42
	The $92,000 is essentially we have a.	02:21:45
	Couple I think it's almost $300,000 tree trimming.	02:21:50
	Contract. So we would just be proposing reducing $92,000 from that.	02:21:53
	Which would.	02:21:59
	Isn't something.	02:22:02
	There's certain things that I.	02:22:03
	Really strive to do in its St. maintenance, public safety and tree maintenance because I think that those are the ones that we get	02:22:04
	a lot of.	02:22:08
	Questions about a lot of calls about so it's.	02:22:11
	Not something that we take lightly, but.	02:22:15
	We still have contract funding available for tree trimming and we also still.	02:22:19
	And in fact have actually.	02:22:24
	Worked on increasing our capability to be able to do tree trimming internally, so there's.	02:22:26
	That's part of why we're saying we can do spend less of the contract money.	02:22:31
	So, Councilmember Gama, I'd just like to point out on the bright side of palm trees, you did a massive palm tree trimming project.	02:22:36
	A year ago so.	02:22:43
	Yeah, umm.	02:22:45
	The way Palm Creek palm trees grow.	02:22:46
	You know, it'll be several years before you need to dribble again. Yeah. And I want to give credit because I believe on that	02:22:49
	project was a good example where Public Works actually has focused on getting the ability to do some of that work internally as	02:22:54
	well. So that helps us reduce our contract costs.	02:22:59
	So again, talking about freezing vacant positions and not necessarily that the vacant ones aren't necessarily unimportant.	02:23:06
	Street maintenance worker position is currently vacant.	02:23:14
	It's not one that I would another one that I wouldn't wouldn't be my preference to freeze. But right now under this all those	02:23:17
	circumstances that we.	02:23:21
	Talked about earlier, we're talking about freezing that and then as we have other vacancies then we look at filling.	02:23:24
	That position.	02:23:31
	Similarly, the.	02:23:34
	Contracted on call services for traffic engineering.	02:23:35
	I think.	02:23:38
	The best way to explain that one is that we kind of had money in our budget so that if.	02:23:40
	We got calls from people saying, you know, the city needs to add a streetlight in this location or.	02:23:44
	You know, at a median.	02:23:50
	We had some money where we could just have a traffic engineer analyze it.	02:23:51
	We've reduced that.	02:23:55
	So we'll just have to be more.	02:23:57
	We'll have to prioritize which which.	02:24:00
	Areas we look at and which ones we say aren't, we aren't going to look at.	02:24:02
	And if we?	02:24:06
	With all of these.	02:24:08
	Having a need, we can always come back to council and ask.	02:24:10
	To increase it, it's just we'll have to figure out how we're going to pay for it when that happens, so.	02:24:14
	So this proposes reducing the available sort of the available hours that we'd have a contract traffic engineer.	02:24:20
	The emergency pothole repair services is reduced, not eliminated. It's still funded, so we'd still be.	02:24:27
	Doing what we can.	02:24:34
	As well as.	02:24:37
	Kind of with that, the asphalt materials and the streets overtime and standby pay.	02:24:38
	So what that probably means is we still are going to be doing.	02:24:43
	Tahoe repair and emergency repair it might just take.	02:24:48
	You know, uh.	02:24:51
	A day longer.	02:24:53
	Or it might not be.	02:24:54
	You know, on the spot because we might not have.	02:24:56
	We'll still have some budget for it, but in some cases it might be that we don't.	02:25:00
	Have the overtime or the standby if it's not a priority item so.	02:25:04
	So.	02:25:09
	Again, we're really trying to focus on the things that don't impact our service levels at the end of the day.	02:25:10
	I think.	02:25:16
	With this these kinds of reductions.	02:25:19
	There's going to be some impact, but we're trying to have it just be where maybe it just takes a little longer, but it's not that	02:25:21
	we can't do something.	02:25:25
	So, so facilities maintenance.	02:25:29
	There is a contract services.	02:25:32
	Budget. Umm.	02:25:34
	And miscellaneous contract services. So that was proposed to be reduced by $54,000.	02:25:36
	We're eliminating one part time custodian position, but.	02:25:42
	We really have been trying to look for win, win opportunities and so we need.	02:25:46
	We had a vacant full-time custodian position.	02:25:50
	And so we're going to give the opportunity for a part time person to move into a full time position.	02:25:54
	And then eliminate the part time position behind them.	02:26:00
	So again, just trying, we're trying to make sure we aren't balancing the budget on the back of.	02:26:03
	Employees either so.	02:26:08
	Trying to make sure we're doing what we can in those ways and ensuring that we have the service level we need.	02:26:11
	So the 12,500 was a reduction in.	02:26:19
	Funding that had been put in for Thayer Lane, which that project is complete.	02:26:23
	And then $6000 with small equipment, just very miscellaneous small equipment.	02:26:26
	For recreation.	02:26:33
	This one is probably one that would be of more interest to members of the community.	02:26:35
	There's some difficult.	02:26:40
	Recommendations in here?	02:26:42
	But I think we did our best to balance where we're still providing services. It might just be a little bit.	02:26:44
	Less umm.	02:26:50
	Of those.	02:26:52
	And so.	02:26:53
	The museum amount is reduced, but it's reduced because last year more money was put in to get them ready to open.	02:26:54
	So it's basically pulling out the.	02:27:03
	That additional funding that they had gotten to get ready to open since they're open now.	02:27:06
	So it shows up as a reduction, but it's really just sort of like putting them back to the normal funding level.	02:27:11
	Since the grand opening was last year and we're not doing another grand opening.	02:27:16
	We had rented a portable restroom that did not work out at the actually this isn't the museum one.	02:27:22
	I take that back, this is actually.	02:27:29
	Affordable The portable restroom The extra portable restroom that we had rented for the lifeguard program.	02:27:30
	And, umm.	02:27:36
	We're not going to rent that restroom. We're just going to. There's bathrooms at the beach. We just rented them an additional	02:27:38
	portable.	02:27:41
	So that would be removed with that $17,500?	02:27:45
	Probably 1 of the maybe higher visibility ones is the lifeguard program.	02:27:51
	My understanding and some people may have the history more than I do on this, but is that it used to?	02:27:56
	The lifeguard program used to end.	02:28:02
	After Labor Day with the kids going back to school.	02:28:03
	But.	02:28:06
	It's extended.	02:28:07
	Into October in recent years.	02:28:09
	And So what this proposes is pulling it back to Labor Day.	02:28:12
	Which would save about $15,000.	02:28:16
	By having it.	02:28:18
	And on.	02:28:20
	After Labor Day.	02:28:22
	We talked about the credit card processing fees, so that's another $11,000 in recreation. They do a lot of credit card	02:28:24
	transactions.	02:28:28
	The $6500 for Moving in the Park events.	02:28:32
	Is uh.	02:28:36
	Another visible high visibility 1.	02:28:37
	We're proposing.	02:28:39
	Dropping, we had increased to five movie events, movie in the park events and we proposed.	02:28:42
	Dropping it back to three movie in the park events.	02:28:48
	And so that would be a savings about of about $6500.	02:28:52
	The junior lifeguard participant increase of $25.	02:28:56
	So it doesn't really change.	02:29:00
	The activity it's just a.	02:29:03
	Fee increase.	02:29:06
	Would generate 5400.	02:29:07
	Dollars.	02:29:09
	The Boys and Girls Club gym rental.	02:29:11
	Yeah, so we had done the contract with Boys and Girls Club to rent the.	02:29:15
	Provide.	02:29:20
	Evening basketball and then eventually we had added in a day of pickleball to during the cold weather.	02:29:21
	That contract is more than $3500.	02:29:28
	And so.	02:29:31
	I think it's $15,000.	02:29:33
	It's around that, yeah.	02:29:37
	And, umm.	02:29:38
	And so but why it shows $3500 is because?	02:29:39
	By eliminating it.	02:29:44
	In the budget, what we also did was repurpose.	02:29:46
	The $12,000.	02:29:49
	Into covering the cost of the senior exercise program.	02:29:52
	So this is just the difference.	02:29:57
	So adding.	02:30:01
	I just say that to say that.	02:30:03
	So it's really a $15,000 reduction, but it shows up on this list is 3500.	02:30:06
	Dollars, which is the difference?	02:30:13
	And partially, if you recall.	02:30:16
	It's under the Boys and Girls Club Gym is under construction right now.	02:30:20
	And then?	02:30:24
	We had a meeting recently where.	02:30:26
	There was some comments about the Jim.	02:30:30
	Floor and if the gym floor wasn't?	02:30:32
	Remodeled whether we'd continue to do the rental or not so.	02:30:37
	We propose reducing.	02:30:41
	In this budget.	02:30:46
	But that's a.	02:30:47
	That's our recommendation.	02:30:49
	Then the training and travel reduction for recreation, $3000.	02:30:53
	Lifeguard training and travel $2500.	02:30:59
	And then just leases and contracts?	02:31:02
	Training and travel.	02:31:05
	So those.	02:31:08
	Where the difficult slides?	02:31:10
	Difficult reductions department by department.	02:31:13
	Again, I want to acknowledge.	02:31:16
	That every department really looked.	02:31:18
	Closely and made.	02:31:20
	Tough decisions.	02:31:21
	I I can imagine for a recreation person to actually propose.	02:31:23
	You know, umm.	02:31:28
	Reducing some of these programs, it was, it's not what they want to do so.	02:31:31
	So, uh.	02:31:36
	I'm using them as an example, but for all the departments. I know that these were very difficult decisions, but.	02:31:37
	It got us to a point.	02:31:43
	Of being able to be balanced for for.	02:31:45
	For the coming year.	02:31:47
	And so then the last couple slides.	02:31:49
	Kind of tag on to Fred's presentation nightly nicely.	02:31:53
	Because the good news is.	02:31:59
	With a very tight budget.	02:32:01
	We want to make sure we're still doing capital improvement.	02:32:05
	Projects we want to make sure we're still.	02:32:08
	Maintaining what we have.	02:32:11
	Repairing, remodeling, Resurfacing.	02:32:13
	And one thing that I appreciate the Public Works Department and our facilities, housing and Facilities Department did.	02:32:16
	This year was they really looked at projects that can be done.	02:32:23
	Without impacting the general fund.	02:32:27
	And it turns out that we'd have our hands full just with these.	02:32:29
	And to go back to Fred's presentation, that last slide that showed all the projects, the long list of projects that they're going	02:32:32
	to be working on.	02:32:36
	We're able to do those projects with very minimal impact to the general fund.	02:32:40
	And so.	02:32:46
	You can see on this slide out of almost $4.8 million in projects, which is a lot of projects, it's actually.	02:32:48
	More projects than we've gotten done in.	02:32:54
	A lot of prior years, I think maybe the last two years might be the first years we've really gotten that level of projects done.	02:32:57
	So it's still a lot of projects.	02:33:04
	With only a couple of those showing general fund impacts on that.	02:33:06
	On that chart.	02:33:10
	And so these are the projects planned for next year. It's we have some parking lot.	02:33:11
	Resurfacing that we're looking to do.	02:33:17
	We kind of just keep.	02:33:20
	Trying to.	02:33:22
	Get a couple parking lots each year. The beach parking lots this year. Last year it was the library.	02:33:23
	And Bubbling Springs parking lot.	02:33:29
	So we continue that.	02:33:31
	We have a Pearson Rd. storm drain project and the Anacapa storm drain project.	02:33:33
	We're trying to prioritize making sure.	02:33:39
	We're still addressing storm drain issues, especially in light of that recent.	02:33:41
	Historic storm that we had had. We just want to make sure we keep working on those.	02:33:46
	Yeah.	02:33:52
	Is a sidewalk maintenance? Is that a part of one of these budget lines or is it separate?	02:33:54
	I don't.	02:34:03
	I'm trying to look real quick and see if.	02:34:04
	I see any projects that would be and I don't.	02:34:06
	It would be separate if we were just doing stand alone sidewalk.	02:34:09
	Maintenance, I don't think we have it planned.	02:34:13
	No plan. No plan projects. Large projects for sidewalks if there's a small project.	02:34:17
	That's a good point.	02:34:23
	So, you know, so we still have our.	02:34:24
	Our public works department will still be able to address, you know.	02:34:27
	Trip and fall hazards and those types of things as they arise, we just don't have any projects to.	02:34:30
	Really. Install or tear out and replace?	02:34:36
	Huge portions of sidewalks.	02:34:39
	So these are specifically capital improvement.	02:34:42
	Large scale projects.	02:34:45
	So then after.	02:34:48
	The storm drains we have.	02:34:50
	Some Rd. repairs grind and overlays Patterson Rd. Winnie me Bay and St. Surfside Village.	02:34:52
	We still are including some funding, although we I did recommend reducing. We had said we'd put 50,000.	02:34:58
	Aside for speed cushions.	02:35:04
	As long I think literally the language we used when we created that speed cushion policy was as long as the budget could afford	02:35:06
	it.	02:35:09
	And so this year, we're proposing dropping that to $25,000.	02:35:13
	Which I think over the last couple years that would.	02:35:18
	Suffice because we actually haven't had a huge demand for more speed cushions.	02:35:21
	So that's included in the budget.	02:35:26
	Citywide, uh.	02:35:28
	Rapid rectangular, rectangular flashing beacons. Those are those the flashing crosswalk lights.	02:35:29
	We're working on a, I think we got a grant from SKAG to be able to provide those. So that's grant funded that $70,000.	02:35:36
	And then the housing successor agency has a housing fund.	02:35:44
	Our housing successor agency funded project of the 323 C St. remodel project. We have 147,000 in the budget for that.	02:35:49
	Marvista is another housing project so it doesn't impact the general fund with 170,000 in Mar Vista Repairs.	02:35:57
	Our projects.	02:36:05
	And then we have several water main replacements which are charged to the water fund and.	02:36:07
	And, and the water fund has a lot of projects coming up with that water master plan.	02:36:11
	Being complete, so that'll be something considered in that.	02:36:16
	Utility rate increase.	02:36:19
	And the wastewater?	02:36:21
	Operating fund has a sewer lining project, so.	02:36:22
	We definitely have.	02:36:25
	Work to keep us busy. On top of all this, the note on the top notes that the projects that haven't been completed in prior years	02:36:26
	still roll over so.	02:36:30
	We have a long list, it's not just.	02:36:35
	It's not just a year of.	02:36:38
	You know, waiting and seeing we're going to be.	02:36:40
	Focusing on these projects, especially the ones that have their own funding sources, and getting those done.	02:36:43
	Mayor Pro Tem, Yeah, I have.	02:36:49
	Couple questions.	02:36:51
	So we have surplus property. Have we had any inquiries on any of that?	02:36:54
	We are in conversation that we are going to.	02:36:59
	Bring forward to the Council if they decide to move forward on one one of the properties.	02:37:03
	So, but we haven't had conversation on.	02:37:08
	The many others at this point.	02:37:10
	Yeah, yet.	02:37:12
	So I did see on the rec side.	02:37:14
	We were going to lose 2 movie at the beaches or movie at Bubbling Spring.	02:37:17
	If say reach or VFW decide like decided.	02:37:23
	They can take that on.	02:37:28
	For those two missing.	02:37:29
	Events with that the city.	02:37:31
	Consider that.	02:37:33
	Yeah, I think.	02:37:34
	If.	02:37:36
	Reach, for example, came forward and said they wanted to, you know.	02:37:37
	Help cover the cost of one we could always come back to council and.	02:37:40
	Propose adding that.	02:37:45
	I think one conversation we had was that each year there's sort of been one and it's always been like.	02:37:46
	There's one that like the rain hits and everything else and it's like kind of a dud.	02:37:52
	So we had said.	02:37:56
	Planning for three and sort of planning when the in that period where the weather is better, we're not really losing.	02:37:58
	Much, but it is something.	02:38:04
	So if one of those came forward, we could always we could look at that.	02:38:06
	And out of curiosity, do we have any employees that actually take cars home?	02:38:10
	So the city does have some take home vehicles. That's something we've reduced.	02:38:16
	It's something we have addressed and reduced a couple, but we still have.	02:38:22
	Some take home vehicles.	02:38:26
	Like just for our City Council knowledge, can we get a number?	02:38:28
	The reason why?	02:38:34
	Yeah, Yeah. We can provide that.	02:38:36
	OK. Thank you.	02:38:37
	Councilmember Hernandez.	02:38:41
	So I think the council received an e-mail recently from.	02:38:44
	Constituent asking about.	02:38:49
	Possible bike lane along Channel Islands Blvd. I don't know if you saw that.	02:38:52
	So, you know, I anticipate that'll be.	02:38:57
	That could be one as an example of the kind of requests we might field in the next.	02:39:00
	Year.	02:39:05
	Into the future.	02:39:06
	What are we going to do with those kinds of requests considering our?	02:39:08
	Budget situation.	02:39:12
	Yeah. And so I know that request came in today.	02:39:13
	And I think they said they've been requesting it for a decade, I think is what they said. Yeah, I don't know.	02:39:16
	Yeah, so it was the first I had heard of it, but.	02:39:22
	Unfortunately, I think.	02:39:25
	That request a decade ago would have.	02:39:28
	Would have looked a lot different than it does now.	02:39:31
	I think.	02:39:35
	We did receive it today. We haven't replied yet. We'll take a look at what they're requesting, but.	02:39:36
	I think the answer to a lot of people right now is we're going to prioritize everything.	02:39:41
	And uh.	02:39:46
	I think people could see today is there's difficult decisions and one there's.	02:39:47
	They're like I said, we've already made all the easy decisions and now we're down to the really hard ones.	02:39:52
	So when we get requests in, we'll take a look at them if there's something that can be done easily and and.	02:39:58
	You know, using existing resources and everything, we're going to try to respond as best as we can, but.	02:40:04
	At the end of the day, if somebody's asking for a new $1,000,000 project, it's going to have to compete against.	02:40:09
	Every other project, so we can assume you see, you see those emails that come in, right. And so we can assume that you're going to	02:40:14
	follow up on those. OK, great. Can I comment on that? Sure.	02:40:19
	OK, so.	02:40:26
	As a avid mountain biker.	02:40:27
	And I don't ride Rd. bikes anymore because of distracted drivers.	02:40:29
	I actually went down the road.	02:40:34
	And I drove, I drove my bike back and.	02:40:37
	So what you on the southbound of Ventura Rd. there is no bike lane.	02:40:40
	It's because.	02:40:46
	We we have three lanes going out southbound and then we have two lanes coming northbound.	02:40:47
	And we have a huge sidewalk.	02:40:54
	So I could see the concern.	02:40:56
	I know that.	02:40:58
	Separate from this, but.	02:40:59
	I actually did.	02:41:01
	Do Rd. that and it there is there is a hazard.	02:41:04
	We'll take a look at it. We also, I think maybe a month or two ago we had a request from somebody.	02:41:08
	But theirs has a different.	02:41:14
	Complication as they wanted bike lanes on.	02:41:16
	The southbound side.	02:41:19
	Channel Islands, I think it is.	02:41:22
	That was Ricardo Holden.	02:41:24
	Might be.	02:41:26
	And the challenge there is.	02:41:27
	We have the guardrails.	02:41:29
	And so so they had asked.	02:41:31
	You know, if the guardrails ever come out, can we put a bike lane so.	02:41:34
	So we'll try to track those and we'll try to take a look at it and also like.	02:41:36
	Say what might be feasible, what might not be.	02:41:42
	But a lot of those, anything that's really significant cost.	02:41:45
	It's probably going to be.	02:41:48
	Sort of on the.	02:41:50
	You know the future list.	02:41:52
	For lack of a better word.	02:41:53
	Since we're talking.	02:41:55
	Bike lanes I did respond to.	02:41:56
	To the person that emailed us in the.	02:41:59
	Let me know if we're brown acting.	02:42:03
	I know we're getting close, but.	02:42:06
	In terms of a budget.	02:42:07
	In terms of.	02:42:09
	Having a bike lane for the sake of having a bike lane and not.	02:42:11
	Really looking at the safety because it's crazy if you're going to ride a bike down.	02:42:16
	Channel Islands Blvd. With that aluminum guardrail.	02:42:23
	I mean, you see how many times that thing has been ran into.	02:42:27
	You know, it just frightens me.	02:42:31
	And so.	02:42:33
	Maybe there's grant materials out there, but.	02:42:34
	Maybe we could research to it because that corridor, you know, if you go down Rincon.	02:42:37
	The bike lane is is protected from the freeway.	02:42:43
	And but that's way beyond our.	02:42:46
	Yeah, budgetary test rates.	02:42:49
	So.	02:42:54
	So the last note on this slide is that the two projects that we want to we, we put on the list because we think they're important,	02:42:55
	but they don't currently have funding. So we're.	02:43:00
	Looking for grant funding for them.	02:43:05
	Are a Miranda Park.	02:43:07
	Playground improvements and Winnemi Rd. reconstruction.	02:43:09
	Project the Wayne ME Rd. reconstruction project.	02:43:14
	Is probably about $5,000,000 all in, so that's a significant.	02:43:17
	Cost. I think that's one that we all hear about.	02:43:22
	Pretty consistently if you know everybody.	02:43:25
	Talks about Winimi Road and.	02:43:28
	Making sure that that's paved and.	02:43:30
	And everything frequently.	02:43:33
	And so.	02:43:35
	We have those on our list of future.	02:43:36
	Are ones that we would.	02:43:39
	Recommend putting on as placeholders while we apply for some grant funding.	02:43:40
	Our public works director, Mr. Camarillo, mentioned that.	02:43:45
	Public works.	02:43:48
	Great job really getting everybody.	02:43:49
	A lot of partners together on a grant opportunity for Winemi Rd. reconstruction including.	02:43:54
	With thanks to the port for.	02:44:00
	Signing on and.	02:44:03
	Really advocating for it and.	02:44:04
	The Little League and some other partners. So that project is one that we really want to do. But that $5,000,000 price tag, 5	02:44:06
	million or more price tag is significant. So we're looking for the grant funding to do it.	02:44:12
	And so that's 2526. And so 2627 has fewer projects and we mentioned the staff report that in 2627.	02:44:21
	We really put a focus on not impacting the general fund since there was already going to project it to be a bit of a deficit in	02:44:29
	the general fund.	02:44:33
	So we looked for gas tax related projects, Roads Rd. resurfacing type projects.	02:44:37
	Which are the bulk?	02:44:42
	And then the Oxnard lift station reconfiguration.	02:44:44
	Which would be funded by wastewater and solid waste.	02:44:47
	And then?	02:44:51
	One idea or one thing we were looking at doing was trying to apply for Miranda Park Playground grant funding.	02:44:52
	And once that's complete, also trying to do the same for bulk or park and so trying to do those over the next couple years. I have	02:44:58
	a question regarding the playground. Sure, priority.	02:45:03
	What was the reason for putting random park before bulker?	02:45:08
	The age of the Miranda I mean both parks need maintenance and so.	02:45:13
	We. We.	02:45:20
	We sort of acknowledge that.	02:45:21
	But the.	02:45:23
	Age and condition of the Miranda playground. There's some materials that are close to.	02:45:25
	Breaking or aging out that we cannot replace anymore.	02:45:31
	Once playgrounds get to a certain age, you can't.	02:45:36
	Get replacement parts.	02:45:38
	So that one.	02:45:40
	For that reason.	02:45:42
	Became the priority that we think that there's going to be some some items.	02:45:43
	Braking on it soon that we.	02:45:47
	We won't be able to replace.	02:45:49
	OK, yeah, I just wanted to make sure because bulker gets no love and I would love to see.	02:45:50
	Yeah, umm.	02:45:55
	That area get something before we started the budget process. Bulker Park was an area I was I had some ideas for that I wanted to	02:45:55
	recommend.	02:46:00
	But with the with the.	02:46:04
	The budget process playing out.	02:46:06
	Trying to identify.	02:46:08
	Which of the two need?	02:46:11
	Repairs first.	02:46:14
	But trying to make sure that we keep them both on the list so we focus on both of them.	02:46:15
	Councilmember.	02:46:19
	So our grants.	02:46:20
	Does anyone pay attention because we hear about grants? I know the port is an expert at grants.	02:46:22
	And sometimes they said it's not your tax dollars, but grants are coming from the federal government, generally speaking, and they	02:46:28
	are, I guess, tax dollars.	02:46:33
	But umm.	02:46:38
	How are they?	02:46:39
	Equitably distributed.	02:46:40
	Is it? Does it go to the person that's the?	02:46:43
	Best writing skills or?	02:46:45
	Do they get distributed on a need?	02:46:47
	Because.	02:46:51
	Clearly, you know, our roads really need to have the highest. I mean we.	02:46:52
	Want the highest quality roads considering the traffic that we host?	02:46:58
	So how, how, how do you?	02:47:02
	How do you get in line for these grants? And they're everywhere. Yeah, there's a lot of factors and.	02:47:04
	I think that's why on when Amy Rd. is our example if we're trying to highlight the importance that we need be Rd. plays to.	02:47:10
	Our residents.	02:47:18
	To umm.	02:47:19
	Groups like the Little League, who you know who use it, but also.	02:47:21
	That's where really the idea with partnering with the port on some grant opportunities and reminding people that.	02:47:25
	Wineemi Rd. isn't.	02:47:32
	Just important for our residents, but it's also important for.	02:47:33
	Commerce across the country, you know that it's if it's coming in through the port, it's got to get out.	02:47:37
	To everybody else. So a lot of that comes out through Wineheme Rd.	02:47:43
	So we're trying to.	02:47:47
	We're really part of what we're trying to do is like make these Grant.	02:47:48
	Applications more attractive with the hope that we get some of those grants that we haven't gotten in the past.	02:47:53
	And.	02:48:00
	With the port like in particular, there's a lot of.	02:48:01
	You know, cities have to compete against cities for grants and there's thousands of cities.	02:48:04
	And so ports.	02:48:08
	There aren't as many ports, there's not as much competition.	02:48:10
	But what we're hoping we can do is.	02:48:13
	On some of is kind of partner together to sort of open some of those doors like perhaps where.	02:48:15
	The city can, actually.	02:48:21
	Be included in some of those grant applications for ports where there's less competition than there is competing against 1000	02:48:23
	other cities so.	02:48:27
	So we're trying to.	02:48:31
	Kind of find all those things and I think.	02:48:33
	This exercise with that public Works went through to really put together a good grant application with letters of support from all	02:48:35
	these agencies.	02:48:38
	Is like really a big step in trying to?	02:48:42
	To really do that.	02:48:45
	Finally and see if it pays off.	02:48:46
	So, so we're we're working on that rather than just, you know, submitting A1 page application and.	02:48:49
	Hoping we get it. We're really putting some effort into it, so.	02:48:56
	Councilmember Perez.	02:48:59
	What happened to the Community Benefit Fund money that we had allocated for grant writing?	02:49:00
	And that's still there and that's a possibility that.	02:49:05
	When we have our joint committee meeting and I think we have one later this month that.	02:49:10
	You know, at some point we'll have to figure out what grant we're applying for.	02:49:14
	So.	02:49:18
	I have started that conversation.	02:49:19
	At a staff level, but we'll have to have that and get.	02:49:22
	See if we can get.	02:49:25
	All of the council and the board in agreement.	02:49:27
	And what project can be applied for?	02:49:31
	OK, so.	02:49:37
	With that, we're happy to answer any questions and we do have all of our.	02:49:40
	Department directors here as well, if there's any specific questions about any department related reductions, but.	02:49:45
	At the end of the day.	02:49:52
	It was a difficult budget process.	02:49:54
	I do think and I think everybody for really finding reductions that.	02:49:56
	We're really focused on trying not to.	02:50:01
	Impact services to the community and I think we've done.	02:50:03
	When you look at having to find $2,000,000 in reductions, we've.	02:50:08
	I think of.	02:50:11
	A really good job at that.	02:50:13
	But inevitably there's some impact. So we know some of these are.	02:50:15
	Difficult.	02:50:19
	With that.	02:50:20
	We.	02:50:22
	Can answer any questions.	02:50:24
	Our feedback and then we're asking for a direction to move forward.	02:50:26
	And take forward to our budget adoption scheduled in two weeks.	02:50:30
	Great. Thank you. I just want to remind everyone we're still in the public hearing. So we'll take questions at this time, just	02:50:35
	questions. We'll come back later for comments and discussion.	02:50:39
	That one.	02:50:43
	Question, Councilmember, how you doing, Ashley, you've been standing there for 45 minutes.	02:50:46
	You're good.	02:50:51
	Good. Thank you for your time and.	02:50:53
	Bring on the question. I was just like to.	02:50:55
	Hear about your experience.	02:51:00
	And in all this process, because it is a eye opening experience.	02:51:03
	With this process. So can we just do this really quick?	02:51:07
	Questions about the staff report?	02:51:12
	Then we'll go and then we'll do that in discussion, if you don't mind, because.	02:51:15
	We still have to hear from public comments as it relates.	02:51:18
	Because you're asking her about her personal experience.	02:51:21
	Do you have any questions regarding the report, the staff report?	02:51:23
	Experience with the budget?	02:51:28
	OK, so.	02:51:29
	Let, we're going to. We'll come back to that.	02:51:31
	Do we have any?	02:51:34
	You have question, Mayor Pro Tem.	02:51:35
	So the estimated unassigned fund balance.	02:51:38
	For the for the general public.	02:51:42
	What what? What's our number that we?	02:51:45
	Try to keep that at.	02:51:47
	Do we have?	02:51:49
	So there's.	02:51:52
	I was trying to go to that slide.	02:51:54
	So we have a policy that requires that we have a emergency reserve.	02:51:56
	Equal to six months operations.	02:52:02
	We do have that emergency reserve.	02:52:04
	But then.	02:52:07
	So we have a six month sort of emergency fund.	02:52:09
	And then?	02:52:12
	We have essentially the unassigned fund balance is the remaining money in the general fund.	02:52:13
	Besides that, six months that can be used without.	02:52:19
	To touch the emergency reserve we have to come back to the council, we have to essentially declare an emergency.	02:52:23
	We have to declare an emergency to actually be able to spend it.	02:52:30
	And so the unassigned fund balance is the money that.	02:52:33
	Is available that we could utilize.	02:52:36
	That, uh.	02:52:39
	That outside of an emergency situation essentially. So do you want to add anything to that?	02:52:41
	Sure. The reserve has four specific buckets to it. So there's the economic reserve which is recommended at six to eight months.	02:52:47
	We're fully funded at the six month minimum right now.	02:52:52
	There's the stability reserve, which is 10% of our annual operating expenses. So because both of those two are specifically tied	02:52:58
	to operating expenses, that amount changes every single year as we adopt the budget and change how much we're spending every year.	02:53:05
	So those are two. The third would be 50% of our risk liability.	02:53:12
	So we save 50% of the annual cost of our insurances throughout the city to make sure if that price goes up if an accident occurs,	02:53:17
	we can afford a spike in our insurance that wasn't planned.	02:53:23
	And then the last one is the newly created capital improvement reserve.	02:53:29
	Which is specifically to be spent down.	02:53:33
	For prod general funded projects and assets which we are already using with this budget.	02:53:35
	Got it. Thank you.	02:53:41
	Any other questions?	02:53:43
	Will now open the public hearing for public comments. The time is now 839.	02:53:46
	Madam Clerk, are there any public comments regarding this item?	02:53:53
	Yes, we have a public comment from Luis Mendez.	02:53:57
	Thank you guys.	02:54:08
	I just had a couple of quick comments on this. Thank you, James for the presentation and the department heads for doing what you	02:54:09
	did.	02:54:12
	For what the numbers look like.	02:54:15
	You seem really calm in presenting everything.	02:54:18
	But that's what concerns me than two months ago, right? What I I did hear a lot like you said about saving, saving, savings.	02:54:21
	Savings isn't really actually earning anything though. It's not doing anything or moving the city forward in that aspect.	02:54:29
	And you use the word uncertainly a lot, which I guess a lot of people are.	02:54:35
	And what I don't hear is how the city, or the governing body anyway, is doing anything to create certainty.	02:54:38
	Or to stabilize it.	02:54:45
	You know, it looks like everything's done reactionary, you know, as to what their circumstances are.	02:54:47
	And I lived here for 440 years.	02:54:52
	And we can blame inflation right now for this budget problem.	02:54:54
	Four years ago it was COVID.	02:54:58
	Prior to that, it's just the city's not being run.	02:55:00
	Like a business, a successful business because to see a $400.00 cell phone bill.	02:55:03
	Being cut, it's embarrassing, it's sad.	02:55:07
	You know, it's like what are we doing with the money and why isn't the city? Are you guys looking at ways to increase revenue and	02:55:10
	run the city like a successful business?	02:55:14
	You know I.	02:55:18
	I haven't. I know this is a savings part, but in the future, you know, are you guys putting sales tax increases on the table?	02:55:19
	To create revenue.	02:55:25
	You know, are you going to increase?	02:55:26
	Utility rates.	02:55:28
	I mean, those things are hard decisions that have to be done whether you're popular or not, popular or not, the decisions to be	02:55:29
	made or you know, when it comes to negotiating contracts with that are coming up for the city with some of the employees.	02:55:36
	You guys got to look at all that and make the hard decisions.	02:55:43
	Sometimes say no.	02:55:45
	And sometimes cast the unpopular vote.	02:55:47
	Even if the community doesn't agree with it, that's what you guys were elected for.	02:55:49
	Not to be popular in light.	02:55:53
	But to put the city in the financial stable position?	02:55:54
	That's all I want to say. Thank you.	02:55:57
	Like to comment on that.	02:55:59
	Thank you.	02:56:00
	Oh, you want to comment to?	02:56:03
	Yeah, we're in discussion.	02:56:07
	No, we're we're in public comment.	02:56:09
	If I could provide some information.	02:56:13
	I just want to say.	02:56:16
	I I would suggest watching the last 45 minute presentation from 2 weeks ago.	02:56:20
	We talked this. This was the detailed list of reductions.	02:56:28
	That meeting was the structural.	02:56:33
	Budget challenges we face and how we need to make adjustments to get structurally.	02:56:35
	Balanced and we talked about a lot. I won't go through all of it, but we talked about sort of the spending increase.	02:56:40
	From 2021 to 2023.	02:56:47
	How that reflected in additional hiring and more staff people and how we need to.	02:56:50
	And have been working.	02:56:56
	To your point, not waiting, but proactively adjusting down each year over the last couple years back to almost.	02:56:58
	Pre cannabis levels.	02:57:04
	So, so there's a lot more to it and then additional revenue proposals and.	02:57:06
	Conversations about.	02:57:12
	Utility rate increases and those types of things so.	02:57:13
	Definitely.	02:57:16
	Understand the sentiment.	02:57:17
	Today's.	02:57:19
	Presentation is not intended to be the.	02:57:20
	The big picture, it was really the detail of how we're getting by this year.	02:57:24
	Which supplemented that last presentation. That was the big picture.	02:57:28
	Thank you.	02:57:34
	And then we have two written comments, The first one.	02:57:35
	Request for independent audit of city employee compensation amid budget challenges.	02:57:38
	I'm writing as a concerned resident regarding the city's current budgetary challenges and the compensation packages of several	02:57:44
	very highly paid city employees.	02:57:49
	Upon reviewing public salary data, I was alarmed to find that some of our cities top earners.	02:57:54
	Receive total compensation packages ranging from approximately 250,000 to over 424,000 annually.	02:58:00
	For instance, in 2023, a Police Department employee.	02:58:08
	Earned a total compensation exceeding 424,000.	02:58:12
	These figures are particularly concerning given that Port Wine Amy's median resident household income.	02:58:16
	Is approximately 76,655.	02:58:21
	Moreover, many of these highly compensated employees do not reside within our city.	02:58:26
	Raising questions about the equitable distribution of our hard earned local tax dollars.	02:58:31
	The recently presented draft budget for fiscal years 2025 through 26 and 2026 through 27.	02:58:35
	Highlights the city's efforts to address economic uncertainties.	02:58:42
	By proposing reductions across departments, freezing vacant positions and delaying certain projects.	02:58:46
	While these measures are commendable, it is crucial to ensure that all aspects of the budget are scrutinized.	02:58:52
	For sustainability and fairness.	02:58:57
	This is a call for greater transparency, equity and responsible fiscal management.	02:58:59
	It is imperative that we assess whether such compensation practices align with the city's financial realities and priorities.	02:59:04
	A lack of transparency and perceived inequities and compensation may contribute to a culture where some city employees feel	02:59:12
	insulated from accountability, potentially leading to less respectful interactions with residents.	02:59:18
	Some of which I have witnessed.	02:59:25
	Additionally, I am concerned about the appearance of potential conflicts of interest. It has come to public attention.	02:59:27
	That several of the highest paid city employees have close associations with the current council member.	02:59:33
	Given that this Council member served in a leadership role during the time of these employees promotions, it is essential to	02:59:38
	ensure that all compensation decisions are made impartial.	02:59:42
	And partially, transparently and in the best interest of the community.	02:59:47
	Therefore, I respectfully urge the City Council to Commission a comprehensive, independent audit of all city compensation	02:59:51
	packages.	02:59:54
	This audit should assess the sustainability and fairness of current compensation practices, explore adjustments that align with	02:59:58
	the city's size, needs, and budgetary constraints.	03:00:03
	Our community deserves leadership that prioritizes the well-being of all residents and ensures that public funds are allocated in	03:00:08
	a manner that promotes equity, sustainability and are in the best interest of the community.	03:00:14
	Thank you for your time, Jessica Baca.	03:00:20
	Dear Honourable Members of the Port Wyoming City Council.	03:00:25
	I'm writing as a concerned resident to formally request the City Council authorize an independent audit of all city employee	03:00:28
	compensation packages.	03:00:32
	This request is grounded in concerns regarding fiscal responsibility, transparency and adherence to principles.	03:00:36
	Of equitable governance, particularly in light of the city's current budgetary constraints.	03:00:42
	And ongoing community fundraising efforts.	03:00:47
	Publicly available salary records, including those published via Transparent California.	03:00:50
	Indicate that certain city employees receive compensation packages that appear disproportionate relative to the median household	03:00:55
	income.	03:00:58
	Of Port Whitney, ME residents.	03:01:01
	Such disparities weren't a thorough review to ensure alignment with the city's financial capacity and applicable such.	03:01:03
	Statutory guidelines.	03:01:10
	The recent community LED fundraising effort to secure $15,000 for a police K9 unit.	03:01:12
	An initiative aimed at addressing urgent public safety concerns.	03:01:18
	Such as a fentanyl crisis exemplifies the city's current financial limitations.	03:01:21
	Reliance on private donations to fund a central law enforcement resources.	03:01:26
	Raises significant questions about budgetary priorities and the sustainable allocation of public funds.	03:01:30
	Particularly when juxtaposed with high compensation levels paid to certain city employees.	03:01:37
	Moreover, there are concerns regarding the integrity of internal promotion processes, including potential conflicts of interest.	03:01:43
	Involving senior staff appointments.	03:01:50
	An independent audit would provide an impartial evaluations of these matters.	03:01:52
	Reinforcing public confidence in the city's governance.	03:01:56
	Therefore, I respectfully urge the Council to Commission a comprehensive, independent audit of all city employee compensation.	03:02:00
	And promotion practices.	03:02:06
	Such a review should assess compliance with applicable laws, fiscal prudence, equity standards and best practices in public sector	03:02:08
	governance.	03:02:12
	This measure is essential to ensuring that limited municipal resources are managed responsibly and transparently.	03:02:16
	In alignment with the priorities and needs of the Port Wineemi community.	03:02:22
	Thank you for your attention to this critical matter. I look forward to the Council's consideration and appropriate action.	03:02:26
	Sincerely, Abraham Baca.	03:02:31
	And that concludes public comment.	03:02:33
	Thank you public. Do you mind if I provide some information?	03:02:36
	I just wanted to provide some information to the speakers but also to the public.	03:02:41
	And.	03:02:47
	Take a moment to confirm that salary information is available.	03:02:48
	In two locations for the public. First on our city website.	03:02:53
	Anyone can navigate to our.	03:02:58
	Human Resources and risk Management management page by clicking on departments and then Administration and Community services and	03:03:00
	then HR and risk management and then Compensation and memorandums of understandings.	03:03:06
	The link on that page.	03:03:13
	To see all salary schedules and.	03:03:15
	Memorandums of agreements with SEIU and POA.	03:03:18
	So the city has those publicly available.	03:03:21
	So the public can see those.	03:03:23
	24 hours a day.	03:03:26
	And it's available and transparent.	03:03:29
	The city also provides payroll information to Transparent California each year.	03:03:31
	That's available also 24/7. Anybody can at any can at any point go on to Transparent California and see.	03:03:36
	Total pay, including all benefits for any employee on that page.	03:03:43
	Those are publicly available.	03:03:48
	I do want to just add that the other great thing about Transparent California is you can actually look at other cities.	03:03:51
	And compare Port Winnie me to other cities.	03:03:57
	I think there was a comment about comparing.	03:04:00
	The average salary of a city employee to a non city employee. But I think it's really important to.	03:04:03
	Look on Transparent California and compare.	03:04:10
	To the other cities around us and I think if people do that, they would see that poor Winnie me is actually.	03:04:13
	Not on the higher end of salaries.	03:04:18
	So it's not really giving the whole picture by just looking at the employees in a vacuum.	03:04:23
	And with Transparent California you can look at.	03:04:30
	Much more detail.	03:04:33
	Look at all neighboring cities.	03:04:34
	And look at and compare those.	03:04:36
	Salaries.	03:04:39
	Regarding some of the statements regarding some of the personnel matters over the last couple of weeks.	03:04:41
	We've had the same.	03:04:47
	Comments from our We've had comments from the same residents regarding personnel items and asking the council to take action.	03:04:48
	Regarding personnel?	03:04:55
	I want to take a second.	03:04:56
	Because I know not everybody understands this.	03:04:59
	So I want to help.	03:05:01
	Educate the public.	03:05:02
	And the speakers on.	03:05:05
	How personnel items are to be addressed in a city.	03:05:06
	The city of Portland, ME has what is known as a.	03:05:10
	Council manager form of government.	03:05:13
	Where the voters elect 5 council members, those council members hire one professional city manager who carries out.	03:05:15
	Day-to-day operations and personnel matters.	03:05:22
	One of the reasons for why the city manager is non political and ensures that personnel matters are handled.	03:05:26
	Fairly.	03:05:34
	Is to ensure that politics do not interfere with personnel matters.	03:05:35
	This is for the taxpayers benefit.	03:05:39
	If politics interfere with personnel matters, it means that the city faces liability and the taxpayer dollars.	03:05:41
	Go to lawsuits or claims instead of critical needs like the items we're discussing.	03:05:48
	Following that process ensures our taxpayer resources are used for things like streets, public safety and other public works.	03:05:54
	Not lawsuits.	03:06:00
	So for the benefit of our taxpayers.	03:06:02
	I will advise these residents and continue to advise all that personnel matters.	03:06:04
	And concerns with day-to-day operations should be referred to the city manager for follow up as needed.	03:06:10
	Not scheduled for a public meeting.	03:06:14
	That would lead to.	03:06:17
	Claims and lawsuits.	03:06:18
	And then finally.	03:06:20
	I just want to take a moment and thank our officers for their hard work and recognize their efforts.	03:06:22
	It's easy to say.	03:06:27
	Somebody's paid too much, but.	03:06:29
	I can honestly say that the positive comments and appreciation we get regarding our officers.	03:06:31
	Are the vast majority of the comments we do receive from our residents?	03:06:37
	So I want our officers to know that the community and and we appreciate them.	03:06:40
	Thank you.	03:06:46
	Great. Thank you for your comments.	03:06:47
	No other public comments.	03:06:50
	No. Great. Thank you. So we've received our public input and so the public input is now concluded. I will now close this hearing	03:06:52
	at 8:52.	03:06:59
	So we have before us a recommendation to receive the report on the draft budget for fiscal year.	03:07:05
	202526 and 2026 through 27.	03:07:10
	Provide feedback and general direction on the draft budget, take into consideration any public comments made and direct staff to	03:07:16
	incorporate any amendments and return for budget adoption on Monday.	03:07:23
	June the 2nd May I have a motion and a second move approval.	03:07:30
	Great. Thank you. Now invite discussion of the motion.	03:07:38
	And after the discussion is concluded, we'll move on to the vote Any.	03:07:41
	Discussion. Umm.	03:07:47
	Councilmember, did you have anything?	03:07:48
	Councilmember Gama, thank you. I really enjoy when we receive.	03:07:51
	Public comments on.	03:07:55
	Items on the agenda because then we could comment on those public comments.	03:07:56
	I think it's interesting that a husband and wife.	03:08:00
	Are providing us with basically the same comment.	03:08:04
	And I generally think it's a waste of our time if they're both saying the same thing.	03:08:06
	In terms of.	03:08:12
	Of Louis.	03:08:14
	Louie's comments I wish you was here because I wanted to speak directly to him.	03:08:16
	OK. And if not, let me just say this really quick.	03:08:19
	We should be calling out people's names. He provided a public comment on the budget. No, we can. Yeah. You can refer to the public	03:08:23
	comment, though. OK.	03:08:27
	So I just want to.	03:08:32
	Go down memory lane.	03:08:34
	And the Council.	03:08:36
	What's being told, what we wanted to hear?	03:08:38
	Prior to the arrival of a city manager, Vega.	03:08:40
	And I remember meeting with City Manager Vega prior to him coming here and specifically talking about the items.	03:08:43
	That were concerning me in regards to the budget.	03:08:49
	We were spending money on a destination playground and a skate park and looking at these big ticket items and like hey.	03:08:53
	I don't think we could afford this.	03:09:00
	And so when City Manager Vega.	03:09:02
	Before he even started, he was honing in our budget.	03:09:04
	And I remember first time I went out to lunch.	03:09:07
	Vegan lunch. Vegetarian lunch.	03:09:11
	We uh.	03:09:14
	We.	03:09:15
	We discussed the budget at length and.	03:09:16
	So.	03:09:20
	From the moment he hit the ground here and came on staff, he's been focused on the budget and I think we're seeing.	03:09:22
	The hard work over the last two years.	03:09:29
	And for example, I recall.	03:09:32
	James Vega.	03:09:36
	And city manager meetings was asked.	03:09:38
	Asking our prior city manager about aren't you worried about the cannabis?	03:09:40
	Revenues when they fall.	03:09:45
	And then when he got here.	03:09:46
	He brought it up like, hey, the revenues aren't and everyone like objected like what? No, no they're not and yes, they were. And	03:09:48
	then now we're down 40%.	03:09:53
	You know, and so.	03:09:58
	Our city manager brought a realistic.	03:10:00
	Approach to budgeting and I really appreciate it and the work started before he started working here.	03:10:03
	And then Ashley, I wanted to hear from you.	03:10:09
	I do.	03:10:12
	And I think I think you have a great leader in our city manager and I know this is your first time.	03:10:14
	In this position and I would just like to hear from you like.	03:10:21
	You know, what have you learned, what can we do differently and what's your perspective on moving forward when regards to our	03:10:25
	budget?	03:10:28
	That's a question.	03:10:32
	Thank you.	03:10:34
	I'm really thankful that if I can present data, that's finances job, right? We run analysis, we present data and reports that it	03:10:35
	doesn't fall upon deaf ears. So when he asked me these questions and I produced the state and we go over it together and prepare	03:10:41
	this and we sit down and say, OK.	03:10:46
	These conversations are going to be a little.	03:10:52
	Different from prior budgets where we're not necessarily reaching out to departments for asks, but instead asking them to in turn	03:10:54
	provide us a 5% reduction upfront. That's how we started our budget kick off this time. And you know, as long as I can provide	03:11:00
	data to him, he can read through it.	03:11:06
	Come up with the overall message.	03:11:12
	Share that with the team. We are a team in this process.	03:11:14
	It's been a lot of hard work, a lot of hours, but.	03:11:17
	Not only did he.	03:11:20
	Feel this message needed to be said.	03:11:22
	But department heads immediately understood.	03:11:25
	Worked really hard to produce the 5% reductions with very realistic data. That's what's important to me in finance is.	03:11:29
	You're not just giving us 5% reductions that aren't feasible.	03:11:36
	That are maybe easy for you to cut.	03:11:39
	In, for an example, a project you don't want to do and you're just saying let's cut that one. Instead. It's being realistic about	03:11:42
	what the community needs, what their department needs are, because all these department heads are not going to have to live with	03:11:46
	this budget.	03:11:51
	And they're going to have to work with it throughout the fiscal year to make sure they can get everything done that they need to.	03:11:55
	Maybe you know, work with their vendors to get lower costs or all of that is more workload on them. So I'm really thankful that	03:12:00
	when we did go through this exercise, they were being realistic and giving us good reasons, examples, things that are feasible	03:12:05
	with that.	03:12:09
	Not hurting.	03:12:14
	Service levels as much as possible.	03:12:16
	That was, that's my opportunity to learn about what all the departments face, what they do, what their goals and projects are. So	03:12:18
	that's what I've learned is.	03:12:23
	Working with them.	03:12:27
	What they're going to be able to do with this budget and what they know they can accomplish so.	03:12:28
	That that's been my learning lesson here, is working with.	03:12:35
	These department heads and we're.	03:12:39
	I'm gonna have to cut them off, you know, when they start trying to spend more than they should. So.	03:12:41
	That's the next.	03:12:47
	Challenge and task at hand.	03:12:49
	I know we can do it. I know that it was a lot of difficult conversations, but.	03:12:52
	We're very thankful that everyone was willing to participate and that's what we could present you something feasible.	03:12:57
	In closing that gap and it's really it's not lip service. I know it's like cliche to thank all the departments, but like.	03:13:03
	Ashley and essentially got pulled into the budget on March 1st and had to help me find.	03:13:10
	Really. Over 2 years, 5 to $6 million in reductions.	03:13:17
	With in essentially 2 months.	03:13:22
	And we really couldn't have done that without.	03:13:24
	You know, when we asked the departments in our directors to.	03:13:27
	To help us, we told them what we were facing and I think.	03:13:32
	Everybody immediately understood and really came forward.	03:13:36
	Quickly.	03:13:40
	Real like, like Ashley said, real reductions that.	03:13:41
	We're realistic and.	03:13:46
	Feasible so.	03:13:48
	So that really was a key.	03:13:49
	For us, and I just want to thank everybody for that.	03:13:52
	Anyone else?	03:13:56
	So I do have some comments on some of the public comments that were written first of all.	03:13:57
	I have to say.	03:14:02
	To one specific comment.	03:14:04
	I don't get to participate in.	03:14:06
	Meetings when it comes to PD.	03:14:08
	Pay. I have to excuse myself so I don't get to participate in that. So the comment.	03:14:11
	About.	03:14:15
	Myself being a.	03:14:17
	Conflict of interest is inaccurate.	03:14:19
	I excuse myself every time there's anything to do with money when it comes to the Police Department.	03:14:21
	The second is we don't base our Police Department pay on.	03:14:25
	Local residents income if we did that.	03:14:29
	I would really, and this is unfortunate, I would say that we wouldn't have a very good Police Department.	03:14:32
	You get what you pay for when it comes to law enforcement, unfortunately, and we have to keep up with the next department who are	03:14:36
	constantly raising the bar, and we have to make it to where people want to come and work at our city. If we don't, they're going	03:14:41
	to go to Oxnard or they're going to go to the sheriff's are going to go to another agency, and we want to make sure that we can	03:14:45
	provide.	03:14:50
	Top quality police officers. And we do.	03:14:54
	And they they want to get paid. And unfortunately we don't get to set the standard for how much police work is.	03:14:57
	If we did, maybe we would, it would be a little lower, maybe it wouldn't. But the point is, is that Winemi.	03:15:03
	Doesn't get to set how much police officers make. We have to go by what the market is and the next agency is. And we're surrounded	03:15:10
	by multiple agencies and the officers that choose to come to our city choose because of their various reasons, but they could just	03:15:15
	as easily go to Oxnard or another agency. So I would like the people who write the letters to keep that in mind that we have to,	03:15:21
	we have to pay people just like our our public works people.	03:15:26
	If they're going to get paid more at Oxnard, they're going to go to Oxnard, so we have to make our wages.	03:15:32
	Competitive with other agencies.	03:15:37
	Great. Anyone else?	03:15:40
	Mayor, approach it.	03:15:42
	Yeah. So I think going back to workshop one and just closing out.	03:15:43
	My comment is.	03:15:49
	I think a major goal that we need, we need to ensure that we are right sized for the services that we provide.	03:15:51
	Our city hasn't grown.	03:15:58
	And so looking at the 2018 budget to 2025.	03:15:59
	We grew, you know, we grew 30 plus employees.	03:16:03
	With really.	03:16:07
	No increased services.	03:16:10
	So.	03:16:11
	With, with James, with your leadership, you know, we need to find out what that, what our magic number is and.	03:16:13
	Because we.	03:16:20
	Were built out.	03:16:23
	This should have been.	03:16:24
	Manageable where our numbers are pretty much even even skilled.	03:16:26
	Umm.	03:16:31
	We did get the list of.	03:16:34
	By departments What? What departments grew?	03:16:36
	And some some were substantial.	03:16:39
	So it's just gonna take some leadership, little oversight.	03:16:42
	Right size and.	03:16:45
	And looking at the 5% decrease per department, I think?	03:16:46
	We got a handle on this so.	03:16:52
	Yes, this is.	03:16:55
	This.	03:16:57
	Not the worst case scenario.	03:16:58
	But it's something that we can actually.	03:17:00
	Kind of focus on and we can.	03:17:03
	We can go left or right.	03:17:05
	With this.	03:17:07
	Thank you.	03:17:08
	Just want to say thank you very much.	03:17:12
	So as a member of council, a body of decision makers.	03:17:16
	It is really hard to think about.	03:17:22
	Possibly not having the funds to to.	03:17:25
	To run your city.	03:17:28
	Right. Umm.	03:17:29
	And the word that we keep using, hearing and using uncertainty.	03:17:30
	And that is just what it means. It's uncertain.	03:17:36
	And so we have to do our very best, and I thank you city manager, we have to do our very best to.	03:17:39
	Come up with what?	03:17:45
	Might be the right numbers, right. And I think that's what that's what we're doing. So I'm feeling really good about where we are	03:17:47
	understanding that.	03:17:50
	Like our city manager and you all have said that there may be some ebbs and flows and we'll have to figure out how to kind of ebb	03:17:54
	and flow with that.	03:17:57
	And so I just really appreciate the work you've done so far.	03:18:01
	And even back, I'll just say this just kind of looking at you how you're communicating about the process.	03:18:04
	And how you were able to work with the department?	03:18:14
	Department heads.	03:18:18
	I think that is probably.	03:18:20
	One of the best things that I've heard because.	03:18:23
	The people have to know that they can trust you and believe what you're saying and that the numbers are correct.	03:18:26
	And I'm getting, I'm getting, I'm seeing a couple of nods around here. So it's really good to see that you've kind of stepped in.	03:18:31
	You all are creating relationships and that's.	03:18:35
	The most important, I think, I think moving forward is that you all have the relationships of trust.	03:18:41
	And you, you all can make decisions based on that. So I appreciate the work that you all.	03:18:47
	Are doing and will have to continue to do over the next couple of years. So we really appreciate that.	03:18:51
	Councilmember Hernandez.	03:18:57
	Yeah, something came to mind that I wanted to comment on two things I want to talk about this concept of built out.	03:18:58
	And second of all, I want to talk about this concept of uncertainty.	03:19:04
	This uncertainty that we're facing right now is unlike anything that we've ever had to experience before.	03:19:08
	And it truly is uncertain we've got.	03:19:15
	Federal.	03:19:18
	Administration that is making cuts.	03:19:20
	Really fast.	03:19:24
	And the impact?	03:19:25
	Will have yet to see on our.	03:19:28
	On our local communities.	03:19:30
	In terms of housing, in terms of health.	03:19:32
	In terms of the funding that we depend on here at the municipal level.	03:19:34
	There's been a lot of talk about the impact on municipal employees.	03:19:40
	So to criticize our city management.	03:19:45
	That we're not.	03:19:49
	Looking at the trends or we're not that this is business as usual that it's.	03:19:50
	It's we can compare it to past experiences like COVID. I'm I would argue that that's what we're in right now is very different.	03:19:55
	Very different, and we've got to watch every day what's happening out there at the federal level and at the state level.	03:20:03
	Yes, we could lose grant funding at the federal level. The state has some of their own funding.	03:20:09
	We can hopefully won't lose that, but the state's not doing so well either.	03:20:14
	So everything is very uncertain.	03:20:19
	And we cannot. It's something beyond our control.	03:20:23
	So then people think that that's something that we can control up here from this dais.	03:20:27
	They need to follow the news.	03:20:32
	And study what's going on.	03:20:34
	And then as far as being built out, I don't want to use that as a fall back for not.	03:20:36
	Being creative and not thinking about the economic.	03:20:42
	Activities that we can implement, I think everything that we do in the future.	03:20:47
	Should have an economic development benefit to it.	03:20:51
	And maybe that's that's the criteria that we should use as we move forward. Does it have an economic development?	03:20:55
	A benefit to our community. That's how I would like to.	03:21:01
	To propose.	03:21:05
	We move forward.	03:21:06
	So I hope that we can implement our.	03:21:07
	Our economic development plan in small pieces, you know, when we come to the Council with ideas.	03:21:11
	That they have.	03:21:15
	Some justification that.	03:21:17
	Creates an economic.	03:21:20
	Benefit for our community. So thank you James, and thank you staff for all the hard work and.	03:21:22
	And the sacrifice that you had to make for this budget.	03:21:27
	Much appreciated.	03:21:30
	Anytime you are involved in difficulties, I think it's really important to highlight the positive aspects of what we've gone	03:21:31
	through here.	03:21:35
	And there are many.	03:21:38
	We live in a wonderful place.	03:21:39
	We have a wonderful team. We have a wonderful Police Department. We have excellent finance director. Our city manager is pretty	03:21:42
	good.	03:21:45
	I have a city attorney over there and this council.	03:21:49
	Works together.	03:21:52
	And I think at the end of the day.	03:21:53
	We're we're moving in the right direction. We may not have everything we want.	03:21:56
	But on the positive note.	03:22:01
	You know, we have some great people working with us.	03:22:03
	We're surrounded by artwork.	03:22:06
	Tomorrow's a new day. The sun's gonna come up and we're gonna keep.	03:22:08
	Keep living each day to the fullest so.	03:22:12
	Really proud of everybody and all the work that you've done. Thank you.	03:22:15
	Mayor, if I could say one last thing, I just want to thank Ashley, I want to thank James, I want to thank all the staff that	03:22:18
	participated in getting this budget under control.	03:22:22
	It's not easy. It hasn't been easy. We've been dealing with a lot of things over the past few years.	03:22:27
	That none of us anticipated.	03:22:31
	And we're not out of the woods yet, but I appreciate all the work that's been gone into this, and I appreciate the transparency	03:22:34
	and the honesty. And don't be afraid to tell us something we don't want to hear.	03:22:38
	Because we make our decisions based on the feedback we get from staff. If we have all the information and we know what we're	03:22:43
	looking at, we can make the best decisions for the community. We can't do that if we're only getting half information.	03:22:49
	Or incorrect information. So appreciate any truth that we can hear. That way we can do the best that we can. So we thank you for	03:22:55
	that.	03:22:58
	Great. Thank you.	03:23:03
	So we have the recommendation before us. Does anyone need me to go back over the recommendation? Are we good?	03:23:04
	OK, Madam Clerk, can we take a vote, please?	03:23:10
	It's going to be a roll call. So yes, roll call member Blackwell, member Brown are absent by councilmember member commissioner	03:23:14
	Gama yes. Councilmember member commissioner Hernandez, yes, council member, member Commissioner Perez, yes. Mayor Pro Tem, vice	03:23:22
	chair, vice president Lopez, yes. Mayor, chair, President McQueen Legend yes.	03:23:29
	Motion passes unanimously.	03:23:37
	Great. Thank you. This brings us back to the to the end of the special joint meeting. We will now reconvene the City Council	03:23:39
	regular meeting.	03:23:42
	The time is now 909.	03:23:46
	And we'll move to the consent calendar.	03:23:49
	Which will be enacted in one motion unless a council member has a request to remove an item. Is there any request to move any	03:23:52
	items?	03:23:55
	All right, if not, can I get a motion and a second for the second?	03:23:59
	2nd Madam Clerk, please take a vote. All in favor, aye.	03:24:03
	All opposed.	03:24:07
	Hearing none, motion passes unanimously.	03:24:08
	Great. So we'll move to our business item, Beach erosion authority for clean oceans and nourishment.	03:24:11
	Goals for fiscal year 20/25/2026.	03:24:18
	Staff please present.	03:24:25
	Thank you.	03:24:26
	And I think we might have.	03:24:28
	Some representatives of.	03:24:31
	Beacon on the zoom perhaps?	03:24:32
	Just let me know that they left the Zoom meeting.	03:24:36
	Because I talked too long.	03:24:40
	Yeah.	03:24:41
	We do have in the staff report.	03:24:43
	Well, let me back up and say so. Recently, the City Council had directed that a future item be scheduled to receive information	03:24:46
	regarding the goals for Beacon.	03:24:51
	And to allow the Council to provide direction regarding those goals.	03:24:56
	The staff report includes an italics.	03:25:00
	That's direct language from Beacon Executive Director.	03:25:04
	Mark Baylor.	03:25:09
	Regarding.	03:25:10
	The goals that he is.	03:25:12
	Putting forward.	03:25:14
	And there's some detail there, but.	03:25:17
	High level Channel Islands harbor sand trap dredging advocacy.	03:25:19
	Ventura Sand Summit coordination, Ormond Beach habitat and public access planning.	03:25:24
	And sumas Creek water quality where the four main.	03:25:29
	Areas umm.	03:25:33
	And so Mr. Baylor provided his recommended goals.	03:25:34
	For the Council to consider.	03:25:40
	And we had planned to have a couple representatives, but.	03:25:42
	At this point.	03:25:47
	I can answer.	03:25:49
	What I can and then if we have a follow up, we can always just follow up with with.	03:25:50
	With Beacon following the meeting so.	03:25:55
	Happy to answer.	03:25:58
	Any questions I'm able to.	03:26:00
	OK. Thank you and thank you for the staff report.	03:26:03
	I'm glad to have the opportunity to discuss.	03:26:06
	That beacon has for our city.	03:26:10
	The question I have regarding the language under the Channel Islands Harbor soundtrack dredging.	03:26:13
	It's a little confusing to me if this came from Beacon.	03:26:20
	Did Beacon run this language by the lead agency, the county?	03:26:24
	In regards to.	03:26:29
	The dredging, because, well, I'll just tell you.	03:26:31
	Let's see item.	03:26:35
	Bullet #1.	03:26:36
	On the bottom of the page, page one, it says dredging at Channel Islands Harbor sand trap is a federal obligation.	03:26:39
	Involving funding from the Army Corps of Engineers and the US Navy.	03:26:46
	We don't get money from the US Navy.	03:26:50
	And then it says and it's not one of the navigation.	03:26:53
	As it relates to wine, EMI Beach.	03:26:58
	Well, the purpose of the dredging is.	03:27:00
	Twofold, it's 1/2.	03:27:03
	Provide for navigation and then second it provides.	03:27:05
	San for Wanneme Beach and it also says Silver Strand even though they I don't know that they do that anymore.	03:27:09
	So they do.	03:27:16
	OK, so.	03:27:18
	This doesn't seem accurate and I don't want to approve something that is not accurate.	03:27:20
	And did that, did you?	03:27:26
	Did that. Did anybody else notice that?	03:27:28
	Just to say, this is not.	03:27:31
	File so just so you know what to receive so we can actually go back OK.	03:27:34
	OK, thanks.	03:27:38
	I'll send it back for that question.	03:27:40
	Is that true?	03:27:44
	I'm not sure I.	03:27:48
	I know that.	03:27:51
	Well, my understanding.	03:27:52
	And we do have good news to report is that.	03:27:54
	We did get confirmation that.	03:27:58
	The funding?	03:28:00
	For the return trip in fall is.	03:28:02
	Was approved.	03:28:05
	But I had understood, I thought, I had thought it was a congressional earmark. OK, so I don't.	03:28:07
	I had assumed the funding comes from that source, not from specifically the Army Corps of Engineer or the US Navy, so I'm not	03:28:14
	sure.	03:28:17
	What that refers to, so my understanding and I'm not clear on this, but there is dredging at the Channel Islands harbor, which is	03:28:21
	the biannual dredging that is.	03:28:27
	Provided through a congressional action.	03:28:34
	It gives the Army Corps of Engineer.	03:28:36
	Money to come and do.	03:28:39
	Do the dredging.	03:28:41
	Of the Channel Islands harbor.	03:28:42
	Then the port has.	03:28:44
	They do their dredging of the, of their heart, of.	03:28:47
	Their their port, their access to the port which is separate from the Channel Islands.	03:28:51
	But and then the sand comes to us from that.	03:28:56
	Then the Navy has their own pot of money, and it's in the Army Corps of Engineers.	03:29:00
	Work plan and budget. They have their own source of funding.	03:29:05
	And I'm not really sure.	03:29:09
	What if that goes for dredging or if it goes?	03:29:11
	Or other.	03:29:14
	Umm, shoreline protection measures.	03:29:16
	So I'd like to get clarification on that if we could.	03:29:18
	Also some typographical errors. It's Army Corps with AP, not Army Corps with Co RE.	03:29:21
	So it is very complicated and I think.	03:29:30
	It gets complicated.	03:29:34
	Initially by.	03:29:36
	The Port of Wineemi being referred to as a natural deep water port.	03:29:39
	And that is?	03:29:45
	Technically correct.	03:29:46
	And so the dredging isn't.	03:29:48
	To keep the navigation channel open as it is in Ventura.	03:29:51
	Ventura Harbor is.	03:29:56
	Their dredging is 100% to keep the commercial enterprises coming in and out of the harbour.	03:29:59
	That's not the case here.	03:30:05
	So with the sand trap.	03:30:07
	It traps the sand at Hollywood Beach.	03:30:09
	To be manually bypassed around the port of Waeneme.	03:30:12
	And then they do a little fill up of Silver Strand Beach periodically.	03:30:17
	Um, and.	03:30:23
	I know that.	03:30:24
	The port of Wineemi doesn't fill up with sand. It does collect sand overtime.	03:30:27
	But it's not like.	03:30:34
	Ventura Harbor.	03:30:36
	Where Ventura can remember, there is an emergency.	03:30:38
	A few years ago where they brought the dredge back to get Ventura Harbor open because it closed up.	03:30:41
	Because of the rain storms.	03:30:47
	So yes, it is very complicated and.	03:30:49
	And it gets even more complicated.	03:30:54
	And.	03:30:57
	Advocacy and.	03:31:00
	The thing that I've been arguing about.	03:31:01
	For six years now is.	03:31:03
	You know we're supposed to be mimicking Mother Nature.	03:31:05
	2.4 million cubic yards of sand every two years.	03:31:09
	We have a 30 million cubic yard sand deficit.	03:31:12
	And that deficit is sand laying on Hollywood Beach, which has now turned into a sand dune.	03:31:17
	Which now the Coastal Commission is coming in and saying you can't touch it.	03:31:25
	And they talk about the sand trap and the sand and.	03:31:28
	And so it's all interconnected.	03:31:31
	It's all complicated.	03:31:34
	You get all these different agencies involved.	03:31:37
	So.	03:31:39
	I don't think it's ever going to be as clear as it it it.	03:31:40
	We'd like it to be.	03:31:43
	And.	03:31:49
	In terms of.	03:31:50
	This year.	03:31:52
	We had to.	03:31:53
	Scramble.	03:31:56
	And we're still don't have it.	03:31:58
	Is not guaranteed. The work plan hasn't been issued.	03:32:00
	Right. Yeah, we got confirmation that the funding is there, but there's still a couple steps. That's it's it's.	03:32:04
	We've got 2 steps down and I think 2:00 to go.	03:32:10
	Right. And we had a representative beacon was in Washington last week, I think Brian Brennan and advocating for us and.	03:32:13
	But we're still trying to pin this thing down, and it's so important because if we don't.	03:32:20
	We're going to be potentially in a world of hurt.	03:32:24
	And you know, we just finished our budget.	03:32:28
	Last time it cost our.	03:32:30
	Unexpected.	03:32:33
	Expenses of $2,000,000. You know we had to lay down RIP rap and rocks.	03:32:34
	To protect Surfside Drive and we lost sidewalk and Surfside Drive and so.	03:32:39
	That's why it's critically important that we get this dredge operation back here in October so we could avoid that.	03:32:44
	You know, it's, it's frustrating.	03:32:53
	In the fact that we got shorted.	03:32:55
	Big time.	03:32:59
	And now?	03:33:00
	Were have uncertainty.	03:33:02
	Regarding whether we're going to get the dredge here back in October.	03:33:06
	So I think.	03:33:09
	And then?	03:33:11
	We just had a meeting, a Beacon meeting this past Friday. Where?	03:33:13
	You know we, we.	03:33:16
	I had the opportunity to discuss, OK, what additional efforts are we doing to make sure this happens?	03:33:18
	Because we're not. We're not there yet.	03:33:24
	Funding there, but but we're not there yet and so.	03:33:26
	I don't know Mark has a hard time from Malibu or the hills where he lives, but.	03:33:30
	I don't know, maybe we could follow up.	03:33:34
	If we have questions in writing to him.	03:33:37
	Any other questions? Yeah, I got it. Go right here.	03:33:42
	So it seems like beacon.	03:33:45
	Is not working.	03:33:47
	What it sounds like, they're not.	03:33:48
	Successfully lobbying at all, I mean, we, we, we talked about.	03:33:50
	Using the port.	03:33:55
	While they're in Washington to lobby.	03:33:57
	We talked about RDP.	03:34:00
	Taking tours with.	03:34:02
	Our congressional leaders to lobby.	03:34:04
	And it seemed like that was very effective.	03:34:07
	But yet.	03:34:09
	Beacon didn't do anything.	03:34:10
	So I'm just using your words when we talked about this, if that was effective.	03:34:13
	Then we would have the work plan right now.	03:34:18
	Well, we didn't get the sand, you know we're you're blaming.	03:34:20
	Money. You're blaming Mother Nature.	03:34:25
	For for something that we got.	03:34:28
	But it's not because we didn't get it.	03:34:30
	Equipment broke.	03:34:34
	So, umm.	03:34:35
	I think this all.	03:34:36
	Point effort actually worked.	03:34:37
	And we're just waiting now on a timeline. It seems like we got earmarked.	03:34:41
	But to bash other organizations because they're not helping you did you did that.	03:34:45
	You bash the port and RDP.	03:34:51
	And Army Corps engineer? Yeah, you did.	03:34:54
	All I'm saying I was using your own word. It wasn't being efficient.	03:34:58
	But in reality.	03:35:02
	It all.	03:35:03
	So we're.	03:35:05
	The efforts being pushed city managers.	03:35:06
	Working with.	03:35:09
	Beacon working with the.	03:35:10
	And I think we're it's, we're being effective.	03:35:14
	You know and.	03:35:16
	We will continue to talk about this until we get the sand on the beach so.	03:35:17
	OK, great.	03:35:21
	Did you have anything?	03:35:24
	I just want to follow up with that. I don't think it was any of these agencies.	03:35:26
	Not working together, that was a problem. I think it was the state and the federal fighting over a permit.	03:35:31
	That was the reason why I failed last time. I mean, there's.	03:35:36
	I think all the agencies that are working together are doing the best they can.	03:35:39
	With what they have and we should just keep.	03:35:42
	Being positive and supporting them and pushing their efforts.	03:35:45
	Yeah, and just reminded me the air pollution credits.	03:35:48
	They were pulled on.	03:35:52
	That caused us a problem.	03:35:54
	So there's so many ongoing parts.	03:35:56
	And uh.	03:35:59
	The Navy. The port.	03:36:01
	City, we all have to continuously work together then, notwithstanding the fact that there is a history.	03:36:04
	4050 What is it? 60-70 year history here.	03:36:10
	Where there is a 30 million.	03:36:14
	That 30 million cubic yards of sand deficit.	03:36:17
	That's the facts.	03:36:21
	Now, I'm not blaming RDP or blaming the Navy or blaming the port.	03:36:23
	It's this.	03:36:26
	Bureaucracy that we have to operate in.	03:36:28
	It's very difficult.	03:36:31
	Even when we have our.	03:36:33
	Champion our respected Congresswoman advocating for us.	03:36:34
	We decisions are made that don't fulfill the obligation.	03:36:40
	And the obligation is mimic Mother Nature 2.4 million cubic yards of sand every two years and so.	03:36:45
	If we are going to maintain Winemi Beach.	03:36:52
	And if we're going to have an environment?	03:36:55
	That, uh.	03:36:58
	Create sand dunes for the least turn the snowy plover We need to have that sand.	03:36:59
	And it's just that simple. So yeah, I am a little critical.	03:37:04
	Because we've never been able to get it right over all these years and it's frustrating.	03:37:07
	Yeah, and you could roll your eyes and that's fine.	03:37:13
	You smacked your lips or something but.	03:37:15
	You know, it's frustrating.	03:37:18
	It's frustrating.	03:37:20
	Because.	03:37:23
	We disrupted the natural flow of sand and all we have to do is mimic Mother Nature every two years.	03:37:25
	Councilmember OK. I want to thank Councilwoman Perez for her statements and clarifying.	03:37:31
	The reality of this situation, and I don't think it's that complicated to understand that.	03:37:37
	We are the recipient of the sand. We are not the only community in the United States who's dealing with coastal erosion.	03:37:43
	In my.	03:37:53
	Meetings.	03:37:54
	Through League of California Cities and SCAG, I talked to other.	03:37:55
	Coastal communities and they're going through the same.	03:38:00
	Thing trying to protect their shoreline.	03:38:03
	And working with the Corps of Engineers and others have Navy bases in their communities as well, so we are not unique in that.	03:38:06
	What we are unique in is we do have Beacon. Beacon was not there to.	03:38:15
	Be the lead advocate for.	03:38:20
	For Port Hueneme's beach problems they have.	03:38:24
	Been willing to help.	03:38:27
	But the simple simplified arrangement is.	03:38:29
	We need to understand that the county is the lead agency.	03:38:33
	County Harbors is who we work.	03:38:37
	Through to do our advocacy and and we work.	03:38:39
	With Congresswoman Brownlee's office.	03:38:43
	That's those two points that we need to those are the two people we should be talking to and then that's it.	03:38:46
	I mean, of course, Beacon, if they can help advocate, that's great, but we don't.	03:38:52
	Put the onus on them alone and when we have the opportunities to talk about this and we go to DC.	03:38:56
	We do that.	03:39:02
	And we talked to Congressman when Brownie's office and we do ask for money and she has come through.	03:39:03
	What? Two years ago she came through for us and the money's here now.	03:39:11
	The money has been allocated to do the dredging, but for reasons that.	03:39:16
	Councilman. Woman.	03:39:20
	Perez had referred to and the situation this year.	03:39:22
	You know, things happen out of our control.	03:39:27
	Umm. And so we just have to do the best we can.	03:39:29
	And be grateful that we've got these agencies to work with and we should foster good working relationships with them and not be so	03:39:33
	critical that they're not.	03:39:39
	Doing enough?	03:39:44
	My intent in raising this issue here was that I just hope we can all get on the same page and all have the same understanding on	03:39:46
	how this this dredging cycle works.	03:39:51
	And the levels of government that we're working with and how we work through them.	03:39:57
	To get the money that we need.	03:40:02
	So I think I'd like if we can get staff to go back and get a.	03:40:04
	Correct understanding of.	03:40:08
	Of how this is supposed to work.	03:40:10
	At least.	03:40:13
	Make correct remarks.	03:40:14
	And, you know, accurate.	03:40:16
	Comments and.	03:40:19
	At least that.	03:40:21
	So.	03:40:22
	If I may.	03:40:23
	So I just we just had a beacon meeting last.	03:40:24
	Week last Friday in a.	03:40:28
	Over the last six years.	03:40:30
	There has been a transformation of.	03:40:32
	Beacon into a lead agency wall. An agency that is about sand replenishment.	03:40:35
	And one of the.	03:40:42
	Major projects that we've just.	03:40:44
	Muscled through, it's very difficult.	03:40:47
	Was uh.	03:40:49
	Getting.	03:40:51
	The Coastal Commission.	03:40:52
	And others.	03:40:53
	City county governments to realize that each section is different.	03:40:55
	And we?	03:40:59
	Beacon has LED.	03:41:01
	On a new design of debris basins.	03:41:03
	And because what we've learned over the last.	03:41:07
	Decade. Decades. Many years.	03:41:10
	We've cut off the flow of sediment to the beaches, so it's not necessarily sea level rise, it's that.	03:41:12
	We have a freeway, we have catch basins and we collect the sediment that would be sand on a beach and we put it in trucks and we	03:41:19
	take it to a landfill.	03:41:24
	And the aha moment.	03:41:29
	Was.	03:41:31
	The Montecito mudslide.	03:41:32
	When the 101 was closed for three weeks.	03:41:34
	And the California Coastal Commission was.	03:41:37
	Arguing.	03:41:42
	That it's the wrong grain size. You can't take it to the ocean, you have to take it to the landfill and that's what happened.	03:41:43
	And so at Beacon, we always say every mountain wants to become a beach, every coastal mountain wants to become a beach.	03:41:50
	And so this new design of this catch basin is?	03:41:55
	Designed to allow sediment to keep moving towards the beach.	03:42:00
	And this is a huge, huge.	03:42:05
	The the presentation, the.	03:42:09
	Presenter that we had Mr.	03:42:12
	Last week.	03:42:15
	Said Mr. Roth.	03:42:17
	He said.	03:42:20
	It's a monumental change for the California Coastal Commission to realize that each coastal zone is different.	03:42:22
	Now, does Winimi have a catch basin? No.	03:42:29
	Does Oxnard have a catch basin? No.	03:42:33
	Ventura has one right outside the house.	03:42:36
	Out, you know, that's what you cross a Ventura River, they have catch basins up, up, along, up the seacoast to Santa Barbara,	03:42:39
	Rincon and all that.	03:42:43
	You know so.	03:42:48
	Realizing that every.	03:42:49
	Coastal zone is different. You have to have a different.	03:42:51
	Method.	03:42:54
	And here in the city of Port Hueneme, Hueneme Beach, 100% dependent on the manual.	03:42:55
	Bypass of sand or the port of whene be.	03:43:01
	I mean, that's how we get our sand, the sand that ends up at.	03:43:04
	Hollywood Beach.	03:43:07
	Comes from the Santa Clara River.	03:43:08
	And like Doctor Kiki, Patch has been educating us on And is that?	03:43:11
	The inflows have to match the outflows or you're going to have too little sand or too much sand.	03:43:16
	And beacon.	03:43:22
	Is.	03:43:24
	Leading in these areas to get.	03:43:26
	These bureaucracies like the California Coastal Commission to change their way of thinking.	03:43:31
	So, umm.	03:43:37
	I'm really excited.	03:43:39
	Of that ground shift.	03:43:41
	And again the way.	03:43:45
	The way.	03:43:47
	Mr. Roth described it was earth shattering for the Coastal Commission to pivot the way they pivot.	03:43:48
	And what they did is.	03:43:56
	They allowed allowed a project.	03:43:58
	To where we could take.	03:44:01
	Sand from a debris basin.	03:44:03
	And deposit it on Carpinteria Beach.	03:44:07
	So that the ocean could do its thing and move the sediment along the beach.	03:44:10
	And they're very, very.	03:44:15
	They weren't supportive.	03:44:18
	Then they became.	03:44:19
	Timidly supportive.	03:44:21
	And now they've made the full circle then like, hey, this is a path forward.	03:44:23
	Because.	03:44:27
	We have to find a way to get sediment to the beaches up coast now.	03:44:28
	Here in me.	03:44:33
	It's all about dredging and that's just the fact of it. So.	03:44:34
	I think beacons doing great in terms of.	03:44:38
	Having an impact, a positive impact on coastal regions.	03:44:42
	Um, and I think.	03:44:48
	I think we.	03:44:50
	Are benefited by.	03:44:53
	Being aligned with them and.	03:44:54
	And them advocating lobbying, education efforts, whatever it takes.	03:44:56
	And.	03:45:02
	I look forward to continue the progress that we've we've made the positive progress that we've made and we've made some pretty	03:45:05
	good.	03:45:08
	Pretty good. Uh uh.	03:45:11
	Pivots.	03:45:13
	Councilmember Perez.	03:45:15
	I don't have anything, I just want to.	03:45:16
	Move forward.	03:45:18
	Are we doing a motion to receive and ask for corrections on? Can I just make one, one statement? So I just wanted to put it on the	03:45:19
	record that I got an opportunity to sit down and talk to a Supervisor Lopez from the 5th District, who is our district	03:45:25
	representative on the Board of Supervisors.	03:45:31
	And she provided me some information, historical information. She has a.	03:45:38
	Folks that are in her office working on this all the time.	03:45:44
	And so I did get a summary that I passed on to our city manager.	03:45:48
	And so I think success is getting sand.	03:45:53
	And so.	03:45:57
	As long as we get sand and.	03:45:58
	Are not skipped over and don't get any sand.	03:46:01
	I think the process that is being worked.	03:46:04
	Is working.	03:46:06
	Hopefully one day we'll catch up.	03:46:07
	But as long as we have representation and folks are.	03:46:09
	Advocating for not just us, but up the coast.	03:46:13
	I think we're doing a good job and I think.	03:46:18
	We've heard about the issues that we've had over the last year or so.	03:46:21
	Last year with the permits.	03:46:25
	But.	03:46:27
	The the fact is.	03:46:29
	The funding has been there.	03:46:31
	I understand this is what was communicated to me. There's one dredging.	03:46:33
	Piece of equipment.	03:46:37
	And there's a time span by which the dredging must take place.	03:46:38
	Or the dredge equipment has to move on.	03:46:43
	And so the money's there. We just are waiting now to see if we can get the dredge equipment back.	03:46:46
	To do the work so.	03:46:52
	We're getting the money, we're getting the sand.	03:46:53
	We have some circumstances that prohibited us from getting the sand that was available to us this year.	03:46:57
	And we're hoping to get that.	03:47:02
	But I think if we continue.	03:47:04
	To stay connected to the folks.	03:47:05
	That have the ears up and.	03:47:08
	Congresswoman Brownlee's doing wonderful work, but I think most of the information that goes to her is not from Port Hueneme.	03:47:11
	I think is coming from the Board of Supervisors and those above us.	03:47:18
	And so we just need to be continued to be on RDP. It's important continue to be on all these other.	03:47:22
	Committees and commissions that are allowing us to.	03:47:32
	You know, to whisper in the ears of the people who have the authority to do what we need them to do.	03:47:36
	And so I think we've been pretty successful.	03:47:40
	At that the work of us and the work of our city manager and others. So really appreciate that and with that.	03:47:42
	Anything else?	03:47:49
	We can move on. OK, great.	03:47:51
	So this is just a receive.	03:47:53
	And file so city manager you.	03:47:56
	Yeah, I think just to receive and file and I'll ask for clarification on that one point.	03:48:00
	I think the only reason, the only way we would really need to take any action would be if there was like a specific.	03:48:06
	A task that the Council wanted to ask.	03:48:11
	Or, you know, our goal that the Council wanted to ask begin to add.	03:48:14
	But umm.	03:48:18
	Otherwise it's just a receive and file and we'll get clarification.	03:48:19
	On that.	03:48:24
	On those first bullets, OK.	03:48:26
	Great.	03:48:29
	So let's can I get a motion on the 2nd to receive?	03:48:30
	And for city manager, go out.	03:48:33
	So moved.	03:48:35
	2nd.	03:48:37
	Thank you, Madam Clerk.	03:48:39
	All in favor.	03:48:41
	All opposed.	03:48:43
	Hearing none, motion passes unanimously.	03:48:44
	Great. Let's move to number item number 11, City Hall Electric vehicle charger update will staff.	03:48:47
	Yes, thank you. And this is umm.	03:48:54
	It's a little bit different of an item I think.	03:48:57
	It's mostly that we wanted to sort of.	03:48:59
	Give an update.	03:49:03
	To the council and to the community on something that we're looking at and something that'll be changing.	03:49:04
	It's not a very costly item, so it wouldn't.	03:49:12
	Typically need to be.	03:49:15
	You know, separately approved, but it was more about wanting to provide some information.	03:49:17
	And in a nutshell.	03:49:23
	Cities, especially cities that actually added an EV chart electric vehicle charging station early on.	03:49:28
	There was really no standard charger at that time.	03:49:34
	So a lot of cities well.	03:49:38
	Almost across the board is like every city sort of bought.	03:49:40
	The charger with the hope that it would be.	03:49:44
	You know that it would.	03:49:48
	Sort of be.	03:49:50
	Available permanently.	03:49:52
	But what has happened is.	03:49:54
	Over the years, with this being new technology is almost all of those early chargers are sort of going.	03:49:56
	Down or shutting down or losing functionality.	03:50:03
	And so.	03:50:06
	A lot of cities and other agencies, I think if you go visit the port, for example, either of their parking lots.	03:50:08
	Have moved to charge point chargers which are sort of the standard now.	03:50:14
	And most city halls.	03:50:19
	Have those. The port has those. Other agencies have those.	03:50:22
	It makes it very easy because anybody with an electric vehicle just has to have one account and they can use any of those chargers	03:50:26
	versus, you know, each city having its own charger and having to get a separate account.	03:50:31
	And preload money onto each account.	03:50:37
	And so.	03:50:40
	We were aware of this, but our chargers had.	03:50:42
	Continued to work, but we're getting to a point coming up.	03:50:45
	Soon.	03:50:49
	Some of the functionality is going to start disappearing.	03:50:51
	And potentially the ability to recover the costs for electricity usage.	03:50:54
	As well.	03:50:58
	That's a challenge for us, especially in this budget time. Not that we're looking to buy new chargers, but if we can't charge for	03:51:00
	the electricity and recover the cost, then that's going to end up impacting our general fund.	03:51:05
	And so.	03:51:11
	We wanted to really just bring this forward to explain that and then to note that what we're going to do is we're going to try to.	03:51:12
	Look for some.	03:51:21
	Grant funding. We actually had a potentially a grant that we were already looking at.	03:51:22
	And then look at.	03:51:27
	Trying to obtain a charge point charger and remove the current charger and swap it with a charge point charger.	03:51:28
	And so we're asking Council.	03:51:36
	Um.	03:51:40
	Authorize staff to replace.	03:51:41
	The current charger and to.	03:51:44
	Seek that are an authorization to seek grant those grant opportunities.	03:51:51
	Along with.	03:51:56
	The next step that we'll be looking to do is coming back to council.	03:51:57
	And also recommending.	03:52:01
	Adjusting the cost for the electricity.	03:52:05
	I think that's another thing that.	03:52:08
	When we started, a lot of cities kind of set the electricity rates and most of the cities set it at the same level. But overtime a	03:52:10
	lot of cities have increased their rates and it's something that.	03:52:14
	We looked very quickly and I think it was in the report.	03:52:19
	For example, Camarillo.	03:52:23
	Charges $1.88 per hour to charge and we charge $1.60 per hour, so we'd look at.	03:52:25
	The cities look at our electric.	03:52:31
	Rates and then make a recommendation to increase the rate.	03:52:33
	Which would.	03:52:36
	I'll pay for the electricity but also offset the cost of providing the chargers so.	03:52:37
	So.	03:52:42
	Again, no real like specific action, it's just informing the council and then trying to get the direction to.	03:52:44
	To move forward with that and coming back to council to look at those costs.	03:52:51
	So.	03:52:59
	You just have a level 2 charter.	03:53:01
	What about a Level 3?	03:53:04
	Which is the rapid chargers.	03:53:06
	Because when?	03:53:08
	When that level twos, that means the car is going to stay there up to 8 hours.	03:53:10
	And when?	03:53:16
	When they're they're in use, that means it's tied up.	03:53:18
	So have we even thought about looking at Level 3 chargers?	03:53:22
	We haven't looked at Level 3 yet.	03:53:25
	There is some sort of future planning and we're actually talking to the county.	03:53:28
	Sort of a countrywide electric vehicle charger program where they'd actually be able to provide some.	03:53:33
	And so we can.	03:53:39
	Through that, we can try to advocate for Level 2 or Level 3 chargers.	03:53:41
	We didn't consider it here because here.	03:53:46
	We're just looking to swap the current with.	03:53:49
	With that.	03:53:52
	New or, you know, with the new version of that same thing without, you know, the additional infrastructure.	03:53:53
	Costs and everything.	03:53:59
	I will say.	03:54:01
	The level 2 chargers, a lot of places call them like destination chargers because the idea is that.	03:54:04
	You know, somebody, for example, drives to Port Hueneme and wants to go to the beach for the day. They can actually park their car	03:54:11
	and go to the beach. You don't walk to the beach.	03:54:15
	Whereas a Level 3 charger.	03:54:19
	Is really for that like fast like 15 minute charge, 1520 minute charge?	03:54:22
	And the challenge with that and why a lot of cities with level 2 is?	03:54:26
	Is actually wanting to encourage people to like.	03:54:30
	Stay in the city, like visit the city, you know.	03:54:32
	Versus drive in, sit in your car, charge it for 15 minutes, drive out.	03:54:35
	So I have actually.	03:54:39
	In the past looked at like.	03:54:41
	You know, the goal is you want, you want both, you really want like you want to have both, but.	03:54:43
	For City Hall's, having that level 2 isn't necessarily a bad thing if the.	03:54:47
	As far as having that destination charger option.	03:54:53
	But umm.	03:54:56
	So I think we will.	03:54:57
	Try to look at.	03:54:59
	Like the options for Level 3 chargers.	03:55:00
	Some cities have even been able to get some of the providers to actually, you know, pay to put a Level 3 charger in to give that	03:55:03
	option. So that's something we can try to see if there's interest in.	03:55:08
	But for now, this item was just replacing level 2, Level 2 at as low a cost as we.	03:55:13
	Council member comma.	03:55:22
	So we're going to replace the entire unit. I was under the impression that where it was a software.	03:55:25
	Like if we go to this new service provider, we're just going to update the software and use the same equipment.	03:55:31
	It's most likely going to be the entire unit.	03:55:38
	We're still.	03:55:41
	We got the notice that this was going to happen very.	03:55:42
	Last minute.	03:55:46
	Like early last week.	03:55:47
	And.	03:55:50
	We're still getting exact clarification of.	03:55:54
	What needs to be replaced? But I believe it's the charger. The charger as a whole.	03:55:57
	But if we're able to.	03:56:02
	Just replace the platform and then still we're able to still charge at that point, then we'd probably just or we would just	03:56:04
	replace that portion of it. Have we broken?	03:56:09
	Even over the life of these chargers? Or are we subsidizing those who use them?	03:56:14
	I pretty.	03:56:20
	Simply could say.	03:56:22
	And a lot of cities chose to do this. I don't know if this was actually part of the.	03:56:24
	Thought process, but I know.	03:56:28
	Prior city when we put charges in, the City Council actually wanted to subsidize the cost to encourage people to.	03:56:30
	You know.	03:56:36
	Remember the Chargers, especially early on, they were actually part of meeting like.	03:56:38
	City's general plan goals as far as it relates to reducing emissions and things like that.	03:56:43
	So a lot of cities actually did choose to subsidize the cost of the electricity to encourage the conversion.	03:56:50
	But I think what's happening and when we mentioned.	03:56:56
	Camarillo is, I think a lot of cities now are at the point where they're done subsidizing those costs and they're starting to	03:56:58
	adjust them.	03:57:02
	And I think.	03:57:05
	I do believe.	03:57:06
	What with what our rates currently are at?	03:57:08
	We're subsidizing it a bit.	03:57:12
	So we would try to look at.	03:57:14
	Adjusting that.	03:57:16
	So.	03:57:19
	She had her hands already. Yeah, Councilmember, I just wanted to make a comment. Has the councils the cities representative on the	03:57:21
	Clean Power Alliance board?	03:57:25
	That there is some grant money available for chargers. I just heard a presentation at our last meeting and I was at the their	03:57:30
	annual conference so.	03:57:35
	CPA is doing a real good job, yeah. And they're flush with money right now, so I think.	03:57:40
	Definitely, I'll keep my eyes open for.	03:57:46
	Potential.	03:57:49
	Potential grants and I will get you that information on whatever you're interested in that for sure.	03:57:50
	Mayor Pro Tem, yes. So the way I interpreted this because I use charging stations a lot, especially if out of town.	03:57:55
	So what this charging station is, it's a it's.	03:58:02
	It's it's called charge point and what it does is you got to have the app.	03:58:06
	And you. You.	03:58:10
	You have to recognize it with.	03:58:11
	With your car so.	03:58:13
	Other charge point like easy go you, you just plug in and you just tap your card and it starts charging.	03:58:15
	That doesn't have that capability.	03:58:22
	So it's it's just the difference that it almost seems like the whole.	03:58:24
	Stan needs to be replaced with with their.	03:58:28
	Way of communicating and charging.	03:58:31
	That's how I interpret this.	03:58:33
	This was written.	03:58:35
	Yeah, correct. And that's where and then starting June 1st, so there even the existing functionality, some of that.	03:58:37
	Is going away, so it's really not going to be as functional as like those charge point.	03:58:43
	Chargers are.	03:58:48
	Can I just ask?	03:58:50
	So our.	03:58:52
	Are we expected to get this done before the changes in June come and we?	03:58:53
	Are not able to collect fees.	03:58:59
	We're going to try to.	03:59:01
	And I think that's why one of the reasons, like I said, it sort of happened quickly.	03:59:02
	We weren't.	03:59:07
	Like, we hadn't really thought about the Chargers in a while. It was working and, you know, kind of.	03:59:08
	You know what, it was working. If it's not broken, don't fix it. And then we got notice.	03:59:14
	Last week.	03:59:17
	Like it's like by the way, they're going to stop working.	03:59:18
	So we wanted to put an item on the agenda, explain it.	03:59:21
	But.	03:59:25
	Like realize because.	03:59:26
	Like we're gonna look at some options and it.	03:59:27
	And then we'll probably move pretty quick.	03:59:30
	And so we wanted everybody to know what's going on because if all of a sudden.	03:59:32
	If we can.	03:59:37
	Identify some funding.	03:59:39
	Get a charge point charger and replace it. People might see us out there working in two weeks. You know what have you.	03:59:40
	But umm.	03:59:46
	But obviously June 5th, June 1st is very quick, so there is a possibility that you know.	03:59:47
	That there might be.	03:59:54
	Gap there where the system doesn't work and and.	03:59:56
	In which case our understanding from talking to them is that if the system is down, somebody can plug in and it's just free	04:00:00
	electricity should not have said that. And so I was trying not to say that, but I'm trying.	04:00:06
	Yeah, the challenge of answering the question but but.	04:00:13
	Yeah, yeah. But we don't.	04:00:17
	It's a challenge, and I guess this is.	04:00:19
	Part of why we wanted to talk about this is.	04:00:21
	We know that providing that service is important.	04:00:23
	So I think, you know, that's where the Council can always tell us we're going down the wrong path, but.	04:00:27
	Where I ended up was.	04:00:32
	Let's try to get a replacement.	04:00:33
	And get it in as soon as possible and as soon as we can.	04:00:35
	You know, as soon as we can figure out the funding.	04:00:38
	But in the meantime, we're going to.	04:00:40
	Leave it.	04:00:42
	And we're going to try to make it work as long as, you know, as long as we can.	04:00:43
	What is the? What is the generally the?	04:00:47
	The amount of.	04:00:51
	Funds revenue that is received in a month.	04:00:54
	I mean, it's a good question. I don't have that number off hand. I can.	04:00:57
	I can.	04:01:03
	We'll try to get that. I was trying to do the math in my head while I was. Yeah, I was just one. Yeah. Just a question you don't	04:01:05
	have to answer me. I was just wondering if we if we missed that that timeline, we had to go a month or two. What would that be? I	04:01:09
	think it's.	04:01:14
	Pretty minimal. I mean, even if.	04:01:18
	It's not in use 24 hours a day, but even if it was in use 24 hours a day, it's about, well, that would be about what, $40 a day,	04:01:21
	let's say.	04:01:25
	And so times 30.	04:01:30
	Is, you know, starts getting up there $1200. So that's where and I think that's where.	04:01:31
	We said.	04:01:38
	You know our.	04:01:39
	We're going to try to make a couple calls, try to get a couple like see about some grants. But if not.	04:01:42
	I'm just recommending we just buy.	04:01:47
	A charger and try to replace it.	04:01:49
	Yeah, because it does add up after.	04:01:51
	Month or two.	04:01:53
	Right. And I know you said Ventura County, I do know that APCD actually supports the Ev's as well and they fund some. So I'm not	04:01:54
	really sure who you, but I don't know what the timeline is when they have those. Yeah, that's the challenge we've actually been in	04:01:58
	conversations for a while with.	04:02:03
	The county and some other groups about.	04:02:08
	There was interest in adding chargers.	04:02:10
	In the city.	04:02:13
	Yeah, we actually talked to the library recently.	04:02:15
	And we're all talking about.	04:02:18
	Partnering on a like a grant that would provide.	04:02:20
	Chargers at the library parking lot, for example.	04:02:23
	So we're we're working on some of those things, this one just kind of.	04:02:26
	Wasn't the thing we were expecting to.	04:02:30
	To happen quite so quick.	04:02:33
	Are we moving to a non subsidy?	04:02:35
	So what we bring back rate options and it would be, you know, potentially the full cost recovery and then the council would have	04:02:39
	the choice of whether to subsidize that.	04:02:43
	But we plan to.	04:02:49
	We plan to recommend.	04:02:50
	Adjusting the rate because I think it is outdated at this point. Electricity is.	04:02:52
	Gone up quite a bit.	04:02:56
	So is there a means to recover your investment or is that?	04:02:59
	Yeah. If we don't get it grant funded, then you know building in the cost of that.	04:03:06
	OK.	04:03:11
	Mayor Pro Tem, did you have anything?	04:03:12
	OK, great.	04:03:14
	Madam Clerk, do we have any public comments?	04:03:16
	No public comments.	04:03:18
	Great, so we have before us a receive.	04:03:20
	An update regarding the EV chargers at City Hall potentially losing the ability to recover cost.	04:03:25
	Is there a motion and a second?	04:03:32
	To receive.	04:03:35
	Move to receive.	04:03:37
	2nd.	04:03:39
	Thank you.	04:03:41
	Is this an approval or just to receive the report? We were asking for that because how we said the others, Yeah. And you know,	04:03:45
	there's a few paths where we said, yeah, this could be just removing it. We're asking for approval to.	04:03:51
	That direction, to approve replacing the charger I would draw my motion.	04:03:58
	Move to approve.	04:04:02
	Thank you.	04:04:03
	Thank you any discussion.	04:04:05
	Madam Clerk, please take a vote all in favor.	04:04:08
	All opposed.	04:04:11
	Hearing none, motion passes unanimously.	04:04:13
	Great. Thank you. We'll move now to the city Manager. Comments and reports.	04:04:15
	Yes, I have a few.	04:04:19
	Few quick things. I think 1 is somehow a week from today is Memorial Day. It does not feel like.	04:04:21
	Like it's already Memorial Day.	04:04:30
	Right. Is that right? A week from today, yeah.	04:04:32
	And so.	04:04:34
	So a week from today, we are having our 2025 Memorial Day ceremony.	04:04:36
	At Port Hueneme Pier at 8:30 AM.	04:04:42
	People may remember this last year we had the first ever paddle out with our lifeguard and.	04:04:46
	Team and members of the public and so.	04:04:52
	We are.	04:04:55
	Planning to continue that tradition and and information will be going out on that.	04:04:56
	In the next day or two.	04:05:00
	So keep an eye on social media and.	04:05:04
	And our Facebook page for that information.	04:05:06
	We also are currently.	04:05:10
	Still accepting applications for the Veterans Advisory Ad Hoc Committee.	04:05:13
	We are accepting applications through 5:00 PM on June 2nd, 2025.	04:05:17
	I think we've heard a few people that were interested, but we typically get most of the applications in about the last week or so,	04:05:22
	so.	04:05:26
	Think we'll be getting applications for that?	04:05:30
	And then we wanted to highlight two upcoming.	04:05:35
	Event slash programs.	04:05:41
	We're holding a coffee with your city on Wednesday, June 11th at 9:00 AM.	04:05:43
	At Wednesday, June 11th, 9:00 AM to 10:00 AM at Anna Cappuccino.	04:05:49
	And so we're inviting everybody to come out to that event.	04:05:54
	And then?	04:05:59
	Council had approved.	04:06:00
	A new program.	04:06:02
	That's essentially a stem.	04:06:04
	Science Technology.	04:06:06
	I forgot what the E is. Science, technology? Is it experience, experiential? I'm not sure.	04:06:09
	But in mathematics.	04:06:14
	But STEM program.	04:06:17
	Camp and so we are launching that summer camp program.	04:06:20
	And so information just went up. I saw it on.	04:06:25
	Instagram and Facebook.	04:06:29
	For the program, $95 per week.	04:06:32
	For five to 12 year olds and the dates there of the different options.	04:06:35
	So we're excited about that program. I think we got good feedback that a lot of people were seeing.	04:06:40
	That it's something that has been.	04:06:47
	Um, wanted for a while, so we're hoping that.	04:06:50
	That, uh.	04:06:54
	Everybody's interested, so.	04:06:55
	That's available now.	04:06:57
	And then?	04:06:59
	Last the June 2nd, 2025 Agenda forecast.	04:07:00
	We expect to have presentations.	04:07:05
	1st is the Pride Month proclamation.	04:07:08
	2nd is the Army Corps of Engineers Birthday and Anniversary proclamation.	04:07:12
	And then we have public hearings.	04:07:17
	It's a heavy agenda, but it's sort of to be expected with the budget and budget related items. We'll have public hearings.	04:07:19
	For umm.	04:07:26
	The budget but this item listed above is actually a new state law requirement that each year before the city adopt A budget, the	04:07:27
	city has to give a.	04:07:31
	Status report on vacancies, recruitment and retention efforts.	04:07:35
	That's in response to.	04:07:39
	A lot of cities have really struggled to maintain staffing just like.	04:07:41
	If people remember after COVID.	04:07:46
	Private businesses had a hard time getting staffing.	04:07:49
	And so.	04:07:51
	There's actually a state law put into place that each city has to give an update on if you know how they recruit.	04:07:52
	Recruiting and how they can recruit.	04:07:58
	Better if they have a lot of vacancies.	04:08:00
	So that has to come forward before the budget. So we'll have that and then the budget.	04:08:04
	We're continuing the public. We've continued the public hearing for Emerald Perspective, so that'll be coming back.	04:08:10
	And then?	04:08:15
	We have our assessment districts.	04:08:17
	Item which comes with the budget every year.	04:08:19
	And then that last item is the parking study workshop.	04:08:22
	We had said.	04:08:26
	Last year when the Council approved.	04:08:28
	Have us working with the traffic engineer to do a parking study.	04:08:30
	We had said we'd do a workshop with.	04:08:34
	With the ideas that we come forward with. So we're planning to do that workshop on June 2nd.	04:08:37
	And that'll be that.	04:08:43
	Then the last step after that is after that workshop then.	04:08:45
	Actual those items will come to council for approval or.	04:08:49
	Or denial.	04:08:54
	So hopefully approvals, but.	04:08:55
	So full agenda, but a lot of that is related to the budget, so.	04:08:58
	That is the plan for June 2nd, and with that I'm happy to answer.	04:09:03
	Any questions?	04:09:06
	I just have one question, City Manager.	04:09:08
	There was a request for Juneteenth.	04:09:12
	Presentation. I believe it's the meeting. The meeting after this meeting is June 16th.	04:09:14
	OK.	04:09:21
	June 16th.	04:09:24
	I know there is a Juneteenth celebration.	04:09:25
	OK. You just want to make sure they get it or present. Last year I represented the city or we can present it there. Yeah.	04:09:28
	I will double check the 14th.	04:09:36
	OK, we'll double check. I thought we had communicated with them that that it would be on the.	04:09:38
	June 16th agenda. But if not, then it can be.	04:09:44
	There's room on this.	04:09:48
	Agenda to swap that so.	04:09:49
	Councilmember.	04:09:55
	Hernandez So is there a.	04:09:56
	Time that the.	04:09:58
	Pride flag is going to be raised on June 1st.	04:10:00
	Umm, whereby we can have.	04:10:04
	People who are interested come and observe.	04:10:06
	Raising up the flag.	04:10:08
	We don't.	04:10:10
	I don't have a set time yet.	04:10:15
	I think.	04:10:17
	I was asking.	04:10:19
	If they had an approximate time, but I don't have it.	04:10:21
	Yet and so.	04:10:25
	And I wasn't.	04:10:26
	We were trying to just sort of.	04:10:28
	You know, do our normal process. So I was just asking them what time that they would expect to be there and to raise it. So I'll	04:10:30
	let the council know when we get that.	04:10:34
	Information. Thank you.	04:10:39
	I'll just say that the 16th is fine. The event is the 21st of June.	04:10:41
	OK, Yeah.	04:10:45
	Thought that it actually worked well on that second meeting but.	04:10:47
	We'll double check that.	04:10:50
	Any other any other questions for city manager?	04:10:52
	If not, we'll move on to a council member. Reports and comments. Councilmember Hernandez, I mean Perez.	04:10:56
	OK, great. Thank you.	04:11:05
	Councilmember Gamma.	04:11:06
	A beautiful person by the name of Romeo Ariano passed away.	04:11:07
	Of prostate cancer and.	04:11:14
	This is a person who I've seen on Winnie Me Pier every day for.	04:11:17
	Every day that I've been out there, he's been there and.	04:11:22
	And it was really sad. The last time I saw him he was wheelchair bound and.	04:11:25
	You know, obviously having difficulties.	04:11:30
	Anyways, his son contacted me and wants to know if we could put.	04:11:32
	Memorial plaque out for him.	04:11:37
	He absolutely loved the pair. And so I've been kind of.	04:11:39
	Looking. Thinking.	04:11:42
	And, umm.	04:11:44
	I noticed that.	04:11:45
	We only have.	04:11:47
	9 benches on the.	04:11:48
	And I was wondering if maybe we could consider.	04:11:52
	Allowing a family member.	04:11:55
	To buy a memorial bench for a family member.	04:11:57
	And then we could put it out on the pier.	04:12:01
	So, umm.	04:12:03
	I told.	04:12:05
	Romeo's son that I would bring it up and.	04:12:06
	I guess we'd have to put it on the agenda and discuss it, but.	04:12:10
	You know, and I.	04:12:14
	Kind of wondering like.	04:12:15
	There's an absence of benches on the pier. You would think we'd want to have a bench every 2030 feet.	04:12:19
	You know, but there's I think.	04:12:25
	During COVID.	04:12:27
	They were removed and I'm not sure if.	04:12:29
	They all went back.	04:12:32
	But I went out and counted 9.	04:12:34
	And so.	04:12:38
	Of the 9 benches.	04:12:39
	Five of them.	04:12:41
	Pretty much at the end of the pier.	04:12:42
	So there's.	04:12:45
	3 So there might be.	04:12:48
	Anyways.	04:12:50
	Anyways, I, I I guess I brought it up as a comment, but I guess I have to request an agenda item or you could give me guidance or	04:12:54
	yeah, I think the process would be a future agenda item request.	04:13:00
	For uh.	04:13:06
	You know, for a bench memorial.	04:13:09
	Process or policy? Essentially, yeah.	04:13:11
	Might save some time if you just well, won't save you time, but.	04:13:15
	The hero heritage.	04:13:18
	Policy is where?	04:13:20
	We normally go if we have that kind of request, so just write it up and submit it to the CAC.	04:13:22
	OK, yeah, let it go through the process. That's what I did for the Pedro Valdez.	04:13:29
	Yeah, and I think it would be a.	04:13:34
	It could be a valuable.	04:13:36
	Nice thing for the city to have.	04:13:38
	So I just wanted to.	04:13:42
	I know I have tone issues sometimes. Some people may think I'm.	04:13:45
	Angry or something, but I really am passionate in a.	04:13:48
	In regards to the port of Winemi.	04:13:54
	I I felt that some people.	04:13:58
	May had got the feeling that Gama wants to shut the port down. It's like, no.	04:14:00
	Not at all the case.	04:14:06
	The case is.	04:14:08
	Speaking for myself.	04:14:11
	We as a City Council person, I'm not speaking for the rest of us.	04:14:13
	But I want a thriving port.	04:14:18
	I want security, safety.	04:14:22
	The best roads in the county.	04:14:24
	I want the cleanest air possible.	04:14:28
	And the highest quality of life.	04:14:30
	With a thriving port.	04:14:33
	And I think if.	04:14:35
	And I think that's what we all want.	04:14:36
	And again, I just bring it up again like we have to have those conversations that matter to achieve these goals.	04:14:38
	I think those are the goals of any.	04:14:43
	Any municipality.	04:14:45
	And I hope that we could.	04:14:48
	Keep that in mind.	04:14:50
	It's all about safety, security, best roads, cleanest air, highest quality of life with a thriving port.	04:14:52
	VC Animal Services were at critical mass and it's just it's.	04:14:57
	We're flying.	04:15:02
	Animals to other states.	04:15:05
	To free up space.	04:15:07
	And.	04:15:10
	They're not going to euthanize animals to free up space.	04:15:12
	That's a good thing.	04:15:16
	However.	04:15:18
	When you're at full capacity.	04:15:19
	You know, disease, there's so many things that.	04:15:22
	Are critically.	04:15:25
	Hard to manage at Animal Services.	04:15:27
	So the Palisade fire really affected us.	04:15:31
	All cities, all of our cities need to promote spay and neutering.	04:15:37
	We have a new director, Esteban Rodriguez. He's he's.	04:15:42
	The best thing that's ever happened to VC Animal Services.	04:15:46
	And he's putting together a spay and neuter bus.	04:15:50
	So that we could take it out to communities.	04:15:55
	And talk to people on the ground and get animals spayed and neutered and.	04:15:58
	You know.	04:16:04
	We have to do increased public outreach.	04:16:06
	And it really is that critical mass and so.	04:16:09
	You know we.	04:16:13
	8800 animals in 2024 went through VC Animal Services so.	04:16:14
	You know.	04:16:20
	If you have an animal.	04:16:21
	Get it spayed. Get it neutered.	04:16:23
	O.	04:16:25
	Last month.	04:16:27
	They had.	04:16:28
	45 animals out.	04:16:30
	95 in.	04:16:32
	So you know the.	04:16:34
	The system is just being stressed to.	04:16:36
	To very difficult.	04:16:38
	Difficult levels.	04:16:43
	I want to work with Victor Gallardo on this thing and I think we.	04:16:48
	And then the last thing I want to say on this bike lane is that.	04:16:56
	You know, really.	04:17:01
	I I I get it, you know, having a bike lane is important.	04:17:03
	To some people.	04:17:07
	Not every people, not everybody, but.	04:17:09
	You know, having a safe bike lane is important to me and.	04:17:11
	I just cringe every time I see somebody on Ventura Road and there's that beautiful sidewalk next to the fence and I always say to	04:17:17
	myself, I would ride on the sidewalk.	04:17:21
	Why would I put myself at risk on the road? Share the road with the bikes you know and so.	04:17:26
	Maybe some point down the road we could really.	04:17:31
	Take a risk management approach to the bike lanes through Winimi because.	04:17:34
	We all know it's dangerous, extremely dangerous and.	04:17:40
	You know I don't.	04:17:45
	Think we have the means right now to?	04:17:46
	Accommodate any additional expenditures or.	04:17:49
	Projects, but I think.	04:17:52
	Grants. Maybe we could get some grant money or something.	04:17:53
	Today I saw auto transport.	04:17:59
	Truck empty.	04:18:02
	Nick, a signal when I was coming here for the meeting and I heard it and I'm like, what was that?	04:18:04
	I thought that was interesting. So that's it.	04:18:10
	OK, just real quick.	04:18:14
	At the last V Cog meeting.	04:18:16
	Last week I presented the plaque or the certificate to Hugh Riley.	04:18:19
	With a short words of thanks for his service to V Cog.	04:18:24
	And we also adopted or accepted the broadband plan, and that'll be coming to you, Mr. City Manager, real soon. I do have a copy,	04:18:28
	but the copies are the final.	04:18:33
	Drafts will be.	04:18:39
	Umm, distributed to all the cities and I just want to thank staff Aaron Wiedemier.	04:18:40
	And the city manager for their work and participation in that plan.	04:18:46
	Umm, coastal cleanup. I got a letter.	04:18:52
	The county They're already starting to plan for coastal cleanup.	04:18:55
	September and I'd like to, you know, sit down and.	04:18:58
	Talk about how we want to go about it this year, what kind of plans we want to make, if we want to change anything.	04:19:01
	Or make any adjustments in our plans?	04:19:08
	And.	04:19:11
	Other than that, that's all I have. I do want to ask for an adjournment.	04:19:14
	In honor memory of Michael Hyde, who was a resident here.	04:19:20
	In Port White Nemi and you might want to add your.	04:19:24
	General earperson 2.	04:19:27
	Michael Hyde And then you had a person also that passed away.	04:19:30
	Mario and Ariano, if we could adjourn in their memory.	04:19:34
	They were both residents here in Port Hueneme.	04:19:38
	And I'm sure I'm forgetting something but it's late so.	04:19:41
	I'm gonna pass on.	04:19:43
	Pass it on.	04:19:44
	And Councilmember Gama, you said Mario. I thought you said Romy.	04:19:45
	OK.	04:19:50
	Also want to add.	04:19:53
	Robert Aguilera, He was waiting Me Bay resident.	04:19:55
	I have no comments. OK, great. Thank you. Not great, but thank you. So so yeah, I had an opportunity to attend the World Trade	04:20:05
	Month event over at the port.	04:20:10
	Enjoyed that, learned a lot.	04:20:17
	I'll be attending the Board of Supervisors meeting tomorrow.	04:20:20
	The Ventura County Harbor Department will be.	04:20:24
	Presenting A proclamation to the Channel Islands Harbor.	04:20:27
	I think it's district.	04:20:31
	For their 60th anniversary. So I'll do that.	04:20:33
	Department, thank you.	04:20:36
	And so city managers helped me with some words so that I stayed kind of down the center.	04:20:37
	I did get an opportunity to attend the Savvy Senior event on this weekend.	04:20:43
	And very, very nice. I enjoyed myself. I took my sister along with me. Now she wants me to take her to everyone. So I've already	04:20:49
	registered for the 19th of June, which is gonna be the second prom.	04:20:55
	Event umm.	04:21:01
	And so dressing up.	04:21:02
	And so I'm excited about that. Well, I mean, I'm excited to take her.	04:21:03
	Yeah, they have a capacity of 250 and the registrations are open. So if you're interested, I understand that these this event	04:21:10
	pretty goes pretty fast so.	04:21:14
	Other than that, just participating in my.	04:21:19
	My monthly meetings I didn't miss my.	04:21:22
	VCTC Meeting.	04:21:26
	First week because I was out of town.	04:21:28
	But I'm back on track and I think next week we'll be having with BCTC, we'll have the second round of our budget.	04:21:31
	Review. So we'll be doing that.	04:21:39
	Believe this next week.	04:21:41
	So that's all I have.	04:21:42
	We can move on to a request for future agenda items.	04:21:45
	Anyone.	04:21:49
	Yeah, I want to request a future agenda item. I want a motion to study the southbound lane of Ventura Rd.	04:21:55
	And have staff recommend what can be done with the bicycle lane.	04:22:03
	From reading the e-mail.	04:22:11
	It sounded like.	04:22:12
	Some legwork has been done already.	04:22:14
	So as long as we can get.	04:22:17
	What? What's been done?	04:22:19
	Again, I know we don't have the funding for this, but I want to start.	04:22:22
	The study to see if it's even feasible because.	04:22:26
	Southbound goes 3 lanes.	04:22:29
	Northbound goes to.	04:22:31
	And we have a huge sidewalk.	04:22:33
	And so there is no bicycling.	04:22:35
	And it and that's a, that's a heavy bicycle traffic area.	04:22:38
	OK, so did you guys get my motion?	04:22:44
	If OK, so I'll say it again.	04:22:46
	I think we got it. I think we got it.	04:22:49
	OK, there's a motion on the floor. Second.	04:22:53
	Discussion.	04:23:00
	No, no discussion.	04:23:01
	Oh, sorry, sorry. Thank you. OK, all in favor.	04:23:04
	All opposed.	04:23:08
	If it's for clarification.	04:23:13
	Clarification on how.	04:23:14
	I think yeah, I was going to.	04:23:17
	That was kind of my I think based on what I heard.	04:23:19
	Yeah, that's true.	04:23:25
	Based on what I heard though, I think.	04:23:26
	It was. So the request in particular was basically starting with what have we already done?	04:23:28
	So I'll bring that.	04:23:34
	And we'll go from there because I don't know, we got the e-mail today. I did not look into it at all yet. So I don't know if it is	04:23:36
	something that we looked into and analyzed or if it's something that we, you know, what level it's at, so.	04:23:43
	We'll start with that.	04:23:49
	Great. Sounds good.	04:23:51
	All in favor.	04:23:53
	Aye, all opposed.	04:23:54
	Hearing none, motion passes unanimously.	04:23:57
	Is there anything else?	04:23:59
	Councilmember Gama.	04:24:01
	Just like to have a brief discussion of.	04:24:03
	Alex Lemonade.	04:24:07
	Not to spend money.	04:24:09
	But to lend support where we can.	04:24:11
	And I would.	04:24:14
	Gladly volunteer my.	04:24:15
	Time so.	04:24:17
	I think if we so.	04:24:18
	Next agenda.	04:24:20
	Call Victor back in.	04:24:21
	See what we're gonna do?	04:24:23
	I'm sorry.	04:24:27
	Do we even need an agenda for that? Aren't you already doing that? Is it something you're already planning on doing?	04:24:28
	I I was gonna reach out to them and, and when he spoke, he said.	04:24:34
	No cost. So I was going to reach out and see what we could do for no cost and if we're able to do that, we do it.	04:24:39
	Obviously the Council could still put it on the agenda, but I think what I would.	04:24:47
	Suggest is if we're able to support it at.	04:24:50
	No cost.	04:24:53
	Simply that we just have the ability to do that.	04:24:54
	OK. I'll withdraw that.	04:24:58
	Suggestion.	04:24:59
	If it turns into a more complicated conversation, then we'll.	04:25:01
	Let everybody know and then we can.	04:25:04
	Always come back.	04:25:06
	OK any other items?	04:25:07
	I just wanted to.	04:25:09
	Ask if we could try to keep our comments and our discussions per councilmember down maybe to 5 minutes. I know.	04:25:11
	Mayor Martinez used to enforce that.	04:25:19
	And I thought it was in the policies and procedures.	04:25:22
	But yeah, if we could just.	04:25:25
	Be respectful of staff time and the public's time and.	04:25:27
	Try to be more concise on our.	04:25:31
	Our discussions.	04:25:33
	Yeah, in the future.	04:25:37
	Thank you.	04:25:39
	OK, I don't have anything so.	04:25:42
	The next meeting is scheduled for Monday, June 2nd at 6:30.	04:25:48
	I'll now adjourn this meeting in the name of Romero Ariana.	04:25:53
	Michael.	04:25:58
	And Robert Aguilar.	04:25:59
	The meeting is now adjourned. It is 10/11.	04:26:02

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	1/2 public comments tonight.	00:00:00
	No public comments for closed session.	00:00:02
	Great. Thank you. Madam City Attorney, please read the closed session item into the record.	00:00:04
	Thank you, Madam Mayor. We have one matter going into closed session tonight.	00:00:10
	That is conference with legal counsel regarding existing litigation.	00:00:14
	Pursuant to Government Code section.	00:00:18
	549.	00:00:20
	56.9 D one.	00:00:21
	The number of cases is 1.	00:00:25
	Discussion with legal counsel on pending litigation.	00:00:27
	When discussion and open session would prejudice the agency in the litigation.	00:00:30
	And in this matter, let the record reflect that Councilmember Gama is going to recuse himself from this discussion.	00:00:35
	To the extent there is any reportable action at the conclusion of the closed session, I will report out.	00:00:42
	Great, thank you. Are there any other council members that have a conflict of interest with this topic?	00:00:48
	If not, we will now recess to closed session. The time is now 5.	00:00:55
	40 I just want to state that.	00:01:00
	I live within 1000 feet of said property and an abundance of caution. I'm going to recuse myself from this matter.	00:01:04
	Great. Thank you. I will now recess to closed session. The time is now 546.	00:01:11
	City Council regular meeting. I'm calling this meeting to order. The time is now 630.	00:44:25
	Please stand and join us for the flax loop.	00:44:30
	Over your heart.	00:44:37
	Ready. Begin.	00:44:38
	I pledge allegiance to the flag of the.	00:44:40
	Of the United States of America.	00:44:42
	And to the Republic.	00:44:44
	One nation under God.	00:44:47
	Indivisible with liberty and justice for all.	00:44:49
	Madam Clerk, please take roll.	00:44:57
	Councilmember Gama.	00:44:59
	Here. Councilmember Hernandez here. Councilmember Perez here.	00:45:03
	Mayor Pro Tem Lopez.	00:45:07
	Here and Mayor McQueen Lejeune here.	00:45:09
	And now we'll hear the inspiration from Councilmember Perez.	00:45:12
	Thank you, I did remember.	00:45:15
	Barely.	00:45:19
	So in honor of Mental Health Month, which is May.	00:45:22
	This month.	00:45:26
	I'm going to talk about an important program that's in our community called the Ventura County Crisis Intervention Team.	00:45:26
	I'm going to get a little background.	00:45:33
	So the CIT or dub CIT.	00:45:35
	Program was established in 2001 as a proactive response to a concerning trend. Over the previous decade, there had been over 17	00:45:38
	officer involved shootings involving individuals with mental illness, including eight in a single year.	00:45:45
	Recognizing the need for a more compassionate and effective approach.	00:45:52
	The Ventura County Sheriff's Department in collaboration with city police agencies.	00:45:56
	Ventura County Behavioral Health.	00:46:00
	And the local chapter of the National Alliance of Mental Illness, or NAMI, initiated the CIT program.	00:46:02
	The program has conducted 56 academies, trained nearly 2000 first responders, communication operators and key personnel.	00:46:08
	This extensive training equips officers with strategies to deescalate situations and connect individuals to appropriate services.	00:46:16
	We also have a 24/7 mobile crisis response.	00:46:24
	Which is a partnership between.	00:46:27
	Inter behavioral health in our local law enforcement. So anytime there's a mental health call.	00:46:31
	There is someone on call they can call to bring in if that person is not already.	00:46:35
	Engaged and come in and help de escalate and help mental health.	00:46:40
	It's one of those programs that we need a lot more assistance and resources with.	00:46:45
	And the reason why I bring it up is because I know that the county just received a $93 million grant for mental health.	00:46:50
	I'm really hoping that they'll take an opportunity to look at some of the important programs that we have in this community, the	00:46:57
	ones that make life changing.	00:47:01
	Things in our community, especially with our Police Department.	00:47:06
	And improve the personnel, increase resources.	00:47:09
	Because as it stands right now.	00:47:13
	The city of Winimi shares one.	00:47:15
	Crisis personnel with the city of Oxnard.	00:47:19
	So that tells you there's about 300,000 people.	00:47:22
	Shared between one person from behavioral health.	00:47:26
	So.	00:47:30
	Inspiration is mental health programs in Ventura County and the need for more resources, more personnel.	00:47:32
	And more awareness brought and attention brought to what's going on in our communities and that's it. Thank you.	00:47:38
	Thank you, Councilmember Perez. That is a very important topic, so thank you for sharing that.	00:47:45
	We'll move on to our city attorney. Please provide the closed session report.	00:47:50
	Thank you, Madam Mayor.	00:47:55
	At the time of the April 17 City Council meeting, I believe it was April 17.	00:47:57
	On a vote of four to zero with Councilmember Gama having been recused.	00:48:03
	Recusing himself.	00:48:08
	The City Council directed.	00:48:09
	Umm, that.	00:48:13
	We try to enter into an agreement with the owner of the Surfside Motel.	00:48:14
	To get our legally binding compliance agreement. And if they wouldn't agree to that.	00:48:21
	Then we were directed to commence litigation.	00:48:26
	I'm pleased to report that we.	00:48:29
	Did enter into as of this morning.	00:48:33
	Actually you signed it now, so it's as of now.	00:48:35
	A legally binding compliance agreement.	00:48:40
	With Mr. Penny, the owner of the Surfside Hotel Motel.	00:48:42
	And that pursuant to the terms of this agreement.	00:48:46
	The construction will be completed within a year.	00:48:50
	There are other items in there that I don't really want to discuss right now.	00:48:53
	Um, and that if any of the terms of the agreement are breached.	00:49:00
	Mr. Peeny has agreed to the appointment of a receiver.	00:49:05
	So which is what we have been trying to do for years in litigation.	00:49:09
	So.	00:49:14
	That's it.	00:49:16
	That's the report.	00:49:17
	Thank you, Madam City Attorney.	00:49:19
	We'll move on to public comments.	00:49:21
	Madam Clerk, do we have any public comments for items that are not pertaining to the agenda?	00:49:23
	Yes, and we'll start with Victor Gallardo.	00:49:27
	Thank you. Good evening, Madam Mayor and distinguished members of the Council.	00:49:39
	I'm here to.	00:49:44
	I'm here representing the Alexis Lemonade stand.	00:49:46
	It is a children's fundraiser.	00:49:49
	A concerning cancer.	00:49:52
	It's been in existence for about 20 years.	00:49:54
	They've raised over well. Actually, we on the West Coast have raised over $1,000,000 for children's research.	00:49:58
	On July the 3rd.	00:50:06
	The writer that is leaving.	00:50:09
	The Canadian border is going to be going through Waeneme.	00:50:12
	I would like the city of Wanimi to get some good PR out of this.	00:50:16
	He's going to be hitting the entire West Coast.	00:50:20
	And he's going to stop here overnight before he goes to Long Beach.	00:50:24
	It will not cost the city any money.	00:50:28
	There'll be donations from.	00:50:32
	Different entities.	00:50:34
	In the county, in Oxnard and possibly Winnie, me, some small businesses.	00:50:36
	But I've talked to.	00:50:41
	Ben Garcia, the local musician.	00:50:44
	He's gonna donate an hour's music.	00:50:47
	I would like to have this event.	00:50:50
	Somewhere very visible in Winnemi.	00:50:52
	Either in front, like if this was the Christmas season.	00:50:55
	Maybe the the Alaskan?	00:50:58
	Playing memorial over on the beach.	00:51:01
	There's a lot of different places that the city might suggest other than my suggestion.	00:51:04
	And.	00:51:11
	I just hope that the city can get some good PR out of this.	00:51:12
	I'm not asking any other entities here locally.	00:51:17
	Like I said, I want the city wanting me to.	00:51:20
	Get some good PR out of this and and hopefully.	00:51:24
	It'll make the news or some some newspaper.	00:51:27
	Television station will get get a hold of this. I'm doing some groundwork. I just got this position a week ago in San Francisco.	00:51:31
	So, umm.	00:51:40
	I'm hoping that you will consider it.	00:51:42
	And if it comes through, I'm available to work with whoever.	00:51:45
	Is going to work from the city.	00:51:50
	Thank you. Great. Thank you. There's some questions. Councilmember Perez, do we have an approximate time as to yes.	00:51:52
	The The writer is leaving the Canadian border.	00:52:00
	On the 3rd of June.	00:52:03
	He should be coming through here on the 3rd of July because.	00:52:06
	There is going to be a big festivity on the 4th of July and the 5th of July in Long Beach.	00:52:10
	Do we? I mean, do we know?	00:52:17
	His whereabouts as to the July 3rd, when we can expect him or when you want to have that all depends on traffic.	00:52:19
	It is a Thursday, the Thursday before 4th of July.	00:52:26
	Couple of things like that.	00:52:30
	Yes. Any other questions?	00:52:32
	Any other questions?	00:52:35
	So you will keep us informed though? Yes, absolutely. I just.	00:52:36
	I would just like to get some information.	00:52:41
	If it's OK with the city.	00:52:43
	Thank you, City Manager.	00:52:46
	I was just going to note I believe we have.	00:52:47
	Your contact information if you Yes, yes. So we'll have somebody follow up with you. Thank you so much.	00:52:50
	Do we need to put a future agenda item on that?	00:52:56
	Potentially, I think at this point if.	00:53:00
	We don't have all the details, but if it is something that can be done at no cost with minimal effort, it might be something that	00:53:04
	staff can just do on its own, but.	00:53:08
	If what what we can do is all, we'll follow up on that and if we find that there is going to be any resources required, we can let	00:53:12
	the council know so it could be scheduled for a future item. Thank you. Thank you.	00:53:18
	And thank you so much, Mr. Thank you very much.	00:53:25
	Becky Bruning.	00:53:27
	Good evening, Mayor, Mayor Pro Tem, council staff.	00:53:36
	I'm here representing Roku outdoors tonight.	00:53:42
	We are having our annual fundraiser on June the 1st.	00:53:45
	From 4:00 to 7:00 we have about 10 tickets left.	00:53:50
	So if you're interested then let me know tonight because I do have tickets on me.	00:53:54
	And we're having our family fish day the 4th Sunday.	00:53:59
	Out at the pier from 8:00 to 11:00.	00:54:03
	Thank you.	00:54:07
	Luis.	00:54:09
	Thank you.	00:54:16
	Greeting mayor to have council members and staff in the community.	00:54:17
	I'm here just to give a brief report and summary on the Ventura County Area Agency on Aging. I've been representing wanting me for	00:54:22
	the last two years.	00:54:25
	And this year is the fourth year. Every four years, they are required to submit a strategic plan to the county and then to the	00:54:29
	state for approval.	00:54:32
	And just so you guys know some of the goals that they've identified this year in the first quarter?	00:54:36
	They were coming from January to April.	00:54:41
	One is to help older adults maintain their independence, inability to live at home.	00:54:43
	Two, to protect older adults living in long term care facilities.	00:54:48
	Provide home delivered meals.	00:54:51
	Provide health insurance information and system navigation.	00:54:53
	Through unbiased counseling.	00:54:56
	Provide evidence based classes that help prevent falls for seniors.	00:54:58
	Provide congregate meals.	00:55:02
	Prevent abuse and protect the rights of older adults, including case management for those that have been abused.	00:55:04
	Provide transportation.	00:55:10
	And to provide caregivers with information on how to assist.	00:55:11
	About the available resources for these the aging population.	00:55:15
	And communicate to the public who we are, their services we provide in the resources sources that are available.	00:55:18
	So that's why I'm here.	00:55:24
	I did provide Georgiana with some documentation to provide to the council of the different services that the agency does provide	00:55:25
	to the city. Hopefully the list can be posted on the website.	00:55:30
	We did have a meeting last week and.	00:55:37
	As the governor, you know, updated his budget for California and things are coming downstream, one thing we were notified at the	00:55:39
	hearing or at the meeting was that two services in Winemi are going to be cut or for the program in Ventura County.	00:55:45
	It's the 30 day SNAP food box program.	00:55:52
	And the senior nutrition farm, which provides a lot of food.	00:55:55
	For the insecure in our in our county and in our city.	00:55:58
	I provided.	00:56:02
	Dollar amounts that go to each city to you guys that's based on population, but I feel information like this you guys need to be	00:56:03
	aware of because.	00:56:06
	As we look at budget cuts coming down from the federal government to the state, you know they're going to push the buck down to	00:56:10
	the cities as well. That's what we were told in the last meeting. So I think it's prudent information for you guys to look at as	00:56:15
	you guys are considering, you know, budget cuts and the city's budget as well on what services.	00:56:20
	You guys may need to.	00:56:26
	Up some resources on or take away from.	00:56:27
	So that our senior population does not go.	00:56:30
	Hungry or without?	00:56:32
	That's it.	00:56:34
	Thank you so much.	00:56:35
	And you're so important. It is important for us to know that. So appreciate that. Thank you so much.	00:56:36
	Hello, Good evening. I live in Port Wayne, Amy, for many years. Greg Ross.	00:56:49
	Adjacent to the port.	00:56:55
	As I've said before in this meeting.	00:56:59
	The.	00:57:02
	The port of Waeneme is the closest port.	00:57:04
	On the West Coast.	00:57:07
	In terms of high density residential to any other port?	00:57:10
	On the West Coast.	00:57:14
	So that being said.	00:57:16
	I have to give the port some credit.	00:57:20
	Their noise levels have been reduced in the last two weeks. I take careful notes.	00:57:22
	I jot down exact times. What kind of noise?	00:57:27
	Starting at 2:00 in the morning.	00:57:30
	And they've been better.	00:57:32
	So I'll give them a little credit.	00:57:35
	However.	00:57:37
	Sunday morning, 6:44 AM.	00:57:39
	20 to 30 minute blast from a ship's captain.	00:57:44
	At 6:44 AM.	00:57:48
	Is this a good neighbor?	00:57:50
	Not in this instance it's not.	00:57:52
	They are hiring good people.	00:57:54
	Zach, the new communications director, he's communicating with us, which is good.	00:57:57
	Miguel Rodriguez is is going to HOA Coalition meetings.	00:58:03
	However.	00:58:08
	You probably know this, but I'm going to stay in anyway.	00:58:10
	There's 30 plus HOA's in the.	00:58:13
	In the city of Port Hueneme.	00:58:17
	And 45 to 5500 people live adjacent to the port.	00:58:19
	The port needs to up their game a little bit.	00:58:24
	This noise level.	00:58:27
	And now they're they're talking about some carbon monitoring.	00:58:29
	Sensors, which is great.	00:58:34
	But umm.	00:58:36
	Are they going to put them away to the north in Oxnard?	00:58:37
	Because it is the Oxnard Harbor Commission, we don't have representation there.	00:58:40
	There's 5 members.	00:58:44
	They're all from other places, not from Port Wayne, ME.	00:58:46
	I would like to see us have representation on that.	00:58:50
	On that, district Commissioners.	00:58:53
	Board, but we don't have it.	00:58:55
	So this is just one more instance I'll give you.	00:58:58
	This is what we received on the 12th of May.	00:59:01
	Construction notice from the.	00:59:05
	Construction begins May.	00:59:09
	12th Monday.	00:59:11
	We get it the same day.	00:59:13
	That's not good communication.	00:59:15
	Come on.	00:59:18
	They need to be better neighbors and.	00:59:19
	You talk to those district commissioners and it's like a little bit like talking to a potted plant.	00:59:23
	And I'm going to repeat myself here.	00:59:29
	But Port Hueneme is a redheaded stepchild to the port.	00:59:31
	And I I'm I'm.	00:59:34
	If you look at their, their numbers, their financial numbers that they just talked about in their meeting at 3:00.	00:59:36
	They've more than doubled.	00:59:43
	Their revenue.	00:59:44
	In the last.	00:59:46
	Since 2013.	00:59:47
	Thank you for listening.	00:59:49
	Thank you.	00:59:51
	And then we just have one written public comment.	00:59:52
	Hello City Council, this is to be read at the next City Council meeting.	00:59:56
	I would like to remain anonymous.	01:00:00
	Existing California protections for tenants should be more accessible to tenants seeking help.	01:00:02
	Many Port Winnie, ME tenants have experienced harassment, unjust threats of eviction and many other unfair practices.	01:00:07
	As we all know, not all complaints are actionable complaints.	01:00:14
	There must be accountability.	01:00:18
	Currently this sadly is my reality and overbearing threatening landlords behavior is extreme when unchecked.	01:00:20
	Tenants need immediate assistance in certain circumstances, especially when the tenant have disabilities or vulnerable	01:00:26
	individuals.	01:00:30
	In closing, much attention should be granted in seeking guidance to implement fair practices.	01:00:34
	Between tenant and landlord in Port Hueneme.	01:00:39
	Let's join our neighbor communities and implement existing fair housing practices that ensure laws are being followed.	01:00:42
	Relevant legal citations.	01:00:48
	California Fair Employment and Housing Act, California Government Code sections 12900 through 12996.	01:00:50
	Specifically, section 1295, five and section 12, nine to seven, subsection C1.	01:00:57
	And Silva Acts, California Civil Code section 51, Landlord Harassment Protections, California Civil Code section 789.3.	01:01:04
	Retaliation protections. California Civil Code.	01:01:13
	Section 1942.5. Federal Fair Housing Act 42 United States Code Sections 3601 through 3619, specifically section 3604 and section	01:01:16
	3613.	01:01:23
	Finally, I would like to thank you for your attention at this moment, Anonymous.	01:01:29
	And that concludes public comment.	01:01:33
	OK, OK.	01:01:35
	Let me just ask. There's just one. I thought there were two.	01:01:36
	There are two other written comments for a item on the agenda.	01:01:41
	Thank you. That was the question.	01:01:46
	Thank you.	01:01:48
	Was that the final item?	01:01:51
	OK, great. Thank you.	01:01:52
	All right. We're going to move on to the agenda approval. May I have a motion and a second to approve the agenda?	01:01:54
	Move to approve.	01:02:00
	Great. Madam Clerk, please take.	01:02:02
	Vote please.	01:02:04
	All in favor, aye. All opposed.	01:02:05
	Hearing none, motion passes unanimously.	01:02:08
	Great. Thank you. We'll move on to conflict of interest. Do any members of Council have any conflicts of interest to disclose?	01:02:10
	For any item on the agenda.	01:02:17
	If not, we'll move on to presentations. First, we're going to have.	01:02:21
	We like to welcome Jessica Camarillo to the podium while we read the proclamation, which is going to be read by.	01:02:27
	Councilmember Perez.	01:02:35
	Thank you.	01:02:38
	Arthritis Awareness Month, May 2025.	01:02:39
	WHEREAS in 1972, at the urging of the Arthritis Foundation, Congress and President Richard M Nixon designated May as National	01:02:42
	Arthritis Month.	01:02:47
	A special time to emphasize research, service and education around arthritis.	01:02:52
	And to raise funds to support the cause.	01:02:56
	Every May since then, National Arthritis Month has been marked by efforts to alleviate.	01:02:59
	Elevate the public's awareness of arthritis.	01:03:04
	And whereas arthritis is a complex family of muscular skeletal disorders with many causes.	01:03:06
	Not yet fully understood, and to date there are no known cures.	01:03:13
	Whereas it consists of more than 100 different diseases or conditions that destroy joint joints.	01:03:17
	Bones, muscle, cartilage, and other connective tissue hampering or haltering physical movement.	01:03:23
	And whereas arthritis may cause severe pain and mobility, joint destruction, total disability, blindness, organ damage, organ	01:03:29
	failure and even death.	01:03:34
	And WHEREAS 60 million Americans have been diagnosed by a doctor with arthritis in the nation's leading cause of disability.	01:03:39
	WHEREAS, as the nation's largest private fundraiser of research, public health programs, and advocacy on behalf behalf of all	01:03:48
	Americans with this painful disease.	01:03:52
	The Arthritis Foundation aims to reduce the number of people suffering from arthritis related physical activity limitations.	01:03:57
	By 20%.	01:04:03
	By 2030.	01:04:05
	And whereas the month of May brings focused efforts.	01:04:06
	OR the Arthritis Foundation to increase awareness of this disease and offer great information about the proven treatments,	01:04:10
	programs and services available to help all Americans with arthritis take control of these diseases.	01:04:17
	Now therefore be it proclaimed that the City Council of the city of Port Hueneme.	01:04:24
	DOES hereby recognize May 2025 as Arthritis Awareness Month.	01:04:28
	Thank you.	01:04:34
	Good evening, Madam Mayor and council members.	01:04:35
	My name is Jessica Camarillo. I'm a junior Oxnard High School of varsity volleyball player and someone who has lived with juvenile	01:04:37
	arthritis since I was 4.	01:04:41
	This year, I'm honored to serve on the planning committee for the Arthritis Foundation's Walk to Cure Arthritis, which will take	01:04:46
	place at the Collection on May 31st.	01:04:50
	Arthritis effects more than 60.	01:04:55
	Million Americans, including children like me.	01:04:57
	Even though I have faced challenges, I have not let arthritis to find me, but rather have used it for motivation to.	01:05:00
	Strive for excellence in the classroom, on the court.	01:05:06
	And then bring in awareness.	01:05:09
	Thank you for recognizing me as Arthritis Month Awareness Month. Your support brings attention to a disease that affects so many	01:05:11
	but is often overlooked. I also invite you to join us.	01:05:16
	At the walk on May 31st, your presence would mean a lot. Thank you again. OK, hold on. We have a video. So we're gonna watch the	01:05:21
	video and then we're gonna ask the council if they have anything to share with you, and then we'll have you come back and take a	01:05:26
	picture.	01:05:30
	Do you believe I have arthritis?	01:05:38
	I thought it was an old person's disease. Then it happened to me.	01:05:40
	I was diagnosed with arthritis when I was four years old. I was 9. I was 230 years old. I was 4. I had just turned 50. I was 16	01:05:44
	months old. Arthritis does not discriminate. Doesn't matter how old you are, who you are, or what you do. I'm a textile designer.	01:05:51
	I'm a singer. I'm a cheerleader. I'm a student to be mommy. I was a former Major League Baseball player. I'm just a kid. I am one,	01:05:59
	I am one. I am 1 of 300,000 kids with arthritis. I am one. I am one. I am one of over.	01:06:06
	50 million Americans affected by the chronic pain of arthritis. There are more of us out there than you would think.	01:06:14
	We are your friends, your Co workers, grandparent.	01:06:20
	We are your kids.	01:06:23
	We are the face of arthritis. I have Scleroderma of Sjogren's syndrome, polyarticular juvenile idiopathic arthritis, osteoporosis,	01:06:25
	lupus.	01:06:29
	Juvenile rheumatoid arthritis. It affects people in different ways, but we all have one thing in common, pain.	01:06:34
	The worst part of arthritis is the pain.	01:06:41
	And the limitations that it brings to you.	01:06:43
	At the age of 25, I had to stop working. By the age of 12, I had both my hips replaced. I had to go through eight months of	01:06:45
	chemotherapy. I couldn't even pick up my own grandchildren. A lot of kids teased me when I was younger in school. It caused me to	01:06:51
	worry about how I was going to provide for my family. Some days I can't run or I can't walk. Sometimes it doesn't allow me to be	01:06:57
	the mom I want to be. You have to be strong.	01:07:03
	You have to be brave, you have to believe in yourself.	01:07:09
	I believe that someday I'll be pain free. I believe in the possibility of a cure. I believe that even with arthritis, I can still	01:07:12
	do amazing things with my life. Awareness is key. Spread the word. Tell the world we are the face of our greatest. We believe if	01:07:18
	we stand together, fight together, we will find a cure. With your commitment, anything is possible. It's time to believe. Believe	01:07:25
	in a cure. I believe, I believe, I believe.	01:07:31
	I believe.	01:07:37
	Do you?	01:07:38
	Great. Thank you.	01:07:43
	Any council members have any comments?	01:07:45
	Councilmember Hernandez.	01:07:47
	Thank you so much for being here tonight. You know, I.	01:07:49
	No, you don't know this, but when I was very young I discovered I'd have scoliosis and since then developed osteoporosis. So it is	01:07:53
	a very real.	01:07:57
	Thing happening to children and and living with it is not easy. So thank you for bringing the awareness to us tonight.	01:08:02
	Really appreciate your presence here.	01:08:09
	Thank you. Thank you anyone else.	01:08:11
	You know, even though we know children suffer from these things, you don't really think about it every day as children dealing	01:08:17
	with this on a daily basis.	01:08:21
	And we always think of adults.	01:08:25
	Get this issue because you know as we age.	01:08:28
	But I just thank you for your courage. And when did you find out that you had?	01:08:31
	What condition do you have? Actually? I have general rheumatoid arthritis and I found out when I was 4.	01:08:36
	And it's you're still able to play volleyball and everything, and I assume you're on it.	01:08:42
	Medication and you have to do any physical therapy. What type of things do you have to do to keep it under control?	01:08:47
	Yeah, I used to have to do a lot more medication, but right now I just have to go to LA every five weeks and get an infusion.	01:08:52
	Oh, that doesn't sound fun, but I'm glad to hear that it is less.	01:08:59
	Hard on you than what it was.	01:09:04
	Well, thank you for coming and sharing your story.	01:09:05
	Yes, and I'll just say just thank you for coming out today really shows your your bravery and strength and so.	01:09:09
	I'm sure your family is just looking forward to all the wonderful things you're going to do in the future. And so just so glad	01:09:16
	that you came to spend some time with us today. So, Madam Mayor, may I make a comment? Thank you.	01:09:22
	I think you said you were a junior in high school.	01:09:28
	Have you thought about UCLA?	01:09:31
	We're all Bruins or I'm a Bruin, so think about UCLA. They've got a great volleyball team.	01:09:34
	Go for it.	01:09:39
	Over to you.	01:09:40
	On behalf of the entire City Council, we're going to present to you this.	01:09:41
	Proclamation.	01:09:47
	And we want to thank you for coming here and thank you for having the courage to step up and talk about something that's very	01:09:48
	personal to you.	01:09:52
	With that.	01:09:57
	We want to.	01:09:58
	Encourage you to reach.	01:10:00
	For the stars.	01:10:01
	Work hard, graduate, and keep your dad happy.	01:10:03
	Yeah, we are happy with him and.	01:10:05
	You're a part of our family, OK, so.	01:10:08
	Can we come over here and take a picture?	01:10:10
	And then maybe mom and Dad should come in.	01:10:36
	Yeah, Mom and Dad should come.	01:10:38
	Don't block the seal.	01:10:40
	Chief, you need to line it up.	01:10:45
	Thank you. Thank you so much.	01:11:07
	We're going to move on to our next presentation. Councilmember Hernandez will read the Asian American and Pacific Islander	01:11:18
	Heritage Month.	01:11:21
	Thank you, Mayor. Tonight's proclamation is for all our Asian American and Pacific Islander here.	01:11:25
	Islanders who live here in Port Hueneme.	01:11:30
	We are in your honor, recognizing.	01:11:33
	May has Asian Asian American, Pacific Islander Heritage Month.	01:11:36
	Whereas.	01:11:41
	Asian American and Pacific Islander Heritage Month is observed throughout the United States in May to celebrate and honor the	01:11:42
	significant contribution.	01:11:46
	Vibrant cultures and.	01:11:50
	Diverse histories of Asian Americans and Pacific Islanders and whereas the month of may commemorates the first Japanese immigrants	01:11:52
	arrival to the United states on May 7th, 1843 and the completion of the transcontinental railroad on May 10th, 1869, significantly	01:12:01
	contributed to by Chinese immigrants and whereas the city of Port Hueneme takes pride in its vibrant ape.	01:12:09
	Pi Community whose members have profoundly enriched our city through their entrepreneurial spirit, dedication to education,	01:12:18
	military service, public service, arts, culture and community leadership. And WHEREAS, despite the invaluable contributions of	01:12:26
	AAPI individuals, we recognize the historical and ongoing challenges faced by these communities, including discrimination.	01:12:35
	Exclusion and hate crimes.	01:12:44
	We reaffirm our city's commitment to inclusion, respect and equity for all our residents. And whereas during Asian American and	01:12:46
	Pacific Islander Heritage Month, we honor the legacy and perseverance of AAPI individuals who have shaped our community, state and	01:12:54
	nation. And we commit ourselves to fostering understanding, appreciation and unity within our diverse community, our diverse city.	01:13:02
	Now therefore be it proclaimed that the City Council of the city of Port Hueneme.	01:13:11
	Hereby recognizes and proclaims the month of May 2025 has Asian American and Pacific Islander Heritage Month. We encourage all	01:13:15
	residents to celebrate and deepen their understanding of the rich heritage and contributions of Asian American and Pacific	01:13:21
	Islander communities. Thank you.	01:13:27
	Population and annual project update.	01:13:40
	Do we want to hold that?	01:13:44
	I'm wondering if the chief can see if Fred's still outside.	01:13:46
	OK, Fred's pulling double duty so.	01:13:50
	Our mayor Pro Tem will read it OK, the City of Port Hueneme proclaims National Public Works Week.	01:13:55
	May 18th.	01:14:01
	Through the 24th, 2025.	01:14:02
	Whereas public works professional focus on infrastructure.	01:14:04
	Facilities and service that are vital.	01:14:08
	Importance to sustainable and resilient communities and to public health.	01:14:10
	High quality of life and well-being of the people of the city of Port Hueneme.	01:14:14
	And whereas.	01:14:19
	These infrastructures, facilities and the services that could be not be provided.	01:14:20
	Without the dedication efforts of the public works professionals.	01:14:25
	Who are engineers? Managers.	01:14:29
	And employees of all levels of government.	01:14:31
	And the private sector who are responsible for rebuilding, improving and protecting our nation's.	01:14:33
	Transportation.	01:14:39
	Water supply. Water treatment.	01:14:40
	And the solid waste system.	01:14:43
	Public buildings and other structures and facilities essential for our citizens and whereas.	01:14:45
	It is the public interest for the citizens.	01:14:50
	Civic leaders.	01:14:53
	And the children of in the city of Port Hueneme to gain knowledge.	01:14:55
	Of and maintain an ongoing interest understanding of the importance of public works.	01:14:58
	And the public works programs in their respective communities.	01:15:03
	And WHEREAS, the year 2025 marks the 65th annual National Public Work Week.	01:15:07
	Sponsored by the American Public Works Association.	01:15:13
	Canadian Public Works Association.	01:15:17
	Now therefore be it proclaimed.	01:15:19
	That the City Council of the City of Poor Enemy does hereby designate the week.	01:15:21
	May 18th.	01:15:27
	Through the 24th 2025 as National Public Works Week.	01:15:28
	We urge all citizens to join with our representatives of the public.	01:15:32
	American Public Works Association and the government agencies.	01:15:36
	In the activities, events and ceremonies.	01:15:40
	Designed to pay tribute to our public works professionals, engineers, managers and employees and to recognize the substantial	01:15:43
	contributions they make.	01:15:46
	To protecting our nation's health safety.	01:15:50
	In advancing quality of life for all.	01:15:53
	Proclaim this 19th day of May, 2025.	01:15:55
	Thank you. Over to you, Mr.	01:15:59
	On behalf of the entire Public Works Department, I'd like to thank you all for the proclamation and the recognition.	01:16:01
	We have.	01:16:10
	Great group of people that.	01:16:11
	Are truly dedicated to.	01:16:13
	All of the things that were mentioned in the proclamation and making sure that our community has.	01:16:16
	Everything that it needs as far as public services to make their everyday lives better.	01:16:20
	Great. And it looks like we have an update. Who's going to do that?	01:16:28
	And I have that so.	01:16:33
	We'll do that. Combined with that, we have our annual public works update.	01:16:35
	The last one was a little over a year ago, so it's not quite on the year, it's a little past but.	01:16:41
	Anyway to highlight some of the things that have happened in this past year?	01:16:46
	The.	01:16:51
	Winimi beach swing set.	01:16:53
	That was.	01:16:56
	Constructed and completed.	01:16:58
	Along with that, ancillary to that project, we also replaced.	01:17:01
	Broken.	01:17:05
	Cracked sidewalks that were all along The Walking path out there.	01:17:09
	In an effort to try and keep costs down on that project, we had our own streets team go and do all the removal of all the broken	01:17:15
	panels.	01:17:18
	And then we had.	01:17:22
	Contractor come in and do all the replacement work of the concrete.	01:17:25
	The Channel Islands Blvd. Resurfacing project that we had.	01:17:30
	Let's see there we have a note we had applied for $300,000 grant which we received to help pay for.	01:17:33
	Part of that probably played for almost all of that project.	01:17:38
	The two new firings in the ash container that was set out, that was something that had been requested.	01:17:44
	Two years ago, but incredibly enough, those things took forever to get here for 2.	01:17:51
	Fire rings. I don't know why but.	01:17:57
	We did get them out there as soon as they came in, so hopefully everybody's enjoying them. They came in in the middle of winter,	01:17:59
	but.	01:18:02
	As you've heard this project, we've given several updates on this along the way.	01:18:07
	Our group completed the force main replacement that runs from Pleasant Valley all the way down.	01:18:12
	Through Surfside Village.	01:18:18
	That was.	01:18:21
	Completed the.	01:18:22
	Library parking lot, obviously they had a lot going on from the damage they had done and they.	01:18:24
	Once they got completed.	01:18:29
	We went in and redid 88 improvements.	01:18:31
	Restriped and also as part of that, we had our landscape.	01:18:36
	People go in and.	01:18:40
	Take care of the landscaping and irrigation so everybody would be able to see the nice new mural.	01:18:42
	We continued our.	01:18:50
	Project of clearing of the Creek. This is the third year of five years that we have.	01:18:53
	As you see, there's those red lines from the one on the left is Joyce all the way down to.	01:18:57
	Miranda Park right there by the railroad tracks and then the picture to the right is.	01:19:04
	From behind the library parking lot.	01:19:10
	To where?	01:19:12
	The soccer fields are the new soccer fields are now.	01:19:14
	That one had.	01:19:17
	Come at a request to from some of the.	01:19:19
	Neighboring people that live right on the other side. I guess there had been.	01:19:22
	There's some overgrowth, so.	01:19:27
	They said there was a homeless problem there, so they were getting a lot of people that were just hanging out in there and then.	01:19:29
	Causing ruckus at night, so.	01:19:34
	Went and cleared all that out, which took away that hiding spot.	01:19:36
	We had some events, the latest of which was the Arbor Day over at.	01:19:41
	Boulder Park, where we.	01:19:46
	Planted some new trees. We have like six others that are going to be planted that we haven't set yet, but they'll be planted in	01:19:47
	Miranda.	01:19:50
	As part of that, we had.	01:19:54
	Council member Gama was there and some members of the port were there, so it was it was a good event.	01:19:57
	Beautiful oak tree I might add.	01:20:03
	The Bubbling Springs Park project, that's been a long, ongoing project and every one of our divisions has been involved in that.	01:20:09
	From.	01:20:17
	The original planning of it to plan checking to.	01:20:19
	Installation of certain items.	01:20:23
	We've been involved the entire project and we're still involved right now as we're finishing that.	01:20:26
	Project up with some of the things that were.	01:20:31
	Finalizing SO.	01:20:34
	Ancillary of that too was the.	01:20:35
	The farmers Bridge that was already done. The facilities group.	01:20:38
	Repainted and everything and our our.	01:20:42
	Our crews went out and redid all the decomposed granite and cleaned up all the concrete and so it made it look nice.	01:20:45
	Because that was not included as part of the park renovation.	01:20:53
	Our streets division. You can see stats there of what we have in our street on our.	01:20:58
	Infrastructure inventory on the left.	01:21:04
	They did.	01:21:07
	Cracked feeling which prolongs St. life.	01:21:08
	On Patterson, Wayne, ME, Channel Islands and Pleasant Valley.	01:21:11
	Dozens of small potholes.	01:21:15
	Did patching of the streets for the water department.	01:21:18
	For their projects like valve replacements and water line repairs.	01:21:22
	Major sidewalk repairs, upgrades.	01:21:27
	And fixed.	01:21:30
	Over two dozen.	01:21:32
	Tripping hazards.	01:21:34
	The water division, you can see their inventory of things there. They had 15 service line leaks they completed.	01:21:36
	23 valves replaced and might not sound like a lot but.	01:21:44
	Those 23 valves represented areas where.	01:21:48
	The valves are no longer functioning properly, so if we had an issue.	01:21:52
	We wouldn't have been able to isolate.	01:21:55
	Into a much smaller area which would have made a water shut down.	01:21:58
	Affect hundreds of more people.	01:22:03
	Without the replacement of those valves.	01:22:05
	The water group also runs the water agency and they had the.	01:22:09
	Filter membrane replacement design completed.	01:22:15
	They finished their SCADA control room updates, they got the low flow pump project completed which saves a lot of money.	01:22:19
	When we are in a low flow condition where we don't have to take Cayegas water, which is.	01:22:28
	More than double the cost.	01:22:33
	And they got the design started on the water tank, which.	01:22:36
	The membrane and the water tank will be something that will be completed this coming year.	01:22:42
	They've started on the Winimi Rd. water line project, which is.	01:22:48
	The first real project of what?	01:22:53
	We hope will address the water pressure issues throughout the city.	01:22:57
	This is the first one that is.	01:23:01
	Going to be completed. We have other small things that are going on too as well at the same time, but this is something that will.	01:23:04
	Is like the first leg of.	01:23:11
	What we hope will.	01:23:13
	Ultimately end up fixing a lot of the water pressure issues that.	01:23:15
	We've heard about.	01:23:21
	Our solid waste group.	01:23:23
	You can see there.	01:23:26
	16,000 tons of waste this last year, over 2500 tons of recycled material and almost 3000 tons of green waste now that we've got	01:23:27
	the green waste containers out.	01:23:32
	So very busy. We also they also take care of through a contract with the Navy base, we provide services to the Navy as well, so.	01:23:38
	Those numbers include.	01:23:47
	That tonnage so.	01:23:49
	But it's still something else that they're involved with, so.	01:23:51
	Our fleet, you can see there's over 160 work orders of either preventative or corrective maintenance done.	01:23:55
	On our equipment and.	01:24:02
	Including.	01:24:05
	Commercial vehicles or passenger vehicles, over 200 pieces of equipment like a riding lawn mowers or tractors, blowers, chainsaws,	01:24:06
	all that stuff that.	01:24:10
	The crews use in order to make sure that everything's.	01:24:15
	Kept nice.	01:24:19
	Umm, landscape. On the bottom there you can see 4000 trees.	01:24:22
	Amount of acres we have the maintenance of the Bubbling Springs corridor.	01:24:27
	They've done some other projects.	01:24:32
	Hopefully, as I mentioned earlier, the bridge.	01:24:34
	The irrigation pump that needed to be replaced out at the beach.	01:24:36
	They take care of all the sand mitigation and the sand raking to make sure our beach is.	01:24:40
	Clean and stays clean.	01:24:46
	Our engineering group.	01:24:49
	Who's been just completely.	01:24:51
	Swamped this last year?	01:24:53
	They had the the sewer force main project, but.	01:24:56
	Beyond that, they also had.	01:24:59
	All those other projects that I mentioned before this resurfacing swing set, sidewalks, parking lot.	01:25:02
	Almost 100 permits. Encroachment permits, Film permits, Grading permits.	01:25:09
	And again, at the same time we had both the force main and the park project going on, which required.	01:25:15
	A lot of attention.	01:25:21
	The other thing that our engineering group does?	01:25:25
	Is pursue grants?	01:25:29
	We've secured those. On the left are the ones that we've received. You can see that it's over $1,000,000.	01:25:31
	We have.	01:25:39
	Some of those projects will be coming back to Council for your approval.	01:25:40
	As those projects actually come on board.	01:25:45
	And we?	01:25:48
	Are always looking for new grants.	01:25:49
	We have one that.	01:25:52
	We recently applied for, we had the package turned in on Friday, that's for four and a half, $1,000,000, so.	01:25:54
	Hopefully keep our fingers crossed that that comes through.	01:26:00
	And I'd like to thank.	01:26:04
	The city manager.	01:26:06
	As he reached out to the port and worked with them to get a letter of support for that project.	01:26:08
	And also Anna Hanley from.	01:26:13
	Recreation. She used her contacts with the port we named Little League and the library, and we got letters of support from them as	01:26:15
	well so.	01:26:19
	It takes takes a whole team to get it all done.	01:26:24
	Our wastewater, who also.	01:26:30
	Takes care of our storm drain system. You can see some pictures up there and that the numbers of.	01:26:33
	The piping and what we have in the system, we just got our.	01:26:38
	New camera truck not too long ago which came.	01:26:43
	To you.	01:26:46
	For approval.	01:26:47
	So that started our.	01:26:49
	Inspection and.	01:26:53
	Cleaning of the system again.	01:26:55
	That will help us identify future projects.	01:26:58
	Through that analysis. So they're busy with that.	01:27:01
	They also finally got that station right there. The pumps and motors were replaced. That was something that was damaged and	01:27:05
	flooded during the December storm of 23.	01:27:10
	So everything got flooded that the water in there was higher than what they're standing so.	01:27:16
	They got that all done. We got it temporarily fixed and did things, but we had to order new.	01:27:23
	Pumps and motors and stuff.	01:27:28
	To get it fully going, we used.	01:27:30
	Different methods to keep it going in the interim.	01:27:33
	They got that completed besides the force main project that.	01:27:36
	They were in charge of as well.	01:27:41
	And then finally.	01:27:43
	We have a list of things.	01:27:44
	Projects that will be coming in the near future.	01:27:46
	And all of them will be coming to you for.	01:27:50
	Approval and award, so we've got a lot of stuff planned.	01:27:53
	It's going to be very busy.	01:27:58
	If you have any questions, I.	01:28:01
	Any questions?	01:28:03
	I do.	01:28:05
	Thank you so much for the presentation and great job, Public Works Department.	01:28:06
	I have questions about the green waste program.	01:28:11
	Remember when it first came online, it was a state mandate and everyone had to get into compliance. And at that time, whether we	01:28:13
	started it, we didn't really have a facility that I was aware of where we would send the green waste.	01:28:18
	I'm assuming we do now have.	01:28:24
	A place, yes, right now it's just commingled the.	01:28:26
	Individual.	01:28:31
	Food Organics is they'll accept it at both Del Norte. Well, at Del Norte.	01:28:33
	Or we can directly take it out to the landfill, but we're not going to do that. That's too.	01:28:39
	It's too much of A burden for the amount that we're getting thus far.	01:28:44
	But we are expecting the straight.	01:28:49
	Food processing, where it'll just be food and there won't be anything mixed with no.	01:28:52
	Grass or clippings or anything else that will go to a separate place that they'll do something entirely different with.	01:28:57
	Are you seeing that the program is as effective as what it intended to be?	01:29:03
	There's some hesitancy with people. I mean, it took us quite a while to get some places to.	01:29:10
	Even want them because they're afraid that it was going to.	01:29:16
	Track vermin or smell or do something like that. But I mean, ultimately we don't have a choice. We, you know, the state's mandated	01:29:19
	this.	01:29:23
	But little by little, it's coming online. We've seen the tonnage rate start slowly going up.	01:29:27
	So, umm.	01:29:34
	Hopefully it becomes more mainstream. We've got we're working right now with.	01:29:36
	A consultant to help with.	01:29:41
	The compliance reporting and getting better.	01:29:44
	PR out about it.	01:29:48
	To generate more interest and.	01:29:49
	Get the general public.	01:29:53
	More willing to want to use the service.	01:29:56
	And that leads to my final question. I see still a lot of complaints about it and people.	01:29:58
	Grumbling about it, you know, nobody's happy with having to have a third trash can, but.	01:30:03
	For the record, for public dissemination, what is the purpose of having the Greenways program? What is the purpose behind the	01:30:08
	States?	01:30:11
	Mandate of it.	01:30:15
	Yes, it's to go ahead and get as much.	01:30:16
	Possible recycled where we're not filling the landfills.	01:30:20
	It's most of what they're doing with the organics is they want to turn it back into a mulch that's reusable. They put it through a	01:30:24
	process and then so it's.	01:30:28
	Not going to the landfill, it's actually being reused and recycled again out.	01:30:32
	In the general public.	01:30:36
	All right. Thank you.	01:30:38
	Councilmember.	01:30:40
	So the yellow cans are still sitting over at public Works, right? And those.	01:30:42
	Big cans are.	01:30:46
	Alleged to be for food.	01:30:48
	Those are straight food waste. That's what those will be.	01:30:51
	That's a color-coded system the state has so people know what belongs in which can.	01:30:54
	So would a chicken bone go into food can or the organic waste can?	01:30:59
	And the organic well.	01:31:06
	The Yellow 1 is going to be more commercial where it's restaurants that are disposing of their.	01:31:09
	Food leftovers so residents will then.	01:31:16
	Won't have a fourth can for residents. OK, we're gonna commingle then.	01:31:20
	Yes.	01:31:24
	Food waste with.	01:31:25
	Green waste.	01:31:26
	OK.	01:31:28
	I think over our years of Wyoming beach cleanup and all the big beach cleanups we've done, I'm pretty sure we've done more than	01:31:30
	16,000.	01:31:33
	500 tons.	01:31:37
	Well, that was just for this last year.	01:31:38
	That's just for one year.	01:31:40
	16,000 tons.	01:31:42
	Seems like you'd have more than that 16.	01:31:44
	Yeah, 16,000 tons.	01:31:47
	OK. Yeah, there's a lot.	01:31:50
	I was thinking.	01:31:53
	I dropped a zero off OK.	01:31:55
	For a small city is that.	01:31:58
	I mean, do we have like national average of?	01:32:01
	Trash per that we compare to or.	01:32:04
	We're kind of on average with cities our size that are.	01:32:08
	Not rural.	01:32:12
	Like.	01:32:13
	Kind of commingled here with everybody else.	01:32:15
	But there are.	01:32:18
	Agencies that do have better numbers with regards to recycling.	01:32:20
	And the organic waste stuff, especially where?	01:32:24
	There are a lot of people that are.	01:32:27
	More uh.	01:32:30
	Environmental.	01:32:31
	You can see up in the.	01:32:33
	Northern California, where you have.	01:32:35
	A lot of cities like Berkeley and them they're, they're like they're on a 0 waste mission, so.	01:32:38
	The port's heading towards 0 Waste.	01:32:45
	It's ambitious.	01:32:48
	And I guess if enough people did it, yeah, it's possible. But.	01:32:50
	Getting everyone.	01:32:56
	To want to do it. I mean, we're still fighting with people without wanting us to pick their can up for their greenways, so I don't	01:32:59
	want.	01:33:01
	Yes, sometimes I don't put my trash can out because there's so little trash in it then.	01:33:05
	Then the guys are great. They're like, hey, you're trash can.	01:33:10
	But.	01:33:13
	You know, same thing with the greenways that.	01:33:14
	It takes me.	01:33:17
	3-4 weeks to.	01:33:19
	More than halfway fill it.	01:33:20
	And then I'll take it out.	01:33:22
	But I really appreciate everything you guys are doing and.	01:33:24
	I thought we were told at some point or that we were going to have a food waste for residents.	01:33:28
	Not not for residential, it'll be for commercial.	01:33:34
	OK. Just want to double check on that. Thank you.	01:33:37
	Thank you, Councilmember Hernandez. Thank you, Mayor.	01:33:40
	Thank you, Mr. Camarillo, for all the good work that your department does. You guys are out there all the time, highly visible to	01:33:43
	me. I.	01:33:47
	I notice when you when you guys are out there and.	01:33:51
	The work that you do is just what you presented tonight is just amazing. Umm.	01:33:54
	I appreciate the parking lot at the library, it was nice when we could.	01:33:59
	Drive in there for the mural.	01:34:03
	Availing and for the library opening it was.	01:34:06
	Really nice to see the parking lot just smooth and clean.	01:34:09
	I appreciate your work on grants. I am always looking for grant opportunities through SCAG. I sit on the transportation committee,	01:34:13
	so if you ever.	01:34:17
	If there's anything I can do as a member of that committee, please let me know.	01:34:21
	And.	01:34:25
	I understand you have probation.	01:34:27
	Back happening with landscaping as long as you approve it.	01:34:29
	On tonight's agenda, OK, well we're working on that. OK, we'll get to that. Thank you anyway. Thanks. Thank you to all your staff	01:34:33
	and your.	01:34:37
	Thank for your hard work.	01:34:41
	Yeah, Mayor Pro Tem.	01:34:42
	Yes, that's quite a bit. There's a lot of congratulatory things that your department did.	01:34:44
	Bubbling Springs Park is a huge success. I mean.	01:34:50
	I live on Park Ave. so I get to drive bubbly Springs and just to see the amount of people.	01:34:54
	Using that is just great. They're loving it.	01:34:59
	So I.	01:35:03
	I know it's.	01:35:04
	Gabby department that also helped out with that.	01:35:06
	But it's good to see the, you know the library.	01:35:08
	The swing sets at the beach.	01:35:12
	The repaving of.	01:35:13
	Channel Islands.	01:35:16
	The sewer line was a huge project.	01:35:18
	You just, you guys had a, you guys had a packed year.	01:35:23
	And uh.	01:35:26
	Hats off to to your department so.	01:35:28
	Your, your guidance and your leadership, you know, contributed to all the successes within your department. So congratulations on	01:35:31
	that.	01:35:34
	You know, walking down the beach and I see.	01:35:39
	You know, everybody's happy. You know, everybody's walking around here exercising and.	01:35:42
	You know, everybody's enjoying.	01:35:46
	Winnie, me and.	01:35:48
	That that is attributed to our public works department. So thank you.	01:35:49
	Thank you.	01:35:53
	Yeah, Mr. Camarillo, I think everyone has already said what I was thinking about, but thanks for the presentation. It really.	01:35:54
	Brings to mind the work that goes on in the public Works department.	01:36:01
	I'm always see you sitting here and although he's the public works.	01:36:06
	You know, Director.	01:36:09
	But then.	01:36:10
	The actual presentation just showed me today.	01:36:11
	All the elements that are under the.	01:36:14
	Public Works Department. So thank you for your leadership. Now you got great people in each of the areas, but you are the leader	01:36:16
	of the Public Works department. So thank you so much for all the work that you do.	01:36:21
	Thank you.	01:36:26
	Behalf of.	01:36:32
	Yeah.	01:36:47
	OK, 123.	01:36:50
	All right. Thank you.	01:36:56
	OK.	01:37:03
	As we come back together, we will be. We will now recess the City Council meeting and call to order the special.	01:37:05
	Joint meeting.	01:37:12
	Of the City Council and the Housing Authority and the Surplus Property Authority Commission the time.	01:37:13
	Is now 723.	01:37:19
	Madam Clerk, we have a roll call.	01:37:23
	Member Blackwell.	01:37:25
	Councilmember, Member. Commissioner Goma.	01:37:28
	Here Umm.	01:37:30
	Councilmember, Member. Commissioner Hernandez.	01:37:31
	Councilmember, Member. Commissioner Perez here. Mayor Pro Tem, Vice Chair. Vice President Lopez.	01:37:33
	Here and mayor chair President McQueen Lejeune.	01:37:40
	Here, let the record reflect that Member Brown is absent.	01:37:44
	Thank you. So we'll now consider the items on the consent calendar.	01:37:49
	To approve the minutes unless there is a request to.	01:37:53
	Discuss the minutes first.	01:37:57
	Is there a motion and a second?	01:37:59
	So moved.	01:38:02
	2nd.	01:38:03
	Madam Clerk, can we take a vote?	01:38:05
	All in favor, aye?	01:38:07
	All opposed.	01:38:09
	Hearing none motion. Motion passes unanimously with Member Brown absent.	01:38:10
	Great. We'll now move to the public hearing. Madam Clerk, do you have a proof of publication as required by law and a complete	01:38:15
	file of reports and exhibits?	01:38:19
	Yes, Madam Mayor. Great. Will the staff please present the report?	01:38:24
	Yes, thank you.	01:38:29
	So we have a presentation we'll be going through for our second budget workshop.	01:38:32
	Of this year.	01:38:36
	I want to.	01:38:38
	Ask Ashley to join us up at the podium. Ashley, our interim finance director, has been critical on this.	01:38:41
	Budget project.	01:38:48
	And I also want to take a moment before we start to thank all of our department directors for the work that they've done on the	01:38:49
	budget. This is another example where.	01:38:54
	It really took the whole team to pull together and and.	01:38:59
	Tackle this budget. And so we do have, as we know, Fred Camarillo from our public works.	01:39:03
	Department. Uh.	01:39:09
	Gabby Basuah from our Housing and Facilities Department. Tony Stewart from Community Development.	01:39:10
	Chief Federico from our.	01:39:16
	Police Department and Ashley.	01:39:18
	Our finance interim finance director.	01:39:20
	And I hope I didn't forget anybody.	01:39:22
	But so.	01:39:25
	Everybody is.	01:39:27
	Present and available as we go through the budget.	01:39:28
	If there's questions, we're all available to answer those questions.	01:39:32
	This budget workshop's going to look a little different than I think they've looked in the past, I think.	01:39:38
	I'll go through some background, but just very high level before we start is we've basically started with last year's budget and	01:39:44
	asked each department to.	01:39:49
	Go through their budgets and make.	01:39:54
	What we originally started out was a goal of 5% reductions or about $1.3 million.	01:39:56
	As we worked through the budget and we.	01:40:03
	Sort of worked through some of the.	01:40:08
	Updates we had received like things like sales tax.	01:40:13
	Forecast is being adjusted.	01:40:18
	Various items like that, we realized that we needed to make further reductions. So I want to thank.	01:40:21
	Again, all those departments because we pulled together and essentially with those reductions and.	01:40:27
	The freezing of the positions that were currently posted.	01:40:32
	We we ended up.	01:40:37
	Accomplishing uh.	01:40:39
	A little more than $2,000,000 in savings, which is a.	01:40:41
	Not easy to do, particularly after we had already.	01:40:44
	Made revisions.	01:40:48
	About a year, maybe 18 months ago where we had already made some significant reductions, so.	01:40:50
	It was a difficult process this year.	01:40:55
	But we'll, we'll go through this year's budget with sort of like I said that structure being.	01:41:00
	Sort of starting with this year's, you know, the the most recent year budget and then identifying what we are proposing to remove	01:41:08
	or reduce from that budget. So.	01:41:13
	So just as a starting point.	01:41:19
	This is workshop 2 are in our first budget workshop. It was much more high level big picture than the second workshop will be.	01:41:21
	We talked about at that time trying to.	01:41:29
	Really figure out.	01:41:32
	High level What is?	01:41:35
	The city's goal What is a sustainable budget?	01:41:37
	There's been.	01:41:41
	Sort of ebbs and flows and we had some.	01:41:41
	Unique situations like.	01:41:44
	Being one of the first cities that had cannabis.	01:41:46
	Dispensaries open up and so.	01:41:49
	When you look back our.	01:41:51
	Revenues.	01:41:54
	Have really fluctuated in the past and so.	01:41:56
	We talked in the last meeting about, you know, what should our standard sustainable budget be? What should the goal be?	01:41:59
	And we had identified that and that.	01:42:05
	Was.	01:42:09
	We'll get to the specifics, but we had identified as.	01:42:11
	Target goal and that's the goal we worked towards in making those reductions to match those revenues.	01:42:15
	Secondly, we talked a lot at that meeting about.	01:42:22
	Sort of the next phase, the next six months, the next year being a phase of where we're all going to hear the word uncertainty.	01:42:26
	Quite a bit.	01:42:35
	We were A few of us were invited to attend the ports.	01:42:37
	World Trade Center Event Day and attended, and we noted that the word of the day there also seemed to be uncertainty. It seems to	01:42:42
	be catching on that.	01:42:46
	That is.	01:42:51
	What people are expecting over the next year.	01:42:52
	So we want to make sure that we're preparing for uncertainty, but not overreacting and not.	01:42:56
	Making.	01:43:04
	Unreasonable reductions, but trying to focus on reasonable reductions to get prepared for that.	01:43:06
	Uncertainty.	01:43:12
	And then the last note there at the bottom is just.	01:43:13
	That because of that, we are taking reasonable steps, but we expect.	01:43:16
	To have more budget adjustment conversations during the fiscal year depending on what happens.	01:43:21
	And whether?	01:43:27
	Revenues. Umm.	01:43:29
	Come in better than expected or worse than expected. It's just a year that we expect.	01:43:31
	To make adjustments throughout the year.	01:43:36
	So as we talked about last.	01:43:41
	Last meeting trying to sort of.	01:43:45
	Identify what a reasonable budget is.	01:43:47
	We put this chart together and I think from this chart it's.	01:43:50
	A little more clear of what I think we expect.	01:43:54
	This chart shows.	01:43:58
	The last two years, in the next two years and what we expect with revenues.	01:44:00
	I think.	01:44:04
	The word I would use with those revenues is flat.	01:44:05
	Over the last two years.	01:44:09
	Revenues of 27.23 million and 27.58 very flat, just a couple $100,000 difference.	01:44:11
	And then what we're expecting over the next two years is just more.	01:44:18
	Flat revenues with just minor increases.	01:44:21
	Of about a couple $100,000 each year.	01:44:25
	Mostly, umm.	01:44:28
	That's probably going to be attributable to the.	01:44:29
	Property tax, which kind of continues to increase at a steady pace until something major changes there.	01:44:32
	So, so we think that's our reasonable.	01:44:39
	Stable target that we'll be trying to match our expenses to.	01:44:42
	What the expenses show is a little different. It shows the challenge that we've had of in 2324, we.	01:44:47
	Made reductions to try to.	01:44:53
	Match our revenues.	01:44:55
	But by the next year, just.	01:44:58
	Without adding anything, our costs increase.	01:45:00
	With negotiated pay increases and cost of.	01:45:03
	Materials and equipment and contracts going up.	01:45:07
	And so we had to make reductions in this first year.	01:45:10
	And then we what we expect is that to be a continuous battle of.	01:45:15
	Making reductions and then costs going up. So that's that's been a challenge.	01:45:19
	That.	01:45:26
	That we've seen.	01:45:28
	And so.	01:45:30
	In the below chart.	01:45:31
	I think a couple key things there is that chart shows what?	01:45:33
	Fund balances.	01:45:37
	Our general fund fund balance and so we talked a little bit at the last meeting about.	01:45:40
	A lot of the reductions we've made so far is to make sure that we have the padding of that fund balance, that we're not dipping	01:45:46
	into it for as long as possible and that it's there to.	01:45:50
	To be able to react to.	01:45:54
	Economic uncertainty.	01:45:56
	And potential issues.	01:45:58
	So as of June 30th, 2025, that fund balance should be at about $7.5 million.	01:45:59
	And what this chart shows then is that after.	01:46:06
	The 2025 revenues and expenditures.	01:46:09
	Which we?	01:46:13
	Proposed to be balanced.	01:46:15
	And then?	01:46:18
	It gets a little complicated, but because we're reducing our.	01:46:20
	Expenditures.	01:46:24
	It actually means that we have.	01:46:26
	Sort of a surplus in our emergency reserve and so that surplus.	01:46:30
	Since it's six months of our operations actually goes.	01:46:35
	The reserve goes down and the.	01:46:40
	Reduction actually means $1,000,000 goes back into the fund balance.	01:46:43
	And then that's offset by the capital improvement projects of about $600,000.	01:46:48
	So we'd end that year actually with.	01:46:53
	The fund balance going up to $8 million.	01:46:57
	Really, just because that emergency reserve money moves from the emergency reserve to our.	01:47:01
	Unassigned fund balance.	01:47:06
	Which is good, but then you can see.	01:47:08
	On year 2.	01:47:10
	Kind of fast forwarding.	01:47:12
	That, umm.	01:47:14
	It drops back down to about $6.8 million because that year.	01:47:15
	There is a deficit in Year 2 of the budget.	01:47:20
	That we're proposing to be covered with that fund balance. So essentially the extra.	01:47:23
	Fund balance.	01:47:29
	That can, the extra money that can.	01:47:31
	Roll into the fund balance in year one will rollback out in year 2 to cover.	01:47:34
	The the gap in year 2 so.	01:47:38
	So very simply.	01:47:41
	We've tried to put together.	01:47:45
	A balanced budget, even though I think, I still think we have work to do structurally to make sure that.	01:47:47
	In future years, because the challenge is Year 2.	01:47:53
	Does.	01:47:57
	End up in a deficit that's covered by that fund balance but.	01:47:59
	And then?	01:48:03
	Moving forward.	01:48:05
	That gap could get bigger and bigger unless we keep making adjustments to to stay balanced.	01:48:06
	The other thing about that too I want to note because.	01:48:12
	You know, normally I wouldn't recommend adopting a budget with the deficit in year 2.	01:48:15
	But uh.	01:48:20
	There's also some other.	01:48:20
	Things that we expect to happen.	01:48:23
	We know that we've we have some things like some pending retirements and things.	01:48:25
	That umm uh.	01:48:29
	Will probably happen during year one that then will.	01:48:31
	That then we'll roll into.	01:48:36
	Savings for future years. So there are some.	01:48:39
	Steps will continue to take to get balanced in those future years.	01:48:45
	And so that last chart I just showed kind of showed the detail, but at a simple glance, the unassigned fund balance.	01:48:52
	Which would be estimated at 7.5 million.	01:48:59
	On June 30th of this year.	01:49:03
	Like I said, would grow because of that.	01:49:05
	Emergency.	01:49:08
	Funding reduction.	01:49:09
	But then.	01:49:11
	It drops to balance the budget in that second year. So you can see sort of.	01:49:12
	You know.	01:49:17
	From 7.5 million to 6.8 million in two years.	01:49:19
	And that's really important because.	01:49:23
	We said this.	01:49:27
	At the last meeting.	01:49:29
	If we hadn't made the reductions we had made and we didn't make these additional reductions.	01:49:31
	We would be.	01:49:36
	Depleting fund balance.	01:49:38
	Before June 30th of 2027 so.	01:49:39
	The fact that we end up at June 30th with $6.8 million in fund balance.	01:49:42
	Means that we've really.	01:49:48
	Done a lot to.	01:49:50
	Be better prepared for that economic uncertainty or potential problems down the road.	01:49:51
	Yeah.	01:50:00
	So are you Umm.	01:50:02
	As you go through those three years and your revenues are flat?	01:50:03
	So any uptick?	01:50:08
	In economic uncertainty.	01:50:10
	Be reflected very positively.	01:50:13
	In other words, if if suddenly.	01:50:16
	Things start shaping up.	01:50:18
	Revenue started ticking up a little bit.	01:50:20
	Yeah, I think.	01:50:22
	This is our best guess at this point, but any major changes?	01:50:25
	You know, if the economic uncertainty turns into either certainty, good or bad, it's going to change.	01:50:29
	This this is.	01:50:35
	Sort of assuming.	01:50:37
	It's our best effort to sort of assume what would happen if there weren't any major changes that.	01:50:39
	That we.	01:50:44
	Aware of at this point.	01:50:46
	For that answer the question, yeah, I just want to so.	01:50:53
	We're not presenting A rosy revenue picture. We're keeping it flat.	01:50:57
	And that's.	01:51:03
	What they call very conservative.	01:51:05
	Budgeting. In other words, we're we're, we're not.	01:51:07
	We're just keeping it flat even though it.	01:51:10
	May tick up.	01:51:14
	Even in the.	01:51:15
	Not the worst of the times, but.	01:51:17
	I would say that it's a conservative budget, but not a very conservative budget. Could it be worse? Yes.	01:51:20
	And I think.	01:51:27
	That goes back to that message we keep.	01:51:30
	Giving of.	01:51:32
	You know, we could try to make all the reductions that we might need to be prepared for the worst case scenario a year from now.	01:51:33
	But uh.	01:51:40
	Again, going back to that word, uncertain.	01:51:41
	Our recommendation is don't.	01:51:44
	Don't plan for the.	01:51:46
	Don't make.	01:51:48
	Permanent reductions that you can't undo for the worst case scenario that might not happen.	01:51:49
	But be very prepared to react to that worst case scenario if it happens.	01:51:54
	So not rosy, but.	01:51:59
	Not worst case scenario either, so.	01:52:02
	Yeah, so.	01:52:06
	I guess a good example would be like you guys were forecasting property tax flat at 2%, correct?	01:52:08
	I mean, we're still seeing housing sales.	01:52:15
	Slower but.	01:52:18
	They're still happening and.	01:52:19
	The prices are still elevated so.	01:52:21
	You know, again, it's.	01:52:24
	It's a very conservative.	01:52:25
	Proposed estimates which are good I think.	01:52:29
	Going from 7.4 million?	01:52:35
	In operating funds to 6.8 in year 2.	01:52:38
	That's not bad.	01:52:41
	Yeah. So good job to the staff. Yeah, thank you.	01:52:42
	Back over to you.	01:52:46
	OK, so.	01:52:47
	That was all general fund related and we will still have some more conversation, but we also wanted to just highlight quickly the	01:52:50
	utility enterprise funds.	01:52:54
	Utilities, including our water fund, our wastewater fund and our solid waste fund, and these are the funds that pay for those	01:52:57
	services, water service, wastewater and solid waste.	01:53:02
	And we've talked a little bit recently, the council gave staff authorization to move forward with the rate study and and we've	01:53:07
	issued our.	01:53:11
	Request for proposals for.	01:53:16
	An expert to do that.	01:53:18
	But we wanted to show why we're.	01:53:20
	Having that conversation.	01:53:23
	We talked when we.	01:53:25
	Went through that process we talked about.	01:53:27
	Water had been the.	01:53:29
	Fund that had done.	01:53:31
	The rates.	01:53:32
	Had looked at the rates most recently.	01:53:34
	So that's reflected here where you could see that that is the fund that actually has.	01:53:36
	Some fund balance.	01:53:41
	You can see that.	01:53:43
	I think you can see that it's declining overall.	01:53:46
	And then I think one key point there is we are doing our water master plan that's going to have all of the projects that we need	01:53:50
	to do in the water division. And so we think that will be a further pressure on that water fund.	01:53:56
	But.	01:54:03
	But that fund is.	01:54:04
	You know, umm.	01:54:07
	Not.	01:54:08
	The most concerning?	01:54:10
	Fund the you can see what the wastewater fund that that.	01:54:13
	Is declining each year and it's only got a couple $1,000,000 left in that fund.	01:54:18
	And then obviously the most concerning is solid waste, which has less than $1,000,000 in that fund.	01:54:22
	And at the end of June 30th, 2026 would have.	01:54:27
	$55,000 in that fund.	01:54:31
	And at the end of 2027, it would, there would not be funding left in that fund, which really means that it becomes another drain	01:54:33
	on the general fund because the general fund will have to subsidize it, which would be another.	01:54:40
	Challenge to staying balanced.	01:54:46
	So we wanted to illustrate that when we talk about why we're looking at the rates, it's because the solid waste funds.	01:54:49
	The solid waste fund primarily, but we want to look at all of them and make sure, but the solid waste fund.	01:54:57
	Isn't going to sustain itself unless we make some adjustments to it.	01:55:03
	So that.	01:55:09
	Is just a little bit on the enterprise funds and the enterprise funds are also.	01:55:11
	Relevant when we talk about CIP, Fred showed that list of all the projects that Public Works has.	01:55:15
	And.	01:55:20
	It's a good thing, but.	01:55:22
	But we have to be aware of this.	01:55:25
	That.	01:55:26
	We don't actually have many general fund projects this year and so the over the next two years. So the CIP shouldn't really.	01:55:28
	Be a big drain on the general fund.	01:55:35
	But we do have many enterprise funds and other funded projects.	01:55:37
	And so as long as they have the funding, that's great. But.	01:55:43
	Then when you look and you see, for example, solid waste, you know the funding level it has.	01:55:46
	That could be a concern as well.	01:55:51
	So we're doing that rate study and we'll.	01:55:54
	We'll be bringing that back to council throughout the year.	01:55:57
	OK. So with regard to rate studies moving forward, are we going to?	01:56:01
	Have a policy that.	01:56:05
	To every two years do a rate study or are we going to implement a COLA adjustment every year? Do we have a COLA adjustment every	01:56:07
	year or?	01:56:11
	And when was the last time we did a rate study?	01:56:16
	Yeah, that we've talked about.	01:56:19
	How we need?	01:56:21
	Be better on that. Yeah, there's been, there's a couple things that we're gonna recommend.	01:56:22
	General best practice would be.	01:56:27
	Go through the process every five years.	01:56:30
	Even if you're not increasing rates, at least go through the process and make sure that they can cover all of their costs.	01:56:32
	But one thing that cities.	01:56:39
	Do as well as.	01:56:42
	Is that when they increase the rates, they actually usually have language that says that the city can pass through?	01:56:44
	Rate increases that other agencies.	01:56:50
	Bill us for SO for example.	01:56:53
	If another agency you know adds on a fee for.	01:56:55
	I you know the.	01:57:01
	Food waste. Or you know, whatever it is.	01:57:03
	Then having language so that we can pass that through because it's not something we're choosing to do, but somebody, you know,	01:57:07
	somebody has to pay for it. And if it's not getting passed through, it means all the taxpayers are paying for.	01:57:13
	Each person's.	01:57:19
	Bill, which is not appropriate.	01:57:21
	And so we want to make sure that that we include language like that in the past.	01:57:24
	We haven't included that language and so if somebody added a fee on in the middle of the.	01:57:29
	Process. We just had to eat that fee essentially so.	01:57:34
	So we'll be looking at trying to come up with that.	01:57:38
	That probably that five year standard with that language that allows us to pass through costs when they get.	01:57:41
	Charged us.	01:57:47
	Is inflation a pass through cost?	01:57:50
	It could be in certain circumstances, like for example, I think one example of where this was a problem for us is for example, if	01:57:52
	Callegus is selling us water and they increase their rates.	01:57:57
	Because they're increasing it because of inflation and colas and everything else.	01:58:03
	But if we don't have that language, then then.	01:58:07
	We end up.	01:58:11
	Potentially eating that cost.	01:58:12
	Go ahead, Mayor Pro Tem.	01:58:17
	Do we? I know we use most.	01:58:18
	Most of our water comes from United Water.	01:58:21
	Which is the cheapest?	01:58:23
	Do we review their?	01:58:26
	Their board meeting minutes.	01:58:28
	Because I did attend one of their.	01:58:30
	Field trips. And they were.	01:58:35
	Speaking as if rates were going up.	01:58:39
	So I was just curious, do they present?	01:58:42
	How are we?	01:58:45
	Communicating with them.	01:58:46
	We have a few ways and.	01:58:47
	One is.	01:58:50
	A few of us will get sort of updates from United and Cayegas and so we will get notified that.	01:58:53
	That they're, you know, considering a rate increase and, you know.	01:59:01
	Or whatever their.	01:59:06
	Proposing at the time.	01:59:07
	So that does come through the city. Typically we get notification of that and then I think last year even we made sure to.	01:59:09
	Post public notice of that as well, because.	01:59:17
	It's a 218 process where people can protest the increase.	01:59:20
	So, so we try to make sure we're aware.	01:59:25
	Monitoring it and that we're making people aware when it's happening.	01:59:29
	Any other questions?	01:59:34
	Get back over to you.	01:59:36
	OK. And so that's all background and.	01:59:39
	Big picture.	01:59:42
	The next couple slides are going to be.	01:59:44
	Now you know what?	01:59:47
	Reductions were proposed by.	01:59:48
	Across the departments.	01:59:51
	So again, sort of if you keep in mind, it's like starting at the level of service that we currently have.	01:59:53
	And then?	02:00:01
	These are the reductions that are being proposed from.	02:00:02
	From prior budget.	02:00:06
	And so.	02:00:08
	Just to be clear. So the amount being.	02:00:09
	The amount that's listed on these slides is the amount that we're proposing reducing.	02:00:11
	It's not the total amount.	02:00:16
	And.	02:00:19
	We were trying to keep it.	02:00:20
	Simple, but they're, you know they're they're.	02:00:21
	There's benefits to either way, but we were just trying to keep the presentation very simple, so we don't want to.	02:00:25
	Bombard people with information and so.	02:00:31
	So.	02:00:34
	We went through department by department.	02:00:35
	I'll try to summarize, but we have the lists of everything that's being reduced.	02:00:38
	But most are a lot of things are things looking at things like contracts that we have.	02:00:41
	And trying to reduce those contracts, looking at supply budgets.	02:00:47
	Training and travel budgets. Subscriptions for items, Printing services.	02:00:53
	In administration, this is probably administration specific, but reducing.	02:00:58
	Some budget.	02:01:03
	For recruitments, for example.	02:01:04
	And so.	02:01:08
	We did our best to try to find those types of reductions that wouldn't.	02:01:11
	Really impact.	02:01:15
	Residents at the service level.	02:01:17
	Level umm.	02:01:19
	And uh.	02:01:20
	And so.	02:01:21
	In the administration department, for example, most of the reductions are of that level.	02:01:24
	I think.	02:01:31
	For example, the the largest reduction proposed was the reduction in the specialized legal services contracts.	02:01:32
	And I think a lot of these are those contracts and subscriptions.	02:01:40
	So I won't go through.	02:01:44
	Each item.	02:01:47
	But if there's any questions about any.	02:01:49
	I can answer those.	02:01:52
	Are there any questions on any of?	02:01:59
	These.	02:02:01
	Sure. Yeah, just I didn't see this when I was reviewing the budget. What are we going to do without Zoom?	02:02:05
	Where are we getting have?	02:02:10
	We're going to move to Microsoft Teams, yes. OK, yeah. And so that's that's exactly it is that with our new.	02:02:12
	Microsoft Office.	02:02:19
	Platform. We have Teams for free so we can eliminate our Zoom subscription.	02:02:20
	Yeah, I I don't see, I had a couple of questions. So the.	02:02:26
	Zenefits is the.	02:02:30
	Fight for the SO.	02:02:32
	Is there another way that employees will be able to? Yeah, and a lot of it was that and I want to thank our staff for.	02:02:34
	For these types of items where?	02:02:41
	We were looking at making a change to how we did things in in some cases.	02:02:43
	Made it happen quicker so that we could reduce the contract and so we have a new program.	02:02:48
	That, uh.	02:02:53
	HR's utilizing and so the Zenefits tool can be eliminated without and we'd still have a way to get information out to employees	02:02:54
	regarding HR benefits. OK. And the other one that I don't see on here was the extension of contracts.	02:03:02
	Computers from three years to five years with implication of that, Yeah. And so I think that might be on.	02:03:10
	Yeah, it might be on another slide, but yes, that is.	02:03:18
	There are, you know, we were looking for.	02:03:21
	You know, kind of no brainers, but.	02:03:25
	We ran out of those and.	02:03:27
	So then we had to really make some difficult decisions and I think one of the.	02:03:29
	Difficult ones was.	02:03:33
	The cities had a goal of getting to a three-year computer replacement.	02:03:35
	Goal, I don't think we had ever reached it, but we did have to sort of stop and say, you know.	02:03:39
	It was a good goal would we could afford it, but now?	02:03:46
	You know, umm.	02:03:49
	We're moving back to the five year goal.	02:03:50
	It just means you know if.	02:03:52
	It just means people are going to have to use their current computers longer, but we don't think that it's.	02:03:56
	Detrimental.	02:04:03
	At that point, So thank you. I didn't know that you had our you had not got to the three years. Yeah.	02:04:05
	Yeah. So there's a few items and I'll try to mention them, but there's a few items when we go through here where it was like we	02:04:09
	had a good goal to get to this point and it's like, well, we're just gonna have to go with good enough.	02:04:14
	For a couple years.	02:04:18
	Yeah, there are some items on here that I didn't notice in the.	02:04:22
	Staff report.	02:04:26
	I imagine you'll talk.	02:04:28
	I think you identified the community events in the staff report, unless it's changed at all.	02:04:30
	Well.	02:04:36
	It's broken out. We tried to like kind of summarize it in the presentation.	02:04:37
	So it's in the staff report, Yes. OK. So there's nothing new. Yeah, since.	02:04:43
	Oh, no, yeah. So everything that we're proposing should be in the staff report. What about the county election expenses? What's	02:04:48
	the impact that?	02:04:51
	That's going to have. So there's an example where in past years.	02:04:54
	The city would.	02:04:59
	Budget for an election every year.	02:05:01
	But we really only have elections every other year.	02:05:03
	There we just.	02:05:08
	We don't expect to have a city election.	02:05:09
	This year.	02:05:13
	25 to 26.	02:05:15
	So we took that money out.	02:05:17
	If, for example, the Council.	02:05:20
	Decided there was something important that they needed to put on the ballot. Then we would just have to tell you that.	02:05:22
	We need to.	02:05:28
	Find funding to pay for it.	02:05:29
	Basically.	02:05:31
	So that's an example where and actually it's a really good explanation for why on year 2.	02:05:34
	Some costs go up and because Year 2 we expect.	02:05:40
	To have an election, so that funding has to be in year 2, but it's not in year 1.	02:05:43
	All right. Very good. Thank you.	02:05:47
	So that was administration which was includes city managers, finance, HR, IT.	02:05:53
	The next slide includes both finance and community and economic development.	02:05:59
	And finance?	02:06:04
	And in the staff report, it's explained a little bit more, but we are proposing restructuring.	02:06:06
	The department to be able to eliminate.	02:06:12
	The deputy director position and reclassify a manager position to.	02:06:14
	To a.	02:06:19
	A specialist position.	02:06:21
	That position.	02:06:24
	Is currently vacant.	02:06:25
	Right, the Manager 1.	02:06:27
	The manager, yes.	02:06:29
	OK, so that.	02:06:31
	That reorganization, restructuring of the finance department would.	02:06:33
	Result in $184,000 in savings.	02:06:38
	This one is an interesting one, the pass through of credit card fees.	02:06:42
	A lot of cities kind of similar to the conversation earlier. A lot of cities adopted language where.	02:06:46
	When people use their credit cards, and especially as rewards, credit cards are used more and more. And the fees.	02:06:53
	To you know, it's what people have seen all around where restaurants now a lot will will say, you know, minimum transaction or you	02:07:00
	know, not allowing certain credit cards.	02:07:05
	But uh.	02:07:11
	Since now those credit cards have higher fees to.	02:07:12
	The uh.	02:07:16
	Agency using it. A lot of cities have put language.	02:07:17
	Adopted language saying that those fees.	02:07:19
	Need to be passed back to.	02:07:22
	The person using it.	02:07:25
	So you know, if you're using your credit card, it's an additional 3% service fee or something like that.	02:07:28
	And so we're going to be.	02:07:33
	Proposing some some.	02:07:35
	Language like that and so that.	02:07:37
	It adds up. As you can see, the credit card fees are not insignificant.	02:07:39
	So that'd be $71,000 in savings.	02:07:43
	For Community and economic development.	02:07:47
	The largest reduction is related to our Community Development Director. Mr. Stewart has announced he's retiring and so	02:07:50
	congratulations to him.	02:07:56
	And so we're going to look at.	02:08:02
	Freezing the position and an interim solution that would.	02:08:05
	Result in a.	02:08:10
	Cost savings of about $200,000.	02:08:11
	And then the other reductions in that department.	02:08:15
	There really is not.	02:08:18
	Significant costs other than just the positions that exist and that are filled.	02:08:20
	So the other reductions are very small amounts as you can see you know $500 here are there in reductions in.	02:08:24
	Travel, training and supplies and memberships.	02:08:30
	Yeah.	02:08:34
	Yes. So I have some concerns about the director position, especially in light of the fact that we've.	02:08:37
	Need to.	02:08:45
	Implement.	02:08:46
	Economic.	02:08:47
	Development plan, especially in light of this budget.	02:08:49
	What's what are your plans for the?	02:08:53
	Whoever takes the directors place and it won't be a.	02:08:58
	Director, it'll be probably a contract employee or something else, but umm.	02:09:02
	How?	02:09:07
	They're going to be equipped to help us.	02:09:08
	Implement the economic development plan. Yeah, we're working on it is probably the best answer, I think.	02:09:11
	We you know the day that.	02:09:17
	That I found out our current directors retiring.	02:09:21
	The immediate thought was that we.	02:09:25
	You know, fill it right and then.	02:09:27
	Then we start going through the budget and it's like, well, we've.	02:09:29
	Have to find savings somewhere. We can either freeze the current positions or we have to have more difficult conversations.	02:09:31
	And so it's definitely not going to be easy to freeze that position. It's not something that we want to do.	02:09:37
	But umm.	02:09:43
	We're gonna freeze it. I've already talked to.	02:09:45
	Mr. Stewart, and we're gonna.	02:09:48
	Follow up with the team about some ideas that.	02:09:51
	That we can use in the interim.	02:09:55
	And then I think when we get back to the freeze.	02:09:57
	There's going to be a couple of freezes we talk about.	02:10:00
	Is uh.	02:10:02
	One of the.	02:10:03
	Points I want to make is that.	02:10:04
	What we're trying to do, and it's not easy, but we're trying when we get a vacancy to freeze that.	02:10:07
	And then as we get other vacancies, because right now we just need that savings.	02:10:14
	When we get other vacancies, then we'll have the opportunity to say, OK, we're going to unfreeze this position and freeze this	02:10:18
	one.	02:10:21
	Instead. And so it's just going to be constant prioritization.	02:10:25
	But knowing we have to save X many dollars from from freezes.	02:10:29
	So right now.	02:10:33
	Those are the ones that are vacant, so those are the ones getting frozen. But if some of those other.	02:10:35
	Things happen like we've talked about, you know, different retirements or vacancies that we're expecting.	02:10:40
	Then as soon as one of those happens that that is a lower priority, we would.	02:10:47
	Prioritize filling the director position so.	02:10:52
	I wouldn't necessarily say that I expect this to be frozen.	02:10:55
	Long term, but I think it's the first step while we while we go through that process.	02:11:00
	OK, I have one question.	02:11:08
	On the economic development plan.	02:11:11
	It concerns me a little bit that.	02:11:14
	I mean, is there?	02:11:18
	Is there a if if implemented?	02:11:21
	Does it automatically lead to increased revenue?	02:11:25
	I mean.	02:11:28
	Because it just seems like.	02:11:30
	Tying the director with the economic development plan together.	02:11:33
	I don't see the connection for increased revenues and.	02:11:36
	And I say that because.	02:11:40
	Our city is.	02:11:41
	Practically built out.	02:11:43
	Yeah, I think.	02:11:45
	I think that.	02:11:47
	As we.	02:11:48
	Move forward.	02:11:49
	There's going to be sometimes where.	02:11:51
	I I think we're all going to pitch in to do some of the economic development and those types of things.	02:11:55
	Think we're gonna have to look at low cost?	02:12:01
	There, there are on our economic development plan, there's some low cost items and then there's some expensive items. And so it	02:12:03
	might be a case where this year.	02:12:07
	Where where you know we might prioritize the lower cost items as an example, so.	02:12:12
	So yeah, I wanted to have the record reflect that. Member Blackwell.	02:12:20
	Had to leave but we still do have a quorum so we can continue. Thank you.	02:12:26
	Any other questions? Yeah, if I could just respond, Hernandez.	02:12:33
	Line of discussion. I was just.	02:12:37
	I looked. I was looking through the line item budget here.	02:12:38
	And there's a item here called.	02:12:42
	Other tax Tourism Tourism Business Improvement District.	02:12:46
	Which I think would be an item for discussion later on down the road on how.	02:12:51
	I don't know that we actually have such a district. There's only.	02:12:56
	$1000 in there, so maybe you know that's.	02:13:00
	There seems to me to be some potential for growth and some ideas around how we might build that.	02:13:04
	Dollar amount.	02:13:11
	Plant some seeds in that tourism.	02:13:15
	Business.	02:13:18
	Improvement District, wherever it may be.	02:13:19
	I think.	02:13:22
	One of the things we said last meeting we didn't say up front. This meeting is right now major focus is on reducing expenses	02:13:24
	because that's the thing that we can really control immediately and kind of get in front of.	02:13:30
	But uh.	02:13:36
	In the next.	02:13:37
	Year, another focus is going to be on looking at revenues and.	02:13:38
	How to pay for things. So for example, coming up with some ideas on how to pay for.	02:13:44
	For economic development projects and things like that, so.	02:13:50
	So that is sort of.	02:13:53
	It's something that we.	02:13:56
	No, we need to look at is how to increase revenues and particularly for certain items that we need to do.	02:13:58
	Great. Thank you.	02:14:07
	Whatever. So the next slide is the police department's reductions in the in the staff report, the Police Department spread up.	02:14:08
	Spread up through several divisions.	02:14:19
	So this slide, it tries to pull them all into one slide.	02:14:22
	We have the.	02:14:26
	The major item is $181,000 delay of the Tyler CAD upgrade.	02:14:27
	This is similar.	02:14:34
	Cities are facing challenges with these types of upgrades.	02:14:35
	Across the board and paying for them, but.	02:14:40
	An easy example is like the Microsoft Office platform that that cities use where it used to be if you have.	02:14:43
	You know 50 computers. You buy 50 copies of Microsoft Office and you own those copies.	02:14:50
	And now everybody's forcing you into the subscription model and you need to.	02:14:54
	Move to the cloud and pay a monthly subscription and kind of pay for it in perpetuity.	02:14:59
	And, umm.	02:15:06
	So the Tyler system is going through the Tyler CAD system is going through a similar change slash upgrade.	02:15:07
	We had a.	02:15:14
	Project proposed a couple years back to move to that upgrade.	02:15:15
	And.	02:15:20
	Essentially.	02:15:22
	It hasn't occurred yet, but we're saying basically delay it.	02:15:24
	At this point.	02:15:28
	The deadline on it isn't.	02:15:31
	Eminent.	02:15:33
	I guess it depends how you define eminent. I think that the deadline is a few years out.	02:15:35
	4-4 or five years out so.	02:15:39
	So basically we were just saying.	02:15:42
	You know, basically proposing postponing it.	02:15:44
	For now.	02:15:47
	So yeah, Councilmember.	02:15:48
	Yes, I just want to know what the impact of that delay will mean for.	02:15:50
	Dispatch, yeah, I think the main impact is.	02:15:54
	That.	02:15:59
	Really, it's a technical impact, the.	02:16:01
	Current system that's in use where they have their own servers in a closet in the Police Department is going to remain and they	02:16:06
	aren't doing the change over into the cloud.	02:16:10
	Does it mean you know the program stops working? No.	02:16:18
	And you know, and I would point out, I think.	02:16:21
	Some people say there's benefits to either way. Some people prefer to have the servers at the station, some people prefer it in	02:16:24
	the cloud.	02:16:27
	I do prefer it in the cloud because when you have these programs in there in the cloud.	02:16:30
	And it's sort of on the vendor to support it versus on us to support it.	02:16:35
	But umm.	02:16:39
	But for now.	02:16:40
	It's the question is, can we afford to go to the to the cloud And so we're saying to put that on.	02:16:42
	On hold until again we are able to do some things that umm.	02:16:47
	That allow us to pay for.	02:16:52
	OK, very good. Thank you, Councilmember Perez.	02:16:54
	Yes.	02:16:56
	Where did it go? PD patrol, training and travel.	02:17:00
	So I'm assuming that's not.	02:17:03
	Talking about required.	02:17:06
	Post required training.	02:17:08
	It shouldn't be because it's not reducing all of the training and travel, it's just reducing a portion of the training and travel.	02:17:12
	OK, so.	02:17:19
	And uniform invests. Are you talking about the bulletproof vest?	02:17:20
	I think they got new ones some time ago anyway.	02:17:24
	Yeah. And my understanding and I know.	02:17:27
	We have Chief and Commander here.	02:17:31
	Is we're reducing these?	02:17:33
	Budgets, but that we still have the funding we need to.	02:17:35
	To get by essentially.	02:17:39
	OK. Thank you.	02:17:41
	So I will highlight a few more on this one because I think they are sort of eye-catching ones that people have questions about.	02:17:43
	So after that delay of the Tyler upgrade.	02:17:50
	Again, not because the the current vacant positions were not important, it's just because they were the current vacant positions.	02:17:53
	We proposed freezing those vacant positions and that was how we.	02:18:00
	Bridge that last gap and got balanced. So one of those positions is a vacant police officer position.	02:18:05
	Again.	02:18:11
	Would we keep it?	02:18:12
	Vacant permanently.	02:18:13
	That wouldn't be the plan. The plan would be as another position.	02:18:15
	Becomes available. We prioritize just like we said with the community development director position, but they're just the	02:18:20
	positions that are vacant now.	02:18:23
	The police patrol overtime.	02:18:28
	We propose reducing that one $64,000.	02:18:31
	It's gonna be tough to to match that, but.	02:18:34
	The logic behind.	02:18:38
	That is, that we are actually.	02:18:40
	Very staffed compared to where we were a few years ago. I think we currently have.	02:18:42
	Essentially, 22 of the 23 officer positions will be filled for this budget year.	02:18:49
	Knock on wood, as long as somebody doesn't quit tomorrow.	02:18:54
	With those positions failed.	02:19:00
	We are going to do our best to try to keep our overtime costs.	02:19:03
	Reasonable, uh.	02:19:07
	Now that we have.	02:19:09
	You know the.	02:19:10
	People we need.	02:19:11
	Similarly, patrol overtime was reduced support.	02:19:14
	The PD support overtime is reduced not and again with all these not entirely it's.	02:19:18
	Just a portion of.	02:19:25
	The prior budgeted amounts.	02:19:27
	We have currently 2 part-time support services positions in the Police Department.	02:19:30
	So this proposes freezing both of those for $52,000 in savings.	02:19:36
	Delaying a new evidence freezer.	02:19:41
	An additional dispatch console for $26,000.	02:19:44
	And again, the training, travel uniforms, vests and all those things the goal was.	02:19:48
	Make sure we still have enough.	02:19:53
	To give everybody what they need.	02:19:56
	But ask people to.	02:19:58
	I think in particularly with training and travel like looking at trying to do online trainings where we can to save some money and	02:20:00
	those types of things.	02:20:03
	So the extended computer replacement program was going from three-year to five year computer replacement mentioned earlier.	02:20:10
	That's we're doing it across the city, not just in the Police Department, but.	02:20:16
	But it's reflected here.	02:20:20
	Let's see, so more training and travel gear vests.	02:20:24
	How about the elimination of one of the parking vehicle lease I'm sure residents would like?	02:20:29
	Happy to see that.	02:20:34
	What's the implication of that? Yeah, I believe.	02:20:36
	We have 3 currently, three vehicles currently and it's eliminating one to two. But am I right on that?	02:20:40
	That is one that I.	02:20:46
	Let me know that he has an extra CSO vehicle since that spot is.	02:20:48
	Not being filled right now that that vehicle is available for use.	02:20:55
	So rather than lease one.	02:21:00
	He'll be switching over to that OK, repurposing a vehicle.	02:21:02
	So the rest.	02:21:07
	I don't know that there's any questions on.	02:21:11
	I guess the one that might jump out is the tactical launchers and other weapons. Again, the key thing there is.	02:21:14
	It's a pretty small reduction, so it's not eliminating that budget, but it's just reducing the budget by $1000 there.	02:21:19
	So that's the reductions proposed for the Police Department.	02:21:28
	Next slide is public Works and facilities maintenance, now public works.	02:21:34
	Keep in mind.	02:21:38
	They also have enterprise funds, so.	02:21:39
	This is just specifically general fund related items.	02:21:42
	The $92,000 is essentially we have a.	02:21:45
	Couple I think it's almost $300,000 tree trimming.	02:21:50
	Contract. So we would just be proposing reducing $92,000 from that.	02:21:53
	Which would.	02:21:59
	Isn't something.	02:22:02
	There's certain things that I.	02:22:03
	Really strive to do in its St. maintenance, public safety and tree maintenance because I think that those are the ones that we get	02:22:04
	a lot of.	02:22:08
	Questions about a lot of calls about so it's.	02:22:11
	Not something that we take lightly, but.	02:22:15
	We still have contract funding available for tree trimming and we also still.	02:22:19
	And in fact have actually.	02:22:24
	Worked on increasing our capability to be able to do tree trimming internally, so there's.	02:22:26
	That's part of why we're saying we can do spend less of the contract money.	02:22:31
	So, Councilmember Gama, I'd just like to point out on the bright side of palm trees, you did a massive palm tree trimming project.	02:22:36
	A year ago so.	02:22:43
	Yeah, umm.	02:22:45
	The way Palm Creek palm trees grow.	02:22:46
	You know, it'll be several years before you need to dribble again. Yeah. And I want to give credit because I believe on that	02:22:49
	project was a good example where Public Works actually has focused on getting the ability to do some of that work internally as	02:22:54
	well. So that helps us reduce our contract costs.	02:22:59
	So again, talking about freezing vacant positions and not necessarily that the vacant ones aren't necessarily unimportant.	02:23:06
	Street maintenance worker position is currently vacant.	02:23:14
	It's not one that I would another one that I wouldn't wouldn't be my preference to freeze. But right now under this all those	02:23:17
	circumstances that we.	02:23:21
	Talked about earlier, we're talking about freezing that and then as we have other vacancies then we look at filling.	02:23:24
	That position.	02:23:31
	Similarly, the.	02:23:34
	Contracted on call services for traffic engineering.	02:23:35
	I think.	02:23:38
	The best way to explain that one is that we kind of had money in our budget so that if.	02:23:40
	We got calls from people saying, you know, the city needs to add a streetlight in this location or.	02:23:44
	You know, at a median.	02:23:50
	We had some money where we could just have a traffic engineer analyze it.	02:23:51
	We've reduced that.	02:23:55
	So we'll just have to be more.	02:23:57
	We'll have to prioritize which which.	02:24:00
	Areas we look at and which ones we say aren't, we aren't going to look at.	02:24:02
	And if we?	02:24:06
	With all of these.	02:24:08
	Having a need, we can always come back to council and ask.	02:24:10
	To increase it, it's just we'll have to figure out how we're going to pay for it when that happens, so.	02:24:14
	So this proposes reducing the available sort of the available hours that we'd have a contract traffic engineer.	02:24:20
	The emergency pothole repair services is reduced, not eliminated. It's still funded, so we'd still be.	02:24:27
	Doing what we can.	02:24:34
	As well as.	02:24:37
	Kind of with that, the asphalt materials and the streets overtime and standby pay.	02:24:38
	So what that probably means is we still are going to be doing.	02:24:43
	Tahoe repair and emergency repair it might just take.	02:24:48
	You know, uh.	02:24:51
	A day longer.	02:24:53
	Or it might not be.	02:24:54
	You know, on the spot because we might not have.	02:24:56
	We'll still have some budget for it, but in some cases it might be that we don't.	02:25:00
	Have the overtime or the standby if it's not a priority item so.	02:25:04
	So.	02:25:09
	Again, we're really trying to focus on the things that don't impact our service levels at the end of the day.	02:25:10
	I think.	02:25:16
	With this these kinds of reductions.	02:25:19
	There's going to be some impact, but we're trying to have it just be where maybe it just takes a little longer, but it's not that	02:25:21
	we can't do something.	02:25:25
	So, so facilities maintenance.	02:25:29
	There is a contract services.	02:25:32
	Budget. Umm.	02:25:34
	And miscellaneous contract services. So that was proposed to be reduced by $54,000.	02:25:36
	We're eliminating one part time custodian position, but.	02:25:42
	We really have been trying to look for win, win opportunities and so we need.	02:25:46
	We had a vacant full-time custodian position.	02:25:50
	And so we're going to give the opportunity for a part time person to move into a full time position.	02:25:54
	And then eliminate the part time position behind them.	02:26:00
	So again, just trying, we're trying to make sure we aren't balancing the budget on the back of.	02:26:03
	Employees either so.	02:26:08
	Trying to make sure we're doing what we can in those ways and ensuring that we have the service level we need.	02:26:11
	So the 12,500 was a reduction in.	02:26:19
	Funding that had been put in for Thayer Lane, which that project is complete.	02:26:23
	And then $6000 with small equipment, just very miscellaneous small equipment.	02:26:26
	For recreation.	02:26:33
	This one is probably one that would be of more interest to members of the community.	02:26:35
	There's some difficult.	02:26:40
	Recommendations in here?	02:26:42
	But I think we did our best to balance where we're still providing services. It might just be a little bit.	02:26:44
	Less umm.	02:26:50
	Of those.	02:26:52
	And so.	02:26:53
	The museum amount is reduced, but it's reduced because last year more money was put in to get them ready to open.	02:26:54
	So it's basically pulling out the.	02:27:03
	That additional funding that they had gotten to get ready to open since they're open now.	02:27:06
	So it shows up as a reduction, but it's really just sort of like putting them back to the normal funding level.	02:27:11
	Since the grand opening was last year and we're not doing another grand opening.	02:27:16
	We had rented a portable restroom that did not work out at the actually this isn't the museum one.	02:27:22
	I take that back, this is actually.	02:27:29
	Affordable The portable restroom The extra portable restroom that we had rented for the lifeguard program.	02:27:30
	And, umm.	02:27:36
	We're not going to rent that restroom. We're just going to. There's bathrooms at the beach. We just rented them an additional	02:27:38
	portable.	02:27:41
	So that would be removed with that $17,500?	02:27:45
	Probably 1 of the maybe higher visibility ones is the lifeguard program.	02:27:51
	My understanding and some people may have the history more than I do on this, but is that it used to?	02:27:56
	The lifeguard program used to end.	02:28:02
	After Labor Day with the kids going back to school.	02:28:03
	But.	02:28:06
	It's extended.	02:28:07
	Into October in recent years.	02:28:09
	And So what this proposes is pulling it back to Labor Day.	02:28:12
	Which would save about $15,000.	02:28:16
	By having it.	02:28:18
	And on.	02:28:20
	After Labor Day.	02:28:22
	We talked about the credit card processing fees, so that's another $11,000 in recreation. They do a lot of credit card	02:28:24
	transactions.	02:28:28
	The $6500 for Moving in the Park events.	02:28:32
	Is uh.	02:28:36
	Another visible high visibility 1.	02:28:37
	We're proposing.	02:28:39
	Dropping, we had increased to five movie events, movie in the park events and we proposed.	02:28:42
	Dropping it back to three movie in the park events.	02:28:48
	And so that would be a savings about of about $6500.	02:28:52
	The junior lifeguard participant increase of $25.	02:28:56
	So it doesn't really change.	02:29:00
	The activity it's just a.	02:29:03
	Fee increase.	02:29:06
	Would generate 5400.	02:29:07
	Dollars.	02:29:09
	The Boys and Girls Club gym rental.	02:29:11
	Yeah, so we had done the contract with Boys and Girls Club to rent the.	02:29:15
	Provide.	02:29:20
	Evening basketball and then eventually we had added in a day of pickleball to during the cold weather.	02:29:21
	That contract is more than $3500.	02:29:28
	And so.	02:29:31
	I think it's $15,000.	02:29:33
	It's around that, yeah.	02:29:37
	And, umm.	02:29:38
	And so but why it shows $3500 is because?	02:29:39
	By eliminating it.	02:29:44
	In the budget, what we also did was repurpose.	02:29:46
	The $12,000.	02:29:49
	Into covering the cost of the senior exercise program.	02:29:52
	So this is just the difference.	02:29:57
	So adding.	02:30:01
	I just say that to say that.	02:30:03
	So it's really a $15,000 reduction, but it shows up on this list is 3500.	02:30:06
	Dollars, which is the difference?	02:30:13
	And partially, if you recall.	02:30:16
	It's under the Boys and Girls Club Gym is under construction right now.	02:30:20
	And then?	02:30:24
	We had a meeting recently where.	02:30:26
	There was some comments about the Jim.	02:30:30
	Floor and if the gym floor wasn't?	02:30:32
	Remodeled whether we'd continue to do the rental or not so.	02:30:37
	We propose reducing.	02:30:41
	In this budget.	02:30:46
	But that's a.	02:30:47
	That's our recommendation.	02:30:49
	Then the training and travel reduction for recreation, $3000.	02:30:53
	Lifeguard training and travel $2500.	02:30:59
	And then just leases and contracts?	02:31:02
	Training and travel.	02:31:05
	So those.	02:31:08
	Where the difficult slides?	02:31:10
	Difficult reductions department by department.	02:31:13
	Again, I want to acknowledge.	02:31:16
	That every department really looked.	02:31:18
	Closely and made.	02:31:20
	Tough decisions.	02:31:21
	I I can imagine for a recreation person to actually propose.	02:31:23
	You know, umm.	02:31:28
	Reducing some of these programs, it was, it's not what they want to do so.	02:31:31
	So, uh.	02:31:36
	I'm using them as an example, but for all the departments. I know that these were very difficult decisions, but.	02:31:37
	It got us to a point.	02:31:43
	Of being able to be balanced for for.	02:31:45
	For the coming year.	02:31:47
	And so then the last couple slides.	02:31:49
	Kind of tag on to Fred's presentation nightly nicely.	02:31:53
	Because the good news is.	02:31:59
	With a very tight budget.	02:32:01
	We want to make sure we're still doing capital improvement.	02:32:05
	Projects we want to make sure we're still.	02:32:08
	Maintaining what we have.	02:32:11
	Repairing, remodeling, Resurfacing.	02:32:13
	And one thing that I appreciate the Public Works Department and our facilities, housing and Facilities Department did.	02:32:16
	This year was they really looked at projects that can be done.	02:32:23
	Without impacting the general fund.	02:32:27
	And it turns out that we'd have our hands full just with these.	02:32:29
	And to go back to Fred's presentation, that last slide that showed all the projects, the long list of projects that they're going	02:32:32
	to be working on.	02:32:36
	We're able to do those projects with very minimal impact to the general fund.	02:32:40
	And so.	02:32:46
	You can see on this slide out of almost $4.8 million in projects, which is a lot of projects, it's actually.	02:32:48
	More projects than we've gotten done in.	02:32:54
	A lot of prior years, I think maybe the last two years might be the first years we've really gotten that level of projects done.	02:32:57
	So it's still a lot of projects.	02:33:04
	With only a couple of those showing general fund impacts on that.	02:33:06
	On that chart.	02:33:10
	And so these are the projects planned for next year. It's we have some parking lot.	02:33:11
	Resurfacing that we're looking to do.	02:33:17
	We kind of just keep.	02:33:20
	Trying to.	02:33:22
	Get a couple parking lots each year. The beach parking lots this year. Last year it was the library.	02:33:23
	And Bubbling Springs parking lot.	02:33:29
	So we continue that.	02:33:31
	We have a Pearson Rd. storm drain project and the Anacapa storm drain project.	02:33:33
	We're trying to prioritize making sure.	02:33:39
	We're still addressing storm drain issues, especially in light of that recent.	02:33:41
	Historic storm that we had had. We just want to make sure we keep working on those.	02:33:46
	Yeah.	02:33:52
	Is a sidewalk maintenance? Is that a part of one of these budget lines or is it separate?	02:33:54
	I don't.	02:34:03
	I'm trying to look real quick and see if.	02:34:04
	I see any projects that would be and I don't.	02:34:06
	It would be separate if we were just doing stand alone sidewalk.	02:34:09
	Maintenance, I don't think we have it planned.	02:34:13
	No plan. No plan projects. Large projects for sidewalks if there's a small project.	02:34:17
	That's a good point.	02:34:23
	So, you know, so we still have our.	02:34:24
	Our public works department will still be able to address, you know.	02:34:27
	Trip and fall hazards and those types of things as they arise, we just don't have any projects to.	02:34:30
	Really. Install or tear out and replace?	02:34:36
	Huge portions of sidewalks.	02:34:39
	So these are specifically capital improvement.	02:34:42
	Large scale projects.	02:34:45
	So then after.	02:34:48
	The storm drains we have.	02:34:50
	Some Rd. repairs grind and overlays Patterson Rd. Winnie me Bay and St. Surfside Village.	02:34:52
	We still are including some funding, although we I did recommend reducing. We had said we'd put 50,000.	02:34:58
	Aside for speed cushions.	02:35:04
	As long I think literally the language we used when we created that speed cushion policy was as long as the budget could afford	02:35:06
	it.	02:35:09
	And so this year, we're proposing dropping that to $25,000.	02:35:13
	Which I think over the last couple years that would.	02:35:18
	Suffice because we actually haven't had a huge demand for more speed cushions.	02:35:21
	So that's included in the budget.	02:35:26
	Citywide, uh.	02:35:28
	Rapid rectangular, rectangular flashing beacons. Those are those the flashing crosswalk lights.	02:35:29
	We're working on a, I think we got a grant from SKAG to be able to provide those. So that's grant funded that $70,000.	02:35:36
	And then the housing successor agency has a housing fund.	02:35:44
	Our housing successor agency funded project of the 323 C St. remodel project. We have 147,000 in the budget for that.	02:35:49
	Marvista is another housing project so it doesn't impact the general fund with 170,000 in Mar Vista Repairs.	02:35:57
	Our projects.	02:36:05
	And then we have several water main replacements which are charged to the water fund and.	02:36:07
	And, and the water fund has a lot of projects coming up with that water master plan.	02:36:11
	Being complete, so that'll be something considered in that.	02:36:16
	Utility rate increase.	02:36:19
	And the wastewater?	02:36:21
	Operating fund has a sewer lining project, so.	02:36:22
	We definitely have.	02:36:25
	Work to keep us busy. On top of all this, the note on the top notes that the projects that haven't been completed in prior years	02:36:26
	still roll over so.	02:36:30
	We have a long list, it's not just.	02:36:35
	It's not just a year of.	02:36:38
	You know, waiting and seeing we're going to be.	02:36:40
	Focusing on these projects, especially the ones that have their own funding sources, and getting those done.	02:36:43
	Mayor Pro Tem, Yeah, I have.	02:36:49
	Couple questions.	02:36:51
	So we have surplus property. Have we had any inquiries on any of that?	02:36:54
	We are in conversation that we are going to.	02:36:59
	Bring forward to the Council if they decide to move forward on one one of the properties.	02:37:03
	So, but we haven't had conversation on.	02:37:08
	The many others at this point.	02:37:10
	Yeah, yet.	02:37:12
	So I did see on the rec side.	02:37:14
	We were going to lose 2 movie at the beaches or movie at Bubbling Spring.	02:37:17
	If say reach or VFW decide like decided.	02:37:23
	They can take that on.	02:37:28
	For those two missing.	02:37:29
	Events with that the city.	02:37:31
	Consider that.	02:37:33
	Yeah, I think.	02:37:34
	If.	02:37:36
	Reach, for example, came forward and said they wanted to, you know.	02:37:37
	Help cover the cost of one we could always come back to council and.	02:37:40
	Propose adding that.	02:37:45
	I think one conversation we had was that each year there's sort of been one and it's always been like.	02:37:46
	There's one that like the rain hits and everything else and it's like kind of a dud.	02:37:52
	So we had said.	02:37:56
	Planning for three and sort of planning when the in that period where the weather is better, we're not really losing.	02:37:58
	Much, but it is something.	02:38:04
	So if one of those came forward, we could always we could look at that.	02:38:06
	And out of curiosity, do we have any employees that actually take cars home?	02:38:10
	So the city does have some take home vehicles. That's something we've reduced.	02:38:16
	It's something we have addressed and reduced a couple, but we still have.	02:38:22
	Some take home vehicles.	02:38:26
	Like just for our City Council knowledge, can we get a number?	02:38:28
	The reason why?	02:38:34
	Yeah, Yeah. We can provide that.	02:38:36
	OK. Thank you.	02:38:37
	Councilmember Hernandez.	02:38:41
	So I think the council received an e-mail recently from.	02:38:44
	Constituent asking about.	02:38:49
	Possible bike lane along Channel Islands Blvd. I don't know if you saw that.	02:38:52
	So, you know, I anticipate that'll be.	02:38:57
	That could be one as an example of the kind of requests we might field in the next.	02:39:00
	Year.	02:39:05
	Into the future.	02:39:06
	What are we going to do with those kinds of requests considering our?	02:39:08
	Budget situation.	02:39:12
	Yeah. And so I know that request came in today.	02:39:13
	And I think they said they've been requesting it for a decade, I think is what they said. Yeah, I don't know.	02:39:16
	Yeah, so it was the first I had heard of it, but.	02:39:22
	Unfortunately, I think.	02:39:25
	That request a decade ago would have.	02:39:28
	Would have looked a lot different than it does now.	02:39:31
	I think.	02:39:35
	We did receive it today. We haven't replied yet. We'll take a look at what they're requesting, but.	02:39:36
	I think the answer to a lot of people right now is we're going to prioritize everything.	02:39:41
	And uh.	02:39:46
	I think people could see today is there's difficult decisions and one there's.	02:39:47
	They're like I said, we've already made all the easy decisions and now we're down to the really hard ones.	02:39:52
	So when we get requests in, we'll take a look at them if there's something that can be done easily and and.	02:39:58
	You know, using existing resources and everything, we're going to try to respond as best as we can, but.	02:40:04
	At the end of the day, if somebody's asking for a new $1,000,000 project, it's going to have to compete against.	02:40:09
	Every other project, so we can assume you see, you see those emails that come in, right. And so we can assume that you're going to	02:40:14
	follow up on those. OK, great. Can I comment on that? Sure.	02:40:19
	OK, so.	02:40:26
	As a avid mountain biker.	02:40:27
	And I don't ride Rd. bikes anymore because of distracted drivers.	02:40:29
	I actually went down the road.	02:40:34
	And I drove, I drove my bike back and.	02:40:37
	So what you on the southbound of Ventura Rd. there is no bike lane.	02:40:40
	It's because.	02:40:46
	We we have three lanes going out southbound and then we have two lanes coming northbound.	02:40:47
	And we have a huge sidewalk.	02:40:54
	So I could see the concern.	02:40:56
	I know that.	02:40:58
	Separate from this, but.	02:40:59
	I actually did.	02:41:01
	Do Rd. that and it there is there is a hazard.	02:41:04
	We'll take a look at it. We also, I think maybe a month or two ago we had a request from somebody.	02:41:08
	But theirs has a different.	02:41:14
	Complication as they wanted bike lanes on.	02:41:16
	The southbound side.	02:41:19
	Channel Islands, I think it is.	02:41:22
	That was Ricardo Holden.	02:41:24
	Might be.	02:41:26
	And the challenge there is.	02:41:27
	We have the guardrails.	02:41:29
	And so so they had asked.	02:41:31
	You know, if the guardrails ever come out, can we put a bike lane so.	02:41:34
	So we'll try to track those and we'll try to take a look at it and also like.	02:41:36
	Say what might be feasible, what might not be.	02:41:42
	But a lot of those, anything that's really significant cost.	02:41:45
	It's probably going to be.	02:41:48
	Sort of on the.	02:41:50
	You know the future list.	02:41:52
	For lack of a better word.	02:41:53
	Since we're talking.	02:41:55
	Bike lanes I did respond to.	02:41:56
	To the person that emailed us in the.	02:41:59
	Let me know if we're brown acting.	02:42:03
	I know we're getting close, but.	02:42:06
	In terms of a budget.	02:42:07
	In terms of.	02:42:09
	Having a bike lane for the sake of having a bike lane and not.	02:42:11
	Really looking at the safety because it's crazy if you're going to ride a bike down.	02:42:16
	Channel Islands Blvd. With that aluminum guardrail.	02:42:23
	I mean, you see how many times that thing has been ran into.	02:42:27
	You know, it just frightens me.	02:42:31
	And so.	02:42:33
	Maybe there's grant materials out there, but.	02:42:34
	Maybe we could research to it because that corridor, you know, if you go down Rincon.	02:42:37
	The bike lane is is protected from the freeway.	02:42:43
	And but that's way beyond our.	02:42:46
	Yeah, budgetary test rates.	02:42:49
	So.	02:42:54
	So the last note on this slide is that the two projects that we want to we, we put on the list because we think they're important,	02:42:55
	but they don't currently have funding. So we're.	02:43:00
	Looking for grant funding for them.	02:43:05
	Are a Miranda Park.	02:43:07
	Playground improvements and Winnemi Rd. reconstruction.	02:43:09
	Project the Wayne ME Rd. reconstruction project.	02:43:14
	Is probably about $5,000,000 all in, so that's a significant.	02:43:17
	Cost. I think that's one that we all hear about.	02:43:22
	Pretty consistently if you know everybody.	02:43:25
	Talks about Winimi Road and.	02:43:28
	Making sure that that's paved and.	02:43:30
	And everything frequently.	02:43:33
	And so.	02:43:35
	We have those on our list of future.	02:43:36
	Are ones that we would.	02:43:39
	Recommend putting on as placeholders while we apply for some grant funding.	02:43:40
	Our public works director, Mr. Camarillo, mentioned that.	02:43:45
	Public works.	02:43:48
	Great job really getting everybody.	02:43:49
	A lot of partners together on a grant opportunity for Winemi Rd. reconstruction including.	02:43:54
	With thanks to the port for.	02:44:00
	Signing on and.	02:44:03
	Really advocating for it and.	02:44:04
	The Little League and some other partners. So that project is one that we really want to do. But that $5,000,000 price tag, 5	02:44:06
	million or more price tag is significant. So we're looking for the grant funding to do it.	02:44:12
	And so that's 2526. And so 2627 has fewer projects and we mentioned the staff report that in 2627.	02:44:21
	We really put a focus on not impacting the general fund since there was already going to project it to be a bit of a deficit in	02:44:29
	the general fund.	02:44:33
	So we looked for gas tax related projects, Roads Rd. resurfacing type projects.	02:44:37
	Which are the bulk?	02:44:42
	And then the Oxnard lift station reconfiguration.	02:44:44
	Which would be funded by wastewater and solid waste.	02:44:47
	And then?	02:44:51
	One idea or one thing we were looking at doing was trying to apply for Miranda Park Playground grant funding.	02:44:52
	And once that's complete, also trying to do the same for bulk or park and so trying to do those over the next couple years. I have	02:44:58
	a question regarding the playground. Sure, priority.	02:45:03
	What was the reason for putting random park before bulker?	02:45:08
	The age of the Miranda I mean both parks need maintenance and so.	02:45:13
	We. We.	02:45:20
	We sort of acknowledge that.	02:45:21
	But the.	02:45:23
	Age and condition of the Miranda playground. There's some materials that are close to.	02:45:25
	Breaking or aging out that we cannot replace anymore.	02:45:31
	Once playgrounds get to a certain age, you can't.	02:45:36
	Get replacement parts.	02:45:38
	So that one.	02:45:40
	For that reason.	02:45:42
	Became the priority that we think that there's going to be some some items.	02:45:43
	Braking on it soon that we.	02:45:47
	We won't be able to replace.	02:45:49
	OK, yeah, I just wanted to make sure because bulker gets no love and I would love to see.	02:45:50
	Yeah, umm.	02:45:55
	That area get something before we started the budget process. Bulker Park was an area I was I had some ideas for that I wanted to	02:45:55
	recommend.	02:46:00
	But with the with the.	02:46:04
	The budget process playing out.	02:46:06
	Trying to identify.	02:46:08
	Which of the two need?	02:46:11
	Repairs first.	02:46:14
	But trying to make sure that we keep them both on the list so we focus on both of them.	02:46:15
	Councilmember.	02:46:19
	So our grants.	02:46:20
	Does anyone pay attention because we hear about grants? I know the port is an expert at grants.	02:46:22
	And sometimes they said it's not your tax dollars, but grants are coming from the federal government, generally speaking, and they	02:46:28
	are, I guess, tax dollars.	02:46:33
	But umm.	02:46:38
	How are they?	02:46:39
	Equitably distributed.	02:46:40
	Is it? Does it go to the person that's the?	02:46:43
	Best writing skills or?	02:46:45
	Do they get distributed on a need?	02:46:47
	Because.	02:46:51
	Clearly, you know, our roads really need to have the highest. I mean we.	02:46:52
	Want the highest quality roads considering the traffic that we host?	02:46:58
	So how, how, how do you?	02:47:02
	How do you get in line for these grants? And they're everywhere. Yeah, there's a lot of factors and.	02:47:04
	I think that's why on when Amy Rd. is our example if we're trying to highlight the importance that we need be Rd. plays to.	02:47:10
	Our residents.	02:47:18
	To umm.	02:47:19
	Groups like the Little League, who you know who use it, but also.	02:47:21
	That's where really the idea with partnering with the port on some grant opportunities and reminding people that.	02:47:25
	Wineemi Rd. isn't.	02:47:32
	Just important for our residents, but it's also important for.	02:47:33
	Commerce across the country, you know that it's if it's coming in through the port, it's got to get out.	02:47:37
	To everybody else. So a lot of that comes out through Wineheme Rd.	02:47:43
	So we're trying to.	02:47:47
	We're really part of what we're trying to do is like make these Grant.	02:47:48
	Applications more attractive with the hope that we get some of those grants that we haven't gotten in the past.	02:47:53
	And.	02:48:00
	With the port like in particular, there's a lot of.	02:48:01
	You know, cities have to compete against cities for grants and there's thousands of cities.	02:48:04
	And so ports.	02:48:08
	There aren't as many ports, there's not as much competition.	02:48:10
	But what we're hoping we can do is.	02:48:13
	On some of is kind of partner together to sort of open some of those doors like perhaps where.	02:48:15
	The city can, actually.	02:48:21
	Be included in some of those grant applications for ports where there's less competition than there is competing against 1000	02:48:23
	other cities so.	02:48:27
	So we're trying to.	02:48:31
	Kind of find all those things and I think.	02:48:33
	This exercise with that public Works went through to really put together a good grant application with letters of support from all	02:48:35
	these agencies.	02:48:38
	Is like really a big step in trying to?	02:48:42
	To really do that.	02:48:45
	Finally and see if it pays off.	02:48:46
	So, so we're we're working on that rather than just, you know, submitting A1 page application and.	02:48:49
	Hoping we get it. We're really putting some effort into it, so.	02:48:56
	Councilmember Perez.	02:48:59
	What happened to the Community Benefit Fund money that we had allocated for grant writing?	02:49:00
	And that's still there and that's a possibility that.	02:49:05
	When we have our joint committee meeting and I think we have one later this month that.	02:49:10
	You know, at some point we'll have to figure out what grant we're applying for.	02:49:14
	So.	02:49:18
	I have started that conversation.	02:49:19
	At a staff level, but we'll have to have that and get.	02:49:22
	See if we can get.	02:49:25
	All of the council and the board in agreement.	02:49:27
	And what project can be applied for?	02:49:31
	OK, so.	02:49:37
	With that, we're happy to answer any questions and we do have all of our.	02:49:40
	Department directors here as well, if there's any specific questions about any department related reductions, but.	02:49:45
	At the end of the day.	02:49:52
	It was a difficult budget process.	02:49:54
	I do think and I think everybody for really finding reductions that.	02:49:56
	We're really focused on trying not to.	02:50:01
	Impact services to the community and I think we've done.	02:50:03
	When you look at having to find $2,000,000 in reductions, we've.	02:50:08
	I think of.	02:50:11
	A really good job at that.	02:50:13
	But inevitably there's some impact. So we know some of these are.	02:50:15
	Difficult.	02:50:19
	With that.	02:50:20
	We.	02:50:22
	Can answer any questions.	02:50:24
	Our feedback and then we're asking for a direction to move forward.	02:50:26
	And take forward to our budget adoption scheduled in two weeks.	02:50:30
	Great. Thank you. I just want to remind everyone we're still in the public hearing. So we'll take questions at this time, just	02:50:35
	questions. We'll come back later for comments and discussion.	02:50:39
	That one.	02:50:43
	Question, Councilmember, how you doing, Ashley, you've been standing there for 45 minutes.	02:50:46
	You're good.	02:50:51
	Good. Thank you for your time and.	02:50:53
	Bring on the question. I was just like to.	02:50:55
	Hear about your experience.	02:51:00
	And in all this process, because it is a eye opening experience.	02:51:03
	With this process. So can we just do this really quick?	02:51:07
	Questions about the staff report?	02:51:12
	Then we'll go and then we'll do that in discussion, if you don't mind, because.	02:51:15
	We still have to hear from public comments as it relates.	02:51:18
	Because you're asking her about her personal experience.	02:51:21
	Do you have any questions regarding the report, the staff report?	02:51:23
	Experience with the budget?	02:51:28
	OK, so.	02:51:29
	Let, we're going to. We'll come back to that.	02:51:31
	Do we have any?	02:51:34
	You have question, Mayor Pro Tem.	02:51:35
	So the estimated unassigned fund balance.	02:51:38
	For the for the general public.	02:51:42
	What what? What's our number that we?	02:51:45
	Try to keep that at.	02:51:47
	Do we have?	02:51:49
	So there's.	02:51:52
	I was trying to go to that slide.	02:51:54
	So we have a policy that requires that we have a emergency reserve.	02:51:56
	Equal to six months operations.	02:52:02
	We do have that emergency reserve.	02:52:04
	But then.	02:52:07
	So we have a six month sort of emergency fund.	02:52:09
	And then?	02:52:12
	We have essentially the unassigned fund balance is the remaining money in the general fund.	02:52:13
	Besides that, six months that can be used without.	02:52:19
	To touch the emergency reserve we have to come back to the council, we have to essentially declare an emergency.	02:52:23
	We have to declare an emergency to actually be able to spend it.	02:52:30
	And so the unassigned fund balance is the money that.	02:52:33
	Is available that we could utilize.	02:52:36
	That, uh.	02:52:39
	That outside of an emergency situation essentially. So do you want to add anything to that?	02:52:41
	Sure. The reserve has four specific buckets to it. So there's the economic reserve which is recommended at six to eight months.	02:52:47
	We're fully funded at the six month minimum right now.	02:52:52
	There's the stability reserve, which is 10% of our annual operating expenses. So because both of those two are specifically tied	02:52:58
	to operating expenses, that amount changes every single year as we adopt the budget and change how much we're spending every year.	02:53:05
	So those are two. The third would be 50% of our risk liability.	02:53:12
	So we save 50% of the annual cost of our insurances throughout the city to make sure if that price goes up if an accident occurs,	02:53:17
	we can afford a spike in our insurance that wasn't planned.	02:53:23
	And then the last one is the newly created capital improvement reserve.	02:53:29
	Which is specifically to be spent down.	02:53:33
	For prod general funded projects and assets which we are already using with this budget.	02:53:35
	Got it. Thank you.	02:53:41
	Any other questions?	02:53:43
	Will now open the public hearing for public comments. The time is now 839.	02:53:46
	Madam Clerk, are there any public comments regarding this item?	02:53:53
	Yes, we have a public comment from Luis Mendez.	02:53:57
	Thank you guys.	02:54:08
	I just had a couple of quick comments on this. Thank you, James for the presentation and the department heads for doing what you	02:54:09
	did.	02:54:12
	For what the numbers look like.	02:54:15
	You seem really calm in presenting everything.	02:54:18
	But that's what concerns me than two months ago, right? What I I did hear a lot like you said about saving, saving, savings.	02:54:21
	Savings isn't really actually earning anything though. It's not doing anything or moving the city forward in that aspect.	02:54:29
	And you use the word uncertainly a lot, which I guess a lot of people are.	02:54:35
	And what I don't hear is how the city, or the governing body anyway, is doing anything to create certainty.	02:54:38
	Or to stabilize it.	02:54:45
	You know, it looks like everything's done reactionary, you know, as to what their circumstances are.	02:54:47
	And I lived here for 440 years.	02:54:52
	And we can blame inflation right now for this budget problem.	02:54:54
	Four years ago it was COVID.	02:54:58
	Prior to that, it's just the city's not being run.	02:55:00
	Like a business, a successful business because to see a $400.00 cell phone bill.	02:55:03
	Being cut, it's embarrassing, it's sad.	02:55:07
	You know, it's like what are we doing with the money and why isn't the city? Are you guys looking at ways to increase revenue and	02:55:10
	run the city like a successful business?	02:55:14
	You know I.	02:55:18
	I haven't. I know this is a savings part, but in the future, you know, are you guys putting sales tax increases on the table?	02:55:19
	To create revenue.	02:55:25
	You know, are you going to increase?	02:55:26
	Utility rates.	02:55:28
	I mean, those things are hard decisions that have to be done whether you're popular or not, popular or not, the decisions to be	02:55:29
	made or you know, when it comes to negotiating contracts with that are coming up for the city with some of the employees.	02:55:36
	You guys got to look at all that and make the hard decisions.	02:55:43
	Sometimes say no.	02:55:45
	And sometimes cast the unpopular vote.	02:55:47
	Even if the community doesn't agree with it, that's what you guys were elected for.	02:55:49
	Not to be popular in light.	02:55:53
	But to put the city in the financial stable position?	02:55:54
	That's all I want to say. Thank you.	02:55:57
	Like to comment on that.	02:55:59
	Thank you.	02:56:00
	Oh, you want to comment to?	02:56:03
	Yeah, we're in discussion.	02:56:07
	No, we're we're in public comment.	02:56:09
	If I could provide some information.	02:56:13
	I just want to say.	02:56:16
	I I would suggest watching the last 45 minute presentation from 2 weeks ago.	02:56:20
	We talked this. This was the detailed list of reductions.	02:56:28
	That meeting was the structural.	02:56:33
	Budget challenges we face and how we need to make adjustments to get structurally.	02:56:35
	Balanced and we talked about a lot. I won't go through all of it, but we talked about sort of the spending increase.	02:56:40
	From 2021 to 2023.	02:56:47
	How that reflected in additional hiring and more staff people and how we need to.	02:56:50
	And have been working.	02:56:56
	To your point, not waiting, but proactively adjusting down each year over the last couple years back to almost.	02:56:58
	Pre cannabis levels.	02:57:04
	So, so there's a lot more to it and then additional revenue proposals and.	02:57:06
	Conversations about.	02:57:12
	Utility rate increases and those types of things so.	02:57:13
	Definitely.	02:57:16
	Understand the sentiment.	02:57:17
	Today's.	02:57:19
	Presentation is not intended to be the.	02:57:20
	The big picture, it was really the detail of how we're getting by this year.	02:57:24
	Which supplemented that last presentation. That was the big picture.	02:57:28
	Thank you.	02:57:34
	And then we have two written comments, The first one.	02:57:35
	Request for independent audit of city employee compensation amid budget challenges.	02:57:38
	I'm writing as a concerned resident regarding the city's current budgetary challenges and the compensation packages of several	02:57:44
	very highly paid city employees.	02:57:49
	Upon reviewing public salary data, I was alarmed to find that some of our cities top earners.	02:57:54
	Receive total compensation packages ranging from approximately 250,000 to over 424,000 annually.	02:58:00
	For instance, in 2023, a Police Department employee.	02:58:08
	Earned a total compensation exceeding 424,000.	02:58:12
	These figures are particularly concerning given that Port Wine Amy's median resident household income.	02:58:16
	Is approximately 76,655.	02:58:21
	Moreover, many of these highly compensated employees do not reside within our city.	02:58:26
	Raising questions about the equitable distribution of our hard earned local tax dollars.	02:58:31
	The recently presented draft budget for fiscal years 2025 through 26 and 2026 through 27.	02:58:35
	Highlights the city's efforts to address economic uncertainties.	02:58:42
	By proposing reductions across departments, freezing vacant positions and delaying certain projects.	02:58:46
	While these measures are commendable, it is crucial to ensure that all aspects of the budget are scrutinized.	02:58:52
	For sustainability and fairness.	02:58:57
	This is a call for greater transparency, equity and responsible fiscal management.	02:58:59
	It is imperative that we assess whether such compensation practices align with the city's financial realities and priorities.	02:59:04
	A lack of transparency and perceived inequities and compensation may contribute to a culture where some city employees feel	02:59:12
	insulated from accountability, potentially leading to less respectful interactions with residents.	02:59:18
	Some of which I have witnessed.	02:59:25
	Additionally, I am concerned about the appearance of potential conflicts of interest. It has come to public attention.	02:59:27
	That several of the highest paid city employees have close associations with the current council member.	02:59:33
	Given that this Council member served in a leadership role during the time of these employees promotions, it is essential to	02:59:38
	ensure that all compensation decisions are made impartial.	02:59:42
	And partially, transparently and in the best interest of the community.	02:59:47
	Therefore, I respectfully urge the City Council to Commission a comprehensive, independent audit of all city compensation	02:59:51
	packages.	02:59:54
	This audit should assess the sustainability and fairness of current compensation practices, explore adjustments that align with	02:59:58
	the city's size, needs, and budgetary constraints.	03:00:03
	Our community deserves leadership that prioritizes the well-being of all residents and ensures that public funds are allocated in	03:00:08
	a manner that promotes equity, sustainability and are in the best interest of the community.	03:00:14
	Thank you for your time, Jessica Baca.	03:00:20
	Dear Honourable Members of the Port Wyoming City Council.	03:00:25
	I'm writing as a concerned resident to formally request the City Council authorize an independent audit of all city employee	03:00:28
	compensation packages.	03:00:32
	This request is grounded in concerns regarding fiscal responsibility, transparency and adherence to principles.	03:00:36
	Of equitable governance, particularly in light of the city's current budgetary constraints.	03:00:42
	And ongoing community fundraising efforts.	03:00:47
	Publicly available salary records, including those published via Transparent California.	03:00:50
	Indicate that certain city employees receive compensation packages that appear disproportionate relative to the median household	03:00:55
	income.	03:00:58
	Of Port Whitney, ME residents.	03:01:01
	Such disparities weren't a thorough review to ensure alignment with the city's financial capacity and applicable such.	03:01:03
	Statutory guidelines.	03:01:10
	The recent community LED fundraising effort to secure $15,000 for a police K9 unit.	03:01:12
	An initiative aimed at addressing urgent public safety concerns.	03:01:18
	Such as a fentanyl crisis exemplifies the city's current financial limitations.	03:01:21
	Reliance on private donations to fund a central law enforcement resources.	03:01:26
	Raises significant questions about budgetary priorities and the sustainable allocation of public funds.	03:01:30
	Particularly when juxtaposed with high compensation levels paid to certain city employees.	03:01:37
	Moreover, there are concerns regarding the integrity of internal promotion processes, including potential conflicts of interest.	03:01:43
	Involving senior staff appointments.	03:01:50
	An independent audit would provide an impartial evaluations of these matters.	03:01:52
	Reinforcing public confidence in the city's governance.	03:01:56
	Therefore, I respectfully urge the Council to Commission a comprehensive, independent audit of all city employee compensation.	03:02:00
	And promotion practices.	03:02:06
	Such a review should assess compliance with applicable laws, fiscal prudence, equity standards and best practices in public sector	03:02:08
	governance.	03:02:12
	This measure is essential to ensuring that limited municipal resources are managed responsibly and transparently.	03:02:16
	In alignment with the priorities and needs of the Port Wineemi community.	03:02:22
	Thank you for your attention to this critical matter. I look forward to the Council's consideration and appropriate action.	03:02:26
	Sincerely, Abraham Baca.	03:02:31
	And that concludes public comment.	03:02:33
	Thank you public. Do you mind if I provide some information?	03:02:36
	I just wanted to provide some information to the speakers but also to the public.	03:02:41
	And.	03:02:47
	Take a moment to confirm that salary information is available.	03:02:48
	In two locations for the public. First on our city website.	03:02:53
	Anyone can navigate to our.	03:02:58
	Human Resources and risk Management management page by clicking on departments and then Administration and Community services and	03:03:00
	then HR and risk management and then Compensation and memorandums of understandings.	03:03:06
	The link on that page.	03:03:13
	To see all salary schedules and.	03:03:15
	Memorandums of agreements with SEIU and POA.	03:03:18
	So the city has those publicly available.	03:03:21
	So the public can see those.	03:03:23
	24 hours a day.	03:03:26
	And it's available and transparent.	03:03:29
	The city also provides payroll information to Transparent California each year.	03:03:31
	That's available also 24/7. Anybody can at any can at any point go on to Transparent California and see.	03:03:36
	Total pay, including all benefits for any employee on that page.	03:03:43
	Those are publicly available.	03:03:48
	I do want to just add that the other great thing about Transparent California is you can actually look at other cities.	03:03:51
	And compare Port Winnie me to other cities.	03:03:57
	I think there was a comment about comparing.	03:04:00
	The average salary of a city employee to a non city employee. But I think it's really important to.	03:04:03
	Look on Transparent California and compare.	03:04:10
	To the other cities around us and I think if people do that, they would see that poor Winnie me is actually.	03:04:13
	Not on the higher end of salaries.	03:04:18
	So it's not really giving the whole picture by just looking at the employees in a vacuum.	03:04:23
	And with Transparent California you can look at.	03:04:30
	Much more detail.	03:04:33
	Look at all neighboring cities.	03:04:34
	And look at and compare those.	03:04:36
	Salaries.	03:04:39
	Regarding some of the statements regarding some of the personnel matters over the last couple of weeks.	03:04:41
	We've had the same.	03:04:47
	Comments from our We've had comments from the same residents regarding personnel items and asking the council to take action.	03:04:48
	Regarding personnel?	03:04:55
	I want to take a second.	03:04:56
	Because I know not everybody understands this.	03:04:59
	So I want to help.	03:05:01
	Educate the public.	03:05:02
	And the speakers on.	03:05:05
	How personnel items are to be addressed in a city.	03:05:06
	The city of Portland, ME has what is known as a.	03:05:10
	Council manager form of government.	03:05:13
	Where the voters elect 5 council members, those council members hire one professional city manager who carries out.	03:05:15
	Day-to-day operations and personnel matters.	03:05:22
	One of the reasons for why the city manager is non political and ensures that personnel matters are handled.	03:05:26
	Fairly.	03:05:34
	Is to ensure that politics do not interfere with personnel matters.	03:05:35
	This is for the taxpayers benefit.	03:05:39
	If politics interfere with personnel matters, it means that the city faces liability and the taxpayer dollars.	03:05:41
	Go to lawsuits or claims instead of critical needs like the items we're discussing.	03:05:48
	Following that process ensures our taxpayer resources are used for things like streets, public safety and other public works.	03:05:54
	Not lawsuits.	03:06:00
	So for the benefit of our taxpayers.	03:06:02
	I will advise these residents and continue to advise all that personnel matters.	03:06:04
	And concerns with day-to-day operations should be referred to the city manager for follow up as needed.	03:06:10
	Not scheduled for a public meeting.	03:06:14
	That would lead to.	03:06:17
	Claims and lawsuits.	03:06:18
	And then finally.	03:06:20
	I just want to take a moment and thank our officers for their hard work and recognize their efforts.	03:06:22
	It's easy to say.	03:06:27
	Somebody's paid too much, but.	03:06:29
	I can honestly say that the positive comments and appreciation we get regarding our officers.	03:06:31
	Are the vast majority of the comments we do receive from our residents?	03:06:37
	So I want our officers to know that the community and and we appreciate them.	03:06:40
	Thank you.	03:06:46
	Great. Thank you for your comments.	03:06:47
	No other public comments.	03:06:50
	No. Great. Thank you. So we've received our public input and so the public input is now concluded. I will now close this hearing	03:06:52
	at 8:52.	03:06:59
	So we have before us a recommendation to receive the report on the draft budget for fiscal year.	03:07:05
	202526 and 2026 through 27.	03:07:10
	Provide feedback and general direction on the draft budget, take into consideration any public comments made and direct staff to	03:07:16
	incorporate any amendments and return for budget adoption on Monday.	03:07:23
	June the 2nd May I have a motion and a second move approval.	03:07:30
	Great. Thank you. Now invite discussion of the motion.	03:07:38
	And after the discussion is concluded, we'll move on to the vote Any.	03:07:41
	Discussion. Umm.	03:07:47
	Councilmember, did you have anything?	03:07:48
	Councilmember Gama, thank you. I really enjoy when we receive.	03:07:51
	Public comments on.	03:07:55
	Items on the agenda because then we could comment on those public comments.	03:07:56
	I think it's interesting that a husband and wife.	03:08:00
	Are providing us with basically the same comment.	03:08:04
	And I generally think it's a waste of our time if they're both saying the same thing.	03:08:06
	In terms of.	03:08:12
	Of Louis.	03:08:14
	Louie's comments I wish you was here because I wanted to speak directly to him.	03:08:16
	OK. And if not, let me just say this really quick.	03:08:19
	We should be calling out people's names. He provided a public comment on the budget. No, we can. Yeah. You can refer to the public	03:08:23
	comment, though. OK.	03:08:27
	So I just want to.	03:08:32
	Go down memory lane.	03:08:34
	And the Council.	03:08:36
	What's being told, what we wanted to hear?	03:08:38
	Prior to the arrival of a city manager, Vega.	03:08:40
	And I remember meeting with City Manager Vega prior to him coming here and specifically talking about the items.	03:08:43
	That were concerning me in regards to the budget.	03:08:49
	We were spending money on a destination playground and a skate park and looking at these big ticket items and like hey.	03:08:53
	I don't think we could afford this.	03:09:00
	And so when City Manager Vega.	03:09:02
	Before he even started, he was honing in our budget.	03:09:04
	And I remember first time I went out to lunch.	03:09:07
	Vegan lunch. Vegetarian lunch.	03:09:11
	We uh.	03:09:14
	We.	03:09:15
	We discussed the budget at length and.	03:09:16
	So.	03:09:20
	From the moment he hit the ground here and came on staff, he's been focused on the budget and I think we're seeing.	03:09:22
	The hard work over the last two years.	03:09:29
	And for example, I recall.	03:09:32
	James Vega.	03:09:36
	And city manager meetings was asked.	03:09:38
	Asking our prior city manager about aren't you worried about the cannabis?	03:09:40
	Revenues when they fall.	03:09:45
	And then when he got here.	03:09:46
	He brought it up like, hey, the revenues aren't and everyone like objected like what? No, no they're not and yes, they were. And	03:09:48
	then now we're down 40%.	03:09:53
	You know, and so.	03:09:58
	Our city manager brought a realistic.	03:10:00
	Approach to budgeting and I really appreciate it and the work started before he started working here.	03:10:03
	And then Ashley, I wanted to hear from you.	03:10:09
	I do.	03:10:12
	And I think I think you have a great leader in our city manager and I know this is your first time.	03:10:14
	In this position and I would just like to hear from you like.	03:10:21
	You know, what have you learned, what can we do differently and what's your perspective on moving forward when regards to our	03:10:25
	budget?	03:10:28
	That's a question.	03:10:32
	Thank you.	03:10:34
	I'm really thankful that if I can present data, that's finances job, right? We run analysis, we present data and reports that it	03:10:35
	doesn't fall upon deaf ears. So when he asked me these questions and I produced the state and we go over it together and prepare	03:10:41
	this and we sit down and say, OK.	03:10:46
	These conversations are going to be a little.	03:10:52
	Different from prior budgets where we're not necessarily reaching out to departments for asks, but instead asking them to in turn	03:10:54
	provide us a 5% reduction upfront. That's how we started our budget kick off this time. And you know, as long as I can provide	03:11:00
	data to him, he can read through it.	03:11:06
	Come up with the overall message.	03:11:12
	Share that with the team. We are a team in this process.	03:11:14
	It's been a lot of hard work, a lot of hours, but.	03:11:17
	Not only did he.	03:11:20
	Feel this message needed to be said.	03:11:22
	But department heads immediately understood.	03:11:25
	Worked really hard to produce the 5% reductions with very realistic data. That's what's important to me in finance is.	03:11:29
	You're not just giving us 5% reductions that aren't feasible.	03:11:36
	That are maybe easy for you to cut.	03:11:39
	In, for an example, a project you don't want to do and you're just saying let's cut that one. Instead. It's being realistic about	03:11:42
	what the community needs, what their department needs are, because all these department heads are not going to have to live with	03:11:46
	this budget.	03:11:51
	And they're going to have to work with it throughout the fiscal year to make sure they can get everything done that they need to.	03:11:55
	Maybe you know, work with their vendors to get lower costs or all of that is more workload on them. So I'm really thankful that	03:12:00
	when we did go through this exercise, they were being realistic and giving us good reasons, examples, things that are feasible	03:12:05
	with that.	03:12:09
	Not hurting.	03:12:14
	Service levels as much as possible.	03:12:16
	That was, that's my opportunity to learn about what all the departments face, what they do, what their goals and projects are. So	03:12:18
	that's what I've learned is.	03:12:23
	Working with them.	03:12:27
	What they're going to be able to do with this budget and what they know they can accomplish so.	03:12:28
	That that's been my learning lesson here, is working with.	03:12:35
	These department heads and we're.	03:12:39
	I'm gonna have to cut them off, you know, when they start trying to spend more than they should. So.	03:12:41
	That's the next.	03:12:47
	Challenge and task at hand.	03:12:49
	I know we can do it. I know that it was a lot of difficult conversations, but.	03:12:52
	We're very thankful that everyone was willing to participate and that's what we could present you something feasible.	03:12:57
	In closing that gap and it's really it's not lip service. I know it's like cliche to thank all the departments, but like.	03:13:03
	Ashley and essentially got pulled into the budget on March 1st and had to help me find.	03:13:10
	Really. Over 2 years, 5 to $6 million in reductions.	03:13:17
	With in essentially 2 months.	03:13:22
	And we really couldn't have done that without.	03:13:24
	You know, when we asked the departments in our directors to.	03:13:27
	To help us, we told them what we were facing and I think.	03:13:32
	Everybody immediately understood and really came forward.	03:13:36
	Quickly.	03:13:40
	Real like, like Ashley said, real reductions that.	03:13:41
	We're realistic and.	03:13:46
	Feasible so.	03:13:48
	So that really was a key.	03:13:49
	For us, and I just want to thank everybody for that.	03:13:52
	Anyone else?	03:13:56
	So I do have some comments on some of the public comments that were written first of all.	03:13:57
	I have to say.	03:14:02
	To one specific comment.	03:14:04
	I don't get to participate in.	03:14:06
	Meetings when it comes to PD.	03:14:08
	Pay. I have to excuse myself so I don't get to participate in that. So the comment.	03:14:11
	About.	03:14:15
	Myself being a.	03:14:17
	Conflict of interest is inaccurate.	03:14:19
	I excuse myself every time there's anything to do with money when it comes to the Police Department.	03:14:21
	The second is we don't base our Police Department pay on.	03:14:25
	Local residents income if we did that.	03:14:29
	I would really, and this is unfortunate, I would say that we wouldn't have a very good Police Department.	03:14:32
	You get what you pay for when it comes to law enforcement, unfortunately, and we have to keep up with the next department who are	03:14:36
	constantly raising the bar, and we have to make it to where people want to come and work at our city. If we don't, they're going	03:14:41
	to go to Oxnard or they're going to go to the sheriff's are going to go to another agency, and we want to make sure that we can	03:14:45
	provide.	03:14:50
	Top quality police officers. And we do.	03:14:54
	And they they want to get paid. And unfortunately we don't get to set the standard for how much police work is.	03:14:57
	If we did, maybe we would, it would be a little lower, maybe it wouldn't. But the point is, is that Winemi.	03:15:03
	Doesn't get to set how much police officers make. We have to go by what the market is and the next agency is. And we're surrounded	03:15:10
	by multiple agencies and the officers that choose to come to our city choose because of their various reasons, but they could just	03:15:15
	as easily go to Oxnard or another agency. So I would like the people who write the letters to keep that in mind that we have to,	03:15:21
	we have to pay people just like our our public works people.	03:15:26
	If they're going to get paid more at Oxnard, they're going to go to Oxnard, so we have to make our wages.	03:15:32
	Competitive with other agencies.	03:15:37
	Great. Anyone else?	03:15:40
	Mayor, approach it.	03:15:42
	Yeah. So I think going back to workshop one and just closing out.	03:15:43
	My comment is.	03:15:49
	I think a major goal that we need, we need to ensure that we are right sized for the services that we provide.	03:15:51
	Our city hasn't grown.	03:15:58
	And so looking at the 2018 budget to 2025.	03:15:59
	We grew, you know, we grew 30 plus employees.	03:16:03
	With really.	03:16:07
	No increased services.	03:16:10
	So.	03:16:11
	With, with James, with your leadership, you know, we need to find out what that, what our magic number is and.	03:16:13
	Because we.	03:16:20
	Were built out.	03:16:23
	This should have been.	03:16:24
	Manageable where our numbers are pretty much even even skilled.	03:16:26
	Umm.	03:16:31
	We did get the list of.	03:16:34
	By departments What? What departments grew?	03:16:36
	And some some were substantial.	03:16:39
	So it's just gonna take some leadership, little oversight.	03:16:42
	Right size and.	03:16:45
	And looking at the 5% decrease per department, I think?	03:16:46
	We got a handle on this so.	03:16:52
	Yes, this is.	03:16:55
	This.	03:16:57
	Not the worst case scenario.	03:16:58
	But it's something that we can actually.	03:17:00
	Kind of focus on and we can.	03:17:03
	We can go left or right.	03:17:05
	With this.	03:17:07
	Thank you.	03:17:08
	Just want to say thank you very much.	03:17:12
	So as a member of council, a body of decision makers.	03:17:16
	It is really hard to think about.	03:17:22
	Possibly not having the funds to to.	03:17:25
	To run your city.	03:17:28
	Right. Umm.	03:17:29
	And the word that we keep using, hearing and using uncertainty.	03:17:30
	And that is just what it means. It's uncertain.	03:17:36
	And so we have to do our very best, and I thank you city manager, we have to do our very best to.	03:17:39
	Come up with what?	03:17:45
	Might be the right numbers, right. And I think that's what that's what we're doing. So I'm feeling really good about where we are	03:17:47
	understanding that.	03:17:50
	Like our city manager and you all have said that there may be some ebbs and flows and we'll have to figure out how to kind of ebb	03:17:54
	and flow with that.	03:17:57
	And so I just really appreciate the work you've done so far.	03:18:01
	And even back, I'll just say this just kind of looking at you how you're communicating about the process.	03:18:04
	And how you were able to work with the department?	03:18:14
	Department heads.	03:18:18
	I think that is probably.	03:18:20
	One of the best things that I've heard because.	03:18:23
	The people have to know that they can trust you and believe what you're saying and that the numbers are correct.	03:18:26
	And I'm getting, I'm getting, I'm seeing a couple of nods around here. So it's really good to see that you've kind of stepped in.	03:18:31
	You all are creating relationships and that's.	03:18:35
	The most important, I think, I think moving forward is that you all have the relationships of trust.	03:18:41
	And you, you all can make decisions based on that. So I appreciate the work that you all.	03:18:47
	Are doing and will have to continue to do over the next couple of years. So we really appreciate that.	03:18:51
	Councilmember Hernandez.	03:18:57
	Yeah, something came to mind that I wanted to comment on two things I want to talk about this concept of built out.	03:18:58
	And second of all, I want to talk about this concept of uncertainty.	03:19:04
	This uncertainty that we're facing right now is unlike anything that we've ever had to experience before.	03:19:08
	And it truly is uncertain we've got.	03:19:15
	Federal.	03:19:18
	Administration that is making cuts.	03:19:20
	Really fast.	03:19:24
	And the impact?	03:19:25
	Will have yet to see on our.	03:19:28
	On our local communities.	03:19:30
	In terms of housing, in terms of health.	03:19:32
	In terms of the funding that we depend on here at the municipal level.	03:19:34
	There's been a lot of talk about the impact on municipal employees.	03:19:40
	So to criticize our city management.	03:19:45
	That we're not.	03:19:49
	Looking at the trends or we're not that this is business as usual that it's.	03:19:50
	It's we can compare it to past experiences like COVID. I'm I would argue that that's what we're in right now is very different.	03:19:55
	Very different, and we've got to watch every day what's happening out there at the federal level and at the state level.	03:20:03
	Yes, we could lose grant funding at the federal level. The state has some of their own funding.	03:20:09
	We can hopefully won't lose that, but the state's not doing so well either.	03:20:14
	So everything is very uncertain.	03:20:19
	And we cannot. It's something beyond our control.	03:20:23
	So then people think that that's something that we can control up here from this dais.	03:20:27
	They need to follow the news.	03:20:32
	And study what's going on.	03:20:34
	And then as far as being built out, I don't want to use that as a fall back for not.	03:20:36
	Being creative and not thinking about the economic.	03:20:42
	Activities that we can implement, I think everything that we do in the future.	03:20:47
	Should have an economic development benefit to it.	03:20:51
	And maybe that's that's the criteria that we should use as we move forward. Does it have an economic development?	03:20:55
	A benefit to our community. That's how I would like to.	03:21:01
	To propose.	03:21:05
	We move forward.	03:21:06
	So I hope that we can implement our.	03:21:07
	Our economic development plan in small pieces, you know, when we come to the Council with ideas.	03:21:11
	That they have.	03:21:15
	Some justification that.	03:21:17
	Creates an economic.	03:21:20
	Benefit for our community. So thank you James, and thank you staff for all the hard work and.	03:21:22
	And the sacrifice that you had to make for this budget.	03:21:27
	Much appreciated.	03:21:30
	Anytime you are involved in difficulties, I think it's really important to highlight the positive aspects of what we've gone	03:21:31
	through here.	03:21:35
	And there are many.	03:21:38
	We live in a wonderful place.	03:21:39
	We have a wonderful team. We have a wonderful Police Department. We have excellent finance director. Our city manager is pretty	03:21:42
	good.	03:21:45
	I have a city attorney over there and this council.	03:21:49
	Works together.	03:21:52
	And I think at the end of the day.	03:21:53
	We're we're moving in the right direction. We may not have everything we want.	03:21:56
	But on the positive note.	03:22:01
	You know, we have some great people working with us.	03:22:03
	We're surrounded by artwork.	03:22:06
	Tomorrow's a new day. The sun's gonna come up and we're gonna keep.	03:22:08
	Keep living each day to the fullest so.	03:22:12
	Really proud of everybody and all the work that you've done. Thank you.	03:22:15
	Mayor, if I could say one last thing, I just want to thank Ashley, I want to thank James, I want to thank all the staff that	03:22:18
	participated in getting this budget under control.	03:22:22
	It's not easy. It hasn't been easy. We've been dealing with a lot of things over the past few years.	03:22:27
	That none of us anticipated.	03:22:31
	And we're not out of the woods yet, but I appreciate all the work that's been gone into this, and I appreciate the transparency	03:22:34
	and the honesty. And don't be afraid to tell us something we don't want to hear.	03:22:38
	Because we make our decisions based on the feedback we get from staff. If we have all the information and we know what we're	03:22:43
	looking at, we can make the best decisions for the community. We can't do that if we're only getting half information.	03:22:49
	Or incorrect information. So appreciate any truth that we can hear. That way we can do the best that we can. So we thank you for	03:22:55
	that.	03:22:58
	Great. Thank you.	03:23:03
	So we have the recommendation before us. Does anyone need me to go back over the recommendation? Are we good?	03:23:04
	OK, Madam Clerk, can we take a vote, please?	03:23:10
	It's going to be a roll call. So yes, roll call member Blackwell, member Brown are absent by councilmember member commissioner	03:23:14
	Gama yes. Councilmember member commissioner Hernandez, yes, council member, member Commissioner Perez, yes. Mayor Pro Tem, vice	03:23:22
	chair, vice president Lopez, yes. Mayor, chair, President McQueen Legend yes.	03:23:29
	Motion passes unanimously.	03:23:37
	Great. Thank you. This brings us back to the to the end of the special joint meeting. We will now reconvene the City Council	03:23:39
	regular meeting.	03:23:42
	The time is now 909.	03:23:46
	And we'll move to the consent calendar.	03:23:49
	Which will be enacted in one motion unless a council member has a request to remove an item. Is there any request to move any	03:23:52
	items?	03:23:55
	All right, if not, can I get a motion and a second for the second?	03:23:59
	2nd Madam Clerk, please take a vote. All in favor, aye.	03:24:03
	All opposed.	03:24:07
	Hearing none, motion passes unanimously.	03:24:08
	Great. So we'll move to our business item, Beach erosion authority for clean oceans and nourishment.	03:24:11
	Goals for fiscal year 20/25/2026.	03:24:18
	Staff please present.	03:24:25
	Thank you.	03:24:26
	And I think we might have.	03:24:28
	Some representatives of.	03:24:31
	Beacon on the zoom perhaps?	03:24:32
	Just let me know that they left the Zoom meeting.	03:24:36
	Because I talked too long.	03:24:40
	Yeah.	03:24:41
	We do have in the staff report.	03:24:43
	Well, let me back up and say so. Recently, the City Council had directed that a future item be scheduled to receive information	03:24:46
	regarding the goals for Beacon.	03:24:51
	And to allow the Council to provide direction regarding those goals.	03:24:56
	The staff report includes an italics.	03:25:00
	That's direct language from Beacon Executive Director.	03:25:04
	Mark Baylor.	03:25:09
	Regarding.	03:25:10
	The goals that he is.	03:25:12
	Putting forward.	03:25:14
	And there's some detail there, but.	03:25:17
	High level Channel Islands harbor sand trap dredging advocacy.	03:25:19
	Ventura Sand Summit coordination, Ormond Beach habitat and public access planning.	03:25:24
	And sumas Creek water quality where the four main.	03:25:29
	Areas umm.	03:25:33
	And so Mr. Baylor provided his recommended goals.	03:25:34
	For the Council to consider.	03:25:40
	And we had planned to have a couple representatives, but.	03:25:42
	At this point.	03:25:47
	I can answer.	03:25:49
	What I can and then if we have a follow up, we can always just follow up with with.	03:25:50
	With Beacon following the meeting so.	03:25:55
	Happy to answer.	03:25:58
	Any questions I'm able to.	03:26:00
	OK. Thank you and thank you for the staff report.	03:26:03
	I'm glad to have the opportunity to discuss.	03:26:06
	That beacon has for our city.	03:26:10
	The question I have regarding the language under the Channel Islands Harbor soundtrack dredging.	03:26:13
	It's a little confusing to me if this came from Beacon.	03:26:20
	Did Beacon run this language by the lead agency, the county?	03:26:24
	In regards to.	03:26:29
	The dredging, because, well, I'll just tell you.	03:26:31
	Let's see item.	03:26:35
	Bullet #1.	03:26:36
	On the bottom of the page, page one, it says dredging at Channel Islands Harbor sand trap is a federal obligation.	03:26:39
	Involving funding from the Army Corps of Engineers and the US Navy.	03:26:46
	We don't get money from the US Navy.	03:26:50
	And then it says and it's not one of the navigation.	03:26:53
	As it relates to wine, EMI Beach.	03:26:58
	Well, the purpose of the dredging is.	03:27:00
	Twofold, it's 1/2.	03:27:03
	Provide for navigation and then second it provides.	03:27:05
	San for Wanneme Beach and it also says Silver Strand even though they I don't know that they do that anymore.	03:27:09
	So they do.	03:27:16
	OK, so.	03:27:18
	This doesn't seem accurate and I don't want to approve something that is not accurate.	03:27:20
	And did that, did you?	03:27:26
	Did that. Did anybody else notice that?	03:27:28
	Just to say, this is not.	03:27:31
	File so just so you know what to receive so we can actually go back OK.	03:27:34
	OK, thanks.	03:27:38
	I'll send it back for that question.	03:27:40
	Is that true?	03:27:44
	I'm not sure I.	03:27:48
	I know that.	03:27:51
	Well, my understanding.	03:27:52
	And we do have good news to report is that.	03:27:54
	We did get confirmation that.	03:27:58
	The funding?	03:28:00
	For the return trip in fall is.	03:28:02
	Was approved.	03:28:05
	But I had understood, I thought, I had thought it was a congressional earmark. OK, so I don't.	03:28:07
	I had assumed the funding comes from that source, not from specifically the Army Corps of Engineer or the US Navy, so I'm not	03:28:14
	sure.	03:28:17
	What that refers to, so my understanding and I'm not clear on this, but there is dredging at the Channel Islands harbor, which is	03:28:21
	the biannual dredging that is.	03:28:27
	Provided through a congressional action.	03:28:34
	It gives the Army Corps of Engineer.	03:28:36
	Money to come and do.	03:28:39
	Do the dredging.	03:28:41
	Of the Channel Islands harbor.	03:28:42
	Then the port has.	03:28:44
	They do their dredging of the, of their heart, of.	03:28:47
	Their their port, their access to the port which is separate from the Channel Islands.	03:28:51
	But and then the sand comes to us from that.	03:28:56
	Then the Navy has their own pot of money, and it's in the Army Corps of Engineers.	03:29:00
	Work plan and budget. They have their own source of funding.	03:29:05
	And I'm not really sure.	03:29:09
	What if that goes for dredging or if it goes?	03:29:11
	Or other.	03:29:14
	Umm, shoreline protection measures.	03:29:16
	So I'd like to get clarification on that if we could.	03:29:18
	Also some typographical errors. It's Army Corps with AP, not Army Corps with Co RE.	03:29:21
	So it is very complicated and I think.	03:29:30
	It gets complicated.	03:29:34
	Initially by.	03:29:36
	The Port of Wineemi being referred to as a natural deep water port.	03:29:39
	And that is?	03:29:45
	Technically correct.	03:29:46
	And so the dredging isn't.	03:29:48
	To keep the navigation channel open as it is in Ventura.	03:29:51
	Ventura Harbor is.	03:29:56
	Their dredging is 100% to keep the commercial enterprises coming in and out of the harbour.	03:29:59
	That's not the case here.	03:30:05
	So with the sand trap.	03:30:07
	It traps the sand at Hollywood Beach.	03:30:09
	To be manually bypassed around the port of Waeneme.	03:30:12
	And then they do a little fill up of Silver Strand Beach periodically.	03:30:17
	Um, and.	03:30:23
	I know that.	03:30:24
	The port of Wineemi doesn't fill up with sand. It does collect sand overtime.	03:30:27
	But it's not like.	03:30:34
	Ventura Harbor.	03:30:36
	Where Ventura can remember, there is an emergency.	03:30:38
	A few years ago where they brought the dredge back to get Ventura Harbor open because it closed up.	03:30:41
	Because of the rain storms.	03:30:47
	So yes, it is very complicated and.	03:30:49
	And it gets even more complicated.	03:30:54
	And.	03:30:57
	Advocacy and.	03:31:00
	The thing that I've been arguing about.	03:31:01
	For six years now is.	03:31:03
	You know we're supposed to be mimicking Mother Nature.	03:31:05
	2.4 million cubic yards of sand every two years.	03:31:09
	We have a 30 million cubic yard sand deficit.	03:31:12
	And that deficit is sand laying on Hollywood Beach, which has now turned into a sand dune.	03:31:17
	Which now the Coastal Commission is coming in and saying you can't touch it.	03:31:25
	And they talk about the sand trap and the sand and.	03:31:28
	And so it's all interconnected.	03:31:31
	It's all complicated.	03:31:34
	You get all these different agencies involved.	03:31:37
	So.	03:31:39
	I don't think it's ever going to be as clear as it it it.	03:31:40
	We'd like it to be.	03:31:43
	And.	03:31:49
	In terms of.	03:31:50
	This year.	03:31:52
	We had to.	03:31:53
	Scramble.	03:31:56
	And we're still don't have it.	03:31:58
	Is not guaranteed. The work plan hasn't been issued.	03:32:00
	Right. Yeah, we got confirmation that the funding is there, but there's still a couple steps. That's it's it's.	03:32:04
	We've got 2 steps down and I think 2:00 to go.	03:32:10
	Right. And we had a representative beacon was in Washington last week, I think Brian Brennan and advocating for us and.	03:32:13
	But we're still trying to pin this thing down, and it's so important because if we don't.	03:32:20
	We're going to be potentially in a world of hurt.	03:32:24
	And you know, we just finished our budget.	03:32:28
	Last time it cost our.	03:32:30
	Unexpected.	03:32:33
	Expenses of $2,000,000. You know we had to lay down RIP rap and rocks.	03:32:34
	To protect Surfside Drive and we lost sidewalk and Surfside Drive and so.	03:32:39
	That's why it's critically important that we get this dredge operation back here in October so we could avoid that.	03:32:44
	You know, it's, it's frustrating.	03:32:53
	In the fact that we got shorted.	03:32:55
	Big time.	03:32:59
	And now?	03:33:00
	Were have uncertainty.	03:33:02
	Regarding whether we're going to get the dredge here back in October.	03:33:06
	So I think.	03:33:09
	And then?	03:33:11
	We just had a meeting, a Beacon meeting this past Friday. Where?	03:33:13
	You know we, we.	03:33:16
	I had the opportunity to discuss, OK, what additional efforts are we doing to make sure this happens?	03:33:18
	Because we're not. We're not there yet.	03:33:24
	Funding there, but but we're not there yet and so.	03:33:26
	I don't know Mark has a hard time from Malibu or the hills where he lives, but.	03:33:30
	I don't know, maybe we could follow up.	03:33:34
	If we have questions in writing to him.	03:33:37
	Any other questions? Yeah, I got it. Go right here.	03:33:42
	So it seems like beacon.	03:33:45
	Is not working.	03:33:47
	What it sounds like, they're not.	03:33:48
	Successfully lobbying at all, I mean, we, we, we talked about.	03:33:50
	Using the port.	03:33:55
	While they're in Washington to lobby.	03:33:57
	We talked about RDP.	03:34:00
	Taking tours with.	03:34:02
	Our congressional leaders to lobby.	03:34:04
	And it seemed like that was very effective.	03:34:07
	But yet.	03:34:09
	Beacon didn't do anything.	03:34:10
	So I'm just using your words when we talked about this, if that was effective.	03:34:13
	Then we would have the work plan right now.	03:34:18
	Well, we didn't get the sand, you know we're you're blaming.	03:34:20
	Money. You're blaming Mother Nature.	03:34:25
	For for something that we got.	03:34:28
	But it's not because we didn't get it.	03:34:30
	Equipment broke.	03:34:34
	So, umm.	03:34:35
	I think this all.	03:34:36
	Point effort actually worked.	03:34:37
	And we're just waiting now on a timeline. It seems like we got earmarked.	03:34:41
	But to bash other organizations because they're not helping you did you did that.	03:34:45
	You bash the port and RDP.	03:34:51
	And Army Corps engineer? Yeah, you did.	03:34:54
	All I'm saying I was using your own word. It wasn't being efficient.	03:34:58
	But in reality.	03:35:02
	It all.	03:35:03
	So we're.	03:35:05
	The efforts being pushed city managers.	03:35:06
	Working with.	03:35:09
	Beacon working with the.	03:35:10
	And I think we're it's, we're being effective.	03:35:14
	You know and.	03:35:16
	We will continue to talk about this until we get the sand on the beach so.	03:35:17
	OK, great.	03:35:21
	Did you have anything?	03:35:24
	I just want to follow up with that. I don't think it was any of these agencies.	03:35:26
	Not working together, that was a problem. I think it was the state and the federal fighting over a permit.	03:35:31
	That was the reason why I failed last time. I mean, there's.	03:35:36
	I think all the agencies that are working together are doing the best they can.	03:35:39
	With what they have and we should just keep.	03:35:42
	Being positive and supporting them and pushing their efforts.	03:35:45
	Yeah, and just reminded me the air pollution credits.	03:35:48
	They were pulled on.	03:35:52
	That caused us a problem.	03:35:54
	So there's so many ongoing parts.	03:35:56
	And uh.	03:35:59
	The Navy. The port.	03:36:01
	City, we all have to continuously work together then, notwithstanding the fact that there is a history.	03:36:04
	4050 What is it? 60-70 year history here.	03:36:10
	Where there is a 30 million.	03:36:14
	That 30 million cubic yards of sand deficit.	03:36:17
	That's the facts.	03:36:21
	Now, I'm not blaming RDP or blaming the Navy or blaming the port.	03:36:23
	It's this.	03:36:26
	Bureaucracy that we have to operate in.	03:36:28
	It's very difficult.	03:36:31
	Even when we have our.	03:36:33
	Champion our respected Congresswoman advocating for us.	03:36:34
	We decisions are made that don't fulfill the obligation.	03:36:40
	And the obligation is mimic Mother Nature 2.4 million cubic yards of sand every two years and so.	03:36:45
	If we are going to maintain Winemi Beach.	03:36:52
	And if we're going to have an environment?	03:36:55
	That, uh.	03:36:58
	Create sand dunes for the least turn the snowy plover We need to have that sand.	03:36:59
	And it's just that simple. So yeah, I am a little critical.	03:37:04
	Because we've never been able to get it right over all these years and it's frustrating.	03:37:07
	Yeah, and you could roll your eyes and that's fine.	03:37:13
	You smacked your lips or something but.	03:37:15
	You know, it's frustrating.	03:37:18
	It's frustrating.	03:37:20
	Because.	03:37:23
	We disrupted the natural flow of sand and all we have to do is mimic Mother Nature every two years.	03:37:25
	Councilmember OK. I want to thank Councilwoman Perez for her statements and clarifying.	03:37:31
	The reality of this situation, and I don't think it's that complicated to understand that.	03:37:37
	We are the recipient of the sand. We are not the only community in the United States who's dealing with coastal erosion.	03:37:43
	In my.	03:37:53
	Meetings.	03:37:54
	Through League of California Cities and SCAG, I talked to other.	03:37:55
	Coastal communities and they're going through the same.	03:38:00
	Thing trying to protect their shoreline.	03:38:03
	And working with the Corps of Engineers and others have Navy bases in their communities as well, so we are not unique in that.	03:38:06
	What we are unique in is we do have Beacon. Beacon was not there to.	03:38:15
	Be the lead advocate for.	03:38:20
	For Port Hueneme's beach problems they have.	03:38:24
	Been willing to help.	03:38:27
	But the simple simplified arrangement is.	03:38:29
	We need to understand that the county is the lead agency.	03:38:33
	County Harbors is who we work.	03:38:37
	Through to do our advocacy and and we work.	03:38:39
	With Congresswoman Brownlee's office.	03:38:43
	That's those two points that we need to those are the two people we should be talking to and then that's it.	03:38:46
	I mean, of course, Beacon, if they can help advocate, that's great, but we don't.	03:38:52
	Put the onus on them alone and when we have the opportunities to talk about this and we go to DC.	03:38:56
	We do that.	03:39:02
	And we talked to Congressman when Brownie's office and we do ask for money and she has come through.	03:39:03
	What? Two years ago she came through for us and the money's here now.	03:39:11
	The money has been allocated to do the dredging, but for reasons that.	03:39:16
	Councilman. Woman.	03:39:20
	Perez had referred to and the situation this year.	03:39:22
	You know, things happen out of our control.	03:39:27
	Umm. And so we just have to do the best we can.	03:39:29
	And be grateful that we've got these agencies to work with and we should foster good working relationships with them and not be so	03:39:33
	critical that they're not.	03:39:39
	Doing enough?	03:39:44
	My intent in raising this issue here was that I just hope we can all get on the same page and all have the same understanding on	03:39:46
	how this this dredging cycle works.	03:39:51
	And the levels of government that we're working with and how we work through them.	03:39:57
	To get the money that we need.	03:40:02
	So I think I'd like if we can get staff to go back and get a.	03:40:04
	Correct understanding of.	03:40:08
	Of how this is supposed to work.	03:40:10
	At least.	03:40:13
	Make correct remarks.	03:40:14
	And, you know, accurate.	03:40:16
	Comments and.	03:40:19
	At least that.	03:40:21
	So.	03:40:22
	If I may.	03:40:23
	So I just we just had a beacon meeting last.	03:40:24
	Week last Friday in a.	03:40:28
	Over the last six years.	03:40:30
	There has been a transformation of.	03:40:32
	Beacon into a lead agency wall. An agency that is about sand replenishment.	03:40:35
	And one of the.	03:40:42
	Major projects that we've just.	03:40:44
	Muscled through, it's very difficult.	03:40:47
	Was uh.	03:40:49
	Getting.	03:40:51
	The Coastal Commission.	03:40:52
	And others.	03:40:53
	City county governments to realize that each section is different.	03:40:55
	And we?	03:40:59
	Beacon has LED.	03:41:01
	On a new design of debris basins.	03:41:03
	And because what we've learned over the last.	03:41:07
	Decade. Decades. Many years.	03:41:10
	We've cut off the flow of sediment to the beaches, so it's not necessarily sea level rise, it's that.	03:41:12
	We have a freeway, we have catch basins and we collect the sediment that would be sand on a beach and we put it in trucks and we	03:41:19
	take it to a landfill.	03:41:24
	And the aha moment.	03:41:29
	Was.	03:41:31
	The Montecito mudslide.	03:41:32
	When the 101 was closed for three weeks.	03:41:34
	And the California Coastal Commission was.	03:41:37
	Arguing.	03:41:42
	That it's the wrong grain size. You can't take it to the ocean, you have to take it to the landfill and that's what happened.	03:41:43
	And so at Beacon, we always say every mountain wants to become a beach, every coastal mountain wants to become a beach.	03:41:50
	And so this new design of this catch basin is?	03:41:55
	Designed to allow sediment to keep moving towards the beach.	03:42:00
	And this is a huge, huge.	03:42:05
	The the presentation, the.	03:42:09
	Presenter that we had Mr.	03:42:12
	Last week.	03:42:15
	Said Mr. Roth.	03:42:17
	He said.	03:42:20
	It's a monumental change for the California Coastal Commission to realize that each coastal zone is different.	03:42:22
	Now, does Winimi have a catch basin? No.	03:42:29
	Does Oxnard have a catch basin? No.	03:42:33
	Ventura has one right outside the house.	03:42:36
	Out, you know, that's what you cross a Ventura River, they have catch basins up, up, along, up the seacoast to Santa Barbara,	03:42:39
	Rincon and all that.	03:42:43
	You know so.	03:42:48
	Realizing that every.	03:42:49
	Coastal zone is different. You have to have a different.	03:42:51
	Method.	03:42:54
	And here in the city of Port Hueneme, Hueneme Beach, 100% dependent on the manual.	03:42:55
	Bypass of sand or the port of whene be.	03:43:01
	I mean, that's how we get our sand, the sand that ends up at.	03:43:04
	Hollywood Beach.	03:43:07
	Comes from the Santa Clara River.	03:43:08
	And like Doctor Kiki, Patch has been educating us on And is that?	03:43:11
	The inflows have to match the outflows or you're going to have too little sand or too much sand.	03:43:16
	And beacon.	03:43:22
	Is.	03:43:24
	Leading in these areas to get.	03:43:26
	These bureaucracies like the California Coastal Commission to change their way of thinking.	03:43:31
	So, umm.	03:43:37
	I'm really excited.	03:43:39
	Of that ground shift.	03:43:41
	And again the way.	03:43:45
	The way.	03:43:47
	Mr. Roth described it was earth shattering for the Coastal Commission to pivot the way they pivot.	03:43:48
	And what they did is.	03:43:56
	They allowed allowed a project.	03:43:58
	To where we could take.	03:44:01
	Sand from a debris basin.	03:44:03
	And deposit it on Carpinteria Beach.	03:44:07
	So that the ocean could do its thing and move the sediment along the beach.	03:44:10
	And they're very, very.	03:44:15
	They weren't supportive.	03:44:18
	Then they became.	03:44:19
	Timidly supportive.	03:44:21
	And now they've made the full circle then like, hey, this is a path forward.	03:44:23
	Because.	03:44:27
	We have to find a way to get sediment to the beaches up coast now.	03:44:28
	Here in me.	03:44:33
	It's all about dredging and that's just the fact of it. So.	03:44:34
	I think beacons doing great in terms of.	03:44:38
	Having an impact, a positive impact on coastal regions.	03:44:42
	Um, and I think.	03:44:48
	I think we.	03:44:50
	Are benefited by.	03:44:53
	Being aligned with them and.	03:44:54
	And them advocating lobbying, education efforts, whatever it takes.	03:44:56
	And.	03:45:02
	I look forward to continue the progress that we've we've made the positive progress that we've made and we've made some pretty	03:45:05
	good.	03:45:08
	Pretty good. Uh uh.	03:45:11
	Pivots.	03:45:13
	Councilmember Perez.	03:45:15
	I don't have anything, I just want to.	03:45:16
	Move forward.	03:45:18
	Are we doing a motion to receive and ask for corrections on? Can I just make one, one statement? So I just wanted to put it on the	03:45:19
	record that I got an opportunity to sit down and talk to a Supervisor Lopez from the 5th District, who is our district	03:45:25
	representative on the Board of Supervisors.	03:45:31
	And she provided me some information, historical information. She has a.	03:45:38
	Folks that are in her office working on this all the time.	03:45:44
	And so I did get a summary that I passed on to our city manager.	03:45:48
	And so I think success is getting sand.	03:45:53
	And so.	03:45:57
	As long as we get sand and.	03:45:58
	Are not skipped over and don't get any sand.	03:46:01
	I think the process that is being worked.	03:46:04
	Is working.	03:46:06
	Hopefully one day we'll catch up.	03:46:07
	But as long as we have representation and folks are.	03:46:09
	Advocating for not just us, but up the coast.	03:46:13
	I think we're doing a good job and I think.	03:46:18
	We've heard about the issues that we've had over the last year or so.	03:46:21
	Last year with the permits.	03:46:25
	But.	03:46:27
	The the fact is.	03:46:29
	The funding has been there.	03:46:31
	I understand this is what was communicated to me. There's one dredging.	03:46:33
	Piece of equipment.	03:46:37
	And there's a time span by which the dredging must take place.	03:46:38
	Or the dredge equipment has to move on.	03:46:43
	And so the money's there. We just are waiting now to see if we can get the dredge equipment back.	03:46:46
	To do the work so.	03:46:52
	We're getting the money, we're getting the sand.	03:46:53
	We have some circumstances that prohibited us from getting the sand that was available to us this year.	03:46:57
	And we're hoping to get that.	03:47:02
	But I think if we continue.	03:47:04
	To stay connected to the folks.	03:47:05
	That have the ears up and.	03:47:08
	Congresswoman Brownlee's doing wonderful work, but I think most of the information that goes to her is not from Port Hueneme.	03:47:11
	I think is coming from the Board of Supervisors and those above us.	03:47:18
	And so we just need to be continued to be on RDP. It's important continue to be on all these other.	03:47:22
	Committees and commissions that are allowing us to.	03:47:32
	You know, to whisper in the ears of the people who have the authority to do what we need them to do.	03:47:36
	And so I think we've been pretty successful.	03:47:40
	At that the work of us and the work of our city manager and others. So really appreciate that and with that.	03:47:42
	Anything else?	03:47:49
	We can move on. OK, great.	03:47:51
	So this is just a receive.	03:47:53
	And file so city manager you.	03:47:56
	Yeah, I think just to receive and file and I'll ask for clarification on that one point.	03:48:00
	I think the only reason, the only way we would really need to take any action would be if there was like a specific.	03:48:06
	A task that the Council wanted to ask.	03:48:11
	Or, you know, our goal that the Council wanted to ask begin to add.	03:48:14
	But umm.	03:48:18
	Otherwise it's just a receive and file and we'll get clarification.	03:48:19
	On that.	03:48:24
	On those first bullets, OK.	03:48:26
	Great.	03:48:29
	So let's can I get a motion on the 2nd to receive?	03:48:30
	And for city manager, go out.	03:48:33
	So moved.	03:48:35
	2nd.	03:48:37
	Thank you, Madam Clerk.	03:48:39
	All in favor.	03:48:41
	All opposed.	03:48:43
	Hearing none, motion passes unanimously.	03:48:44
	Great. Let's move to number item number 11, City Hall Electric vehicle charger update will staff.	03:48:47
	Yes, thank you. And this is umm.	03:48:54
	It's a little bit different of an item I think.	03:48:57
	It's mostly that we wanted to sort of.	03:48:59
	Give an update.	03:49:03
	To the council and to the community on something that we're looking at and something that'll be changing.	03:49:04
	It's not a very costly item, so it wouldn't.	03:49:12
	Typically need to be.	03:49:15
	You know, separately approved, but it was more about wanting to provide some information.	03:49:17
	And in a nutshell.	03:49:23
	Cities, especially cities that actually added an EV chart electric vehicle charging station early on.	03:49:28
	There was really no standard charger at that time.	03:49:34
	So a lot of cities well.	03:49:38
	Almost across the board is like every city sort of bought.	03:49:40
	The charger with the hope that it would be.	03:49:44
	You know that it would.	03:49:48
	Sort of be.	03:49:50
	Available permanently.	03:49:52
	But what has happened is.	03:49:54
	Over the years, with this being new technology is almost all of those early chargers are sort of going.	03:49:56
	Down or shutting down or losing functionality.	03:50:03
	And so.	03:50:06
	A lot of cities and other agencies, I think if you go visit the port, for example, either of their parking lots.	03:50:08
	Have moved to charge point chargers which are sort of the standard now.	03:50:14
	And most city halls.	03:50:19
	Have those. The port has those. Other agencies have those.	03:50:22
	It makes it very easy because anybody with an electric vehicle just has to have one account and they can use any of those chargers	03:50:26
	versus, you know, each city having its own charger and having to get a separate account.	03:50:31
	And preload money onto each account.	03:50:37
	And so.	03:50:40
	We were aware of this, but our chargers had.	03:50:42
	Continued to work, but we're getting to a point coming up.	03:50:45
	Soon.	03:50:49
	Some of the functionality is going to start disappearing.	03:50:51
	And potentially the ability to recover the costs for electricity usage.	03:50:54
	As well.	03:50:58
	That's a challenge for us, especially in this budget time. Not that we're looking to buy new chargers, but if we can't charge for	03:51:00
	the electricity and recover the cost, then that's going to end up impacting our general fund.	03:51:05
	And so.	03:51:11
	We wanted to really just bring this forward to explain that and then to note that what we're going to do is we're going to try to.	03:51:12
	Look for some.	03:51:21
	Grant funding. We actually had a potentially a grant that we were already looking at.	03:51:22
	And then look at.	03:51:27
	Trying to obtain a charge point charger and remove the current charger and swap it with a charge point charger.	03:51:28
	And so we're asking Council.	03:51:36
	Um.	03:51:40
	Authorize staff to replace.	03:51:41
	The current charger and to.	03:51:44
	Seek that are an authorization to seek grant those grant opportunities.	03:51:51
	Along with.	03:51:56
	The next step that we'll be looking to do is coming back to council.	03:51:57
	And also recommending.	03:52:01
	Adjusting the cost for the electricity.	03:52:05
	I think that's another thing that.	03:52:08
	When we started, a lot of cities kind of set the electricity rates and most of the cities set it at the same level. But overtime a	03:52:10
	lot of cities have increased their rates and it's something that.	03:52:14
	We looked very quickly and I think it was in the report.	03:52:19
	For example, Camarillo.	03:52:23
	Charges $1.88 per hour to charge and we charge $1.60 per hour, so we'd look at.	03:52:25
	The cities look at our electric.	03:52:31
	Rates and then make a recommendation to increase the rate.	03:52:33
	Which would.	03:52:36
	I'll pay for the electricity but also offset the cost of providing the chargers so.	03:52:37
	So.	03:52:42
	Again, no real like specific action, it's just informing the council and then trying to get the direction to.	03:52:44
	To move forward with that and coming back to council to look at those costs.	03:52:51
	So.	03:52:59
	You just have a level 2 charter.	03:53:01
	What about a Level 3?	03:53:04
	Which is the rapid chargers.	03:53:06
	Because when?	03:53:08
	When that level twos, that means the car is going to stay there up to 8 hours.	03:53:10
	And when?	03:53:16
	When they're they're in use, that means it's tied up.	03:53:18
	So have we even thought about looking at Level 3 chargers?	03:53:22
	We haven't looked at Level 3 yet.	03:53:25
	There is some sort of future planning and we're actually talking to the county.	03:53:28
	Sort of a countrywide electric vehicle charger program where they'd actually be able to provide some.	03:53:33
	And so we can.	03:53:39
	Through that, we can try to advocate for Level 2 or Level 3 chargers.	03:53:41
	We didn't consider it here because here.	03:53:46
	We're just looking to swap the current with.	03:53:49
	With that.	03:53:52
	New or, you know, with the new version of that same thing without, you know, the additional infrastructure.	03:53:53
	Costs and everything.	03:53:59
	I will say.	03:54:01
	The level 2 chargers, a lot of places call them like destination chargers because the idea is that.	03:54:04
	You know, somebody, for example, drives to Port Hueneme and wants to go to the beach for the day. They can actually park their car	03:54:11
	and go to the beach. You don't walk to the beach.	03:54:15
	Whereas a Level 3 charger.	03:54:19
	Is really for that like fast like 15 minute charge, 1520 minute charge?	03:54:22
	And the challenge with that and why a lot of cities with level 2 is?	03:54:26
	Is actually wanting to encourage people to like.	03:54:30
	Stay in the city, like visit the city, you know.	03:54:32
	Versus drive in, sit in your car, charge it for 15 minutes, drive out.	03:54:35
	So I have actually.	03:54:39
	In the past looked at like.	03:54:41
	You know, the goal is you want, you want both, you really want like you want to have both, but.	03:54:43
	For City Hall's, having that level 2 isn't necessarily a bad thing if the.	03:54:47
	As far as having that destination charger option.	03:54:53
	But umm.	03:54:56
	So I think we will.	03:54:57
	Try to look at.	03:54:59
	Like the options for Level 3 chargers.	03:55:00
	Some cities have even been able to get some of the providers to actually, you know, pay to put a Level 3 charger in to give that	03:55:03
	option. So that's something we can try to see if there's interest in.	03:55:08
	But for now, this item was just replacing level 2, Level 2 at as low a cost as we.	03:55:13
	Council member comma.	03:55:22
	So we're going to replace the entire unit. I was under the impression that where it was a software.	03:55:25
	Like if we go to this new service provider, we're just going to update the software and use the same equipment.	03:55:31
	It's most likely going to be the entire unit.	03:55:38
	We're still.	03:55:41
	We got the notice that this was going to happen very.	03:55:42
	Last minute.	03:55:46
	Like early last week.	03:55:47
	And.	03:55:50
	We're still getting exact clarification of.	03:55:54
	What needs to be replaced? But I believe it's the charger. The charger as a whole.	03:55:57
	But if we're able to.	03:56:02
	Just replace the platform and then still we're able to still charge at that point, then we'd probably just or we would just	03:56:04
	replace that portion of it. Have we broken?	03:56:09
	Even over the life of these chargers? Or are we subsidizing those who use them?	03:56:14
	I pretty.	03:56:20
	Simply could say.	03:56:22
	And a lot of cities chose to do this. I don't know if this was actually part of the.	03:56:24
	Thought process, but I know.	03:56:28
	Prior city when we put charges in, the City Council actually wanted to subsidize the cost to encourage people to.	03:56:30
	You know.	03:56:36
	Remember the Chargers, especially early on, they were actually part of meeting like.	03:56:38
	City's general plan goals as far as it relates to reducing emissions and things like that.	03:56:43
	So a lot of cities actually did choose to subsidize the cost of the electricity to encourage the conversion.	03:56:50
	But I think what's happening and when we mentioned.	03:56:56
	Camarillo is, I think a lot of cities now are at the point where they're done subsidizing those costs and they're starting to	03:56:58
	adjust them.	03:57:02
	And I think.	03:57:05
	I do believe.	03:57:06
	What with what our rates currently are at?	03:57:08
	We're subsidizing it a bit.	03:57:12
	So we would try to look at.	03:57:14
	Adjusting that.	03:57:16
	So.	03:57:19
	She had her hands already. Yeah, Councilmember, I just wanted to make a comment. Has the councils the cities representative on the	03:57:21
	Clean Power Alliance board?	03:57:25
	That there is some grant money available for chargers. I just heard a presentation at our last meeting and I was at the their	03:57:30
	annual conference so.	03:57:35
	CPA is doing a real good job, yeah. And they're flush with money right now, so I think.	03:57:40
	Definitely, I'll keep my eyes open for.	03:57:46
	Potential.	03:57:49
	Potential grants and I will get you that information on whatever you're interested in that for sure.	03:57:50
	Mayor Pro Tem, yes. So the way I interpreted this because I use charging stations a lot, especially if out of town.	03:57:55
	So what this charging station is, it's a it's.	03:58:02
	It's it's called charge point and what it does is you got to have the app.	03:58:06
	And you. You.	03:58:10
	You have to recognize it with.	03:58:11
	With your car so.	03:58:13
	Other charge point like easy go you, you just plug in and you just tap your card and it starts charging.	03:58:15
	That doesn't have that capability.	03:58:22
	So it's it's just the difference that it almost seems like the whole.	03:58:24
	Stan needs to be replaced with with their.	03:58:28
	Way of communicating and charging.	03:58:31
	That's how I interpret this.	03:58:33
	This was written.	03:58:35
	Yeah, correct. And that's where and then starting June 1st, so there even the existing functionality, some of that.	03:58:37
	Is going away, so it's really not going to be as functional as like those charge point.	03:58:43
	Chargers are.	03:58:48
	Can I just ask?	03:58:50
	So our.	03:58:52
	Are we expected to get this done before the changes in June come and we?	03:58:53
	Are not able to collect fees.	03:58:59
	We're going to try to.	03:59:01
	And I think that's why one of the reasons, like I said, it sort of happened quickly.	03:59:02
	We weren't.	03:59:07
	Like, we hadn't really thought about the Chargers in a while. It was working and, you know, kind of.	03:59:08
	You know what, it was working. If it's not broken, don't fix it. And then we got notice.	03:59:14
	Last week.	03:59:17
	Like it's like by the way, they're going to stop working.	03:59:18
	So we wanted to put an item on the agenda, explain it.	03:59:21
	But.	03:59:25
	Like realize because.	03:59:26
	Like we're gonna look at some options and it.	03:59:27
	And then we'll probably move pretty quick.	03:59:30
	And so we wanted everybody to know what's going on because if all of a sudden.	03:59:32
	If we can.	03:59:37
	Identify some funding.	03:59:39
	Get a charge point charger and replace it. People might see us out there working in two weeks. You know what have you.	03:59:40
	But umm.	03:59:46
	But obviously June 5th, June 1st is very quick, so there is a possibility that you know.	03:59:47
	That there might be.	03:59:54
	Gap there where the system doesn't work and and.	03:59:56
	In which case our understanding from talking to them is that if the system is down, somebody can plug in and it's just free	04:00:00
	electricity should not have said that. And so I was trying not to say that, but I'm trying.	04:00:06
	Yeah, the challenge of answering the question but but.	04:00:13
	Yeah, yeah. But we don't.	04:00:17
	It's a challenge, and I guess this is.	04:00:19
	Part of why we wanted to talk about this is.	04:00:21
	We know that providing that service is important.	04:00:23
	So I think, you know, that's where the Council can always tell us we're going down the wrong path, but.	04:00:27
	Where I ended up was.	04:00:32
	Let's try to get a replacement.	04:00:33
	And get it in as soon as possible and as soon as we can.	04:00:35
	You know, as soon as we can figure out the funding.	04:00:38
	But in the meantime, we're going to.	04:00:40
	Leave it.	04:00:42
	And we're going to try to make it work as long as, you know, as long as we can.	04:00:43
	What is the? What is the generally the?	04:00:47
	The amount of.	04:00:51
	Funds revenue that is received in a month.	04:00:54
	I mean, it's a good question. I don't have that number off hand. I can.	04:00:57
	I can.	04:01:03
	We'll try to get that. I was trying to do the math in my head while I was. Yeah, I was just one. Yeah. Just a question you don't	04:01:05
	have to answer me. I was just wondering if we if we missed that that timeline, we had to go a month or two. What would that be? I	04:01:09
	think it's.	04:01:14
	Pretty minimal. I mean, even if.	04:01:18
	It's not in use 24 hours a day, but even if it was in use 24 hours a day, it's about, well, that would be about what, $40 a day,	04:01:21
	let's say.	04:01:25
	And so times 30.	04:01:30
	Is, you know, starts getting up there $1200. So that's where and I think that's where.	04:01:31
	We said.	04:01:38
	You know our.	04:01:39
	We're going to try to make a couple calls, try to get a couple like see about some grants. But if not.	04:01:42
	I'm just recommending we just buy.	04:01:47
	A charger and try to replace it.	04:01:49
	Yeah, because it does add up after.	04:01:51
	Month or two.	04:01:53
	Right. And I know you said Ventura County, I do know that APCD actually supports the Ev's as well and they fund some. So I'm not	04:01:54
	really sure who you, but I don't know what the timeline is when they have those. Yeah, that's the challenge we've actually been in	04:01:58
	conversations for a while with.	04:02:03
	The county and some other groups about.	04:02:08
	There was interest in adding chargers.	04:02:10
	In the city.	04:02:13
	Yeah, we actually talked to the library recently.	04:02:15
	And we're all talking about.	04:02:18
	Partnering on a like a grant that would provide.	04:02:20
	Chargers at the library parking lot, for example.	04:02:23
	So we're we're working on some of those things, this one just kind of.	04:02:26
	Wasn't the thing we were expecting to.	04:02:30
	To happen quite so quick.	04:02:33
	Are we moving to a non subsidy?	04:02:35
	So what we bring back rate options and it would be, you know, potentially the full cost recovery and then the council would have	04:02:39
	the choice of whether to subsidize that.	04:02:43
	But we plan to.	04:02:49
	We plan to recommend.	04:02:50
	Adjusting the rate because I think it is outdated at this point. Electricity is.	04:02:52
	Gone up quite a bit.	04:02:56
	So is there a means to recover your investment or is that?	04:02:59
	Yeah. If we don't get it grant funded, then you know building in the cost of that.	04:03:06
	OK.	04:03:11
	Mayor Pro Tem, did you have anything?	04:03:12
	OK, great.	04:03:14
	Madam Clerk, do we have any public comments?	04:03:16
	No public comments.	04:03:18
	Great, so we have before us a receive.	04:03:20
	An update regarding the EV chargers at City Hall potentially losing the ability to recover cost.	04:03:25
	Is there a motion and a second?	04:03:32
	To receive.	04:03:35
	Move to receive.	04:03:37
	2nd.	04:03:39
	Thank you.	04:03:41
	Is this an approval or just to receive the report? We were asking for that because how we said the others, Yeah. And you know,	04:03:45
	there's a few paths where we said, yeah, this could be just removing it. We're asking for approval to.	04:03:51
	That direction, to approve replacing the charger I would draw my motion.	04:03:58
	Move to approve.	04:04:02
	Thank you.	04:04:03
	Thank you any discussion.	04:04:05
	Madam Clerk, please take a vote all in favor.	04:04:08
	All opposed.	04:04:11
	Hearing none, motion passes unanimously.	04:04:13
	Great. Thank you. We'll move now to the city Manager. Comments and reports.	04:04:15
	Yes, I have a few.	04:04:19
	Few quick things. I think 1 is somehow a week from today is Memorial Day. It does not feel like.	04:04:21
	Like it's already Memorial Day.	04:04:30
	Right. Is that right? A week from today, yeah.	04:04:32
	And so.	04:04:34
	So a week from today, we are having our 2025 Memorial Day ceremony.	04:04:36
	At Port Hueneme Pier at 8:30 AM.	04:04:42
	People may remember this last year we had the first ever paddle out with our lifeguard and.	04:04:46
	Team and members of the public and so.	04:04:52
	We are.	04:04:55
	Planning to continue that tradition and and information will be going out on that.	04:04:56
	In the next day or two.	04:05:00
	So keep an eye on social media and.	04:05:04
	And our Facebook page for that information.	04:05:06
	We also are currently.	04:05:10
	Still accepting applications for the Veterans Advisory Ad Hoc Committee.	04:05:13
	We are accepting applications through 5:00 PM on June 2nd, 2025.	04:05:17
	I think we've heard a few people that were interested, but we typically get most of the applications in about the last week or so,	04:05:22
	so.	04:05:26
	Think we'll be getting applications for that?	04:05:30
	And then we wanted to highlight two upcoming.	04:05:35
	Event slash programs.	04:05:41
	We're holding a coffee with your city on Wednesday, June 11th at 9:00 AM.	04:05:43
	At Wednesday, June 11th, 9:00 AM to 10:00 AM at Anna Cappuccino.	04:05:49
	And so we're inviting everybody to come out to that event.	04:05:54
	And then?	04:05:59
	Council had approved.	04:06:00
	A new program.	04:06:02
	That's essentially a stem.	04:06:04
	Science Technology.	04:06:06
	I forgot what the E is. Science, technology? Is it experience, experiential? I'm not sure.	04:06:09
	But in mathematics.	04:06:14
	But STEM program.	04:06:17
	Camp and so we are launching that summer camp program.	04:06:20
	And so information just went up. I saw it on.	04:06:25
	Instagram and Facebook.	04:06:29
	For the program, $95 per week.	04:06:32
	For five to 12 year olds and the dates there of the different options.	04:06:35
	So we're excited about that program. I think we got good feedback that a lot of people were seeing.	04:06:40
	That it's something that has been.	04:06:47
	Um, wanted for a while, so we're hoping that.	04:06:50
	That, uh.	04:06:54
	Everybody's interested, so.	04:06:55
	That's available now.	04:06:57
	And then?	04:06:59
	Last the June 2nd, 2025 Agenda forecast.	04:07:00
	We expect to have presentations.	04:07:05
	1st is the Pride Month proclamation.	04:07:08
	2nd is the Army Corps of Engineers Birthday and Anniversary proclamation.	04:07:12
	And then we have public hearings.	04:07:17
	It's a heavy agenda, but it's sort of to be expected with the budget and budget related items. We'll have public hearings.	04:07:19
	For umm.	04:07:26
	The budget but this item listed above is actually a new state law requirement that each year before the city adopt A budget, the	04:07:27
	city has to give a.	04:07:31
	Status report on vacancies, recruitment and retention efforts.	04:07:35
	That's in response to.	04:07:39
	A lot of cities have really struggled to maintain staffing just like.	04:07:41
	If people remember after COVID.	04:07:46
	Private businesses had a hard time getting staffing.	04:07:49
	And so.	04:07:51
	There's actually a state law put into place that each city has to give an update on if you know how they recruit.	04:07:52
	Recruiting and how they can recruit.	04:07:58
	Better if they have a lot of vacancies.	04:08:00
	So that has to come forward before the budget. So we'll have that and then the budget.	04:08:04
	We're continuing the public. We've continued the public hearing for Emerald Perspective, so that'll be coming back.	04:08:10
	And then?	04:08:15
	We have our assessment districts.	04:08:17
	Item which comes with the budget every year.	04:08:19
	And then that last item is the parking study workshop.	04:08:22
	We had said.	04:08:26
	Last year when the Council approved.	04:08:28
	Have us working with the traffic engineer to do a parking study.	04:08:30
	We had said we'd do a workshop with.	04:08:34
	With the ideas that we come forward with. So we're planning to do that workshop on June 2nd.	04:08:37
	And that'll be that.	04:08:43
	Then the last step after that is after that workshop then.	04:08:45
	Actual those items will come to council for approval or.	04:08:49
	Or denial.	04:08:54
	So hopefully approvals, but.	04:08:55
	So full agenda, but a lot of that is related to the budget, so.	04:08:58
	That is the plan for June 2nd, and with that I'm happy to answer.	04:09:03
	Any questions?	04:09:06
	I just have one question, City Manager.	04:09:08
	There was a request for Juneteenth.	04:09:12
	Presentation. I believe it's the meeting. The meeting after this meeting is June 16th.	04:09:14
	OK.	04:09:21
	June 16th.	04:09:24
	I know there is a Juneteenth celebration.	04:09:25
	OK. You just want to make sure they get it or present. Last year I represented the city or we can present it there. Yeah.	04:09:28
	I will double check the 14th.	04:09:36
	OK, we'll double check. I thought we had communicated with them that that it would be on the.	04:09:38
	June 16th agenda. But if not, then it can be.	04:09:44
	There's room on this.	04:09:48
	Agenda to swap that so.	04:09:49
	Councilmember.	04:09:55
	Hernandez So is there a.	04:09:56
	Time that the.	04:09:58
	Pride flag is going to be raised on June 1st.	04:10:00
	Umm, whereby we can have.