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CITY COUNCIL CLOSED SESSION AGENDA/ CALL TO ORDER / ROLL CALL
PUBLIC COMMENT
CLOSED SESSION ITEMS A. CONFERENCE WITH LEGAL COUNSEL – ANTICIPATED LITIGATION
CITY COUNCIL REGULAR MEETING AGENDA
CALL TO ORDER / FLAG SALUTE/ ROLL CALL
INSPIRATION
CLOSED SESSION REPORT
PUBLIC COMMENT
AGENDA APPROVAL
PRESENTATIONS 1. POLICE DISPATCHER OF THE YEAR AWARD PRESENTED TO LINETTE ADAMS
PRESENTATIONS 2. EARTH DAY PROCLAMATION
PRESENTATIONS 3. ARBOR DAY PROCLAMATION
CONSENT CALENDAR
PUBLIC HEARINGS 7. APPROVAL OF A COASTAL DEVELOPMENT PERMIT FOR THE HUENEME BEACH PARK DUNE RESTORATION PROJECT AND DETERMINING THE PROJECT IS EXEMPT FROM CEQA (PROJECT NO. PHCD-25-1)
BUSINESS ITEMS 8. PORT CONVOY QUESTIONS AND RESPONSES
BUSINESS ITEMS 9. CONSIDERATON OF COMMUNITY BENEFIT FUND ALLOCATIONS FOR FISCAL YEAR (FY) 2025-2026 FUNDING CYCLE
BUSINESS ITEMS 10. RECOMMENDATION FOR CITY COUNCIL TO DIRECT STAFF TO DRAFT AN ORDINANCE RESTRICTING THE SALE AND DISTRIBUTION OF NITROUS OXIDE
BUSINESS ITEMS 11. BROADBAND MASTER PLAN UPDATE
CITY MANAGER COMMENTS AND REPORTS
COUNCILMEMBERS’ REPORTS AND COMMENTS
REQUEST FOR FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS
ADJOURNMENT

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	Welcome to the closed session portion of the City Council meeting. I am calling this meeting to order. The time is now 5:45 PM.	00:00:00
	Madam Clerk, can we get a roll call?	00:00:09
	Councilmember Goma here, Councilmember Hernandez here, Councilmember Perez here, Mayor Pro Tem Lopez here, and Mayor McQueen	00:00:11
	Lashawn here.	00:00:15
	Thank you. Will now hear public comments. Public comments are limited to 3 minutes. Madam Clerk, do we have any public comments?	00:00:19
	No public comments for closed session.	00:00:25
	Thank you, Madam City Attorney, please read the closed session item into the record.	00:00:28
	Thank you, Madam Mayor.	00:00:33
	We have one matter going into closed session. It is under anticipated litigation.	00:00:34
	Pursuant to Government Code section 54956.9.	00:00:39
	D4.	00:00:44
	The number of potential cases is 1.	00:00:45
	And based on existing facts and circumstances, the legislative body of the local agency has decided to initiate.	00:00:48
	Or is deciding whether to initiate litigation.	00:00:55
	At the conclusion of the closed session.	00:00:59
	And the commencement of the General session.	00:01:01
	To the extent there's any reportable action, I will report out.	00:01:04
	Thank you.	00:01:07
	Are there any?	00:01:09
	Conflicts of interest by our Council members.	00:01:10
	Yes.	00:01:14
	I I live approximately 984 feet from said property and how to.	00:01:15
	Extreme.	00:01:21
	Caution. I think it's best that I recuse myself from this.	00:01:23
	Great. Thank you.	00:01:27
	If not now, we'll go ahead and recess to closed session. The time is now 546.	00:01:31
	Welcome to the City Council regular meeting. I'm calling this meeting to order the time. It's now 630.	00:45:08
	Please stand and join us and Mayor Pro Tem for the flag salute.	00:45:14
	OK, hand over your heart.	00:45:20
	It's flagged.	00:45:23
	Ready go.	00:45:25
	I pledge allegiance to the flag.	00:45:27
	Of the United States of America.	00:45:29
	And to the Republic for which it stands.	00:45:31
	One nation under God.	00:45:34
	Indivisible with liberty and justice for all.	00:45:36
	Thank you, Mayor Pro Tem.	00:45:43
	All right, Madam Clerk, please take role.	00:45:46
	Councilmember Gama.	00:45:49
	Here, Councilmember Hernandez. Here Councilmember Perez. Here Mayor Pro Tem Lopez.	00:45:51
	Here and Mayor McQueen Lejeune.	00:45:57
	Here, and tonight, I have the awesome responsibility to present.	00:45:59
	Um, the inspiration.	00:46:06
	And so I'll do that now.	00:46:09
	So we all we just came back from.	00:46:13
	Holy Week.	00:46:17
	Good Friday.	00:46:18
	And so whether you observed?	00:46:19
	Or commemorated Good Friday.	00:46:22
	Also known again as Holy Week.	00:46:24
	A Holy Friday. Great Friday.	00:46:26
	Friday of passion of the Lord.	00:46:29
	Are there any other?	00:46:32
	Names that you give Good Friday.	00:46:33
	Anyone.	00:46:36
	Any other titles you put on Good Friday?	00:46:38
	Some of the others include Crucifix, Crucifixion Day.	00:46:41
	Solemn fast day.	00:46:45
	Friday of Ember week.	00:46:47
	Or Friday before Easter.	00:46:49
	Or Friday.	00:46:51
	In Holy Week.	00:46:53
	So whatever you call it.	00:46:54
	If you observe it or not.	00:46:56
	It's a solemn Christian holy day commemorating the crucifixion of Jesus and his death at Calvary.	00:46:58
	Ultimately.	00:47:05
	It's a day of reflection.	00:47:06
	And remembrance.	00:47:08
	For many in our community.	00:47:10
	It marks a time when we pause.	00:47:12
	To honor the sacrifice.	00:47:14
	Compassion.	00:47:17
	And hope.	00:47:18
	At the heart of our Easter story.	00:47:19
	So as we move forward from Good Friday.	00:47:23
	We should all look forward to the promise.	00:47:26
	A renewal and new beginning.	00:47:28
	Whether you observe Easter.	00:47:31
	Are preparing for spring.	00:47:33
	Or simply spending time with loved ones.	00:47:35
	I encourage all of us.	00:47:38
	As we move forward.	00:47:40
	To carry with us the values of kindness.	00:47:41
	Resilience.	00:47:45
	And Unity.	00:47:47
	Let this season be a reminder.	00:47:48
	That even.	00:47:51
	After the darkest moments.	00:47:53
	Light returns.	00:47:55
	With this.	00:47:57
	Strength.	00:48:00
	And hope.	00:48:01
	To each of you.	00:48:02
	And your.	00:48:03
	Whether near or far.	00:48:05
	Thank you.	00:48:06
	All right, so now we're going to have our city attorney to give.	00:48:12
	A closed session report.	00:48:17
	Thank you, Madam Mayor.	00:48:18
	On a vote of four to zero, with Councilmember Gama having recused himself.	00:48:19
	The City Council did provide direction to initiate.	00:48:25
	In action and that the action the defendants and the other particulars shall.	00:48:29
	Once formally commenced, be disclosed to any person upon inquiry.	00:48:34
	Unless to do so would jeopardize service of process on the adverse parties.	00:48:39
	Or the ability to conclude existing settlement negotiations.	00:48:43
	To the agency's advantage.	00:48:48
	Thank you, City Manager, I mean city attorney. I will now move to public comments.	00:48:51
	These are the public comments not pertaining to the agenda items.	00:48:56
	Public comments will be limited to 3 minutes.	00:49:00
	Madam Clerk, do we have any public comment? Yes, we do, Mayor.	00:49:03
	1st is Javier Garnica.	00:49:07
	Hello, City Council members, members of the public. My name is Javier Garnica.	00:49:16
	I am the youth organizer, youth organizer with Future Leaders of America. I'm just here to extend.	00:49:22
	An invitation to all of you. To all.	00:49:29
	The public We will be Fla, with the collaboration of the Ventura County Public Health Department and Ventura County Behavioral	00:49:31
	Health.	00:49:35
	And some other local organizations we will be.	00:49:40
	Hosting a tobacco forum. This.	00:49:44
	Next Wednesday, April 30th.	00:49:47
	It's going to be from our resource table is from four, starts at 4:30 and the program starts at 5:30.	00:49:50
	So.	00:49:57
	We'll be having presentations on the matter.	00:49:58
	Local experts.	00:50:03
	Are going to be giving updates responsible?	00:50:05
	Responsible tobacco and cannabis policy efforts across Ventura County.	00:50:09
	So we just want to extend the invitation to everyone.	00:50:12
	Our youth along with bright youth as well are going to be presenting and and giving updates on their.	00:50:15
	Policy efforts.	00:50:23
	Not just here in.	00:50:24
	Enemy and Oxnard, but also in Carpinteria.	00:50:26
	Again, it's it's happening.	00:50:29
	Upcoming April 30th, Wednesday.	00:50:32
	From 4:30 to 7:30.	00:50:36
	I left some Flyers for everyone.	00:50:39
	If you would like to RSVP and join us.	00:50:41
	You can do so.	00:50:44
	Using the QR code.	00:50:46
	As well, the sign up link will be on our link tree on our Instagram.	00:50:48
	Llama under score pH.	00:50:56
	And yeah, or for more info you can also reach out to.	00:50:58
	Smoke free.	00:51:05
	Smoke free vcaventuracounty.org which is the e-mail.	00:51:06
	Of umm, uh.	00:51:10
	BC Ash, which is a Ventura County coalition that focuses on tobacco prevention.	00:51:12
	But yeah, that's pretty much it. Thanks so much.	00:51:17
	Thank you.	00:51:20
	Becky Bruning.	00:51:22
	Good evening, Mayor, Mayor Pro Tem, council staff.	00:51:33
	An audience. I'm here tonight representing Rock up the Outdoors.	00:51:36
	We are having our family fish day.	00:51:41
	This Sunday, out at the end of the pier from 8:00 to 11:30.	00:51:44
	We furnish everything and it's free.	00:51:48
	So you have no excuse for not being there.	00:51:51
	We also are having our annual fundraiser dinner.	00:51:54
	On June 1st.	00:51:58
	And if you're interested, I do have tickets.	00:52:00
	Ned.	00:52:06
	Good evening, Mayor, good evening City Council members and.	00:52:12
	City Manager.	00:52:16
	I have a couple of announcements. My name is Ned Branch. I'm the deputy director for the Ventura County Library.	00:52:17
	And there are two important things that have happened since the last we addressed you. One is we have.	00:52:23
	Finally appointed someone to fill the position that Tim Fergal vacated at late last year.	00:52:28
	The lady's name is Anne Hoja and will be the East Region City Librarian, including the.	00:52:34
	The Pruder library here in Port Hueneme.	00:52:41
	And for about over a year or so has been the director at our Oak Park library.	00:52:45
	Prior to that, she was the library director at the Climber Library in Pocono Pines, PA.	00:52:51
	The library director at the South County Library in Bellport, NY.	00:52:57
	Library director at the Pittston Area Memorial Library in Pittston, PA.	00:53:02
	And the Youth Services librarian at both the Marianne Sutherland Kirby Library in Mountaintop, Pennsylvania.	00:53:07
	And to bathe you.	00:53:14
	Free Library in Bayville, NY.	00:53:16
	And has also worked as a school media librarian.	00:53:18
	She comes to us holding a master's degree in library science from Clarion University of Pennsylvania and a bachelor's degree in	00:53:23
	education from Long Island University.	00:53:27
	So as you can see, she has a lot of experience, the wealth of experience she has.	00:53:32
	She would have been here tonight to join me and I would have had the opportunity to introduce her to you.	00:53:37
	But she's rather busy right now.	00:53:42
	Because as to my second point.	00:53:44
	As you probably know, on May the 3rd we'll be having the grand reopening of the Radi Pruder Library here in Port Hueneme.	00:53:46
	So we're a bit less than two weeks away. So she's she's a busy lady right now. So we'll have the opportunity after the reopening	00:53:53
	to bring her here to meet you. But those of you who.	00:53:59
	Can come on May the 3rd and I'm one of the reasons I'm here is to personally invite you.	00:54:04
	To the reopening, which will be from 11:00.	00:54:09
	To one on Saturday May the 3rd.	00:54:12
	I believe our mayor will be addressing the the the crowd and at the same time there will also be the official unveiling of the new	00:54:15
	mural.	00:54:19
	That adorns the W wall of the library.	00:54:24
	Was, I think, completed in late November, very early December.	00:54:28
	But it's getting its coming out party.	00:54:33
	May the 3rd.	00:54:35
	Also, thanks to the city staff for doing a great job on resurfacing the library parking lot.	00:54:36
	And they're in the midst of landscaping it as well. Not as we speak. I think they knocked off for the evening, but they're,	00:54:42
	they're, they're busily doing that. So again, we hope to see you all there on May the 3rd from 11 to 1. Mr. Softy will be there.	00:54:50
	So don't pass up that opportunity. So.	00:54:58
	Thank you.	00:55:01
	Thank you so much.	00:55:02
	Mayor, that concludes public comment.	00:55:04
	Great. Thank you so much. I just wanted to say to Mr. Branch before he leaves, I got an opportunity to meet.	00:55:06
	I'm gonna say I don't can't pronounce her last name, but Miss Ann at the extravaganza.	00:55:11
	It was really nice meeting her, so we're excited that she's here with us. Thank you.	00:55:16
	Thank you so much.	00:55:20
	OK. So we're going to move on to the agenda approval.	00:55:22
	May I have a motion and a second to approve the agenda?	00:55:27
	Move to approve second.	00:55:31
	Right, Madam Clerk, all in favor.	00:55:33
	Aye, all opposed.	00:55:36
	Hearing none, motion passes unanimously.	00:55:37
	Thank you. Do we have any members of the Council with conflicts of interest?	00:55:40
	To disclose regarding any agenda item.	00:55:45
	OK. Then we'll move on to presentations.	00:55:51
	I'd like to welcome Chief Federico.	00:55:54
	To introduce the first presentation.	00:55:57
	Good evening everyone. This will be a presentation for our 2025 Dispatcher of the Year.	00:56:06
	Next to me.	00:56:14
	It is with great pride and sincere appreciation that I stand before you today to recognize a truly exceptional member of the Port	00:56:21
	Roy Neme Police Department.	00:56:25
	Lynette Adams, who has been named this year's Dispatcher of the Year.	00:56:30
	Yeah, she has a big fat club.	00:56:35
	Lynette joined our department in 2000 and over the past 25 years she has exemplified what it means.	00:56:40
	To serve with.	00:56:46
	Professionalism, Reliability.	00:56:47
	And compassion.	00:56:49
	Prior to her time with us, Lynette spent two years with the Ochsner Police Department.	00:56:52
	Bringing her total law enforcement service to an impressive 27 years of service.	00:56:56
	And like many of us, she started as like, a teenager over there, so, you know.	00:57:02
	The years mean nothing.	00:57:06
	27 years of service.	00:57:08
	In that time, Lynette has become a cornerstone of our communications team. She is calm.	00:57:10
	She's a steady voice behind the scenes.	00:57:15
	During some of the most critical moments.	00:57:17
	Whether it's guiding the public through an emergency or supporting our officers in the field with clarity and precision.	00:57:20
	Her ability.	00:57:26
	To remain composed under pressure combined with her procedural knowledge.	00:57:29
	Has earned her the utmost respect of her peers and the gratitude of our entire department.	00:57:34
	Beyond her exceptional skillset, Lynette has taken on the role of mentor and leader as a former senior records technician.	00:57:40
	In the department and a dispatch certified training officer.	00:57:47
	She's invested in the growth and success of the new dispatchers.	00:57:51
	She's a.	00:57:54
	Tenured trainer in dispatch and has trained a lot of folks.	00:57:56
	Including new officers when they come on.	00:58:00
	Or maybe even the chief when he came back and sit there and learn some of the stuff about the new CAD system.	00:58:02
	However, Lynette.	00:58:11
	Is more than her professional accomplishments.	00:58:12
	She is a proud mother to her son, Brandon.	00:58:17
	Who currently serves in the United States Marine Corps?	00:58:20
	He's also a former police explorer.	00:58:23
	With us here. So I'd like to think maybe the police explorers.	00:58:26
	And mom really helped.	00:58:29
	Get this kid squared away.	00:58:31
	And we're very proud to have him.	00:58:33
	Deployed as a as a United States Marine.	00:58:37
	She also eagerly awaits the arrival.	00:58:41
	Of her first granddaughter.	00:58:44
	We're also very proud of Brandon for doing that such a young age this July.	00:58:48
	Her commitment to both her career and her family is truly inspiring.	00:58:53
	But I do have to say.	00:58:57
	The flowers are over here.	00:59:01
	Brandon reached out to make sure you had the flowers come and those are from him.	00:59:03
	For her unwavering dedication, her excellence and service, and the vital role she plays in the safety and success of our	00:59:14
	department and our community.	00:59:17
	It is our distinct honor. Recognized Lynette Adams as a 2025 Dispatcher of the Year.	00:59:22
	Yeah.	00:59:27
	Please.	00:59:34
	Go ahead.	00:59:35
	Any council members? Do you have anything you'd like to share? Yes.	00:59:37
	So our dispatchers do not get enough recognition, appreciation, support. We know that your job is 100% necessary for our officers	00:59:41
	to be safe and to be able to do their job appropriately.	00:59:47
	Everyone works together as a team and.	00:59:53
	You don't get enough.	00:59:55
	Recognition and I think we need to start.	00:59:57
	Taking more time to appreciate the job of a dispatcher, which is very difficult. You're the first line.	00:59:59
	That comes in.	01:00:05
	Any call stressful call, suicide call, you know, and you do a great job of handling the community and you make sure that our	01:00:07
	officers are safe because they need you to be able to dispatch.	01:00:12
	You know that information to them, so I appreciate you. I know that you have kept my husband safe, so I appreciate that.	01:00:17
	From a personal note.	01:00:23
	All the times that I've heard all the stories of what happened, the PD I've had, I've had the pleasure of sitting in.	01:00:25
	The PD.	01:00:30
	In the dispatch and watching the amazing you guys answer the public phone in addition to the 911 calls.	01:00:31
	Grand Central Station with one with a one man army.	01:00:39
	So we appreciate you.	01:00:43
	Lynette, I just want to thank you for your 30 years of public safety service. That's incredible. You don't look a day over 21.	01:00:49
	Want to congratulate you on your family.	01:00:58
	Appreciate your husband, make sure you thank him for his service.	01:01:01
	Your son.	01:01:06
	We appreciate your husband too.	01:01:07
	For having a son.	01:01:09
	But and your granddaughter, but most importantly.	01:01:11
	In the 30 years or 27 years that you've been here in our city, I'm sure you've dealt with me a couple times. And you know, there's	01:01:16
	been a couple like crazy things that I called in. And yes, the dispatchers are always so helpful and calming down. I need to get	01:01:22
	information and I really appreciate the fact that you're there.	01:01:28
	And you made our community better. Thank you.	01:01:35
	Miss Adams, thank you so much for your service of 25 years. I'm.	01:01:39
	Don't know that we've ever met over all this time but.	01:01:43
	I'm glad you're here and.	01:01:46
	We hope that you stay with us another 25 years. Thank you so much.	01:01:47
	Incorrect. Congratulations, you know.	01:01:52
	Just the police chief stated that you're the calm.	01:01:54
	Behind that.	01:01:57
	That stressful call.	01:01:58
	You're training your fellow subordinates, which is.	01:02:02
	Awesome. Umm.	01:02:08
	Congratulations. Thank you for your service.	01:02:09
	Yeah, I'll just say Ditto.	01:02:12
	And I'm looking behind you at your family, and there's someone in the black sweater with the pink.	01:02:14
	Your sister and I think she's as happy as you are today.	01:02:20
	Yes, yes, we see that, we see that. And so thank you and and thank you for being a service member, Mom.	01:02:25
	That's a that's a huge role as well.	01:02:33
	And so you're here at work, and then you have your son, right?	01:02:36
	And so we just thank you for all the service that you're providing to us and that you're providing to your son while he's	01:02:40
	providing to us.	01:02:43
	So we appreciate that. Thank you so much.	01:02:47
	I think we're going to take a picture.	01:02:48
	We can take 1 and you can invite your family as well.	01:02:54
	Family, we're going to take one and then if you all want to come up, you can come up.	01:02:58
	123.	01:03:05
	Everyone, come on.	01:03:16
	There we go. OK.	01:03:42
	And I'm sure the chief will get them.	01:03:52
	OK. And we have.	01:04:02
	Two proclamations that we're going to read on the day, as the first one is the Earth Day and the second one is Arbor Day. And	01:04:06
	while we're reading, we're going to ask that Mister.	01:04:11
	Gable comes up. Cable comes up. He's the deputy public works director.	01:04:17
	City Engineer.	01:04:21
	So we're going to read the proclamations and then we're going to turn it over to you.	01:04:22
	Thank you.	01:04:27
	Earth Day is April 22nd, 2025. Today is April 21st, 2025.	01:04:29
	And if you didn't know, every Saturday is Earth Day at Winami Beach Cleanup. And so if you ever want to participate.	01:04:36
	We got the buckets, we got the sticks. We've got a hand washing station come down at 8:30. We quit at 10.	01:04:42
	OK, here we go. Proclamation Earth Day, April 22nd.	01:04:48
	2025.	01:04:52
	Whereas the first Earth Day was enacted in 1970 and engaged over 20 million Americans to advocate for a cleaner environment and.	01:04:54
	Whereas Earth Day is an annual reminder.	01:05:03
	Of the constant need for environmental stewardship and sustainability efforts, and whereas it is understood that same	01:05:06
	sustainability will only be achieved by meeting the needs of the present.	01:05:11
	Without compromising the needs of future generations and.	01:05:17
	Whereas humankind is currently facing tremendous global challenges.	01:05:21
	Among them.	01:05:26
	The need to manage an increased amount of water and whereas people of this earth from all walks of life desire.	01:05:27
	To a healthy environment and pollution has been associated with several health issues affecting the general population.	01:05:35
	And whereas the city supports projects that demonstrate and encourages energy and water conservation, recycling of solid waste.	01:05:41
	Sustainability and the usage of renewable energy.	01:05:49
	End, whereas it is essential to involve.	01:05:53
	The community in the design and implementation of solutions for pressing environmental issues and reducing pollution.	01:05:57
	Now therefore be it proclaimed that the City Council of the City of Port 1 Amy does hereby have the distinct honor of proclaiming	01:06:04
	April 22nd, 2025.	01:06:10
	As Earth Day.	01:06:16
	Throughout the city of Port Hueneme.	01:06:17
	And encourages all citizens, businesses and institutions to celebrate the earth and promote the protection of our environment.	01:06:19
	Charles.	01:06:28
	Yeah, go ahead. Oh, we got one more.	01:06:32
	Good evening. I have the pleasure of reading the proclamation for Arbor Day, which is the fourth Wednesday in April.	01:06:36
	WHEREAS, in 1872, J Sterling Morton proposed to the Nebraska Board of Agriculture that a special day be set aside for the planting	01:06:41
	of trees. And whereas the holiday called Arbor Day was first observed with the planning of more than a million trees in Nebraska.	01:06:49
	And whereas Arbor Day is now observed throughout the nation and the world.	01:06:56
	And whereas trees can reduce wind and water erosion of our precious topsoil, lower our heating and cooling costs, moderate the	01:07:00
	temperature, clean the air, produce oxygen and provide.	01:07:06
	Habitat for wildlife.	01:07:12
	And whereas trees are a renewable resource, giving us paper, wood for homes, fuel for our fires and countless other wood products.	01:07:14
	And whereas trees in our city increase property values, enhance the economic vitality of business areas, and beautify our	01:07:21
	community. And whereas trees, wherever they are planted, are a source of joy and spiritual renewal.	01:07:29
	Now therefore be it proclaimed that the City Council of the City of Port Hueneme does hereby proclaim the 4th.	01:07:36
	Wednesday in April and Arbor Day in the city of Port Hueneme. Furthermore, all citizens are urged to celebrate Arbor Day, support	01:07:42
	efforts to protect our trees and Woodlands, and to plant and care for trees to gladden the heart and promote the well-being of	01:07:49
	this and future generations. Proclaim this 21st day of April, 2025.	01:07:56
	Arbor Day.	01:08:03
	Thank you.	01:08:06
	Good evening everyone. We will be celebrating both Arbor Day and Earth Day, and we invite the general public to join us.	01:08:07
	At Bulker Park, we're going to plant 3 coastal live oaks.	01:08:14
	At 11 AM this Wednesday, April 23rd.	01:08:19
	And we encourage the public to join us then.	01:08:22
	In addition to our regular tree replacement throughout the city, we're going to plant 2 coastal live oaks at Miranda Park.	01:08:25
	This is a requirement of the Tree City USA so we can keep our membership there.	01:08:32
	And, umm.	01:08:36
	Again, we invite the public and we thank the City Council for the support.	01:08:38
	For these events.	01:08:42
	Thank you.	01:08:43
	Not we get a motion and a second.	01:09:02
	I move that we approve the consent agenda.	01:09:05
	2nd.	01:09:07
	Great. Madam Clerk, please take a vote.	01:09:09
	All in favor, aye?	01:09:11
	All opposed.	01:09:14
	Hearing none, motion passes unanimously.	01:09:15
	Great. Thank you.	01:09:18
	Will now move on to #7 public hearing approval of the Coastal Development permit for the Winnemi Beach Park Dune restoration	01:09:19
	project and determining the project is exempt.	01:09:24
	From Sequa.	01:09:30
	Madam Clerk, do you have proof of publication as required by law and a complete file of reports and exhibits? Yes, Madam Mayor.	01:09:31
	Great. Thank you. Will staff please present the report.	01:09:39
	Yes, good evening, Mayor.	01:09:45
	Members of council.	01:09:47
	Staff and audience.	01:09:48
	Tony Stewart, the community and economic development director.	01:09:50
	And as soon as we get the presentation loaded up here.	01:09:53
	Should be a very short 1.	01:09:58
	This is pretty much just procedural.	01:10:00
	Back in December of last year.	01:10:03
	You actually approved a proposal by Ventura Surfrider Foundation for a dune restoration and maintenance project.	01:10:06
	At the eastern portion of Winemi Beach Park.	01:10:12
	As a reminder, this area in red is the area where the project would take place.	01:10:17
	And it will basically include removal of non-native vegetation within that area where we have the ice plant and whatnot.	01:10:23
	As well as to create a wider dune area to enhance native habitat and increase the resilience as sea levels rise for the community.	01:10:31
	And so like I said, short presentation here, the project is exempt from SQL California Environmental Quality Act for Section	01:10:42
	15307, which establishes rules and procedures for to permit the restoration of the natural environment.	01:10:49
	And there will be no direct cost required. As we discussed, there will be some ask for parking for the volunteers as well as the	01:10:56
	waste bins during the the cleanup events.	01:11:01
	However, those would be the only costs associated with this for the city. The Surf Rider Foundation will rely on volunteers and	01:11:06
	funding for the rest of the project.	01:11:10
	And so with that, just a reminder, the resolution for this project does contain several conditions of approval. These include	01:11:15
	protecting the natural environment during the the restoration activities.	01:11:21
	As well as to ensure continued public access to the Wine Amy Beach Park.	01:11:27
	To not block ongoing maintenance activities that are public works and other.	01:11:32
	Entities perform.	01:11:37
	As well as to not block or prevent any future development of Hueneme Beach park up amenities as shown in our Master Plan for Parks	01:11:39
	and Recreation.	01:11:44
	And so with that, staff's recommendation is to open the public hearing and take testimonial and documentary evidence to close the	01:11:50
	hearing and consider that evidence.	01:11:55
	To adopt the resolution.	01:12:00
	CDP uh.	01:12:02
	The coastal development permit for the restoration project and to take additional required or related action as made to be	01:12:04
	desirable.	01:12:08
	That concludes my presentation and here to answer any questions. We also have Joan Tharp here with the Surfrider if you have	01:12:12
	questions of her.	01:12:15
	Thank you.	01:12:20
	Thank you, Council. Do you have any questions? We'll only take questions at this time. We'll have discussion later.	01:12:20
	Councilmember Hernandez.	01:12:27
	Thank you, Mayor. Thank you, Mr. Stewart and Miss Tharp for this working on this project.	01:12:29
	My question has to do with.	01:12:35
	Determining whether this dune restoration plan is going to have how you will measure its desired effect.	01:12:38
	Will you be monitoring?	01:12:44
	The beaches to in order to tell whether or not it's actually doing what it's supposed to do in terms of protecting.	01:12:47
	The sand on our beach.	01:12:54
	And, umm.	01:12:56
	Well, at this point, why don't I go ahead and call up Miss Tharp and she should be able to answer that question for you.	01:12:58
	Yes. So as part of the plan we had.	01:13:07
	Coastal restoration consultants do up the initial plan.	01:13:11
	And we will have them come out and monitor yearly so they'll do their measurements to look at.	01:13:16
	Any elevation changes and the success of.	01:13:23
	Of the receding of the non-native or of the native species.	01:13:26
	OK, great.	01:13:31
	There's going to be great success. Have you considered other areas of our beach that might be eligible for this kind of project?	01:13:32
	Yeah, actually the entire.	01:13:39
	Promenade, I actually spoke to somebody who works in public works.	01:13:41
	And it's my understanding that there is an issue with sand blowing which is a maintenance issue, so.	01:13:46
	Continuing the dunes farther down would be.	01:13:52
	Doable and great and.	01:13:55
	Surfrider would be would love to be involved in that if if necessary or if wanted.	01:13:57
	Great. Well, thank you again to you and Surfrider and the coastal restoration consultants for.	01:14:03
	Good work and thank you Mr.	01:14:08
	Are there any other questions down here, Mayor Pro Tem?	01:14:11
	So I know the last time you presented.	01:14:14
	You spoke of signage.	01:14:18
	Are is the city gonna see?	01:14:20
	Signage looks like prior to.	01:14:23
	Yes, we, I think we're in the process of doing a mock up and we'll have city approve it. We'd like to have the city logo on there.	01:14:25
	Umm and yeah, so you'll definitely get an opportunity to take a look at that.	01:14:34
	Thank you.	01:14:41
	Great.	01:14:43
	If there are no other questions, we're going to open open the public hearing for public comments.	01:14:46
	Madam Clerk, are there any public comments? No public comments. Great. Then we'll go ahead and close the public hearing.	01:14:50
	And so we'll move what we have in front of us is.	01:14:57
	The adoption of the resolution of the City Council.	01:15:02
	City of Port Hueneme, CA granting approval for the coastal development permit.	01:15:05
	For the Wine Amy Beach Park Dune Restoration project located at 550 E Surfside Drive.	01:15:09
	And determining the project is exempt from SEQUA and take additional related action that may be desirable.	01:15:16
	Is there a motion and a second?	01:15:22
	Move to approve.	01:15:25
	2nd.	01:15:26
	Great. Is there any discussion?	01:15:29
	No discussion. Madam Clerk, please take a vote.	01:15:33
	Councilmember Gama.	01:15:36
	Yes, Councilmember Hernandez. Yes, Councilmember Perez. Yes, Mayor Pro Tem Lopez and Mayor McQueen Lejean. Motion passes	01:15:38
	unanimously.	01:15:43
	Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Stewart.	01:15:49
	We're going to move on to our business items, business item number 8.	01:15:51
	Port Convoy questions and responses.	01:15:56
	Staff will present the report.	01:16:01
	Thank you, Madam Mayor.	01:16:03
	Mayor Pro Tem council members.	01:16:05
	Staff and audience in attendance.	01:16:08
	It is recommended that the City Council consider the attached exhibit, which is going to be displayed on the.	01:16:11
	On the boards.	01:16:18
	And this contains responses from the port.	01:16:21
	To questions that the City Council had to the port.	01:16:24
	Regarding convoys, trucks and to provide such direction as appropriate.	01:16:27
	You will recall that on December 16, 2024.	01:16:32
	I provided a synopsis of the series of agreements.	01:16:36
	Between the city and the port entered into over a period of 36 years.	01:16:39
	These multiple agreements are for the stated purpose of providing the city a mechanism.	01:16:43
	To offset the cost of improvements and maintenance to city infrastructure.	01:16:48
	As a result of port activities.	01:16:53
	Essentially, the port provides certain payments to the city to help offset the cost of Rd. maintenance and police services.	01:16:56
	And to provide funding for certain public works projects and improvements that jointly serve.	01:17:04
	The city and the port's operations.	01:17:10
	Following the meeting on December 16, the council asked certain questions of the port.	01:17:13
	Regarding these agreements.	01:17:18
	On April.	01:17:20
	We received some responses from the port to those questions.	01:17:23
	And then again on April 14, there was a clarification to the original April 7, 2025 response.	01:17:28
	And then again, I believe it was April 19th.	01:17:35
	We received a subsequent response.	01:17:38
	The questions and responses are on each slide of the exhibit.	01:17:42
	And I'm gonna ask.	01:17:47
	The city manager to help me with the.	01:17:49
	Because I'm really bad at that.	01:17:51
	And I did not want to editorialize their responses at all, so this is exactly what was.	01:17:57
	Responded to.	01:18:03
	We had a question.	01:18:05
	On the history of the term convoy, particularly how it was defined and when how it was determined.	01:18:07
	That the trucks carrying cars would not be part of a convoy.	01:18:13
	Some basic info to help and explanation as to whether trucks.	01:18:16
	Were in use at the time that the term convoy was implemented.	01:18:20
	If trucks were referred to in any other way.	01:18:24
	Or if they came later for example.	01:18:26
	So the initial response was at the time of the 2015 settlement agreement.	01:18:30
	The definition of convoy as agreed upon by the parties and reflected in their.	01:18:35
	Continued course of conduct since that time.	01:18:40
	Has only met automobiles, which excludes trucks.	01:18:43
	Then later, by contrast, the trucks are referred to in other parts of the agreement that are not related to convoy payments.	01:18:47
	For example, heavy trucks and construction trucks.	01:18:55
	Those are in the 1987 agreement.	01:18:59
	The next question.	01:19:05
	Was one thing.	01:19:08
	One thing that wasn't mentioned yesterday that may be helpful for the council to understand.	01:19:11
	Is if trucks and their vehicles aren't counted as vehicles.	01:19:16
	I'm assuming, but want to confirm that they're counted.	01:19:19
	Under one of the other methods, agreements slash agreements.	01:19:22
	The response was trucks were deliberately excluded from the 2015 settlement negotiations.	01:19:26
	And are not part of any agreement.	01:19:32
	Trucks do not go through Winami Gate and go instead through the Navy side entrance and exit through the Joint use agreement with	01:19:35
	the Navy.	01:19:39
	Those trucks do not drive down Wine Amy Rd. and therefore do not use public infrastructure, only private.	01:19:44
	Our course of conduct throughout the history of these agreements does not count trucks.	01:19:50
	Under any method.	01:19:54
	Instead, the agreements regulated the manner of travel for trucks.	01:19:56
	We also had a question.	01:20:03
	The Council had a question regarding the history.	01:20:05
	Regarding the formulas and how those amounts were arrived at.	01:20:08
	I can't do math.	01:20:12
	Can I just ask one thing? Just the process?	01:20:14
	Question. Umm.	01:20:17
	So.	01:20:18
	We're reading a whole lot.	01:20:20
	Right. And I know there's questions.	01:20:22
	Or comments.	01:20:25
	Do you want us to wait to the very end?	01:20:28
	To ask questions.	01:20:32
	I would suggest so because the other thing I was going to note also is that we also have been informed by the port that.	01:20:34
	One of their attorneys is here today and can answer or can speak further on this.	01:20:42
	So one suggestion I would have is.	01:20:47
	City attorney can provide what was the written responses and then we can give the.	01:20:49
	The ports attorney an opportunity to provide any more information, answer any questions and then.	01:20:54
	And then we can.	01:21:01
	Get into the council questions. Great.	01:21:02
	Right. Thank you.	01:21:05
	An additional reason I I believe for.	01:21:07
	Holding off on your questions, is that in later slides there were clarifications to the earlier responses. So that may answer some	01:21:10
	of your questions. Great. Thank you.	01:21:14
	All right, question #3 was.	01:21:20
	This was the math question history regarding the formulas and how those amounts were arrived at.	01:21:22
	And what were those numbers intended to represent at the time?	01:21:28
	.2719 when converted to an annualized basis.	01:21:32
	Is intended to reflect.	01:21:36
	3.33% of the port's gross operating revenues.	01:21:38
	And the response was these numbers were reached through mutual settlement negotiation of the parties.	01:21:42
	And while the rationale behind why the city originally proposed those numbers for the settlement agreements.	01:21:48
	Is less clear.	01:21:54
	The intent as stated in Section 4 of the 1987 Agreement.	01:21:56
	Was to mitigate the impacts to the district's current and future operations at the port.	01:22:01
	And my recollection is is that the.	01:22:07
	CFO.	01:22:11
	Was here at that meeting and did provide some clarification.	01:22:12
	As to how those numbers were reached.	01:22:16
	To recollection.	01:22:19
	All right, the next question was less important, but it was asked.	01:22:20
	There was a question about whether the language regarding sale of water.	01:22:23
	During a water shortage has been implemented and do you have any history on that?	01:22:27
	The response was this is a reference to Section 15 of the 1987 agreement.	01:22:33
	And it provides that the port is prohibited from selling water.	01:22:38
	To any entity or person other than to vessels, import.	01:22:42
	Or tenants for human consumption or sanitary purposes.	01:22:45
	During times of water shortage as declared by the city.	01:22:49
	And this clause is only triggered in the event of the city's declaration of a water shortage.	01:22:53
	The next page is a clarification from.	01:23:03
	I believe it was from Ruben Duran, council for the port.	01:23:08
	And he asked to clarify one of the points below from his e-mail of a couple days prior.	01:23:11
	Which we've just gone over.	01:23:17
	And it says here the 2015 settlement agreement and the three underlying agreements that were at the heart of the dispute.	01:23:20
	Between our respective clients at the time.	01:23:26
	Does not purport to address truck travel out of the port.	01:23:29
	An issue where convoy fees for car cargo.	01:23:33
	Traveled down Waeneme Rd.	01:23:36
	New vehicles coming off of vessels did not at that time, nor do they now.	01:23:38
	Have license plates issued by the California DMV.	01:23:43
	Those cars are cargo and the short trip down wine Amy Rd. to the various vehicle processing facilities facilities did and does	01:23:46
	result in wear and tear on when Amy Rd.	01:23:52
	The 2015 settlement agreement, excuse me, the 2015 settlement served to resolve the cities dispute with the port about what the	01:23:58
	convoy fees for the cargo.	01:24:03
	The cars were under the underlying agreements.	01:24:08
	And to essentially legalize that travel down the city streets.	01:24:11
	Ornami Rd.	01:24:14
	On the other hand.	01:24:17
	Cars, trucks and other vehicles coming out of the port through the Navy base onto either Sunkist Road or North Ventura Rd.	01:24:18
	Are not governed by any of the agreements.	01:24:26
	Cargo leaving the base is from a tenant at the base.	01:24:29
	Like a grocery store on base, for example.	01:24:32
	They mentioned Clovis.	01:24:35
	Clovis is not a port tenant at that point.	01:24:37
	But rather a Navy based tenant.	01:24:40
	And to emphasize the point, neither the underlying agreements.	01:24:42
	Nor the 2015 settlement agreement governed Navy based tenants.	01:24:46
	Finally, the port generally does not truck cars out of its facility.	01:24:50
	If they do, it's under extremely real circumstances.	01:24:55
	I apologize for any confusion my e-mail earlier may have caused.	01:24:59
	As always, I'm glad to discuss should you have any further questions or concerns.	01:25:03
	And this was the last communication I received. This next slide is the last communication.	01:25:09
	I received from Mr. Duran late last week. I forget if it was Wednesday or Thursday, it was late last week.	01:25:15
	Our respective clients have communicated about the port's position that the convoy fees issue.	01:25:22
	And any matters arriving from it is fully settled as between the parties.	01:25:28
	Under the 2015 settlement agreement.	01:25:32
	I understand that you have spent some time reviewing and a land analyzing that agreement.	01:25:35
	And reflected in the presentation you gave to the City Council at a meeting recently.	01:25:40
	I call to your attention then, Section 1516 and 17 of the settlement.	01:25:45
	Which reflect that fact.	01:25:50
	Specifically the.	01:25:52
	That the city did release, remise and forever discharge the district.	01:25:54
	IE the port.	01:25:58
	Of and from any and all rights, claims, etc.	01:26:00
	Which have or may have arisen, or may in the future arise.	01:26:03
	Based upon, arising out of, or relating in any way to these allegations.	01:26:07
	Raised by the city and arbitration resulting in the 2015 settlement agreement.	01:26:12
	A reference section 15 of the settlement agreement. He attached a copy of that, which is one of the slides.	01:26:17
	Recall that the issues in dispute at the time were generally the convoy fees and the revenue sharing paid to the city.	01:26:23
	By the Port under the 8387 and 1995 agreements between the parties.	01:26:30
	Section 16 and 17 of the 2015 settlement agreement are the city's waiver.	01:26:36
	Of the provisions of Civil Code section 1542.	01:26:41
	Taken together, these provisions. 2nd 1516 and 17.	01:26:45
	Protect the district from having to relitigate the claims the city brought over 10 years ago.	01:26:50
	And the potential claims that seem to be implicated or implied.	01:26:55
	By the current questions of statements by several people affiliated with the city.	01:26:59
	Including sitting sitting City Council members.	01:27:04
	With all due respect.	01:27:08
	Any discussion of what is or is not covered by the convoy fees is misplaced.	01:27:09
	And to the extent anyone at the city asserts that the trucks carrying cars out of the port.	01:27:14
	Are subject to a convey fee misguided?	01:27:19
	The record is clear that the city and the port litigated and settled the issue of payment for individual vehicles being driven	01:27:24
	down 1 Amy Rd.	01:27:28
	From the port to vehicle processing facilities operated by third parties.	01:27:32
	That the city did not raise the issue of cars carried on trucks.	01:27:37
	In the context of that, litigation and arbitration is of no concern to the port.	01:27:41
	And as I stated in my recent e-mail to you.	01:27:46
	Trucks carrying cars out of the port exit from the Navy base gates.	01:27:49
	The port has no control over these.	01:27:54
	Exit from the base.	01:27:57
	And in any event, the 2015 settlement agreement and the underlying agreements that were in dispute.	01:27:58
	Did not and do not address those circumstances.	01:28:04
	As always, happy to discuss any of this with you at your convenience.	01:28:07
	Of the next several slides are.	01:28:12
	Portions of the various agreements that were.	01:28:15
	Sent to me from Mr. Duran in connection with the.	01:28:19
	Final e-mail.	01:28:23
	Probably the most interesting portion is slide numbers.	01:28:28
	16, yes.	01:28:33
	Or looking at section 16 of the.	01:28:35
	2015 settlement agreement, which is a waiver of California Civil Code.	01:28:39
	1542.	01:28:43
	1542 Civic Code section 1542 generally means that a general lease.	01:28:45
	Does not extend to claims which you did not know or suspect to exist.	01:28:51
	In his or her favor at the time of the execution of the release.	01:28:55
	In the 2015 settlement agreement, as in as his standard.	01:29:00
	In most settlement agreement there was a waiver of that provision.	01:29:05
	And that concludes my.	01:29:11
	Presentation. I'm happy to answer any questions you may ask.	01:29:13
	OK, so let's start with.	01:29:20
	Questions.	01:29:22
	Mayor, did you want to give an opportunity for the yes, absolutely, Representative?	01:29:25
	And so I believe it's Christopher Pizano is going to speak.	01:29:33
	Good evening, Madam Mayor and City Council. It's a pleasure to.	01:29:49
	Meet you all.	01:29:53
	And to be here this evening and to talk to you about these agreements.	01:29:54
	I'm quite familiar with the 2015 settlement agreement because I wrote it.	01:30:01
	I also.	01:30:07
	Was the.	01:30:09
	Chief Litigator.	01:30:11
	On behalf of the District.	01:30:13
	Regarding the.	01:30:15
	Arbitration and.	01:30:17
	2 lawsuits and one of.	01:30:20
	One appeal or two appeals, I can't remember.	01:30:23
	That we all fought over.	01:30:27
	My client and you.	01:30:29
	Back, I think it was between 2013 and 2015 and it was a.	01:30:32
	A contentious.	01:30:39
	Hotly contested.	01:30:41
	Litigation matter.	01:30:44
	Involving 2 public entities, which is always an unfortunate thing.	01:30:46
	Because it's public dollars fighting against public dollars.	01:30:50
	That you know that frankly, they're better spent elsewhere.	01:30:53
	But.	01:30:56
	The city chose to.	01:30:59
	Start the fight.	01:31:01
	And it was over.	01:31:02
	The accounting practices of the district.	01:31:04
	How we calculated gross operating revenue.	01:31:08
	And under the underlying agreements 1980, three, 1987 and 1995.	01:31:11
	The city gets a percentage of that gross operating revenue.	01:31:17
	And in the 2013 time.	01:31:21
	The claim from.	01:31:24
	From this entity was that we weren't calculating it correctly.	01:31:26
	And needed to make some changes in our accounting.	01:31:30
	And then as a secondary.	01:31:34
	Litigation matter.	01:31:36
	There was an allegation that we were not calculating the convoy fee correctly.	01:31:38
	In 1987.	01:31:44
	The convoy The convoying of cars was capped at 50,000.	01:31:47
	And then there was a fee.	01:31:52
	Per car that was associated with that.	01:31:54
	In the 1995 agreement, that 50,000 cap was lifted.	01:31:57
	And this and the district paid a premium for every car above 50,000.	01:32:02
	But there was an open question as to whether the district was entitled to an offset.	01:32:07
	For the convoy fee above 50,000.	01:32:12
	That was another issue that was hotly contested.	01:32:15
	And was actually subject to an arbitration that was.	01:32:18
	Try doing arbitrator, but the arbitrator never.	01:32:22
	Reached a decision because.	01:32:25
	At the time, City Attorney Mark Hensley and I and.	01:32:28
	District CEO Kristen Dicus, who's in the audience, and then City Manager Cynthia Haas.	01:32:33
	We all sat in A room.	01:32:39
	Not that far from here.	01:32:41
	And we hammered out these terms, which we then memorialized in this agreement.	01:32:43
	And the purpose of this agreement was to.	01:32:49
	Put all this to bed.	01:32:52
	To move on.	01:32:56
	We sort of reconfirmed how the convoy fee would be charged.	01:32:59
	How the gross operating revenues will be calculated?	01:33:03
	And then we.	01:33:07
	Came to this agreement and we would get rid of the lawsuits and the arbitration and the appeals.	01:33:09
	All of which were going on at the same time.	01:33:15
	And and we would each release each other from all claims, known and unknown.	01:33:18
	And your city attorney pointed out the 1542 waiver, that was not by accident and that was not.	01:33:24
	Boilerplate or standard fare?	01:33:31
	That was very important to my client.	01:33:33
	And as I suspect.	01:33:36
	It was very important to.	01:33:38
	This body that sat here before, we didn't want to have to do this again.	01:33:41
	I'm happy to answer any questions.	01:33:46
	About.	01:33:49
	If you have.	01:33:50
	Issues or concerns about.	01:33:51
	How we're supposed to.	01:33:54
	Calculate fees or things of that nature, but.	01:33:58
	I can tell you this, those waivers.	01:34:02
	Very broad, and that was very intentional.	01:34:05
	And if there is another lawsuit that's that arises out of this.	01:34:08
	I would respectfully submit that, in my legal opinion, that would be a violation of the 2015 agreement.	01:34:13
	And I hope we don't go there, but I'm happy to answer any questions that you all might have.	01:34:20
	OK. Thank you. Thank you so much. One comment, please. Thank you.	01:34:24
	I do want to say that when I made the presentation to this board in 20.	01:34:29
	December 16.	01:34:35
	2024.	01:34:36
	I researched those agreements and provided a synopsis of those agreements.	01:34:38
	Just to let us know what is.	01:34:42
	I did not do that with any intention of litigation.	01:34:44
	We've never mentioned litigation on this on our side, so I'm a little offended by where you're going, but okay.	01:34:49
	That was clearly just to provide knowledge to the Council and in particular to our newest Council member.	01:34:56
	Mayor Pro Tem Lopez.	01:35:03
	I just want to put that out there.	01:35:05
	I didn't mean to insinuate anything.	01:35:08
	Yeah, you did.	01:35:11
	OK.	01:35:12
	No, you go ahead, Go ahead.	01:35:14
	Councilman.	01:35:17
	The point of me being here today is to.	01:35:19
	Have a discussion with you all to hopefully put this to rest and to let you know that in 2015.	01:35:24
	There was a conscious effort on the part of both my client and you.	01:35:31
	To close this book and to never open it again.	01:35:37
	OK, great. So we're going to take questions just a minute. Thank you so much for saying that because that was really going to be	01:35:41
	my comment.	01:35:43
	We're we're trying to.	01:35:46
	Understand more the contract right?	01:35:49
	And I think we all are pretty good readers.	01:35:53
	And So what we don't want to do, and this is no disrespect to anyone, what we don't want to do, I think is what no one in this	01:35:57
	room does when they sign a contract.	01:36:02
	Is take what's told to them?	01:36:07
	So we're trying to find out what it really means. And so we have questions that we're going to ask to try to get there. And so	01:36:10
	you're here tonight. You said hopefully to put this to bed.	01:36:15
	I don't think.	01:36:21
	That is going to be put to bed tonight.	01:36:22
	Because I think we have other questions sure need to ask and that we need to have answered.	01:36:24
	So we appreciate you being here and we're glad that you're willing to take questions from us. So.	01:36:28
	We have some questions and we're going to do our very best to.	01:36:34
	Kind of get through them.	01:36:37
	So that we're smarter for it, and so that we know how we need to proceed.	01:36:39
	OK. And it's not about litigation at this point. It's about fact finding, trying to understand what the words mean, not what.	01:36:43
	What's?	01:36:52
	What people believe the word means So. So it's fact finding and so that's what we're going to do.	01:36:54
	Thank you, Madam Mayor. I appreciate that. Appreciate that. Appreciate that so.	01:36:59
	In addition to being willing to answer your questions this evening.	01:37:03
	I'm also willing to work with your city count or your city attorney after today.	01:37:07
	If this matter is not put to bed tonight, I will work with her until we can hopefully put it to bed at some point. Great, we	01:37:12
	appreciate that. If you could, please give me your business card because I only communicate through Mr. Durant and I think it	01:37:17
	would be helpful to be able to communicate with you directly.	01:37:23
	Particularly with respect to reviewing the prior litigation.	01:37:28
	Happy to.	01:37:32
	Thank you. So at this point we're going to take.	01:37:33
	Questions. No.	01:37:36
	Discussion if you have specific questions that you have.	01:37:38
	Please ask questions.	01:37:42
	Ready, Councilmember Gama? Yes.	01:37:45
	I believe it's most appropriate to direct our questions to our city attorney.	01:37:48
	And.	01:37:53
	Quite frankly, you're coming in a little hot and don't appreciate it.	01:37:54
	But I want to ask our city attorney like.	01:37:59
	We are both public agencies. Is that correct?	01:38:02
	I mean, I know the port is a special district, but the port is a public agency. Is that correct? To the best of my knowledge it is	01:38:06
	OK and.	01:38:10
	Madam City Attorney.	01:38:14
	It's my understanding back in 1984 when I was a junior in college, I remember reading about the port.	01:38:16
	Entering into agreement with BMW.	01:38:24
	To bring cars to the city through the city.	01:38:27
	I believe I may be not accurate but.	01:38:31
	In what we've learned.	01:38:34
	At or about that time, the port came to the city and said, hey, we're going to be bringing cars in and we're going to give you	01:38:36
	money. I'm just paraphrasing.	01:38:40
	An agreement was made.	01:38:44
	Is that accurate that the initial agreement was in or about 19?	01:38:48
	84 when for the first time the port was going to bring cars through the city. Is that accurate?	01:38:53
	19 OK, OK.	01:38:59
	There were lots of them, lots of several agreements. I believe the first one was 1983. And so when it comes to public agencies,	01:39:02
	first public agency or even a private agency for that matter, versus a public agency like Disneyland.	01:39:08
	When Disneyland decided to build California Adventure Park, they would have had to come to the city, correct?	01:39:15
	Yes, OK. So.	01:39:23
	Where I'm going is is that there's been a lot of changes since 1984.	01:39:26
	At some point they started bringing in tractors. John Deere.	01:39:32
	Volvo dump trucks.	01:39:36
	At some point they started bringing in.	01:39:38
	Oversized loads that require a.	01:39:41
	CHP escort.	01:39:45
	Councilman, we never.	01:39:46
	We never had the courtesy of of.	01:39:48
	Of discussing those new.	01:39:51
	Methods of operations because it.	01:39:53
	The whole point.	01:39:55
	Is to cover the cost of impacts, is that correct?	01:39:57
	That was the stated purpose of the agreements, yes, to cover the cost of infrastructure impacts. OK. So if if hold on, hold on	01:40:01
	just one second, hold on just a second.	01:40:06
	So if you have specific questions, I know you're asking those, but a roundabout way, but if you have right now specific questions	01:40:11
	because we have to go through the process, we're going to come back to discussion.	01:40:16
	But right now we had a presentation. We want to take some questions.	01:40:21
	Were you the one who wrote the response that said trucks don't go down Ventura Rd.	01:40:28
	No, I was not OK.	01:40:33
	The city attorney to date has been dealing with the port's general counsel. OK, but I would suggest that trucks do don't go down	01:40:35
	Ventura Rd.	01:40:39
	All the time.	01:40:43
	How is it that an expert from your side?	01:40:45
	Responded incorrectly.	01:40:48
	Well, those those trucks exit the Navy's. No Sir, you don't live around here. We see the trucks.	01:40:50
	We're talking banana trucks. All kinds of trucks go down Ventura Rd.	01:40:56
	Not just auto transport trucks. OK, OK, so that's a fact.	01:41:00
	OK, but it was misstated.	01:41:05
	Initially.	01:41:08
	And that's troubling.	01:41:09
	OK, I apologize for the misstatement. It was a.	01:41:11
	It was a miscommunication and it was later corrected.	01:41:16
	So I think it's really important that we ask questions.	01:41:22
	If we want, I'd like to get some things on the record.	01:41:26
	OK, so let's ask the questions to get some things on the record.	01:41:29
	And then let's let's kind of move on. I think that will be a first step. Yes. Thank you.	01:41:33
	So.	01:41:38
	Is the intent.	01:41:41
	Of any agreement.	01:41:45
	The intent is to cover.	01:41:47
	The costs associated with operations from the port that affect the city is that.	01:41:50
	Generally true.	01:41:54
	I think that's the gist. I mean, look, the bottom line is this Councilman.	01:41:55
	I can't speak to the intent of the 8387 or 95 agreements because I wasn't around at that point in time. Maybe you could answer	01:42:01
	this?	01:42:06
	If we if we have the body, if.	01:42:12
	If we if we as a body.	01:42:15
	Councilmember.	01:42:18
	You asked, let him answer the question and then you could go to another question.	01:42:19
	But he's answering, so let him answer that question.	01:42:23
	Like your city attorney?	01:42:26
	I've I've read the agreements.	01:42:28
	I believe that that was.	01:42:31
	The overarching intent was was to provide a mechanism for the district to reimburse the city.	01:42:34
	For some of its hard costs for Rd. maintenance and things of that nature. And I think I heard you say, I think you would agree	01:42:41
	with this that it's better to talk.	01:42:45
	Because if if.	01:42:50
	I agree if that's not occurring.	01:42:51
	If the city is not recouping its cost.	01:42:54
	Then we need to talk and have conversations that matter around that subject.	01:42:57
	But umm.	01:43:01
	It appears to be that.	01:43:02
	There's a need for a lot of conversations.	01:43:04
	Regarding.	01:43:07
	What has changed since 1984?	01:43:08
	And don't we?	01:43:11
	Up here have a fiduciary responsibility.	01:43:13
	To address.	01:43:16
	Anything that we learn is not covering our costs.	01:43:18
	Well, I would answer your question this way. Do you have a fiduciary duty? You have a duty to your, to your people, obviously the	01:43:23
	people that you represent.	01:43:27
	The people who sat in these chairs and in the district's chairs back in the 1980s and early 1990s.	01:43:34
	They did their level best.	01:43:43
	To look into the future.	01:43:45
	As to what those costs might be.	01:43:47
	And they they agreed to.	01:43:50
	What would be compensated? And they agreed to escalators, escalation clauses.	01:43:54
	Which?	01:44:01
	I am assuming.	01:44:02
	That those folks said.	01:44:04
	How are we going to make sure that in the future it still covers our costs?	01:44:07
	And this is what they came up with.	01:44:12
	Now, umm.	01:44:14
	Good, bad or indifferent, that's what those agreements say.	01:44:15
	And I can't speak to the intent other than what's written.	01:44:19
	And I don't know whether.	01:44:24
	That covers your costs or not. I haven't looked into your ****** and any specificity lately. I know I did back in 2015, but it's	01:44:25
	been a while.	01:44:31
	So, you know, I apologize, I'm not up to speed in terms of.	01:44:37
	You're all's financial situation, but I do know that.	01:44:43
	They tried to anticipate that back in the 80s and 90s. And what if we're off?	01:44:47
	I think he just answered that.	01:44:54
	I don't know. The contracts don't provide a remedy. My last question is, I think what I heard from you is.	01:44:57
	This is it. You're stuck with it. Deal with it. That's kind of the message I got from you.	01:45:03
	Is that true?	01:45:08
	Well.	01:45:09
	I'm look I'm here to answer questions again.	01:45:11
	I want to answer questions, I don't want to come in hot.	01:45:15
	I apologize if I came in hot.	01:45:19
	I'm here to answer questions about.	01:45:23
	What these agreements say, all I can tell you is what was going on in everyone's head in 2015 when we tried to put.	01:45:26
	Some really expensive litigation behind us, OK.	01:45:34
	Great. Yeah.	01:45:38
	Did you have something city man? I just wanted to add that.	01:45:38
	The port answer.	01:45:45
	Might be different than the city's answer.	01:45:47
	But I'm not prepared to give advice at this point as to what the city's position is going to or legal position should be.	01:45:50
	I haven't reviewed the litigation documents. I haven't looked at the arbitration.	01:45:58
	I haven't, you know, done a deep dive.	01:46:03
	Into them, and I think that that really would be necessary.	01:46:06
	To make a legal determination to advise this board.	01:46:10
	If it wanted to proceed with litigation or not. But I do think it's important to remember that at this point we're not talking	01:46:14
	about litigation. That's right. We are talking about getting facts.	01:46:20
	And getting some answers to the extent that you can provide them. And we appreciate you being here. I know I'm going to be writing	01:46:25
	to you and asking you.	01:46:29
	Copies of those pleadings and and I and I think that is such a good question and I have a full pleading file I'm sure you do that	01:46:33
	I would be happy to put onto a share link and send to you. That would be terrific. Absolutely that I do think.	01:46:41
	In order for me really to advise you and give you any sort of.	01:46:49
	Information.	01:46:54
	On how to proceed.	01:46:55
	We need to do a real deep dive into what was going on, probably starting with the litigation in 2013 would be my guess.	01:46:57
	And then resulting in the 2015.	01:47:04
	Settlement agreement.	01:47:07
	And that 1542 waiver?	01:47:09
	You really have to research also how broad are those waivers? And that's definitely a legal research question. Thank you. Thank	01:47:11
	you, Councilmember Hernandez.	01:47:15
	Yes, thank you for being here and thank you to the port staffer being here as well.	01:47:21
	My question is that.	01:47:27
	Well, first let me make a statement here that I don't think this Council has a whole.	01:47:29
	Has agreed that we want to.	01:47:34
	That we've made the claim that we're not getting our costs covered.	01:47:38
	We're not. We're not in agreement on that. We haven't had a discussion on that. We've not even looked at the numbers.	01:47:41
	So my first question is.	01:47:49
	Has there been a maybe the city manager can answer?	01:47:52
	Has there been any movement toward looking at whether or not?	01:47:55
	1st If those trucks are coming out the wrong gates, are we absolutely are we measured the traffic.	01:48:00
	Of those trucks in any way in order to make the claim that they are using the wrong roads.	01:48:06
	And have we looked at?	01:48:11
	Whether or not our costs are being covered, I don't think we.	01:48:12
	We have but.	01:48:15
	We're jumping the gun. We're going a little too far ahead. Yeah, I think I'm going to just kind of remind everybody that we	01:48:17
	started December 4th asking 3 questions, right? I think that was it. So have we, have we done a full analysis? No.	01:48:23
	You know, I think.	01:48:30
	At some point.	01:48:32
	Sort of moving forward, I think.	01:48:34
	Just information sharing is going to be key between the agencies and I think.	01:48:35
	Obviously Council is going to discuss it today, but.	01:48:40
	For US, one of the things we would.	01:48:43
	Look for as more opportunities for information sharing.	01:48:45
	Thank you. Yes.	01:48:49
	Go ahead.	01:48:51
	OK, so in in one of the responses that one of the second responses.	01:48:53
	Can I just say this really quick?	01:49:00
	Yes, before Madam Mayor Pro Tem asked this question.	01:49:02
	I think.	01:49:05
	I'm glad that you're here and there are some questions that we can post to you, but like our city manager said, we got responses	01:49:07
	to three questions that we had.	01:49:11
	And I just heard that you did answer any of them.	01:49:15
	You didn't answer those questions that we had.	01:49:18
	So I think posing.	01:49:20
	The questions regarding the responses to you.	01:49:23
	Might be.	01:49:26
	Might not be the right thing because you didn't write the responses.	01:49:28
	I didn't write the responses that were on the screen. My part, my partner did.	01:49:32
	Yeah. So what I'm saying is those responses, 3 responses, I think those responses.	01:49:38
	The responses to our three questions came from the Port's attorney.	01:49:44
	Is the general counsel general counsel, not you?	01:49:49
	Correct. I'm not the general counsel. Yeah. So there there are some questions we have, but.	01:49:52
	I think the majority of them are probably tied to the responses to our original 3 questions OK that you probably won't be able to	01:49:56
	help us with because you didn't respond. They weren't your responses.	01:50:02
	That true, but I can help you because we could put it on the record. I know these agreements quite well or these agreements well.	01:50:08
	And and you've read, you know what the responses have been.	01:50:13
	I read the PowerPoint and I have seen the e-mail exchanges. OK, OK, good. Because I have some questions too. Go ahead.	01:50:20
	So as a retired military veteran who uses the base a lot and who lives near.	01:50:26
	The Sunkist Gate.	01:50:33
	I could tell you that the trucks do come out of.	01:50:36
	The trucks do come out of the Sunkist Gate.	01:50:39
	Because on the weekends.	01:50:43
	The Victoria gate closes, which is the main gate OK.	01:50:45
	But in the response that says Clovis is a.	01:50:48
	Secondary tenant of the base.	01:50:52
	So does that kind of just?	01:50:55
	Wash your hands as.	01:50:57
	A contractor who uses.	01:50:59
	The facilities.	01:51:01
	They become their own entity, so they're not.	01:51:03
	Bound to.	01:51:05
	Gate Which gate to use like?	01:51:07
	The corridor for the trucks.	01:51:10
	Well, we don't have control over those folks.	01:51:12
	That it's not like the convoy.	01:51:16
	Where we have control.	01:51:18
	Over which gate they go out of and and.	01:51:21
	The way that 1987 agreement is set up is we're supposed to meet and confer on.	01:51:24
	Which rode Those convoys are supposed to go down.	01:51:30
	And.	01:51:33
	That's what we do.	01:51:35
	Truck traffic from.	01:51:36
	A contractor like.	01:51:41
	Globus.	01:51:43
	Which operates on the navies.	01:51:45
	Portion of the.	01:51:48
	Port, not our portion.	01:51:50
	We offload cars.	01:51:53
	We send them to Glovis.	01:51:56
	And that's the end of our responsibility for those particular cars. They do what they do.	01:51:58
	Subject to an agreement they have with the Navy.	01:52:04
	And.	01:52:07
	Where they go out is something that we don't control now.	01:52:09
	When we receive a car.	01:52:14
	That then goes to globus.	01:52:18
	That's part of our revenue.	01:52:21
	That is calculated as gross operating revenue.	01:52:24
	Of which a percentage is paid to the city.	01:52:27
	So you are being.	01:52:31
	Compensated.	01:52:36
	To a certain extent, whether it's full or not, I don't know, but you are being compensated for that car.	01:52:38
	From us.	01:52:45
	Yeah, I guess what specifically what I'm getting at is.	01:52:47
	When those trucks actually enter.	01:52:51
	Sunkist Gate.	01:52:54
	And they're they're turning left on a left turn.	01:52:56
	You know, those are those trailers are two they're.	01:53:00
	They're connected in twos, tandem and twos.	01:53:03
	Well, they're sticking out.	01:53:06
	Into Ventura Rd.	01:53:08
	Which becomes a public safety issue.	01:53:10
	Because.	01:53:13
	When you're trying when you're behind that, you're technically in the.	01:53:14
	In the two lanes of the road.	01:53:19
	And you're.	01:53:22
	If the car behind you is not paying attention, you're going to get rear-ended.	01:53:23
	Because you're you're totally compromised, so the whole truck takes the whole left lane.	01:53:27
	And this is what we.	01:53:32
	This is what I see a lot and.	01:53:34
	And it just seems like.	01:53:36
	If this is a globus thing and it's happening on the weekends.	01:53:38
	This this becomes a public safety issue.	01:53:42
	And it's it's going to.	01:53:46
	It's just going to be time when there is going to be an accident there.	01:53:48
	And we're, you know.	01:53:51
	I don't want to say that I told you so.	01:53:54
	But there's likelihood this can't happen.	01:53:57
	OK, Yeah.	01:54:00
	OK. Did you have any other questions?	01:54:02
	OK, so.	01:54:04
	I have a couple of questions.	01:54:06
	So.	01:54:08
	In and I'm just going to kind of refer to.	01:54:11
	Some of these documents.	01:54:14
	So in in the contract.	01:54:16
	It refers to convoy.	01:54:19
	Can you explain to us what?	01:54:21
	It was meant to be written the contract meant.	01:54:23
	By using the word convoy, what what did that mean?	01:54:27
	So the 1987 agreement.	01:54:30
	Talked about the convoy.	01:54:33
	And again, I can't speak to intent of 87 because.	01:54:36
	I wasn't here.	01:54:41
	I was in high school.	01:54:43
	College. All right.	01:54:44
	I was out of law school by then, but anyway.	01:54:46
	But look.	01:54:51
	87 had.	01:54:53
	In in 83.	01:54:55
	The only payment that was.	01:54:58
	From the district to the city was via gross operating revenue.	01:55:01
	Two ways of calculating it.	01:55:05
	But ultimately, it was gross operating revenue.	01:55:08
	In 87.	01:55:11
	They have this convoy fee.	01:55:14
	That was, as far as I can tell, the only.	01:55:17
	Fee that the district was going to pay to the city.	01:55:20
	In addition to.	01:55:24
	Gross operating revenue.	01:55:27
	So it's a separate.	01:55:29
	Fee that you get on top of the gross operating revenue.	01:55:31
	Why? I don't know.	01:55:34
	I don't know what was going on back then.	01:55:37
	It might have been that that was around the time the BMW thing.	01:55:40
	Happened, uh.	01:55:44
	And they said here's a good way to get the cars from the port to the processing center.	01:55:45
	And we'll pay you guys a buck a car.	01:55:50
	Which will compensate you for the wear and tear on the road. And so that's a separate fee above and beyond gross operating	01:55:53
	revenue.	01:55:56
	Everything else.	01:55:59
	Was intended to.	01:56:01
	Fit within gross operating revenue.	01:56:02
	OK.	01:56:06
	So.	01:56:08
	Based on some of the new.	01:56:12
	Not processes, but things that are happening now. Truck cars are being put on trucks.	01:56:15
	How? How is the city compensated for that?	01:56:20
	Well, then again, it's my understanding that that.	01:56:25
	That is from. That's what Globus is doing.	01:56:28
	The port is still moving.	01:56:32
	The.	01:56:34
	That, uh.	01:56:36
	It receives.	01:56:37
	Through the convoy.	01:56:39
	And you get the convoy fee.	01:56:41
	If if if globus is.	01:56:44
	Processing on their own over on the Navy side and then taking it out.	01:56:48
	Your compensation from us is through the gross operating revenue payment.	01:56:53
	Which I alluded to early, alluded to earlier, that car that we take send over to Globus.	01:56:58
	You get a cut.	01:57:04
	Of that fee that we get for that car.	01:57:05
	OK. So when you said that the cars that go to the port?	01:57:09
	They all really go to the port, right?	01:57:15
	And then they're transported over to the base.	01:57:18
	Some I think the.	01:57:21
	And the.	01:57:24
	The key is in the Hyundai.	01:57:26
	Go to Glovis, which operates over on the Navy side. Where do they come in at?	01:57:28
	They come in off the port. OK, so they all really come out the out off at the port. They come off at the port. Some stays at the	01:57:32
	port and then some go over to the military base. Yes. OK, where? Yes. So when they go over to the military base, are they now	01:57:38
	military property or do they still belong to the port? Well, they don't belong to the neither.	01:57:44
	Because my understanding is globus.	01:57:51
	Has an agreement with the Navy.	01:57:53
	To operate on a portion of the Navy's.	01:57:56
	Property.	01:58:01
	And Globus is then responsible for getting those cars, those Kias and those Hyundais.	01:58:03
	To retail market.	01:58:09
	They process it on the Navy's base and then they get it to the retailers.	01:58:13
	IKEA and Hyundai.	01:58:18
	And that's what I understand is being put on the trucks.	01:58:20
	And sent through city streets.	01:58:23
	OK, so based on what your understanding is about.	01:58:25
	The convoys that still.	01:58:29
	Come from the port of Port Hueneme.	01:58:31
	Can you tell tell us why?	01:58:36
	The port.	01:58:38
	Pays us for that.	01:58:40
	Why? Why would they pay for that?	01:58:42
	For the for the cars to be transported from the port.	01:58:43
	Up Wine EMI Rd.	01:58:47
	Because that's what we agreed to in 1987 and we honor our contracts and that was because of the.	01:58:48
	The road, the paying for the maintenance, things like that.	01:58:55
	So, umm.	01:58:58
	Do you believe?	01:58:59
	That the same is true.	01:59:01
	Whether it's on traveling.	01:59:03
	Individual cars.	01:59:06
	Versus a truck.	01:59:08
	Do you think there's still?	01:59:09
	We're still receiving damage to our roads.	01:59:11
	If they're single vehicles or if they're on the truck.	01:59:15
	Because when I think about it, the weight is the same.	01:59:19
	Probably more because of the truck.	01:59:22
	Right. And So what?	01:59:24
	What? What's in the contract about that?	01:59:26
	Is there anything written?	01:59:28
	That says.	01:59:30
	You know, if it's on a truck.	01:59:31
	Then we should treat it differently.	01:59:33
	So what does it say about that? Yeah, I mean, look, I understand what you're grappling with here.	01:59:37
	And all I can say is that 8787 agreement have that one limited additional fee.	01:59:43
	For the convoy fee.	01:59:49
	From What Goes down, Wineemi Rd.	01:59:51
	Leaves the port.	01:59:54
	Travels down Wine Me Rd. in a convoy to a processing facility which.	01:59:55
	I think is an Oxnard.	02:00:00
	And in 87.	02:00:04
	I'm not, I'm not. I won't say we, but.	02:00:07
	The port.	02:00:10
	Officials and the city officials agreed.	02:00:11
	Buck a car.	02:00:14
	With an escalator.	02:00:15
	And that's.	02:00:18
	What you get on top of the gross operating revenue?	02:00:19
	Everything else.	02:00:22
	Is.	02:00:24
	The intent as I understand it.	02:00:26
	From 83 and 87, was that gross operating revenue and the percentage of that that you get?	02:00:29
	Is designed to cover everything else.	02:00:37
	Whether it does or not, I don't know.	02:00:40
	OK, guys. Got it. Thank you for that.	02:00:42
	Umm, the other question that I had.	02:00:46
	Was.	02:00:48
	So do you believe if the trucks are actually?	02:00:52
	Driving on.	02:00:56
	Port Wine, EMI Streets.	02:00:58
	That.	02:01:00
	That is part of maintaining.	02:01:01
	The streets, I mean, Do you believe that?	02:01:04
	I think that any vehicle that travels over any public St.	02:01:07
	Causes wear and tear to that street that ultimately.	02:01:12
	Repairs and maintenance need to be done.	02:01:17
	Whether the agreements.	02:01:20
	Fully compensate you for that or not.	02:01:23
	I do not know.	02:01:27
	But I believe that the intent from 83 and 87 was.	02:01:28
	To look in the future and try to come up with a system that will compensate you.	02:01:33
	Great. Thank you, Madam Mayor, if I may make one comment.	02:01:38
	It's my recollection that the 1987 agreement is the one that references convoys.	02:01:42
	But there's no definition of what a convoy is.	02:01:48
	So trying to grapple with that now.	02:01:52
	Trying to figure out what was intended by that term.	02:01:55
	A few years ago, 1987, I was already practicing law.	02:02:00
	I think it's problematic because it's not defined in the agreement. That's my recollection.	02:02:05
	I think you're right.	02:02:10
	So I, you know, I always fall back to the ordinary meaning of the word convoy.	02:02:12
	And I'm reminded of when I think of the word convoy, I think of the movie Smokey and the Bandit.	02:02:17
	Convoy a group of cars that go one after the other.	02:02:26
	Rolling down the same Rd.	02:02:29
	Well, it's hard to figure out if it means one or more than one. I mean, I think it does, but I've, you know, tried looking up	02:02:31
	various definitions.	02:02:35
	And it's not clear to me exactly what that means. And does that also include?	02:02:39
	The trucks, I don't sitting here today, I don't have that answer.	02:02:44
	And I think it warrants further discussion. Better Mayor.	02:02:48
	Hold on. Yes, go right ahead on the convoy and tracks. I did come across the definition.	02:02:53
	From the military.	02:02:58
	Where uh.	02:03:00
	A group of vehicles headed in the same direction under the protection of a bigger.	02:03:01
	System.	02:03:06
	So that sounds good to me.	02:03:08
	And the reason I'm asked, only reason I'm asking the questions is because.	02:03:12
	The response to our first question.	02:03:15
	From the Port General Attorney.	02:03:17
	Council was.	02:03:20
	At the time 2015 settlement, the definition of convoy as agreed upon by the parties, which I would.	02:03:23
	My other question was, who were those parties?	02:03:29
	And reflect it in their continued course of conduct since that time.	02:03:32
	Has only meant automobiles, so that is.	02:03:36
	What was told to us?	02:03:39
	Right. And so we're trying to say.	02:03:41
	Really. Is this what it meant, or is this the perception of what?	02:03:44
	It's believed that it meant.	02:03:48
	Right. Yeah.	02:03:50
	And so.	02:03:51
	That's why we're asking the questions because.	02:03:52
	You know, we have responses and we're trying to.	02:03:54
	Right through those and say, OK, what is this really?	02:03:56
	Saying is that.	02:03:59
	Is it a perspective?	02:04:01
	Right. Umm.	02:04:02
	Is the perspective of who's telling us.	02:04:03
	Or is it really?	02:04:06
	What was the the?	02:04:08
	I want to say.	02:04:09
	Not the letter of the law, but the terms of the agreement. Yeah, the terms of really the agreements. And so I think that's one of	02:04:11
	the the, the, the concerns or issues that we're having is.	02:04:16
	Who's telling us?	02:04:22
	Is from the port and that's not I'm not I'm not saying it's not US against them, but what I am saying is.	02:04:24
	Like any of us when we have a contract, if I had a contract with you.	02:04:31
	Am I going to just take what you say and say OK, he said it?	02:04:34
	No, I'm gonna say come on, let's talk about it.	02:04:38
	Let's make sure that we're really all understanding, and that's really what this is about.	02:04:40
	Trying to really just understand.	02:04:44
	Where we are and just make sure that we.	02:04:46
	We are understanding, so we know how we need to.	02:04:49
	To move forward. And when I say that, I don't mean litigation, OK, conversation, right?	02:04:52
	I mean, conversation is important to really understand.	02:04:57
	What this?	02:05:00
	Information what these contracts really mean. I agree.	02:05:01
	And I will say this in response.	02:05:05
	In 2013.	02:05:08
	The city started the lawsuit.	02:05:11
	And the claim was about the vehicle convoy fee.	02:05:14
	We never talked about trucks. It never came up because it wasn't part of.	02:05:19
	Your lawsuit against us.	02:05:25
	So let me follow on to that then.	02:05:28
	So it wasn't part of it. But we know, right? We all know.	02:05:31
	That, uh.	02:05:35
	That times have changed and cars aren't convoying.	02:05:37
	As individual vehicles, they're being put on trucks now.	02:05:42
	And so let me ask you this question. This may be helpful.	02:05:46
	So.	02:05:49
	And I don't know, maybe.	02:05:51
	Kristen OR.	02:05:52
	Austin. Austin, Sorry, Austin can help us.	02:05:55
	So, umm.	02:05:58
	So I think what I'm hearing is.	02:06:00
	When we convoy vehicles.	02:06:03
	Cars.	02:06:06
	That we are not receiving.	02:06:08
	Per vehicle.	02:06:12
	Fee that we we.	02:06:14
	Were receiving.	02:06:16
	When all the cars convoy, now they're being placed on trucks and so we're not receiving.	02:06:18
	No, the ones that go to Clovis are you saying are the ones?	02:06:24
	Those were never subject to the convoy fee.	02:06:28
	That was a set. That was a separate thing.	02:06:31
	That was happening.	02:06:34
	In 2013.	02:06:36
	OK, Chris, I think you may know where I'm trying to get to. Just I was just gonna say that it's always been the practice of the	02:06:38
	port.	02:06:41
	To drive the vehicles to promote facilities and then they get processed and go to market from there. So BMW down the street, WW	02:06:45
	down the street and Globus over here.	02:06:49
	And so it's not new practice since we had the discussion of the convoy feedback in 2013, fourteen and 15, the practice was the	02:06:54
	same. I just want to clarify that. Thank you.	02:06:59
	Prior to those contracts.	02:07:04
	We we weren't talking about trucks.	02:07:06
	So the truck revenue is all captured.	02:07:09
	Through the gross operating revenue that we have and we also have stated on page 10 of I believe the 1987 agreement.	02:07:13
	The caps on trucks, like they do address trucking and there are limits and we're well below those limits in that practice. So it	02:07:23
	was looked at and framed into the original agreements.	02:07:29
	For the, you know whether it's a Chiquita Chuck, a Damani truck, all of that was considered and factored in and the gross	02:07:36
	operating revenue is where you make.	02:07:40
	The money for the impacts from the port off our off our revenue sharing which I think Austin wanted to make a quick point if he	02:07:45
	may on that and before he makes his Austin, I remember last time we talked, we talked about weight and we talked about per unit.	02:07:51
	Yes.	02:07:57
	Can you, are you going to share? Is that what you're going to be talking?	02:07:58
	Thank you, Madam Mayor, members of the Council.	02:08:04
	I just want to mention that like you know, the port grew.	02:08:06
	Definitely.	02:08:09
	So like you know those agreement built-in mechanism has port do better.	02:08:10
	If Port does better see they're going to get more revenue sharing because.	02:08:15
	You know all the cars based on like you know?	02:08:19
	Every cars coming through the port will get worthy revenue and port city will get about 7% of our total revenue. So.	02:08:23
	Back in 1983, we share total revenue sharing was.	02:08:30
	Merely 24,000 dollars.	02:08:35
	But 2024, the port revenue sharing to the city.	02:08:38
	Grew into about $2.9 million. It's when really, you know, grew a lot.	02:08:42
	And convoy, for example, 87 convoy fees started from $1.00 per car.	02:08:47
	But every two year?	02:08:53
	Quarter cent, like a $0.25 increase, is built into the convoy fee.	02:08:55
	And 95 agreement, we recognize number of cars grew, so we added premium on convoy. So 1st 50,000 cars getting $1.00, but every two	02:08:59
	years $0.25 of create, you know increase.	02:09:07
	And anything over.	02:09:15
	25,000 I mean 50,000 cars will get premium revenue sharing for $1.05.	02:09:17
	So at this point.	02:09:24
	Old, you know, car Convoy P4 for 50,000 cars is $3 and 8085 cents per car.	02:09:26
	And anything over 50,000 cars will get $4.89.	02:09:33
	So all those you know revenue sharing has built in mechanism to.	02:09:39
	If we do better.	02:09:44
	And city will get more revenue sharing.	02:09:45
	That's all I want to say, Mary. Thank you.	02:09:48
	I have some.	02:09:51
	Comments and questions.	02:09:52
	So.	02:09:54
	Couple of the issues brought up from the emails, the inconsistencies and the untruths that.	02:09:58
	I'm hearing from the emails. Well the first one was the trucks do not come. Trucks carrying cars don't come down riding me Rd.	02:10:04
	But that is not true. They do come out of Winey Me Rd.	02:10:11
	They come from the port down Wine Me Road and they go to wherever they're being distributed at.	02:10:14
	The other issue is that.	02:10:19
	Back in the time when they did this agreement we weren't talking about.	02:10:22
	Large trucks carrying massive size lithium batteries.	02:10:26
	That weigh so much more and caused so much impact on our street, which you talked about the $2.9 million.	02:10:30
	That we get.	02:10:36
	That barely covers how much it costs to pay Wine Me Rd. our portion of Wine Amy Rd.	02:10:37
	For your use.	02:10:42
	For the trucks. So I mean it's there has to be some way of us being able to take a look at this and understand that costs have	02:10:44
	increased so much, the weights of your vehicles have increased so much and the impact on our roads has increased so much. And we	02:10:50
	have to be able to talk about this and figure out a solution.	02:10:56
	Where everybody is.	02:11:02
	Reaping the benefits of this Otherwise we're just going to keep.	02:11:05
	Not being able to pave our roads. There's going to be impacts to our roads and we're just going to keep having this discussion.	02:11:08
	Councilwoman, I understand what you're saying and I think what you're saying is an issue that.	02:11:13
	Cities all over the state.	02:11:20
	Are grappling with.	02:11:22
	With the.	02:11:24
	Explosion, if you will, of electric vehicles.	02:11:28
	Which?	02:11:31
	Don't fill up on gas so you don't get the gas tax and yet they're like.	02:11:33
	Twice as heavy as a normal car.	02:11:37
	And it's a huge problem for.	02:11:40
	Everyone.	02:11:42
	Every city.	02:11:43
	Umm, I just don't know that.	02:11:47
	This out the contracts between.	02:11:50
	These two entities.	02:11:54
	Provide a solution to that problem.	02:11:56
	I mean, I understand what you're saying, I really do.	02:11:59
	But.	02:12:05
	The agreements are true that every city is dealing with this, but not every city has a port.	02:12:07
	That uses.	02:12:13
	A Main St. as much as our Main Street is being used on a regular basis to offload cargo that comes out of the port.	02:12:15
	So half your half of what you're saying is true, but.	02:12:22
	Yes, Mayor Pro Tem.	02:12:25
	So when was? When was the globus?	02:12:27
	Contract with the Navy.	02:12:32
	Initiated.	02:12:35
	Late 1990s, OK, so in 19 in 1990?	02:12:39
	The Navy.	02:12:49
	Lease that land, right?	02:12:50
	OK.	02:12:53
	Clarify you because there was a.	02:12:54
	Autumn automotive customer over there before Globus. So this activity is actually going on longtime Mazda was over there.	02:12:56
	And then after Mazda Globus came in.	02:13:03
	So this practice has been ongoing.	02:13:06
	Just if I'm not sure where you're going with your question, but it but globus was.	02:13:09
	We can find out. We can get back to you on the exact date of our contracts the customers had over there, but there were previous	02:13:13
	auto customers on there before Globus.	02:13:17
	The reason why I mentioned it.	02:13:22
	It's because none of the contracts, none of the agreements specify sub.	02:13:25
	Contractors.	02:13:29
	That they utilize the roads and.	02:13:31
	They're technically cars that are off.	02:13:35
	Offloaded from the port.	02:13:37
	And it seems like.	02:13:39
	It seems like they kind of wash their hands away with it because they're like, hey, I'm a private contractor.	02:13:42
	Leasing land from the Navy so I don't I don't count.	02:13:47
	But in in reality, they're still using the infrastructure.	02:13:51
	And they're, they're, they're going out other gates.	02:13:55
	Yeah, the revenue following the corridors, the the revenue comes in through the.	02:13:59
	Gross operating revenues and they're quite significant, just to be fair.	02:14:04
	The umm.	02:14:08
	Contracts that the port has with the city are the best in the country. We did some research back when the litigation was going on.	02:14:09
	So 10% of a port's revenue is not the norm.	02:14:14
	For contributions from port cities into communities. And I'm just sharing that we think it's a good contract. Yeah. And I'm just,	02:14:19
	why can't, why can't the poor tell them to use the corridors?	02:14:25
	So we can we can offer them best practices of what roads there are times and I I'd have to work with the Navy and look at this. I	02:14:30
	know that if they use the Victoria Gate.	02:14:35
	That does close at 5:00 PM. So there may be hour issues that they'd have to look at and when they man certain gates and when they	02:14:41
	choose to use what gate, but we'd have to get back to you in that business contract. But I think the point is that we're trying to	02:14:45
	make is that.	02:14:49
	When the Navy, the Navy's tenants aren't governed by these particular agreements, the revenues that the city is receiving are from	02:14:54
	gross operating revenues that are quite significant and have grown quite a bit.	02:15:00
	With the growth of Globus, frankly.	02:15:06
	Yeah, thank you. I think I just had an aha moment. So thank you for that. Clovis is actually like you would.	02:15:09
	Deliver your cars to.	02:15:15
	The BMW you deliver them to.	02:15:18
	The base there.	02:15:21
	Their organization then ships them out. Exactly. OK, so I had. Thank you for that.	02:15:23
	Um, do you have a question? Yes, that would add that they ship them out through Ventura Road to Winami Rd. to Channel Islands Road	02:15:30
	to Victoria to harbor. They go everywhere in all directions.	02:15:35
	Yes. And that's a fairpoint. And I believe there's a lot of trucks that transit the base to to provide other services as well as	02:15:40
	grocery stores and there's a lot of activity.	02:15:45
	So.	02:15:50
	We umm.	02:15:52
	And I've been saying this for several months. I read a book.	02:15:53
	Shared it with a couple persons.	02:15:56
	A Conversations that matter.	02:15:59
	And I think it's important for, for I don't even want to hear the L word. I mean, we just want to have conversations that matter.	02:16:01
	We want to sit down, board to board.	02:16:08
	And have conversations that matter.	02:16:10
	We don't want to wink at each other. We just want to have conversations that matter. And I say that because.	02:16:12
	You're not operating on a 1987 or a 1995 ILW contract, are you?	02:16:19
	No. And you're not operating on a 198795 contract with SEIU. No, you, you negotiate and I'm sure that you negotiate with your	02:16:25
	customers every time you have a major change at the cranes.	02:16:31
	You went from break bulk to containers. Major change in operation.	02:16:38
	And so I think.	02:16:42
	I think what my goal is is like, hey, we want to have a conversation that matters.	02:16:44
	And a lot has changed and we need to be a part of the conversation and maybe we should get away from these.	02:16:48
	Because everyone agrees these are extremely complicated agreements that haven't been updated and our.	02:16:54
	Seemingly outdated and I could go on.	02:16:59
	Because there's other.	02:17:02
	Things that are traveling our roads that we don't get compensated for and I'm hearing.	02:17:03
	Tough, that's what I'm hearing.	02:17:09
	And again, these And so as things change, when you brought cranes in, you had to negotiate.	02:17:11
	Things are changing. And so that's, I think that's what that's what I feel like. I feel like we need to be a part of the	02:17:20
	conversation. Thank you. I think what we're saying is that.	02:17:24
	The compensations there, it's not maybe coming per car, but it's coming through the gross operating revenues.	02:17:29
	At a significant amount of our revenue at 10%, so just.	02:17:36
	Leaving the groundwork there, but OK, we're going to thank you so much. We're going to move on. We're going to move on back to	02:17:41
	what Mayor said, you know?	02:17:44
	That's your perspective.	02:17:47
	Public comments. Do we have any public comments? Yes, we have public comments. First, Joan Tharp.	02:17:52
	Thank you very much by the way.	02:17:58
	Thank you. I look forward to hearing from you. We may still have some other discussions, so.	02:18:00
	Don't go anywhere.	02:18:05
	So I read through the documents a couple of times and.	02:18:07
	Was really quite confused as I think.	02:18:12
	Is showing here in terms of.	02:18:15
	Not so much what is a convoy? I think that's clear now, but what is a truck and are the trucks covered and what gates are they	02:18:19
	coming in and out of because they're coming.	02:18:23
	In and out of everywhere.	02:18:28
	I've almost been hit by 1.	02:18:30
	So I think that.	02:18:32
	The city attorney has her hands full and a long list of homework questions.	02:18:35
	To get clarification on.	02:18:40
	Are all of the trucks that are coming in and out wine me gate?	02:18:43
	Are they covered under the the general operating budget?	02:18:48
	And so the city is getting compensated for that.	02:18:52
	Are the vehicles that are?	02:18:56
	On the trucks.	02:18:58
	Not getting counted because they're part of the Navy base.	02:19:00
	Even though they're coming in and out of the road, so they're impacting the roads.	02:19:06
	So.	02:19:11
	What gate should they be coming out of? What constitutes a truck?	02:19:12
	Are you getting compensated for the all of the trucks or just the car trucks or none of the car trucks?	02:19:16
	Just the cars. I think it's clear that the cars are a separate.	02:19:22
	Carve out. You're right on. So that's what I'm hearing. I was really hoping that I didn't have to get up and say anything because	02:19:26
	I thought I would get clarification from everyone.	02:19:30
	But it just sounds like kind of, yes, more clarification is needed. Thank you, thank you, thank you.	02:19:35
	OK. And then we just have one written public comment.	02:19:43
	City Council regarding question #2 I'm assuming that section refers to vehicle transport trucks.	02:19:46
	For many years I have lived in the winey Meat Beach area South of Wine Me Road and use Ventura Rd. pretty much daily.	02:19:52
	I can say that I currently see vehicle transport trucks both loaded and empty using Ventura Rd. on a semi regular basis.	02:19:59
	Just last week I was driving alongside one loaded with new Hyundai cars from about near City Hall up to around Bard Rd. before I	02:20:07
	passed it and proceeded on north.	02:20:11
	I'm not making a complaint, but just clarifying that they do use Ventura Rd. sometimes.	02:20:16
	Although not what I would consider excessive.	02:20:21
	Thank you. And that was from Jeffrey Scarberry.	02:20:23
	And that concludes public comment.	02:20:25
	There's another comment.	02:20:28
	Sorry, one more coming.	02:20:30
	Jan Burke.	02:20:36
	Well, I was. I too was not going to say anything. I thought I wanted to listen. I wanted to learn.	02:20:41
	And wanted to follow up from our last meeting in December which was very confusing.	02:20:46
	But.	02:20:51
	The conversation.	02:20:53
	I agree with you completely.	02:20:55
	There needs to be a conversation, there needs to be a discussion about where do we go from here?	02:20:57
	Business is not the same.	02:21:01
	That it used to be.	02:21:03
	That's for all of us.	02:21:04
	Life is not the same.	02:21:06
	As it used to be.	02:21:07
	And.	02:21:09
	Being a resident that lives right there near.	02:21:10
	The Winimi gate and having an office that's on Winemi and Arcturus.	02:21:13
	I can, I can cannot tell you how many cars, how many accidents.	02:21:19
	And how many trucks I've seen.	02:21:22
	Coming down that street and recently in the last.	02:21:24
	I'm going to guess.	02:21:29
	Six months maybe, Maybe as much as a year.	02:21:31
	Super heavy equipment coming off the port.	02:21:34
	And that certainly is concerning because?	02:21:37
	That they require escorts and they require extra care going down the streets and so.	02:21:42
	I just think it's time.	02:21:49
	Not to be, not for either party to get defensive or.	02:21:51
	Or argumentative, but to have a discussion. Where are we today?	02:21:55
	What's the right thing to do?	02:21:59
	What's the right relationship that we need with?	02:22:01
	Our city and our port, because right now I've I've tried very hard to have meetings with the port.	02:22:04
	Commissioners, umm.	02:22:10
	And we get, I get the strong arm.	02:22:12
	With the Coalition.	02:22:14
	They will not come to our.	02:22:16
	Our meetings.	02:22:18
	And that's not a good feeling to have.	02:22:19
	And I think that we we as a.	02:22:21
	As neighbors.	02:22:24
	Literally neighbors to the port.	02:22:26
	Want to have a conversation that's meaningful?	02:22:28
	And have a balance in how we approach doing business together.	02:22:32
	And making sure that our community is whole.	02:22:37
	And I really took offense to the relate to the previous council meeting where.	02:22:40
	All of the members, all of the community.	02:22:45
	That came in and.	02:22:48
	Did a cheerleading.	02:22:49
	Conversation with all the great things that the port does.	02:22:53
	Well, that was that was rather embarrassing.	02:22:57
	And unnecessary.	02:23:00
	And I think that, you know, it actually put a bad taste in a lot of our mouths because it was just a little too grandstandy.	02:23:02
	So I would suggest that we really tone it down.	02:23:09
	Get to a better state.	02:23:13
	And really have a serious conversation about where we go from here.	02:23:15
	That concludes public comment.	02:23:22
	Thank you.	02:23:24
	Are there any other any other questions or comments?	02:23:30
	Let me see where we are. Sorry you guys.	02:23:35
	I would just like to make.	02:23:41
	Quick comment.	02:23:43
	Perhaps we could start exploring this way to have conversations that matter and get together and.	02:23:44
	Figure out.	02:23:50
	How to?	02:23:51
	Discuss.	02:23:52
	Difficult things.	02:23:54
	Without.	02:23:56
	Considering any other method, I just think we should talk.	02:23:58
	Mayor Pro Tem.	02:24:03
	Oh, thank you.	02:24:05
	Umm, I really like what Jonathan shared with us. I think you've got.	02:24:07
	The gist of what we're what we're looking at or attempting to look at here.	02:24:11
	And my suggestion as far as where we go from here is to have this.	02:24:16
	Item placed on the agenda for the Port City Committee.	02:24:21
	And let the Port City Committee take it.	02:24:25
	And discuss it.	02:24:28
	And report back, but we need to be very unified and agreed on what it is we're trying to pursue here.	02:24:29
	Because frankly, I don't know that it's the settlement agreements that are going to.	02:24:36
	Resolve the issue that we're talking about here about.	02:24:41
	The weight on our roads from these trucks.	02:24:44
	And the idea that.	02:24:48
	They may not be covered. We might not be covered.	02:24:49
	Cost wise through the operating agreements, we don't know that. So there's there's got to be some.	02:24:52
	Homework done and discussions had, so that would be my recommendation from here on.	02:24:58
	Thank you. I'm mayor Pro Tem.	02:25:03
	Yes, so.	02:25:05
	I guess this all started because of me. So it's all your fault. It's my fault.	02:25:06
	No, but I do want to thank the port coming out here and.	02:25:12
	You know these?	02:25:16
	Being a good neighbor of ours and.	02:25:17
	Clarifying some of these things that we had questions on. So I thank you for that.	02:25:19
	And the conversations.	02:25:25
	My thoughts is wasn't there was.	02:25:28
	This wasn't meant to be hostile or.	02:25:31
	Trying to poke anybody in the eye. We're just trying to get a good understanding on.	02:25:34
	Some of the clarifying questions.	02:25:37
	You know what a vehicle is and.	02:25:40
	You know the definitions.	02:25:42
	There's no clarity in any of the contracts what a vehicle is and what is.	02:25:45
	What is an automobile?	02:25:50
	So the contract kind of it's just kind of vague and it was an understanding between.	02:25:52
	The two parties at that specific time when I get it.	02:25:56
	But again, I want to thank you for coming out and.	02:25:59
	And given us.	02:26:03
	Umm, you know your guys, your take, so thank you.	02:26:05
	Great. Thank you.	02:26:11
	I don't see that there is any other questions. We have before us a recommendation to consider the attached exhibit.	02:26:12
	With responses from Waeneme Harbor, I mean Oxnard Harbor Port, the port.	02:26:18
	To questions from the City Council.	02:26:23
	To the port regarding convoy trucks and to provide direction as appropriate.	02:26:26
	May I have a motion?	02:26:32
	Of some sort? Is there any direction?	02:26:34
	Or anything.	02:26:36
	Their motion.	02:26:38
	Council Member Hernandez.	02:26:40
	Yes, I'd like to move that we.	02:26:42
	Accept this report.	02:26:44
	That we.	02:26:48
	Put the discussion on record and that we recommend that we.	02:26:49
	Approve the city Port Committee to take this issue.	02:26:54
	For further discussion to the next city.	02:26:58
	Board meeting.	02:27:01
	Anyone else?	02:27:05
	I think it's a bit.	02:27:06
	Early in that phase, I think Joan has some things that she needs to do.	02:27:08
	First, before we can even.	02:27:13
	Start talking about that.	02:27:15
	Do you have an amended motion?	02:27:16
	I would say the first part, not the first part of her motion leaving out the Port City Committee. So accept the recommendation of	02:27:19
	staff and and receive the report.	02:27:25
	If I could add to that, so just to be clear that.	02:27:31
	If that were the.	02:27:36
	There wouldn't be any additional staff action.	02:27:38
	At this point because it's not included in the direction.	02:27:41
	I think.	02:27:44
	I'm gonna.	02:27:46
	Suggests. I think there's three possible.	02:27:47
	Paths and they've all sort of been talked about, I think one maybe what Councilmember Perez was.	02:27:50
	Mentioning would be essentially leaving it.	02:27:56
	Like staff to staff to clarify and come back with more.	02:27:59
	Information.	02:28:02
	The other would be the joint committee.	02:28:03
	Working together to clarify.	02:28:05
	It's not technically part of the joint committees assigned tasks.	02:28:07
	Obviously the Council would have the ability to change that, but as of now it's not.	02:28:12
	And then the third would be potentially, obviously we've been talking about a joint meeting between the two boards and so that's	02:28:17
	another.	02:28:20
	Path.	02:28:24
	Did want to just?	02:28:28
	Note that I do think.	02:28:30
	For our.	02:28:33
	Fiduciary duty, so to speak, I think.	02:28:35
	The key question to me is.	02:28:38
	Do I have clarity? Does the city attorney have clarity?	02:28:40
	Obviously, does the Council have clarity, but.	02:28:43
	Do we have clarity in how this contract is supposed to be administered?	02:28:45
	Do I know what I'm supposed to be billing for at this point?	02:28:50
	And I don't think it is clear, I think.	02:28:53
	Joan Tharp really hit the nail on the head and I think was too nice to say. It's about as clear as mud after this conversation.	02:28:56
	There is specifically a question that was asked.	02:29:03
	In our PowerPoint presentation, actually, can you pull that up, Georgiana?	02:29:07
	And.	02:29:12
	We actually asked the question about if the vehicles on trucks aren't counted as vehicles, are they counted under any other	02:29:14
	method?	02:29:18
	And the answer was number. They were deliberately excluded.	02:29:22
	That's not what we're hearing tonight.	02:29:26
	I hope actually what we're hearing tonight is correct.	02:29:28
	But it's part of the problem is right now if we leave this conversation without any further conversation, I don't know if I'm	02:29:31
	supposed to collect.	02:29:34
	Revenue for that?	02:29:38
	For those trucks or not?	02:29:39
	So.	02:29:41
	So I do think.	02:29:42
	I think part of what we talked about was.	02:29:44
	Just that we started out with some questions. I think it escalated. I think we all can have agreed we didn't intend for it to	02:29:46
	escalate and we can kind of take it.	02:29:50
	A step back and go to communication.	02:29:54
	But this would be an example to me of.	02:29:57
	Like I think the question of.	02:29:59
	Are the vehicles on trucks?	02:30:02
	Compensated to the city in some way.	02:30:06
	We should be able to get a clear answer on that. I think one path like mentioned would be staff to staff. I think we could get a	02:30:08
	clear answer on that. But.	02:30:11
	Well, through through any of the three paths, but those are the three paths that the Council can choose.	02:30:15
	So thank you City Manager, for clarifying that and narrowing it down to that one question because.	02:30:20
	I want to make sure that.	02:30:28
	We know what those questions should be.	02:30:30
	And so that staff can walk away and have some clear direction on what they're supposed to research and find out and bring back to	02:30:32
	us.	02:30:36
	Umm, and then we can go from there, so.	02:30:40
	Is that the only question?	02:30:44
	OK. What other questions do we?	02:30:46
	Do we want answered?	02:30:48
	The what the litigation entailed.	02:30:51
	Think city manager.	02:30:53
	I mean, city attorney wanted to go back and look at the litigation and whether the waiver, look at the broad scope of the waiver	02:30:55
	and everything else that that.	02:30:59
	Was taking place at that time so so my question again is like why, why, what, what, what is it that we're looking for and if we	02:31:03
	find what we're looking for, what do you see as the next step because.	02:31:08
	When it comes to these settle agreements.	02:31:15
	We're going to end up back in court. Maybe there's just another way.	02:31:17
	To look at getting what we're trying to achieve here without having to go back to the settlement agreement. So I think the first.	02:31:21
	The first goal.	02:31:29
	Is to do our best to understand.	02:31:31
	That's our first goal, so we're not talking about going back and.	02:31:34
	Finding out what we need to do to litigate, we're not doing any of that.	02:31:38
	I think it's important that we understand.	02:31:41
	You know what are the answers to the questions.	02:31:43
	And the questions could be anything that we talked about this evening.	02:31:46
	I'm sure.	02:31:49
	Our city manager.	02:31:50
	Has.	02:31:52
	Record pretty much of what we've been talking about.	02:31:53
	And so he can do that.	02:31:56
	So that's what I think we need our city manager to do.	02:31:58
	Along with our city attorney.	02:32:01
	Is to go back and look at these answers and then things that came up in our discussion tonight, right, that we need to get answer	02:32:03
	as well. And I think there are some things.	02:32:07
	Yeah, I think.	02:32:11
	A lot of questions can be answered.	02:32:12
	If the city attorney and I bring back a memo.	02:32:14
	Of.	02:32:18
	What items are included in the?	02:32:19
	Gross revenue and the vehicle revenue specifically.	02:32:22
	And I think one of the hard parts is.	02:32:26
	Reading the contract, I think.	02:32:29
	I could read the contract and say, oh, I understand this completely. And then I talked to.	02:32:31
	Joan and she says she has a completely different understanding and that's.	02:32:36
	You know that could be on.	02:32:40
	Just internally and then we we now have another party to have that conversation with.	02:32:41
	So starting with.	02:32:45
	What?	02:32:46
	Looking deeper into what do we actually receive revenue for and coming back with that. And then the question then would be, is	02:32:49
	that what the City Council had understood?	02:32:52
	That they would be receiving.	02:32:56
	And then from there, then that's.	02:32:58
	You know, at this point we're just seeing if.	02:33:00
	That is the case if there's clarity there.	02:33:02
	Great. Can I add a question, Can I add a question? And can we get an answer to the question has to?	02:33:04
	How much of the port revenue?	02:33:10
	Has been spent on road maintenance.	02:33:13
	Since these agreements were put into place.	02:33:17
	We would bring back.	02:33:19
	We would bring back as much as we could.	02:33:21
	Similar to a lot of the conversation is.	02:33:23
	I think the city's finance system has changed four or five times since 1984 and so.	02:33:26
	We we would go back as far as we could and provide that information, yeah. Could we get a cost estimate of what?	02:33:33
	Annual Rd. maintenance.	02:33:39
	On these roads is.	02:33:40
	We could do that. I actually think, I think that would be a good idea to do.	02:33:43
	The question for me would be can we get council direction to do that because it would take some staff time and resources, so I	02:33:48
	just want to make sure that it's something the council wanted us to do.	02:33:53
	Councilmember Gamma.	02:34:00
	Just gonna throw it out there, how do we get to having those conversations?	02:34:02
	Board to board.	02:34:06
	Public conversation conversations where we, you know, get community input.	02:34:09
	I think that's the path forward and.	02:34:14
	And that would even be so bold like.	02:34:17
	Councilmember Hernandez made a really good point.	02:34:20
	We're going to be chewing up staff time trying to figure out things that.	02:34:22
	Two very smart people will look at and say.	02:34:27
	It means different to me than what it means to you.	02:34:30
	Maybe we could chart a path forward. Maybe we could just.	02:34:34
	Let's just moveon.org.	02:34:36
	Maybe we could just.	02:34:38
	Start the long process of trying to redefine our modern day.	02:34:39
	2025 relationship because so much has changed.	02:34:45
	Since 87.	02:34:48
	So in terms of emotion.	02:34:51
	I think we also.	02:34:54
	Need to add the cost side like yeah, can we understand the cost because.	02:34:56
	You know.	02:35:01
	I have a feeling that you know our.	02:35:04
	Well, I recall.	02:35:07
	We used to joke. We say, how do you know you're in Winimi?	02:35:09
	The road turns good.	02:35:12
	On Wyoming Road right now, it looks like a puzzle.	02:35:14
	Because there's so much tar in the cracks.	02:35:18
	On the White and the City of Port Hueneme side.	02:35:21
	And so.	02:35:23
	We've gotten away from having those amazing roads.	02:35:25
	And I think we all could appreciate that if you've been here for a considerable amount of time, so.	02:35:28
	Great. Thank you. Is there a motion?	02:35:34
	So I did have a motion. I don't know if I had a second and then I believe Councilwoman.	02:35:36
	Perez had wanted to amend it. I don't know where we are with that. We were in the middle of her amendment.	02:35:41
	Is there a motion anyone can make? An emotion?	02:35:47
	So do I need to withdraw my original motion?	02:35:50
	No one seconded it so it so if you'd like to make another motion to incorporate everything that City Manager Vegas said.	02:35:53
	So port or I'm sorry, staff to staff.	02:36:03
	Discussion motion to approve staff to staff discussion bringing back clarifications specifically on what the revenues will	02:36:07
	receive. OK, I got it, I got it. I moved that the city manager and the city attorney go back bring us information on the gross of	02:36:14
	vehicle.	02:36:20
	Gross of vehicle revenues.	02:36:27
	The cost?	02:36:29
	What it would cost for?	02:36:31
	Us to repair roads how much has been.	02:36:34
	Spent on the repairing of roads from the funding that we've received from the port.	02:36:38
	And an answer to that question #1.	02:36:43
	With that question #1.	02:36:49
	Question #1.	02:36:51
	Was it #1 about trucks? Were said we're not getting paid for anything on trucks.	02:36:53
	Oh, it's a question two question #2.	02:36:58
	He's yeah, he's.	02:37:04
	He's going to get a response because the response was.	02:37:06
	Different from what they provided tonight.	02:37:08
	So that is my motion. Is there a second?	02:37:10
	2nd.	02:37:13
	Great.	02:37:15
	Is there any other discussion? I think we were discussed.	02:37:17
	Now I forgot your name.	02:37:23
	Madam Clerk, please take a vote, whoever you are. All in favor, aye. All opposed.	02:37:24
	Hearing none, motion passes unanimously.	02:37:32
	Thank you. Thank you. And again, thank you to the port for coming out and helping us answer some of those questions questions. We	02:37:34
	appreciate you so much.	02:37:39
	We're looking forward to being able to continue to communicate with you.	02:37:43
	Thank you so much.	02:37:46
	OK.	02:37:49
	We are going to move on to agenda #9, which is consideration of Community benefit fund allocations for fiscal year.	02:37:50
	202526 funding cycle.	02:37:59
	Will staff please present the report?	02:38:02
	Sorry, so I will introduce Deputy City Manager Charles Peretz to provide the report, Mr. Perez said.	02:38:09
	Taking the applications through the Citizens Advisory Commission meeting last week. And he will be.	02:38:16
	Providing a presentation.	02:38:21
	Good evening, Mayor.	02:38:29
	City Council members. Member of the public. City staff.	02:38:31
	This item does pertain to a review of.	02:38:34
	Community Benefit Fund applications.	02:38:38
	Mayor Pro Tem, are we good to proceed?	02:38:42
	Yes.	02:38:45
	I didn't know Mayor just needed a minute.	02:38:46
	So, by way of brief background, the Community Benefit Fund was created as part of.	02:38:50
	The aforementioned 2015 agreement.	02:38:55
	Between the port and the city.	02:38:58
	The agreement specifies that in each year that the port's gross operating revenues exceed $13 million.	02:38:59
	A $100,000 contribution will be made to a special fund.	02:39:05
	Those funds are earmarked for projects that would benefit the city, the port.	02:39:10
	And the communities they serve.	02:39:13
	The amounts are subject to increase each year by the May Consumer Price Index.	02:39:16
	And the agreement outlines 4 specific categories.	02:39:21
	Public benefit.	02:39:24
	That includes shoreline protection, community development.	02:39:26
	Opportunistic endeavors.	02:39:29
	And other projects that are agreed to mutually by both parties.	02:39:31
	The agreement also establishes a joint committee consisting of three representatives from each agency.	02:39:36
	To review ideas for potential funding.	02:39:41
	The committee works to achieve a consensus on how the funds are to be spent.	02:39:44
	But final approval rests with both the City Council and the Board of Harbor Commissioners.	02:39:48
	In addition to 3rd party requests, the Community Benefit Fund has been used to support various city and port initiated projects.	02:39:57
	That includes joint advocacy trips to Washington, DC, the Banana and Wine Me Beach festivals.	02:40:05
	And the Community 5K race and associated health and Wellness fair.	02:40:11
	While no funding is proposed this year for the advocacy trip due to the postponement of last year's trip.	02:40:16
	Staff is recommending that $10,000 be allocated.	02:40:22
	For each of the two festivals and the same amount for the community 5K race.	02:40:25
	So this year we embarked on a new process that the Council approved last year.	02:40:36
	That process allows for a grant like review.	02:40:42
	Applications that are submitted by third parties.	02:40:46
	This year being the first year of the new process.	02:40:49
	Began with a call for projects and announcement of the application on January 30th.	02:40:53
	16 applications were received by the March 15th deadline, and two additional applications followed shortly thereafter.	02:40:59
	All applications are summarized in the report and are included.	02:41:07
	Included as attachments.	02:41:10
	That information was reviewed by the Citizen Advisory Commission last Monday.	02:41:13
	And their action grouped them into 3 levels of priority.	02:41:18
	With this item, Council is asked to review the applications.	02:41:23
	Consider the recommendation from the Commission.	02:41:27
	And provide guidance to the representatives of the City Port Joint Committee.	02:41:29
	I should make clear.	02:41:34
	That this process that was established last year through Council action.	02:41:36
	Assists the city in its review.	02:41:40
	Of the projects that are proposed for allocation.	02:41:43
	And is separate from any port consideration and ultimate decision by the City Council and Board of Harbor Commissioners.	02:41:45
	The exact amount of funds will be known after the May CIP is released, but at this time we're estimating that.	02:41:53
	Approximately $135,000 would be available.	02:41:59
	For funding in the next funding cycle.	02:42:02
	So as noted, the Commission assigned 3 different project.	02:42:08
	A priority, excuse me, categories.	02:42:12
	Seven are assigned, as shown on the screen, to priority level 1, meaning that they are recommended to receive top consideration	02:42:15
	for funding in the upcoming cycle.	02:42:19
	Projects in this category are grouped together without any internal ranking within the category.	02:42:25
	And as noted at the bottom of the slide, one of the priority one projects that was identified by CAC.	02:42:30
	Was an application from the.	02:42:36
	Police Department to support a drone program.	02:42:37
	Staff recommends deferring consideration on that request until additional details are made available.	02:42:40
	As noted on the slide, the total cost, total estimated cost for the seven priority one projects along with the proposed city and	02:42:47
	port events.	02:42:51
	Is approximately $90,000.	02:42:55
	While that amount is below the anticipated funding available.	02:42:57
	We do expect that the port will have its own list of projects, so it's not necessary to.	02:43:01
	Assigned projects to use all of the.	02:43:06
	Funds anticipated to be available.	02:43:09
	The Commission also established a.	02:43:15
	Short list of priority Level 2 projects. There were three included there.	02:43:18
	As shown on the screen.	02:43:23
	Those are.	02:43:25
	Suggested to be funded if sufficient funds allow.	02:43:27
	And they are.	02:43:30
	Listed in priority order.	02:43:32
	So in summary, the recommendation.	02:43:39
	For this item.	02:43:42
	He's almost finished. Let him do the summary.	02:43:44
	So in summary, the recommendation is for the City Council to review the applications that were received.	02:43:48
	Review the.	02:43:55
	Proposed allocations for city and port initiated projects.	02:43:56
	Consider the Citizen Advisory Commission's advisory recommendation.	02:43:59
	And provide guidance to the city's representatives on the City Port Joint Committee.	02:44:03
	That concludes the presentation. I'm available for questions.	02:44:08
	Councilmember Gama.	02:44:11
	Was $10,000 requested on the VFWII?	02:44:13
	Was told it was a different amount.	02:44:19
	The application for the VFW for the roof repair.	02:44:24
	Yes, yes, it was $10,000.	02:44:27
	OK, the application is in the packet. I don't I believe that that is the amount cited in the actual application.	02:44:32
	So is there a metric to like?	02:44:49
	Rate the community benefit.	02:44:52
	That some method.	02:44:56
	I mean you got priority 1-2 and three. I guess that's the method.	02:44:59
	Yeah. So this again was the first year that we used the new process.	02:45:03
	And the metric that was used was really the.	02:45:07
	Evaluation that was conducted by the Citizen Advisory Commission.	02:45:10
	I will say that excuse me at the beginning of their discussion.	02:45:15
	Two points that they made was there wanted to be a focus on Winimi.	02:45:19
	Specifically, organizations that provide projects or programs that benefit.	02:45:24
	Locally here in Winimi.	02:45:28
	And then the second focus of the Commission was to focus on.	02:45:30
	Organizations that provide the benefit to the greatest number of people.	02:45:34
	So those were two things that were said at the outset of their deliberations.	02:45:38
	Councilmember Fernandez, I have a question and this is for the port. Maybe Kristen, you can answer this question.	02:45:45
	So in your introduction.	02:45:51
	Charles, you mentioned that the purpose of the Community Benefit Fund was to serve.	02:45:54
	Those communities.	02:45:59
	Of determine the communities.	02:46:03
	From that.	02:46:06
	Both the port and the city of Waeneme.	02:46:08
	Recognize.	02:46:11
	All within their jurisdiction. So so.	02:46:12
	Does that mean that?	02:46:14
	It's only Port Hueneme.	02:46:16
	How? What's your definition of community? So the.	02:46:21
	Settlement agreement spells out, as Charles gracefully put out in his PowerPoint, sort of the categorical investments that could	02:46:25
	be made with CBF funding, but the.	02:46:29
	Real spirit of it was to bring the two bodies together to look at projects.	02:46:33
	Of.	02:46:38
	Mutual benefit.	02:46:39
	For and and create that sense of collaboration around doing things. So that's why we came up with some of the ideas like murals	02:46:41
	and statues and how kind of those out-of-the-box projects that wouldn't really get funded normally in the general fund, but bring	02:46:45
	the two bodies together.	02:46:50
	To really.	02:46:54
	Create that collaborative spirit and how we can work on some good things together. I think it that was sort of the community that	02:46:56
	was referenced in these contracts. That's the reason. That's helpful. Yeah. The reason I asked, there's been a kind of unofficial	02:47:01
	policy about this funding that it go to Winnemi residents only.	02:47:07
	And then we get applicants who are from.	02:47:12
	Have an Oxnard address and then we go through a process of trying to.	02:47:16
	Discover whether or not they're serving the Winemi community.	02:47:22
	So when we don't really have a mechanism for evaluating that and I think when we get to the equine.	02:47:26
	Organization on that's number one on here that went and I watched the CAC committee meeting so.	02:47:34
	I understand the process that they used in breaking it down into priority 1-2 and three. They were just doing it for the ease of.	02:47:40
	Discussion so make it easy for us to.	02:47:48
	To decide on what we wanted to move forward, but the equine went through very quickly. Umm.	02:47:52
	There I heard another qualifier that let's do things that are new and innovative.	02:47:57
	So that was a qualifying criteria that I heard come from the CAC.	02:48:02
	So.	02:48:09
	They had to be Winimi residents.	02:48:11
	Or serve Winimi residents.	02:48:13
	We wanted new.	02:48:16
	Innovative.	02:48:17
	Programs. I think that's how the equine got in there.	02:48:18
	And then there were some other qualifying.	02:48:21
	Statements that were made about.	02:48:24
	Structural improvements, I think.	02:48:28
	Whether or not there was a precedent for structural improvements and that had to do with the.	02:48:31
	The VFW.	02:48:36
	Councilmember, to your question, I'll just and I know that we.	02:48:38
	Spoke extensively about.	02:48:42
	Agreement language and the interpretation thereof.	02:48:43
	To your question, I'll just cite section 9 of the agreement.	02:48:46
	To the question of Community, states the following in reference to what the Community Benefit Fund is to be used from.	02:48:50
	It says the funds which may be spent on approved projects that benefit both the city.	02:48:56
	And district and the communities they serve. So that's how the.	02:49:01
	That's how it's defined in the agreement.	02:49:04
	So I guess that my question was for.	02:49:06
	For Kristen, it's like, how do they define communities?	02:49:08
	We don't need to split that here tonight.	02:49:11
	Be a nice cop.	02:49:14
	Topic of conversation.	02:49:15
	Well, I think if we're going to continue to use it for, you know, as criteria for determining funding, I think that we need to get	02:49:18
	it.	02:49:21
	Clear.	02:49:25
	If I may.	02:49:28
	I agonize every time we go to community.	02:49:32
	Benefit fund negotiations.	02:49:35
	And I agonize because.	02:49:38
	How could you, you know, not support?	02:49:40
	Equine.	02:49:43
	And then I would say, well, are they going to do it in wine? Me.	02:49:45
	Are they going to do it at the beach? Are they going to do it in Miranda Park? Where are they going to do it?	02:49:48
	You know, and so I have a lot of questions.	02:49:52
	Yeah, so.	02:49:57
	I get it, but again.	02:50:01
	Is it in our community?	02:50:03
	You know.	02:50:04
	OK.	02:50:06
	But again, but oh, do we have somebody a great see, this is exactly what we need.	02:50:08
	Thank you so much for coming.	02:50:15
	I mean, I would love when I first saw it, I thought, oh wow, this is going to be cooler. Going to do it at the beach. You have a	02:50:19
	ramp, No.	02:50:22
	No, I wish we could do it at the beach, but there's no horseback riding a lot on our beach here. Thank you, City Council. I'm Kate	02:50:25
	Rodriguez. I am the.	02:50:29
	Director of Equine Empowerment Foundation. And yes, our physical address is an Oxnard rocking our ranch on 2797 E Pleasant Valley	02:50:32
	Rd.	02:50:36
	A hop, skip and a jump from here. Literally a lot of the residents or a lot of my clients that we have are waiting the residents.	02:50:40
	So we do serve.	02:50:44
	A good portion of our clients are waiting residents and.	02:50:47
	Right now we have a therapeutic writing program.	02:50:51
	So we serve children and adults with disabilities. We are very limited.	02:50:54
	To being only able to serve people that are able to mount from a traditional ramp up into the saddle.	02:50:58
	We have a lot of. I've had not a lot, but several.	02:51:04
	Clients interested in writing that are in wheelchairs that are not able to.	02:51:08
	Mount with the traditional mounting ramp and as we expand our programs, I want to.	02:51:11
	Expand into doing equine psychotherapy, which is.	02:51:15
	And then also adoptive writing for veterans as well, which we have a lot of.	02:51:19
	You know, veterans here in Winini that could definitely benefit from our program, so.	02:51:24
	It would definitely serve residents of Winini, even though our physical address is in Oxnard. But I am also a Port Winey resident	02:51:29
	so.	02:51:31
	Yes, go ahead.	02:51:35
	Council Member Hernandez So are you attached to the thrift store that raises money for Equine?	02:51:37
	Therapy no here in Y Nimi that is Reigns of Hope and they are located out in Ohio are actually Santa Paula now and they only do	02:51:44
	Equin assisted psychotherapy. They do not do therapeutic and adaptive writing. Thank you.	02:51:49
	Anyone else? Do you have any questions? I have a question it.	02:51:56
	There was a category that says nonprofit status.	02:51:59
	What? What's?	02:52:03
	What does CBF the?	02:52:05
	Define with that.	02:52:06
	So the.	02:52:09
	The CBF agreement does not.	02:52:10
	Specify uh.	02:52:13
	That monies or applicants for monies need to be nonprofit.	02:52:15
	The inclusion of that as a category or an article of information for the Council's review.	02:52:20
	Was born from the process that we went through last year. There was discussion about a focus on providing funds to nonprofits. So	02:52:26
	it's not a necessarily.	02:52:30
	A requirement, A requirement or a metric, or I'm sorry, it's not a requirement, is a metric that's included for consideration as	02:52:36
	such requests are reviewed.	02:52:40
	Thank you.	02:52:45
	Thank you for staying up.	02:52:46
	I'm little questions in my mind about safety and how do you when you put somebody who may have lost the use of their legs on a	02:52:50
	horse?	02:52:54
	How do you safely secure them and how do you manage that?	02:52:58
	Yeah, I'm not. Good question. So we have volunteers that volunteer with our organization that can provide physical support in the	02:53:02
	saddle.	02:53:06
	For writers so we can provide physical support on the legs to help balance them in the saddle. We always have sidewalkers with our	02:53:10
	riders, especially riders with disabilities.	02:53:14
	Just to make sure that they're, you know, riding in a safe environment, the horse is always on a lead line with someone else.	02:53:18
	And then if we're mounting, you know, from a wheelchair into the saddle.	02:53:23
	The safest way is definitely on the mounting ramp, so there is side protection with the rail on the one side and then the opening	02:53:27
	on the other side for the horse to come in.	02:53:31
	How does the horse qualify to be with your group?	02:53:35
	They have to have the right temperament. Not every horse has the right temperament, so we carefully select our horses that are	02:53:38
	being used for therapeutic work. They have to have the right demeanor.	02:53:42
	They cannot.	02:53:47
	Some of most of our horses are usually older bomb proof. They've been there, done that.	02:53:48
	Former police horses or former former hurried horses? Barrel racing horses.	02:53:53
	Things of that nature.	02:53:58
	That they've done previously.	02:54:00
	To provide them, you know, the experience that they need to be able to work with.	02:54:02
	People and remain calm.	02:54:05
	Thank you. Any other questions?	02:54:08
	If not, thank you so much. Thank you.	02:54:10
	You all want to move to next.	02:54:12
	What process would you like to use?	02:54:18
	Are we? Are we?	02:54:21
	Go ahead, Madam Mayor, if you're done with questions, that ain't if you wanted to. Thank you so much. Anymore questions?	02:54:23
	Thank you public comments.	02:54:29
	Thomas, Viola.	02:54:31
	Thank you, everyone. Thank you. Thank you, Mayor Pro Tem Lopez.	02:54:43
	Mayor McQueen Lejeune and the City Council.	02:54:47
	Thank you, Mr. Vega.	02:54:51
	Hi.	02:54:52
	I actually was in high school in 1987 too, by the way.	02:54:55
	I was I was a sophomore in high school.	02:54:58
	Just so I throw that out there.	02:55:01
	So originally I was going to come up here because there was one at one of those items that was.	02:55:03
	So first of all, I want to explain I'm not here as the VFW, I'm not here representing reach, I'm not here representing.	02:55:08
	Shall harbor. I'm just representing me.	02:55:14
	One of the items that were on there really irritated me, so I was going to come in and comment, but that's been taken off the.	02:55:16
	The table, so I'm not even going to worry about it.	02:55:24
	As far as what Councilman Gama was saying, the VFW did I put in the request for $10,000.	02:55:27
	Because my understanding is what that was the limit.	02:55:35
	Was 10,000.	02:55:38
	And we actually it's going to would cost a VFW $120,000 for a new roof.	02:55:39
	We don't need a new roof. What we need about $20,000 or repairs.	02:55:45
	And as far and I don't even need to go into the whole what the VFW is all about, you all know.	02:55:49
	Everybody knows.	02:55:55
	So, umm.	02:55:56
	I'm gonna leave, just kind of leave it at that. My understanding it was that was also part of this was it was a community type of	02:55:58
	thing. It was for the community.	02:56:02
	And though.	02:56:06
	Nate's Place is a great organization organization. It is in the outside, outside of the.	02:56:07
	The city limits, even though it does help a lot.	02:56:13
	So I was going to come and bring and and give you guys a hard time about something else, but I don't need to do that anymore	02:56:17
	because that's actually a mute point at the moment, so.	02:56:21
	Thank you.	02:56:25
	Great. Thank you.	02:56:26
	Any other public comments? We just have one written public comment.	02:56:28
	My name is Isaac Montes. I am a senior at Pacifica High School. I'm writing to ask for your support in funding.	02:56:31
	Psycho Club initiative through the Community Benefit Fund allocations.	02:56:38
	Our mission is to inspire and empower our community to reduce waste.	02:56:42
	Promote environmental responsibility and protect our planet through education, advocacy, and hands on recycling efforts.	02:56:46
	We are committed to inclusivity, ensuring that individuals of all abilities, backgrounds, and experiences can actively participate	02:56:52
	in creating a cleaner, greener, and more equitable future for generations to come.	02:56:58
	The Try and Recycle Club at Pacifica High School is a student LED initiative dedicated to environmental stewardship.	02:57:04
	Vocational training and community service with a strong emphasis on inclusivity.	02:57:10
	Established in 2001 as an Associated Student Body ASB Club, we have created and maintained A flourishing school wide recycling	02:57:15
	program.	02:57:19
	Fostering a culture of responsibility, accessibility, accessibility and environmental awareness among students.	02:57:23
	Our club is unique in that it is led by and designed for special education students with extensive support needs, including	02:57:28
	individuals with autism, Down syndrome, orthopedic and medical disabilities.	02:57:34
	We believe that everyone, regardless of ability, deserves the opportunity to contribute to their community.	02:57:40
	Develop life skills and make a positive environmental impact.	02:57:45
	We are lively, respectful, loving and hard working, proving that ability is never a barrier to making a difference.	02:57:48
	We are planning to use Community benefit funds to gain traditional ecological knowledge from local native cultural bearers.	02:57:55
	We plan to.	02:58:02
	Learn how our Port Hueneme Ocean is honored, cared for, and preserved.	02:58:03
	We will use the knowledge we learned to share with our peers and community.	02:58:07
	Please consider and support our initiative. Isaac Montes, Recycle Club Member, Pacifica High School.	02:58:11
	And that concludes public comment.	02:58:16
	Great. Thank you. Can you say how much that was again?	02:58:17
	Is there a dollar amount?	02:58:22
	Charles will hopefully look it up for me. Can you bring up that one? 5000 to 7500, their applicant #17?	02:58:24
	If I may.	02:58:35
	So let's process. So we're not going to do any voting.	02:58:37
	Right now, because we may get down the list and find something else, we want to move around, so let's just take them one at a	02:58:41
	time.	02:58:45
	And then after we take them one at a time, maybe we'll come back.	02:58:48
	OK. Does that sound like yeah, can we bring them up on this?	02:58:53
	May I make a comment on the last one we were just talking about?	02:58:59
	The public comment that we just received.	02:59:02
	What number is that?	02:59:06
	17.	02:59:09
	OK. So just to be clear, that's.	02:59:11
	That's not a ranking system, that's 17.	02:59:13
	So they're only ranked by priority by priority group.	02:59:17
	Group 123, but within the groups they're not ranked.	02:59:22
	OK, so.	02:59:26
	I'm a little.	02:59:28
	To have some experience and I do know that.	02:59:30
	The special Ed programs at Oxnard Union High School District, they all manage the recycling on the on the campuses, I believe.	02:59:34
	So they already have an established program where they.	02:59:43
	Pull all the bottles out of the.	02:59:46
	The recyclables and it's really nice for them.	02:59:48
	So I'm wondering if this is kind of some planting?	02:59:50
	Yeah, existing budgets. And again, I don't know if it's the right time to.	02:59:54
	Let's hold that. That's that's priority three. So let's go over to priority ones.	02:59:59
	And then we'll make our way. If we need to go down that far, we'll make our way that far.	03:00:04
	OK. Then another question or have we already?	03:00:10
	Do we have?	03:00:13
	CBF funding.	03:00:15
	City port initiatives like.	03:00:16
	Banana Festival.	03:00:20
	Health, Wellness, are those already in? Did we already approve that for five years or so?	03:00:21
	Where this is the start of this year S process. So nothing is technically in until the.	03:00:27
	Recommends it and then the joint committee agrees on it essentially.	03:00:35
	But what we tried to how we tried to show that is that.	03:00:39
	These priority one applications here add up to.	03:00:42
	55 to 59,000 because a couple.	03:00:46
	The reason why it's arranged is because a couple applied for a range.	03:00:49
	So as much as 59,000 and then what we show below that is with the 30,000 that we recommend of.	03:00:53
	Beach Fest, Banana Fest and.	03:01:00
	5K slash health and Wellness fair that would take the total of priority one plus those 3 initiatives to 89,934. Can we all agree	03:01:05
	that?	03:01:10
	Banana Fest, Winnie Beach Fest, Annual Health and Wellness 5K. Can we all agree that?	03:01:16
	Let's move on those.	03:01:21
	Because those seem to me like no brainers like those. Those are community, community, community.	03:01:25
	Let's not do that right now, but we all know that, you know those have been on the list.	03:01:32
	Yeah, but but we always we've gone started a process.	03:01:39
	And so let's just kind of go through the process.	03:01:43
	OK, so #2.	03:01:45
	Is reach utility boxes? If anybody If no one has a question, I do have a question.	03:01:47
	City Manager, can you help us?	03:01:54
	Because this has been a item on our agenda.	03:01:56
	And there has already been some discussion about.	03:02:00
	Cost.	03:02:03
	This would was going to be paid for. Can you tell us what that was?	03:02:05
	Because I was surprised, I think, to see it on the list.	03:02:10
	Yeah, I think I understand the surprise. I think that as we talked about sort of separating from reach and having reached stand on	03:02:12
	its own.	03:02:16
	And reach to their own fundraising. I think that.	03:02:20
	At some point, I don't remember.	03:02:24
	I don't think.	03:02:26
	It was ever like stated in writing, but I think in some of the conversation with.	03:02:28
	With reach when we.	03:02:33
	When the Council was talking that through.	03:02:35
	I think one of the ideas was that these projects would be fundraised.	03:02:37
	For and paid for.	03:02:40
	So.	03:02:41
	Technically, when we opened up the application process, anybody could apply for it, but that's something that the council may want	03:02:45
	to consider is a.	03:02:48
	Is whether?	03:02:52
	You know, again, just with.	03:02:53
	That ongoing conversation of trying to separate and be.	03:02:55
	Separate from reach and how?	03:02:59
	Close.	03:03:02
	Being and how much we end up sponsoring the activities.	03:03:03
	Up until now, since that separation, we've essentially like waived fees for fundraisers and things like that. This would be the	03:03:08
	first time that then we.	03:03:11
	We have funding going to to reach again so.	03:03:15
	So that's, that's a conversation.	03:03:18
	For the Council to consider.	03:03:22
	Great. And I do see they submitted 3.	03:03:24
	Applications so.	03:03:27
	I know there are in the other priority areas. Anybody have any questions about #2 I'm good with it.	03:03:29
	Anyone.	03:03:34
	No. OK, let's move on to #3.	03:03:35
	Boys and Girls Club.	03:03:39
	Of Oxnard and Port Hueneme.	03:03:41
	And it's for you guys. See it $10,000.	03:03:45
	Any any questions?	03:03:48
	And did I read that this was the youth?	03:03:51
	The umm.	03:03:55
	For the.	03:03:57
	Really did think to the teen center. Teen Center enabling field trips and supplies in support of the Winim 18 Center.	03:03:58
	So no, no, no identified trips.	03:04:05
	I don't believe there were any specifics. I think it was. It was pretty vague, yeah.	03:04:09
	It listed a whole bunch of things, but.	03:04:15
	It was just.	03:04:18
	Kind of already.	03:04:21
	Already.	03:04:23
	Have.	03:04:24
	And this is a new process, so.	03:04:26
	You know, just a couple of thoughts would be 1 is.	03:04:29
	The council could identify requests for additional information.	03:04:32
	Or, like you know, some.	03:04:36
	Specific questions that.	03:04:39
	You'd want us to go back and ask each group that.	03:04:40
	It's a new process so we could still customize it. We just started with the standard application.	03:04:44
	Yeah, and I and I do recall having a conversation about the Boys and Girls Club of Greater Oxnard in Port Hueneme.	03:04:49
	And I think vaguely I vaguely remember the conversation being around.	03:04:57
	Do we know if the funding will?	03:05:02
	Be in support of our Port wine me Boys and Girls Club or would it go to Oxnard Boys and Girls Club? So that's just a.	03:05:05
	It would go to the wine.	03:05:14
	So I do have a question.	03:05:16
	Yeah, so.	03:05:18
	Just in general, will we be asking the nonprofits to report back on what they actually spend the money on?	03:05:21
	Is there going to be any kind of?	03:05:31
	And accounting or measurement? Yeah. What what we are accomplishments, yeah. What we were planning to recommend to the council	03:05:34
	would be doing an annual report.	03:05:38
	You know, after, towards the end of the year, before next year's funding and essentially.	03:05:45
	The group would.	03:05:50
	Be notified ahead of time that they need to provide an annual report to be eligible for future year funding. So yeah, especially	03:05:51
	for repeat.	03:05:55
	You know, people who are coming back, repeat, return.	03:05:58
	Could it be possible?	03:06:05
	That each council member goes through this list.	03:06:07
	And if there's something that you do not want to support, you're right, no.	03:06:11
	And then we could.	03:06:16
	Collect the list and.	03:06:18
	Have a tabulation that we could come back to that's not very transparent.	03:06:20
	And I wouldn't support that.	03:06:24
	Well, I'll put my name on mine.	03:06:25
	Yeah, no, I'd prefer to have the discussion out.	03:06:27
	Everybody could hear what OK, then I would like to move 12 and 13.	03:06:31
	Not there yet. We're not there yet. We'll get there. We really want to get there. Any other questions for Boys and Girls Club?	03:06:36
	OK #4 why do me a high school robotics? I'm good with that.	03:06:43
	Public, OK.	03:06:50
	No, no comments.	03:06:58
	No comments at all.	03:07:00
	#5 real guppy.	03:07:05
	I'm good comments.	03:07:07
	Is there any other funding that goes to them?	03:07:11
	Not from the city.	03:07:17
	OK, they have other sources of other sources.	03:07:19
	It's like they're double, triple, quadruple dipping.	03:07:22
	No.	03:07:25
	No, I mean they.	03:07:26
	Not at all. I mean Kevin Brandon, if I may.	03:07:27
	He's not even a paid Edie for that and eventually, I hope eventually he's able to do that.	03:07:31
	But.	03:07:38
	Yeah, no, they're very exciting. The the probation department stepped up big time.	03:07:40
	So now they're really working with troubled kids and probation and stuff. I was out with them on the pier. But yeah, they're	03:07:45
	they're really.	03:07:48
	Expanded. I do believe Kevin has paid though.	03:07:51
	OK. Thank you.	03:07:54
	OK, any other any other comments?	03:07:56
	OK.	03:08:00
	OK, Police, OK Police Department is.	03:08:01
	One was pulled, so going to set #7 no, that, that's a different that it was not pulled.	03:08:04
	The police Explorers, we're skipping to the Explorers.	03:08:11
	We're talking about #2.	03:08:19
	Support when you Police Department. Oh, OK, I'm looking at the slide. Sorry, OK #7 Port Rainini police.	03:08:20
	Well, I have a question regarding that because aren't we giving them the proceeds from the Wine Amy Beach Festival now?	03:08:29
	Aren't they earning? They're getting.	03:08:36
	Yes, basically the Wine Amy Beach festival is.	03:08:38
	For the explorers now the explorers that we've partnered with the explorers where they.	03:08:41
	Are able to use the beach festival as a fundraiser, so they do receive revenues from.	03:08:46
	From.	03:08:52
	Items related to the Beach Festival.	03:08:53
	Any comments?	03:08:58
	OK, never mind.	03:09:02
	No, no, it's OK. It's OK.	03:09:03
	We just conflict of interest.	03:09:05
	Comment but that's OK.	03:09:07
	I don't receive any money.	03:09:12
	It's OK, no comment.	03:09:15
	Let's move on to.	03:09:18
	Here which is sorry.	03:09:20
	We'll move on to #8 which is.	03:09:23
	Nate's Place Wellness and Recovery Center.	03:09:26
	Comments please.	03:09:29
	I think this is a great thing to support. I'm really pleased with what they do.	03:09:34
	And how they do it.	03:09:40
	And hopefully they'll be able to find a new place.	03:09:42
	Any other comments?	03:09:48
	And so they do have a scale here.	03:09:51
	For their funding requests.	03:09:53
	I would just.	03:09:55
	If I could.	03:09:56
	Suggest suggest 10,000 for Nate's place.	03:09:58
	I agree with that.	03:10:02
	OK.	03:10:03
	So.	03:10:06
	Move on to.	03:10:09
	So that's the priority one.	03:10:11
	So you you all want to just keep going? Let's go down the list. OK, great.	03:10:14
	#9 on the sheet here is the animal.	03:10:17
	Theater production.	03:10:22
	And so.	03:10:25
	Can I comment on that?	03:10:27
	Yeah, so.	03:10:29
	There's more information in the application Animal Theater.	03:10:31
	Productions.	03:10:35
	Put together their professional production company, they put together Los Braceros.	03:10:38
	Mariachi Girl.	03:10:43
	And they were going to do mariachi girl here in Winimi.	03:10:45
	At the.	03:10:48
	Ox at the Port Hueneme Pavilion. But for some reason the pavilion.	03:10:52
	Was not available to them, so they are.	03:10:56
	Proposing.	03:10:58
	New production called I Mighty I Chihuahua.	03:11:00
	And the concept behind this was to it's going to cost way more than $5000.	03:11:05
	But the production was to be.	03:11:13
	Focus strictly on why Nimi residents there would be.	03:11:15
	Two showings.	03:11:19
	1A matinee and one evening showing.	03:11:21
	The idea was both showing would be free to win Amy residents.	03:11:25
	So that's still the plan. I just wanted to, you know.	03:11:30
	I think that.	03:11:35
	This would be a good cultural event for the city.	03:11:37
	I think it's fine at priority level 2. I would like to see it bumped up to priority one.	03:11:40
	If possible, if there's money available, because it's such a great production and it just doesn't serve the Hispanic community.	03:11:47
	It serves everybody who's who loves music.	03:11:55
	Who loves performing arts?	03:11:59
	And culture, so it has a wide appeal.	03:12:01
	To the community throughout.	03:12:05
	So we want to talk about conflict of interest. Did they not recently give you an award?	03:12:07
	No they did not and I recently awarded with something by that.	03:12:12
	I got some flowers in a plaque but it was not from the organization animal.	03:12:21
	OK, let's move on.	03:12:31
	Who's who's? I'm trying to find it. I can't find it. Is there a page number?	03:12:33
	I want to look at the application page 15 of 68.	03:12:37
	15 of 68.	03:12:43
	And the footer says page 15 of 68.	03:12:46
	There's a lot of things on the foot.	03:12:50
	Council member, as you're looking that up, I'll just note the original application was for a different production.	03:12:53
	So there were subsequent communication with the applicant.	03:12:58
	As Councilmember Hernandez indicated.	03:13:01
	The proposal is now for a different production I Chihuahua that would.	03:13:03
	Happens sometime in the fall of this calendar year.	03:13:07
	So the application, if you're looking for that, won't have the most current information.	03:13:11
	So is that I have a question there?	03:13:22
	So the process is such that if there's money.	03:13:24
	Available.	03:13:29
	Items under priority level 2 will be bumped up to level 1.	03:13:31
	Is that is that the plan?	03:13:36
	I think it's it's up to the council to determine how to proceed.	03:13:40
	The we had direction to put together an application process. So we we did that. We took it through the CAC, which I believe we	03:13:45
	also had direction to go through CAC.	03:13:49
	They prioritize them in priority 123.	03:13:54
	When we looked and saw that priority one was about $89,000.	03:13:57
	I think we ended up recommending in the report that it might be a good starting point to just start with priority one.	03:14:02
	Because remember that.	03:14:08
	There's still a process from here and it goes to the joint committee and and usually comes back and forth a couple of times, so.	03:14:09
	So there will be.	03:14:16
	I don't, I think today.	03:14:18
	Isn't intended to be a.	03:14:20
	Ending point. It's a starting point for the process.	03:14:22
	Obviously the council could say, well, we want to try to get priority one and priority 2IN and that would be $109,000.	03:14:26
	Of the $130,000 available and then we'd work with the.	03:14:33
	The port.	03:14:36
	I think the question then would just be clarification our direction from the Council on which items.	03:14:37
	You know are the highest priority ones to the council so that if items then fall off because we go over that $130,000 total.	03:14:44
	We know which items are the most important to advocate for, right? And I think it's important at least to go through priority to.	03:14:53
	Because we may find that.	03:15:01
	This is So what we are looking at here is the input from the advisory committee.	03:15:03
	Which might not be our decision.	03:15:09
	Right. So I think it's important for us to go through that and just to kind of.	03:15:11
	OK, the reason I asked, I guess I should have said why I'm asking this so we could avoid all this extra discussion, is because do	03:15:16
	I need to ask that it be bumped up now to?	03:15:21
	Priority level 1. Do I need to ask the council to do that if it's not automatically going to happen?	03:15:28
	Based on the availability of money.	03:15:34
	Yeah. So that'd be that'd be one good process forward would be give us what the councils priority one is now. So if there's	03:15:36
	something on one of the lower priorities that you want on level 1, tell us that. If there's something on level one that isn't	03:15:41
	level 1, tell us that. OK, let's just go through them all and then I'm not sure we can make a decision until we go through all.	03:15:46
	Yeah, let's go ahead and go through all of them. That's fine.	03:15:51
	Councilmember, I thought we were discussing.	03:15:56
	A Nemo.	03:15:59
	Animal. It's not spelled Animal, but.	03:16:01
	No anymore. Anymore.	03:16:05
	OK, so if you look.	03:16:07
	If you look down.	03:16:10
	The details.	03:16:11
	$2000 is for Inlet Keck.	03:16:13
	And Justice wanted to point that out because right.	03:16:16
	They're part of the crew, they're part of the production.	03:16:19
	Well, apparently.	03:16:22
	Councilmember Hernandez has all the answers on that so.	03:16:24
	I just think.	03:16:29
	You know, buried in this request is $2000 for in.	03:16:31
	Latex, which we already fund.	03:16:34
	Except they're not being funded. Yeah, when you say that we already funded that they're not being funded. This. Hold on, hold on.	03:16:38
	We haven't decided what's being funded yet.	03:16:44
	You're talking about last year or?	03:16:47
	This current year, this is for next year.	03:16:49
	All right, anymore other questions regarding?	03:16:54
	Animal. Animal.	03:16:58
	No more.	03:17:00
	Perfect. We'll move on to the next 1 then.	03:17:01
	That would be the VFW.	03:17:07
	That is.	03:17:11
	$10,000 for materials and labor associated with the replacement.	03:17:13
	Olivia W.	03:17:18
	Comments.	03:17:20
	I don't. I don't think we should.	03:17:23
	Support that.	03:17:26
	Comments Councilman Hernandez.	03:17:28
	I would support it because of the role that the VFW has in our community and and the various community.	03:17:32
	Umm, programs that they support.	03:17:40
	And it doesn't say that it can't be included if you look at the.	03:17:42
	Criteria. Umm.	03:17:47
	Community development #2 implementing joint initiatives that foster the Community's economic, social, environmental well-being,	03:17:49
	including but not limited to public infrastructure improvements. I think we all understand that it could be anything. OK, so.	03:17:57
	So we're going to go on the other side now, let her finish talking, and then I'm just OK, OK.	03:18:05
	But people have the opportunity to have their free thoughts heard, so let her finish What?	03:18:14
	She wants to say go ahead.	03:18:20
	The reason I brought that up, Councilman Gama, was because that seemed to be a point of discussion during the Citizens Advisory	03:18:21
	Committee, which I watched twice.	03:18:25
	And they seem to think that it wouldn't qualify because it hadn't been done before, but so I'm pointing that out.	03:18:30
	For that purpose.	03:18:37
	Umm, I do believe the VFW supports the community it has. They have plans for it to even be a backup.	03:18:39
	Location during an emergency, so.	03:18:47
	I support it and that's all I'm saying at this point.	03:18:50
	Great. Any other comments about it reach?	03:18:52
	I support it.	03:18:56
	OK. I'm sorry. That was the VFW. I'm sorry.	03:18:58
	So now we're going to go to #11 is reach.	03:19:01
	And that's $5000 for development of Walk of Freedom program, says Street light pole.	03:19:04
	Banner for veterans, OK.	03:19:12
	These are hanging up on the street light poles for veterans. Got it. Thank you.	03:19:16
	Comments Support and are we getting new banners?	03:19:21
	This it hasn't been approved yet, which is.	03:19:29
	I know, but if we approve it, are we getting new banners? Let's wait to get there and then we'll talk about it.	03:19:31
	But it's not approved. So why would we talk about something that's not even approved yet? Let's let's do.	03:19:36
	First step one, and then we'll move to Step 2.	03:19:41
	Council Member Hernandez, I would suggest because there's another item like this on the list that we send it back for.	03:19:44
	Further, umm.	03:19:52
	Review.	03:19:53
	What item are you referring to? Yeah, there's an item submitted way on item 15.	03:19:57
	OK.	03:20:11
	Screen over here it looks like the same program.	03:20:12
	But let us let's get there, because it's #15.	03:20:15
	And it's by a different person. So let's just kind of work our way. If you all just bear with, let's bear with each other.	03:20:18
	While we get.	03:20:24
	Get there.	03:20:25
	So we're on #11.	03:20:26
	And so any questions about #11?	03:20:28
	So what I what I read and what I understood was they were they were going to.	03:20:31
	They were going to use flags to.	03:20:36
	Honor our Port Wayne Amy veterans.	03:20:39
	Who served and they're going to line.	03:20:43
	The light poles with.	03:20:47
	Veterans. So yeah.	03:20:49
	They would be new banners because they would be honoring.	03:20:50
	Individual.	03:20:53
	Persons. The reason why I bring it up because we have banners that we've put up in the past.	03:20:54
	So is this for the banners or is this for the the cost of personnel staff to put them up?	03:21:00
	It would be to get.	03:21:08
	From how I read this would be.	03:21:09
	New veterans.	03:21:14
	No, Mr. Rawlings, do you have some comments, please?	03:21:15
	Some brief comments please.	03:21:22
	Wrong guy.	03:21:27
	I'm familiar with the city banners that.	03:21:29
	Councilman Gomer.	03:21:32
	That's a completely different situation.	03:21:34
	Those are banners that were set up.	03:21:37
	To promote various different city activities and programs along Ventura Rd.	03:21:39
	This particular project is a new.	03:21:46
	Project where we recognize strictly veterans.	03:21:50
	Who have served that airport? Riney, me, residents. So it's a whole new banners, but it's a whole different project.	03:21:54
	I do have an additional question.	03:22:01
	And so how do you?	03:22:03
	Ensure that.	03:22:05
	Are is it the plan to ensure that all?	03:22:07
	Veterans are.	03:22:10
	How do you how do you do that and where does it very similar, I think we had a.	03:22:14
	The Council had a discussion a while back regarding how we would recognize those people who turned 100 years old and how we would	03:22:19
	do.	03:22:24
	So very similar. We would have to set up criteria as to how long they lived here. You know what they served in that type of a	03:22:28
	thing.	03:22:33
	So those are I guess the details that will.	03:22:38
	You know, as a committee will be developing and we'll be working with the.	03:22:42
	Veterans groups and the Navy to kind of.	03:22:47
	You know, hone those in. So that's something that's positive to all, yes.	03:22:50
	And just one more, I just want to comment the reason I asked the question because we are a military city, so that means that we	03:22:56
	probably have a lot of veterans.	03:22:59
	That have come through here.	03:23:03
	So my question was really about how do you ensure you're representing?	03:23:05
	All veterans versus.	03:23:09
	Some and and how do you continue to do that?	03:23:12
	How do you continue to do that?	03:23:18
	In the development of this program, there's a number of cities right now that follow.	03:23:21
	Have done this particular thing.	03:23:26
	So we will probably be lending ourselves to see some of the various different criteria they did. I for example.	03:23:29
	Locally, I think Santa Paula is 1.	03:23:35
	There's a number of them like back east that like they have.	03:23:38
	Place their banners there of their people. You know, I'm thinking, I'm just thinking on the top of my head, but.	03:23:43
	You know, obviously.	03:23:50
	The veterans who.	03:23:51
	Are the oldest that have.	03:23:53
	Lived here the longest would be the first priority.	03:23:56
	And then you would move from there.	03:24:00
	Great. Thank you. Other questions go ahead.	03:24:02
	Council.	03:24:05
	I would hope to recognize.	03:24:06
	Those veterans who paid the ultimate sacrifice.	03:24:09
	And then perhaps.	03:24:13
	Go down the list, those have been.	03:24:15
	Injured in combat Purple Purple Heart recipients.	03:24:18
	I mean, the way it's being presented right now, it's very broad and.	03:24:21
	Way more veterans.	03:24:26
	Than there are available flags. So how many flags are we talking about? I mean we just don't have all the information. I think we	03:24:28
	well.	03:24:32
	I know 5000 may only just touch.	03:24:36
	On that. So we're gonna have to have some really clear.	03:24:40
	Priorities, some of the things that you mentioned me.	03:24:44
	You know, within the committee, maybe some of the standards that we develop.	03:24:47
	Go ahead. So my thought process on this is you guys would go through a comprehensive application process where you guys are	03:24:53
	identifying.	03:24:57
	You know, rack and stacking.	03:25:02
	Like Mr. Gama said.	03:25:04
	Those who pay the.	03:25:06
	Ultimate sacrifice.	03:25:08
	You know Pows.	03:25:09
	Miasa.	03:25:12
	And these are all residents of Port Hueneme.	03:25:13
	And then you just.	03:25:16
	Keep going down the list.	03:25:17
	Via an application process. Of course, the ones that are no longer here, but.	03:25:19
	Should be.	03:25:25
	That were winning me residents I would assume.	03:25:26
	Those would be on the list as well.	03:25:29
	So I'm assuming that's what you're going to do, right? You're going to go through a comprehensive application process?	03:25:31
	Yeah, absolutely. And we're going to have like some.	03:25:37
	Specific criteria.	03:25:40
	That we kind of go through there. I mean some of the thoughts that have come up by Councilman Gama and yourself and.	03:25:42
	Other councilmen.	03:25:48
	Would be included into that package.	03:25:51
	As to what the priorities might be.	03:25:54
	It was a good point.	03:25:57
	And then, you know, there's all sorts of little things like.	03:25:59
	You're being able to identify those people you know, you know, and.	03:26:04
	You know, working with their families and stuff like that to be able to identify.	03:26:08
	Whether they want impact, want that.	03:26:13
	To be part of the process.	03:26:15
	I mean, it's a very, it's a very positive thing, but it's a very sensitive thing.	03:26:17
	And we need to kind of understand that.	03:26:21
	On that note, I think it's a great idea support it fully.	03:26:25
	However, I think.	03:26:29
	I think more research needs to be done so that we could get an idea to to to achieve all the goals that you outlined.	03:26:31
	It may be more than $5000 so.	03:26:39
	I I just we're trying to pare down a list.	03:26:43
	We have too much on the list, so we do have to pare it down South. I'm just.	03:26:46
	Maybe, I don't know.	03:26:50
	Do you understand what I'm saying though? It's like I know and you know.	03:26:52
	You know, maybe kind of.	03:26:56
	In essence, what you're saying, the tip of the iceberg, it could be, I mean.	03:26:58
	I think what I mean, it's a positive thing to recognize as many people as we can, you know?	03:27:02
	Yes, I think what I'm saying is that if we.	03:27:07
	Approve this money and it takes you a year to get to the point to expense it then.	03:27:11
	Right. Maybe we should hold off until you have a complete program.	03:27:16
	Yeah, thank you. Thank you. Any other questions for Mr. Rawlings?	03:27:22
	Great. Thank you, Sir. Appreciate it.	03:27:25
	So we have come to the end, I think, of priority.	03:27:28
	And so just for a process check.	03:27:35
	I'd like to just ask a question.	03:27:38
	Looking at priority three items.	03:27:41
	Are there anything in priority three?	03:27:44
	That you all are.	03:27:47
	Believe needs to be.	03:27:49
	Bumped up to priority two.	03:27:51
	Or what?	03:27:53
	If not, we don't have to go over them.	03:27:54
	I I do want to comment on 12 and 13. I'm not sure that.	03:27:58
	They need to be.	03:28:02
	Bumped up.	03:28:03
	But I want to.	03:28:05
	Share a little bit about the discussion that was has.	03:28:07
	Share.	03:28:11
	Had during the Citizens Advisory Council about.	03:28:13
	These projects and there was some.	03:28:16
	Information shared that was not completely accurate.	03:28:19
	About the.	03:28:23
	Oxnard Performing Arts Center.	03:28:25
	And that the decision to put them in a Level 3 was not based on merit, it was not based on criteria, it was based on.	03:28:28
	An individual's understanding of.	03:28:35
	The history of the last mural that we did the library mural.	03:28:37
	And and this particular organization.	03:28:42
	So.	03:28:45
	And there was some concern about.	03:28:48
	The use of local artists and I just want to clear the record saying that the Oxnard Performing Arts Center.	03:28:51
	Who did the library mural?	03:28:57
	Did seek out local artists.	03:28:59
	Umm, they made every effort to try to get Winnie Me artists, but we could not find any, so they had to go beyond.	03:29:03
	Why NAMI into Oxford and even into Ventura to get.	03:29:10
	A local artist, so every effort when we do these kinds of murals.	03:29:13
	We certainly do believe and support the idea of using.	03:29:17
	Local artists.	03:29:22
	The the issue why I'm not pushing this up into a higher category is because at this point.	03:29:25
	We are seeking other sources of funding. It's not going to it's going to cost more than $10,000.	03:29:31
	The other thing is that, and I'm sure Councilman Gama, who really adored or being Carpenter, would like to see something like this	03:29:36
	done.	03:29:40
	Has the rest of the Council is.	03:29:44
	You know, or being had a rich.	03:29:46
	Deep history. He was a community icon.	03:29:49
	And the whole idea here is to honor this man.	03:29:52
	And.	03:29:56
	Honor his legacy in a.	03:29:58
	Umm, in a mural.	03:30:00
	On the building that he's named that's named after him.	03:30:02
	But the reason why I don't, I'm not going to ask for it to be bumped up is because it still has to go through a history heritage.	03:30:06
	Heroes award process, and that's probably in itself going to take about a year.	03:30:14
	In the meantime, that will give us an opportunity to seek out.	03:30:18
	Funding for it.	03:30:22
	But I do want to keep it on the list. I don't want to lose sight of it.	03:30:24
	But I hope that this is something that the Council can certainly support.	03:30:28
	There's a continuation of our public art program.	03:30:32
	I do not support.	03:30:35
	I have a problem with.	03:30:37
	Councilmember Hernandez's.	03:30:40
	Protect description of.	03:30:43
	The what lengths went to get Winnemi artists and.	03:30:47
	You know I.	03:30:52
	Have said and I know the art directors of.	03:30:54
	Many high schools and there are amazing talented artists that would love to come and work on our buildings and stuff and so I, I.	03:30:57
	Completely disagree with.	03:31:06
	That.	03:31:09
	OK. And I think we.	03:31:09
	Need to put effort into getting the high schools involved.	03:31:12
	And make it community art from community artists.	03:31:15
	Great. Thank you, Councilmember Perez. Well, I agree Mr. Carpenter did great many things and he served our community. I don't	03:31:19
	support.	03:31:23
	Murals.	03:31:27
	We're community servants. We're not.	03:31:29
	Presidents and kings and Queens. And he has a building named after him that honors him, and everybody uses and everybody knows his	03:31:31
	name.	03:31:34
	So I think putting money to a.	03:31:38
	Another mural.	03:31:39
	Is. I think it's a waste.	03:31:41
	Great. Thank you.	03:31:43
	So go right ahead.	03:31:45
	Oh, I'm jumping along, so I'm sorry. OK, I have nothing on that. OK, so back to the the question at hand is Level 3 priorities.	03:31:48
	Are we OK with them being Level 3? And we don't need to. There's nothing in there that we want to bump up.	03:31:58
	And if there isn't anything that will.	03:32:04
	Will go back up to the top.	03:32:07
	We don't want to bump, I don't want to bump up, but honestly, I just don't have.	03:32:10
	I just don't have the energy to consider Oxnard Performing Arts Center Corporation. I just don't. OK. All right. Thank you. OK.	03:32:17
	So, yeah, applicant.	03:32:21
	Or #15.	03:32:26
	The development of the Veterans of Portland Amy Heralds Walkway initiative.	03:32:28
	It reading that it looks like it would basically start the process of.	03:32:33
	Funding a pathway of a brick.	03:32:40
	Honoring the Port Hueneme veterans of.	03:32:45
	Of our community.	03:32:48
	And.	03:32:49
	Reading that is, I actually thought this was a good project to start. Basically it would have start funding.	03:32:51
	In the reading, it sounds like it would work with the city.	03:33:00
	With city staff to implement.	03:33:04
	A hero's walkway in.	03:33:06
	Port Hueneme somewhere.	03:33:08
	Either Bubbling Springs Park.	03:33:10
	Miranda Park.	03:33:12
	Somewhere where we can, you know, honor our veterans with the with the brick.	03:33:14
	So it sounds like this is a pathway to that.	03:33:19
	So I would like to bump that up.	03:33:23
	See if any if I got any support. I agree and I just wanted to state for the record Randall Thomas is a friend of mine. I spend	03:33:25
	every Saturday with them so if I have to recuse myself I will.	03:33:30
	OK.	03:33:36
	OK, so.	03:33:40
	Let's do this.	03:33:42
	Madam Clerk.	03:33:44
	Can we just take a quick vote?	03:33:46
	On Let's make a motion for this one item, and since it's your suggestion, Mayor Pro Tem, you can do it.	03:33:49
	And then we'll just take a vote.	03:33:56
	OK, well I motion to bump this up to a level 2.	03:33:58
	Which one?	03:34:02
	#15.	03:34:03
	I guess the maximum is 10,000, so we would have to change that.	03:34:06
	I'll second that bumping up.	03:34:09
	Level 2.	03:34:11
	Level 2 at 10,000.	03:34:12
	Yes.	03:34:14
	OK. Just for the record on that, so we had advised people that because we expected a lot of applications, we advised them not to	03:34:16
	request more than 10,000, but.	03:34:21
	It's there's no firm cap.	03:34:27
	Council, let me let me just say this real quick.	03:34:30
	So.	03:34:32
	So I would expect.	03:34:34
	That as a council.	03:34:36
	When we look at these items.	03:34:38
	We're not looking at them holistically as this is what was requested, therefore that is the project.	03:34:40
	We need to either. We need to also make a decision whether it's.	03:34:46
	The amount that they submitted.	03:34:50
	Or are we willing to give them something but maybe not that amount?	03:34:52
	So a couple of things. So let's make sure we.	03:34:55
	Doing that, yeah. So when I evaluate.	03:34:58
	So hold on man, hold, hold on a minute.	03:35:02
	We have a motion.	03:35:03
	We're stressing.	03:35:05
	But we have to do the motion. He's got a motion on the floor. So I had a motion, I had a second, you got a second, and we went.	03:35:07
	I just want to confirm, Councilmember Goma, you were the second.	03:35:13
	OK, OK, great. OK, so we have a second, so go ahead. I'm sorry discussion. OK, so.	03:35:15
	My comments on this particular item or when I look at.	03:35:21
	Applications I look at whether the applicant has matched.	03:35:26
	The criteria that was put out, so the first flag I saw in here was 15,000. OK, so he succeeded.	03:35:31
	The request by $5000, it was like the drone project $38,000. I mean that.	03:35:38
	Somebody did not do their homework and read.	03:35:43
	The application.	03:35:46
	Umm, the second thing that raised a red flag for me on here was that he's not.	03:35:49
	He's not a product nonprofit.	03:35:55
	So what's the fiduciary process that's going to be employed here? It wasn't a requirement.	03:35:57
	Well, my, my question still remains, what's the fiduciary process? We did well with all.	03:36:04
	Excuse me, hold on a minute. Let her finish. So with Coastal Keepers, we had the same issue because they were not a nonprofit, but	03:36:10
	we ended up.	03:36:14
	Giving them the money anyway because they were the port agreed to be their fiduciary agent.	03:36:18
	So I'm not.	03:36:23
	I'm not.	03:36:24
	Saying that it's not a good project and that I don't support it.	03:36:25
	But that.	03:36:29
	If we do agree to do this.	03:36:30
	That, umm.	03:36:33
	Randall's going to have to find.	03:36:35
	A fiduciary agent.	03:36:37
	To to do complete this project.	03:36:38
	And it sounds so familiar to.	03:36:42
	What the banner program?	03:36:46
	Wants to do so that's why I was hoping that the two entities could come together and come to some agreement and coming up with.	03:36:48
	A plan for recognizing.	03:36:56
	Veterans.	03:36:59
	I would recommend that.	03:37:00
	You know, I'm fine with you moving with moving it up, but let's do it at $10,000, not 15.	03:37:02
	Yep, I agree.	03:37:08
	Did did I understand that?	03:37:12
	Did I understand that any recommendation that exceeded 10,000 is only going to go forward at 10,000?	03:37:14
	No, it's up to the Council.	03:37:20
	OK.	03:37:23
	OK, we're ready. Yeah, no other discussion.	03:37:27
	OK, OK.	03:37:30
	Talking about the motion is again.	03:37:32
	To move the item to priority two.	03:37:34
	With 10,000 Dollar $10,000.	03:37:37
	Yes, all in favor.	03:37:40
	Aye, all opposed.	03:37:43
	Mayor McQueen.	03:37:46
	OK, so.	03:37:48
	Motion passes for one, with Mayor McQueen Legend voting no.	03:37:50
	Thank you. Thank you.	03:37:53
	All right. And so anything else on priority three?	03:37:55
	I just wanted to mention something on a 16.	03:37:59
	The one Amy sister cities.	03:38:02
	Again, this was a decision not based on merit or the.	03:38:05
	What was was not based on information that was included in the application. There were statements made that this just went.	03:38:10
	That the funding just went to City Council members so they can go to Port Puerto Vallarta. That's not the case of this particular	03:38:16
	application. I just wanted to.	03:38:21
	To state for the record.	03:38:26
	That it's for.	03:38:28
	Music and literature event at Wanini Beach not to send people to Puerto Vallarta.	03:38:30
	Great. Thank you.	03:38:37
	OK, any other item. Any other item.	03:38:39
	Want to move?	03:38:43
	OK, so that means that. So we've moved.	03:38:44
	Randall Thomas #15 up to priority two.	03:38:47
	The priority threes are still priority threes, so we're not going to be discussing them any further.	03:38:51
	And we missed 13.	03:38:56
	Now we we talked about that.	03:39:00
	Together, that's what.	03:39:02
	Oh, I didn't.	03:39:04
	You said you had a comment.	03:39:06
	You have another comment about.	03:39:07
	Yeah. Well, thirteen, I was just talking about item number 12, but 13, I'll just pass on knowing the sentiment of this, yeah.	03:39:09
	Well, we didn't. We didn't take weed him we didn't.	03:39:15
	Oh, I did.	03:39:20
	I thought we were, yeah. The question was, was there anything in priority three that you wanted to move up?	03:39:21
	Thank you.	03:39:27
	Can we ask like if there anything in priority to that we want to downgrade to three?	03:39:27
	To whittle this down if you want to do that.	03:39:33
	Yep. Does anybody, is there anything, is there anything a priority to that you want to move down to or or one?	03:39:39
	Is there anything in priority one or two that you want to move down to priority three?	03:39:46
	I'm good anything.	03:39:54
	Did you have something?	03:39:57
	Did we so?	03:39:58
	Any item on priority two.	03:40:02
	Is moving forward.	03:40:05
	No, no, OK. We're just. We're just.	03:40:07
	It's just we'll deal with that at another meeting or tonight.	03:40:09
	No, not tonight. OK, great.	03:40:13
	All right, we're good.	03:40:16
	So process, so we, we have we've reviewed items one, priority one and priority two.	03:40:18
	We've decided on one item, priority three.	03:40:23
	We're not going to review anything else in priority three because no one here wants to move.	03:40:25
	Them up, so we're good with that.	03:40:30
	So we're going to go back to prior. Is there anything from priority one or priority two that you think belongs in priority three?	03:40:31
	No. OK, let's do another process.	03:40:40
	Is there any start from #1 please?	03:40:43
	Is there anything on the list that you believe?	03:40:46
	The request for funding is an amount, and you believe it should be a different amount.	03:40:51
	I'm wondering where Banana festival, Beach festival is that going to be?	03:40:56
	Put into the priority ranking.	03:41:02
	Yeah, let's let's let's look at this.	03:41:04
	And then we we know that.	03:41:07
	From the beginning we said we know we have to think about Beach festival, we have to think about banana Festival.	03:41:09
	Right. Yeah, but it should.	03:41:14
	Do you have a? Did you have a sheet with that information on it? I thought you had a page that said these items.	03:41:16
	Our items.	03:41:22
	Yes, it's on.	03:41:24
	Page, can you turn to that page 7 of 70? Are you referring to the report or the PowerPoint presentation? It's in both this	03:41:25
	presentation.	03:41:29
	I think she's asking for the listing of.	03:41:37
	These projects right here.	03:41:40
	You know there's one item that's not on here is the first.	03:41:42
	Robotics event.	03:41:46
	That's right.	03:41:49
	What's part of the CBF fund which is $5000?	03:41:50
	Well, we have to remember the port is coming back with their list, so they'll probably include that, but that's the priority #1.	03:41:54
	This is just council list. Port will bring their own list. What you're talking about is the port.	03:42:00
	OK, that's.	03:42:06
	Anemia robotics. OK.	03:42:07
	So any suggestions on the next step?	03:42:09
	Any suggestions? I don't.	03:42:13
	OK, No items that, no items in one and two, that priority one and two that you want to move to three.	03:42:15
	So we're just looking at priorities 1 and 2.	03:42:21
	Can we just go through here really quickly?	03:42:23
	The Boys and Girls Club.	03:42:25
	Can we get clarity on exactly what, where the money's?	03:42:27
	What are we gonna spend the money on? Like what? What?	03:42:32
	I don't think it was crystal clear.	03:42:34
	So assume it's the teen center.	03:42:36
	Yeah, that's so broad.	03:42:39
	What? What?	03:42:41
	Or what?	03:42:42
	That teen center is already open.	03:42:44
	I think if we just whittle it down to what it.	03:42:47
	What exactly are they?	03:42:49
	Going to expand or?	03:42:50
	For field trips.	03:42:53
	It just it did say field trips, but.	03:42:55
	What? What?	03:42:57
	What are we getting at? What field trips?	03:42:59
	You could go back and watch the CAC meeting the boys and girls Rep was there and.	03:43:01
	So that information is available.	03:43:06
	Council member, it doesn't provide answers to all your questions, but I did just want to clarify the application does specify	03:43:09
	because this came up before that it will be used for the port one meeting center and the two categories that are referenced, our	03:43:14
	field trips and supplies to support the center. If the council wants additional detail, it's certainly something we can follow up	03:43:19
	with the applicant and get before making a decision. I would like to suggest that we.	03:43:24
	Get a spreadsheet like you did in the past.	03:43:30
	Which was landscaped.	03:43:33
	Multiple columns.	03:43:35
	And the column served to answer.	03:43:36
	The basic same questions.	03:43:39
	For each category.	03:43:41
	Because this is really hard to go through this format.	03:43:43
	But again, I think we we we have a list.	03:43:47
	But if we could landscape it and then.	03:43:50
	You know, try to answer, anticipate the questions that we're having.	03:43:53
	So that it kind of speaks to itself. So.	03:43:57
	With Boys and Girls Club.	03:44:00
	If it's going to be at the teen center.	03:44:02
	Great.	03:44:04
	So be it. Say it.	03:44:06
	Right. So let's just do it, do another step. So are we in agreement that priority one items are priority one items?	03:44:07
	We're in agreement with that. OK, great. So let's start with the priority one items and just go down the list and say are these	03:44:15
	the amounts that we want?	03:44:19
	To remain for that, for that item, I think when we approved them, we approved the amounts unless we said differently.	03:44:24
	When you say we approved them, we haven't approved. I mean, while we've approved them to be where they are on the list, we didn't	03:44:30
	talk about.	03:44:33
	The funds, I don't think that's not why.	03:44:37
	OK, let's go through. OK, let's let's let's just do it.	03:44:40
	OK.	03:44:43
	Beating a dead horse here.	03:44:46
	I think we've satisfied what we set out to satisfy tonight.	03:44:48
	So can we bring it back with a little more clarity and.	03:44:52
	Perhaps. I would not bring it back. I think we need to send it off to the port for their discussion. We're just holding up the	03:44:56
	process.	03:44:59
	Let's go ahead with your process. Let's do this.	03:45:02
	I'll start from #1 And you just say if you don't want the amount to change, just say you don't want them out to change. It's not	03:45:06
	that hard. And then will this will be our price since you've already said priority one is priority one.	03:45:11
	This will be our priority list.	03:45:17
	OK, so.	03:45:18
	Number one equine, that's 493391. Everybody's OK with that.	03:45:22
	Great. Thank you.	03:45:28
	There.	03:45:29
	Any questions?	03:45:31
	Everybody's about that.	03:45:32
	Umm #2 is reach city manager? I did have a question about that $6000 so if you could help find out what the caught that cost is	03:45:34
	for.	03:45:39
	#3 is for $10,000. I think Mayor Pro Tem wants to know a little more about the trip.	03:45:46
	And the materials, is that correct?	03:45:53
	Yes. OK. So we'll we'll look at that number later.	03:45:55
	Winemi Robotics is $10,000. Any kind of any questions?	03:46:00
	No, that seemed accurate. I mean, I have no idea about the.	03:46:06
	Program the only.	03:46:09
	I read the application, it's pretty detailed. It's pretty detailed but my only.	03:46:11
	Concern would be to make sure they have a program.	03:46:16
	They do. It's there in the applicants.	03:46:20
	OK.	03:46:24
	Everybody OK with that?	03:46:25
	OK.	03:46:27
	Real.	03:46:28
	Yeah, real guppy.	03:46:30
	I'm good outdoor. Everybody's good with that.	03:46:32
	OK, umm.	03:46:35
	Port Hueneme police explores.	03:46:36
	There was some conversation about the Beach Fest. Did you want to pick that up or you will have any questions about that? I just	03:46:40
	wanted to make my concern.	03:46:43
	Share my concern.	03:46:47
	Is everybody good with a 10,000?	03:46:48
	Yep, OK.	03:46:51
	#8 Nate's Place.	03:46:52
	10,000.	03:46:55
	I think was what we.	03:46:56
	Somebody motion to change it to 10,000.	03:46:58
	Yeah.	03:47:03
	Did the same. I wrote down 10,000, so I think somebody said it, yeah. So everybody's good with 10,000.	03:47:04
	OK.	03:47:12
	Let's see. And that's that's priority one.	03:47:16
	And everything else stays on the list when it priority the port, yeah, it's priority too. And we'll we'll add based on what we	03:47:21
	receive.	03:47:24
	And so do I know you all don't.	03:47:29
	Do you happen to know what that number is without the adjustments?	03:47:32
	The number of what priority one is or priority?	03:47:36
	Already.	03:47:39
	Just what we just agreed to. Party 1 I believe is 55,934.	03:47:40
	What's up on the screen? Yes, I guess it's the it's the first on that range there and that if we include 10,000 versus to 15,000,	03:47:47
	Yeah. And then if we include the 30,000 for the Beach Fest, Banana Fest and 5K, that would put us at 85,934.	03:47:54
	And then priority two items would be.	03:48:01
	Think adding that.	03:48:05
	One item to the.	03:48:08
	Randall Thomas is item 2, priority two. That would be another 30,000 potentially.	03:48:10
	So that would put us.	03:48:15
	At a total of what is that 119?	03:48:16
	Which is pretty close to the our one.	03:48:19
	Pretty pretty close to the top.	03:48:23
	So, all right, sounds good. Everybody OK with that?	03:48:26
	Does it include the beach fest and the 5K? Yeah.	03:48:29
	Second, OK. And so I know there were a couple that more information was asked for. Since there is more process to this, we'll get	03:48:34
	that information and share it.	03:48:38
	In the meantime, while it's going.	03:48:43
	Well, it's still kind of routing through the process.	03:48:45
	OK.	03:48:50
	OK, so.	03:48:58
	Is there a The recommendation is to review applications for funding.	03:49:00
	From the Community Benefit Fund taken into consideration and recommendation provided by the Citizen Advisory Commission.	03:49:05
	And offer guidance to the council representatives on the city import.	03:49:12
	I think we've done that. City Manager, is there a motion?	03:49:17
	To approve or accept.	03:49:22
	The recommendation?	03:49:24
	Of these items and what we've given to the city manager.	03:49:25
	2nd.	03:49:29
	Great. Thank you. Any any further discussion?	03:49:30
	No, Madam Clerk, can we take a roll call, please?	03:49:34
	Councilmember Gama.	03:49:37
	Absolutely.	03:49:40
	Councilmember Hernandez, Yes.	03:49:41
	Councilmember Perez, yes, Mayor Pro Tem Lopez, yes, and Mayor McQueen Lashon, yes. Motion passes unanimously. Thank you. We'll	03:49:43
	move to item number 10. Recommendation for City Council to direct staff to draft an ordinance.	03:49:49
	Restricting the sale of and distribution of.	03:49:55
	Nitrous.	03:50:00
	Oxides, thank you.	03:50:02
	I'm going to say something I haven't yet today which I think this item will be quick and simple.	03:50:05
	So.	03:50:13
	We're what we're doing today is we aren't asking for an ordinance to be approved yet.	03:50:14
	And so we don't need to get super into the weeds. What we're looking for is general direction.	03:50:22
	And the idea being that we've identified an issue we're asking.	03:50:27
	For the authority to have the city attorney's office spend some time drafting an ordinance, but.	03:50:32
	Just sort of as a standard procedural issue as the city attorney works for the City Council, so we're asking the city attorney,	03:50:38
	the City Council to.	03:50:41
	Authorized the city attorney to draft that ordinance for.	03:50:46
	For us.	03:50:49
	And so the subject is.	03:50:50
	Essentially.	03:50:52
	Nitrous oxide use.	03:50:54
	Are actually the sell and distribution of nitrous oxide.	03:50:56
	We've been seeing a dramatic increase.	03:50:59
	Of usage of nitrous oxide by.	03:51:05
	Youth in our community.	03:51:08
	It's something that.	03:51:10
	It's a world I didn't really know about.	03:51:13
	I've always seen these little canisters that are shown in the picture and I thought that they were just things people bought for	03:51:15
	their cars, but apparently.	03:51:18
	You can see some of those look like.	03:51:22
	Almost like the candy labeling or things like that. And apparently it's it's actually.	03:51:24
	Essentially advertised even though it's not supposed to be and sold to youth.	03:51:30
	For for use as a as an illegal substance.	03:51:35
	And so.	03:51:40
	It's something that we've noticed, it's something our police departments been dealing with and responding to and we.	03:51:42
	Have gotten to the point where we want to find other tools to try to address this issue.	03:51:48
	I I.	03:51:54
	Was going to give an opportunity if the Chiefs still here and I think he is here yeah to.	03:51:56
	For the chief to just talk a little bit about what the officers are seeing and why this is, is really an issue that we need to	03:52:01
	tackle.	03:52:04
	And so, Chief, do you want to speak a little bit about?	03:52:09
	I also see a paint can.	03:52:12
	Down there.	03:52:14
	And, you know, we pick a lot of that up on the beach and these canisters as well. Go ahead. Yeah, I was, I was shocked myself when	03:52:15
	I came back as chief to see.	03:52:19
	Just how much use is out there?	03:52:24
	There's also a lot of youngsters I know in this community.	03:52:27
	In several of the neighborhoods.	03:52:31
	Where the friends are using it and.	03:52:33
	They will openly tell you you can see the drastic difference in their friends after just months of huffing because it becomes such	03:52:36
	a.	03:52:39
	Prolific.	03:52:42
	Easy, quick high.	03:52:43
	We have sections.	03:52:46
	Well, I'll even back up to this.	03:52:49
	I backed an officer on a column Marina Village.	03:52:51
	And I couldn't figure out what the the the female suspect was that we were was doing as we're approaching.	03:52:53
	He goes up and I get out of my car.	03:52:58
	And she turns away from him.	03:53:00
	To continue huffing to the last minute until he walks up and takes it out of her head.	03:53:02
	It's become that.	03:53:06
	Addictive of a high.	03:53:09
	And all the officers can give you examples of that and.	03:53:11
	You'll find youngsters sitting on curbs behind cars, huffing, and then they put the canister down there.	03:53:14
	So it's it's a brain cell killer.	03:53:20
	What we have, we have sections in place in the state to use for possession.	03:53:23
	And the officers are utilizing it.	03:53:29
	There's really limited on what we can do.	03:53:31
	To the retailers who are selling these to kids when they shouldn't.	03:53:35
	So that's where we're asking for the help here is how do we stop them from getting out of the shops in town?	03:53:39
	Anything else on that?	03:53:46
	And if I may, prior to this, I did some extensive research on what where the juvenile, the youth in our community, where they're	03:53:47
	accessing this.	03:53:52
	So I went to every single smoke shop if you will, that doesn't.	03:53:56
	I'm not saying smoke shop to include cannabis dispensaries, it's just a traditional smoke shop in regards to.	03:54:00
	Nicotine products, tobacco products, things like that. So.	03:54:06
	Smoke shops, every single one or city sells it.	03:54:09
	And along with the balloons to a lot of the times with those canisters as you see on the top, there's the little nozzle.	03:54:12
	The product that comes out of it is way too cold to put your mouth on it, so they take these balloons and then they refill it and	03:54:19
	that's how they use it to.	03:54:23
	Essentially get their high.	03:54:27
	And so with every single smoke shop in our city selling it, I think that's a.	03:54:28
	Important thing to tackle.	03:54:34
	Thank you. Yeah, it's such a.	03:54:37
	Thing I'm not used to that. When I first saw the ad for it, they advertised in different ways, but one of the things we saw was	03:54:39
	they called it like a whipped cream recharge.	03:54:43
	A recharger.	03:54:50
	And but then you read the description and it literally says like, this is how they're advertising it is.	03:54:52
	This whipped cream recharger will take you on a trip.	03:54:58
	Or, you know, things like that, and it's so obvious that it's really a drug.	03:55:02
	And so and it's.	03:55:06
	Being marketed with the bright colors and like you know, kid kid friendly graphics and things like that.	03:55:07
	Yeah, it was interesting because I was like, I'm going to ask the question.	03:55:15
	Are they selling it in a report? Why need me? Then I said no, I'm not gonna ask that silly question because no, they're not	03:55:18
	selling it here in Fort Wayne.	03:55:21
	But they are selling it here, correct? Yeah, I was just curious one day and so I just went to every single smoke shop that we have	03:55:24
	and every single one is selling it behind the counter.	03:55:29
	I think this is a really strong step forward for our city, but I also think we need to reach out to the city of Oxnard. I mean, so	03:55:35
	oh, it's not at that smoke shop. You just go across the street will be at the other smoke shop in Oxnard, so.	03:55:41
	And then we should.	03:55:48
	Probably even elevate this to the county and then hopefully to the state because.	03:55:49
	It all makes sense to me now, I can tell you.	03:55:53
	So many of these little.	03:55:58
	There's little bottles, there's big bottles, but we pick them up on the beach all the time. It's a it's a great point. And other	03:56:00
	cities in California are doing the same thing right now. We've actually looked at some other ordinances, so.	03:56:06
	You're right for the county. Let's be leaders in public safety, folks, and let's grab it and run with it and then.	03:56:12
	Be the example for some other.	03:56:18
	Thank you, Officer from for your report and Chief.	03:56:23
	So, umm.	03:56:27
	If vape shops, smoke shops are selling this.	03:56:29
	Behind the from behind the counter? What are they selling it for?	03:56:32
	Obviously the one people that are coming and buying it, they're not explicitly saying what they're using it for. The intended	03:56:38
	purpose of these, like was previously stated, is technically a food grade product. It's whipped cream.	03:56:44
	Every single canister that you'll see, they're all flavored individually. You'll see everything from mango to.	03:56:50
	OK, so sorry to interrupt.	03:56:56
	So I guess I'm trying to get at, does it have a utilitarian value to, you know, using a vape cigarette or you know, a vape device?	03:56:58
	Is it associated with their product that they're actually?	03:57:05
	There to sell, OK. No, not at all. Thank you.	03:57:11
	The When we looked at other city ordinances, other cities will exempt.	03:57:14
	Them for.	03:57:20
	Their actual allowed uses, which is like nitrous oxide for a car to make your car faster. Yeah, yeah. Which, you know, would not	03:57:22
	necessarily encouraging that anyway.	03:57:28
	But like I said, the other one was like, as they call it, like a whipped cream recharger, which is I guess to actually recharge	03:57:35
	your whipped cream dispenser devices.	03:57:39
	And so there are like exceptions for.	03:57:44
	In most of the ordinances we looked at, it's something that we'd look at doing is there's exceptions for those legitimate uses.	03:57:47
	But obviously if you're buying it for your car, you're not buying a flavored.	03:57:54
	You know, mango flavored from a smoke shop for your car?	03:57:59
	Providing the balloons, correct, Right, Right. Yeah, I've seen that. I've seen that. Well, the smoke, one of our smoke shops had	03:58:03
	the balloons right above.	03:58:07
	The the canisters themselves so they know what.	03:58:12
	The purpose is when they're selling these things. Yeah. And the question, Mayor?	03:58:14
	Yes. So how is this being? It's obvious if.	03:58:18
	Flavored product.	03:58:23
	Is used for consumption, so how is this even legal? I mean I don't understand how it's just so.	03:58:24
	The limitations on even what?	03:58:30
	Like it's just a log right? The VMP section requires them to log their sales of it.	03:58:33
	This is why.	03:58:38
	Somebody's got to care.	03:58:40
	This exactly what you're saying it's like somebody's got to pay attention and care so we can do it local levels and then they can	03:58:42
	take it bigger but.	03:58:45
	We can control what we can control.	03:58:48
	So we can do something in the immediate.	03:58:50
	As fast as we move on this.	03:58:52
	And then hope others start falling.	03:58:55
	The legitimate uses are typically in a little.	03:58:58
	Silver bullet type looking thing and I know it Anna Cappuccino. That's how they.	03:59:03
	Get the cream to be whipped cream.	03:59:07
	And they're, but they're, they're individual shooters Then you know, they last for probably 30 dispenses and they put another one	03:59:10
	in.	03:59:13
	But I mean these things, they.	03:59:16
	Absolutely have a.	03:59:18
	Mouthpiece that you suck on and it's just it's or you put a balloon on and.	03:59:21
	And.	03:59:27
	We've been finding balloons, canisters.	03:59:29
	And now it all makes sense. So yeah, we need to ban this stuff.	03:59:32
	Lots of things.	03:59:36
	In the retail market.	03:59:37
	That started out with good intentions.	03:59:38
	Yeah.	03:59:42
	Thank you for bringing it forward.	03:59:43
	Mayor Pro Tem.	03:59:46
	So if we do enact an ordinance, are we going to?	03:59:48
	Prohibit.	03:59:52
	The possession.	03:59:53
	Of this item to an 18 year old like.	03:59:55
	That say you know someone who's 17 years old is huffing this.	03:59:57
	And you guys rolled up on him?	04:00:01
	What's going to happen? We already have that in place.	04:00:02
	We are protected by a California Penal Code in regards to, you know, using it for illicit purposes. So if I roll up, say something	04:00:06
	behind the library, for example.	04:00:09
	I've literally pulled a balloon out of someones mouth because they're using it for illicit purposes and that person then got	04:00:14
	charged with.	04:00:17
	The 381 section.	04:00:21
	So luckily we have that in place. I think the intent of this is to ban the sale.	04:00:22
	In the city altogether, stop the supply.	04:00:27
	Correct. Thank you.	04:00:29
	Youngster There's kids as young as 1415.	04:00:31
	To stop them from just walking up.	04:00:37
	Two or four blocks to.	04:00:40
	Thank you.	04:00:46
	Any other question?	04:00:47
	No, OK.	04:00:48
	Any public comments?	04:00:51
	No public.	04:00:53
	OK, before us, we have a recommendation to direct the city attorney to draft an ordinance prohibiting the sale and distribution.	04:00:54
	Of nitrous oxide within the city of Port Hueneme and an effort to enhance.	04:01:01
	Public safety.	04:01:05
	Is there a motion and a second? So move to 2nd?	04:01:07
	Any further discussion?	04:01:11
	Madam Clerk, can you take a roll, please?	04:01:13
	All in favor.	04:01:15
	All opposed.	04:01:17
	Hearing none, motion passes unanimously.	04:01:18
	Thank you. Thank you so much.	04:01:21
	We'll move to item.	04:01:23
	Excuse for a moment, Sure.	04:01:25
	We're going to move to item 11, Broadband Master Plan update. Will staff please present the report?	04:01:29
	Yes, thank you.	04:01:38
	Sorry, Aaron, you got a.	04:01:40
	So I.	04:01:44
	So I'm going to introduce Aaron, our IT Manager.	04:01:49
	I think just before I do that I want to quickly note.	04:01:53
	That we are. One of the things we're trying to do right now is we have some master plans that are adopted and those master plans	04:01:57
	have projects.	04:02:01
	And we're trying to look at those projects realistically and look at those projects.	04:02:05
	Particularly against.	04:02:10
	Our sort of our preliminary budget numbers for the next couple years and try to figure out when.	04:02:12
	You know when and how we can implement some of those projects.	04:02:18
	But it's also some of the plans had been drafted.	04:02:21
	Several years.	04:02:25
	In the past where I think maybe there was a different economic climate.	04:02:26
	And so I think.	04:02:31
	We're trying to look at these master plans realistically and.	04:02:32
	And really look at which projects are achievable.	04:02:36
	I can tell you there is one master plan that had talked about creating a new department with a whole new team.	04:02:40
	And looking ahead, I don't see how that's really economically achievable in the next couple of years.	04:02:45
	So, so we're just trying to look at all the master plans, be realistic, but also.	04:02:51
	Also, try to start planning for them so we could actually start implementing some of the goals of those plans.	04:02:56
	So with that in mind, we.	04:03:02
	Asked Aaron, our A-Team manager, to.	04:03:05
	Start looking at the broadband master plan.	04:03:08
	And sort of.	04:03:11
	Get the goals in that plan that we can accomplish.	04:03:13
	Now, which ones might have to be accomplished a little later and then?	04:03:16
	Ultimately, if there's some.	04:03:20
	Goals that we are recommending.	04:03:21
	Removing from the master plan. And so with that, I'll ask Aaron to walk us through that.	04:03:23
	Good evening, Mayor, Mayor Pro Tem, council members.	04:03:30
	City staff and members of the public.	04:03:35
	As City Manager Vega mentioned, part of the review that we did in this was because this plan seemed to have been.	04:03:37
	Developed at a time where there was a significantly different economic environment.	04:03:45
	And also at the time the plan was developed, there was no funding mechanism in place to accomplish some of these goals.	04:03:51
	We've reviewed.	04:04:00
	Some of the solution or the plans that were in there and those are going to be the concentration of tonight's presentation is	04:04:02
	recommendation on the five specific phases that were developed.	04:04:07
	Again, this was developed in.	04:04:13
	2023.	04:04:17
	Phase one is the Ventura County Middle Mile project that was called out and that is.	04:04:20
	An existing project to bring a backbone.	04:04:26
	Internet throughout the county.	04:04:28
	We are there are current efforts in place.	04:04:31
	Along the 126 Freeway, Simi Valley and Upper Ojai to produce.	04:04:34
	This backbone, it will not be direct connections for the public.	04:04:40
	It will be the backbone to carry all of the Internet traffic into the.	04:04:44
	Larger basin area and out to.	04:04:49
	The World Wide Web.	04:04:52
	Their city staff, myself.	04:04:56
	Primarily, umm.	04:04:59
	Are still members of the V Cog Broadband working Group, and so I continue to advocate for bringing additional resources into the.	04:05:00
	City of Porto Anemia, if we do have some.	04:05:09
	Opportunity to develop that.	04:05:12
	So the recommendation for phase one is to retain this phase.	04:05:14
	Phase 2 is specifically regarding city facilities.	04:05:20
	Recommend and connect connections between the library.	04:05:25
	Community Center, City Hall, Public Works and the housing building.	04:05:29
	It also calls for enhancement of services at the Wenimi Beach Park.	04:05:34
	For both economic and tourism.	04:05:38
	One of the things that was.	04:05:43
	Missing from the.	04:05:45
	Recommendation was the fact that.	04:05:47
	City Hall, public works and housing buildings are already connected by fiber that the city owns. It has been in place.	04:05:49
	The branch library is not a city resource specifically.	04:06:00
	But they do have a significant broadband connectivity there already.	04:06:04
	And then in reference to the Wyoming Beach Park.	04:06:10
	City Council recently approved the.	04:06:14
	Services from SCAG on the latter grant.	04:06:18
	With the plan to develop.	04:06:21
	Increases at the Wendy Beach to address some of the needs that we have there.	04:06:25
	We've already begun.	04:06:31
	Interviewing.	04:06:32
	Key stakeholders.	04:06:35
	From the area.	04:06:37
	In part.	04:06:40
	For it is includes city staff.	04:06:41
	For our projects to potentially put.	04:06:44
	Cameras at the beach.	04:06:49
	We need to support our Rani Beach Festival. There's been significant challenges for.	04:06:52
	Vendors who have presented or provided services there, they're unable to use even with.	04:06:57
	Let's see, Verizon brought in a.	04:07:05
	Device to supplement services.	04:07:08
	Costco brought in device to supplement services, but they still struggle at those locations.	04:07:11
	And some of the.	04:07:17
	Resources that the city utilizes for the beach parking machines could significantly benefit from increased bandwidth.	04:07:20
	At the one you've each part.	04:07:27
	So we're recommending that we reduce the scopes.	04:07:29
	On Phase 2.	04:07:32
	The details of the funding were not broken out to the level that we would have liked on this event, so we don't know the exact	04:07:35
	difference in the.	04:07:39
	Present in the amount that would be.	04:07:45
	Utilized for this phase, but specifically the city buildings have already been connected. So that's a significant reduction in	04:07:48
	that price.	04:07:51
	And part of the latter grant would include seeking funding on behalf of the city.	04:07:56
	To provide the services that they identify for that region.	04:08:02
	Phase 3 is an integration of schools and the city network was a recommendation.	04:08:08
	When staff contacted the school district, they indicated they are already significantly served by Internet and didn't find that.	04:08:16
	Partnering with the city would.	04:08:25
	Provide any benefit to them.	04:08:27
	So we're recommending that we remove phase three from the plan.	04:08:29
	Phase 4 is a term they use of diversity.	04:08:35
	And we are recommending that we retain this and it wouldn't change from the initial plan or what staff are continuing to explore	04:08:40
	as options to expand.	04:08:45
	The way that we can.	04:08:50
	Connect our anchor institutions, which would include City Hall.	04:08:52
	Fire Department.	04:08:57
	The Community Center potentially and so we recommend that we retain this phase and staff will continue to work on.	04:08:59
	Options to provide diversity to the Internet connectivity that.	04:09:08
	Services.	04:09:13
	And then Phase 5 was Wine Emit Bay. There was a significant area there at Wyoming Bay that was considered unserved or underserved	04:09:17
	based on the.	04:09:22
	California Public Utilities Commission.	04:09:28
	Standards for Internet service.	04:09:31
	The board of directors at the HOA have already selected a vendor to serve as a replacement for their fiber optic.	04:09:35
	Services there.	04:09:44
	The city has additionally approved.	04:09:46
	An application to construct a cell tower to service the.	04:09:49
	Residents at Winnemi Bay.	04:09:53
	And that combination of services will significantly increase the level of service for those areas. And so we'll remove that area	04:09:57
	from the unserved or underserved status.	04:10:03
	So the recommendation for fave 5 would be that we would remove this phase from.	04:10:09
	The master plan.	04:10:14
	The master plan also included a dozen.	04:10:18
	Next steps.	04:10:21
	That were recommended.	04:10:23
	The first one was the creation of an Advisory Board and at this point we would recommend that that is an unnecessarily step.	04:10:25
	Since the.	04:10:35
	City staff are already in county white committees.	04:10:38
	And with the reduction?	04:10:43
	Of the scope of work for the other phases.	04:10:45
	The need for an advisory committee seems to no longer exist.	04:10:49
	Steps 5 and 6 discuss.	04:10:55
	Creating an enterprise fund and financing strategy.	04:10:58
	Stuff is recommending that the city pursue, not pursue.	04:11:02
	Become an immuncial service provider so there's not a need for an enterprise fund.	04:11:07
	The phase.	04:11:13
	Projects that are remaining.	04:11:14
	Exactly that. They are projects and not ongoing services, so we don't recommend that.	04:11:18
	We would need an enterprise fund or funding strategy for that.	04:11:24
	And then one of the final steps that was recommended was a donation of surplus equipment.	04:11:31
	To uh.	04:11:36
	Help the community that may be underprivileged and not have access to those things but.	04:11:38
	In my personal experience in the past with trying to do that with for the city.	04:11:44
	The equipment that we're getting rid of is not usable equipment.	04:11:50
	The reason we're taking it out of service generally is that.	04:11:55
	It is not.	04:11:59
	It may have made sense if we had stuck with the IT master plan.	04:12:00
	Of replacement at a three-year schedule but with the current replacement.	04:12:06
	Schedule we are considering due to the financial situation.	04:12:10
	Equivalents not going to be usable.	04:12:14
	When we did do it in the past.	04:12:16
	Much like the previous discussion, we had applicants and we wanted to consider.	04:12:21
	Applicants for the surplus equipment to be members of the.	04:12:28
	City of Port Hueneme.	04:12:33
	And so we gave them the priority for that.	04:12:35
	Then we went and.	04:12:38
	Picked the nonprofit organizations within the city who had applied but.	04:12:40
	By the time we got in their list of potential equipment, they just didn't even want to pick it up any longer, so.	04:12:46
	It's it's certainly more environmentally friendly for us to recycle that equipment.	04:12:56
	So we recommend.	04:13:02
	Not donating surplus equipment.	04:13:04
	And so in summary.	04:13:09
	We were We recommend that the City Council approve the amendments to the plan.	04:13:11
	Which would result in an estimated reduction of future project cost of impact.	04:13:16
	Approximately $4,293,000.	04:13:21
	We would accept guidance from.	04:13:25
	The City Council on any adjustment, other recommendations and then eventually.	04:13:30
	Staff will return with a consent item to summarize the changes.	04:13:35
	That we make here tonight.	04:13:41
	And I'm available for any questions you may have.	04:13:43
	Any questions?	04:13:47
	Mayor. Mayor Pro Tem.	04:13:48
	In Phase 2.	04:13:53
	In Phase 2.	04:13:55
	We the last mile.	04:13:58
	There's a program Last mile that goes to Wyoming Beach.	04:14:00
	Is any that factored in to in Phase 2?	04:14:03
	Because that was grant money from what I understand.	04:14:07
	There is not a current grant that the city has applied for. Part of the latter grant would be to.	04:14:10
	Take advantage of those grant opportunities.	04:14:16
	If we can identify a project.	04:14:19
	To actually develop and bring broadband Internet to the Winnipeg Beach Park.	04:14:23
	OK. And then has there been any?	04:14:29
	Private entities.	04:14:33
	Wanting to put S lights.	04:14:36
	Near the beach.	04:14:38
	You know.	04:14:40
	Near Bard because there's like really no reception in some of these areas.	04:14:42
	Yeah, and there's not been any.	04:14:46
	Entity that has come to the city asking for that outside of.	04:14:49
	The one cell tower that was placed at.	04:14:53
	The one you Bay.	04:14:56
	OK. Thank you.	04:14:58
	Any other questions? I have a just a quick question for Aaron. Aaron, thank you for all your work on this and staff was really	04:15:00
	good job and it's such an important.	04:15:05
	Element of.	04:15:10
	For us to be able to deliver.	04:15:11
	This kind of service to our community.	04:15:13
	You know I sit on V cog.	04:15:16
	And I hear about lots of.	04:15:18
	Different grant opportunities, but you're also on the advice on the.	04:15:20
	Subcommittee, right? Yes, for broadband. So you're getting all this information correct, OK.	04:15:24
	So I'm running to.	04:15:30
	To city manager whenever I hear a grant.	04:15:32
	But I, you know, I don't. I guess I don't need to do that if you're already.	04:15:34
	Getting that right.	04:15:39
	I'm participating if you have a different line of.	04:15:40
	Information that may be helpful to the city manager can pass along to me. I welcome the information. All right, Well, I'll just	04:15:45
	continue doing that and.	04:15:49
	Make sure it gets down to you. Thank you.	04:15:53
	Any other questions?	04:15:56
	If not, are there any public comments?	04:15:58
	No.	04:16:00
	Great. We have before us a recommendation to receive an update regarding the city's broadband Master plan and approved	04:16:02
	Recommended.	04:16:05
	Amendments to the plan resulting in the reduction of.	04:16:09
	Future project costs of approximately 4,293,000. They have a motion and a second to move.	04:16:12
	2nd.	04:16:20
	Any further discussion?	04:16:22
	If not, Madam Clerk, please take a roll call.	04:16:24
	All in favor.	04:16:27
	Aye, all opposed.	04:16:28
	Hearing none, motion passes unanimously.	04:16:30
	Great. Thank you. We'll move over now to our City Manager comments and reports.	04:16:33
	Thank you.	04:16:38
	I'm gonna try to keep them very quick.	04:16:40
	Where's the clicker? Yeah, OK.	04:16:43
	Thank you.	04:16:47
	All right. So quickly we have a few good news items we wanted to share and some recent happenings.	04:16:50
	Obviously the big one is we started the reopening of the Bubbling Springs Park.	04:16:57
	With a kickoff celebration with poor Wayne Amy Little League.	04:17:03
	On umm.	04:17:08
	April 12th.	04:17:10
	And so we wanted to just share some photos from that and remind the community that the baseball fields.	04:17:11
	Snack bar and umm uh.	04:17:19
	The exercise path with the exercise equipment. The dog parks.	04:17:22
	Are now.	04:17:28
	Open and then in the next couple of weeks the playground and the.	04:17:29
	Multi use fields will be coming online.	04:17:35
	As well.	04:17:38
	And so with that we want to do.	04:17:38
	Remind people Ned from the library.	04:17:41
	Attended earlier and announced it, but we wanted to give the reminder.	04:17:45
	That the library is planning their reopening with the unveiling of the city's first art project, a community mural, on May 3rd.	04:17:48
	And we're going to be announcing in the next couple of days that we're going to do.	04:17:56
	Sort of.	04:18:00
	Tour with a ribbon cutting.	04:18:02
	Just before that event.	04:18:04
	At some of the new items that are opening up at the park, so.	04:18:07
	We'll post that and invite everybody to join us for either the library, mural or park.	04:18:10
	Reopening on May 3rd.	04:18:17
	So additionally, we just wanted to highlight the same day we were doing the baseball field opening, we also.	04:18:21
	We're still continuing a.	04:18:26
	Tradition that we've had.	04:18:29
	Of the annual spring extravaganza.	04:18:31
	And there are several 100 people who attended and participated in the egg hunt.	04:18:34
	And other events. And so that was a great event at Miranda Park that.	04:18:40
	We expect you to continue on into the future.	04:18:45
	We also have two.	04:18:49
	Upcoming.	04:18:51
	Things to put on on your calendar One is mentioned earlier, the Arbor Day and Earth Day celebration by planting 3 coast Live Oak	04:18:53
	trees in Bulker Park will take place.	04:18:59
	This Wednesday at 11 AM.	04:19:04
	Again, that's at Bulker Park, even though we noted that we're also going to plant some, we're going to plant trees around the	04:19:07
	city.	04:19:10
	We're inviting the public to join us at Bulker Park to celebrate the planting of the three coast Live Oak trees.	04:19:13
	And then before I move on.	04:19:22
	The 2025 Wynnie Me Hero Award, period.	04:19:24
	Nomination period has opened their.	04:19:28
	Nominations are due by May 26th. Here we have the photos of last year's Co winners Kevin, Brandon and George.	04:19:31
	What did I set myself up to say? His last name?	04:19:38
	Maghadam.	04:19:42
	George, George from the pavilion we all know.	04:19:44
	So we have.	04:19:48
	That deadline approaching and one more which is we are doing our short term rental community survey.	04:19:50
	We do have over 160 responses so far, but we're.	04:19:55
	It's still open until May 16th.	04:19:59
	We're trying to keep getting feedback.	04:20:01
	And so anybody who hasn't taken the survey.	04:20:04
	Even if they don't have an impacted you yet, you can take the survey and say that so.	04:20:07
	Whatever feedback you have.	04:20:12
	We're taking it till May 16th and the.	04:20:15
	Link and QR code are there on screen.	04:20:18
	And then lastly, looking ahead to May 5th.	04:20:22
	We have 3 presentations scheduled that meet that meeting, Police officers, Memorial Day and National Police Week.	04:20:25
	The Mental Health Awareness Month Proclamation and the 55th annual Professional Municipal Clerks Week Proclamation.	04:20:31
	Then we have.	04:20:39
	A pretty full agenda with public hearings and business items. We have the.	04:20:42
	Our first We have our annual cannabis development agreement reviews. We have our first review scheduled.	04:20:47
	Umm, for that meeting.	04:20:54
	We also have our first budget workshop review scheduled at that meeting.	04:20:55
	The item that was requested at last council meeting for the.	04:21:01
	It's a little broader. We had written it down as motorized vehicles on the pier, but it's actually a little bit broader than that.	04:21:05
	It's more about just vehicles.	04:21:09
	Well willed items on the pier so.	04:21:13
	We'll bring that item back and explain what the rules are and explain.	04:21:16
	And follow up on that item.	04:21:21
	And then we just have a notice of completion for that major sewer project that we.	04:21:23
	Completed uh.	04:21:28
	That was the big project going through the main line through straight down Ventura Rd. so.	04:21:29
	So those are the items currently scheduled for May 5th.	04:21:34
	And that's everything I have.	04:21:38
	Great. Thank you. We'll move.	04:21:40
	On to request for future agenda items.	04:21:43
	Any requests for items?	04:21:46
	Councilmember Perez do Councilmember reports. Oh, I'm sorry, I.	04:21:48
	Took notes under that and just missed it. Sorry. Councilmember reports and comments.	04:21:54
	If I may yes egg extravaganza. The greatest thing about that is Miranda Park is alive and well in addition to the.	04:22:03
	Hundreds of kids chase it down Eggs.	04:22:11
	Rich Rollins and his pickle Ballers are out there in force and I must say they are very well behaved and they're very patient and	04:22:14
	they wait in line and they.	04:22:18
	Have a lot of.	04:22:24
	Conversation going on, so it's really cool to watch and I appreciate that the pickle Ballers are well behaved. Is that way. Yeah,	04:22:25
	the pickle Ballers are well behaved.	04:22:29
	Just take out.	04:22:34
	Yeah, but again, it's just.	04:22:39
	Seeing a park full of energy and smiles and activity, it's just a great feeling so.	04:22:42
	I really appreciate the fact that we got the coastal oak trees going in the ground or a native tree. They're drought tolerant and	04:22:50
	they're beautiful and yes, they're my favorite.	04:22:55
	And I noticed out front here we planted 2 coastal oak trees and.	04:23:01
	Keep forgetting to mention it to you, but.	04:23:05
	One of them is doing really good.	04:23:07
	The other one's doing kind.	04:23:09
	Kind of good.	04:23:11
	I mean, that's a stretch stuff, so maybe.	04:23:12
	Something. There's something treatable there.	04:23:15
	April 29th.	04:23:17
	Acting back up April 26 at the South Oxnard Library is the premier for.	04:23:19
	Orman past, present and future. It's at 2:00 PM so.	04:23:26
	Hoping y'all could come and check it out, it's pretty good.	04:23:32
	And then April 29th, we're having the Sand Summit. It's a Zoom event, so if anyone's interested in that, please give me a call or	04:23:36
	an e-mail.	04:23:39
	I just want to know that there is a constant flow of sand from the land into the ocean. Watershed runoff and bluff in the	04:23:42
	hillside. Erosion brings sand to the beach.	04:23:47
	Sand grains travel southward down the coast, while finer particles of sediment are carried into positive further out to sea.	04:23:52
	Along the way, Santa's washed ashore temporarily rested on beaches.	04:24:01
	So, umm.	04:24:05
	If you're interested in sand.	04:24:06
	Come to the summit.	04:24:08
	And, umm.	04:24:10
	I really appreciate.	04:24:11
	Where Beacon is going particularly on on this subject matter.	04:24:14
	Since I've been involved in Beacon over the last six years.	04:24:20
	It is.	04:24:24
	Really about education.	04:24:25
	And getting each regional.	04:24:27
	Participant City. County.	04:24:31
	To understand.	04:24:33
	Their sand issues.	04:24:35
	Area because before.	04:24:38
	Many people try to.	04:24:40
	Treat the whole coast of California as one.	04:24:42
	And it's not, it's very complicated. And if you want to learn about the sand, come to the Sand Summit April 29th.	04:24:44
	9:30 AM I believe.	04:24:51
	It's a zoom event.	04:24:54
	That's it.	04:24:57
	Thank you, Mayor.	04:24:59
	So next week I'll be attending the Clean Power Alliance annual Conference Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday, and then Wednesday I head	04:25:01
	off to Palm Desert for the Southern California Association.	04:25:06
	A government's conference, which is.	04:25:12
	On Thursday.	04:25:15
	Up against late Wednesday night and then Thursday and Friday, so I'll report back on that.	04:25:17
	Our next meeting, I was really happy to attend the Bubbling Springs opening. Great job to staff for organizing that and putting it	04:25:23
	together and it was a lot of fun. It was just.	04:25:28
	With the whole Council out there and.	04:25:34
	We missed you, Mayor, but it was it was a fun time, so.	04:25:36
	Thank you staff for putting all that together and I'm so glad to see that park opening everybody so excited about, It's just	04:25:40
	great.	04:25:43
	I also attended the Grocery Outlet anniversary.	04:25:47
	Celebration.	04:25:52
	With Fidelity Cabo and lots of people attended it was it was a.	04:25:53
	Good time to.	04:25:58
	Offer our congratulations and I want to extend my thanks for his service to our community for the past year.	04:25:59
	I also attended Public Safety Night where Boss Atar Tapia was recognized as our local Police Officer of the Year and just want to	04:26:06
	extend my congratulations for to Sergeant Tapia.	04:26:12
	For his accomplishments.	04:26:19
	I understand it's admin assistance day on Wednesday, so thank you to all the admin assistants. Georgiana, I don't know if you're	04:26:21
	considered an admin assistant, but to all our administrative staff, just want to say thank you for all your hard work.	04:26:28
	And supporting our city's leadership. We really appreciate it here.	04:26:35
	And, umm.	04:26:40
	I just wanted to also ask if we could close the meeting in honor of one of our residents who passed away, Jackie Lou Cates.	04:26:43
	Some of you may have remembered she was here as a member of the public talking about some issues she was having on her street with	04:26:51
	people parking.	04:26:55
	Cars and trucks on their front lawn. Unfortunately, she had a heart attack.	04:27:00
	A couple of weeks ago while I was away.	04:27:05
	And passed away. But she was an awesome woman and she helped lead the food share effort every Friday.	04:27:07
	At the Wine Amy Church on 5th St.	04:27:16
	Umm, she was. She helped coordinate all the volunteers there. So she'll be deeply missed. And that's Jackie Luke Cates.	04:27:19
	And that's all I have. Thank you.	04:27:28
	Great. Thank you.	04:27:30
	Wow, you took a lot of my.	04:27:32
	All my stuff I had but I will say umm.	04:27:34
	14 April.	04:27:37
	2025 the Oxnard.	04:27:40
	Council of Banks of Columbus.	04:27:41
	750 held its annual Public Safety Night.	04:27:44
	Public Safety Night awards and I did want to congratulate.	04:27:48
	Our very own pH D Sergeant Paul Cesar Tapia for being selected Supervisor of the Year.	04:27:52
	But what's?	04:27:57
	Cool about this is he was selected by his peers and colleagues.	04:27:58
	For his leadership and professionalism. So that says a lot about.	04:28:02
	Sergeant Sergeant Tapia.	04:28:06
	Keep and thank him, thanking him for keeping our city and Ventura County safe. I know he's.	04:28:11
	He's a.	04:28:17
	Part of the retail theft.	04:28:18
	So congratulations to him.	04:28:20
	And city staff, Madam Mayor, you were missed.	04:28:23
	It was a great.	04:28:26
	Great showing, so great job coordinating with.	04:28:28
	Poor Wayne, me Little League.	04:28:31
	It was just a fun, energetic.	04:28:33
	Uh, Saturday.	04:28:35
	Wish you were there.	04:28:37
	I did attend the Ventura County Tax Foundation.	04:28:40
	Forecast for 2025.	04:28:44
	A lot of doom and gloom with tariffs in the air.	04:28:47
	Um, so it's, it's very.	04:28:52
	They were very cautious with.	04:28:55
	Uncertainty with what's going on.	04:28:59
	Nationwide.	04:29:04
	And the only other thing I have is May 9th, the Captain Rosemary Bryant Mariner outpatient clinic.	04:29:06
	On Ralston.	04:29:12
	It's the VA outpatient clinic.	04:29:13
	They're going to be having an open house. They're going to have veteran benefits information. The VABVT Center reps will be	04:29:15
	available for anyone who.	04:29:19
	Would uh. Uh.	04:29:23
	Like to attend and have questions?	04:29:25
	Thank you.	04:29:27
	Great. Thank you.	04:29:29
	I too participated in the Knights of Columbus, Oxnard, I mean Public Safety Night, and got an opportunity to congratulate Sergeant	04:29:31
	Tapia was really nice.	04:29:37
	To be there, we were surprised to be there, but it was nice to that we had a.	04:29:42
	A few of us there to support him that night, so we did that.	04:29:47
	Umm, Mayor Pro Tem and I found ourselves together at the VC Public Works.	04:29:52
	Wine Mimi Rd. Whitening event.	04:29:57
	So that was pretty interesting. I originally thought it was going to be.	04:30:00
	Some work in actual Port Wineemi but.	04:30:04
	Passed on the other side of I think Savers Rd. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We have reached out to the county when they had announced that we	04:30:08
	reached out about doing a similar one here in Winimi and we are working on that. They said they had agreed and we had sent some	04:30:14
	dates back and forth so.	04:30:19
	There should be 1.	04:30:25
	Here, and we'll announce that when we get it. Oh, great, great. Thank you.	04:30:26
	I also participated in the Community stakeholder engagement meeting.	04:30:30
	The Navy test information session.	04:30:36
	That was put on by Navy Surface Warfare Center regarding the testing.	04:30:39
	That's going to be going on from now through the end of the summer with their unmanned vehicles.	04:30:46
	And so got an opportunity to do that if you.	04:30:52
	Get an opportunity to go out and.	04:30:56
	Whatever can be shown, if you have an opportunity to see that, do that. We actually met.	04:31:00
	At the.	04:31:06
	The docs there behind real guppy.	04:31:08
	And they had about 40.	04:31:11
	Unmanned.	04:31:13
	Units out there.	04:31:15
	And they had about.	04:31:16
	50 to 60 people out there that were going to be.	04:31:18
	Using.	04:31:23
	Like operated, battery operated or however they do it to kind of computers to kind of drive them around outside out through the.	04:31:26
	Out through that area, out to the ocean so that that's what they're going to be doing. So anyway, if you get an opportunity to do	04:31:38
	that and see that it's it's amazing. And by the way.	04:31:42
	Port Hueneme is.	04:31:46
	Really the center of excellence for unmanned vehicles. So that's really a.	04:31:48
	Good thing that we have around here in our area.	04:31:54
	I got a chance to attend the extravaganza, which was.	04:31:59
	Very, very nice. So I was happy to be back in at an event.	04:32:02
	So that was nice. And then.	04:32:06
	I got a letter in the mail a couple of weeks ago.	04:32:09
	That told me that I better have.	04:32:13
	An inspector come and look at my Eevee charger.	04:32:15
	Or my permit was going to cancel and that was done back in 2023. I had hired a company to do that and so I was surprised to see	04:32:21
	that they had not done the closeout of the final.	04:32:26
	So I yeah, so they came on the date, the last day that I had to have it done before it was going to be cancelled. So anyway.	04:32:33
	So got that done. The guy came over really nice.	04:32:39
	I guess it was contractor or building. Yeah, building contractor.	04:32:42
	And so, yeah, it was really nice and it took just a few minutes and gave me the documents that I needed for that.	04:32:46
	Umm, but I'm back.	04:32:52
	My weekend time is my time again, so I'm looking forward to being able to participate.	04:32:55
	And some of the upcoming city events.	04:33:00
	OK. So we'll move on to the next item request for future agenda items.	04:33:05
	Do you have anything? Anything.	04:33:10
	No. Anything OK, I don't have anything great.	04:33:12
	And so if.	04:33:15
	Nothing else.	04:33:18
	We're going to adjourn this meeting in the memory of Jackie Luke Cates.	04:33:19
	And our next meeting will be Monday, May 5th, 6:30.	04:33:25
	The meeting is now adjourned.	04:33:29

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	Welcome to the closed session portion of the City Council meeting. I am calling this meeting to order. The time is now 5:45 PM.	00:00:00
	Madam Clerk, can we get a roll call?	00:00:09
	Councilmember Goma here, Councilmember Hernandez here, Councilmember Perez here, Mayor Pro Tem Lopez here, and Mayor McQueen	00:00:11
	Lashawn here.	00:00:15
	Thank you. Will now hear public comments. Public comments are limited to 3 minutes. Madam Clerk, do we have any public comments?	00:00:19
	No public comments for closed session.	00:00:25
	Thank you, Madam City Attorney, please read the closed session item into the record.	00:00:28
	Thank you, Madam Mayor.	00:00:33
	We have one matter going into closed session. It is under anticipated litigation.	00:00:34
	Pursuant to Government Code section 54956.9.	00:00:39
	D4.	00:00:44
	The number of potential cases is 1.	00:00:45
	And based on existing facts and circumstances, the legislative body of the local agency has decided to initiate.	00:00:48
	Or is deciding whether to initiate litigation.	00:00:55
	At the conclusion of the closed session.	00:00:59
	And the commencement of the General session.	00:01:01
	To the extent there's any reportable action, I will report out.	00:01:04
	Thank you.	00:01:07
	Are there any?	00:01:09
	Conflicts of interest by our Council members.	00:01:10
	Yes.	00:01:14
	I I live approximately 984 feet from said property and how to.	00:01:15
	Extreme.	00:01:21
	Caution. I think it's best that I recuse myself from this.	00:01:23
	Great. Thank you.	00:01:27
	If not now, we'll go ahead and recess to closed session. The time is now 546.	00:01:31
	Welcome to the City Council regular meeting. I'm calling this meeting to order the time. It's now 630.	00:45:08
	Please stand and join us and Mayor Pro Tem for the flag salute.	00:45:14
	OK, hand over your heart.	00:45:20
	It's flagged.	00:45:23
	Ready go.	00:45:25
	I pledge allegiance to the flag.	00:45:27
	Of the United States of America.	00:45:29
	And to the Republic for which it stands.	00:45:31
	One nation under God.	00:45:34
	Indivisible with liberty and justice for all.	00:45:36
	Thank you, Mayor Pro Tem.	00:45:43
	All right, Madam Clerk, please take role.	00:45:46
	Councilmember Gama.	00:45:49
	Here, Councilmember Hernandez. Here Councilmember Perez. Here Mayor Pro Tem Lopez.	00:45:51
	Here and Mayor McQueen Lejeune.	00:45:57
	Here, and tonight, I have the awesome responsibility to present.	00:45:59
	Um, the inspiration.	00:46:06
	And so I'll do that now.	00:46:09
	So we all we just came back from.	00:46:13
	Holy Week.	00:46:17
	Good Friday.	00:46:18
	And so whether you observed?	00:46:19
	Or commemorated Good Friday.	00:46:22
	Also known again as Holy Week.	00:46:24
	A Holy Friday. Great Friday.	00:46:26
	Friday of passion of the Lord.	00:46:29
	Are there any other?	00:46:32
	Names that you give Good Friday.	00:46:33
	Anyone.	00:46:36
	Any other titles you put on Good Friday?	00:46:38
	Some of the others include Crucifix, Crucifixion Day.	00:46:41
	Solemn fast day.	00:46:45
	Friday of Ember week.	00:46:47
	Or Friday before Easter.	00:46:49
	Or Friday.	00:46:51
	In Holy Week.	00:46:53
	So whatever you call it.	00:46:54
	If you observe it or not.	00:46:56
	It's a solemn Christian holy day commemorating the crucifixion of Jesus and his death at Calvary.	00:46:58
	Ultimately.	00:47:05
	It's a day of reflection.	00:47:06
	And remembrance.	00:47:08
	For many in our community.	00:47:10
	It marks a time when we pause.	00:47:12
	To honor the sacrifice.	00:47:14
	Compassion.	00:47:17
	And hope.	00:47:18
	At the heart of our Easter story.	00:47:19
	So as we move forward from Good Friday.	00:47:23
	We should all look forward to the promise.	00:47:26
	A renewal and new beginning.	00:47:28
	Whether you observe Easter.	00:47:31
	Are preparing for spring.	00:47:33
	Or simply spending time with loved ones.	00:47:35
	I encourage all of us.	00:47:38
	As we move forward.	00:47:40
	To carry with us the values of kindness.	00:47:41
	Resilience.	00:47:45
	And Unity.	00:47:47
	Let this season be a reminder.	00:47:48
	That even.	00:47:51
	After the darkest moments.	00:47:53
	Light returns.	00:47:55
	With this.	00:47:57
	Strength.	00:48:00
	And hope.	00:48:01
	To each of you.	00:48:02
	And your.	00:48:03
	Whether near or far.	00:48:05
	Thank you.	00:48:06
	All right, so now we're going to have our city attorney to give.	00:48:12
	A closed session report.	00:48:17
	Thank you, Madam Mayor.	00:48:18
	On a vote of four to zero, with Councilmember Gama having recused himself.	00:48:19
	The City Council did provide direction to initiate.	00:48:25
	In action and that the action the defendants and the other particulars shall.	00:48:29
	Once formally commenced, be disclosed to any person upon inquiry.	00:48:34
	Unless to do so would jeopardize service of process on the adverse parties.	00:48:39
	Or the ability to conclude existing settlement negotiations.	00:48:43
	To the agency's advantage.	00:48:48
	Thank you, City Manager, I mean city attorney. I will now move to public comments.	00:48:51
	These are the public comments not pertaining to the agenda items.	00:48:56
	Public comments will be limited to 3 minutes.	00:49:00
	Madam Clerk, do we have any public comment? Yes, we do, Mayor.	00:49:03
	1st is Javier Garnica.	00:49:07
	Hello, City Council members, members of the public. My name is Javier Garnica.	00:49:16
	I am the youth organizer, youth organizer with Future Leaders of America. I'm just here to extend.	00:49:22
	An invitation to all of you. To all.	00:49:29
	The public We will be Fla, with the collaboration of the Ventura County Public Health Department and Ventura County Behavioral	00:49:31
	Health.	00:49:35
	And some other local organizations we will be.	00:49:40
	Hosting a tobacco forum. This.	00:49:44
	Next Wednesday, April 30th.	00:49:47
	It's going to be from our resource table is from four, starts at 4:30 and the program starts at 5:30.	00:49:50
	So.	00:49:57
	We'll be having presentations on the matter.	00:49:58
	Local experts.	00:50:03
	Are going to be giving updates responsible?	00:50:05
	Responsible tobacco and cannabis policy efforts across Ventura County.	00:50:09
	So we just want to extend the invitation to everyone.	00:50:12
	Our youth along with bright youth as well are going to be presenting and and giving updates on their.	00:50:15
	Policy efforts.	00:50:23
	Not just here in.	00:50:24
	Enemy and Oxnard, but also in Carpinteria.	00:50:26
	Again, it's it's happening.	00:50:29
	Upcoming April 30th, Wednesday.	00:50:32
	From 4:30 to 7:30.	00:50:36
	I left some Flyers for everyone.	00:50:39
	If you would like to RSVP and join us.	00:50:41
	You can do so.	00:50:44
	Using the QR code.	00:50:46
	As well, the sign up link will be on our link tree on our Instagram.	00:50:48
	Llama under score pH.	00:50:56
	And yeah, or for more info you can also reach out to.	00:50:58
	Smoke free.	00:51:05
	Smoke free vcaventuracounty.org which is the e-mail.	00:51:06
	Of umm, uh.	00:51:10
	BC Ash, which is a Ventura County coalition that focuses on tobacco prevention.	00:51:12
	But yeah, that's pretty much it. Thanks so much.	00:51:17
	Thank you.	00:51:20
	Becky Bruning.	00:51:22
	Good evening, Mayor, Mayor Pro Tem, council staff.	00:51:33
	An audience. I'm here tonight representing Rock up the Outdoors.	00:51:36
	We are having our family fish day.	00:51:41
	This Sunday, out at the end of the pier from 8:00 to 11:30.	00:51:44
	We furnish everything and it's free.	00:51:48
	So you have no excuse for not being there.	00:51:51
	We also are having our annual fundraiser dinner.	00:51:54
	On June 1st.	00:51:58
	And if you're interested, I do have tickets.	00:52:00
	Ned.	00:52:06
	Good evening, Mayor, good evening City Council members and.	00:52:12
	City Manager.	00:52:16
	I have a couple of announcements. My name is Ned Branch. I'm the deputy director for the Ventura County Library.	00:52:17
	And there are two important things that have happened since the last we addressed you. One is we have.	00:52:23
	Finally appointed someone to fill the position that Tim Fergal vacated at late last year.	00:52:28
	The lady's name is Anne Hoja and will be the East Region City Librarian, including the.	00:52:34
	The Pruder library here in Port Hueneme.	00:52:41
	And for about over a year or so has been the director at our Oak Park library.	00:52:45
	Prior to that, she was the library director at the Climber Library in Pocono Pines, PA.	00:52:51
	The library director at the South County Library in Bellport, NY.	00:52:57
	Library director at the Pittston Area Memorial Library in Pittston, PA.	00:53:02
	And the Youth Services librarian at both the Marianne Sutherland Kirby Library in Mountaintop, Pennsylvania.	00:53:07
	And to bathe you.	00:53:14
	Free Library in Bayville, NY.	00:53:16
	And has also worked as a school media librarian.	00:53:18
	She comes to us holding a master's degree in library science from Clarion University of Pennsylvania and a bachelor's degree in	00:53:23
	education from Long Island University.	00:53:27
	So as you can see, she has a lot of experience, the wealth of experience she has.	00:53:32
	She would have been here tonight to join me and I would have had the opportunity to introduce her to you.	00:53:37
	But she's rather busy right now.	00:53:42
	Because as to my second point.	00:53:44
	As you probably know, on May the 3rd we'll be having the grand reopening of the Radi Pruder Library here in Port Hueneme.	00:53:46
	So we're a bit less than two weeks away. So she's she's a busy lady right now. So we'll have the opportunity after the reopening	00:53:53
	to bring her here to meet you. But those of you who.	00:53:59
	Can come on May the 3rd and I'm one of the reasons I'm here is to personally invite you.	00:54:04
	To the reopening, which will be from 11:00.	00:54:09
	To one on Saturday May the 3rd.	00:54:12
	I believe our mayor will be addressing the the the crowd and at the same time there will also be the official unveiling of the new	00:54:15
	mural.	00:54:19
	That adorns the W wall of the library.	00:54:24
	Was, I think, completed in late November, very early December.	00:54:28
	But it's getting its coming out party.	00:54:33
	May the 3rd.	00:54:35
	Also, thanks to the city staff for doing a great job on resurfacing the library parking lot.	00:54:36
	And they're in the midst of landscaping it as well. Not as we speak. I think they knocked off for the evening, but they're,	00:54:42
	they're, they're busily doing that. So again, we hope to see you all there on May the 3rd from 11 to 1. Mr. Softy will be there.	00:54:50
	So don't pass up that opportunity. So.	00:54:58
	Thank you.	00:55:01
	Thank you so much.	00:55:02
	Mayor, that concludes public comment.	00:55:04
	Great. Thank you so much. I just wanted to say to Mr. Branch before he leaves, I got an opportunity to meet.	00:55:06
	I'm gonna say I don't can't pronounce her last name, but Miss Ann at the extravaganza.	00:55:11
	It was really nice meeting her, so we're excited that she's here with us. Thank you.	00:55:16
	Thank you so much.	00:55:20
	OK. So we're going to move on to the agenda approval.	00:55:22
	May I have a motion and a second to approve the agenda?	00:55:27
	Move to approve second.	00:55:31
	Right, Madam Clerk, all in favor.	00:55:33
	Aye, all opposed.	00:55:36
	Hearing none, motion passes unanimously.	00:55:37
	Thank you. Do we have any members of the Council with conflicts of interest?	00:55:40
	To disclose regarding any agenda item.	00:55:45
	OK. Then we'll move on to presentations.	00:55:51
	I'd like to welcome Chief Federico.	00:55:54
	To introduce the first presentation.	00:55:57
	Good evening everyone. This will be a presentation for our 2025 Dispatcher of the Year.	00:56:06
	Next to me.	00:56:14
	It is with great pride and sincere appreciation that I stand before you today to recognize a truly exceptional member of the Port	00:56:21
	Roy Neme Police Department.	00:56:25
	Lynette Adams, who has been named this year's Dispatcher of the Year.	00:56:30
	Yeah, she has a big fat club.	00:56:35
	Lynette joined our department in 2000 and over the past 25 years she has exemplified what it means.	00:56:40
	To serve with.	00:56:46
	Professionalism, Reliability.	00:56:47
	And compassion.	00:56:49
	Prior to her time with us, Lynette spent two years with the Ochsner Police Department.	00:56:52
	Bringing her total law enforcement service to an impressive 27 years of service.	00:56:56
	And like many of us, she started as like, a teenager over there, so, you know.	00:57:02
	The years mean nothing.	00:57:06
	27 years of service.	00:57:08
	In that time, Lynette has become a cornerstone of our communications team. She is calm.	00:57:10
	She's a steady voice behind the scenes.	00:57:15
	During some of the most critical moments.	00:57:17
	Whether it's guiding the public through an emergency or supporting our officers in the field with clarity and precision.	00:57:20
	Her ability.	00:57:26
	To remain composed under pressure combined with her procedural knowledge.	00:57:29
	Has earned her the utmost respect of her peers and the gratitude of our entire department.	00:57:34
	Beyond her exceptional skillset, Lynette has taken on the role of mentor and leader as a former senior records technician.	00:57:40
	In the department and a dispatch certified training officer.	00:57:47
	She's invested in the growth and success of the new dispatchers.	00:57:51
	She's a.	00:57:54
	Tenured trainer in dispatch and has trained a lot of folks.	00:57:56
	Including new officers when they come on.	00:58:00
	Or maybe even the chief when he came back and sit there and learn some of the stuff about the new CAD system.	00:58:02
	However, Lynette.	00:58:11
	Is more than her professional accomplishments.	00:58:12
	She is a proud mother to her son, Brandon.	00:58:17
	Who currently serves in the United States Marine Corps?	00:58:20
	He's also a former police explorer.	00:58:23
	With us here. So I'd like to think maybe the police explorers.	00:58:26
	And mom really helped.	00:58:29
	Get this kid squared away.	00:58:31
	And we're very proud to have him.	00:58:33
	Deployed as a as a United States Marine.	00:58:37
	She also eagerly awaits the arrival.	00:58:41
	Of her first granddaughter.	00:58:44
	We're also very proud of Brandon for doing that such a young age this July.	00:58:48
	Her commitment to both her career and her family is truly inspiring.	00:58:53
	But I do have to say.	00:58:57
	The flowers are over here.	00:59:01
	Brandon reached out to make sure you had the flowers come and those are from him.	00:59:03
	For her unwavering dedication, her excellence and service, and the vital role she plays in the safety and success of our	00:59:14
	department and our community.	00:59:17
	It is our distinct honor. Recognized Lynette Adams as a 2025 Dispatcher of the Year.	00:59:22
	Yeah.	00:59:27
	Please.	00:59:34
	Go ahead.	00:59:35
	Any council members? Do you have anything you'd like to share? Yes.	00:59:37
	So our dispatchers do not get enough recognition, appreciation, support. We know that your job is 100% necessary for our officers	00:59:41
	to be safe and to be able to do their job appropriately.	00:59:47
	Everyone works together as a team and.	00:59:53
	You don't get enough.	00:59:55
	Recognition and I think we need to start.	00:59:57
	Taking more time to appreciate the job of a dispatcher, which is very difficult. You're the first line.	00:59:59
	That comes in.	01:00:05
	Any call stressful call, suicide call, you know, and you do a great job of handling the community and you make sure that our	01:00:07
	officers are safe because they need you to be able to dispatch.	01:00:12
	You know that information to them, so I appreciate you. I know that you have kept my husband safe, so I appreciate that.	01:00:17
	From a personal note.	01:00:23
	All the times that I've heard all the stories of what happened, the PD I've had, I've had the pleasure of sitting in.	01:00:25
	The PD.	01:00:30
	In the dispatch and watching the amazing you guys answer the public phone in addition to the 911 calls.	01:00:31
	Grand Central Station with one with a one man army.	01:00:39
	So we appreciate you.	01:00:43
	Lynette, I just want to thank you for your 30 years of public safety service. That's incredible. You don't look a day over 21.	01:00:49
	Want to congratulate you on your family.	01:00:58
	Appreciate your husband, make sure you thank him for his service.	01:01:01
	Your son.	01:01:06
	We appreciate your husband too.	01:01:07
	For having a son.	01:01:09
	But and your granddaughter, but most importantly.	01:01:11
	In the 30 years or 27 years that you've been here in our city, I'm sure you've dealt with me a couple times. And you know, there's	01:01:16
	been a couple like crazy things that I called in. And yes, the dispatchers are always so helpful and calming down. I need to get	01:01:22
	information and I really appreciate the fact that you're there.	01:01:28
	And you made our community better. Thank you.	01:01:35
	Miss Adams, thank you so much for your service of 25 years. I'm.	01:01:39
	Don't know that we've ever met over all this time but.	01:01:43
	I'm glad you're here and.	01:01:46
	We hope that you stay with us another 25 years. Thank you so much.	01:01:47
	Incorrect. Congratulations, you know.	01:01:52
	Just the police chief stated that you're the calm.	01:01:54
	Behind that.	01:01:57
	That stressful call.	01:01:58
	You're training your fellow subordinates, which is.	01:02:02
	Awesome. Umm.	01:02:08
	Congratulations. Thank you for your service.	01:02:09
	Yeah, I'll just say Ditto.	01:02:12
	And I'm looking behind you at your family, and there's someone in the black sweater with the pink.	01:02:14
	Your sister and I think she's as happy as you are today.	01:02:20
	Yes, yes, we see that, we see that. And so thank you and and thank you for being a service member, Mom.	01:02:25
	That's a that's a huge role as well.	01:02:33
	And so you're here at work, and then you have your son, right?	01:02:36
	And so we just thank you for all the service that you're providing to us and that you're providing to your son while he's	01:02:40
	providing to us.	01:02:43
	So we appreciate that. Thank you so much.	01:02:47
	I think we're going to take a picture.	01:02:48
	We can take 1 and you can invite your family as well.	01:02:54
	Family, we're going to take one and then if you all want to come up, you can come up.	01:02:58
	123.	01:03:05
	Everyone, come on.	01:03:16
	There we go. OK.	01:03:42
	And I'm sure the chief will get them.	01:03:52
	OK. And we have.	01:04:02
	Two proclamations that we're going to read on the day, as the first one is the Earth Day and the second one is Arbor Day. And	01:04:06
	while we're reading, we're going to ask that Mister.	01:04:11
	Gable comes up. Cable comes up. He's the deputy public works director.	01:04:17
	City Engineer.	01:04:21
	So we're going to read the proclamations and then we're going to turn it over to you.	01:04:22
	Thank you.	01:04:27
	Earth Day is April 22nd, 2025. Today is April 21st, 2025.	01:04:29
	And if you didn't know, every Saturday is Earth Day at Winami Beach Cleanup. And so if you ever want to participate.	01:04:36
	We got the buckets, we got the sticks. We've got a hand washing station come down at 8:30. We quit at 10.	01:04:42
	OK, here we go. Proclamation Earth Day, April 22nd.	01:04:48
	2025.	01:04:52
	Whereas the first Earth Day was enacted in 1970 and engaged over 20 million Americans to advocate for a cleaner environment and.	01:04:54
	Whereas Earth Day is an annual reminder.	01:05:03
	Of the constant need for environmental stewardship and sustainability efforts, and whereas it is understood that same	01:05:06
	sustainability will only be achieved by meeting the needs of the present.	01:05:11
	Without compromising the needs of future generations and.	01:05:17
	Whereas humankind is currently facing tremendous global challenges.	01:05:21
	Among them.	01:05:26
	The need to manage an increased amount of water and whereas people of this earth from all walks of life desire.	01:05:27
	To a healthy environment and pollution has been associated with several health issues affecting the general population.	01:05:35
	And whereas the city supports projects that demonstrate and encourages energy and water conservation, recycling of solid waste.	01:05:41
	Sustainability and the usage of renewable energy.	01:05:49
	End, whereas it is essential to involve.	01:05:53
	The community in the design and implementation of solutions for pressing environmental issues and reducing pollution.	01:05:57
	Now therefore be it proclaimed that the City Council of the City of Port 1 Amy does hereby have the distinct honor of proclaiming	01:06:04
	April 22nd, 2025.	01:06:10
	As Earth Day.	01:06:16
	Throughout the city of Port Hueneme.	01:06:17
	And encourages all citizens, businesses and institutions to celebrate the earth and promote the protection of our environment.	01:06:19
	Charles.	01:06:28
	Yeah, go ahead. Oh, we got one more.	01:06:32
	Good evening. I have the pleasure of reading the proclamation for Arbor Day, which is the fourth Wednesday in April.	01:06:36
	WHEREAS, in 1872, J Sterling Morton proposed to the Nebraska Board of Agriculture that a special day be set aside for the planting	01:06:41
	of trees. And whereas the holiday called Arbor Day was first observed with the planning of more than a million trees in Nebraska.	01:06:49
	And whereas Arbor Day is now observed throughout the nation and the world.	01:06:56
	And whereas trees can reduce wind and water erosion of our precious topsoil, lower our heating and cooling costs, moderate the	01:07:00
	temperature, clean the air, produce oxygen and provide.	01:07:06
	Habitat for wildlife.	01:07:12
	And whereas trees are a renewable resource, giving us paper, wood for homes, fuel for our fires and countless other wood products.	01:07:14
	And whereas trees in our city increase property values, enhance the economic vitality of business areas, and beautify our	01:07:21
	community. And whereas trees, wherever they are planted, are a source of joy and spiritual renewal.	01:07:29
	Now therefore be it proclaimed that the City Council of the City of Port Hueneme does hereby proclaim the 4th.	01:07:36
	Wednesday in April and Arbor Day in the city of Port Hueneme. Furthermore, all citizens are urged to celebrate Arbor Day, support	01:07:42
	efforts to protect our trees and Woodlands, and to plant and care for trees to gladden the heart and promote the well-being of	01:07:49
	this and future generations. Proclaim this 21st day of April, 2025.	01:07:56
	Arbor Day.	01:08:03
	Thank you.	01:08:06
	Good evening everyone. We will be celebrating both Arbor Day and Earth Day, and we invite the general public to join us.	01:08:07
	At Bulker Park, we're going to plant 3 coastal live oaks.	01:08:14
	At 11 AM this Wednesday, April 23rd.	01:08:19
	And we encourage the public to join us then.	01:08:22
	In addition to our regular tree replacement throughout the city, we're going to plant 2 coastal live oaks at Miranda Park.	01:08:25
	This is a requirement of the Tree City USA so we can keep our membership there.	01:08:32
	And, umm.	01:08:36
	Again, we invite the public and we thank the City Council for the support.	01:08:38
	For these events.	01:08:42
	Thank you.	01:08:43
	Not we get a motion and a second.	01:09:02
	I move that we approve the consent agenda.	01:09:05
	2nd.	01:09:07
	Great. Madam Clerk, please take a vote.	01:09:09
	All in favor, aye?	01:09:11
	All opposed.	01:09:14
	Hearing none, motion passes unanimously.	01:09:15
	Great. Thank you.	01:09:18
	Will now move on to #7 public hearing approval of the Coastal Development permit for the Winnemi Beach Park Dune restoration	01:09:19
	project and determining the project is exempt.	01:09:24
	From Sequa.	01:09:30
	Madam Clerk, do you have proof of publication as required by law and a complete file of reports and exhibits? Yes, Madam Mayor.	01:09:31
	Great. Thank you. Will staff please present the report.	01:09:39
	Yes, good evening, Mayor.	01:09:45
	Members of council.	01:09:47
	Staff and audience.	01:09:48
	Tony Stewart, the community and economic development director.	01:09:50
	And as soon as we get the presentation loaded up here.	01:09:53
	Should be a very short 1.	01:09:58
	This is pretty much just procedural.	01:10:00
	Back in December of last year.	01:10:03
	You actually approved a proposal by Ventura Surfrider Foundation for a dune restoration and maintenance project.	01:10:06
	At the eastern portion of Winemi Beach Park.	01:10:12
	As a reminder, this area in red is the area where the project would take place.	01:10:17
	And it will basically include removal of non-native vegetation within that area where we have the ice plant and whatnot.	01:10:23
	As well as to create a wider dune area to enhance native habitat and increase the resilience as sea levels rise for the community.	01:10:31
	And so like I said, short presentation here, the project is exempt from SQL California Environmental Quality Act for Section	01:10:42
	15307, which establishes rules and procedures for to permit the restoration of the natural environment.	01:10:49
	And there will be no direct cost required. As we discussed, there will be some ask for parking for the volunteers as well as the	01:10:56
	waste bins during the the cleanup events.	01:11:01
	However, those would be the only costs associated with this for the city. The Surf Rider Foundation will rely on volunteers and	01:11:06
	funding for the rest of the project.	01:11:10
	And so with that, just a reminder, the resolution for this project does contain several conditions of approval. These include	01:11:15
	protecting the natural environment during the the restoration activities.	01:11:21
	As well as to ensure continued public access to the Wine Amy Beach Park.	01:11:27
	To not block ongoing maintenance activities that are public works and other.	01:11:32
	Entities perform.	01:11:37
	As well as to not block or prevent any future development of Hueneme Beach park up amenities as shown in our Master Plan for Parks	01:11:39
	and Recreation.	01:11:44
	And so with that, staff's recommendation is to open the public hearing and take testimonial and documentary evidence to close the	01:11:50
	hearing and consider that evidence.	01:11:55
	To adopt the resolution.	01:12:00
	CDP uh.	01:12:02
	The coastal development permit for the restoration project and to take additional required or related action as made to be	01:12:04
	desirable.	01:12:08
	That concludes my presentation and here to answer any questions. We also have Joan Tharp here with the Surfrider if you have	01:12:12
	questions of her.	01:12:15
	Thank you.	01:12:20
	Thank you, Council. Do you have any questions? We'll only take questions at this time. We'll have discussion later.	01:12:20
	Councilmember Hernandez.	01:12:27
	Thank you, Mayor. Thank you, Mr. Stewart and Miss Tharp for this working on this project.	01:12:29
	My question has to do with.	01:12:35
	Determining whether this dune restoration plan is going to have how you will measure its desired effect.	01:12:38
	Will you be monitoring?	01:12:44
	The beaches to in order to tell whether or not it's actually doing what it's supposed to do in terms of protecting.	01:12:47
	The sand on our beach.	01:12:54
	And, umm.	01:12:56
	Well, at this point, why don't I go ahead and call up Miss Tharp and she should be able to answer that question for you.	01:12:58
	Yes. So as part of the plan we had.	01:13:07
	Coastal restoration consultants do up the initial plan.	01:13:11
	And we will have them come out and monitor yearly so they'll do their measurements to look at.	01:13:16
	Any elevation changes and the success of.	01:13:23
	Of the receding of the non-native or of the native species.	01:13:26
	OK, great.	01:13:31
	There's going to be great success. Have you considered other areas of our beach that might be eligible for this kind of project?	01:13:32
	Yeah, actually the entire.	01:13:39
	Promenade, I actually spoke to somebody who works in public works.	01:13:41
	And it's my understanding that there is an issue with sand blowing which is a maintenance issue, so.	01:13:46
	Continuing the dunes farther down would be.	01:13:52
	Doable and great and.	01:13:55
	Surfrider would be would love to be involved in that if if necessary or if wanted.	01:13:57
	Great. Well, thank you again to you and Surfrider and the coastal restoration consultants for.	01:14:03
	Good work and thank you Mr.	01:14:08
	Are there any other questions down here, Mayor Pro Tem?	01:14:11
	So I know the last time you presented.	01:14:14
	You spoke of signage.	01:14:18
	Are is the city gonna see?	01:14:20
	Signage looks like prior to.	01:14:23
	Yes, we, I think we're in the process of doing a mock up and we'll have city approve it. We'd like to have the city logo on there.	01:14:25
	Umm and yeah, so you'll definitely get an opportunity to take a look at that.	01:14:34
	Thank you.	01:14:41
	Great.	01:14:43
	If there are no other questions, we're going to open open the public hearing for public comments.	01:14:46
	Madam Clerk, are there any public comments? No public comments. Great. Then we'll go ahead and close the public hearing.	01:14:50
	And so we'll move what we have in front of us is.	01:14:57
	The adoption of the resolution of the City Council.	01:15:02
	City of Port Hueneme, CA granting approval for the coastal development permit.	01:15:05
	For the Wine Amy Beach Park Dune Restoration project located at 550 E Surfside Drive.	01:15:09
	And determining the project is exempt from SEQUA and take additional related action that may be desirable.	01:15:16
	Is there a motion and a second?	01:15:22
	Move to approve.	01:15:25
	2nd.	01:15:26
	Great. Is there any discussion?	01:15:29
	No discussion. Madam Clerk, please take a vote.	01:15:33
	Councilmember Gama.	01:15:36
	Yes, Councilmember Hernandez. Yes, Councilmember Perez. Yes, Mayor Pro Tem Lopez and Mayor McQueen Lejean. Motion passes	01:15:38
	unanimously.	01:15:43
	Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Stewart.	01:15:49
	We're going to move on to our business items, business item number 8.	01:15:51
	Port Convoy questions and responses.	01:15:56
	Staff will present the report.	01:16:01
	Thank you, Madam Mayor.	01:16:03
	Mayor Pro Tem council members.	01:16:05
	Staff and audience in attendance.	01:16:08
	It is recommended that the City Council consider the attached exhibit, which is going to be displayed on the.	01:16:11
	On the boards.	01:16:18
	And this contains responses from the port.	01:16:21
	To questions that the City Council had to the port.	01:16:24
	Regarding convoys, trucks and to provide such direction as appropriate.	01:16:27
	You will recall that on December 16, 2024.	01:16:32
	I provided a synopsis of the series of agreements.	01:16:36
	Between the city and the port entered into over a period of 36 years.	01:16:39
	These multiple agreements are for the stated purpose of providing the city a mechanism.	01:16:43
	To offset the cost of improvements and maintenance to city infrastructure.	01:16:48
	As a result of port activities.	01:16:53
	Essentially, the port provides certain payments to the city to help offset the cost of Rd. maintenance and police services.	01:16:56
	And to provide funding for certain public works projects and improvements that jointly serve.	01:17:04
	The city and the port's operations.	01:17:10
	Following the meeting on December 16, the council asked certain questions of the port.	01:17:13
	Regarding these agreements.	01:17:18
	On April.	01:17:20
	We received some responses from the port to those questions.	01:17:23
	And then again on April 14, there was a clarification to the original April 7, 2025 response.	01:17:28
	And then again, I believe it was April 19th.	01:17:35
	We received a subsequent response.	01:17:38
	The questions and responses are on each slide of the exhibit.	01:17:42
	And I'm gonna ask.	01:17:47
	The city manager to help me with the.	01:17:49
	Because I'm really bad at that.	01:17:51
	And I did not want to editorialize their responses at all, so this is exactly what was.	01:17:57
	Responded to.	01:18:03
	We had a question.	01:18:05
	On the history of the term convoy, particularly how it was defined and when how it was determined.	01:18:07
	That the trucks carrying cars would not be part of a convoy.	01:18:13
	Some basic info to help and explanation as to whether trucks.	01:18:16
	Were in use at the time that the term convoy was implemented.	01:18:20
	If trucks were referred to in any other way.	01:18:24
	Or if they came later for example.	01:18:26
	So the initial response was at the time of the 2015 settlement agreement.	01:18:30
	The definition of convoy as agreed upon by the parties and reflected in their.	01:18:35
	Continued course of conduct since that time.	01:18:40
	Has only met automobiles, which excludes trucks.	01:18:43
	Then later, by contrast, the trucks are referred to in other parts of the agreement that are not related to convoy payments.	01:18:47
	For example, heavy trucks and construction trucks.	01:18:55
	Those are in the 1987 agreement.	01:18:59
	The next question.	01:19:05
	Was one thing.	01:19:08
	One thing that wasn't mentioned yesterday that may be helpful for the council to understand.	01:19:11
	Is if trucks and their vehicles aren't counted as vehicles.	01:19:16
	I'm assuming, but want to confirm that they're counted.	01:19:19
	Under one of the other methods, agreements slash agreements.	01:19:22
	The response was trucks were deliberately excluded from the 2015 settlement negotiations.	01:19:26
	And are not part of any agreement.	01:19:32
	Trucks do not go through Winami Gate and go instead through the Navy side entrance and exit through the Joint use agreement with	01:19:35
	the Navy.	01:19:39
	Those trucks do not drive down Wine Amy Rd. and therefore do not use public infrastructure, only private.	01:19:44
	Our course of conduct throughout the history of these agreements does not count trucks.	01:19:50
	Under any method.	01:19:54
	Instead, the agreements regulated the manner of travel for trucks.	01:19:56
	We also had a question.	01:20:03
	The Council had a question regarding the history.	01:20:05
	Regarding the formulas and how those amounts were arrived at.	01:20:08
	I can't do math.	01:20:12
	Can I just ask one thing? Just the process?	01:20:14
	Question. Umm.	01:20:17
	So.	01:20:18
	We're reading a whole lot.	01:20:20
	Right. And I know there's questions.	01:20:22
	Or comments.	01:20:25
	Do you want us to wait to the very end?	01:20:28
	To ask questions.	01:20:32
	I would suggest so because the other thing I was going to note also is that we also have been informed by the port that.	01:20:34
	One of their attorneys is here today and can answer or can speak further on this.	01:20:42
	So one suggestion I would have is.	01:20:47
	City attorney can provide what was the written responses and then we can give the.	01:20:49
	The ports attorney an opportunity to provide any more information, answer any questions and then.	01:20:54
	And then we can.	01:21:01
	Get into the council questions. Great.	01:21:02
	Right. Thank you.	01:21:05
	An additional reason I I believe for.	01:21:07
	Holding off on your questions, is that in later slides there were clarifications to the earlier responses. So that may answer some	01:21:10
	of your questions. Great. Thank you.	01:21:14
	All right, question #3 was.	01:21:20
	This was the math question history regarding the formulas and how those amounts were arrived at.	01:21:22
	And what were those numbers intended to represent at the time?	01:21:28
	.2719 when converted to an annualized basis.	01:21:32
	Is intended to reflect.	01:21:36
	3.33% of the port's gross operating revenues.	01:21:38
	And the response was these numbers were reached through mutual settlement negotiation of the parties.	01:21:42
	And while the rationale behind why the city originally proposed those numbers for the settlement agreements.	01:21:48
	Is less clear.	01:21:54
	The intent as stated in Section 4 of the 1987 Agreement.	01:21:56
	Was to mitigate the impacts to the district's current and future operations at the port.	01:22:01
	And my recollection is is that the.	01:22:07
	CFO.	01:22:11
	Was here at that meeting and did provide some clarification.	01:22:12
	As to how those numbers were reached.	01:22:16
	To recollection.	01:22:19
	All right, the next question was less important, but it was asked.	01:22:20
	There was a question about whether the language regarding sale of water.	01:22:23
	During a water shortage has been implemented and do you have any history on that?	01:22:27
	The response was this is a reference to Section 15 of the 1987 agreement.	01:22:33
	And it provides that the port is prohibited from selling water.	01:22:38
	To any entity or person other than to vessels, import.	01:22:42
	Or tenants for human consumption or sanitary purposes.	01:22:45
	During times of water shortage as declared by the city.	01:22:49
	And this clause is only triggered in the event of the city's declaration of a water shortage.	01:22:53
	The next page is a clarification from.	01:23:03
	I believe it was from Ruben Duran, council for the port.	01:23:08
	And he asked to clarify one of the points below from his e-mail of a couple days prior.	01:23:11
	Which we've just gone over.	01:23:17
	And it says here the 2015 settlement agreement and the three underlying agreements that were at the heart of the dispute.	01:23:20
	Between our respective clients at the time.	01:23:26
	Does not purport to address truck travel out of the port.	01:23:29
	An issue where convoy fees for car cargo.	01:23:33
	Traveled down Waeneme Rd.	01:23:36
	New vehicles coming off of vessels did not at that time, nor do they now.	01:23:38
	Have license plates issued by the California DMV.	01:23:43
	Those cars are cargo and the short trip down wine Amy Rd. to the various vehicle processing facilities facilities did and does	01:23:46
	result in wear and tear on when Amy Rd.	01:23:52
	The 2015 settlement agreement, excuse me, the 2015 settlement served to resolve the cities dispute with the port about what the	01:23:58
	convoy fees for the cargo.	01:24:03
	The cars were under the underlying agreements.	01:24:08
	And to essentially legalize that travel down the city streets.	01:24:11
	Ornami Rd.	01:24:14
	On the other hand.	01:24:17
	Cars, trucks and other vehicles coming out of the port through the Navy base onto either Sunkist Road or North Ventura Rd.	01:24:18
	Are not governed by any of the agreements.	01:24:26
	Cargo leaving the base is from a tenant at the base.	01:24:29
	Like a grocery store on base, for example.	01:24:32
	They mentioned Clovis.	01:24:35
	Clovis is not a port tenant at that point.	01:24:37
	But rather a Navy based tenant.	01:24:40
	And to emphasize the point, neither the underlying agreements.	01:24:42
	Nor the 2015 settlement agreement governed Navy based tenants.	01:24:46
	Finally, the port generally does not truck cars out of its facility.	01:24:50
	If they do, it's under extremely real circumstances.	01:24:55
	I apologize for any confusion my e-mail earlier may have caused.	01:24:59
	As always, I'm glad to discuss should you have any further questions or concerns.	01:25:03
	And this was the last communication I received. This next slide is the last communication.	01:25:09
	I received from Mr. Duran late last week. I forget if it was Wednesday or Thursday, it was late last week.	01:25:15
	Our respective clients have communicated about the port's position that the convoy fees issue.	01:25:22
	And any matters arriving from it is fully settled as between the parties.	01:25:28
	Under the 2015 settlement agreement.	01:25:32
	I understand that you have spent some time reviewing and a land analyzing that agreement.	01:25:35
	And reflected in the presentation you gave to the City Council at a meeting recently.	01:25:40
	I call to your attention then, Section 1516 and 17 of the settlement.	01:25:45
	Which reflect that fact.	01:25:50
	Specifically the.	01:25:52
	That the city did release, remise and forever discharge the district.	01:25:54
	IE the port.	01:25:58
	Of and from any and all rights, claims, etc.	01:26:00
	Which have or may have arisen, or may in the future arise.	01:26:03
	Based upon, arising out of, or relating in any way to these allegations.	01:26:07
	Raised by the city and arbitration resulting in the 2015 settlement agreement.	01:26:12
	A reference section 15 of the settlement agreement. He attached a copy of that, which is one of the slides.	01:26:17
	Recall that the issues in dispute at the time were generally the convoy fees and the revenue sharing paid to the city.	01:26:23
	By the Port under the 8387 and 1995 agreements between the parties.	01:26:30
	Section 16 and 17 of the 2015 settlement agreement are the city's waiver.	01:26:36
	Of the provisions of Civil Code section 1542.	01:26:41
	Taken together, these provisions. 2nd 1516 and 17.	01:26:45
	Protect the district from having to relitigate the claims the city brought over 10 years ago.	01:26:50
	And the potential claims that seem to be implicated or implied.	01:26:55
	By the current questions of statements by several people affiliated with the city.	01:26:59
	Including sitting sitting City Council members.	01:27:04
	With all due respect.	01:27:08
	Any discussion of what is or is not covered by the convoy fees is misplaced.	01:27:09
	And to the extent anyone at the city asserts that the trucks carrying cars out of the port.	01:27:14
	Are subject to a convey fee misguided?	01:27:19
	The record is clear that the city and the port litigated and settled the issue of payment for individual vehicles being driven	01:27:24
	down 1 Amy Rd.	01:27:28
	From the port to vehicle processing facilities operated by third parties.	01:27:32
	That the city did not raise the issue of cars carried on trucks.	01:27:37
	In the context of that, litigation and arbitration is of no concern to the port.	01:27:41
	And as I stated in my recent e-mail to you.	01:27:46
	Trucks carrying cars out of the port exit from the Navy base gates.	01:27:49
	The port has no control over these.	01:27:54
	Exit from the base.	01:27:57
	And in any event, the 2015 settlement agreement and the underlying agreements that were in dispute.	01:27:58
	Did not and do not address those circumstances.	01:28:04
	As always, happy to discuss any of this with you at your convenience.	01:28:07
	Of the next several slides are.	01:28:12
	Portions of the various agreements that were.	01:28:15
	Sent to me from Mr. Duran in connection with the.	01:28:19
	Final e-mail.	01:28:23
	Probably the most interesting portion is slide numbers.	01:28:28
	16, yes.	01:28:33
	Or looking at section 16 of the.	01:28:35
	2015 settlement agreement, which is a waiver of California Civil Code.	01:28:39
	1542.	01:28:43
	1542 Civic Code section 1542 generally means that a general lease.	01:28:45
	Does not extend to claims which you did not know or suspect to exist.	01:28:51
	In his or her favor at the time of the execution of the release.	01:28:55
	In the 2015 settlement agreement, as in as his standard.	01:29:00
	In most settlement agreement there was a waiver of that provision.	01:29:05
	And that concludes my.	01:29:11
	Presentation. I'm happy to answer any questions you may ask.	01:29:13
	OK, so let's start with.	01:29:20
	Questions.	01:29:22
	Mayor, did you want to give an opportunity for the yes, absolutely, Representative?	01:29:25
	And so I believe it's Christopher Pizano is going to speak.	01:29:33
	Good evening, Madam Mayor and City Council. It's a pleasure to.	01:29:49
	Meet you all.	01:29:53
	And to be here this evening and to talk to you about these agreements.	01:29:54
	I'm quite familiar with the 2015 settlement agreement because I wrote it.	01:30:01
	I also.	01:30:07
	Was the.	01:30:09
	Chief Litigator.	01:30:11
	On behalf of the District.	01:30:13
	Regarding the.	01:30:15
	Arbitration and.	01:30:17
	2 lawsuits and one of.	01:30:20
	One appeal or two appeals, I can't remember.	01:30:23
	That we all fought over.	01:30:27
	My client and you.	01:30:29
	Back, I think it was between 2013 and 2015 and it was a.	01:30:32
	A contentious.	01:30:39
	Hotly contested.	01:30:41
	Litigation matter.	01:30:44
	Involving 2 public entities, which is always an unfortunate thing.	01:30:46
	Because it's public dollars fighting against public dollars.	01:30:50
	That you know that frankly, they're better spent elsewhere.	01:30:53
	But.	01:30:56
	The city chose to.	01:30:59
	Start the fight.	01:31:01
	And it was over.	01:31:02
	The accounting practices of the district.	01:31:04
	How we calculated gross operating revenue.	01:31:08
	And under the underlying agreements 1980, three, 1987 and 1995.	01:31:11
	The city gets a percentage of that gross operating revenue.	01:31:17
	And in the 2013 time.	01:31:21
	The claim from.	01:31:24
	From this entity was that we weren't calculating it correctly.	01:31:26
	And needed to make some changes in our accounting.	01:31:30
	And then as a secondary.	01:31:34
	Litigation matter.	01:31:36
	There was an allegation that we were not calculating the convoy fee correctly.	01:31:38
	In 1987.	01:31:44
	The convoy The convoying of cars was capped at 50,000.	01:31:47
	And then there was a fee.	01:31:52
	Per car that was associated with that.	01:31:54
	In the 1995 agreement, that 50,000 cap was lifted.	01:31:57
	And this and the district paid a premium for every car above 50,000.	01:32:02
	But there was an open question as to whether the district was entitled to an offset.	01:32:07
	For the convoy fee above 50,000.	01:32:12
	That was another issue that was hotly contested.	01:32:15
	And was actually subject to an arbitration that was.	01:32:18
	Try doing arbitrator, but the arbitrator never.	01:32:22
	Reached a decision because.	01:32:25
	At the time, City Attorney Mark Hensley and I and.	01:32:28
	District CEO Kristen Dicus, who's in the audience, and then City Manager Cynthia Haas.	01:32:33
	We all sat in A room.	01:32:39
	Not that far from here.	01:32:41
	And we hammered out these terms, which we then memorialized in this agreement.	01:32:43
	And the purpose of this agreement was to.	01:32:49
	Put all this to bed.	01:32:52
	To move on.	01:32:56
	We sort of reconfirmed how the convoy fee would be charged.	01:32:59
	How the gross operating revenues will be calculated?	01:33:03
	And then we.	01:33:07
	Came to this agreement and we would get rid of the lawsuits and the arbitration and the appeals.	01:33:09
	All of which were going on at the same time.	01:33:15
	And and we would each release each other from all claims, known and unknown.	01:33:18
	And your city attorney pointed out the 1542 waiver, that was not by accident and that was not.	01:33:24
	Boilerplate or standard fare?	01:33:31
	That was very important to my client.	01:33:33
	And as I suspect.	01:33:36
	It was very important to.	01:33:38
	This body that sat here before, we didn't want to have to do this again.	01:33:41
	I'm happy to answer any questions.	01:33:46
	About.	01:33:49
	If you have.	01:33:50
	Issues or concerns about.	01:33:51
	How we're supposed to.	01:33:54
	Calculate fees or things of that nature, but.	01:33:58
	I can tell you this, those waivers.	01:34:02
	Very broad, and that was very intentional.	01:34:05
	And if there is another lawsuit that's that arises out of this.	01:34:08
	I would respectfully submit that, in my legal opinion, that would be a violation of the 2015 agreement.	01:34:13
	And I hope we don't go there, but I'm happy to answer any questions that you all might have.	01:34:20
	OK. Thank you. Thank you so much. One comment, please. Thank you.	01:34:24
	I do want to say that when I made the presentation to this board in 20.	01:34:29
	December 16.	01:34:35
	2024.	01:34:36
	I researched those agreements and provided a synopsis of those agreements.	01:34:38
	Just to let us know what is.	01:34:42
	I did not do that with any intention of litigation.	01:34:44
	We've never mentioned litigation on this on our side, so I'm a little offended by where you're going, but okay.	01:34:49
	That was clearly just to provide knowledge to the Council and in particular to our newest Council member.	01:34:56
	Mayor Pro Tem Lopez.	01:35:03
	I just want to put that out there.	01:35:05
	I didn't mean to insinuate anything.	01:35:08
	Yeah, you did.	01:35:11
	OK.	01:35:12
	No, you go ahead, Go ahead.	01:35:14
	Councilman.	01:35:17
	The point of me being here today is to.	01:35:19
	Have a discussion with you all to hopefully put this to rest and to let you know that in 2015.	01:35:24
	There was a conscious effort on the part of both my client and you.	01:35:31
	To close this book and to never open it again.	01:35:37
	OK, great. So we're going to take questions just a minute. Thank you so much for saying that because that was really going to be	01:35:41
	my comment.	01:35:43
	We're we're trying to.	01:35:46
	Understand more the contract right?	01:35:49
	And I think we all are pretty good readers.	01:35:53
	And So what we don't want to do, and this is no disrespect to anyone, what we don't want to do, I think is what no one in this	01:35:57
	room does when they sign a contract.	01:36:02
	Is take what's told to them?	01:36:07
	So we're trying to find out what it really means. And so we have questions that we're going to ask to try to get there. And so	01:36:10
	you're here tonight. You said hopefully to put this to bed.	01:36:15
	I don't think.	01:36:21
	That is going to be put to bed tonight.	01:36:22
	Because I think we have other questions sure need to ask and that we need to have answered.	01:36:24
	So we appreciate you being here and we're glad that you're willing to take questions from us. So.	01:36:28
	We have some questions and we're going to do our very best to.	01:36:34
	Kind of get through them.	01:36:37
	So that we're smarter for it, and so that we know how we need to proceed.	01:36:39
	OK. And it's not about litigation at this point. It's about fact finding, trying to understand what the words mean, not what.	01:36:43
	What's?	01:36:52
	What people believe the word means So. So it's fact finding and so that's what we're going to do.	01:36:54
	Thank you, Madam Mayor. I appreciate that. Appreciate that. Appreciate that so.	01:36:59
	In addition to being willing to answer your questions this evening.	01:37:03
	I'm also willing to work with your city count or your city attorney after today.	01:37:07
	If this matter is not put to bed tonight, I will work with her until we can hopefully put it to bed at some point. Great, we	01:37:12
	appreciate that. If you could, please give me your business card because I only communicate through Mr. Durant and I think it	01:37:17
	would be helpful to be able to communicate with you directly.	01:37:23
	Particularly with respect to reviewing the prior litigation.	01:37:28
	Happy to.	01:37:32
	Thank you. So at this point we're going to take.	01:37:33
	Questions. No.	01:37:36
	Discussion if you have specific questions that you have.	01:37:38
	Please ask questions.	01:37:42
	Ready, Councilmember Gama? Yes.	01:37:45
	I believe it's most appropriate to direct our questions to our city attorney.	01:37:48
	And.	01:37:53
	Quite frankly, you're coming in a little hot and don't appreciate it.	01:37:54
	But I want to ask our city attorney like.	01:37:59
	We are both public agencies. Is that correct?	01:38:02
	I mean, I know the port is a special district, but the port is a public agency. Is that correct? To the best of my knowledge it is	01:38:06
	OK and.	01:38:10
	Madam City Attorney.	01:38:14
	It's my understanding back in 1984 when I was a junior in college, I remember reading about the port.	01:38:16
	Entering into agreement with BMW.	01:38:24
	To bring cars to the city through the city.	01:38:27
	I believe I may be not accurate but.	01:38:31
	In what we've learned.	01:38:34
	At or about that time, the port came to the city and said, hey, we're going to be bringing cars in and we're going to give you	01:38:36
	money. I'm just paraphrasing.	01:38:40
	An agreement was made.	01:38:44
	Is that accurate that the initial agreement was in or about 19?	01:38:48
	84 when for the first time the port was going to bring cars through the city. Is that accurate?	01:38:53
	19 OK, OK.	01:38:59
	There were lots of them, lots of several agreements. I believe the first one was 1983. And so when it comes to public agencies,	01:39:02
	first public agency or even a private agency for that matter, versus a public agency like Disneyland.	01:39:08
	When Disneyland decided to build California Adventure Park, they would have had to come to the city, correct?	01:39:15
	Yes, OK. So.	01:39:23
	Where I'm going is is that there's been a lot of changes since 1984.	01:39:26
	At some point they started bringing in tractors. John Deere.	01:39:32
	Volvo dump trucks.	01:39:36
	At some point they started bringing in.	01:39:38
	Oversized loads that require a.	01:39:41
	CHP escort.	01:39:45
	Councilman, we never.	01:39:46
	We never had the courtesy of of.	01:39:48
	Of discussing those new.	01:39:51
	Methods of operations because it.	01:39:53
	The whole point.	01:39:55
	Is to cover the cost of impacts, is that correct?	01:39:57
	That was the stated purpose of the agreements, yes, to cover the cost of infrastructure impacts. OK. So if if hold on, hold on	01:40:01
	just one second, hold on just a second.	01:40:06
	So if you have specific questions, I know you're asking those, but a roundabout way, but if you have right now specific questions	01:40:11
	because we have to go through the process, we're going to come back to discussion.	01:40:16
	But right now we had a presentation. We want to take some questions.	01:40:21
	Were you the one who wrote the response that said trucks don't go down Ventura Rd.	01:40:28
	No, I was not OK.	01:40:33
	The city attorney to date has been dealing with the port's general counsel. OK, but I would suggest that trucks do don't go down	01:40:35
	Ventura Rd.	01:40:39
	All the time.	01:40:43
	How is it that an expert from your side?	01:40:45
	Responded incorrectly.	01:40:48
	Well, those those trucks exit the Navy's. No Sir, you don't live around here. We see the trucks.	01:40:50
	We're talking banana trucks. All kinds of trucks go down Ventura Rd.	01:40:56
	Not just auto transport trucks. OK, OK, so that's a fact.	01:41:00
	OK, but it was misstated.	01:41:05
	Initially.	01:41:08
	And that's troubling.	01:41:09
	OK, I apologize for the misstatement. It was a.	01:41:11
	It was a miscommunication and it was later corrected.	01:41:16
	So I think it's really important that we ask questions.	01:41:22
	If we want, I'd like to get some things on the record.	01:41:26
	OK, so let's ask the questions to get some things on the record.	01:41:29
	And then let's let's kind of move on. I think that will be a first step. Yes. Thank you.	01:41:33
	So.	01:41:38
	Is the intent.	01:41:41
	Of any agreement.	01:41:45
	The intent is to cover.	01:41:47
	The costs associated with operations from the port that affect the city is that.	01:41:50
	Generally true.	01:41:54
	I think that's the gist. I mean, look, the bottom line is this Councilman.	01:41:55
	I can't speak to the intent of the 8387 or 95 agreements because I wasn't around at that point in time. Maybe you could answer	01:42:01
	this?	01:42:06
	If we if we have the body, if.	01:42:12
	If we if we as a body.	01:42:15
	Councilmember.	01:42:18
	You asked, let him answer the question and then you could go to another question.	01:42:19
	But he's answering, so let him answer that question.	01:42:23
	Like your city attorney?	01:42:26
	I've I've read the agreements.	01:42:28
	I believe that that was.	01:42:31
	The overarching intent was was to provide a mechanism for the district to reimburse the city.	01:42:34
	For some of its hard costs for Rd. maintenance and things of that nature. And I think I heard you say, I think you would agree	01:42:41
	with this that it's better to talk.	01:42:45
	Because if if.	01:42:50
	I agree if that's not occurring.	01:42:51
	If the city is not recouping its cost.	01:42:54
	Then we need to talk and have conversations that matter around that subject.	01:42:57
	But umm.	01:43:01
	It appears to be that.	01:43:02
	There's a need for a lot of conversations.	01:43:04
	Regarding.	01:43:07
	What has changed since 1984?	01:43:08
	And don't we?	01:43:11
	Up here have a fiduciary responsibility.	01:43:13
	To address.	01:43:16
	Anything that we learn is not covering our costs.	01:43:18
	Well, I would answer your question this way. Do you have a fiduciary duty? You have a duty to your, to your people, obviously the	01:43:23
	people that you represent.	01:43:27
	The people who sat in these chairs and in the district's chairs back in the 1980s and early 1990s.	01:43:34
	They did their level best.	01:43:43
	To look into the future.	01:43:45
	As to what those costs might be.	01:43:47
	And they they agreed to.	01:43:50
	What would be compensated? And they agreed to escalators, escalation clauses.	01:43:54
	Which?	01:44:01
	I am assuming.	01:44:02
	That those folks said.	01:44:04
	How are we going to make sure that in the future it still covers our costs?	01:44:07
	And this is what they came up with.	01:44:12
	Now, umm.	01:44:14
	Good, bad or indifferent, that's what those agreements say.	01:44:15
	And I can't speak to the intent other than what's written.	01:44:19
	And I don't know whether.	01:44:24
	That covers your costs or not. I haven't looked into your ****** and any specificity lately. I know I did back in 2015, but it's	01:44:25
	been a while.	01:44:31
	So, you know, I apologize, I'm not up to speed in terms of.	01:44:37
	You're all's financial situation, but I do know that.	01:44:43
	They tried to anticipate that back in the 80s and 90s. And what if we're off?	01:44:47
	I think he just answered that.	01:44:54
	I don't know. The contracts don't provide a remedy. My last question is, I think what I heard from you is.	01:44:57
	This is it. You're stuck with it. Deal with it. That's kind of the message I got from you.	01:45:03
	Is that true?	01:45:08
	Well.	01:45:09
	I'm look I'm here to answer questions again.	01:45:11
	I want to answer questions, I don't want to come in hot.	01:45:15
	I apologize if I came in hot.	01:45:19
	I'm here to answer questions about.	01:45:23
	What these agreements say, all I can tell you is what was going on in everyone's head in 2015 when we tried to put.	01:45:26
	Some really expensive litigation behind us, OK.	01:45:34
	Great. Yeah.	01:45:38
	Did you have something city man? I just wanted to add that.	01:45:38
	The port answer.	01:45:45
	Might be different than the city's answer.	01:45:47
	But I'm not prepared to give advice at this point as to what the city's position is going to or legal position should be.	01:45:50
	I haven't reviewed the litigation documents. I haven't looked at the arbitration.	01:45:58
	I haven't, you know, done a deep dive.	01:46:03
	Into them, and I think that that really would be necessary.	01:46:06
	To make a legal determination to advise this board.	01:46:10
	If it wanted to proceed with litigation or not. But I do think it's important to remember that at this point we're not talking	01:46:14
	about litigation. That's right. We are talking about getting facts.	01:46:20
	And getting some answers to the extent that you can provide them. And we appreciate you being here. I know I'm going to be writing	01:46:25
	to you and asking you.	01:46:29
	Copies of those pleadings and and I and I think that is such a good question and I have a full pleading file I'm sure you do that	01:46:33
	I would be happy to put onto a share link and send to you. That would be terrific. Absolutely that I do think.	01:46:41
	In order for me really to advise you and give you any sort of.	01:46:49
	Information.	01:46:54
	On how to proceed.	01:46:55
	We need to do a real deep dive into what was going on, probably starting with the litigation in 2013 would be my guess.	01:46:57
	And then resulting in the 2015.	01:47:04
	Settlement agreement.	01:47:07
	And that 1542 waiver?	01:47:09
	You really have to research also how broad are those waivers? And that's definitely a legal research question. Thank you. Thank	01:47:11
	you, Councilmember Hernandez.	01:47:15
	Yes, thank you for being here and thank you to the port staffer being here as well.	01:47:21
	My question is that.	01:47:27
	Well, first let me make a statement here that I don't think this Council has a whole.	01:47:29
	Has agreed that we want to.	01:47:34
	That we've made the claim that we're not getting our costs covered.	01:47:38
	We're not. We're not in agreement on that. We haven't had a discussion on that. We've not even looked at the numbers.	01:47:41
	So my first question is.	01:47:49
	Has there been a maybe the city manager can answer?	01:47:52
	Has there been any movement toward looking at whether or not?	01:47:55
	1st If those trucks are coming out the wrong gates, are we absolutely are we measured the traffic.	01:48:00
	Of those trucks in any way in order to make the claim that they are using the wrong roads.	01:48:06
	And have we looked at?	01:48:11
	Whether or not our costs are being covered, I don't think we.	01:48:12
	We have but.	01:48:15
	We're jumping the gun. We're going a little too far ahead. Yeah, I think I'm going to just kind of remind everybody that we	01:48:17
	started December 4th asking 3 questions, right? I think that was it. So have we, have we done a full analysis? No.	01:48:23
	You know, I think.	01:48:30
	At some point.	01:48:32
	Sort of moving forward, I think.	01:48:34
	Just information sharing is going to be key between the agencies and I think.	01:48:35
	Obviously Council is going to discuss it today, but.	01:48:40
	For US, one of the things we would.	01:48:43
	Look for as more opportunities for information sharing.	01:48:45
	Thank you. Yes.	01:48:49
	Go ahead.	01:48:51
	OK, so in in one of the responses that one of the second responses.	01:48:53
	Can I just say this really quick?	01:49:00
	Yes, before Madam Mayor Pro Tem asked this question.	01:49:02
	I think.	01:49:05
	I'm glad that you're here and there are some questions that we can post to you, but like our city manager said, we got responses	01:49:07
	to three questions that we had.	01:49:11
	And I just heard that you did answer any of them.	01:49:15
	You didn't answer those questions that we had.	01:49:18
	So I think posing.	01:49:20
	The questions regarding the responses to you.	01:49:23
	Might be.	01:49:26
	Might not be the right thing because you didn't write the responses.	01:49:28
	I didn't write the responses that were on the screen. My part, my partner did.	01:49:32
	Yeah. So what I'm saying is those responses, 3 responses, I think those responses.	01:49:38
	The responses to our three questions came from the Port's attorney.	01:49:44
	Is the general counsel general counsel, not you?	01:49:49
	Correct. I'm not the general counsel. Yeah. So there there are some questions we have, but.	01:49:52
	I think the majority of them are probably tied to the responses to our original 3 questions OK that you probably won't be able to	01:49:56
	help us with because you didn't respond. They weren't your responses.	01:50:02
	That true, but I can help you because we could put it on the record. I know these agreements quite well or these agreements well.	01:50:08
	And and you've read, you know what the responses have been.	01:50:13
	I read the PowerPoint and I have seen the e-mail exchanges. OK, OK, good. Because I have some questions too. Go ahead.	01:50:20
	So as a retired military veteran who uses the base a lot and who lives near.	01:50:26
	The Sunkist Gate.	01:50:33
	I could tell you that the trucks do come out of.	01:50:36
	The trucks do come out of the Sunkist Gate.	01:50:39
	Because on the weekends.	01:50:43
	The Victoria gate closes, which is the main gate OK.	01:50:45
	But in the response that says Clovis is a.	01:50:48
	Secondary tenant of the base.	01:50:52
	So does that kind of just?	01:50:55
	Wash your hands as.	01:50:57
	A contractor who uses.	01:50:59
	The facilities.	01:51:01
	They become their own entity, so they're not.	01:51:03
	Bound to.	01:51:05
	Gate Which gate to use like?	01:51:07
	The corridor for the trucks.	01:51:10
	Well, we don't have control over those folks.	01:51:12
	That it's not like the convoy.	01:51:16
	Where we have control.	01:51:18
	Over which gate they go out of and and.	01:51:21
	The way that 1987 agreement is set up is we're supposed to meet and confer on.	01:51:24
	Which rode Those convoys are supposed to go down.	01:51:30
	And.	01:51:33
	That's what we do.	01:51:35
	Truck traffic from.	01:51:36
	A contractor like.	01:51:41
	Globus.	01:51:43
	Which operates on the navies.	01:51:45
	Portion of the.	01:51:48
	Port, not our portion.	01:51:50
	We offload cars.	01:51:53
	We send them to Glovis.	01:51:56
	And that's the end of our responsibility for those particular cars. They do what they do.	01:51:58
	Subject to an agreement they have with the Navy.	01:52:04
	And.	01:52:07
	Where they go out is something that we don't control now.	01:52:09
	When we receive a car.	01:52:14
	That then goes to globus.	01:52:18
	That's part of our revenue.	01:52:21
	That is calculated as gross operating revenue.	01:52:24
	Of which a percentage is paid to the city.	01:52:27
	So you are being.	01:52:31
	Compensated.	01:52:36
	To a certain extent, whether it's full or not, I don't know, but you are being compensated for that car.	01:52:38
	From us.	01:52:45
	Yeah, I guess what specifically what I'm getting at is.	01:52:47
	When those trucks actually enter.	01:52:51
	Sunkist Gate.	01:52:54
	And they're they're turning left on a left turn.	01:52:56
	You know, those are those trailers are two they're.	01:53:00
	They're connected in twos, tandem and twos.	01:53:03
	Well, they're sticking out.	01:53:06
	Into Ventura Rd.	01:53:08
	Which becomes a public safety issue.	01:53:10
	Because.	01:53:13
	When you're trying when you're behind that, you're technically in the.	01:53:14
	In the two lanes of the road.	01:53:19
	And you're.	01:53:22
	If the car behind you is not paying attention, you're going to get rear-ended.	01:53:23
	Because you're you're totally compromised, so the whole truck takes the whole left lane.	01:53:27
	And this is what we.	01:53:32
	This is what I see a lot and.	01:53:34
	And it just seems like.	01:53:36
	If this is a globus thing and it's happening on the weekends.	01:53:38
	This this becomes a public safety issue.	01:53:42
	And it's it's going to.	01:53:46
	It's just going to be time when there is going to be an accident there.	01:53:48
	And we're, you know.	01:53:51
	I don't want to say that I told you so.	01:53:54
	But there's likelihood this can't happen.	01:53:57
	OK, Yeah.	01:54:00
	OK. Did you have any other questions?	01:54:02
	OK, so.	01:54:04
	I have a couple of questions.	01:54:06
	So.	01:54:08
	In and I'm just going to kind of refer to.	01:54:11
	Some of these documents.	01:54:14
	So in in the contract.	01:54:16
	It refers to convoy.	01:54:19
	Can you explain to us what?	01:54:21
	It was meant to be written the contract meant.	01:54:23
	By using the word convoy, what what did that mean?	01:54:27
	So the 1987 agreement.	01:54:30
	Talked about the convoy.	01:54:33
	And again, I can't speak to intent of 87 because.	01:54:36
	I wasn't here.	01:54:41
	I was in high school.	01:54:43
	College. All right.	01:54:44
	I was out of law school by then, but anyway.	01:54:46
	But look.	01:54:51
	87 had.	01:54:53
	In in 83.	01:54:55
	The only payment that was.	01:54:58
	From the district to the city was via gross operating revenue.	01:55:01
	Two ways of calculating it.	01:55:05
	But ultimately, it was gross operating revenue.	01:55:08
	In 87.	01:55:11
	They have this convoy fee.	01:55:14
	That was, as far as I can tell, the only.	01:55:17
	Fee that the district was going to pay to the city.	01:55:20
	In addition to.	01:55:24
	Gross operating revenue.	01:55:27
	So it's a separate.	01:55:29
	Fee that you get on top of the gross operating revenue.	01:55:31
	Why? I don't know.	01:55:34
	I don't know what was going on back then.	01:55:37
	It might have been that that was around the time the BMW thing.	01:55:40
	Happened, uh.	01:55:44
	And they said here's a good way to get the cars from the port to the processing center.	01:55:45
	And we'll pay you guys a buck a car.	01:55:50
	Which will compensate you for the wear and tear on the road. And so that's a separate fee above and beyond gross operating	01:55:53
	revenue.	01:55:56
	Everything else.	01:55:59
	Was intended to.	01:56:01
	Fit within gross operating revenue.	01:56:02
	OK.	01:56:06
	So.	01:56:08
	Based on some of the new.	01:56:12
	Not processes, but things that are happening now. Truck cars are being put on trucks.	01:56:15
	How? How is the city compensated for that?	01:56:20
	Well, then again, it's my understanding that that.	01:56:25
	That is from. That's what Globus is doing.	01:56:28
	The port is still moving.	01:56:32
	The.	01:56:34
	That, uh.	01:56:36
	It receives.	01:56:37
	Through the convoy.	01:56:39
	And you get the convoy fee.	01:56:41
	If if if globus is.	01:56:44
	Processing on their own over on the Navy side and then taking it out.	01:56:48
	Your compensation from us is through the gross operating revenue payment.	01:56:53
	Which I alluded to early, alluded to earlier, that car that we take send over to Globus.	01:56:58
	You get a cut.	01:57:04
	Of that fee that we get for that car.	01:57:05
	OK. So when you said that the cars that go to the port?	01:57:09
	They all really go to the port, right?	01:57:15
	And then they're transported over to the base.	01:57:18
	Some I think the.	01:57:21
	And the.	01:57:24
	The key is in the Hyundai.	01:57:26
	Go to Glovis, which operates over on the Navy side. Where do they come in at?	01:57:28
	They come in off the port. OK, so they all really come out the out off at the port. They come off at the port. Some stays at the	01:57:32
	port and then some go over to the military base. Yes. OK, where? Yes. So when they go over to the military base, are they now	01:57:38
	military property or do they still belong to the port? Well, they don't belong to the neither.	01:57:44
	Because my understanding is globus.	01:57:51
	Has an agreement with the Navy.	01:57:53
	To operate on a portion of the Navy's.	01:57:56
	Property.	01:58:01
	And Globus is then responsible for getting those cars, those Kias and those Hyundais.	01:58:03
	To retail market.	01:58:09
	They process it on the Navy's base and then they get it to the retailers.	01:58:13
	IKEA and Hyundai.	01:58:18
	And that's what I understand is being put on the trucks.	01:58:20
	And sent through city streets.	01:58:23
	OK, so based on what your understanding is about.	01:58:25
	The convoys that still.	01:58:29
	Come from the port of Port Hueneme.	01:58:31
	Can you tell tell us why?	01:58:36
	The port.	01:58:38
	Pays us for that.	01:58:40
	Why? Why would they pay for that?	01:58:42
	For the for the cars to be transported from the port.	01:58:43
	Up Wine EMI Rd.	01:58:47
	Because that's what we agreed to in 1987 and we honor our contracts and that was because of the.	01:58:48
	The road, the paying for the maintenance, things like that.	01:58:55
	So, umm.	01:58:58
	Do you believe?	01:58:59
	That the same is true.	01:59:01
	Whether it's on traveling.	01:59:03
	Individual cars.	01:59:06
	Versus a truck.	01:59:08
	Do you think there's still?	01:59:09
	We're still receiving damage to our roads.	01:59:11
	If they're single vehicles or if they're on the truck.	01:59:15
	Because when I think about it, the weight is the same.	01:59:19
	Probably more because of the truck.	01:59:22
	Right. And So what?	01:59:24
	What? What's in the contract about that?	01:59:26
	Is there anything written?	01:59:28
	That says.	01:59:30
	You know, if it's on a truck.	01:59:31
	Then we should treat it differently.	01:59:33
	So what does it say about that? Yeah, I mean, look, I understand what you're grappling with here.	01:59:37
	And all I can say is that 8787 agreement have that one limited additional fee.	01:59:43
	For the convoy fee.	01:59:49
	From What Goes down, Wineemi Rd.	01:59:51
	Leaves the port.	01:59:54
	Travels down Wine Me Rd. in a convoy to a processing facility which.	01:59:55
	I think is an Oxnard.	02:00:00
	And in 87.	02:00:04
	I'm not, I'm not. I won't say we, but.	02:00:07
	The port.	02:00:10
	Officials and the city officials agreed.	02:00:11
	Buck a car.	02:00:14
	With an escalator.	02:00:15
	And that's.	02:00:18
	What you get on top of the gross operating revenue?	02:00:19
	Everything else.	02:00:22
	Is.	02:00:24
	The intent as I understand it.	02:00:26
	From 83 and 87, was that gross operating revenue and the percentage of that that you get?	02:00:29
	Is designed to cover everything else.	02:00:37
	Whether it does or not, I don't know.	02:00:40
	OK, guys. Got it. Thank you for that.	02:00:42
	Umm, the other question that I had.	02:00:46
	Was.	02:00:48
	So do you believe if the trucks are actually?	02:00:52
	Driving on.	02:00:56
	Port Wine, EMI Streets.	02:00:58
	That.	02:01:00
	That is part of maintaining.	02:01:01
	The streets, I mean, Do you believe that?	02:01:04
	I think that any vehicle that travels over any public St.	02:01:07
	Causes wear and tear to that street that ultimately.	02:01:12
	Repairs and maintenance need to be done.	02:01:17
	Whether the agreements.	02:01:20
	Fully compensate you for that or not.	02:01:23
	I do not know.	02:01:27
	But I believe that the intent from 83 and 87 was.	02:01:28
	To look in the future and try to come up with a system that will compensate you.	02:01:33
	Great. Thank you, Madam Mayor, if I may make one comment.	02:01:38
	It's my recollection that the 1987 agreement is the one that references convoys.	02:01:42
	But there's no definition of what a convoy is.	02:01:48
	So trying to grapple with that now.	02:01:52
	Trying to figure out what was intended by that term.	02:01:55
	A few years ago, 1987, I was already practicing law.	02:02:00
	I think it's problematic because it's not defined in the agreement. That's my recollection.	02:02:05
	I think you're right.	02:02:10
	So I, you know, I always fall back to the ordinary meaning of the word convoy.	02:02:12
	And I'm reminded of when I think of the word convoy, I think of the movie Smokey and the Bandit.	02:02:17
	Convoy a group of cars that go one after the other.	02:02:26
	Rolling down the same Rd.	02:02:29
	Well, it's hard to figure out if it means one or more than one. I mean, I think it does, but I've, you know, tried looking up	02:02:31
	various definitions.	02:02:35
	And it's not clear to me exactly what that means. And does that also include?	02:02:39
	The trucks, I don't sitting here today, I don't have that answer.	02:02:44
	And I think it warrants further discussion. Better Mayor.	02:02:48
	Hold on. Yes, go right ahead on the convoy and tracks. I did come across the definition.	02:02:53
	From the military.	02:02:58
	Where uh.	02:03:00
	A group of vehicles headed in the same direction under the protection of a bigger.	02:03:01
	System.	02:03:06
	So that sounds good to me.	02:03:08
	And the reason I'm asked, only reason I'm asking the questions is because.	02:03:12
	The response to our first question.	02:03:15
	From the Port General Attorney.	02:03:17
	Council was.	02:03:20
	At the time 2015 settlement, the definition of convoy as agreed upon by the parties, which I would.	02:03:23
	My other question was, who were those parties?	02:03:29
	And reflect it in their continued course of conduct since that time.	02:03:32
	Has only meant automobiles, so that is.	02:03:36
	What was told to us?	02:03:39
	Right. And so we're trying to say.	02:03:41
	Really. Is this what it meant, or is this the perception of what?	02:03:44
	It's believed that it meant.	02:03:48
	Right. Yeah.	02:03:50
	And so.	02:03:51
	That's why we're asking the questions because.	02:03:52
	You know, we have responses and we're trying to.	02:03:54
	Right through those and say, OK, what is this really?	02:03:56
	Saying is that.	02:03:59
	Is it a perspective?	02:04:01
	Right. Umm.	02:04:02
	Is the perspective of who's telling us.	02:04:03
	Or is it really?	02:04:06
	What was the the?	02:04:08
	I want to say.	02:04:09
	Not the letter of the law, but the terms of the agreement. Yeah, the terms of really the agreements. And so I think that's one of	02:04:11
	the the, the, the concerns or issues that we're having is.	02:04:16
	Who's telling us?	02:04:22
	Is from the port and that's not I'm not I'm not saying it's not US against them, but what I am saying is.	02:04:24
	Like any of us when we have a contract, if I had a contract with you.	02:04:31
	Am I going to just take what you say and say OK, he said it?	02:04:34
	No, I'm gonna say come on, let's talk about it.	02:04:38
	Let's make sure that we're really all understanding, and that's really what this is about.	02:04:40
	Trying to really just understand.	02:04:44
	Where we are and just make sure that we.	02:04:46
	We are understanding, so we know how we need to.	02:04:49
	To move forward. And when I say that, I don't mean litigation, OK, conversation, right?	02:04:52
	I mean, conversation is important to really understand.	02:04:57
	What this?	02:05:00
	Information what these contracts really mean. I agree.	02:05:01
	And I will say this in response.	02:05:05
	In 2013.	02:05:08
	The city started the lawsuit.	02:05:11
	And the claim was about the vehicle convoy fee.	02:05:14
	We never talked about trucks. It never came up because it wasn't part of.	02:05:19
	Your lawsuit against us.	02:05:25
	So let me follow on to that then.	02:05:28
	So it wasn't part of it. But we know, right? We all know.	02:05:31
	That, uh.	02:05:35
	That times have changed and cars aren't convoying.	02:05:37
	As individual vehicles, they're being put on trucks now.	02:05:42
	And so let me ask you this question. This may be helpful.	02:05:46
	So.	02:05:49
	And I don't know, maybe.	02:05:51
	Kristen OR.	02:05:52
	Austin. Austin, Sorry, Austin can help us.	02:05:55
	So, umm.	02:05:58
	So I think what I'm hearing is.	02:06:00
	When we convoy vehicles.	02:06:03
	Cars.	02:06:06
	That we are not receiving.	02:06:08
	Per vehicle.	02:06:12
	Fee that we we.	02:06:14
	Were receiving.	02:06:16
	When all the cars convoy, now they're being placed on trucks and so we're not receiving.	02:06:18
	No, the ones that go to Clovis are you saying are the ones?	02:06:24
	Those were never subject to the convoy fee.	02:06:28
	That was a set. That was a separate thing.	02:06:31
	That was happening.	02:06:34
	In 2013.	02:06:36
	OK, Chris, I think you may know where I'm trying to get to. Just I was just gonna say that it's always been the practice of the	02:06:38
	port.	02:06:41
	To drive the vehicles to promote facilities and then they get processed and go to market from there. So BMW down the street, WW	02:06:45
	down the street and Globus over here.	02:06:49
	And so it's not new practice since we had the discussion of the convoy feedback in 2013, fourteen and 15, the practice was the	02:06:54
	same. I just want to clarify that. Thank you.	02:06:59
	Prior to those contracts.	02:07:04
	We we weren't talking about trucks.	02:07:06
	So the truck revenue is all captured.	02:07:09
	Through the gross operating revenue that we have and we also have stated on page 10 of I believe the 1987 agreement.	02:07:13
	The caps on trucks, like they do address trucking and there are limits and we're well below those limits in that practice. So it	02:07:23
	was looked at and framed into the original agreements.	02:07:29
	For the, you know whether it's a Chiquita Chuck, a Damani truck, all of that was considered and factored in and the gross	02:07:36
	operating revenue is where you make.	02:07:40
	The money for the impacts from the port off our off our revenue sharing which I think Austin wanted to make a quick point if he	02:07:45
	may on that and before he makes his Austin, I remember last time we talked, we talked about weight and we talked about per unit.	02:07:51
	Yes.	02:07:57
	Can you, are you going to share? Is that what you're going to be talking?	02:07:58
	Thank you, Madam Mayor, members of the Council.	02:08:04
	I just want to mention that like you know, the port grew.	02:08:06
	Definitely.	02:08:09
	So like you know those agreement built-in mechanism has port do better.	02:08:10
	If Port does better see they're going to get more revenue sharing because.	02:08:15
	You know all the cars based on like you know?	02:08:19
	Every cars coming through the port will get worthy revenue and port city will get about 7% of our total revenue. So.	02:08:23
	Back in 1983, we share total revenue sharing was.	02:08:30
	Merely 24,000 dollars.	02:08:35
	But 2024, the port revenue sharing to the city.	02:08:38
	Grew into about $2.9 million. It's when really, you know, grew a lot.	02:08:42
	And convoy, for example, 87 convoy fees started from $1.00 per car.	02:08:47
	But every two year?	02:08:53
	Quarter cent, like a $0.25 increase, is built into the convoy fee.	02:08:55
	And 95 agreement, we recognize number of cars grew, so we added premium on convoy. So 1st 50,000 cars getting $1.00, but every two	02:08:59
	years $0.25 of create, you know increase.	02:09:07
	And anything over.	02:09:15
	25,000 I mean 50,000 cars will get premium revenue sharing for $1.05.	02:09:17
	So at this point.	02:09:24
	Old, you know, car Convoy P4 for 50,000 cars is $3 and 8085 cents per car.	02:09:26
	And anything over 50,000 cars will get $4.89.	02:09:33
	So all those you know revenue sharing has built in mechanism to.	02:09:39
	If we do better.	02:09:44
	And city will get more revenue sharing.	02:09:45
	That's all I want to say, Mary. Thank you.	02:09:48
	I have some.	02:09:51
	Comments and questions.	02:09:52
	So.	02:09:54
	Couple of the issues brought up from the emails, the inconsistencies and the untruths that.	02:09:58
	I'm hearing from the emails. Well the first one was the trucks do not come. Trucks carrying cars don't come down riding me Rd.	02:10:04
	But that is not true. They do come out of Winey Me Rd.	02:10:11
	They come from the port down Wine Me Road and they go to wherever they're being distributed at.	02:10:14
	The other issue is that.	02:10:19
	Back in the time when they did this agreement we weren't talking about.	02:10:22
	Large trucks carrying massive size lithium batteries.	02:10:26
	That weigh so much more and caused so much impact on our street, which you talked about the $2.9 million.	02:10:30
	That we get.	02:10:36
	That barely covers how much it costs to pay Wine Me Rd. our portion of Wine Amy Rd.	02:10:37
	For your use.	02:10:42
	For the trucks. So I mean it's there has to be some way of us being able to take a look at this and understand that costs have	02:10:44
	increased so much, the weights of your vehicles have increased so much and the impact on our roads has increased so much. And we	02:10:50
	have to be able to talk about this and figure out a solution.	02:10:56
	Where everybody is.	02:11:02
	Reaping the benefits of this Otherwise we're just going to keep.	02:11:05
	Not being able to pave our roads. There's going to be impacts to our roads and we're just going to keep having this discussion.	02:11:08
	Councilwoman, I understand what you're saying and I think what you're saying is an issue that.	02:11:13
	Cities all over the state.	02:11:20
	Are grappling with.	02:11:22
	With the.	02:11:24
	Explosion, if you will, of electric vehicles.	02:11:28
	Which?	02:11:31
	Don't fill up on gas so you don't get the gas tax and yet they're like.	02:11:33
	Twice as heavy as a normal car.	02:11:37
	And it's a huge problem for.	02:11:40
	Everyone.	02:11:42
	Every city.	02:11:43
	Umm, I just don't know that.	02:11:47
	This out the contracts between.	02:11:50
	These two entities.	02:11:54
	Provide a solution to that problem.	02:11:56
	I mean, I understand what you're saying, I really do.	02:11:59
	But.	02:12:05
	The agreements are true that every city is dealing with this, but not every city has a port.	02:12:07
	That uses.	02:12:13
	A Main St. as much as our Main Street is being used on a regular basis to offload cargo that comes out of the port.	02:12:15
	So half your half of what you're saying is true, but.	02:12:22
	Yes, Mayor Pro Tem.	02:12:25
	So when was? When was the globus?	02:12:27
	Contract with the Navy.	02:12:32
	Initiated.	02:12:35
	Late 1990s, OK, so in 19 in 1990?	02:12:39
	The Navy.	02:12:49
	Lease that land, right?	02:12:50
	OK.	02:12:53
	Clarify you because there was a.	02:12:54
	Autumn automotive customer over there before Globus. So this activity is actually going on longtime Mazda was over there.	02:12:56
	And then after Mazda Globus came in.	02:13:03
	So this practice has been ongoing.	02:13:06
	Just if I'm not sure where you're going with your question, but it but globus was.	02:13:09
	We can find out. We can get back to you on the exact date of our contracts the customers had over there, but there were previous	02:13:13
	auto customers on there before Globus.	02:13:17
	The reason why I mentioned it.	02:13:22
	It's because none of the contracts, none of the agreements specify sub.	02:13:25
	Contractors.	02:13:29
	That they utilize the roads and.	02:13:31
	They're technically cars that are off.	02:13:35
	Offloaded from the port.	02:13:37
	And it seems like.	02:13:39
	It seems like they kind of wash their hands away with it because they're like, hey, I'm a private contractor.	02:13:42
	Leasing land from the Navy so I don't I don't count.	02:13:47
	But in in reality, they're still using the infrastructure.	02:13:51
	And they're, they're, they're going out other gates.	02:13:55
	Yeah, the revenue following the corridors, the the revenue comes in through the.	02:13:59
	Gross operating revenues and they're quite significant, just to be fair.	02:14:04
	The umm.	02:14:08
	Contracts that the port has with the city are the best in the country. We did some research back when the litigation was going on.	02:14:09
	So 10% of a port's revenue is not the norm.	02:14:14
	For contributions from port cities into communities. And I'm just sharing that we think it's a good contract. Yeah. And I'm just,	02:14:19
	why can't, why can't the poor tell them to use the corridors?	02:14:25
	So we can we can offer them best practices of what roads there are times and I I'd have to work with the Navy and look at this. I	02:14:30
	know that if they use the Victoria Gate.	02:14:35
	That does close at 5:00 PM. So there may be hour issues that they'd have to look at and when they man certain gates and when they	02:14:41
	choose to use what gate, but we'd have to get back to you in that business contract. But I think the point is that we're trying to	02:14:45
	make is that.	02:14:49
	When the Navy, the Navy's tenants aren't governed by these particular agreements, the revenues that the city is receiving are from	02:14:54
	gross operating revenues that are quite significant and have grown quite a bit.	02:15:00
	With the growth of Globus, frankly.	02:15:06
	Yeah, thank you. I think I just had an aha moment. So thank you for that. Clovis is actually like you would.	02:15:09
	Deliver your cars to.	02:15:15
	The BMW you deliver them to.	02:15:18
	The base there.	02:15:21
	Their organization then ships them out. Exactly. OK, so I had. Thank you for that.	02:15:23
	Um, do you have a question? Yes, that would add that they ship them out through Ventura Road to Winami Rd. to Channel Islands Road	02:15:30
	to Victoria to harbor. They go everywhere in all directions.	02:15:35
	Yes. And that's a fairpoint. And I believe there's a lot of trucks that transit the base to to provide other services as well as	02:15:40
	grocery stores and there's a lot of activity.	02:15:45
	So.	02:15:50
	We umm.	02:15:52
	And I've been saying this for several months. I read a book.	02:15:53
	Shared it with a couple persons.	02:15:56
	A Conversations that matter.	02:15:59
	And I think it's important for, for I don't even want to hear the L word. I mean, we just want to have conversations that matter.	02:16:01
	We want to sit down, board to board.	02:16:08
	And have conversations that matter.	02:16:10
	We don't want to wink at each other. We just want to have conversations that matter. And I say that because.	02:16:12
	You're not operating on a 1987 or a 1995 ILW contract, are you?	02:16:19
	No. And you're not operating on a 198795 contract with SEIU. No, you, you negotiate and I'm sure that you negotiate with your	02:16:25
	customers every time you have a major change at the cranes.	02:16:31
	You went from break bulk to containers. Major change in operation.	02:16:38
	And so I think.	02:16:42
	I think what my goal is is like, hey, we want to have a conversation that matters.	02:16:44
	And a lot has changed and we need to be a part of the conversation and maybe we should get away from these.	02:16:48
	Because everyone agrees these are extremely complicated agreements that haven't been updated and our.	02:16:54
	Seemingly outdated and I could go on.	02:16:59
	Because there's other.	02:17:02
	Things that are traveling our roads that we don't get compensated for and I'm hearing.	02:17:03
	Tough, that's what I'm hearing.	02:17:09
	And again, these And so as things change, when you brought cranes in, you had to negotiate.	02:17:11
	Things are changing. And so that's, I think that's what that's what I feel like. I feel like we need to be a part of the	02:17:20
	conversation. Thank you. I think what we're saying is that.	02:17:24
	The compensations there, it's not maybe coming per car, but it's coming through the gross operating revenues.	02:17:29
	At a significant amount of our revenue at 10%, so just.	02:17:36
	Leaving the groundwork there, but OK, we're going to thank you so much. We're going to move on. We're going to move on back to	02:17:41
	what Mayor said, you know?	02:17:44
	That's your perspective.	02:17:47
	Public comments. Do we have any public comments? Yes, we have public comments. First, Joan Tharp.	02:17:52
	Thank you very much by the way.	02:17:58
	Thank you. I look forward to hearing from you. We may still have some other discussions, so.	02:18:00
	Don't go anywhere.	02:18:05
	So I read through the documents a couple of times and.	02:18:07
	Was really quite confused as I think.	02:18:12
	Is showing here in terms of.	02:18:15
	Not so much what is a convoy? I think that's clear now, but what is a truck and are the trucks covered and what gates are they	02:18:19
	coming in and out of because they're coming.	02:18:23
	In and out of everywhere.	02:18:28
	I've almost been hit by 1.	02:18:30
	So I think that.	02:18:32
	The city attorney has her hands full and a long list of homework questions.	02:18:35
	To get clarification on.	02:18:40
	Are all of the trucks that are coming in and out wine me gate?	02:18:43
	Are they covered under the the general operating budget?	02:18:48
	And so the city is getting compensated for that.	02:18:52
	Are the vehicles that are?	02:18:56
	On the trucks.	02:18:58
	Not getting counted because they're part of the Navy base.	02:19:00
	Even though they're coming in and out of the road, so they're impacting the roads.	02:19:06
	So.	02:19:11
	What gate should they be coming out of? What constitutes a truck?	02:19:12
	Are you getting compensated for the all of the trucks or just the car trucks or none of the car trucks?	02:19:16
	Just the cars. I think it's clear that the cars are a separate.	02:19:22
	Carve out. You're right on. So that's what I'm hearing. I was really hoping that I didn't have to get up and say anything because	02:19:26
	I thought I would get clarification from everyone.	02:19:30
	But it just sounds like kind of, yes, more clarification is needed. Thank you, thank you, thank you.	02:19:35
	OK. And then we just have one written public comment.	02:19:43
	City Council regarding question #2 I'm assuming that section refers to vehicle transport trucks.	02:19:46
	For many years I have lived in the winey Meat Beach area South of Wine Me Road and use Ventura Rd. pretty much daily.	02:19:52
	I can say that I currently see vehicle transport trucks both loaded and empty using Ventura Rd. on a semi regular basis.	02:19:59
	Just last week I was driving alongside one loaded with new Hyundai cars from about near City Hall up to around Bard Rd. before I	02:20:07
	passed it and proceeded on north.	02:20:11
	I'm not making a complaint, but just clarifying that they do use Ventura Rd. sometimes.	02:20:16
	Although not what I would consider excessive.	02:20:21
	Thank you. And that was from Jeffrey Scarberry.	02:20:23
	And that concludes public comment.	02:20:25
	There's another comment.	02:20:28
	Sorry, one more coming.	02:20:30
	Jan Burke.	02:20:36
	Well, I was. I too was not going to say anything. I thought I wanted to listen. I wanted to learn.	02:20:41
	And wanted to follow up from our last meeting in December which was very confusing.	02:20:46
	But.	02:20:51
	The conversation.	02:20:53
	I agree with you completely.	02:20:55
	There needs to be a conversation, there needs to be a discussion about where do we go from here?	02:20:57
	Business is not the same.	02:21:01
	That it used to be.	02:21:03
	That's for all of us.	02:21:04
	Life is not the same.	02:21:06
	As it used to be.	02:21:07
	And.	02:21:09
	Being a resident that lives right there near.	02:21:10
	The Winimi gate and having an office that's on Winemi and Arcturus.	02:21:13
	I can, I can cannot tell you how many cars, how many accidents.	02:21:19
	And how many trucks I've seen.	02:21:22
	Coming down that street and recently in the last.	02:21:24
	I'm going to guess.	02:21:29
	Six months maybe, Maybe as much as a year.	02:21:31
	Super heavy equipment coming off the port.	02:21:34
	And that certainly is concerning because?	02:21:37
	That they require escorts and they require extra care going down the streets and so.	02:21:42
	I just think it's time.	02:21:49
	Not to be, not for either party to get defensive or.	02:21:51
	Or argumentative, but to have a discussion. Where are we today?	02:21:55
	What's the right thing to do?	02:21:59
	What's the right relationship that we need with?	02:22:01
	Our city and our port, because right now I've I've tried very hard to have meetings with the port.	02:22:04
	Commissioners, umm.	02:22:10
	And we get, I get the strong arm.	02:22:12
	With the Coalition.	02:22:14
	They will not come to our.	02:22:16
	Our meetings.	02:22:18
	And that's not a good feeling to have.	02:22:19
	And I think that we we as a.	02:22:21
	As neighbors.	02:22:24
	Literally neighbors to the port.	02:22:26
	Want to have a conversation that's meaningful?	02:22:28
	And have a balance in how we approach doing business together.	02:22:32
	And making sure that our community is whole.	02:22:37
	And I really took offense to the relate to the previous council meeting where.	02:22:40
	All of the members, all of the community.	02:22:45
	That came in and.	02:22:48
	Did a cheerleading.	02:22:49
	Conversation with all the great things that the port does.	02:22:53
	Well, that was that was rather embarrassing.	02:22:57
	And unnecessary.	02:23:00
	And I think that, you know, it actually put a bad taste in a lot of our mouths because it was just a little too grandstandy.	02:23:02
	So I would suggest that we really tone it down.	02:23:09
	Get to a better state.	02:23:13
	And really have a serious conversation about where we go from here.	02:23:15
	That concludes public comment.	02:23:22
	Thank you.	02:23:24
	Are there any other any other questions or comments?	02:23:30
	Let me see where we are. Sorry you guys.	02:23:35
	I would just like to make.	02:23:41
	Quick comment.	02:23:43
	Perhaps we could start exploring this way to have conversations that matter and get together and.	02:23:44
	Figure out.	02:23:50
	How to?	02:23:51
	Discuss.	02:23:52
	Difficult things.	02:23:54
	Without.	02:23:56
	Considering any other method, I just think we should talk.	02:23:58
	Mayor Pro Tem.	02:24:03
	Oh, thank you.	02:24:05
	Umm, I really like what Jonathan shared with us. I think you've got.	02:24:07
	The gist of what we're what we're looking at or attempting to look at here.	02:24:11
	And my suggestion as far as where we go from here is to have this.	02:24:16
	Item placed on the agenda for the Port City Committee.	02:24:21
	And let the Port City Committee take it.	02:24:25
	And discuss it.	02:24:28
	And report back, but we need to be very unified and agreed on what it is we're trying to pursue here.	02:24:29
	Because frankly, I don't know that it's the settlement agreements that are going to.	02:24:36
	Resolve the issue that we're talking about here about.	02:24:41
	The weight on our roads from these trucks.	02:24:44
	And the idea that.	02:24:48
	They may not be covered. We might not be covered.	02:24:49
	Cost wise through the operating agreements, we don't know that. So there's there's got to be some.	02:24:52
	Homework done and discussions had, so that would be my recommendation from here on.	02:24:58
	Thank you. I'm mayor Pro Tem.	02:25:03
	Yes, so.	02:25:05
	I guess this all started because of me. So it's all your fault. It's my fault.	02:25:06
	No, but I do want to thank the port coming out here and.	02:25:12
	You know these?	02:25:16
	Being a good neighbor of ours and.	02:25:17
	Clarifying some of these things that we had questions on. So I thank you for that.	02:25:19
	And the conversations.	02:25:25
	My thoughts is wasn't there was.	02:25:28
	This wasn't meant to be hostile or.	02:25:31
	Trying to poke anybody in the eye. We're just trying to get a good understanding on.	02:25:34
	Some of the clarifying questions.	02:25:37
	You know what a vehicle is and.	02:25:40
	You know the definitions.	02:25:42
	There's no clarity in any of the contracts what a vehicle is and what is.	02:25:45
	What is an automobile?	02:25:50
	So the contract kind of it's just kind of vague and it was an understanding between.	02:25:52
	The two parties at that specific time when I get it.	02:25:56
	But again, I want to thank you for coming out and.	02:25:59
	And given us.	02:26:03
	Umm, you know your guys, your take, so thank you.	02:26:05
	Great. Thank you.	02:26:11
	I don't see that there is any other questions. We have before us a recommendation to consider the attached exhibit.	02:26:12
	With responses from Waeneme Harbor, I mean Oxnard Harbor Port, the port.	02:26:18
	To questions from the City Council.	02:26:23
	To the port regarding convoy trucks and to provide direction as appropriate.	02:26:26
	May I have a motion?	02:26:32
	Of some sort? Is there any direction?	02:26:34
	Or anything.	02:26:36
	Their motion.	02:26:38
	Council Member Hernandez.	02:26:40
	Yes, I'd like to move that we.	02:26:42
	Accept this report.	02:26:44
	That we.	02:26:48
	Put the discussion on record and that we recommend that we.	02:26:49
	Approve the city Port Committee to take this issue.	02:26:54
	For further discussion to the next city.	02:26:58
	Board meeting.	02:27:01
	Anyone else?	02:27:05
	I think it's a bit.	02:27:06
	Early in that phase, I think Joan has some things that she needs to do.	02:27:08
	First, before we can even.	02:27:13
	Start talking about that.	02:27:15
	Do you have an amended motion?	02:27:16
	I would say the first part, not the first part of her motion leaving out the Port City Committee. So accept the recommendation of	02:27:19
	staff and and receive the report.	02:27:25
	If I could add to that, so just to be clear that.	02:27:31
	If that were the.	02:27:36
	There wouldn't be any additional staff action.	02:27:38
	At this point because it's not included in the direction.	02:27:41
	I think.	02:27:44
	I'm gonna.	02:27:46
	Suggests. I think there's three possible.	02:27:47
	Paths and they've all sort of been talked about, I think one maybe what Councilmember Perez was.	02:27:50
	Mentioning would be essentially leaving it.	02:27:56
	Like staff to staff to clarify and come back with more.	02:27:59
	Information.	02:28:02
	The other would be the joint committee.	02:28:03
	Working together to clarify.	02:28:05
	It's not technically part of the joint committees assigned tasks.	02:28:07
	Obviously the Council would have the ability to change that, but as of now it's not.	02:28:12
	And then the third would be potentially, obviously we've been talking about a joint meeting between the two boards and so that's	02:28:17
	another.	02:28:20
	Path.	02:28:24
	Did want to just?	02:28:28
	Note that I do think.	02:28:30
	For our.	02:28:33
	Fiduciary duty, so to speak, I think.	02:28:35
	The key question to me is.	02:28:38
	Do I have clarity? Does the city attorney have clarity?	02:28:40
	Obviously, does the Council have clarity, but.	02:28:43
	Do we have clarity in how this contract is supposed to be administered?	02:28:45
	Do I know what I'm supposed to be billing for at this point?	02:28:50
	And I don't think it is clear, I think.	02:28:53
	Joan Tharp really hit the nail on the head and I think was too nice to say. It's about as clear as mud after this conversation.	02:28:56
	There is specifically a question that was asked.	02:29:03
	In our PowerPoint presentation, actually, can you pull that up, Georgiana?	02:29:07
	And.	02:29:12
	We actually asked the question about if the vehicles on trucks aren't counted as vehicles, are they counted under any other	02:29:14
	method?	02:29:18
	And the answer was number. They were deliberately excluded.	02:29:22
	That's not what we're hearing tonight.	02:29:26
	I hope actually what we're hearing tonight is correct.	02:29:28
	But it's part of the problem is right now if we leave this conversation without any further conversation, I don't know if I'm	02:29:31
	supposed to collect.	02:29:34
	Revenue for that?	02:29:38
	For those trucks or not?	02:29:39
	So.	02:29:41
	So I do think.	02:29:42
	I think part of what we talked about was.	02:29:44
	Just that we started out with some questions. I think it escalated. I think we all can have agreed we didn't intend for it to	02:29:46
	escalate and we can kind of take it.	02:29:50
	A step back and go to communication.	02:29:54
	But this would be an example to me of.	02:29:57
	Like I think the question of.	02:29:59
	Are the vehicles on trucks?	02:30:02
	Compensated to the city in some way.	02:30:06
	We should be able to get a clear answer on that. I think one path like mentioned would be staff to staff. I think we could get a	02:30:08
	clear answer on that. But.	02:30:11
	Well, through through any of the three paths, but those are the three paths that the Council can choose.	02:30:15
	So thank you City Manager, for clarifying that and narrowing it down to that one question because.	02:30:20
	I want to make sure that.	02:30:28
	We know what those questions should be.	02:30:30
	And so that staff can walk away and have some clear direction on what they're supposed to research and find out and bring back to	02:30:32
	us.	02:30:36
	Umm, and then we can go from there, so.	02:30:40
	Is that the only question?	02:30:44
	OK. What other questions do we?	02:30:46
	Do we want answered?	02:30:48
	The what the litigation entailed.	02:30:51
	Think city manager.	02:30:53
	I mean, city attorney wanted to go back and look at the litigation and whether the waiver, look at the broad scope of the waiver	02:30:55
	and everything else that that.	02:30:59
	Was taking place at that time so so my question again is like why, why, what, what, what is it that we're looking for and if we	02:31:03
	find what we're looking for, what do you see as the next step because.	02:31:08
	When it comes to these settle agreements.	02:31:15
	We're going to end up back in court. Maybe there's just another way.	02:31:17
	To look at getting what we're trying to achieve here without having to go back to the settlement agreement. So I think the first.	02:31:21
	The first goal.	02:31:29
	Is to do our best to understand.	02:31:31
	That's our first goal, so we're not talking about going back and.	02:31:34
	Finding out what we need to do to litigate, we're not doing any of that.	02:31:38
	I think it's important that we understand.	02:31:41
	You know what are the answers to the questions.	02:31:43
	And the questions could be anything that we talked about this evening.	02:31:46
	I'm sure.	02:31:49
	Our city manager.	02:31:50
	Has.	02:31:52
	Record pretty much of what we've been talking about.	02:31:53
	And so he can do that.	02:31:56
	So that's what I think we need our city manager to do.	02:31:58
	Along with our city attorney.	02:32:01
	Is to go back and look at these answers and then things that came up in our discussion tonight, right, that we need to get answer	02:32:03
	as well. And I think there are some things.	02:32:07
	Yeah, I think.	02:32:11
	A lot of questions can be answered.	02:32:12
	If the city attorney and I bring back a memo.	02:32:14
	Of.	02:32:18
	What items are included in the?	02:32:19
	Gross revenue and the vehicle revenue specifically.	02:32:22
	And I think one of the hard parts is.	02:32:26
	Reading the contract, I think.	02:32:29
	I could read the contract and say, oh, I understand this completely. And then I talked to.	02:32:31
	Joan and she says she has a completely different understanding and that's.	02:32:36
	You know that could be on.	02:32:40
	Just internally and then we we now have another party to have that conversation with.	02:32:41
	So starting with.	02:32:45
	What?	02:32:46
	Looking deeper into what do we actually receive revenue for and coming back with that. And then the question then would be, is	02:32:49
	that what the City Council had understood?	02:32:52
	That they would be receiving.	02:32:56
	And then from there, then that's.	02:32:58
	You know, at this point we're just seeing if.	02:33:00
	That is the case if there's clarity there.	02:33:02
	Great. Can I add a question, Can I add a question? And can we get an answer to the question has to?	02:33:04
	How much of the port revenue?	02:33:10
	Has been spent on road maintenance.	02:33:13
	Since these agreements were put into place.	02:33:17
	We would bring back.	02:33:19
	We would bring back as much as we could.	02:33:21
	Similar to a lot of the conversation is.	02:33:23
	I think the city's finance system has changed four or five times since 1984 and so.	02:33:26
	We we would go back as far as we could and provide that information, yeah. Could we get a cost estimate of what?	02:33:33
	Annual Rd. maintenance.	02:33:39
	On these roads is.	02:33:40
	We could do that. I actually think, I think that would be a good idea to do.	02:33:43
	The question for me would be can we get council direction to do that because it would take some staff time and resources, so I	02:33:48
	just want to make sure that it's something the council wanted us to do.	02:33:53
	Councilmember Gamma.	02:34:00
	Just gonna throw it out there, how do we get to having those conversations?	02:34:02
	Board to board.	02:34:06
	Public conversation conversations where we, you know, get community input.	02:34:09
	I think that's the path forward and.	02:34:14
	And that would even be so bold like.	02:34:17
	Councilmember Hernandez made a really good point.	02:34:20
	We're going to be chewing up staff time trying to figure out things that.	02:34:22
	Two very smart people will look at and say.	02:34:27
	It means different to me than what it means to you.	02:34:30
	Maybe we could chart a path forward. Maybe we could just.	02:34:34
	Let's just moveon.org.	02:34:36
	Maybe we could just.	02:34:38
	Start the long process of trying to redefine our modern day.	02:34:39
	2025 relationship because so much has changed.	02:34:45
	Since 87.	02:34:48
	So in terms of emotion.	02:34:51
	I think we also.	02:34:54
	Need to add the cost side like yeah, can we understand the cost because.	02:34:56
	You know.	02:35:01
	I have a feeling that you know our.	02:35:04
	Well, I recall.	02:35:07
	We used to joke. We say, how do you know you're in Winimi?	02:35:09
	The road turns good.	02:35:12
	On Wyoming Road right now, it looks like a puzzle.	02:35:14
	Because there's so much tar in the cracks.	02:35:18
	On the White and the City of Port Hueneme side.	02:35:21
	And so.	02:35:23
	We've gotten away from having those amazing roads.	02:35:25
	And I think we all could appreciate that if you've been here for a considerable amount of time, so.	02:35:28
	Great. Thank you. Is there a motion?	02:35:34
	So I did have a motion. I don't know if I had a second and then I believe Councilwoman.	02:35:36
	Perez had wanted to amend it. I don't know where we are with that. We were in the middle of her amendment.	02:35:41
	Is there a motion anyone can make? An emotion?	02:35:47
	So do I need to withdraw my original motion?	02:35:50
	No one seconded it so it so if you'd like to make another motion to incorporate everything that City Manager Vegas said.	02:35:53
	So port or I'm sorry, staff to staff.	02:36:03
	Discussion motion to approve staff to staff discussion bringing back clarifications specifically on what the revenues will	02:36:07
	receive. OK, I got it, I got it. I moved that the city manager and the city attorney go back bring us information on the gross of	02:36:14
	vehicle.	02:36:20
	Gross of vehicle revenues.	02:36:27
	The cost?	02:36:29
	What it would cost for?	02:36:31
	Us to repair roads how much has been.	02:36:34
	Spent on the repairing of roads from the funding that we've received from the port.	02:36:38
	And an answer to that question #1.	02:36:43
	With that question #1.	02:36:49
	Question #1.	02:36:51
	Was it #1 about trucks? Were said we're not getting paid for anything on trucks.	02:36:53
	Oh, it's a question two question #2.	02:36:58
	He's yeah, he's.	02:37:04
	He's going to get a response because the response was.	02:37:06
	Different from what they provided tonight.	02:37:08
	So that is my motion. Is there a second?	02:37:10
	2nd.	02:37:13
	Great.	02:37:15
	Is there any other discussion? I think we were discussed.	02:37:17
	Now I forgot your name.	02:37:23
	Madam Clerk, please take a vote, whoever you are. All in favor, aye. All opposed.	02:37:24
	Hearing none, motion passes unanimously.	02:37:32
	Thank you. Thank you. And again, thank you to the port for coming out and helping us answer some of those questions questions. We	02:37:34
	appreciate you so much.	02:37:39
	We're looking forward to being able to continue to communicate with you.	02:37:43
	Thank you so much.	02:37:46
	OK.	02:37:49
	We are going to move on to agenda #9, which is consideration of Community benefit fund allocations for fiscal year.	02:37:50
	202526 funding cycle.	02:37:59
	Will staff please present the report?	02:38:02
	Sorry, so I will introduce Deputy City Manager Charles Peretz to provide the report, Mr. Perez said.	02:38:09
	Taking the applications through the Citizens Advisory Commission meeting last week. And he will be.	02:38:16
	Providing a presentation.	02:38:21
	Good evening, Mayor.	02:38:29
	City Council members. Member of the public. City staff.	02:38:31
	This item does pertain to a review of.	02:38:34
	Community Benefit Fund applications.	02:38:38
	Mayor Pro Tem, are we good to proceed?	02:38:42
	Yes.	02:38:45
	I didn't know Mayor just needed a minute.	02:38:46
	So, by way of brief background, the Community Benefit Fund was created as part of.	02:38:50
	The aforementioned 2015 agreement.	02:38:55
	Between the port and the city.	02:38:58
	The agreement specifies that in each year that the port's gross operating revenues exceed $13 million.	02:38:59
	A $100,000 contribution will be made to a special fund.	02:39:05
	Those funds are earmarked for projects that would benefit the city, the port.	02:39:10
	And the communities they serve.	02:39:13
	The amounts are subject to increase each year by the May Consumer Price Index.	02:39:16
	And the agreement outlines 4 specific categories.	02:39:21
	Public benefit.	02:39:24
	That includes shoreline protection, community development.	02:39:26
	Opportunistic endeavors.	02:39:29
	And other projects that are agreed to mutually by both parties.	02:39:31
	The agreement also establishes a joint committee consisting of three representatives from each agency.	02:39:36
	To review ideas for potential funding.	02:39:41
	The committee works to achieve a consensus on how the funds are to be spent.	02:39:44
	But final approval rests with both the City Council and the Board of Harbor Commissioners.	02:39:48
	In addition to 3rd party requests, the Community Benefit Fund has been used to support various city and port initiated projects.	02:39:57
	That includes joint advocacy trips to Washington, DC, the Banana and Wine Me Beach festivals.	02:40:05
	And the Community 5K race and associated health and Wellness fair.	02:40:11
	While no funding is proposed this year for the advocacy trip due to the postponement of last year's trip.	02:40:16
	Staff is recommending that $10,000 be allocated.	02:40:22
	For each of the two festivals and the same amount for the community 5K race.	02:40:25
	So this year we embarked on a new process that the Council approved last year.	02:40:36
	That process allows for a grant like review.	02:40:42
	Applications that are submitted by third parties.	02:40:46
	This year being the first year of the new process.	02:40:49
	Began with a call for projects and announcement of the application on January 30th.	02:40:53
	16 applications were received by the March 15th deadline, and two additional applications followed shortly thereafter.	02:40:59
	All applications are summarized in the report and are included.	02:41:07
	Included as attachments.	02:41:10
	That information was reviewed by the Citizen Advisory Commission last Monday.	02:41:13
	And their action grouped them into 3 levels of priority.	02:41:18
	With this item, Council is asked to review the applications.	02:41:23
	Consider the recommendation from the Commission.	02:41:27
	And provide guidance to the representatives of the City Port Joint Committee.	02:41:29
	I should make clear.	02:41:34
	That this process that was established last year through Council action.	02:41:36
	Assists the city in its review.	02:41:40
	Of the projects that are proposed for allocation.	02:41:43
	And is separate from any port consideration and ultimate decision by the City Council and Board of Harbor Commissioners.	02:41:45
	The exact amount of funds will be known after the May CIP is released, but at this time we're estimating that.	02:41:53
	Approximately $135,000 would be available.	02:41:59
	For funding in the next funding cycle.	02:42:02
	So as noted, the Commission assigned 3 different project.	02:42:08
	A priority, excuse me, categories.	02:42:12
	Seven are assigned, as shown on the screen, to priority level 1, meaning that they are recommended to receive top consideration	02:42:15
	for funding in the upcoming cycle.	02:42:19
	Projects in this category are grouped together without any internal ranking within the category.	02:42:25
	And as noted at the bottom of the slide, one of the priority one projects that was identified by CAC.	02:42:30
	Was an application from the.	02:42:36
	Police Department to support a drone program.	02:42:37
	Staff recommends deferring consideration on that request until additional details are made available.	02:42:40
	As noted on the slide, the total cost, total estimated cost for the seven priority one projects along with the proposed city and	02:42:47
	port events.	02:42:51
	Is approximately $90,000.	02:42:55
	While that amount is below the anticipated funding available.	02:42:57
	We do expect that the port will have its own list of projects, so it's not necessary to.	02:43:01
	Assigned projects to use all of the.	02:43:06
	Funds anticipated to be available.	02:43:09
	The Commission also established a.	02:43:15
	Short list of priority Level 2 projects. There were three included there.	02:43:18
	As shown on the screen.	02:43:23
	Those are.	02:43:25
	Suggested to be funded if sufficient funds allow.	02:43:27
	And they are.	02:43:30
	Listed in priority order.	02:43:32
	So in summary, the recommendation.	02:43:39
	For this item.	02:43:42
	He's almost finished. Let him do the summary.	02:43:44
	So in summary, the recommendation is for the City Council to review the applications that were received.	02:43:48
	Review the.	02:43:55
	Proposed allocations for city and port initiated projects.	02:43:56
	Consider the Citizen Advisory Commission's advisory recommendation.	02:43:59
	And provide guidance to the city's representatives on the City Port Joint Committee.	02:44:03
	That concludes the presentation. I'm available for questions.	02:44:08
	Councilmember Gama.	02:44:11
	Was $10,000 requested on the VFWII?	02:44:13
	Was told it was a different amount.	02:44:19
	The application for the VFW for the roof repair.	02:44:24
	Yes, yes, it was $10,000.	02:44:27
	OK, the application is in the packet. I don't I believe that that is the amount cited in the actual application.	02:44:32
	So is there a metric to like?	02:44:49
	Rate the community benefit.	02:44:52
	That some method.	02:44:56
	I mean you got priority 1-2 and three. I guess that's the method.	02:44:59
	Yeah. So this again was the first year that we used the new process.	02:45:03
	And the metric that was used was really the.	02:45:07
	Evaluation that was conducted by the Citizen Advisory Commission.	02:45:10
	I will say that excuse me at the beginning of their discussion.	02:45:15
	Two points that they made was there wanted to be a focus on Winimi.	02:45:19
	Specifically, organizations that provide projects or programs that benefit.	02:45:24
	Locally here in Winimi.	02:45:28
	And then the second focus of the Commission was to focus on.	02:45:30
	Organizations that provide the benefit to the greatest number of people.	02:45:34
	So those were two things that were said at the outset of their deliberations.	02:45:38
	Councilmember Fernandez, I have a question and this is for the port. Maybe Kristen, you can answer this question.	02:45:45
	So in your introduction.	02:45:51
	Charles, you mentioned that the purpose of the Community Benefit Fund was to serve.	02:45:54
	Those communities.	02:45:59
	Of determine the communities.	02:46:03
	From that.	02:46:06
	Both the port and the city of Waeneme.	02:46:08
	Recognize.	02:46:11
	All within their jurisdiction. So so.	02:46:12
	Does that mean that?	02:46:14
	It's only Port Hueneme.	02:46:16
	How? What's your definition of community? So the.	02:46:21
	Settlement agreement spells out, as Charles gracefully put out in his PowerPoint, sort of the categorical investments that could	02:46:25
	be made with CBF funding, but the.	02:46:29
	Real spirit of it was to bring the two bodies together to look at projects.	02:46:33
	Of.	02:46:38
	Mutual benefit.	02:46:39
	For and and create that sense of collaboration around doing things. So that's why we came up with some of the ideas like murals	02:46:41
	and statues and how kind of those out-of-the-box projects that wouldn't really get funded normally in the general fund, but bring	02:46:45
	the two bodies together.	02:46:50
	To really.	02:46:54
	Create that collaborative spirit and how we can work on some good things together. I think it that was sort of the community that	02:46:56
	was referenced in these contracts. That's the reason. That's helpful. Yeah. The reason I asked, there's been a kind of unofficial	02:47:01
	policy about this funding that it go to Winnemi residents only.	02:47:07
	And then we get applicants who are from.	02:47:12
	Have an Oxnard address and then we go through a process of trying to.	02:47:16
	Discover whether or not they're serving the Winemi community.	02:47:22
	So when we don't really have a mechanism for evaluating that and I think when we get to the equine.	02:47:26
	Organization on that's number one on here that went and I watched the CAC committee meeting so.	02:47:34
	I understand the process that they used in breaking it down into priority 1-2 and three. They were just doing it for the ease of.	02:47:40
	Discussion so make it easy for us to.	02:47:48
	To decide on what we wanted to move forward, but the equine went through very quickly. Umm.	02:47:52
	There I heard another qualifier that let's do things that are new and innovative.	02:47:57
	So that was a qualifying criteria that I heard come from the CAC.	02:48:02
	So.	02:48:09
	They had to be Winimi residents.	02:48:11
	Or serve Winimi residents.	02:48:13
	We wanted new.	02:48:16
	Innovative.	02:48:17
	Programs. I think that's how the equine got in there.	02:48:18
	And then there were some other qualifying.	02:48:21
	Statements that were made about.	02:48:24
	Structural improvements, I think.	02:48:28
	Whether or not there was a precedent for structural improvements and that had to do with the.	02:48:31
	The VFW.	02:48:36
	Councilmember, to your question, I'll just and I know that we.	02:48:38
	Spoke extensively about.	02:48:42
	Agreement language and the interpretation thereof.	02:48:43
	To your question, I'll just cite section 9 of the agreement.	02:48:46
	To the question of Community, states the following in reference to what the Community Benefit Fund is to be used from.	02:48:50
	It says the funds which may be spent on approved projects that benefit both the city.	02:48:56
	And district and the communities they serve. So that's how the.	02:49:01
	That's how it's defined in the agreement.	02:49:04
	So I guess that my question was for.	02:49:06
	For Kristen, it's like, how do they define communities?	02:49:08
	We don't need to split that here tonight.	02:49:11
	Be a nice cop.	02:49:14
	Topic of conversation.	02:49:15
	Well, I think if we're going to continue to use it for, you know, as criteria for determining funding, I think that we need to get	02:49:18
	it.	02:49:21
	Clear.	02:49:25
	If I may.	02:49:28
	I agonize every time we go to community.	02:49:32
	Benefit fund negotiations.	02:49:35
	And I agonize because.	02:49:38
	How could you, you know, not support?	02:49:40
	Equine.	02:49:43
	And then I would say, well, are they going to do it in wine? Me.	02:49:45
	Are they going to do it at the beach? Are they going to do it in Miranda Park? Where are they going to do it?	02:49:48
	You know, and so I have a lot of questions.	02:49:52
	Yeah, so.	02:49:57
	I get it, but again.	02:50:01
	Is it in our community?	02:50:03
	You know.	02:50:04
	OK.	02:50:06
	But again, but oh, do we have somebody a great see, this is exactly what we need.	02:50:08
	Thank you so much for coming.	02:50:15
	I mean, I would love when I first saw it, I thought, oh wow, this is going to be cooler. Going to do it at the beach. You have a	02:50:19
	ramp, No.	02:50:22
	No, I wish we could do it at the beach, but there's no horseback riding a lot on our beach here. Thank you, City Council. I'm Kate	02:50:25
	Rodriguez. I am the.	02:50:29
	Director of Equine Empowerment Foundation. And yes, our physical address is an Oxnard rocking our ranch on 2797 E Pleasant Valley	02:50:32
	Rd.	02:50:36
	A hop, skip and a jump from here. Literally a lot of the residents or a lot of my clients that we have are waiting the residents.	02:50:40
	So we do serve.	02:50:44
	A good portion of our clients are waiting residents and.	02:50:47
	Right now we have a therapeutic writing program.	02:50:51
	So we serve children and adults with disabilities. We are very limited.	02:50:54
	To being only able to serve people that are able to mount from a traditional ramp up into the saddle.	02:50:58
	We have a lot of. I've had not a lot, but several.	02:51:04
	Clients interested in writing that are in wheelchairs that are not able to.	02:51:08
	Mount with the traditional mounting ramp and as we expand our programs, I want to.	02:51:11
	Expand into doing equine psychotherapy, which is.	02:51:15
	And then also adoptive writing for veterans as well, which we have a lot of.	02:51:19
	You know, veterans here in Winini that could definitely benefit from our program, so.	02:51:24
	It would definitely serve residents of Winini, even though our physical address is in Oxnard. But I am also a Port Winey resident	02:51:29
	so.	02:51:31
	Yes, go ahead.	02:51:35
	Council Member Hernandez So are you attached to the thrift store that raises money for Equine?	02:51:37
	Therapy no here in Y Nimi that is Reigns of Hope and they are located out in Ohio are actually Santa Paula now and they only do	02:51:44
	Equin assisted psychotherapy. They do not do therapeutic and adaptive writing. Thank you.	02:51:49
	Anyone else? Do you have any questions? I have a question it.	02:51:56
	There was a category that says nonprofit status.	02:51:59
	What? What's?	02:52:03
	What does CBF the?	02:52:05
	Define with that.	02:52:06
	So the.	02:52:09
	The CBF agreement does not.	02:52:10
	Specify uh.	02:52:13
	That monies or applicants for monies need to be nonprofit.	02:52:15
	The inclusion of that as a category or an article of information for the Council's review.	02:52:20
	Was born from the process that we went through last year. There was discussion about a focus on providing funds to nonprofits. So	02:52:26
	it's not a necessarily.	02:52:30
	A requirement, A requirement or a metric, or I'm sorry, it's not a requirement, is a metric that's included for consideration as	02:52:36
	such requests are reviewed.	02:52:40
	Thank you.	02:52:45
	Thank you for staying up.	02:52:46
	I'm little questions in my mind about safety and how do you when you put somebody who may have lost the use of their legs on a	02:52:50
	horse?	02:52:54
	How do you safely secure them and how do you manage that?	02:52:58
	Yeah, I'm not. Good question. So we have volunteers that volunteer with our organization that can provide physical support in the	02:53:02
	saddle.	02:53:06
	For writers so we can provide physical support on the legs to help balance them in the saddle. We always have sidewalkers with our	02:53:10
	riders, especially riders with disabilities.	02:53:14
	Just to make sure that they're, you know, riding in a safe environment, the horse is always on a lead line with someone else.	02:53:18
	And then if we're mounting, you know, from a wheelchair into the saddle.	02:53:23
	The safest way is definitely on the mounting ramp, so there is side protection with the rail on the one side and then the opening	02:53:27
	on the other side for the horse to come in.	02:53:31
	How does the horse qualify to be with your group?	02:53:35
	They have to have the right temperament. Not every horse has the right temperament, so we carefully select our horses that are	02:53:38
	being used for therapeutic work. They have to have the right demeanor.	02:53:42
	They cannot.	02:53:47
	Some of most of our horses are usually older bomb proof. They've been there, done that.	02:53:48
	Former police horses or former former hurried horses? Barrel racing horses.	02:53:53
	Things of that nature.	02:53:58
	That they've done previously.	02:54:00
	To provide them, you know, the experience that they need to be able to work with.	02:54:02
	People and remain calm.	02:54:05
	Thank you. Any other questions?	02:54:08
	If not, thank you so much. Thank you.	02:54:10
	You all want to move to next.	02:54:12
	What process would you like to use?	02:54:18
	Are we? Are we?	02:54:21
	Go ahead, Madam Mayor, if you're done with questions, that ain't if you wanted to. Thank you so much. Anymore questions?	02:54:23
	Thank you public comments.	02:54:29
	Thomas, Viola.	02:54:31
	Thank you, everyone. Thank you. Thank you, Mayor Pro Tem Lopez.	02:54:43
	Mayor McQueen Lejeune and the City Council.	02:54:47
	Thank you, Mr. Vega.	02:54:51
	Hi.	02:54:52
	I actually was in high school in 1987 too, by the way.	02:54:55
	I was I was a sophomore in high school.	02:54:58
	Just so I throw that out there.	02:55:01
	So originally I was going to come up here because there was one at one of those items that was.	02:55:03
	So first of all, I want to explain I'm not here as the VFW, I'm not here representing reach, I'm not here representing.	02:55:08
	Shall harbor. I'm just representing me.	02:55:14
	One of the items that were on there really irritated me, so I was going to come in and comment, but that's been taken off the.	02:55:16
	The table, so I'm not even going to worry about it.	02:55:24
	As far as what Councilman Gama was saying, the VFW did I put in the request for $10,000.	02:55:27
	Because my understanding is what that was the limit.	02:55:35
	Was 10,000.	02:55:38
	And we actually it's going to would cost a VFW $120,000 for a new roof.	02:55:39
	We don't need a new roof. What we need about $20,000 or repairs.	02:55:45
	And as far and I don't even need to go into the whole what the VFW is all about, you all know.	02:55:49
	Everybody knows.	02:55:55
	So, umm.	02:55:56
	I'm gonna leave, just kind of leave it at that. My understanding it was that was also part of this was it was a community type of	02:55:58
	thing. It was for the community.	02:56:02
	And though.	02:56:06
	Nate's Place is a great organization organization. It is in the outside, outside of the.	02:56:07
	The city limits, even though it does help a lot.	02:56:13
	So I was going to come and bring and and give you guys a hard time about something else, but I don't need to do that anymore	02:56:17
	because that's actually a mute point at the moment, so.	02:56:21
	Thank you.	02:56:25
	Great. Thank you.	02:56:26
	Any other public comments? We just have one written public comment.	02:56:28
	My name is Isaac Montes. I am a senior at Pacifica High School. I'm writing to ask for your support in funding.	02:56:31
	Psycho Club initiative through the Community Benefit Fund allocations.	02:56:38
	Our mission is to inspire and empower our community to reduce waste.	02:56:42
	Promote environmental responsibility and protect our planet through education, advocacy, and hands on recycling efforts.	02:56:46
	We are committed to inclusivity, ensuring that individuals of all abilities, backgrounds, and experiences can actively participate	02:56:52
	in creating a cleaner, greener, and more equitable future for generations to come.	02:56:58
	The Try and Recycle Club at Pacifica High School is a student LED initiative dedicated to environmental stewardship.	02:57:04
	Vocational training and community service with a strong emphasis on inclusivity.	02:57:10
	Established in 2001 as an Associated Student Body ASB Club, we have created and maintained A flourishing school wide recycling	02:57:15
	program.	02:57:19
	Fostering a culture of responsibility, accessibility, accessibility and environmental awareness among students.	02:57:23
	Our club is unique in that it is led by and designed for special education students with extensive support needs, including	02:57:28
	individuals with autism, Down syndrome, orthopedic and medical disabilities.	02:57:34
	We believe that everyone, regardless of ability, deserves the opportunity to contribute to their community.	02:57:40
	Develop life skills and make a positive environmental impact.	02:57:45
	We are lively, respectful, loving and hard working, proving that ability is never a barrier to making a difference.	02:57:48
	We are planning to use Community benefit funds to gain traditional ecological knowledge from local native cultural bearers.	02:57:55
	We plan to.	02:58:02
	Learn how our Port Hueneme Ocean is honored, cared for, and preserved.	02:58:03
	We will use the knowledge we learned to share with our peers and community.	02:58:07
	Please consider and support our initiative. Isaac Montes, Recycle Club Member, Pacifica High School.	02:58:11
	And that concludes public comment.	02:58:16
	Great. Thank you. Can you say how much that was again?	02:58:17
	Is there a dollar amount?	02:58:22
	Charles will hopefully look it up for me. Can you bring up that one? 5000 to 7500, their applicant #17?	02:58:24
	If I may.	02:58:35
	So let's process. So we're not going to do any voting.	02:58:37
	Right now, because we may get down the list and find something else, we want to move around, so let's just take them one at a	02:58:41
	time.	02:58:45
	And then after we take them one at a time, maybe we'll come back.	02:58:48
	OK. Does that sound like yeah, can we bring them up on this?	02:58:53
	May I make a comment on the last one we were just talking about?	02:58:59
	The public comment that we just received.	02:59:02
	What number is that?	02:59:06
	17.	02:59:09
	OK. So just to be clear, that's.	02:59:11
	That's not a ranking system, that's 17.	02:59:13
	So they're only ranked by priority by priority group.	02:59:17
	Group 123, but within the groups they're not ranked.	02:59:22
	OK, so.	02:59:26
	I'm a little.	02:59:28
	To have some experience and I do know that.	02:59:30
	The special Ed programs at Oxnard Union High School District, they all manage the recycling on the on the campuses, I believe.	02:59:34
	So they already have an established program where they.	02:59:43
	Pull all the bottles out of the.	02:59:46
	The recyclables and it's really nice for them.	02:59:48
	So I'm wondering if this is kind of some planting?	02:59:50
	Yeah, existing budgets. And again, I don't know if it's the right time to.	02:59:54
	Let's hold that. That's that's priority three. So let's go over to priority ones.	02:59:59
	And then we'll make our way. If we need to go down that far, we'll make our way that far.	03:00:04
	OK. Then another question or have we already?	03:00:10
	Do we have?	03:00:13
	CBF funding.	03:00:15
	City port initiatives like.	03:00:16
	Banana Festival.	03:00:20
	Health, Wellness, are those already in? Did we already approve that for five years or so?	03:00:21
	Where this is the start of this year S process. So nothing is technically in until the.	03:00:27
	Recommends it and then the joint committee agrees on it essentially.	03:00:35
	But what we tried to how we tried to show that is that.	03:00:39
	These priority one applications here add up to.	03:00:42
	55 to 59,000 because a couple.	03:00:46
	The reason why it's arranged is because a couple applied for a range.	03:00:49
	So as much as 59,000 and then what we show below that is with the 30,000 that we recommend of.	03:00:53
	Beach Fest, Banana Fest and.	03:01:00
	5K slash health and Wellness fair that would take the total of priority one plus those 3 initiatives to 89,934. Can we all agree	03:01:05
	that?	03:01:10
	Banana Fest, Winnie Beach Fest, Annual Health and Wellness 5K. Can we all agree that?	03:01:16
	Let's move on those.	03:01:21
	Because those seem to me like no brainers like those. Those are community, community, community.	03:01:25
	Let's not do that right now, but we all know that, you know those have been on the list.	03:01:32
	Yeah, but but we always we've gone started a process.	03:01:39
	And so let's just kind of go through the process.	03:01:43
	OK, so #2.	03:01:45
	Is reach utility boxes? If anybody If no one has a question, I do have a question.	03:01:47
	City Manager, can you help us?	03:01:54
	Because this has been a item on our agenda.	03:01:56
	And there has already been some discussion about.	03:02:00
	Cost.	03:02:03
	This would was going to be paid for. Can you tell us what that was?	03:02:05
	Because I was surprised, I think, to see it on the list.	03:02:10
	Yeah, I think I understand the surprise. I think that as we talked about sort of separating from reach and having reached stand on	03:02:12
	its own.	03:02:16
	And reach to their own fundraising. I think that.	03:02:20
	At some point, I don't remember.	03:02:24
	I don't think.	03:02:26
	It was ever like stated in writing, but I think in some of the conversation with.	03:02:28
	With reach when we.	03:02:33
	When the Council was talking that through.	03:02:35
	I think one of the ideas was that these projects would be fundraised.	03:02:37
	For and paid for.	03:02:40
	So.	03:02:41
	Technically, when we opened up the application process, anybody could apply for it, but that's something that the council may want	03:02:45
	to consider is a.	03:02:48
	Is whether?	03:02:52
	You know, again, just with.	03:02:53
	That ongoing conversation of trying to separate and be.	03:02:55
	Separate from reach and how?	03:02:59
	Close.	03:03:02
	Being and how much we end up sponsoring the activities.	03:03:03
	Up until now, since that separation, we've essentially like waived fees for fundraisers and things like that. This would be the	03:03:08
	first time that then we.	03:03:11
	We have funding going to to reach again so.	03:03:15
	So that's, that's a conversation.	03:03:18
	For the Council to consider.	03:03:22
	Great. And I do see they submitted 3.	03:03:24
	Applications so.	03:03:27
	I know there are in the other priority areas. Anybody have any questions about #2 I'm good with it.	03:03:29
	Anyone.	03:03:34
	No. OK, let's move on to #3.	03:03:35
	Boys and Girls Club.	03:03:39
	Of Oxnard and Port Hueneme.	03:03:41
	And it's for you guys. See it $10,000.	03:03:45
	Any any questions?	03:03:48
	And did I read that this was the youth?	03:03:51
	The umm.	03:03:55
	For the.	03:03:57
	Really did think to the teen center. Teen Center enabling field trips and supplies in support of the Winim 18 Center.	03:03:58
	So no, no, no identified trips.	03:04:05
	I don't believe there were any specifics. I think it was. It was pretty vague, yeah.	03:04:09
	It listed a whole bunch of things, but.	03:04:15
	It was just.	03:04:18
	Kind of already.	03:04:21
	Already.	03:04:23
	Have.	03:04:24
	And this is a new process, so.	03:04:26
	You know, just a couple of thoughts would be 1 is.	03:04:29
	The council could identify requests for additional information.	03:04:32
	Or, like you know, some.	03:04:36
	Specific questions that.	03:04:39
	You'd want us to go back and ask each group that.	03:04:40
	It's a new process so we could still customize it. We just started with the standard application.	03:04:44
	Yeah, and I and I do recall having a conversation about the Boys and Girls Club of Greater Oxnard in Port Hueneme.	03:04:49
	And I think vaguely I vaguely remember the conversation being around.	03:04:57
	Do we know if the funding will?	03:05:02
	Be in support of our Port wine me Boys and Girls Club or would it go to Oxnard Boys and Girls Club? So that's just a.	03:05:05
	It would go to the wine.	03:05:14
	So I do have a question.	03:05:16
	Yeah, so.	03:05:18
	Just in general, will we be asking the nonprofits to report back on what they actually spend the money on?	03:05:21
	Is there going to be any kind of?	03:05:31
	And accounting or measurement? Yeah. What what we are accomplishments, yeah. What we were planning to recommend to the council	03:05:34
	would be doing an annual report.	03:05:38
	You know, after, towards the end of the year, before next year's funding and essentially.	03:05:45
	The group would.	03:05:50
	Be notified ahead of time that they need to provide an annual report to be eligible for future year funding. So yeah, especially	03:05:51
	for repeat.	03:05:55
	You know, people who are coming back, repeat, return.	03:05:58
	Could it be possible?	03:06:05
	That each council member goes through this list.	03:06:07
	And if there's something that you do not want to support, you're right, no.	03:06:11
	And then we could.	03:06:16
	Collect the list and.	03:06:18
	Have a tabulation that we could come back to that's not very transparent.	03:06:20
	And I wouldn't support that.	03:06:24
	Well, I'll put my name on mine.	03:06:25
	Yeah, no, I'd prefer to have the discussion out.	03:06:27
	Everybody could hear what OK, then I would like to move 12 and 13.	03:06:31
	Not there yet. We're not there yet. We'll get there. We really want to get there. Any other questions for Boys and Girls Club?	03:06:36
	OK #4 why do me a high school robotics? I'm good with that.	03:06:43
	Public, OK.	03:06:50
	No, no comments.	03:06:58
	No comments at all.	03:07:00
	#5 real guppy.	03:07:05
	I'm good comments.	03:07:07
	Is there any other funding that goes to them?	03:07:11
	Not from the city.	03:07:17
	OK, they have other sources of other sources.	03:07:19
	It's like they're double, triple, quadruple dipping.	03:07:22
	No.	03:07:25
	No, I mean they.	03:07:26
	Not at all. I mean Kevin Brandon, if I may.	03:07:27
	He's not even a paid Edie for that and eventually, I hope eventually he's able to do that.	03:07:31
	But.	03:07:38
	Yeah, no, they're very exciting. The the probation department stepped up big time.	03:07:40
	So now they're really working with troubled kids and probation and stuff. I was out with them on the pier. But yeah, they're	03:07:45
	they're really.	03:07:48
	Expanded. I do believe Kevin has paid though.	03:07:51
	OK. Thank you.	03:07:54
	OK, any other any other comments?	03:07:56
	OK.	03:08:00
	OK, Police, OK Police Department is.	03:08:01
	One was pulled, so going to set #7 no, that, that's a different that it was not pulled.	03:08:04
	The police Explorers, we're skipping to the Explorers.	03:08:11
	We're talking about #2.	03:08:19
	Support when you Police Department. Oh, OK, I'm looking at the slide. Sorry, OK #7 Port Rainini police.	03:08:20
	Well, I have a question regarding that because aren't we giving them the proceeds from the Wine Amy Beach Festival now?	03:08:29
	Aren't they earning? They're getting.	03:08:36
	Yes, basically the Wine Amy Beach festival is.	03:08:38
	For the explorers now the explorers that we've partnered with the explorers where they.	03:08:41
	Are able to use the beach festival as a fundraiser, so they do receive revenues from.	03:08:46
	From.	03:08:52
	Items related to the Beach Festival.	03:08:53
	Any comments?	03:08:58
	OK, never mind.	03:09:02
	No, no, it's OK. It's OK.	03:09:03
	We just conflict of interest.	03:09:05
	Comment but that's OK.	03:09:07
	I don't receive any money.	03:09:12
	It's OK, no comment.	03:09:15
	Let's move on to.	03:09:18
	Here which is sorry.	03:09:20
	We'll move on to #8 which is.	03:09:23
	Nate's Place Wellness and Recovery Center.	03:09:26
	Comments please.	03:09:29
	I think this is a great thing to support. I'm really pleased with what they do.	03:09:34
	And how they do it.	03:09:40
	And hopefully they'll be able to find a new place.	03:09:42
	Any other comments?	03:09:48
	And so they do have a scale here.	03:09:51
	For their funding requests.	03:09:53
	I would just.	03:09:55
	If I could.	03:09:56
	Suggest suggest 10,000 for Nate's place.	03:09:58
	I agree with that.	03:10:02
	OK.	03:10:03
	So.	03:10:06
	Move on to.	03:10:09
	So that's the priority one.	03:10:11
	So you you all want to just keep going? Let's go down the list. OK, great.	03:10:14
	#9 on the sheet here is the animal.	03:10:17
	Theater production.	03:10:22
	And so.	03:10:25
	Can I comment on that?	03:10:27
	Yeah, so.	03:10:29
	There's more information in the application Animal Theater.	03:10:31
	Productions.	03:10:35
	Put together their professional production company, they put together Los Braceros.	03:10:38
	Mariachi Girl.	03:10:43
	And they were going to do mariachi girl here in Winimi.	03:10:45
	At the.	03:10:48
	Ox at the Port Hueneme Pavilion. But for some reason the pavilion.	03:10:52
	Was not available to them, so they are.	03:10:56
	Proposing.	03:10:58
	New production called I Mighty I Chihuahua.	03:11:00
	And the concept behind this was to it's going to cost way more than $5000.	03:11:05
	But the production was to be.	03:11:13
	Focus strictly on why Nimi residents there would be.	03:11:15
	Two showings.	03:11:19
	1A matinee and one evening showing.	03:11:21
	The idea was both showing would be free to win Amy residents.	03:11:25
	So that's still the plan. I just wanted to, you know.	03:11:30
	I think that.	03:11:35
	This would be a good cultural event for the city.	03:11:37
	I think it's fine at priority level 2. I would like to see it bumped up to priority one.	03:11:40
	If possible, if there's money available, because it's such a great production and it just doesn't serve the Hispanic community.	03:11:47
	It serves everybody who's who loves music.	03:11:55
	Who loves performing arts?	03:11:59
	And culture, so it has a wide appeal.	03:12:01
	To the community throughout.	03:12:05
	So we want to talk about conflict of interest. Did they not recently give you an award?	03:12:07
	No they did not and I recently awarded with something by that.	03:12:12
	I got some flowers in a plaque but it was not from the organization animal.	03:12:21
	OK, let's move on.	03:12:31
	Who's who's? I'm trying to find it. I can't find it. Is there a page number?	03:12:33
	I want to look at the application page 15 of 68.	03:12:37
	15 of 68.	03:12:43
	And the footer says page 15 of 68.	03:12:46
	There's a lot of things on the foot.	03:12:50
	Council member, as you're looking that up, I'll just note the original application was for a different production.	03:12:53
	So there were subsequent communication with the applicant.	03:12:58
	As Councilmember Hernandez indicated.	03:13:01
	The proposal is now for a different production I Chihuahua that would.	03:13:03
	Happens sometime in the fall of this calendar year.	03:13:07
	So the application, if you're looking for that, won't have the most current information.	03:13:11
	So is that I have a question there?	03:13:22
	So the process is such that if there's money.	03:13:24
	Available.	03:13:29
	Items under priority level 2 will be bumped up to level 1.	03:13:31
	Is that is that the plan?	03:13:36
	I think it's it's up to the council to determine how to proceed.	03:13:40
	The we had direction to put together an application process. So we we did that. We took it through the CAC, which I believe we	03:13:45
	also had direction to go through CAC.	03:13:49
	They prioritize them in priority 123.	03:13:54
	When we looked and saw that priority one was about $89,000.	03:13:57
	I think we ended up recommending in the report that it might be a good starting point to just start with priority one.	03:14:02
	Because remember that.	03:14:08
	There's still a process from here and it goes to the joint committee and and usually comes back and forth a couple of times, so.	03:14:09
	So there will be.	03:14:16
	I don't, I think today.	03:14:18
	Isn't intended to be a.	03:14:20
	Ending point. It's a starting point for the process.	03:14:22
	Obviously the council could say, well, we want to try to get priority one and priority 2IN and that would be $109,000.	03:14:26
	Of the $130,000 available and then we'd work with the.	03:14:33
	The port.	03:14:36
	I think the question then would just be clarification our direction from the Council on which items.	03:14:37
	You know are the highest priority ones to the council so that if items then fall off because we go over that $130,000 total.	03:14:44
	We know which items are the most important to advocate for, right? And I think it's important at least to go through priority to.	03:14:53
	Because we may find that.	03:15:01
	This is So what we are looking at here is the input from the advisory committee.	03:15:03
	Which might not be our decision.	03:15:09
	Right. So I think it's important for us to go through that and just to kind of.	03:15:11
	OK, the reason I asked, I guess I should have said why I'm asking this so we could avoid all this extra discussion, is because do	03:15:16
	I need to ask that it be bumped up now to?	03:15:21
	Priority level 1. Do I need to ask the council to do that if it's not automatically going to happen?	03:15:28
	Based on the availability of money.	03:15:34
	Yeah. So that'd be that'd be one good process forward would be give us what the councils priority one is now. So if there's	03:15:36
	something on one of the lower priorities that you want on level 1, tell us that. If there's something on level one that isn't	03:15:41
	level 1, tell us that. OK, let's just go through them all and then I'm not sure we can make a decision until we go through all.	03:15:46
	Yeah, let's go ahead and go through all of them. That's fine.	03:15:51
	Councilmember, I thought we were discussing.	03:15:56
	A Nemo.	03:15:59
	Animal. It's not spelled Animal, but.	03:16:01
	No anymore. Anymore.	03:16:05
	OK, so if you look.	03:16:07
	If you look down.	03:16:10
	The details.	03:16:11
	$2000 is for Inlet Keck.	03:16:13
	And Justice wanted to point that out because right.	03:16:16
	They're part of the crew, they're part of the production.	03:16:19
	Well, apparently.	03:16:22
	Councilmember Hernandez has all the answers on that so.	03:16:24
	I just think.	03:16:29
	You know, buried in this request is $2000 for in.	03:16:31
	Latex, which we already fund.	03:16:34
	Except they're not being funded. Yeah, when you say that we already funded that they're not being funded. This. Hold on, hold on.	03:16:38
	We haven't decided what's being funded yet.	03:16:44
	You're talking about last year or?	03:16:47
	This current year, this is for next year.	03:16:49
	All right, anymore other questions regarding?	03:16:54
	Animal. Animal.	03:16:58
	No more.	03:17:00
	Perfect. We'll move on to the next 1 then.	03:17:01
	That would be the VFW.	03:17:07
	That is.	03:17:11
	$10,000 for materials and labor associated with the replacement.	03:17:13
	Olivia W.	03:17:18
	Comments.	03:17:20
	I don't. I don't think we should.	03:17:23
	Support that.	03:17:26
	Comments Councilman Hernandez.	03:17:28
	I would support it because of the role that the VFW has in our community and and the various community.	03:17:32
	Umm, programs that they support.	03:17:40
	And it doesn't say that it can't be included if you look at the.	03:17:42
	Criteria. Umm.	03:17:47
	Community development #2 implementing joint initiatives that foster the Community's economic, social, environmental well-being,	03:17:49
	including but not limited to public infrastructure improvements. I think we all understand that it could be anything. OK, so.	03:17:57
	So we're going to go on the other side now, let her finish talking, and then I'm just OK, OK.	03:18:05
	But people have the opportunity to have their free thoughts heard, so let her finish What?	03:18:14
	She wants to say go ahead.	03:18:20
	The reason I brought that up, Councilman Gama, was because that seemed to be a point of discussion during the Citizens Advisory	03:18:21
	Committee, which I watched twice.	03:18:25
	And they seem to think that it wouldn't qualify because it hadn't been done before, but so I'm pointing that out.	03:18:30
	For that purpose.	03:18:37
	Umm, I do believe the VFW supports the community it has. They have plans for it to even be a backup.	03:18:39
	Location during an emergency, so.	03:18:47
	I support it and that's all I'm saying at this point.	03:18:50
	Great. Any other comments about it reach?	03:18:52
	I support it.	03:18:56
	OK. I'm sorry. That was the VFW. I'm sorry.	03:18:58
	So now we're going to go to #11 is reach.	03:19:01
	And that's $5000 for development of Walk of Freedom program, says Street light pole.	03:19:04
	Banner for veterans, OK.	03:19:12
	These are hanging up on the street light poles for veterans. Got it. Thank you.	03:19:16
	Comments Support and are we getting new banners?	03:19:21
	This it hasn't been approved yet, which is.	03:19:29
	I know, but if we approve it, are we getting new banners? Let's wait to get there and then we'll talk about it.	03:19:31
	But it's not approved. So why would we talk about something that's not even approved yet? Let's let's do.	03:19:36
	First step one, and then we'll move to Step 2.	03:19:41
	Council Member Hernandez, I would suggest because there's another item like this on the list that we send it back for.	03:19:44
	Further, umm.	03:19:52
	Review.	03:19:53
	What item are you referring to? Yeah, there's an item submitted way on item 15.	03:19:57
	OK.	03:20:11
	Screen over here it looks like the same program.	03:20:12
	But let us let's get there, because it's #15.	03:20:15
	And it's by a different person. So let's just kind of work our way. If you all just bear with, let's bear with each other.	03:20:18
	While we get.	03:20:24
	Get there.	03:20:25
	So we're on #11.	03:20:26
	And so any questions about #11?	03:20:28
	So what I what I read and what I understood was they were they were going to.	03:20:31
	They were going to use flags to.	03:20:36
	Honor our Port Wayne Amy veterans.	03:20:39
	Who served and they're going to line.	03:20:43
	The light poles with.	03:20:47
	Veterans. So yeah.	03:20:49
	They would be new banners because they would be honoring.	03:20:50
	Individual.	03:20:53
	Persons. The reason why I bring it up because we have banners that we've put up in the past.	03:20:54
	So is this for the banners or is this for the the cost of personnel staff to put them up?	03:21:00
	It would be to get.	03:21:08
	From how I read this would be.	03:21:09
	New veterans.	03:21:14
	No, Mr. Rawlings, do you have some comments, please?	03:21:15
	Some brief comments please.	03:21:22
	Wrong guy.	03:21:27
	I'm familiar with the city banners that.	03:21:29
	Councilman Gomer.	03:21:32
	That's a completely different situation.	03:21:34
	Those are banners that were set up.	03:21:37
	To promote various different city activities and programs along Ventura Rd.	03:21:39
	This particular project is a new.	03:21:46
	Project where we recognize strictly veterans.	03:21:50
	Who have served that airport? Riney, me, residents. So it's a whole new banners, but it's a whole different project.	03:21:54
	I do have an additional question.	03:22:01
	And so how do you?	03:22:03
	Ensure that.	03:22:05
	Are is it the plan to ensure that all?	03:22:07
	Veterans are.	03:22:10
	How do you how do you do that and where does it very similar, I think we had a.	03:22:14
	The Council had a discussion a while back regarding how we would recognize those people who turned 100 years old and how we would	03:22:19
	do.	03:22:24
	So very similar. We would have to set up criteria as to how long they lived here. You know what they served in that type of a	03:22:28
	thing.	03:22:33
	So those are I guess the details that will.	03:22:38
	You know, as a committee will be developing and we'll be working with the.	03:22:42
	Veterans groups and the Navy to kind of.	03:22:47
	You know, hone those in. So that's something that's positive to all, yes.	03:22:50
	And just one more, I just want to comment the reason I asked the question because we are a military city, so that means that we	03:22:56
	probably have a lot of veterans.	03:22:59
	That have come through here.	03:23:03
	So my question was really about how do you ensure you're representing?	03:23:05
	All veterans versus.	03:23:09
	Some and and how do you continue to do that?	03:23:12
	How do you continue to do that?	03:23:18
	In the development of this program, there's a number of cities right now that follow.	03:23:21
	Have done this particular thing.	03:23:26
	So we will probably be lending ourselves to see some of the various different criteria they did. I for example.	03:23:29
	Locally, I think Santa Paula is 1.	03:23:35
	There's a number of them like back east that like they have.	03:23:38
	Place their banners there of their people. You know, I'm thinking, I'm just thinking on the top of my head, but.	03:23:43
	You know, obviously.	03:23:50
	The veterans who.	03:23:51
	Are the oldest that have.	03:23:53
	Lived here the longest would be the first priority.	03:23:56
	And then you would move from there.	03:24:00
	Great. Thank you. Other questions go ahead.	03:24:02
	Council.	03:24:05
	I would hope to recognize.	03:24:06
	Those veterans who paid the ultimate sacrifice.	03:24:09
	And then perhaps.	03:24:13
	Go down the list, those have been.	03:24:15
	Injured in combat Purple Purple Heart recipients.	03:24:18
	I mean, the way it's being presented right now, it's very broad and.	03:24:21
	Way more veterans.	03:24:26
	Than there are available flags. So how many flags are we talking about? I mean we just don't have all the information. I think we	03:24:28
	well.	03:24:32
	I know 5000 may only just touch.	03:24:36
	On that. So we're gonna have to have some really clear.	03:24:40
	Priorities, some of the things that you mentioned me.	03:24:44
	You know, within the committee, maybe some of the standards that we develop.	03:24:47
	Go ahead. So my thought process on this is you guys would go through a comprehensive application process where you guys are	03:24:53
	identifying.	03:24:57
	You know, rack and stacking.	03:25:02
	Like Mr. Gama said.	03:25:04
	Those who pay the.	03:25:06
	Ultimate sacrifice.	03:25:08
	You know Pows.	03:25:09
	Miasa.	03:25:12
	And these are all residents of Port Hueneme.	03:25:13
	And then you just.	03:25:16
	Keep going down the list.	03:25:17
	Via an application process. Of course, the ones that are no longer here, but.	03:25:19
	Should be.	03:25:25
	That were winning me residents I would assume.	03:25:26
	Those would be on the list as well.	03:25:29
	So I'm assuming that's what you're going to do, right? You're going to go through a comprehensive application process?	03:25:31
	Yeah, absolutely. And we're going to have like some.	03:25:37
	Specific criteria.	03:25:40
	That we kind of go through there. I mean some of the thoughts that have come up by Councilman Gama and yourself and.	03:25:42
	Other councilmen.	03:25:48
	Would be included into that package.	03:25:51
	As to what the priorities might be.	03:25:54
	It was a good point.	03:25:57
	And then, you know, there's all sorts of little things like.	03:25:59
	You're being able to identify those people you know, you know, and.	03:26:04
	You know, working with their families and stuff like that to be able to identify.	03:26:08
	Whether they want impact, want that.	03:26:13
	To be part of the process.	03:26:15
	I mean, it's a very, it's a very positive thing, but it's a very sensitive thing.	03:26:17
	And we need to kind of understand that.	03:26:21
	On that note, I think it's a great idea support it fully.	03:26:25
	However, I think.	03:26:29
	I think more research needs to be done so that we could get an idea to to to achieve all the goals that you outlined.	03:26:31
	It may be more than $5000 so.	03:26:39
	I I just we're trying to pare down a list.	03:26:43
	We have too much on the list, so we do have to pare it down South. I'm just.	03:26:46
	Maybe, I don't know.	03:26:50
	Do you understand what I'm saying though? It's like I know and you know.	03:26:52
	You know, maybe kind of.	03:26:56
	In essence, what you're saying, the tip of the iceberg, it could be, I mean.	03:26:58
	I think what I mean, it's a positive thing to recognize as many people as we can, you know?	03:27:02
	Yes, I think what I'm saying is that if we.	03:27:07
	Approve this money and it takes you a year to get to the point to expense it then.	03:27:11
	Right. Maybe we should hold off until you have a complete program.	03:27:16
	Yeah, thank you. Thank you. Any other questions for Mr. Rawlings?	03:27:22
	Great. Thank you, Sir. Appreciate it.	03:27:25
	So we have come to the end, I think, of priority.	03:27:28
	And so just for a process check.	03:27:35
	I'd like to just ask a question.	03:27:38
	Looking at priority three items.	03:27:41
	Are there anything in priority three?	03:27:44
	That you all are.	03:27:47
	Believe needs to be.	03:27:49
	Bumped up to priority two.	03:27:51
	Or what?	03:27:53
	If not, we don't have to go over them.	03:27:54
	I I do want to comment on 12 and 13. I'm not sure that.	03:27:58
	They need to be.	03:28:02
	Bumped up.	03:28:03
	But I want to.	03:28:05
	Share a little bit about the discussion that was has.	03:28:07
	Share.	03:28:11
	Had during the Citizens Advisory Council about.	03:28:13
	These projects and there was some.	03:28:16
	Information shared that was not completely accurate.	03:28:19
	About the.	03:28:23
	Oxnard Performing Arts Center.	03:28:25
	And that the decision to put them in a Level 3 was not based on merit, it was not based on criteria, it was based on.	03:28:28
	An individual's understanding of.	03:28:35
	The history of the last mural that we did the library mural.	03:28:37
	And and this particular organization.	03:28:42
	So.	03:28:45
	And there was some concern about.	03:28:48
	The use of local artists and I just want to clear the record saying that the Oxnard Performing Arts Center.	03:28:51
	Who did the library mural?	03:28:57
	Did seek out local artists.	03:28:59
	Umm, they made every effort to try to get Winnie Me artists, but we could not find any, so they had to go beyond.	03:29:03
	Why NAMI into Oxford and even into Ventura to get.	03:29:10
	A local artist, so every effort when we do these kinds of murals.	03:29:13
	We certainly do believe and support the idea of using.	03:29:17
	Local artists.	03:29:22
	The the issue why I'm not pushing this up into a higher category is because at this point.	03:29:25
	We are seeking other sources of funding. It's not going to it's going to cost more than $10,000.	03:29:31
	The other thing is that, and I'm sure Councilman Gama, who really adored or being Carpenter, would like to see something like this	03:29:36
	done.	03:29:40
	Has the rest of the Council is.	03:29:44
	You know, or being had a rich.	03:29:46
	Deep history. He was a community icon.	03:29:49
	And the whole idea here is to honor this man.	03:29:52
	And.	03:29:56
	Honor his legacy in a.	03:29:58
	Umm, in a mural.	03:30:00
	On the building that he's named that's named after him.	03:30:02
	But the reason why I don't, I'm not going to ask for it to be bumped up is because it still has to go through a history heritage.	03:30:06
	Heroes award process, and that's probably in itself going to take about a year.	03:30:14
	In the meantime, that will give us an opportunity to seek out.	03:30:18
	Funding for it.	03:30:22
	But I do want to keep it on the list. I don't want to lose sight of it.	03:30:24
	But I hope that this is something that the Council can certainly support.	03:30:28
	There's a continuation of our public art program.	03:30:32
	I do not support.	03:30:35
	I have a problem with.	03:30:37
	Councilmember Hernandez's.	03:30:40
	Protect description of.	03:30:43
	The what lengths went to get Winnemi artists and.	03:30:47
	You know I.	03:30:52
	Have said and I know the art directors of.	03:30:54
	Many high schools and there are amazing talented artists that would love to come and work on our buildings and stuff and so I, I.	03:30:57
	Completely disagree with.	03:31:06
	That.	03:31:09
	OK. And I think we.	03:31:09
	Need to put effort into getting the high schools involved.	03:31:12
	And make it community art from community artists.	03:31:15
	Great. Thank you, Councilmember Perez. Well, I agree Mr. Carpenter did great many things and he served our community. I don't	03:31:19
	support.	03:31:23
	Murals.	03:31:27
	We're community servants. We're not.	03:31:29
	Presidents and kings and Queens. And he has a building named after him that honors him, and everybody uses and everybody knows his	03:31:31
	name.	03:31:34
	So I think putting money to a.	03:31:38
	Another mural.	03:31:39
	Is. I think it's a waste.	03:31:41
	Great. Thank you.	03:31:43
	So go right ahead.	03:31:45
	Oh, I'm jumping along, so I'm sorry. OK, I have nothing on that. OK, so back to the the question at hand is Level 3 priorities.	03:31:48
	Are we OK with them being Level 3? And we don't need to. There's nothing in there that we want to bump up.	03:31:58
	And if there isn't anything that will.	03:32:04
	Will go back up to the top.	03:32:07
	We don't want to bump, I don't want to bump up, but honestly, I just don't have.	03:32:10
	I just don't have the energy to consider Oxnard Performing Arts Center Corporation. I just don't. OK. All right. Thank you. OK.	03:32:17
	So, yeah, applicant.	03:32:21
	Or #15.	03:32:26
	The development of the Veterans of Portland Amy Heralds Walkway initiative.	03:32:28
	It reading that it looks like it would basically start the process of.	03:32:33
	Funding a pathway of a brick.	03:32:40
	Honoring the Port Hueneme veterans of.	03:32:45
	Of our community.	03:32:48
	And.	03:32:49
	Reading that is, I actually thought this was a good project to start. Basically it would have start funding.	03:32:51
	In the reading, it sounds like it would work with the city.	03:33:00
	With city staff to implement.	03:33:04
	A hero's walkway in.	03:33:06
	Port Hueneme somewhere.	03:33:08
	Either Bubbling Springs Park.	03:33:10
	Miranda Park.	03:33:12
	Somewhere where we can, you know, honor our veterans with the with the brick.	03:33:14
	So it sounds like this is a pathway to that.	03:33:19
	So I would like to bump that up.	03:33:23
	See if any if I got any support. I agree and I just wanted to state for the record Randall Thomas is a friend of mine. I spend	03:33:25
	every Saturday with them so if I have to recuse myself I will.	03:33:30
	OK.	03:33:36
	OK, so.	03:33:40
	Let's do this.	03:33:42
	Madam Clerk.	03:33:44
	Can we just take a quick vote?	03:33:46
	On Let's make a motion for this one item, and since it's your suggestion, Mayor Pro Tem, you can do it.	03:33:49
	And then we'll just take a vote.	03:33:56
	OK, well I motion to bump this up to a level 2.	03:33:58
	Which one?	03:34:02
	#15.	03:34:03
	I guess the maximum is 10,000, so we would have to change that.	03:34:06
	I'll second that bumping up.	03:34:09
	Level 2.	03:34:11
	Level 2 at 10,000.	03:34:12
	Yes.	03:34:14
	OK. Just for the record on that, so we had advised people that because we expected a lot of applications, we advised them not to	03:34:16
	request more than 10,000, but.	03:34:21
	It's there's no firm cap.	03:34:27
	Council, let me let me just say this real quick.	03:34:30
	So.	03:34:32
	So I would expect.	03:34:34
	That as a council.	03:34:36
	When we look at these items.	03:34:38
	We're not looking at them holistically as this is what was requested, therefore that is the project.	03:34:40
	We need to either. We need to also make a decision whether it's.	03:34:46
	The amount that they submitted.	03:34:50
	Or are we willing to give them something but maybe not that amount?	03:34:52
	So a couple of things. So let's make sure we.	03:34:55
	Doing that, yeah. So when I evaluate.	03:34:58
	So hold on man, hold, hold on a minute.	03:35:02
	We have a motion.	03:35:03
	We're stressing.	03:35:05
	But we have to do the motion. He's got a motion on the floor. So I had a motion, I had a second, you got a second, and we went.	03:35:07
	I just want to confirm, Councilmember Goma, you were the second.	03:35:13
	OK, OK, great. OK, so we have a second, so go ahead. I'm sorry discussion. OK, so.	03:35:15
	My comments on this particular item or when I look at.	03:35:21
	Applications I look at whether the applicant has matched.	03:35:26
	The criteria that was put out, so the first flag I saw in here was 15,000. OK, so he succeeded.	03:35:31
	The request by $5000, it was like the drone project $38,000. I mean that.	03:35:38
	Somebody did not do their homework and read.	03:35:43
	The application.	03:35:46
	Umm, the second thing that raised a red flag for me on here was that he's not.	03:35:49
	He's not a product nonprofit.	03:35:55
	So what's the fiduciary process that's going to be employed here? It wasn't a requirement.	03:35:57
	Well, my, my question still remains, what's the fiduciary process? We did well with all.	03:36:04
	Excuse me, hold on a minute. Let her finish. So with Coastal Keepers, we had the same issue because they were not a nonprofit, but	03:36:10
	we ended up.	03:36:14
	Giving them the money anyway because they were the port agreed to be their fiduciary agent.	03:36:18
	So I'm not.	03:36:23
	I'm not.	03:36:24
	Saying that it's not a good project and that I don't support it.	03:36:25
	But that.	03:36:29
	If we do agree to do this.	03:36:30
	That, umm.	03:36:33
	Randall's going to have to find.	03:36:35
	A fiduciary agent.	03:36:37
	To to do complete this project.	03:36:38
	And it sounds so familiar to.	03:36:42
	What the banner program?	03:36:46
	Wants to do so that's why I was hoping that the two entities could come together and come to some agreement and coming up with.	03:36:48
	A plan for recognizing.	03:36:56
	Veterans.	03:36:59
	I would recommend that.	03:37:00
	You know, I'm fine with you moving with moving it up, but let's do it at $10,000, not 15.	03:37:02
	Yep, I agree.	03:37:08
	Did did I understand that?	03:37:12
	Did I understand that any recommendation that exceeded 10,000 is only going to go forward at 10,000?	03:37:14
	No, it's up to the Council.	03:37:20
	OK.	03:37:23
	OK, we're ready. Yeah, no other discussion.	03:37:27
	OK, OK.	03:37:30
	Talking about the motion is again.	03:37:32
	To move the item to priority two.	03:37:34
	With 10,000 Dollar $10,000.	03:37:37
	Yes, all in favor.	03:37:40
	Aye, all opposed.	03:37:43
	Mayor McQueen.	03:37:46
	OK, so.	03:37:48
	Motion passes for one, with Mayor McQueen Legend voting no.	03:37:50
	Thank you. Thank you.	03:37:53
	All right. And so anything else on priority three?	03:37:55
	I just wanted to mention something on a 16.	03:37:59
	The one Amy sister cities.	03:38:02
	Again, this was a decision not based on merit or the.	03:38:05
	What was was not based on information that was included in the application. There were statements made that this just went.	03:38:10
	That the funding just went to City Council members so they can go to Port Puerto Vallarta. That's not the case of this particular	03:38:16
	application. I just wanted to.	03:38:21
	To state for the record.	03:38:26
	That it's for.	03:38:28
	Music and literature event at Wanini Beach not to send people to Puerto Vallarta.	03:38:30
	Great. Thank you.	03:38:37
	OK, any other item. Any other item.	03:38:39
	Want to move?	03:38:43
	OK, so that means that. So we've moved.	03:38:44
	Randall Thomas #15 up to priority two.	03:38:47
	The priority threes are still priority threes, so we're not going to be discussing them any further.	03:38:51
	And we missed 13.	03:38:56
	Now we we talked about that.	03:39:00
	Together, that's what.	03:39:02
	Oh, I didn't.	03:39:04
	You said you had a comment.	03:39:06
	You have another comment about.	03:39:07
	Yeah. Well, thirteen, I was just talking about item number 12, but 13, I'll just pass on knowing the sentiment of this, yeah.	03:39:09
	Well, we didn't. We didn't take weed him we didn't.	03:39:15
	Oh, I did.	03:39:20
	I thought we were, yeah. The question was, was there anything in priority three that you wanted to move up?	03:39:21
	Thank you.	03:39:27
	Can we ask like if there anything in priority to that we want to downgrade to three?	03:39:27
	To whittle this down if you want to do that.	03:39:33
	Yep. Does anybody, is there anything, is there anything a priority to that you want to move down to or or one?	03:39:39
	Is there anything in priority one or two that you want to move down to priority three?	03:39:46
	I'm good anything.	03:39:54
	Did you have something?	03:39:57
	Did we so?	03:39:58
	Any item on priority two.	03:40:02
	Is moving forward.	03:40:05
	No, no, OK. We're just. We're just.	03:40:07
	It's just we'll deal with that at another meeting or tonight.	03:40:09
	No, not tonight. OK, great.	03:40:13
	All right, we're good.	03:40:16
	So process, so we, we have we've reviewed items one, priority one and priority two.	03:40:18
	We've decided on one item, priority three.	03:40:23
	We're not going to review anything else in priority three because no one here wants to move.	03:40:25
	Them up, so we're good with that.	03:40:30
	So we're going to go back to prior. Is there anything from priority one or priority two that you think belongs in priority three?	03:40:31
	No. OK, let's do another process.	03:40:40
	Is there any start from #1 please?	03:40:43
	Is there anything on the list that you believe?	03:40:46
	The request for funding is an amount, and you believe it should be a different amount.	03:40:51
	I'm wondering where Banana festival, Beach festival is that going to be?	03:40:56
	Put into the priority ranking.	03:41:02
	Yeah, let's let's let's look at this.	03:41:04
	And then we we know that.	03:41:07
	From the beginning we said we know we have to think about Beach festival, we have to think about banana Festival.	03:41:09
	Right. Yeah, but it should.	03:41:14
	Do you have a? Did you have a sheet with that information on it? I thought you had a page that said these items.	03:41:16
	Our items.	03:41:22
	Yes, it's on.	03:41:24
	Page, can you turn to that page 7 of 70? Are you referring to the report or the PowerPoint presentation? It's in both this	03:41:25
	presentation.	03:41:29
	I think she's asking for the listing of.	03:41:37
	These projects right here.	03:41:40
	You know there's one item that's not on here is the first.	03:41:42
	Robotics event.	03:41:46
	That's right.	03:41:49
	What's part of the CBF fund which is $5000?	03:41:50
	Well, we have to remember the port is coming back with their list, so they'll probably include that, but that's the priority #1.	03:41:54
	This is just council list. Port will bring their own list. What you're talking about is the port.	03:42:00
	OK, that's.	03:42:06
	Anemia robotics. OK.	03:42:07
	So any suggestions on the next step?	03:42:09
	Any suggestions? I don't.	03:42:13
	OK, No items that, no items in one and two, that priority one and two that you want to move to three.	03:42:15
	So we're just looking at priorities 1 and 2.	03:42:21
	Can we just go through here really quickly?	03:42:23
	The Boys and Girls Club.	03:42:25
	Can we get clarity on exactly what, where the money's?	03:42:27
	What are we gonna spend the money on? Like what? What?	03:42:32
	I don't think it was crystal clear.	03:42:34
	So assume it's the teen center.	03:42:36
	Yeah, that's so broad.	03:42:39
	What? What?	03:42:41
	Or what?	03:42:42
	That teen center is already open.	03:42:44
	I think if we just whittle it down to what it.	03:42:47
	What exactly are they?	03:42:49
	Going to expand or?	03:42:50
	For field trips.	03:42:53
	It just it did say field trips, but.	03:42:55
	What? What?	03:42:57
	What are we getting at? What field trips?	03:42:59
	You could go back and watch the CAC meeting the boys and girls Rep was there and.	03:43:01
	So that information is available.	03:43:06
	Council member, it doesn't provide answers to all your questions, but I did just want to clarify the application does specify	03:43:09
	because this came up before that it will be used for the port one meeting center and the two categories that are referenced, our	03:43:14
	field trips and supplies to support the center. If the council wants additional detail, it's certainly something we can follow up	03:43:19
	with the applicant and get before making a decision. I would like to suggest that we.	03:43:24
	Get a spreadsheet like you did in the past.	03:43:30
	Which was landscaped.	03:43:33
	Multiple columns.	03:43:35
	And the column served to answer.	03:43:36
	The basic same questions.	03:43:39
	For each category.	03:43:41
	Because this is really hard to go through this format.	03:43:43
	But again, I think we we we have a list.	03:43:47
	But if we could landscape it and then.	03:43:50
	You know, try to answer, anticipate the questions that we're having.	03:43:53
	So that it kind of speaks to itself. So.	03:43:57
	With Boys and Girls Club.	03:44:00
	If it's going to be at the teen center.	03:44:02
	Great.	03:44:04
	So be it. Say it.	03:44:06
	Right. So let's just do it, do another step. So are we in agreement that priority one items are priority one items?	03:44:07
	We're in agreement with that. OK, great. So let's start with the priority one items and just go down the list and say are these	03:44:15
	the amounts that we want?	03:44:19
	To remain for that, for that item, I think when we approved them, we approved the amounts unless we said differently.	03:44:24
	When you say we approved them, we haven't approved. I mean, while we've approved them to be where they are on the list, we didn't	03:44:30
	talk about.	03:44:33
	The funds, I don't think that's not why.	03:44:37
	OK, let's go through. OK, let's let's let's just do it.	03:44:40
	OK.	03:44:43
	Beating a dead horse here.	03:44:46
	I think we've satisfied what we set out to satisfy tonight.	03:44:48
	So can we bring it back with a little more clarity and.	03:44:52
	Perhaps. I would not bring it back. I think we need to send it off to the port for their discussion. We're just holding up the	03:44:56
	process.	03:44:59
	Let's go ahead with your process. Let's do this.	03:45:02
	I'll start from #1 And you just say if you don't want the amount to change, just say you don't want them out to change. It's not	03:45:06
	that hard. And then will this will be our price since you've already said priority one is priority one.	03:45:11
	This will be our priority list.	03:45:17
	OK, so.	03:45:18
	Number one equine, that's 493391. Everybody's OK with that.	03:45:22
	Great. Thank you.	03:45:28
	There.	03:45:29
	Any questions?	03:45:31
	Everybody's about that.	03:45:32
	Umm #2 is reach city manager? I did have a question about that $6000 so if you could help find out what the caught that cost is	03:45:34
	for.	03:45:39
	#3 is for $10,000. I think Mayor Pro Tem wants to know a little more about the trip.	03:45:46
	And the materials, is that correct?	03:45:53
	Yes. OK. So we'll we'll look at that number later.	03:45:55
	Winemi Robotics is $10,000. Any kind of any questions?	03:46:00
	No, that seemed accurate. I mean, I have no idea about the.	03:46:06
	Program the only.	03:46:09
	I read the application, it's pretty detailed. It's pretty detailed but my only.	03:46:11
	Concern would be to make sure they have a program.	03:46:16
	They do. It's there in the applicants.	03:46:20
	OK.	03:46:24
	Everybody OK with that?	03:46:25
	OK.	03:46:27
	Real.	03:46:28
	Yeah, real guppy.	03:46:30
	I'm good outdoor. Everybody's good with that.	03:46:32
	OK, umm.	03:46:35
	Port Hueneme police explores.	03:46:36
	There was some conversation about the Beach Fest. Did you want to pick that up or you will have any questions about that? I just	03:46:40
	wanted to make my concern.	03:46:43
	Share my concern.	03:46:47
	Is everybody good with a 10,000?	03:46:48
	Yep, OK.	03:46:51
	#8 Nate's Place.	03:46:52
	10,000.	03:46:55
	I think was what we.	03:46:56
	Somebody motion to change it to 10,000.	03:46:58
	Yeah.	03:47:03
	Did the same. I wrote down 10,000, so I think somebody said it, yeah. So everybody's good with 10,000.	03:47:04
	OK.	03:47:12
	Let's see. And that's that's priority one.	03:47:16
	And everything else stays on the list when it priority the port, yeah, it's priority too. And we'll we'll add based on what we	03:47:21
	receive.	03:47:24
	And so do I know you all don't.	03:47:29
	Do you happen to know what that number is without the adjustments?	03:47:32
	The number of what priority one is or priority?	03:47:36
	Already.	03:47:39
	Just what we just agreed to. Party 1 I believe is 55,934.	03:47:40
	What's up on the screen? Yes, I guess it's the it's the first on that range there and that if we include 10,000 versus to 15,000,	03:47:47
	Yeah. And then if we include the 30,000 for the Beach Fest, Banana Fest and 5K, that would put us at 85,934.	03:47:54
	And then priority two items would be.	03:48:01
	Think adding that.	03:48:05
	One item to the.	03:48:08
	Randall Thomas is item 2, priority two. That would be another 30,000 potentially.	03:48:10
	So that would put us.	03:48:15
	At a total of what is that 119?	03:48:16
	Which is pretty close to the our one.	03:48:19
	Pretty pretty close to the top.	03:48:23
	So, all right, sounds good. Everybody OK with that?	03:48:26
	Does it include the beach fest and the 5K? Yeah.	03:48:29
	Second, OK. And so I know there were a couple that more information was asked for. Since there is more process to this, we'll get	03:48:34
	that information and share it.	03:48:38
	In the meantime, while it's going.	03:48:43
	Well, it's still kind of routing through the process.	03:48:45
	OK.	03:48:50
	OK, so.	03:48:58
	Is there a The recommendation is to review applications for funding.	03:49:00
	From the Community Benefit Fund taken into consideration and recommendation provided by the Citizen Advisory Commission.	03:49:05
	And offer guidance to the council representatives on the city import.	03:49:12
	I think we've done that. City Manager, is there a motion?	03:49:17
	To approve or accept.	03:49:22
	The recommendation?	03:49:24
	Of these items and what we've given to the city manager.	03:49:25
	2nd.	03:49:29
	Great. Thank you. Any any further discussion?	03:49:30
	No, Madam Clerk, can we take a roll call, please?	03:49:34
	Councilmember Gama.	03:49:37
	Absolutely.	03:49:40
	Councilmember Hernandez, Yes.	03:49:41
	Councilmember Perez, yes, Mayor Pro Tem Lopez, yes, and Mayor McQueen Lashon, yes. Motion passes unanimously. Thank you. We'll	03:49:43
	move to item number 10. Recommendation for City Council to direct staff to draft an ordinance.	03:49:49
	Restricting the sale of and distribution of.	03:49:55
	Nitrous.	03:50:00
	Oxides, thank you.	03:50:02
	I'm going to say something I haven't yet today which I think this item will be quick and simple.	03:50:05
	So.	03:50:13
	We're what we're doing today is we aren't asking for an ordinance to be approved yet.	03:50:14
	And so we don't need to get super into the weeds. What we're looking for is general direction.	03:50:22
	And the idea being that we've identified an issue we're asking.	03:50:27
	For the authority to have the city attorney's office spend some time drafting an ordinance, but.	03:50:32
	Just sort of as a standard procedural issue as the city attorney works for the City Council, so we're asking the city attorney,	03:50:38
	the City Council to.	03:50:41
	Authorized the city attorney to draft that ordinance for.	03:50:46
	For us.	03:50:49
	And so the subject is.	03:50:50
	Essentially.	03:50:52
	Nitrous oxide use.	03:50:54
	Are actually the sell and distribution of nitrous oxide.	03:50:56
	We've been seeing a dramatic increase.	03:50:59
	Of usage of nitrous oxide by.	03:51:05
	Youth in our community.	03:51:08
	It's something that.	03:51:10
	It's a world I didn't really know about.	03:51:13
	I've always seen these little canisters that are shown in the picture and I thought that they were just things people bought for	03:51:15
	their cars, but apparently.	03:51:18
	You can see some of those look like.	03:51:22
	Almost like the candy labeling or things like that. And apparently it's it's actually.	03:51:24
	Essentially advertised even though it's not supposed to be and sold to youth.	03:51:30
	For for use as a as an illegal substance.	03:51:35
	And so.	03:51:40
	It's something that we've noticed, it's something our police departments been dealing with and responding to and we.	03:51:42
	Have gotten to the point where we want to find other tools to try to address this issue.	03:51:48
	I I.	03:51:54
	Was going to give an opportunity if the Chiefs still here and I think he is here yeah to.	03:51:56
	For the chief to just talk a little bit about what the officers are seeing and why this is, is really an issue that we need to	03:52:01
	tackle.	03:52:04
	And so, Chief, do you want to speak a little bit about?	03:52:09
	I also see a paint can.	03:52:12
	Down there.	03:52:14
	And, you know, we pick a lot of that up on the beach and these canisters as well. Go ahead. Yeah, I was, I was shocked myself when	03:52:15
	I came back as chief to see.	03:52:19
	Just how much use is out there?	03:52:24
	There's also a lot of youngsters I know in this community.	03:52:27
	In several of the neighborhoods.	03:52:31
	Where the friends are using it and.	03:52:33
	They will openly tell you you can see the drastic difference in their friends after just months of huffing because it becomes such	03:52:36
	a.	03:52:39
	Prolific.	03:52:42
	Easy, quick high.	03:52:43
	We have sections.	03:52:46
	Well, I'll even back up to this.	03:52:49
	I backed an officer on a column Marina Village.	03:52:51
	And I couldn't figure out what the the the female suspect was that we were was doing as we're approaching.	03:52:53
	He goes up and I get out of my car.	03:52:58
	And she turns away from him.	03:53:00
	To continue huffing to the last minute until he walks up and takes it out of her head.	03:53:02
	It's become that.	03:53:06
	Addictive of a high.	03:53:09
	And all the officers can give you examples of that and.	03:53:11
	You'll find youngsters sitting on curbs behind cars, huffing, and then they put the canister down there.	03:53:14
	So it's it's a brain cell killer.	03:53:20
	What we have, we have sections in place in the state to use for possession.	03:53:23
	And the officers are utilizing it.	03:53:29
	There's really limited on what we can do.	03:53:31
	To the retailers who are selling these to kids when they shouldn't.	03:53:35
	So that's where we're asking for the help here is how do we stop them from getting out of the shops in town?	03:53:39
	Anything else on that?	03:53:46
	And if I may, prior to this, I did some extensive research on what where the juvenile, the youth in our community, where they're	03:53:47
	accessing this.	03:53:52
	So I went to every single smoke shop if you will, that doesn't.	03:53:56
	I'm not saying smoke shop to include cannabis dispensaries, it's just a traditional smoke shop in regards to.	03:54:00
	Nicotine products, tobacco products, things like that. So.	03:54:06
	Smoke shops, every single one or city sells it.	03:54:09
	And along with the balloons to a lot of the times with those canisters as you see on the top, there's the little nozzle.	03:54:12
	The product that comes out of it is way too cold to put your mouth on it, so they take these balloons and then they refill it and	03:54:19
	that's how they use it to.	03:54:23
	Essentially get their high.	03:54:27
	And so with every single smoke shop in our city selling it, I think that's a.	03:54:28
	Important thing to tackle.	03:54:34
	Thank you. Yeah, it's such a.	03:54:37
	Thing I'm not used to that. When I first saw the ad for it, they advertised in different ways, but one of the things we saw was	03:54:39
	they called it like a whipped cream recharge.	03:54:43
	A recharger.	03:54:50
	And but then you read the description and it literally says like, this is how they're advertising it is.	03:54:52
	This whipped cream recharger will take you on a trip.	03:54:58
	Or, you know, things like that, and it's so obvious that it's really a drug.	03:55:02
	And so and it's.	03:55:06
	Being marketed with the bright colors and like you know, kid kid friendly graphics and things like that.	03:55:07
	Yeah, it was interesting because I was like, I'm going to ask the question.	03:55:15
	Are they selling it in a report? Why need me? Then I said no, I'm not gonna ask that silly question because no, they're not	03:55:18
	selling it here in Fort Wayne.	03:55:21
	But they are selling it here, correct? Yeah, I was just curious one day and so I just went to every single smoke shop that we have	03:55:24
	and every single one is selling it behind the counter.	03:55:29
	I think this is a really strong step forward for our city, but I also think we need to reach out to the city of Oxnard. I mean, so	03:55:35
	oh, it's not at that smoke shop. You just go across the street will be at the other smoke shop in Oxnard, so.	03:55:41
	And then we should.	03:55:48
	Probably even elevate this to the county and then hopefully to the state because.	03:55:49
	It all makes sense to me now, I can tell you.	03:55:53
	So many of these little.	03:55:58
	There's little bottles, there's big bottles, but we pick them up on the beach all the time. It's a it's a great point. And other	03:56:00
	cities in California are doing the same thing right now. We've actually looked at some other ordinances, so.	03:56:06
	You're right for the county. Let's be leaders in public safety, folks, and let's grab it and run with it and then.	03:56:12
	Be the example for some other.	03:56:18
	Thank you, Officer from for your report and Chief.	03:56:23
	So, umm.	03:56:27
	If vape shops, smoke shops are selling this.	03:56:29
	Behind the from behind the counter? What are they selling it for?	03:56:32
	Obviously the one people that are coming and buying it, they're not explicitly saying what they're using it for. The intended	03:56:38
	purpose of these, like was previously stated, is technically a food grade product. It's whipped cream.	03:56:44
	Every single canister that you'll see, they're all flavored individually. You'll see everything from mango to.	03:56:50
	OK, so sorry to interrupt.	03:56:56
	So I guess I'm trying to get at, does it have a utilitarian value to, you know, using a vape cigarette or you know, a vape device?	03:56:58
	Is it associated with their product that they're actually?	03:57:05
	There to sell, OK. No, not at all. Thank you.	03:57:11
	The When we looked at other city ordinances, other cities will exempt.	03:57:14
	Them for.	03:57:20
	Their actual allowed uses, which is like nitrous oxide for a car to make your car faster. Yeah, yeah. Which, you know, would not	03:57:22
	necessarily encouraging that anyway.	03:57:28
	But like I said, the other one was like, as they call it, like a whipped cream recharger, which is I guess to actually recharge	03:57:35
	your whipped cream dispenser devices.	03:57:39
	And so there are like exceptions for.	03:57:44
	In most of the ordinances we looked at, it's something that we'd look at doing is there's exceptions for those legitimate uses.	03:57:47
	But obviously if you're buying it for your car, you're not buying a flavored.	03:57:54
	You know, mango flavored from a smoke shop for your car?	03:57:59
	Providing the balloons, correct, Right, Right. Yeah, I've seen that. I've seen that. Well, the smoke, one of our smoke shops had	03:58:03
	the balloons right above.	03:58:07
	The the canisters themselves so they know what.	03:58:12
	The purpose is when they're selling these things. Yeah. And the question, Mayor?	03:58:14
	Yes. So how is this being? It's obvious if.	03:58:18
	Flavored product.	03:58:23
	Is used for consumption, so how is this even legal? I mean I don't understand how it's just so.	03:58:24
	The limitations on even what?	03:58:30
	Like it's just a log right? The VMP section requires them to log their sales of it.	03:58:33
	This is why.	03:58:38
	Somebody's got to care.	03:58:40
	This exactly what you're saying it's like somebody's got to pay attention and care so we can do it local levels and then they can	03:58:42
	take it bigger but.	03:58:45
	We can control what we can control.	03:58:48
	So we can do something in the immediate.	03:58:50
	As fast as we move on this.	03:58:52
	And then hope others start falling.	03:58:55
	The legitimate uses are typically in a little.	03:58:58
	Silver bullet type looking thing and I know it Anna Cappuccino. That's how they.	03:59:03
	Get the cream to be whipped cream.	03:59:07
	And they're, but they're, they're individual shooters Then you know, they last for probably 30 dispenses and they put another one	03:59:10
	in.	03:59:13
	But I mean these things, they.	03:59:16
	Absolutely have a.	03:59:18
	Mouthpiece that you suck on and it's just it's or you put a balloon on and.	03:59:21
	And.	03:59:27
	We've been finding balloons, canisters.	03:59:29
	And now it all makes sense. So yeah, we need to ban this stuff.	03:59:32
	Lots of things.	03:59:36
	In the retail market.	03:59:37
	That started out with good intentions.	03:59:38
	Yeah.	03:59:42
	Thank you for bringing it forward.	03:59:43
	Mayor Pro Tem.	03:59:46
	So if we do enact an ordinance, are we going to?	03:59:48
	Prohibit.	03:59:52
	The possession.	03:59:53
	Of this item to an 18 year old like.	03:59:55
	That say you know someone who's 17 years old is huffing this.	03:59:57
	And you guys rolled up on him?	04:00:01
	What's going to happen? We already have that in place.	04:00:02
	We are protected by a California Penal Code in regards to, you know, using it for illicit purposes. So if I roll up, say something	04:00:06
	behind the library, for example.	04:00:09
	I've literally pulled a balloon out of someones mouth because they're using it for illicit purposes and that person then got	04:00:14
	charged with.	04:00:17
	The 381 section.	04:00:21
	So luckily we have that in place. I think the intent of this is to ban the sale.	04:00:22
	In the city altogether, stop the supply.	04:00:27
	Correct. Thank you.	04:00:29
	Youngster There's kids as young as 1415.	04:00:31
	To stop them from just walking up.	04:00:37
	Two or four blocks to.	04:00:40
	Thank you.	04:00:46
	Any other question?	04:00:47
	No, OK.	04:00:48
	Any public comments?	04:00:51
	No public.	04:00:53
	OK, before us, we have a recommendation to direct the city attorney to draft an ordinance prohibiting the sale and distribution.	04:00:54
	Of nitrous oxide within the city of Port Hueneme and an effort to enhance.	04:01:01
	Public safety.	04:01:05
	Is there a motion and a second? So move to 2nd?	04:01:07
	Any further discussion?	04:01:11
	Madam Clerk, can you take a roll, please?	04:01:13
	All in favor.	04:01:15
	All opposed.	04:01:17
	Hearing none, motion passes unanimously.	04:01:18
	Thank you. Thank you so much.	04:01:21
	We'll move to item.	04:01:23
	Excuse for a moment, Sure.	04:01:25
	We're going to move to item 11, Broadband Master Plan update. Will staff please present the report?	04:01:29
	Yes, thank you.	04:01:38
	Sorry, Aaron, you got a.	04:01:40
	So I.	04:01:44
	So I'm going to introduce Aaron, our IT Manager.	04:01:49
	I think just before I do that I want to quickly note.	04:01:53
	That we are. One of the things we're trying to do right now is we have some master plans that are adopted and those master plans	04:01:57
	have projects.	04:02:01
	And we're trying to look at those projects realistically and look at those projects.	04:02:05
	Particularly against.	04:02:10
	Our sort of our preliminary budget numbers for the next couple years and try to figure out when.	04:02:12
	You know when and how we can implement some of those projects.	04:02:18
	But it's also some of the plans had been drafted.	04:02:21
	Several years.	04:02:25
	In the past where I think maybe there was a different economic climate.	04:02:26
	And so I think.	04:02:31
	We're trying to look at these master plans realistically and.	04:02:32
	And really look at which projects are achievable.	04:02:36
	I can tell you there is one master plan that had talked about creating a new department with a whole new team.	04:02:40
	And looking ahead, I don't see how that's really economically achievable in the next couple of years.	04:02:45
	So, so we're just trying to look at all the master plans, be realistic, but also.	04:02:51
	Also, try to start planning for them so we could actually start implementing some of the goals of those plans.	04:02:56
	So with that in mind, we.	04:03:02
	Asked Aaron, our A-Team manager, to.	04:03:05
	Start looking at the broadband master plan.	04:03:08
	And sort of.	04:03:11
	Get the goals in that plan that we can accomplish.	04:03:13
	Now, which ones might have to be accomplished a little later and then?	04:03:16
	Ultimately, if there's some.	04:03:20
	Goals that we are recommending.	04:03:21
	Removing from the master plan. And so with that, I'll ask Aaron to walk us through that.	04:03:23
	Good evening, Mayor, Mayor Pro Tem, council members.	04:03:30
	City staff and members of the public.	04:03:35
	As City Manager Vega mentioned, part of the review that we did in this was because this plan seemed to have been.	04:03:37
	Developed at a time where there was a significantly different economic environment.	04:03:45
	And also at the time the plan was developed, there was no funding mechanism in place to accomplish some of these goals.	04:03:51
	We've reviewed.	04:04:00
	Some of the solution or the plans that were in there and those are going to be the concentration of tonight's presentation is	04:04:02
	recommendation on the five specific phases that were developed.	04:04:07
	Again, this was developed in.	04:04:13
	2023.	04:04:17
	Phase one is the Ventura County Middle Mile project that was called out and that is.	04:04:20
	An existing project to bring a backbone.	04:04:26
	Internet throughout the county.	04:04:28
	We are there are current efforts in place.	04:04:31
	Along the 126 Freeway, Simi Valley and Upper Ojai to produce.	04:04:34
	This backbone, it will not be direct connections for the public.	04:04:40
	It will be the backbone to carry all of the Internet traffic into the.	04:04:44
	Larger basin area and out to.	04:04:49
	The World Wide Web.	04:04:52
	Their city staff, myself.	04:04:56
	Primarily, umm.	04:04:59
	Are still members of the V Cog Broadband working Group, and so I continue to advocate for bringing additional resources into the.	04:05:00
	City of Porto Anemia, if we do have some.	04:05:09
	Opportunity to develop that.	04:05:12
	So the recommendation for phase one is to retain this phase.	04:05:14
	Phase 2 is specifically regarding city facilities.	04:05:20
	Recommend and connect connections between the library.	04:05:25
	Community Center, City Hall, Public Works and the housing building.	04:05:29
	It also calls for enhancement of services at the Wenimi Beach Park.	04:05:34
	For both economic and tourism.	04:05:38
	One of the things that was.	04:05:43
	Missing from the.	04:05:45
	Recommendation was the fact that.	04:05:47
	City Hall, public works and housing buildings are already connected by fiber that the city owns. It has been in place.	04:05:49
	The branch library is not a city resource specifically.	04:06:00
	But they do have a significant broadband connectivity there already.	04:06:04
	And then in reference to the Wyoming Beach Park.	04:06:10
	City Council recently approved the.	04:06:14
	Services from SCAG on the latter grant.	04:06:18
	With the plan to develop.	04:06:21
	Increases at the Wendy Beach to address some of the needs that we have there.	04:06:25
	We've already begun.	04:06:31
	Interviewing.	04:06:32
	Key stakeholders.	04:06:35
	From the area.	04:06:37
	In part.	04:06:40
	For it is includes city staff.	04:06:41
	For our projects to potentially put.	04:06:44
	Cameras at the beach.	04:06:49
	We need to support our Rani Beach Festival. There's been significant challenges for.	04:06:52
	Vendors who have presented or provided services there, they're unable to use even with.	04:06:57
	Let's see, Verizon brought in a.	04:07:05
	Device to supplement services.	04:07:08
	Costco brought in device to supplement services, but they still struggle at those locations.	04:07:11
	And some of the.	04:07:17
	Resources that the city utilizes for the beach parking machines could significantly benefit from increased bandwidth.	04:07:20
	At the one you've each part.	04:07:27
	So we're recommending that we reduce the scopes.	04:07:29
	On Phase 2.	04:07:32
	The details of the funding were not broken out to the level that we would have liked on this event, so we don't know the exact	04:07:35
	difference in the.	04:07:39
	Present in the amount that would be.	04:07:45
	Utilized for this phase, but specifically the city buildings have already been connected. So that's a significant reduction in	04:07:48
	that price.	04:07:51
	And part of the latter grant would include seeking funding on behalf of the city.	04:07:56
	To provide the services that they identify for that region.	04:08:02
	Phase 3 is an integration of schools and the city network was a recommendation.	04:08:08
	When staff contacted the school district, they indicated they are already significantly served by Internet and didn't find that.	04:08:16
	Partnering with the city would.	04:08:25
	Provide any benefit to them.	04:08:27
	So we're recommending that we remove phase three from the plan.	04:08:29
	Phase 4 is a term they use of diversity.	04:08:35
	And we are recommending that we retain this and it wouldn't change from the initial plan or what staff are continuing to explore	04:08:40
	as options to expand.	04:08:45
	The way that we can.	04:08:50
	Connect our anchor institutions, which would include City Hall.	04:08:52
	Fire Department.	04:08:57
	The Community Center potentially and so we recommend that we retain this phase and staff will continue to work on.	04:08:59
	Options to provide diversity to the Internet connectivity that.	04:09:08
	Services.	04:09:13
	And then Phase 5 was Wine Emit Bay. There was a significant area there at Wyoming Bay that was considered unserved or underserved	04:09:17
	based on the.	04:09:22
	California Public Utilities Commission.	04:09:28
	Standards for Internet service.	04:09:31
	The board of directors at the HOA have already selected a vendor to serve as a replacement for their fiber optic.	04:09:35
	Services there.	04:09:44
	The city has additionally approved.	04:09:46
	An application to construct a cell tower to service the.	04:09:49
	Residents at Winnemi Bay.	04:09:53
	And that combination of services will significantly increase the level of service for those areas. And so we'll remove that area	04:09:57
	from the unserved or underserved status.	04:10:03
	So the recommendation for fave 5 would be that we would remove this phase from.	04:10:09
	The master plan.	04:10:14
	The master plan also included a dozen.	04:10:18
	Next steps.	04:10:21
	That were recommended.	04:10:23
	The first one was the creation of an Advisory Board and at this point we would recommend that that is an unnecessarily step.	04:10:25
	Since the.	04:10:35
	City staff are already in county white committees.	04:10:38
	And with the reduction?	04:10:43
	Of the scope of work for the other phases.	04:10:45
	The need for an advisory committee seems to no longer exist.	04:10:49
	Steps 5 and 6 discuss.	04:10:55
	Creating an enterprise fund and financing strategy.	04:10:58
	Stuff is recommending that the city pursue, not pursue.	04:11:02
	Become an immuncial service provider so there's not a need for an enterprise fund.	04:11:07
	The phase.	04:11:13
	Projects that are remaining.	04:11:14
	Exactly that. They are projects and not ongoing services, so we don't recommend that.	04:11:18
	We would need an enterprise fund or funding strategy for that.	04:11:24
	And then one of the final steps that was recommended was a donation of surplus equipment.	04:11:31
	To uh.	04:11:36
	Help the community that may be underprivileged and not have access to those things but.	04:11:38
	In my personal experience in the past with trying to do that with for the city.	04:11:44
	The equipment that we're getting rid of is not usable equipment.	04:11:50
	The reason we're taking it out of service generally is that.	04:11:55
	It is not.	04:11:59
	It may have made sense if we had stuck with the IT master plan.	04:12:00
	Of replacement at a three-year schedule but with the current replacement.	04:12:06
	Schedule we are considering due to the financial situation.	04:12:10
	Equivalents not going to be usable.	04:12:14
	When we did do it in the past.	04:12:16
	Much like the previous discussion, we had applicants and we wanted to consider.	04:12:21
	Applicants for the surplus equipment to be members of the.	04:12:28
	City of Port Hueneme.	04:12:33
	And so we gave them the priority for that.	04:12:35
	Then we went and.	04:12:38
	Picked the nonprofit organizations within the city who had applied but.	04:12:40
	By the time we got in their list of potential equipment, they just didn't even want to pick it up any longer, so.	04:12:46
	It's it's certainly more environmentally friendly for us to recycle that equipment.	04:12:56
	So we recommend.	04:13:02
	Not donating surplus equipment.	04:13:04
	And so in summary.	04:13:09
	We were We recommend that the City Council approve the amendments to the plan.	04:13:11
	Which would result in an estimated reduction of future project cost of impact.	04:13:16
	Approximately $4,293,000.	04:13:21
	We would accept guidance from.	04:13:25
	The City Council on any adjustment, other recommendations and then eventually.	04:13:30
	Staff will return with a consent item to summarize the changes.	04:13:35
	That we make here tonight.	04:13:41
	And I'm available for any questions you may have.	04:13:43
	Any questions?	04:13:47
	Mayor. Mayor Pro Tem.	04:13:48
	In Phase 2.	04:13:53
	In Phase 2.	04:13:55
	We the last mile.	04:13:58
	There's a program Last mile that goes to Wyoming Beach.	04:14:00
	Is any that factored in to in Phase 2?	04:14:03
	Because that was grant money from what I understand.	04:14:07
	There is not a current grant that the city has applied for. Part of the latter grant would be to.	04:14:10
	Take advantage of those grant opportunities.	04:14:16
	If we can identify a project.	04:14:19
	To actually develop and bring broadband Internet to the Winnipeg Beach Park.	04:14:23
	OK. And then has there been any?	04:14:29
	Private entities.	04:14:33
	Wanting to put S lights.	04:14:36
	Near the beach.	04:14:38
	You know.	04:14:40
	Near Bard because there's like really no reception in some of these areas.	04:14:42
	Yeah, and there's not been any.	04:14:46
	Entity that has come to the city asking for that outside of.	04:14:49
	The one cell tower that was placed at.	04:14:53
	The one you Bay.	04:14:56
	OK. Thank you.	04:14:58
	Any other questions? I have a just a quick question for Aaron. Aaron, thank you for all your work on this and staff was really	04:15:00
	good job and it's such an important.	04:15:05
	Element of.	04:15:10
	For us to be able to deliver.	04:15:11
	This kind of service to our community.	04:15:13
	You know I sit on V cog.	04:15:16
	And I hear about lots of.	04:15:18
	Different grant opportunities, but you're also on the advice on the.	04:15:20
	Subcommittee, right? Yes, for broadband. So you're getting all this information correct, OK.	04:15:24
	So I'm running to.	04:15:30
	To city manager whenever I hear a grant.	04:15:32
	But I, you know, I don't. I guess I don't need to do that if you're already.	04:15:34
	Getting that right.	04:15:39
	I'm participating if you have a different line of.	04:15:40
	Information that may be helpful to the city manager can pass along to me. I welcome the information. All right, Well, I'll just	04:15:45
	continue doing that and.	04:15:49
	Make sure it gets down to you. Thank you.	04:15:53
	Any other questions?	04:15:56
	If not, are there any public comments?	04:15:58
	No.	04:16:00
	Great. We have before us a recommendation to receive an update regarding the city's broadband Master plan and approved	04:16:02
	Recommended.	04:16:05
	Amendments to the plan resulting in the reduction of.	04:16:09
	Future project costs of approximately 4,293,000. They have a motion and a second to move.	04:16:12
	2nd.	04:16:20
	Any further discussion?	04:16:22
	If not, Madam Clerk, please take a roll call.	04:16:24
	All in favor.	04:16:27
	Aye, all opposed.	04:16:28
	Hearing none, motion passes unanimously.	04:16:30
	Great. Thank you. We'll move over now to our City Manager comments and reports.	04:16:33
	Thank you.	04:16:38
	I'm gonna try to keep them very quick.	04:16:40
	Where's the clicker? Yeah, OK.	04:16:43
	Thank you.	04:16:47
	All right. So quickly we have a few good news items we wanted to share and some recent happenings.	04:16:50
	Obviously the big one is we started the reopening of the Bubbling Springs Park.	04:16:57
	With a kickoff celebration with poor Wayne Amy Little League.	04:17:03
	On umm.	04:17:08
	April 12th.	04:17:10
	And so we wanted to just share some photos from that and remind the community that the baseball fields.	04:17:11
	Snack bar and umm uh.	04:17:19
	The exercise path with the exercise equipment. The dog parks.	04:17:22
	Are now.	04:17:28
	Open and then in the next couple of weeks the playground and the.	04:17:29
	Multi use fields will be coming online.	04:17:35
	As well.	04:17:38
	And so with that we want to do.	04:17:38
	Remind people Ned from the library.	04:17:41
	Attended earlier and announced it, but we wanted to give the reminder.	04:17:45
	That the library is planning their reopening with the unveiling of the city's first art project, a community mural, on May 3rd.	04:17:48
	And we're going to be announcing in the next couple of days that we're going to do.	04:17:56
	Sort of.	04:18:00
	Tour with a ribbon cutting.	04:18:02
	Just before that event.	04:18:04
	At some of the new items that are opening up at the park, so.	04:18:07
	We'll post that and invite everybody to join us for either the library, mural or park.	04:18:10
	Reopening on May 3rd.	04:18:17
	So additionally, we just wanted to highlight the same day we were doing the baseball field opening, we also.	04:18:21
	We're still continuing a.	04:18:26
	Tradition that we've had.	04:18:29
	Of the annual spring extravaganza.	04:18:31
	And there are several 100 people who attended and participated in the egg hunt.	04:18:34
	And other events. And so that was a great event at Miranda Park that.	04:18:40
	We expect you to continue on into the future.	04:18:45
	We also have two.	04:18:49
	Upcoming.	04:18:51
	Things to put on on your calendar One is mentioned earlier, the Arbor Day and Earth Day celebration by planting 3 coast Live Oak	04:18:53
	trees in Bulker Park will take place.	04:18:59
	This Wednesday at 11 AM.	04:19:04
	Again, that's at Bulker Park, even though we noted that we're also going to plant some, we're going to plant trees around the	04:19:07
	city.	04:19:10