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CALL TO ORDER / FLAG SALUTE/ ROLL CALL
INSPIRATION
PUBLIC COMMENT
AGENDA APPROVAL FOR CITY COUNCIL
PRESENTATIONS Item No. 1. BLACK HISTORY MONTH PROCLAMATION
PRESENTATIONS Item No. 2. MOTHER LANGUAGE DAY PROCLAMATION
PRESENTATIONS Item No. 3. INTRODUCTION OF POLICE DISPATCHER NIKKI SCOTTI
PRESENTATIONS Item No. 4. CITYWIDE TRAFFIC & PEDESTRIAN SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS UPDATE
CONSENT CALENDAR
PUBLIC HEARINGS Item No. 9. INTRODUCTION OF AN ORDINANCE AMENDING ARTICLES III AND IV OF THE PORT HUENEME MUNICIPAL CODE TO ALLOW FOR OFF-LEASH DOG ACTIVITY WITHIN A DESIGNATED AREA (THE “DOG PARK”) OF BUBBLING SPRINGS PARK
PUBLIC HEARINGS Item No. 10. PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER ADOPTION OF A RESOLUTION AMENDING RECREATION FEES IN THE MASTER FEE SCHEDULE
BUSINESS ITEMS 11. SHORT-TERM RENTAL REGULATORY OPTIONS
BUSINESS ITEMS 12. REQUEST FOR USE OF CITY RESOURCES IN SUPPORT OF REACH NONPROFIT’SPROGRAMS AND ACTIVITIES
CITY MANAGER COMMENTS AND REPORTS
COUNCILMEMBERS’ REPORTS AND COMMENTS
REQUEST FOR FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS
ADJOURNMENT

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	Good evening everyone. Welcome to the City Council regular meeting.	00:01:22
	I'm calling this meeting to order. The time is now 630.	00:01:26
	Please stand and join me for the flag salute.	00:01:31
	Ready again?	00:01:36
	I pledge allegiance to the flag.	00:01:38
	Of the United States of America.	00:01:40
	To the Republic for which it stands.	00:01:43
	One Nation.	00:01:46
	Indivisible with liberty and justice for all, Madam Clerk.	00:01:47
	Please take role.	00:01:57
	Councilmember Goma.	00:01:58
	Here, Councilmember Hernandez. Here Councilmember Perez.	00:02:00
	Here, Mayor Pro Tem Lopez here and Mayor McQueen Lejeune.	00:02:04
	Here Umm.	00:02:07
	We'll now move to the inspiration by Councilmember Hernandez. Thank you, Mayor. Good evening, everybody. For those of you who got	00:02:09
	here a little early and got to enjoy the music and the video entertainment.	00:02:15
	That was part of my inspiration.	00:02:22
	Hopefully it gave you an opportunity to kind of.	00:02:25
	Come in after your long day of.	00:02:28
	Wherever you were probably busy.	00:02:30
	In traffic.	00:02:32
	Gives you an opportunity to come here and just kind of decompress for a moment. Little social experiment.	00:02:34
	So.	00:02:40
	I'm going to talk just a little bit about music and how important it is for us as a society and and for myself personally.	00:02:42
	Music is a magical language that everyone can understand, no matter where they come from or what time they live.	00:02:51
	What time they leave?	00:02:58
	Or they live. It's been part of our lives for a long time and it's super important to us.	00:02:59
	It makes us feel all sorts of emotion, helps us remember where we come from, and brings us close to each other, whether it's a	00:03:06
	song that makes us feel happy.	00:03:10
	Or a tune that helps us relax.	00:03:15
	Music is like a special friend that always is there for us, making life brighter and more fun.	00:03:17
	It's like emotional language. It helps us express how we're feeling inside. It has this amazing power to affect our mood.	00:03:24
	Not only this, but music has a special way of triggering memories. When we hear a song from the past, it's like we're transported	00:03:31
	back in time.	00:03:35
	Music isn't just for fun either. It can also help us feel better when we're not doing so great.	00:03:41
	I've had to use music a lot this year.	00:03:46
	We can use music as a healing potion for our souls.	00:03:49
	Whether we're feeling sad or stressed out, music has this magical ability to soothe us and make us feel understood.	00:03:53
	It can even help us relax and sleep better at night, so next time you're feeling down.	00:04:00
	Just turn on some tunes and let the music work work its magic.	00:04:05
	Music Culture.	00:04:12
	Is super important because it shows who we are and where we come from. Every culture has its special music.	00:04:13
	That's been around for a long time, whether it's the lively beats.	00:04:19
	Of drums in Africa, the peaceful sounds of.	00:04:23
	Flutes from Native American tribes or the beautiful tunes of classical music in India. Each type of music tells a story about the	00:04:26
	people who make it.	00:04:30
	I wanted to umm. My selection of music tonight was in honor of Black Heritage Month.	00:04:37
	I but I really just thought I wanted to do something tonight that was going to.	00:04:44
	Take us a little way away from politics and.	00:04:49
	The chaos on the outside world, something that would bring us together. And I thought, music.	00:04:53
	Is something that we can all relate to.	00:04:58
	I think I've shared musical experiences with each one of the council members here we've.	00:05:02
	Danced we've I've listened to.	00:05:07
	Our mayor sing and acquire. I think all of us have a deep appreciation for music. It's something we all share.	00:05:10
	Together.	00:05:17
	So during these moments of enjoying music, we can forget about our differences. Enjoy.	00:05:20
	Music has as friends.	00:05:24
	And comrades.	00:05:28
	And music is where for me, we can find.	00:05:30
	Commonality and community.	00:05:33
	So that is my inspiration tonight. I don't know if I'll set a precedent here where we have music before the City Council meetings	00:05:35
	every month, but I'm going to give it a try. We'll see what happens after this.	00:05:41
	Thank you.	00:05:46
	Thank you, Councilmember. I don't, I don't know, but I think I would like it as well. I really enjoyed it, so thank you for that.	00:05:48
	So we're going to move on to public comments not pertaining to items on the agenda.	00:05:54
	Comments are limited to three minutes. This process will be the same for comments for items that are on the agenda.	00:06:00
	Madam Clerk.	00:06:06
	Does anyone have public comments tonight? Yes. First we have Becky Burning, followed by Jackie Cates.	00:06:07
	Good evening, Mayor, Mayor Pro Tem, council staff.	00:06:20
	And audience, I'm here representing Ro Guppy outdoors tonight.	00:06:24
	On Thursday night, we're having our third annual open house.	00:06:29
	4:30 to 6:00.	00:06:34
	We had appreciated if all of you would come join us.	00:06:36
	We're going to have hors d'oeuvres.	00:06:40
	And you can see exactly what it is we do with the kids.	00:06:42
	For Sunday of every month, we're out at the end of Winami Pier 8 to 11.	00:06:47
	Thanks, umm.	00:06:51
	Thank you.	00:06:54
	Jackie Cates.	00:06:55
	Good evening.	00:07:02
	I'm a resident Port Wayne Amy and I have like a specific question towards.	00:07:04
	Code enforcement.	00:07:09
	I'd like to know what the exact code is.	00:07:13
	For non operational vehicles on your property.	00:07:15
	And also registered non op.	00:07:19
	Vehicles on the street.	00:07:23
	Great city manager.	00:07:27
	So we aren't able to.	00:07:28
	Discuss items that aren't on the agenda. But what we can do is we have your contact information so we can have somebody reply to	00:07:30
	you with with information on that. OK, as I just I want to hear it from somebody up above.	00:07:35
	The code enforcement lady.	00:07:41
	Miss Jackson.	00:07:42
	OK, I feel that she picks and chooses her battles.	00:07:44
	And.	00:07:48
	You can tell that these people are totally.	00:07:49
	Dismantling vehicles.	00:07:53
	Every day, Every night.	00:07:55
	And I was outside when she told the gentleman one time to.	00:07:57
	Just close the clothes. Make sure those two clothes hoods are closed.	00:08:01
	And also make sure you cover up that truck back there.	00:08:05
	None of these vehicles run.	00:08:09
	I see them pushing them in and out of the yard on.	00:08:13
	St. Sweeper days.	00:08:16
	Then they leave the car, sit on the grass for two or three days.	00:08:17
	So thank you. OK. So we'll have somebody contact you with some information.	00:08:20
	That concludes public comment.	00:08:26
	Thank you. We're going to move on to agenda approval for the City Council. May I have a motion and a second to approve the agenda?	00:08:28
	Move to approve.	00:08:35
	2nd.	00:08:37
	All in favor.	00:08:39
	Aye, all opposed.	00:08:40
	Hearing none, motion passes unanimously.	00:08:42
	Right. Thank you.	00:08:45
	Now, do any members have of Council have any conflicts of interest to disclose for any of the agenda items?	00:08:46
	OK, we're going to move on to our presentations.	00:08:58
	For our first presentation, I'd like to call up Doctor IVA Jeffries.	00:09:02
	On behalf of the Martin Luther King Junior Committee.	00:09:07
	And while she is making her way up.	00:09:10
	I will read the proclamation.	00:09:12
	Black History Month, February 2025.	00:09:16
	Whereas much of the city of Port Hueneme honor strength and dedication.	00:09:20
	Can be attributed to.	00:09:24
	The diversity of culture and traditions that are celebrated by our residents and whereas African Americans have played a	00:09:26
	significant role in the history of our nation and California's economic.	00:09:32
	Culture.	00:09:38
	Spiritual and political development while working tirelessly to promote their culture and history.	00:09:39
	And whereas as a result of their determination, hard work and perseverance.	00:09:45
	African Americans have made valuable and lasting contributions to our community.	00:09:50
	And our state.	00:09:55
	Achieving exceptional success in All Access.	00:09:57
	Aspects of society, including business.	00:10:00
	Education.	00:10:03
	Politics. Science.	00:10:04
	And the arts.	00:10:06
	And whereas.	00:10:08
	In 1976, Black History Month was formally adopted to honor and affirm the importance of Black history throughout our American	00:10:09
	experience.	00:10:13
	And is full of individuals who took a stance against prejudice.	00:10:18
	Advance the cause of civil rights.	00:10:23
	Strengthened families, communities, and our nation.	00:10:26
	And whereas.	00:10:30
	All Americans are encouraged to reflect.	00:10:31
	On past successes and challenges of African Americans and look to the future to improve society so that we live up to the ideals	00:10:33
	of freedom.	00:10:38
	Equality and justice.	00:10:43
	Now therefore be it proclaimed that the City Council of the City of Port Hueneme does hereby proclaim the month of February, 2025.	00:10:45
	As Black History Month.	00:10:54
	And invites everyone to celebrate the diversity.	00:10:56
	And character.	00:10:59
	Of our community.	00:11:00
	And highlight the importance of sharing our culture.	00:11:02
	Customs and traditions with those around us.	00:11:05
	Proclaimed this 18th day of February.	00:11:08
	2025.	00:11:11
	Would you like to have a couple of words at all?	00:11:14
	Speak into the microphone.	00:11:19
	I have been a member of the Martin Luther King Junior Committee.	00:11:23
	Since it started.	00:11:27
	Over 37 years I believe.	00:11:29
	And it's a pleasure to be a part of the committee.	00:11:32
	And we want to thank all the community of Ventura County.	00:11:35
	For their participation, their attendance and their support.	00:11:41
	It's a pleasure to.	00:11:45
	Put on this.	00:11:47
	Program every year.	00:11:49
	We try to highly highlight young people in the community.	00:11:50
	And celebrate music, of course.	00:11:55
	It's always a big part of the program.	00:11:58
	So we look forward to doing this every year.	00:12:00
	And it's been a pleasure to be a part of the Community committee.	00:12:03
	Whole winter county.	00:12:08
	As we all know, Reverend Doctor Martin Luther King was.	00:12:11
	Great man in my opinion.	00:12:14
	At that did a lot for.	00:12:16
	US all in the United States.	00:12:19
	So we just take that day once a year to honor him.	00:12:21
	And we're just happy to do that.	00:12:25
	Thank you. Thank you. I'm gonna ask you for one more thing. There's a great event happening this Saturday.	00:12:27
	Will you tell us about it because it ties into the MLK?	00:12:33
	Event where we have the youth to do the speech, yes.	00:12:36
	Every year we.	00:12:41
	Have the winner of our last year's speech exposition.	00:12:43
	The Alpha Kappa Alpha sorority.	00:12:47
	Presents it in the last Saturday of Black History Month.	00:12:50
	And we have the speech exposition and the winner of that each year.	00:12:55
	Becomes the speaker for the MLK day following year.	00:13:01
	So you're all invited to that. It's a great event.	00:13:06
	We have.	00:13:10
	5th and 6th graders from.	00:13:12
	The elementary schools in the Oxnard district.	00:13:14
	And they present their speeches and we have one.	00:13:17
	1st place winner.	00:13:21
	And it's always.	00:13:23
	A wonderful event.	00:13:25
	And it's my sorority that puts it on and.	00:13:27
	Mayor Martha is a member of sorority, too.	00:13:31
	So we enjoy putting on that.	00:13:35
	Program.	00:13:38
	Hope you can all be a part of that that Saturday at 1:00.	00:13:39
	At Thurgood Marshall Elementary School.	00:13:43
	So be great to see you there.	00:13:46
	It's a wonderful event.	00:13:49
	Yes, thank you for reminding me.	00:13:51
	Stand on my tip toes.	00:14:08
	8123.	00:14:11
	I'm going to take a quick liberty.	00:14:28
	So just in case you didn't.	00:14:30
	Get it?	00:14:31
	On 3rd at Thurgood Marshall this Saturday, the top 20 children from the 20 elementary schools in the Oxnard School District will	00:14:32
	be presenting their speeches.	00:14:37
	And the winner of that speech?	00:14:42
	Will only be 1 winner.	00:14:44
	Will be presenting their speech at next year's MLK event, Ventura County event. So you don't want to miss it. I know	00:14:46
	Councilmember.	00:14:50
	Gama had an opportunity to go, so it's really good if you want to see the children's present.	00:14:54
	Thank you. Now back to business.	00:15:01
	OK.	00:15:05
	So the next presentation we have is we'll call up Matthew Vestu.	00:15:07
	Sudo and if you have others with you, you can bring them up as well.	00:15:12
	And then we're going to have Councilmember Perez.	00:15:17
	To read the proclamation.	00:15:21
	Thank you.	00:15:22
	And Mr. Vestudo is the chairman of the Venturino Barbarino Mission Indians, Ventura County. And who do we have with us?	00:15:23
	Your guest.	00:15:31
	Aku Santanat as a Lopez.	00:15:33
	Haku Haku.	00:15:36
	Some tenant melopo.	00:15:38
	Welcome, I'll read the proclamation.	00:15:40
	International Mothers Mother Language Day, February 21st, 2025.	00:15:42
	Whereas language is a complex form of communication consisting of sounds, words, grammar and nonverbal expressions.	00:15:47
	It is conveyed through spoken, written and visual means, reflecting the cultural richness and diversity of the human experience.	00:15:55
	And whereas language vary across the globe.	00:16:02
	By country, region and culture.	00:16:06
	And one's native language, often referred to as a mother language or mother tongue, is the foundation of cultural identity and	00:16:08
	heritage.	00:16:12
	And whereas certain languages and dialects.	00:16:16
	Are fading or disappearing.	00:16:20
	Resulting in the loss of unique customs, shared memories and cultural knowledge.	00:16:21
	Nearly half of the world's eight.	00:16:26
	1300 plus languages are endangered.	00:16:28
	With roughly one language vanishing every two weeks.	00:16:31
	And WHEREAS, February 21st has been recognized as International Mother Language Day to promote the preservation and protection of	00:16:35
	all languages, fostering linguistic and cultural diversity.	00:16:41
	The 25th anniversary of this observance marks 1/4 century of dedicated efforts to safeguard linguistic heritage.	00:16:47
	Emphasizing the critical role of language in protecting culture identity, advancing education, and cultivating more peaceful	00:16:54
	societies.	00:16:58
	And WHEREAS, the global observance of International Mother Language Day serves as a reminder of the value of linguistic diversity	00:17:02
	and the need to protect and promote language as essential tools for communication, cultural expression and unity.	00:17:10
	And whereas the city of Port Hueneme is home to a proud and diverse community, reflecting a wide range of languages from around	00:17:17
	the world that enrich our cities cultural fabric.	00:17:22
	Now therefore be it proclaim that the City Council of the City of Port Hueneme does hereby proclaim February 21st, 2025 as	00:17:27
	International Mother's Language Day.	00:17:32
	Would you like to say a few words?	00:17:39
	Waya waya.	00:17:46
	Some tenet master he Nah Mama some tenet sakuta show it Casila Matthew Vestudo.	00:17:48
	No ang chumash casila clue lapin.	00:17:55
	Kasuna swachhas limuka.	00:18:01
	That's why I had chic Bush, Edie.	00:18:04
	Aparnashmuppu.	00:18:07
	Greetings, my name is my Indian name is Sakuta show it and my English name is Matthew Vestudo and.	00:18:10
	I'm Chumash or Lulopian and grateful to be here. My family comes from Scorpions Anchorage, ON.	00:18:18
	Santa Cruz Island.	00:18:24
	And I'm very happy to be here in the.	00:18:26
	City of Wanimi, which is Apanash.	00:18:29
	When atma which is sleeping place.	00:18:33
	And it's a it's a wonderful place to be and.	00:18:36
	We're very grateful for your support for our native languages, and I'd also like to make a mention.	00:18:40
	Of other.	00:18:46
	Languages which probably have a lot more speakers than us, but are also minority languages here in our county and area.	00:18:47
	The languages of Micheko and Purepacha.	00:18:54
	And what?	00:18:57
	And just I was hoping some of their.	00:18:59
	Representatives could come with me to receive this because it isn't.	00:19:02
	Just too much it's.	00:19:06
	Mother languages around the world.	00:19:07
	I just wanted to thank you guys also.	00:19:12
	Thank you so much.	00:19:18
	Thank you.	00:19:20
	1/2.	00:19:37
	3.	00:19:39
	Thank you.	00:19:44
	Thank you.	00:19:50
	All right. We're going to move to our item number three. We are now going to turn it over to our police chief.	00:19:58
	Chief Federico.	00:20:04
	Good evening everyone. I'm here tonight to present to you your newest.	00:20:12
	Port waiting me police dispatcher.	00:20:16
	Nikki Scottie.	00:20:19
	Thank you. Do you want to come?	00:20:20
	Stand up here next to me, willing.	00:20:22
	So Nikki was born and raised in San Pedro, CA.	00:20:26
	And as the youngest of six children.	00:20:29
	She became a mother to her two sons, Christian, Andrew, very young.	00:20:31
	In her life.	00:20:35
	But she always knew they were the biggest blessings she would ever receive.	00:20:36
	She still calls them her son and Moon.	00:20:40
	As they are essential to her world.	00:20:43
	That you began a career in hospitality management as soon as she realized how much she loved customer service.	00:20:46
	In fact, creating extraordinary experiences and helping others see just like that just turn to say bless you because that she does	00:20:52
	creates extraordinary experience. It's all about.	00:20:57
	Customer service, in fact, creating extraordinary experiences and helping others and is a passion of hers.	00:21:02
	When COVID struck, she redirected her focus. Focus. She decided she wanted to focus her efforts on helping people in a different	00:21:08
	way.	00:21:12
	And wanted to work in public safety.	00:21:16
	It's a calling for many.	00:21:19
	Got that Calling.	00:21:21
	She moved to Rio Rancho, NM with her family and it was there where she applied to be an emergency dispatcher.	00:21:23
	She completed her Academy, receiving her Public Safety 901 dispatcher certification as well as Emergency Medical Dispatcher	00:21:33
	certification.	00:21:36
	And began dispatching for the city of Rio Rancho and Sandoval counties.	00:21:41
	Police, fire and EMS.	00:21:46
	Her heart for helping those around her was not going unnoticed, as she soon was assigned as the very first mentor to the new	00:21:48
	mentorship program.	00:21:53
	At that agency.	00:21:57
	With this role, she was now assisting and supporting new recruits as well as completing training.	00:22:00
	And serving as an active member of that agency's peer support team.	00:22:06
	With her boys now grown, Nikki returned to school to complete something she started so long ago. She attended college around her	00:22:12
	work hours and obtained her associate's degree in criminology.	00:22:17
	As well as an Associates of applied science.	00:22:23
	And integrated studies.	00:22:25
	A sociology degree and a general studies certification.	00:22:27
	Nikki told me.	00:22:32
	When she moved back to California in September of 2024.	00:22:34
	She knew she wanted to continue dispatching.	00:22:37
	What was determined to find an agency that.	00:22:40
	Would be a perfect fit for her.	00:22:44
	She was absolutely thrilled when the Portland Police Department extended a job offer to her.	00:22:47
	She was confident.	00:22:51
	This is where she wanted to stay.	00:22:53
	Nikki feels honored to work alongside such amazing, skilled and passionate professionals.	00:22:56
	Who share the same vision for their community that she does.	00:23:01
	She's excited to be a part of a team.	00:23:04
	And where's the name? City of Port Oneimi proudly.	00:23:06
	I have to tell you, just like police officers.	00:23:09
	Agencies are in demand for.	00:23:12
	For dispatchers and police officers, so.	00:23:14
	When people choose to come here and they get their choice of cities to work for.	00:23:19
	It it just it.	00:23:23
	It should make you all proud.	00:23:24
	To be part of.	00:23:26
	The bigger picture of the city so.	00:23:27
	And in the short time she's been here so far and in training and impressing.	00:23:30
	Her trainer, one of our.	00:23:34
	Most tenured and experienced trainers. Lynette, who's here today.	00:23:36
	Has been very impressed with her skills and abilities.	00:23:39
	But her personality too is winning over the crew, as you can tell just from her background so.	00:23:42
	Folks, let me introduce you to.	00:23:48
	Your new dispatcher.	00:23:50
	Nikki Scotty.	00:23:51
	Thank you so much.	00:23:56
	Great, anyone?	00:23:58
	Have any words where you fit? Were you done?	00:24:00
	Chief. OK, great.	00:24:03
	Councilmember Perez, thank you. Welcome, Nikki, to the City of Porto enemy. You know, my husband has been with the agency for 30	00:24:04
	years. Sergeant Perez.	00:24:08
	So I know a lot about what the.	00:24:12
	Dispatchers have to go through having sat and dispatched and seen what they do.	00:24:15
	You guys are amazing. You don't get enough credit for what you do. You don't get enough appreciation and mention in the things	00:24:20
	that you do. You are also first responders so and we appreciate everything that you do without you and your ability to do your job	00:24:25
	appropriately.	00:24:29
	Our officers can't get what they need in order to do their job, so we thank you for choosing Winimi and we we appreciate your	00:24:34
	service and we appreciate your family's service as well.	00:24:39
	Did us to everything you just said, but yeah, thank you for choosing the city of Port Hueneme. As you can tell, I don't know how	00:24:46
	long you've been in our city, but we are very.	00:24:50
	Unique.	00:24:54
	You have to really want to come here, to be here.	00:24:55
	And having you select our city and that's select you is.	00:24:58
	It's just a match made in heaven.	00:25:02
	And we really look forward to a long career here in the city of Port Hueneme, So thank you.	00:25:04
	Welcome, Nikki. Glad you're here.	00:25:12
	I've worked with law enforcement for over 30 years and I know how difficult it is to feel that position of dispatcher your.	00:25:15
	Highly desired. It's it's a tough job and I just want you to know that.	00:25:23
	I appreciate you and the rest of the dispatch team and I wish you well and I know that you.	00:25:29
	Based on what we've heard, you're going to do a great job. Congratulations and welcome to Fort Winnie Me.	00:25:34
	Sounds like you hit the ground running there, Nikki, so that is awesome.	00:25:43
	And you get to break in our new dispatch office when that thing opens, so.	00:25:48
	That's exciting.	00:25:53
	But thank you. Thank you for choosing Port Wineemi and we look.	00:25:56
	You know, forward to your many years of service here and.	00:26:01
	Giving service to our community. Thank you.	00:26:03
	Picking us?	00:26:06
	Great. And what everyone else said also would like to say, you know, it's really good to hear our Chief when he reads up on the	00:26:08
	folks, new folks that we have here.	00:26:13
	He uses words like.	00:26:18
	They're happy to be here.	00:26:20
	It's a perfect match.	00:26:21
	You know what we have to offer is in alignment with what?	00:26:23
	The the new person needs and so.	00:26:26
	We at least we know there's commonality in that.	00:26:29
	And that's a great start. So we're so glad that you're here and looking forward to all the good work you're going to do for us.	00:26:32
	Thank you so much.	00:26:37
	Good. Yeah, I gotta go up my tip toes.	00:26:53
	123.	00:26:56
	123.	00:27:04
	1/2.	00:27:08
	All right, so we're going to move on to our presentation #4.	00:27:27
	We're going to go to our city manager.	00:27:31
	Thank you. Yes, and.	00:27:34
	I'm going to introduce Fred Camarillo, our Public Works Director, who will be taking us through an update related to traffic and	00:27:37
	pedestrian safety improvements.	00:27:41
	Last year we had done several.	00:27:48
	We'd had several discussions about some measures we were implementing about traffic and pedestrian safety and we had said.	00:27:51
	We come back and do some periodic status updates on.	00:27:57
	How those were working and so we wanted to do one of those today.	00:28:02
	Talking about some of the recent improvements, but also some of the things that we have in progress. So with that, I'll turn it	00:28:07
	over to Fred Camarillo, our Public Works Director.	00:28:11
	Good evening, Mayor.	00:28:17
	Mayor Pro Tem, members of the council and of the audience.	00:28:18
	Several of these things that are on this presentation are things that you've previously heard about before, but we.	00:28:24
	Also mentioned that we would be bringing these back to you.	00:28:30
	To recap.	00:28:33
	What we've seen, what we've learned.	00:28:35
	And.	00:28:37
	Bring you up to speed on what's happening.	00:28:39
	This is just the.	00:28:44
	Cover slide here that talks about some of the things that you're going to see.	00:28:48
	And the rest of the presentation.	00:28:51
	Umm, with that, all that.	00:28:55
	Just go on to that. So this first item.	00:28:56
	Is pedestrian safety.	00:28:59
	Back in September of last year.	00:29:02
	We did some measures out on Surfside Drive.	00:29:05
	With the rectangular rapid flashing beacons.	00:29:08
	Which is that top picture there? It's the sign with.	00:29:11
	If you've driven by them, you see it where it's.	00:29:16
	A flashing.	00:29:18
	Quickly flashing light to alert.	00:29:20
	Motorists that there's someone that's going to be crossing the street.	00:29:23
	So we installed that.	00:29:28
	Out right out by Surfside One.	00:29:30
	And further down, over by the curve on Surfside, down by surfside, three there.	00:29:33
	That lower picture is.	00:29:39
	A different.	00:29:41
	Sign that identifies for traffic coming by that there is a crosswalk there.	00:29:43
	And to be mindful that there are pedestrians that could be crossing.	00:29:48
	Umm, some other things that we did.	00:29:53
	Which umm.	00:29:55
	Mr. Gamma.	00:29:56
	Was the.	00:29:58
	Lead on was to reflect yourself campaign so.	00:30:00
	That's something else that not directly done with our public Works staff or.	00:30:05
	Or PD.	00:30:10
	But it was another thing that was implemented.	00:30:12
	With the items that we have up there, we.	00:30:15
	Had a very good response.	00:30:18
	There were.	00:30:21
	Several people that live down on the beach area that were.	00:30:22
	Concerned about speed?	00:30:25
	On Surfside Drive and we.	00:30:28
	Have seen less and less complaints as time has gone by so.	00:30:31
	Umm, we're thinking that that's something that is.	00:30:36
	Being well received.	00:30:39
	Here is the Panoma street signs and May of last year the council approved an 18 month pilot program.	00:30:44
	We had some complaints, several complaints on Panoma where?	00:30:52
	Speed was an issue.	00:30:57
	That area also had a couple of different items. Parking was.	00:31:00
	An issue as well.	00:31:04
	Some of that also is with because we had red curb in some locations.	00:31:06
	Umm, so there was.	00:31:12
	Speed. Line of sight issues.	00:31:15
	So council authorized for us to go ahead and put stop signs there on the locations listed.	00:31:18
	That also has been working out very well.	00:31:25
	We haven't received any complaints out of the area with the stop signs Which?	00:31:28
	Now stops traffic.	00:31:33
	But uh.	00:31:35
	We also haven't.	00:31:36
	Had any accidents?	00:31:37
	Out there.	00:31:39
	It's something that hasn't caused confusion.	00:31:41
	For our residents by putting those in place.	00:31:44
	And then this project will go ahead and.	00:31:49
	Be done well, the pilot portion of it will be done in November of this year.	00:31:52
	And at that time, that's something that we can evaluate between now and then.	00:31:56
	To see if there's anything that does come up that.	00:32:01
	Would warrant that maybe we look at something different or?	00:32:04
	We go ahead and council can determine that they'd like to leave those in place permanently.	00:32:09
	The speed cushion program.	00:32:18
	We've had that policy.	00:32:20
	Had adopted by the Council in 2023.	00:32:23
	We have the policy.	00:32:27
	And the requirements for it listed on the city web page and our public works page.	00:32:29
	Since this was adopted, we've had eight requests.	00:32:35
	You can see down below there that there's six locations that.	00:32:39
	Have received them so far.	00:32:44
	Some of those come with.	00:32:47
	Other things that need to be done on the left hand side. There you'll see.	00:32:51
	That's data that our Police Department, they have.	00:32:54
	Access to they put out.	00:32:57
	A speed survey which counts and monitors traffic and the speed.	00:32:59
	Which they're traveling in certain locations.	00:33:03
	That one happened to be for.	00:33:06
	Someone that had requested out in the Pacific Cove.	00:33:08
	Area and.	00:33:12
	You'll see on there how many vehicles passed by in that seven day total, what the average speed was what?	00:33:14
	The highest speed was.	00:33:21
	And what?	00:33:23
	Citation levels would have been.	00:33:24
	And I believe it was.	00:33:27
	Want less than one?	00:33:28
	.04% of all.	00:33:31
	Trips that went across that.	00:33:34
	Location would have.	00:33:35
	Been cited.	00:33:37
	But we do still go ahead and accept them. As a matter of fact, this this morning we had one additional one on Joyce.	00:33:40
	Between essentially the end of Joyce Drive all the way to J Street so.	00:33:48
	We'll take a look at that.	00:33:52
	And fit that against the requirements for the policy and if it's warranted and.	00:33:53
	There's other.	00:33:59
	Things that.	00:34:01
	Requester needs to do.	00:34:03
	Which, you know, filling out a survey and getting.	00:34:05
	The neighboring residents to also.	00:34:08
	Want to go ahead and move forward with that. So we're with that again that just came out this morning, so.	00:34:13
	We'll be taking a look at that as well.	00:34:18
	Speed Study.	00:34:23
	As you'll recall, in October of 23 we went through.	00:34:24
	A whole you authorize a study. We looked at all of that.	00:34:28
	Our traffic engineer.	00:34:32
	Made recommendations for speed limit changes.	00:34:34
	There were 12.	00:34:37
	That were.	00:34:39
	Listed that were recommended to be changed, all lowering speed limits for.	00:34:40
	Pedestrian safety.	00:34:45
	And you see them listed there on the left hand side with some of the bigger ones, the bigger streets, Patterson, Victoria and	00:34:47
	Channel Islands there on the right.	00:34:51
	That Channel Islands westbound.	00:34:55
	Typo. It should be reversed. We didn't raise any speed limits when we did any of this, so.	00:34:57
	And since then, since we've done all this, we did give a three month.	00:35:04
	Grace period.	00:35:08
	We put out.	00:35:10
	Messages.	00:35:12
	Saying the message boards on our city websites.	00:35:13
	Letting everybody know there's new speed limits in these areas. Be aware.	00:35:17
	We're giving you time to adjust, but know that.	00:35:21
	After the state, you will be cited if you're.	00:35:24
	You're caught speeding so.	00:35:28
	It seems to be doing well. We have again we were receiving.	00:35:30
	Quite a few complaints about.	00:35:35
	High speed.	00:35:37
	Across the city and since.	00:35:38
	We've done.	00:35:41
	Things like all the others and this.	00:35:42
	It seems to have drastically reduced the.	00:35:45
	Complaints that we we.	00:35:48
	We are receiving.	00:35:49
	Surfside Drive, The rubberized median down there. Umm.	00:35:53
	We again.	00:35:58
	This was a pilot program that was approved in July of 24.	00:36:00
	We've got them installed in August.	00:36:04
	The complaint there, as you can see in that top photo, was.	00:36:07
	Cars going around and doing their Donuts.	00:36:11
	In that intersection.	00:36:15
	Creating a lot of havoc.	00:36:17
	So we got those placed down. They seem to have worked very well, the complaints in that.	00:36:19
	Particular area.	00:36:25
	Which extends about.	00:36:26
	300 feet to.	00:36:29
	The East.	00:36:30
	South, if you want to say that.	00:36:32
	Has stopped.	00:36:36
	That problem in that area, but we have noticed that.	00:36:39
	Where that ends?	00:36:42
	We've noticed some other areas that have.	00:36:45
	Have picked up where people are deciding to try and perform those things, even including our beach parking lot so.	00:36:47
	Again, this is a pilot project. It's something that we're looking at it obviously.	00:36:54
	Worked here because of the number of complaints and even though we've noticed at other places we haven't received the same.	00:36:58
	Amount of complaints that we were receiving down there.	00:37:04
	And our city manager actually was interviewed by, I think it was ABC, right?	00:37:07
	After that interview.	00:37:15
	We got.	00:37:17
	Several requests through the city manager's office from other agencies wanting to know what we use, where did we get it, how much	00:37:18
	does it cost.	00:37:22
	And.	00:37:26
	We believe several of the other agencies that contacted us have ended up trying something like this as well, so.	00:37:27
	It's worked out well.	00:37:34
	Designated truck routes enforcement.	00:37:38
	We were working with PD.	00:37:41
	On that, they're they're trying to make sure that we didn't have trucks going off.	00:37:44
	Truck designated truck routes, which are the red lines in that map.	00:37:49
	One of the things that was causing a complication was the city of Oxnard's truck route.	00:37:54
	Map showed that.	00:38:00
	Pleasant Valley from J Street through Ventura Rd. was a designated truck route, so it made it.	00:38:01
	Difficult.	00:38:08
	It's not impossible for our PD to cite.	00:38:09
	On that section of Pleasant Valley Rd. Because if.	00:38:12
	Do that then.	00:38:15
	They could be challenged so.	00:38:16
	We've reached out to the city of Oxnard and they went through their process and cooperated with us and.	00:38:18
	Updated their maps.	00:38:25
	Which?	00:38:27
	Allowed it RPD to now go ahead and enforce in that section of the road.	00:38:29
	Very, very important in this area because.	00:38:37
	On Pleasant Valley there we have Bart Elementary School, so you have large trucks going over there by the elementary school.	00:38:41
	And not being a designated truck route, the road isn't designed to handle that kind of traffic load. So where's the roads down?	00:38:47
	Sooner than they should be so.	00:38:55
	That seems to be working out very well too. I know I spoke to Sergeant Bates about it. He was all excited once this map got	00:38:58
	updated because.	00:39:03
	That gave him the ability to start.	00:39:07
	Doing what he.	00:39:10
	He and his group.	00:39:12
	We're seeing happening over there insight on that section.	00:39:13
	San Pedro, as you all know, we had problems with.	00:39:18
	Again, line of sight, speed and lack of parking.	00:39:24
	A lot of this stuff also came about even more.	00:39:30
	Beginning from January of.	00:39:34
	Last year, when the daylighting law became.	00:39:36
	A law that was meant to be for this first year, the first year of 2024, is more of a.	00:39:39
	Public education.	00:39:47
	Rather than enforcement, which enforcement was.	00:39:49
	Starting in January 1st of this year.	00:39:52
	But we.	00:39:55
	Worked with the Navy base.	00:39:56
	And.	00:39:59
	Got their buy in. Council approved removing the parking restriction on that on that side there of San Pedro that that borders the	00:40:00
	Navy fence line.	00:40:05
	We also.	00:40:12
	One of the requests from the Navy was that we.	00:40:13
	Pass an ordinance that.	00:40:18
	Limited oversized vehicles so they would not park there.	00:40:20
	So it would be less of a security risk.	00:40:24
	And we did that. Well, you did that.	00:40:26
	And we've.	00:40:30
	Received.	00:40:32
	Very few complaints about anything, everybody.	00:40:33
	Seems to be liking the ability to park.	00:40:36
	Over there creates a lot more.	00:40:39
	Space for them.	00:40:42
	So that seems to be going really well.	00:40:44
	One of the things that did.	00:40:47
	Happen with that though, as we allowed parking there, people were saying that people were kind of.	00:40:49
	Using that as a dumping spot for litter.	00:40:54
	So we did.	00:40:57
	End up putting some no littering signs over there.	00:40:58
	And monitoring that.	00:41:00
	It seems to be.	00:41:03
	Not as big of an issue.	00:41:05
	The dedicated left turn signal on westbound Winnemi at Ventura.	00:41:10
	That had come up a few years ago.	00:41:16
	And at that time it was looked at.	00:41:19
	And it was determined.	00:41:22
	And that analysis that a dedicated left turn signal?	00:41:24
	Was not warranted at that time, but there were some other.	00:41:29
	Things that were mentioned as follow-ups that could be done.	00:41:33
	If budget permitted it and we.	00:41:37
	We went ahead and followed up with that which was a.	00:41:41
	Traffic count essentially turning movement analysis.	00:41:45
	The engineer conduct our traffic engineer conducted that study.	00:41:49
	And it.	00:41:54
	Indicated that.	00:41:56
	Based on the information that it wasn't recommended.	00:41:58
	Or required based on.	00:42:02
	The traffic counts at that.	00:42:04
	Point.	00:42:06
	However, I mean it's also something that can be looked at.	00:42:08
	We asked him for a very preliminary number of if we wanted to do that.	00:42:13
	What would that take?	00:42:18
	And he gave us an estimate of changing because it's not as simple as just adding an end piece.	00:42:19
	The pole, it's a replacement of an entire pole and sequencing things and doing all that so.	00:42:25
	He gave us an estimated cost of about $300,000 to.	00:42:32
	Change that.	00:42:36
	We as a staff.	00:42:40
	At this point wouldn't recommend it because it's not warranted under two different things, but of course.	00:42:42
	Will be visiting the budget soon and that is something that the Council can.	00:42:46
	Go ahead and decide that something that they would still like to further pursue.	00:42:52
	And at that point, we can, we can plan.	00:42:56
	I'll stop there for a minute and ask you if you have any questions on any of this stuff.	00:43:06
	So far.	00:43:10
	I do on the 2nd update regarding Panoma.	00:43:12
	Where you had you added the stop signs and removed the red curbs. I imagine because of the new law taking effect you had to put	00:43:16
	the red curve back.	00:43:19
	No, no.	00:43:23
	It doesn't apply. Well, you don't.	00:43:24
	Red curb isn't required for that, so no parking is. No parking is still in effect.	00:43:27
	OK. At the time we did that though to one of the things that we're looking at because we have the bus stop.	00:43:33
	That goes down Panoma.	00:43:38
	And we had reached out to Gold Coast to see whether or not that was an option that.	00:43:40
	To reroute or do something different.	00:43:47
	At that time they said no, they didn't want to do it.	00:43:50
	We've since learned more recently.	00:43:53
	That they want to now go ahead and remove that. And if so, then we could remove all the red curb that is out there that's	00:43:55
	dedicated for.	00:44:00
	The bus route, so that would open up even more parking in that area, so.	00:44:05
	And one additional question which I just heard I learned about, I did not know.	00:44:10
	Truck routes. The road is paved differently.	00:44:15
	Than regular roads they're designed for.	00:44:18
	Carrying the heavier truckloads. I mean, it makes sense, I just never thought about it, but I guess it totally makes sense.	00:44:22
	Thank you. I don't have any further questions.	00:44:28
	O the red line.	00:44:31
	Stops on Ventura Road and Channel Islands.	00:44:33
	Goes to Victoria for the truck route, correct?	00:44:36
	Let me go back to that.	00:44:42
	Yeah, that was it.	00:44:46
	Nope.	00:44:48
	One more.	00:44:51
	Wrong way.	00:44:58
	That one.	00:45:03
	So what I noticed is we have a lot of trucks that I think they think it's a.	00:45:05
	Saves them time, but the banana trucks coming off the port, they head down Ventura Rd.	00:45:11
	To deliver their container.	00:45:17
	To the Second Street Bridge area. So does this.	00:45:21
	Does that mean that they shouldn't be going down into a road past shadow islands?	00:45:25
	That, well, that's where it picks up into the Oxnards truck route. This is our city truck route here, so Oxnard's.	00:45:31
	Route continues from that point.	00:45:40
	I think they go down Winemi Rd.	00:45:43
	No, not all of them.	00:45:45
	Where that the red ends at Venturian Islands. That only ends because that's where our city artisans. Yes, but the but Oxnard, the	00:45:47
	rest of Ventura Rd. is an Oxnard truck route.	00:45:52
	So then my question is, is so is it this?	00:45:58
	Suggested route for the ban.	00:46:01
	To go down Wineemi Road to the rice connection into.	00:46:04
	That would be there's.	00:46:10
	Those options, somebody could go down when Amy Rd. or they can go down Ventura Rd. So it's not a requirement to go down Wynnie Rd.	00:46:13
	Not a requirement.	00:46:21
	Yeah, they're not. It's not that they're specifically told that here's the only way you can get to your destination.	00:46:22
	But they're on a truck route.	00:46:27
	Here's your options.	00:46:30
	Yeah. And then?	00:46:31
	Yeah, because I thought the rice connection was built to aid the port traffic. That's what I thought.	00:46:34
	I heard. But anyways moving on.	00:46:40
	So an area that I notice and.	00:46:43
	Know maybe I shouldn't bring it up, but I'm going to.	00:46:45
	The right hand turn.	00:46:49
	On Ventura Road to Surfside Drive.	00:46:52
	It's a non-stop.	00:46:55
	And I do see.	00:46:57
	Close calls there every now and then where people are not using the crosswalk and crossing the street and then a car is making a	00:46:59
	right turn as the traffic study ever looked at that?	00:47:04
	Not that I'm aware of.	00:47:11
	Do you know people look at that? No. Yeah, I was just.	00:47:13
	Maybe as the beach gets really busy I I I could.	00:47:17
	I see people that.	00:47:21
	Don't go to the crosswalk and then they cross the street and then a car comes and doesn't have to stop. And it's been.	00:47:23
	Something that I've noticed from time to time, but.	00:47:30
	And it's something that we can certainly take a look at.	00:47:33
	And I do appreciate.	00:47:36
	All the effort that has been taken to try to.	00:47:38
	Communicate to pedestrians and the pedestrians are listening out there.	00:47:42
	Reflect yourself.	00:47:46
	Or some colorful clothes. Why does everybody wear dark clothes I don't get.	00:47:48
	Anyone else?	00:47:53
	Back over to you.	00:47:56
	All right, so you gotta go the right direction this time.	00:47:58
	So some things we have coming up.	00:48:05
	We applied for a SCAG grant for some more RRFBS out on Hemlock St. you can see identified there.	00:48:08
	And we were told in December that we were awarded.	00:48:17
	$70,000 for that project.	00:48:21
	So we'll be able to work in conjunction with the city of Oxnard, who wrote us a support letter, as well as the Oxnard School	00:48:23
	District wrote us a support letter for that project.	00:48:27
	Important for.	00:48:34
	Us, because we have.	00:48:35
	That section just South of Hemlock, those children that live in that area go across the street to school.	00:48:38
	So that will be not only a benefit to.	00:48:46
	The general residence in there, but also for the children that are walking across the street, attending school over there, so.	00:48:50
	Umm, we.	00:48:57
	We're waiting to hear you'll have an item coming back to you too. We need to.	00:49:00
	Have the Council approve a resolution.	00:49:04
	For acceptance of that, but we're waiting on them to get us the draft language for that. And so we'll be bringing that to you	00:49:07
	probably next month or maybe.	00:49:12
	April.	00:49:17
	We'll have that coming to you.	00:49:19
	And citywide parking study again.	00:49:22
	With a.	00:49:26
	The day lighting law.	00:49:27
	The Adu.	00:49:28
	Laws.	00:49:32
	Again, parking is becoming a premium.	00:49:34
	That we hear.	00:49:38
	From many areas throughout the city on.	00:49:40
	Getting more and more difficult to find parking.	00:49:43
	So November of last year, council authorized us to conduct a parking study, which is.	00:49:46
	Underway right now.	00:49:53
	Our traffic engineer is in the data collection.	00:49:54
	Portion of that you can see the schedule there.	00:49:58
	On the bottom.	00:50:01
	So as they.	00:50:04
	Move forward with their collections and then start putting together an analysis of.	00:50:06
	Options that we'll have.	00:50:10
	To try and alleviate some of those parking concerns.	00:50:12
	That will all get wrapped up into a draft report and then?	00:50:16
	Final report that will come back to you ultimately with.	00:50:20
	Some alternatives that.	00:50:24
	You will be able to consider.	00:50:27
	And.	00:50:28
	At that point.	00:50:30
	Be able to.	00:50:31
	Move forward with.	00:50:33
	Your decision and the.	00:50:36
	With the help and guidance of whatever is put into that.	00:50:38
	And that's it, unless you have any questions on these last two items.	00:50:44
	Councilman Hernandez.	00:50:47
	I may have zoned out when you said this, but what's the difference between primary and additional?	00:50:49
	How do you define those two?	00:50:54
	Terms. What do you mean by primary?	00:50:56
	I.	00:51:01
	The Our traffic engineer was supposed to be here tonight to answer some of these technical questions, but.	00:51:07
	Do you recall how he described that, Charles?	00:51:15
	It only includes the the primary areas, the green areas.	00:51:23
	Because that's where we've seen the most complaints. And then the yellow areas are like single family residences and that's not	00:51:26
	going to be evaluated with this parking study.	00:51:29
	They gave us the option to do that.	00:51:33
	If we want to do that later.	00:51:36
	So, umm.	00:51:37
	Very good. Thank you. Those primarily due to cost we.	00:51:38
	We had freed up, I think it was something in the area of $20,000 to be able to do the parking study. So we're.	00:51:42
	We could either.	00:51:48
	Try to look citywide and find sort of more, maybe generic A.	00:51:50
	Ideas, but we decided to identify those key areas with our.	00:51:55
	Traffic Engineer.	00:52:01
	That we get consistent complaints about parking on and we focused on those.	00:52:02
	With the idea that.	00:52:07
	Specific recommendations will come forward, but then some of those we do think will be applicable citywide, so.	00:52:08
	So we kind of worked with our engineer to.	00:52:14
	Identify those.	00:52:17
	So H.	00:52:23
	I and J so some of the findings that.	00:52:26
	That are going on in the primary locations.	00:52:29
	Are we going to have language that's.	00:52:32
	Going to affect hi and J.	00:52:34
	Potentially the parking study will look at.	00:52:38
	Probably revising the municipal code or putting together regulations.	00:52:40
	That, as James said, we could apply IJ and H.	00:52:44
	There is there is issues in those areas too. Yeah. I think some of the examples where we said some of the things that will come	00:52:48
	out of the primary areas would be applicable to other areas.	00:52:53
	Would be some of the things like.	00:52:58
	Looking at the lot coverage standards and those types of things where?	00:53:00
	If that recommendation comes forward, that would be applicable citywide, so.	00:53:08
	So we we still.	00:53:12
	The reason those are highlighted and.	00:53:14
	And you know, some areas aren't highlighted.	00:53:16
	At all, but those areas are still highlighted as we still wanted to.	00:53:19
	Keep those in mind, but we were focusing on the areas that we get 99% of the complaints with the first priority and that with that	00:53:23
	limited funding at this point, so.	00:53:27
	Thank you. So I think I heard you say that consideration for.	00:53:36
	Possibly changing the hardscape requirement for the front yard.	00:53:42
	That's one of the options the engineer is looking at, but.	00:53:47
	I would.	00:53:51
	Not recommend us getting too deep into any of the specific recommendations because we don't know.	00:53:52
	What? Uh.	00:53:58
	Recommendations going to be developed at this point, but that's one of the examples that we've asked them to look at.	00:53:59
	OK, that that's important. We've asked him to look at it so then we will get something, OK.	00:54:04
	Any other questions?	00:54:11
	I just, I just want to remind everyone there's going to be a workshop.	00:54:14
	In April or May that the engineer is going to hold so.	00:54:16
	All right. Is that the end of your report?	00:54:21
	OK, great.	00:54:23
	All right. Thank you.	00:54:25
	Thank you, Mr. Camarillo and Mr. Gay. Thank you.	00:54:26
	OK, so now we're going to move on to the consent calendar. It seems like we should have already done that right now.	00:54:30
	Yeah, we're going to move on to the consent calendar. So we will now consider the items on the consent calendar, which will be	00:54:37
	enacted in one motion.	00:54:40
	Unless a council member has a request to remove.	00:54:43
	And item for discussion.	00:54:46
	Give you a minute.	00:54:49
	Move to approve second.	00:54:52
	Thank you.	00:54:54
	Madam Clerk, can we get a vote?	00:54:55
	All in favor, aye?	00:54:56
	All opposed.	00:54:58
	Hearing none, motion passes unanimously.	00:54:59
	Great. Thank you.	00:55:03
	All right, we're going to move on to our public hearings.	00:55:05
	Madam Clerk, do you have proof of publication as required by law?	00:55:09
	And a complete file to report.	00:55:12
	Of the reports and exhibits, Yes, Madam Mayor.	00:55:15
	Will staff please present the report?	00:55:19
	Yes, and I'll hand it over here in a moment. I just wanted to introduce.	00:55:22
	With give.	00:55:27
	Sort of the overarching introduction for both public hearings on the agenda today.	00:55:29
	Are related to.	00:55:34
	US preparing to reopen Bubbling Springs Park.	00:55:38
	And so we.	00:55:41
	Expect to be opening up in the next two months and so with with the date to be announced shortly.	00:55:43
	But as part of that.	00:55:50
	There's lots to celebrate, but.	00:55:53
	There's also some work to still do in the meantime.	00:55:55
	And for example.	00:55:57
	As of right now we're building a dog park, but we don't we legally aren't allowed to let people off.	00:55:59
	Have their dogs off leash.	00:56:05
	To have let people have their dogs off leash.	00:56:08
	So we're looking at things like that to get all of those things set up and ready to go so that when the Bubbling Springs Park	00:56:10
	opens.	00:56:15
	People can enjoy all the amenities.	00:56:19
	And so with that.	00:56:21
	To talk about the dog.	00:56:23
	Park leash and the leash rules and the.	00:56:25
	Bubbling Springs Park facility rental.	00:56:29
	Fees. I'll introduce our Deputy City Manager, Charles Parrots, who will be walking us through those.	00:56:32
	Thank you. Good evening, Council.	00:56:41
	Public fellow staff.	00:56:43
	Thank you City manager, I think you effectively stole my Thunder. It was a good synopsis of item.	00:56:45
	Item 9 on our agenda.	00:56:51
	It's a public hearing to allow the council to consider.	00:56:53
	A code amendment to allow for off leash activity within the designated off leash area of Bubbling Springs.	00:56:55
	Park.	00:57:01
	So.	00:57:04
	As referenced, the Bubbling Springs Park renovation project is going to result.	00:57:05
	In a wonderful.	00:57:09
	Reimagined.	00:57:11
	Park. It's going to have lots of new and improved park amenities.	00:57:13
	One of the amenities which was a particular interest to the community during the planning and design phase.	00:57:16
	Is the dog park.	00:57:21
	Also known as the off leash area.	00:57:23
	The dog park will provide.	00:57:26
	Two separate fenced areas, one for large dogs, one for small dogs.	00:57:28
	And will allow those animals to run off leash within that designated area.	00:57:32
	Currently, the city's municipal code, specifically its leash law, does not allow for dogs to be off leash in city parks.	00:57:37
	Therefore, in order to allow this facility to operate as it's intended, we need to.	00:57:45
	Consider an amendment to the code to allow for dogs to be off leash within this area.	00:57:50
	So the ordinance that's presented this evening seeks to amend 2 sections of the municipal code.	00:57:58
	The first is Article 3 of Chapter 1, Section 3007.	00:58:03
	Which is the city's least leash law?	00:58:08
	The proposal is to amend that.	00:58:11
	Section to allow for off leash activity at Bubbling Springs Park in the designated area.	00:58:13
	And to amend Article 4 of Chapter 1, Section 4008.	00:58:19
	Which would be amended to designate the specific area.	00:58:24
	Codify certain regulations.	00:58:28
	And allow for the city manager to further develop administrative rules and regulations governing the use of the area.	00:58:30
	In conclusion, just to be clear, that changes that we're speaking about, that we're proposing the Council consider.	00:58:39
	Would be applicable.	00:58:45
	Only to the designated.	00:58:46
	Area within Bubbling Springs Park it would not.	00:58:48
	Amend the code in any other way. There would be no allowance for off leash activity.	00:58:51
	Anywhere else?	00:58:55
	So with that brief overview.	00:58:58
	We have the list of recommendations for the public hearing.	00:59:01
	I'm happy to answer questions, provide additional information.	00:59:04
	That the Council may request.	00:59:09
	Any questions?	00:59:15
	Just questions, we'll come back.	00:59:15
	Silly question, but.	00:59:18
	Is there a definition small dog versus big dog?	00:59:20
	It's not a silly question, it's an excellent question.	00:59:24
	You know, when we get into certain details like that, you know the the proposed language.	00:59:28
	To be codified speaks to.	00:59:33
	Rules that are unwavering and unchanging, but specifics like that. Specifics about ages of dogs that would be allowed. Dogs in	00:59:35
	heat, aggressive dogs.	00:59:40
	The number of dogs that one person may carry. The size of a dog that would be defined as small versus large.	00:59:45
	Those are things that we envision would be part of the administrative rules that will be developed and posted at the site.	00:59:51
	So while I don't have a definitive answer for you now, that would be something that would be defined and displayed at the park so	00:59:56
	it's clear the definition is understood by all users.	01:00:01
	Yeah, I just wonder what a corgi is.	01:00:06
	Which is kind of like a big little dog.	01:00:09
	Yeah. The the information I've seen elsewhere is sometimes the 20 LB mark is used as the demarcation. So we'll take a look at	01:00:11
	that.	01:00:15
	My instinct and my familiarity with dogs tells me Corky may be a small, small dog area.	01:00:20
	I think it usually goes by weight if you look at.	01:00:27
	What other cities are doing for their off leash?	01:00:29
	Park areas.	01:00:32
	Between the big dogs and the little dogs.	01:00:34
	It's usually designated by weight.	01:00:36
	And 20 to 25 lbs is somewhere around the cutoff.	01:00:38
	Any other questions?	01:00:43
	All right, no other questions. We will open the public hearing.	01:00:45
	Is now 729.	01:00:50
	Madam Clerk, are there any public comments regarding this item? No public comments.	01:00:53
	We will now close the hearing.	01:00:59
	So the input has been concluded.	01:01:01
	The time is now 729.	01:01:03
	So we have before us a recommendation to introduce the 1st.	01:01:06
	For first reading.	01:01:10
	By title only, waiving further reading of the ordinance entitled.	01:01:11
	An ordinance of the City Council of the City of Port Hueneme, CA amending.	01:01:15
	Section 303007 of Chapter 1 of Article 3.	01:01:21
	Three and section 4008 of chapter one of our.	01:01:25
	Four of the port winding municipal code.	01:01:30
	To allow dogs to be off leash within the designated area of Bubbling Springs Park.	01:01:33
	And to find.	01:01:38
	Project.	01:01:40
	To be categorically exempt from sequa.	01:01:41
	And takes us such additional related actions that may be.	01:01:44
	Desired may I have a motion and a second?	01:01:48
	So moved second.	01:01:51
	Is there any discussion?	01:01:54
	Notice that all right.	01:01:57
	Madam Clerk, can you take?	01:02:00
	Councilmember Gama.	01:02:02
	Yes, Councilmember Hernandez. Yes, Councilmember Perez. Yes, Mayor Pro Tem Lopez.	01:02:04
	Yes, Mayor McQueen Lashawn.	01:02:09
	Yes, motion passes unanimously.	01:02:11
	Thank you.	01:02:14
	We will now move on to public hearing #10.	01:02:15
	Consider the adoption of a resolution amending recreation fees in the master fee schedule.	01:02:19
	Madam Clerk, do you have proof of publication as required by law?	01:02:25
	And a complete file of reports and exhibits. Yes, Madam.	01:02:29
	Thank you. Will staff please present the report.	01:02:33
	Good evening once again. Agenda item number 10 is our second public hearing of the evening.	01:02:38
	And it's provided.	01:02:43
	With the intent to allow Council to consider the adoption of a resolution.	01:02:45
	That would amend the recreation fees section of the city's master fee schedule.	01:02:49
	So, by way of review, the city's master fee schedule establishes costs to be charged in exchange for materials or services.	01:02:58
	That directly benefit an individual or a specific group.	01:03:05
	The fee schedule covers a wide variety of fees.	01:03:09
	Ranging from building and safety fees.	01:03:12
	To fees related to police services.	01:03:14
	Included.	01:03:17
	Our fees associated with the rental of spaces in cities, parks and facilities.	01:03:18
	Those fees are commonly influenced by rates charged for comparable amenities in nearby agencies.	01:03:24
	As discussed before.	01:03:34
	The Bubbling Springs Park renovation project is going to redesign the park and offer new and renovated park amenities.	01:03:36
	None of the amenities within the park currently contain fees in the city's fee schedule.	01:03:45
	However, umm.	01:03:51
	Because the multi-purpose fields, AKA the soccer fields, picnic areas.	01:03:52
	The community room and the ball fields are all proposed to be subject to reservation.	01:03:57
	We are recommending that part.	01:04:02
	Park permit fees.	01:04:04
	Be established for their use.	01:04:05
	Because park and facility rental fees are typically set at market rate.	01:04:14
	Fees charged by other local agencies are often considered when setting.	01:04:19
	Or establishing new or revised fees.	01:04:24
	In this particular case, the city reviewed fees from 7 other agencies in Ventura County, including the cities of Ventura.	01:04:28
	Santa Paula, Moorpark, Ohio.	01:04:35
	Fillmore, as well as the Pleasant Valley and Rancho Simi Park and recreation districts.	01:04:37
	While agencies differ in their approach.	01:04:43
	All have some type of tiered rate structure.	01:04:45
	Staff is proposing a tiered.	01:04:49
	Approach here as well.	01:04:52
	The proposed approach.	01:04:54
	Provides one rate for residents and nonprofit groups and a second higher rate for non residents.	01:04:56
	In establishing the list of proposed fees for field reservations.	01:05:03
	Staff sought to keep the resident nonprofit rate at or below the average for such rates.	01:05:07
	For ball fields, the proposed amounts are closely aligned, although slightly higher than the existing fee for the use of Miranda	01:05:14
	Park fields.	01:05:18
	The multipurpose fields.	01:05:23
	Are designed for six and under, and eight and under use and as such.	01:05:25
	Are not comparable to full size soccer fields.	01:05:29
	Therefore, the proposed fees.	01:05:33
	Are approximately 1/2 of the average resident fee found in other agencies?	01:05:35
	Non resident fees were set to closely align with the average.	01:05:41
	Non resident fee found in other agencies.	01:05:45
	While providing reservable picnic areas is a very common practice for other agencies.	01:05:53
	The fees charged and the duration of reservation periods vary considerably.	01:05:59
	Picnic areas at Bubbling Springs Park are proposed to be subject to a three hour reservation period.	01:06:05
	With the ability to add additional hours.	01:06:10
	At a resident rate of $60.00 for the three hour period.	01:06:13
	And $20.00 for an additional hour.	01:06:16
	Or a non resident rate of $90.00 for a three hour period.	01:06:19
	With a $30 additional hour.	01:06:22
	The new community room, which is located adjacent to Ball Field 1.	01:06:26
	Is proposed to be subject.	01:06:30
	To reservation fees equal to 1/2 of the fees that currently exist.	01:06:31
	To rent A classroom at the Community Center or the Miranda Park.	01:06:36
	Meeting room.	01:06:39
	That lower cost is due to the fact that the size of the new community room is significantly smaller than the classrooms and the	01:06:41
	room at Miranda Park.	01:06:45
	And therefore can accommodate.	01:06:50
	Many fewer people than those other facilities.	01:06:52
	That provides an overview of the presentation and once again, I'm happy to answer questions the Council may have.	01:06:59
	Are there any questions?	01:07:05
	So you're talking about the picnic area at the ball field?	01:07:09
	Or are you talking about picnic areas on Park Ave.	01:07:14
	So we envision right now, based on the park design, that there would be two covered picnic areas that would be subject to	01:07:18
	reservation.	01:07:21
	I guess my question would be for for all the items that would have fees connected to them our.	01:07:28
	Are they all secure?	01:07:33
	Meaning no one just can walk up to them and justice use them.	01:07:36
	They're not, and the way we envision this playing out would be that if it's not reserved, it would be available for public use.	01:07:40
	But if an individual or a group wanted to reserve it to ensure that they had access to that facility, that option would be	01:07:48
	available to them.	01:07:51
	Any other questions?	01:07:56
	OK, I will now open the public hearing and take public comments.	01:07:59
	The time is now 736. Are there any public comments regarding this item? No public comments.	01:08:04
	Thank you.	01:08:09
	Public input has concluded. I will now close the public hearing.	01:08:10
	At the time of 736.	01:08:14
	So we have before us recommendations.	01:08:17
	To adopt the resolution entitled a resolution of the City Council.	01:08:19
	Of the City of Port Hueneme, CA amending the city's master fee schedule.	01:08:23
	To revise recreation based fees in the city's master.	01:08:28
	Fee schedule.	01:08:32
	Find the project to be statutorily.	01:08:33
	Exempt from SEQUA pursuant to SEQUA Guidelines section 15273.	01:08:36
	Rates, tolls, fares and charges and take such additional related action that may be desirable.	01:08:42
	May I have a motion and a second?	01:08:49
	Move to approve.	01:08:52
	2nd.	01:08:53
	Is there any discussion?	01:08:55
	All right, Madam Clerk, please take a vote.	01:08:58
	Councilmember Goma? Yes, Councilmember Hernandez.	01:09:00
	Yes, Councilmember Perez. Yes, Mayor Pro Tem Lopez.	01:09:03
	Yes. And Mayor McQueen Lejeune. Yes. Motion passes unanimously.	01:09:07
	Thank you.	01:09:11
	And thank you.	01:09:14
	Mr. Perez.	01:09:15
	Report We will now move on to business items.	01:09:17
	#11 being short term rental regulatory options.	01:09:22
	Will staff present the report?	01:09:26
	Thank you.	01:09:30
	Yes, we have AI know.	01:09:33
	Everybody, probably.	01:09:35
	Saw that it's a very lengthy report with the.	01:09:37
	I think there was a couple 100 pages of attachments.	01:09:41
	307.	01:09:44
	I lost count at some point.	01:09:47
	So I won't get get into that level of detail. I think with the presentation, we'll try to keep it fairly high level.	01:09:49
	I obviously there's no ordinance drafted at this point.	01:09:56
	The City Council had.	01:10:01
	Gotten some public comments about.	01:10:04
	Some desires from the community members about short term rental regulations.	01:10:07
	And.	01:10:12
	The City Council asked staff to prepare sort of an overview and of.	01:10:13
	What's what could be done? And maybe what other cities, neighboring cities have done?	01:10:19
	So we have a presentation focused on that.	01:10:23
	All sort of.	01:10:29
	Preview the recommendation, which I think they are at the end of.	01:10:30
	The presentation our recommendation is.	01:10:35
	If we want to move forward with short term rental regulations, we recommend doing some public outreach meetings and some community	01:10:38
	conversation type meetings because.	01:10:42
	I think there's a lot of.	01:10:47
	There's a lot of options and we won't.	01:10:49
	Be able to talk about every option, we'll talk about sort of the high level paths, but.	01:10:51
	I think that there's more conversation.	01:10:58
	With the community about what the key issues are that we are trying to address and that we want to address so.	01:11:01
	So we'll get to that at the end, but we'll sort of start with.	01:11:07
	An overview.	01:11:12
	So for anybody not familiar, a short term rental is a rental of a.	01:11:14
	Home, apartment or room that is for less than 30 consecutive days.	01:11:21
	There, there's a lot of.	01:11:26
	That definition is pretty.	01:11:29
	Firm.	01:11:33
	I think a lot of people.	01:11:34
	Will get confused over time where people will say well I have like.	01:11:36
	You know, somebody staying for 27 days, is that, you know, does that count? Well, it's a 30 day cutoff, so.	01:11:39
	A rental of 29 days is a short term rental. A rental of one day is a short term rental, and then a rental of 30 days or longer	01:11:45
	than that is not a short term rental. So.	01:11:50
	So when we're talking about short term rentals, we're talking about those types of stays for less than 30 consecutive days.	01:11:54
	And most frequently, people are familiar with Airbnb or VRBO as the two most frequent booking platforms.	01:12:03
	But and those are the easiest to regulate because.	01:12:11
	Were able to see those and and have access to that, but obviously somebody could be.	01:12:14
	Renting a short term rental by word of mouth or.	01:12:20
	Or, you know, it used to be Craigslist. Or, you know, whatever the new version of that is.	01:12:24
	It doesn't have to be.	01:12:31
	It's not only Airbnb and VRBO that are.	01:12:32
	That are the only short term rental.	01:12:36
	Platforms. Those are just the two most common.	01:12:38
	So, umm.	01:12:41
	So that's what we are talking about when we talk about a short term rental.	01:12:43
	A lot of cities around us are starting to regulate short term rentals.	01:12:47
	The City of Port Hueneme currently does not have any regulations restricting short term rentals.	01:12:52
	Which essentially means that.	01:12:57
	People can legally.	01:12:59
	Rent out their properties for less than 30 days.	01:13:01
	Under our current.	01:13:04
	Code and rules.	01:13:06
	And.	01:13:07
	We are aware of 14 that actually.	01:13:08
	Have registered with the city and pay transient occupancy tax.	01:13:13
	Those 14 total about 24 to $29,000 in taxes paid each year. So 14 total not.	01:13:18
	It's not.	01:13:27
	That amount for each one, it's 14 short term rentals.	01:13:28
	Totaling 24 to $29,000.	01:13:32
	But when we just were doing research for this, we looked and found that.	01:13:36
	There's closer to 50.	01:13:41
	Short term rentals advertised on either Airbnb or VRBO. So what that means it could be one of two things, probably a combination	01:13:43
	of both.	01:13:48
	Is that?	01:13:52
	Either some people are renting out units that aren't reporting that to the city and aren't paying TOT.	01:13:53
	And probably a combination of both that some people probably.	01:14:00
	Listed it on Airbnb a couple years ago and then forgot about it and left it up. So the true number is probably 30 to 40 units	01:14:04
	would be my guess.	01:14:08
	And like we said, 14.	01:14:13
	Are actually reporting to the city.	01:14:15
	So can I ask one question? Sure so but there can be people who want Airbnb and verbal.	01:14:18
	Yes.	01:14:24
	Now those are they really separate, you can.	01:14:25
	You can list on both. You can list the same property on both.	01:14:30
	But do we know that we're counting? We're not double counting something. I believe we were counting unique ones, so.	01:14:33
	Thank you.	01:14:39
	And then one interesting thing for Winnie me every city is different and every city has a different.	01:14:40
	Issue with short term rentals.	01:14:46
	One interesting thing for us in Port Hueneme is that.	01:14:48
	Almost all of the listings are within the coastal zone.	01:14:51
	And so makes sense, you know, people are listing them with the idea that somebody wants to come to I need me and stay for a week	01:14:55
	and go to the beach, so.	01:14:59
	We're almost all of ours on the map show within the coastal zone.	01:15:04
	So.	01:15:11
	We'll talk a little bit about why that's important because of the California Coastal Commission.	01:15:13
	Makes it a little bit more complicated.	01:15:19
	But at a high level.	01:15:23
	We looked at neighboring cities, neighboring agencies.	01:15:25
	There's really these five key areas that.	01:15:28
	Most regulations.	01:15:32
	Even though the specific standard might be a little different, there's five key areas that they address and it's.	01:15:34
	Requiring permitting and licensing.	01:15:41
	Requiring the payment of transient occupancy tax.	01:15:43
	Identifying operational standards.	01:15:47
	Setting health and safety requirements and then.	01:15:50
	Identifying enforcement and penalties for.	01:15:53
	For umm.	01:15:56
	People that violate rules.	01:15:57
	So within those.	01:15:59
	Permitting and licensing obviously requiring a.	01:16:01
	Short term rental permit, a business license, those types of things. Usually the ordinances will.	01:16:04
	Specify which of those are required and what the fees are for those.	01:16:10
	TOT.	01:16:15
	Transient occupancy tax.	01:16:17
	Essentially.	01:16:19
	A lot of.	01:16:20
	Places used to call it hotel tax. It's the same same tax.	01:16:21
	So they the ordinances will establish a.	01:16:25
	Usually will state that short term rentals will pay the hotel tax and then.	01:16:29
	Essentially.	01:16:34
	State how that's done.	01:16:35
	The operational standards.	01:16:37
	Is probably the key area that I think most of the complaints that we have gotten so far relate to you.	01:16:39
	Which is.	01:16:45
	Setting things like maximum numbers of units that can be rented, maximum numbers of nights that a unit can be rented.	01:16:46
	Parking requirements. Noise requirements, Trash protocols.	01:16:53
	And.	01:16:58
	The signage, identifying rules and contact information if somebody's breaking the rules.	01:16:59
	And then?	01:17:06
	Health requirements or things like fire safety standards and compliance with building codes.	01:17:07
	And then as I said earlier, the usually the ordinance will establish fines.	01:17:13
	And penalties for violation of any of those rules.	01:17:18
	Those are those are the key areas that short term rental regulations focus on.	01:17:22
	We will show our foremost neighboring agencies who have adopted regulations will show.	01:17:28
	A couple slides that show what they have set for each of those and you'll see that.	01:17:35
	They vary depending on.	01:17:38
	What the concern was.	01:17:41
	So we mentioned that almost all of the units are within the coastal zone.	01:17:43
	This map that shows that blue line going through it.	01:17:47
	Show everything on the.	01:17:52
	Left hand side of that blue line is within the coastal zone.	01:17:55
	And most of the short term rental issues and units that we see are within that zone.	01:18:00
	And.	01:18:07
	That's important because the Coastal Commission.	01:18:08
	Has a mandate to protect and enhance public access to the coast.	01:18:11
	So they actually.	01:18:15
	Generally have said that they do not support an outright ban on short term rentals.	01:18:17
	They the Coastal Commission views short term rentals is another tool to help people.	01:18:22
	Get to the beach.	01:18:28
	It's you know, if you as a.	01:18:29
	Renter of these units.	01:18:32
	If this is the way that you can spend your vacation at the beach, then the Coastal Commission supports that is providing equal	01:18:34
	access to the beach.	01:18:38
	But so they don't allow an outright ban, but they do allow.	01:18:44
	Reasonable regulation.	01:18:48
	They say that the regulations must.	01:18:51
	Preserve visitor access and address community concerns.	01:18:53
	And they typically require a local Coastal Program amendment to be approved by the Commission.	01:18:57
	And some of the cities around us are actually working through that process now. So we'll be able to see pretty soon if.	01:19:03
	For example Ventur.	01:19:10
	Ordinances go under review by the Commission.	01:19:11
	And we'll be able to see.	01:19:14
	If it gets approved by the Commission or if they have concerns with some of the rules that Ventura is implementing.	01:19:15
	And so.	01:19:24
	Some of the one of the attachments was a chart showing.	01:19:25
	All the different short term rental.	01:19:29
	Regulations adopted.	01:19:31
	By cities within California Coastal Commission.	01:19:33
	So looking at those.	01:19:36
	We saw some of the measures that Coastal Commission typically allows and supports.	01:19:38
	And those are things like limiting the total amount of rentals by a neighborhood, so.	01:19:43
	For example saying.	01:19:49
	10% of the.	01:19:50
	Only 10% of the units within the coastal zone can be rented as short term rentals or only.	01:19:52
	You know, either by kind of a ratio or even like a number like 50.	01:19:58
	50 units within the.	01:20:03
	Coastal zone, something like that.	01:20:06
	They the Coastal Commission also.	01:20:09
	Allowed for rules for cities to adopt rules saying that 80 use or affordable.	01:20:12
	Housing could not be used as short term rentals.	01:20:19
	We haven't heard this so much in our complaints, but it is a.	01:20:24
	Common concern.	01:20:27
	When short term rentals are discussed is that there is an argument that they increase the price of housing because it's.	01:20:30
	Essentially another path for people to turn a housing unit into an investment and.	01:20:36
	Purchase a property with the intent of renting it out, whereas previously that would have been a unit that somebody could have	01:20:41
	actually purchased and lived in.	01:20:45
	So there is.	01:20:49
	Concerns related to them impacting housing stock available and affordable housing in particular.	01:20:50
	So the Coastal Commission has allowed some restrictions.	01:20:57
	Where Adu's or affordable units can't be used as short term rentals.	01:21:01
	If cities say that the intent of those is to allow for affordable housing.	01:21:06
	Mr. City Manager can interrupt you. I'm sorry. So I just want to get this correct. So.	01:21:12
	If somebody came to the city and said I'm gonna build a Adu.	01:21:17
	And we approve it.	01:21:20
	And then they realized there's more money to be had in a short term rental situation.	01:21:22
	Because I'm in the coastal zone, so then.	01:21:27
	We would be able to.	01:21:30
	Shut it down or would they be able to reapply and say well no I wouldn't be a short term rental so as of now?	01:21:33
	The Coastal Commission has said that it would allow cities to say that's not allowed.	01:21:41
	So we don't have an ordinance drafted yet, but the council could direct staff.	01:21:47
	If we were going to move forward to draft an ordinance.	01:21:54
	Saying we don't want short term rentals to be.	01:21:57
	Allowed in.	01:22:03
	Accessory dwelling units or affordable housing units.	01:22:04
	So that power.	01:22:08
	Exists right now.	01:22:10
	Is there a situation where somebody would say well?	01:22:11
	When I was.	01:22:15
	Building the Adu.	01:22:17
	I didn't have the option.	01:22:19
	Now I have the option.	01:22:21
	So now I want to go in the other direction.	01:22:23
	The only.	01:22:31
	The only way I think that could happen, and I don't know if we did this, but I know when Adus were first allowed by the state, a	01:22:34
	lot of times they were required to have a covenant.	01:22:38
	Saying what they could and could not be used for.	01:22:42
	If if we for example.	01:22:46
	Decided that they should be allowed.	01:22:49
	Aid in accessory dwelling units and that's something we'd have to look at with is whether.	01:22:53
	People have those covenants and what we need to do at that point, but.	01:22:57
	I think the intent of what we're saying is the inverse of that though is that the Coastal Commission has said we can protect 80	01:23:01
	use an affordable units.	01:23:05
	So you know.	01:23:10
	We have the ability to.	01:23:13
	Not.	01:23:17
	To keep those from becoming short term rentals if the council chose to do that.	01:23:17
	Go ahead.	01:23:24
	So in areas that are not.	01:23:25
	In the coastal zone.	01:23:27
	But are in Port Wayne, Amy.	01:23:30
	We're not going to have language like that restricting Adus from being short term rentals.	01:23:31
	Ultimately up to the Council.	01:23:37
	The the council and the city have more authority over.	01:23:39
	The.	01:23:44
	Areas that are not within the coastal zone.	01:23:47
	So the reason we're talking about the coastal zone is because.	01:23:50
	Pretty much the City Council has the ability to regulate short term rentals.	01:23:54
	In the city.	01:23:58
	The only asterisks is in the coastal zone. The Coastal Commission has to approve what we do.	01:23:59
	So we started with knowing that most of our units are in the coastal zone. We're starting by saying here's what the Coastal	01:24:04
	Commission has allowed cities to do and.	01:24:08
	In the coastal.	01:24:12
	But typically we could be more strict.	01:24:14
	Outside. Outside of the coastal zone.	01:24:16
	It just doesn't really make sense for us as a city because we don't really. From what we found, there aren't really many outside	01:24:18
	of the coastal zone.	01:24:21
	But.	01:24:26
	But even that goes back to why we started seeing.	01:24:27
	Probably the next step is some community conversations because.	01:24:30
	I think some of the things we've heard from people are a concern that.	01:24:33
	These are going to start.	01:24:37
	Becoming more.	01:24:39
	Widespread and that more people are going to start doing this. So some people have said we need to do something about these.	01:24:41
	Before uh.	01:24:47
	They, you know, they explode.	01:24:48
	And so.	01:24:50
	That's yet to be seen, you know.	01:24:53
	I think what we've seen.	01:24:56
	Everywhere around us, I think would would say is.	01:24:58
	Airbnb.	01:25:03
	Has.	01:25:04
	And it seems like right now we're in sort of.	01:25:05
	Downtrend.	01:25:08
	I think Airbnb and VRBO as as their.	01:25:09
	Their own like.	01:25:14
	Business reports show that.	01:25:16
	They hit a peak a couple years ago and.	01:25:18
	And the number of units being rented or dropping so.	01:25:20
	So I think the conversation about them getting more widespread.	01:25:23
	Is something.	01:25:28
	That we can talk about.	01:25:30
	But it's it's not clear at this point if that's actually happening.	01:25:33
	So it appears then that.	01:25:40
	Our issues with the coastal zone is HOA.	01:25:44
	The HOA's are going to be.	01:25:48
	The second layer of the rule makers.	01:25:51
	And.	01:25:54
	Do we?	01:25:57
	Supplement their rules? Or do we we we lay the framework and then?	01:25:58
	Because I like Surfside 3.	01:26:03
	Like a couple 100 units over there.	01:26:05
	Yeah. And this is where it gets particularly complicated and it's on this slide.	01:26:07
	So I'll, I'll go back transition back to the slide, but.	01:26:13
	Essentially.	01:26:18
	It gets more complicated with homeowners associations in the coastal zone because homeowners associations.	01:26:19
	Had short term rental rules in place prior to 1977.	01:26:26
	Then they're allowed to enforce those.	01:26:31
	But if they.	01:26:34
	Have tried to make any rules after 1977. Those actually require a.	01:26:35
	Coastal development permit.	01:26:41
	And, umm.	01:26:43
	They, I think one of the things we've heard and seen is that.	01:26:47
	Homeowners associations are actually sort of struggling to get.	01:26:52
	Regulations approved by the coastal zone.	01:26:56
	So whereas.	01:26:58
	The HOA's.	01:27:05
	Have.	01:27:07
	Not been able to get the approval from the coastal zones or have been told that they're unlikely to get approval for the coastal	01:27:07
	zone, so that's why they've come to the city asking for the city to adopt something.	01:27:13
	That would be considered by the Coastal Commission.	01:27:18
	I'm trying to I'm thinking trying to formulate.	01:27:27
	So what? What I just heard you say is that.	01:27:29
	It gets complicated. Yes, it went right over my head. I think so.	01:27:34
	Individuals or HOA's trying to get something passed in the coastal zone or leaving it up to us to try to get something passed, but	01:27:38
	how much luck are we going to have?	01:27:43
	With it, I think that's really it is so the HOA's and the coastal zone have.	01:27:49
	Run into roadblocks and they've said can we do something about it? Are we going to have any authority to be able to do so? And the	01:27:54
	answer is we still have to go through the Coastal Commission.	01:27:59
	And they will.	01:28:04
	They are.	01:28:06
	Taking some things out of our hands, like we can't just ban them in the coastal zone for example, we can't say no short term	01:28:07
	rentals allowed.	01:28:10
	But what our research did find is that.	01:28:14
	Usually if we have reasonable measures then.	01:28:17
	They've supported those reasonable measures.	01:28:20
	So, so, and part of what you've given us is what the Coastal Commission is doing. Yeah. So then we have information or some a lot.	01:28:23
	Well, we know we could have.	01:28:28
	Yeah.	01:28:35
	Yeah. So the list that we have right then beneath that regulatory measures supported by the Coastal Commission are generally the	01:28:35
	things that the Coastal Commission has approved in other cities around us.	01:28:40
	So when a member of Surfside 3 or 4, whatever says.	01:28:46
	There's a short term rental and they had a bachelor party this weekend. It was crazy. 30 people showed up.	01:28:52
	Right now we don't have the ability to go in and.	01:28:58
	Police it.	01:29:02
	Other than you're violating the noise ordinance, it would have to be something in our existing code, like a noise ordinance issue.	01:29:03
	So OK.	01:29:13
	So.	01:29:16
	Yeah. And we'll get to that. We'll get to that in a couple slides. I think one of the things that we would want to make clear when	01:29:18
	we have our community conversations is.	01:29:22
	I do. I would always just caution people. I think sometimes people say, well, if we adopted this then the city would be able to	01:29:26
	shut down that party.	01:29:30
	The reality is, we're not.	01:29:33
	We don't have staff.	01:29:35
	That respond to.	01:29:37
	Code compliance issues at 2:00 AM other than the police and I wouldn't recommend using the police to go after short term rentals.	01:29:39
	So we likely won't have an immediate response whether we adopt A short term rental or not.	01:29:46
	But.	01:29:53
	Some cities do have is.	01:29:54
	Things like a way to contact the property owner, where the property owner has to post their contact information where they can,	01:29:56
	whether they answer the phone 24 hours a day.	01:30:00
	And then a resident can call that property owner and.	01:30:05
	And ask them to.	01:30:09
	Ask their tenant to.	01:30:10
	You know, shut down a party or something like that.	01:30:12
	And I met excuse me and I imagine even.	01:30:15
	Even though we don't have an ordinance in place now.	01:30:18
	There's still the HOA who has their rules.	01:30:21
	That will respond.	01:30:25
	Things like that. So yes, OK. And it's just that the HOA is if they didn't have a rule.	01:30:26
	Pre 1977 about short term rentals then they can't enforce.	01:30:32
	Noise and all of those things, nuisance type things.	01:30:38
	So. So it's not a magic bullet.	01:30:42
	But we have, it would give us some abilities. And so that's really what we're focusing on with this list.	01:30:44
	Some of the abilities that we would have in the coastal zone would be limiting the total short term rentals.	01:30:50
	By neighborhood or with, like we said, a certain percentage of overall housing units.	01:30:57
	Restricting.	01:31:03
	Not allowing short term rentals at Adus or Affordable.	01:31:06
	Units has been supported by the Coastal Commission.	01:31:09
	Capping the.	01:31:13
	Rental duration, so no more than a certain.	01:31:14
	Number of days.	01:31:18
	Capping occupancy, you know no more than a certain number of people.	01:31:21
	Requiring 24 hour management of the units by the property owner like we mentioned a moment ago.	01:31:25
	Requiring.	01:31:33
	Measures for parking related issues, garbage related issues and noise related issues.	01:31:35
	Posting clear signage with 24 hour contact information for the property owner and the operational rules.	01:31:40
	Ensuring the.	01:31:48
	Transient occupancy tax.	01:31:49
	Payment is required and and.	01:31:52
	And paid.	01:31:55
	And then?	01:31:57
	Really.	01:31:59
	Like like we said a moment ago, most cities around us when they've adopted it.	01:32:01
	They make clear that.	01:32:06
	They're not going to have staff shut down.	01:32:07
	A rental, you're not gonna go kick somebody out because they're being loud, you know, it's just.	01:32:10
	That's not the recourse, but what does happen is if the same property owner has multiple violations, then that's when the city	01:32:17
	says OK from.	01:32:21
	At this point, you know you violated.	01:32:25
	You know, too many times and we're pulling your permits and you're, you're not allowed to have a short term rental anymore.	01:32:27
	So. So that's typically how most of the cities have enforced it.	01:32:32
	Mayor, have a question?	01:32:38
	The 1977 date for audience information. What is the significance of that?	01:32:40
	Why before and not after? Believe it's when the Coastal Commission.	01:32:46
	Was established, Yeah.	01:32:52
	Yeah, so if you made a rule before they existed.	01:32:55
	They honor it.	01:32:58
	If you didn't, they get authority or priority over it.	01:32:59
	Can can we?	01:33:05
	Require large deposits on the property owner.	01:33:07
	For example, let's say the.	01:33:12
	Proverbial bachelor party gets out of hand and causes damage to public property in addition to.	01:33:14
	Can we do things like that? Yeah, we should be able to.	01:33:20
	One of the things we'll talk about are like the fees and I think.	01:33:24
	That's part of it.	01:33:27
	I didn't see deposit specifically, but I don't see why that would be.	01:33:30
	I don't see.	01:33:35
	An issue where that would conflict with the Coastal Commission, so I think that would be.	01:33:36
	Allowed, although we'd have to submit it to the Coastal Commission.	01:33:40
	Yeah, I'm going to step out for just a second. So the comments.	01:33:44
	OK.	01:33:48
	And so.	01:33:50
	A little bit more on the homeowners associations.	01:33:53
	And short term rentals.	01:33:56
	Any regulation significantly affecting short term rentals in the coastal zone must align with the state law and be approved by the	01:33:57
	Coastal Commission.	01:34:01
	Like we said earlier.	01:34:05
	We were just the slide behind but outside the coastal zone HOA's.	01:34:07
	And cities have broader authority to regulate or restrict STR's short term rentals.	01:34:12
	But it's that additional layer of that Coastal Commission review that that causes the.	01:34:18
	The limitations in the coastal zone.	01:34:23
	There's a few cases that established these rules listed here.	01:34:26
	And I think we we covered all these, so I will go.	01:34:33
	Ahead, So we wanted to highlight, you know, what we hear and understand are the potential challenges with adopting a short term	01:34:37
	rental.	01:34:42
	Ordinance.	01:34:48
	I spoke about these.	01:34:49
	In that prior slide at a high level, but.	01:34:52
	In short, there are three main challenges that that some of the cities cited.	01:34:55
	Resource constraints, identification issues, and effective.	01:35:00
	Enforcement tactics. How to How to make sure those tactics are effective.	01:35:05
	For resource constraints like.	01:35:09
	I said a moment ago, Cities noted. They don't.	01:35:12
	Have most cities don't have code enforcement staff working?	01:35:15
	24/7 you usually identify key.	01:35:19
	Times of the day.	01:35:24
	That you would have them work.	01:35:26
	And so if they aren't working 24/7, if they aren't working evening or weekends.	01:35:28
	Then there isn't somebody to respond to those issues right away.	01:35:33
	As we talked about before and it'll be on another slide.	01:35:38
	One way to solve that would be having the property owner responsible for.	01:35:41
	For being the point of contact to address issues.	01:35:46
	So we'll talk about that.	01:35:50
	Also, just with limited staff and then budget limitations.	01:35:52
	Typically even just things like monitoring for short term rentals cities now are contracting with.	01:35:58
	Service provider who actually monitors and searches out the short term rentals. So those are things that require some resources.	01:36:04
	And then?	01:36:15
	Permitting system.	01:36:17
	Business licensing, all of those things.	01:36:19
	Require staff time to process.	01:36:22
	Those require resources as well.	01:36:25
	We mentioned identification issues, that's.	01:36:30
	Probably the biggest challenge is once you start enforcing.	01:36:33
	Regulations. Well.	01:36:37
	People get very crafty and.	01:36:39
	I've gone through this where.	01:36:42
	What we started to see after we started enforcing was.	01:36:44
	People would literally take one picture inside their house with all their windows closed just to show the inside of the room.	01:36:49
	And then?	01:36:55
	Essentially do that so that.	01:36:57
	We, as the staff cannot figure out where the unit is.	01:36:59
	Because if they're only advertising on Airbnb with one picture inside the house, you don't have any way to identify the unit.	01:37:03
	So online listings can be very difficult to actually.	01:37:10
	Find the exact unit.	01:37:15
	There are a couple of tricks to it and a couple of contractors.	01:37:18
	Who are able to get like identifying information from?	01:37:23
	Even things like IP addresses and stuff like that. So. So there are some ways to work with that, but that goes back to resources.	01:37:28
	So and so and then.	01:37:34
	What my experience was even.	01:37:39
	Dropping the number of units that were advertised online.	01:37:41
	From hundreds down to just a couple.	01:37:45
	There was still a concern from.	01:37:48
	A prior community that.	01:37:51
	That there was still word of mouth rentals going on. There were still just people who had friends who every year would come rent	01:37:54
	their.	01:37:57
	Condo and have a party or whatever it was.	01:38:01
	And so obviously those are even harder to catch because you just.	01:38:04
	You you usually only hear about those.	01:38:09
	When the, you know, you get the call at 2:00 AM because they're having the party and they want somebody to enforce, but there was	01:38:12
	no other way to.	01:38:15
	To identify it ahead of time.	01:38:18
	So. So those are some of the issues.	01:38:22
	We talked about the effective enforcement tactics like requiring the 24/7.	01:38:26
	Property owner Property manager Contact information.	01:38:31
	Having a complete hotline for neighbors and residents online. Moderate monitoring tools to track rentals.	01:38:34
	And progressive penalty structures up to the revocation of the permit, those are typically the things that most of the regulations	01:38:40
	have that actually work.	01:38:44
	And so I won't go into these in detail, but.	01:38:50
	Those earlier slides where we said.	01:38:52
	Each of the cities around us.	01:38:55
	Kind of have these key.	01:38:57
	Areas.	01:38:58
	These are the detail of those and there there's slight differences, for example Oxnard.	01:39:00
	You'll note has a.	01:39:06
	A permit that costs several $1000.	01:39:08
	And by comparison, Carpinteria has a permit that costs about $400.	01:39:13
	Um, yes.	01:39:18
	Does the county have?	01:39:21
	Because I was just thinking Silver Strand Beach is.	01:39:23
	Yeah. OK. I'll get to them there on the next slide.	01:39:27
	Similar.	01:39:31
	I won't go through everything but another example is Oxnard has a 10%.	01:39:34
	Hotel tax Carpentry has a 12% hotel hotel tax, so.	01:39:38
	There's they all have the same areas, it's just that the specifics of the rules might be a little bit different.	01:39:42
	And then you can see some examples there like with Oxnard, it's 10% of the beach zone is.	01:39:49
	Is eligible for short term rentals so they have a cap on it.	01:39:55
	They have a minimum three night stay.	01:39:58
	And a maximum of 100 nights per year at each of the houses.	01:40:01
	Again.	01:40:06
	Sounds great and I think that.	01:40:08
	Probably addresses some of the concerns, but it's also very difficult to actually enforce.	01:40:10
	Like who's actually going to track whether somebody's at 99 nights or.	01:40:15
	001.	01:40:19
	So some of these rules are more difficult than others to enforce.	01:40:20
	And then things like good neighbor rules, quiet hours.	01:40:25
	Parking requirements that they that people leave a certain amount of spaces available.	01:40:32
	In their garage or driveway, things like that.	01:40:38
	So, so those are typical.	01:40:41
	Regulations. That's Oxnard.	01:40:43
	We also looked at Carpinteria. Similar, just.	01:40:46
	They'd be a lot of the a lot of similar requirements, but with slight differences.	01:40:49
	And then?	01:40:54
	We mentioned city of Ventura and then county of Ventura and you could see again similarly that.	01:40:55
	City of Ventura has a very low fee and then County of Ventura has a higher fee that compares to Oxnard.	01:41:01
	Probably for that very reason mentioned is that.	01:41:07
	Oxnard and then Silver Strand.	01:41:11
	A lot of people don't really know the difference and so.	01:41:14
	If one is vastly different than the other, it's it would probably cause a problem, so.	01:41:17
	They have more similarities.	01:41:23
	And I think for that.	01:41:26
	Reason we'd look.	01:41:27
	Similarly for Port Hueneme, with us being sort of the next beach after that.	01:41:28
	And so.	01:41:34
	It's something to keep in mind the.	01:41:36
	One of the challenges is going to be with if we only have, let's say 30 or 40.	01:41:39
	Short term rentals.	01:41:43
	Is.	01:41:45
	If we have to, for example.	01:41:46
	Add, you know, a half a person or a full.	01:41:48
	Person worth of staff time.	01:41:52
	The.	01:41:54
	Are the costs of that person should be borne by the people that are?	01:41:57
	Renting their units. It shouldn't be borne by all.	01:42:02
	Taxpayers, it should be the people that are.	01:42:05
	Receiving that benefit of being able to have a short term rental.	01:42:07
	So the costs would not be insignificant. I'd imagine that it would be a couple $1000 per.	01:42:11
	Person per permit.	01:42:17
	And then tot collected as well to try to cover those costs.	01:42:19
	Councillor, I'm sorry, Mayor Pro Tem.	01:42:25
	So.	01:42:28
	As of.	01:42:29
	Today, the HOA Coalition.	01:42:30
	They haven't came.	01:42:33
	To us with.	01:42:35
	Any guidance?	01:42:36
	Like or what what they're seeing as far as.	01:42:38
	What the consensus is within their coalition.	01:42:43
	I think that.	01:42:46
	I haven't heard a consensus.	01:42:48
	I will say my understanding and we might actually hear this and I know we got some written public comments, but.	01:42:50
	I believe.	01:42:56
	One of the.	01:42:57
	Speakers who's commented a few times.	01:42:59
	Is it page? I think page?	01:43:02
	Is, I think, the housing coalitions.	01:43:04
	Chair of their short term rental.	01:43:08
	Review Group.	01:43:11
	And so I don't.	01:43:13
	We haven't gotten a real consensus, but I think that.	01:43:15
	Her comments are.	01:43:18
	Sort of on behalf of the Housing Coalition.	01:43:22
	So we'll we'll hear those.	01:43:25
	But I think that's also why.	01:43:27
	Really, for us, we were saying the next step I think is more conversation.	01:43:29
	To really get a consensus and make sure that we have a consensus because.	01:43:33
	You can see from all of these different regulations.	01:43:38
	I think they were all drafted to.	01:43:41
	Deal with different problems. You know if you're one city and your problem is.	01:43:44
	Too many in the beach zone, then you're going to make one set of rules if you're another city and.	01:43:48
	Your problem is you don't have that many, but it's just, you know, some party houses or something like that, Then you're gonna	01:43:52
	draft another set of rules. Yeah. So I think that's what we need to understand is what?	01:43:58
	People what concerns people want us to address?	01:44:03
	So does this Do we even? I know this is just the conversation, but are we gonna discuss like?	01:44:07
	You know, shared walls.	01:44:15
	You know.	01:44:18
	Which could be a noise issue.	01:44:19
	My suggestion for tonight is I think we're still high level.	01:44:22
	And so.	01:44:28
	I would suggest sort of.	01:44:30
	Focusing on what?	01:44:32
	Option which is the the next slide was.	01:44:34
	There's sort of four options and I think we select an option and then give staff direction to go.	01:44:37
	Talk to the community about.	01:44:44
	That option really.	01:44:46
	And so it segues nicely because I think there's really four options right now and one would be.	01:44:47
	Well, it's.	01:44:53
	It's really 3 but.	01:44:55
	I'll explain.	01:44:57
	That one would just be, you know, if it's not a problem and we're not hearing it's a concern is just no, no action and people who	01:44:59
	rent short term rentals would continue to rent short term rentals.	01:45:04
	And and there wouldn't be.	01:45:08
	Any change from what's happening today?	01:45:11
	And then?	01:45:14
	Second option is.	01:45:16
	What we're calling moderate regulation.	01:45:17
	Introducing good neighbor requirements.	01:45:20
	And what exactly those are to be determined, but you know that would be what we'd be looking to do is introduce good neighbor	01:45:23
	requirements.	01:45:26
	Have a formal permit and license system.	01:45:30
	And.	01:45:34
	The city would provide oversight.	01:45:37
	But probably go into that direction of.	01:45:40
	Requiring the.	01:45:42
	Property owner who's renting the units to really manage.	01:45:44
	Manage it and respond to concerns.	01:45:47
	With the city overseeing that.	01:45:49
	Partially that's because we can do that with.	01:45:52
	Less resources. If we have to actually be the enforcement arm, that's going to require additional resources.	01:45:55
	And then the third option would be the comprehensive regulation, which can be, as you know, things like.	01:46:01
	Putting the caps on how many and what neighborhoods, having a zoning overlay or a district limitation really getting into like.	01:46:06
	Pinpointing where we want short term rentals and where we don't want short term rentals.	01:46:14
	With stronger requirements, stronger enforcement penalties.	01:46:19
	And things like that.	01:46:23
	So those are really the three options, but.	01:46:25
	I said before there was 4 because we recommend the fourth.	01:46:28
	Sort of, regardless which is.	01:46:32
	Regardless of those other options, I think having more.	01:46:34
	Community engagement workshop and a survey, for example.	01:46:38
	To get feedback on.	01:46:42
	What the main priorities are to focus on?	01:46:44
	If we draft an ordinance.	01:46:48
	And the ordinance is aimed at.	01:46:50
	You know, not having short term rentals in this neighborhood, but that's not the concern. The concern is is.	01:46:51
	You know this other neighborhood, then it doesn't really accomplish anything so.	01:46:57
	I think to the point.	01:47:01
	You made a moment ago.	01:47:03
	We haven't heard really a consensus of like what?	01:47:04
	The three or four main issues.	01:47:09
	That need to be addressed are so I think we need to keep.	01:47:11
	Having that conversation to do that.	01:47:14
	And so those are the four options to move forward.	01:47:17
	We are recommending at this point again.	01:47:21
	Starting with that community engagement process.	01:47:24
	And.	01:47:27
	I know there was 307 more pages to talk about but.	01:47:28
	We'll start there and if there's any questions, I'm happy to answer any other questions.	01:47:32
	So if if I'm an owner of a four unit apartment complex.	01:47:37
	I could decide to go short term rental.	01:47:46
	For all four units right now, yes, right.	01:47:49
	When we do our and I agree, I think that the consensus of the coalition was to get the city to start having a conversation.	01:47:53
	It wasn't one way or another, but it was too.	01:48:02
	I was at the meeting by the way.	01:48:05
	So if.	01:48:09
	We develop.	01:48:12
	Comprehensive.	01:48:17
	Regulations.	01:48:18
	Based upon.	01:48:20
	Thorough community engagement.	01:48:22
	We should be able to.	01:48:24
	Come up with something.	01:48:26
	That works for the coastal zone.	01:48:28
	And also works outside of the zone.	01:48:31
	I guess.	01:48:34
	I'm kind of confused about are we only concerned with the coastal zone?	01:48:35
	Or, uh.	01:48:39
	Do we?	01:48:40
	I've used Airbnb in New Orleans one time and it was awesome. It was, it was the best thing ever and so I could see.	01:48:43
	Someone outside of the coastal zone.	01:48:51
	Go in STR.	01:48:54
	And providing a really good service to a family coming here for whatever reason, so.	01:48:56
	So the City Council would have the ability to.	01:49:02
	Adopt an ordinance.	01:49:07
	That applies to both.	01:49:10
	Coastal zone and non coastal zone.	01:49:12
	If desired, obviously the coastal zone one just has to go through Coastal Commission as well, but the City Council could adopt	01:49:15
	that ordinance.	01:49:19
	I think.	01:49:24
	Part of why we're talking about having that community engagement first is as of now, we haven't heard from really anybody that	01:49:25
	there's actually a concern outside of the coastal zone.	01:49:30
	And so maybe, maybe there is and maybe we just haven't heard it.	01:49:35
	And so if we.	01:49:39
	Do you know workshop and surveys? Maybe we'll hear. Oh, actually there's this neighborhood outside of the coastal zone and it's,	01:49:40
	it's really a problem. And here's the problem.	01:49:44
	But.	01:49:48
	That's why for now.	01:49:49
	Most of this report focused on.	01:49:51
	Within the coastal zone is because that is where we're getting the concerns and it's also where.	01:49:53
	All of our short term rentals.	01:49:59
	Are located on Airbnb, VRBO.	01:50:01
	So any other questions?	01:50:05
	Madam Clerk, are there any public comments?	01:50:09
	Yes. First is Jan Burke.	01:50:11
	Good evening, Council Mayor.	01:50:25
	Staff and.	01:50:27
	Neighbors, umm.	01:50:29
	Thank you for bringing this up. It's it's something that has bubbled up.	01:50:31
	Within the HOA coalition as a topic that.	01:50:35
	That I think that what we're seeing is that we're seeing that there needs to be consistency in how this is handled.	01:50:40
	So each of the HOA's have different challenges.	01:50:46
	But we want to make sure that we're being consistent and This is why we're looking to partner with the city.	01:50:49
	To come up with an ordinance or a guideline.	01:50:55
	To help us to create something that works for the city, works for the Hoas.	01:50:58
	And that we're we're all playing on the same level.	01:51:03
	Playing field.	01:51:07
	And some have more challenges. Some of the HOA's that we've heard from have more challenges than others.	01:51:08
	We're starting to see a few in our HOA at the Anacapa View Beach Homes.	01:51:15
	I think that.	01:51:20
	What we're looking to.	01:51:22
	To do and this is really great.	01:51:24
	And I want to thank you.	01:51:26
	Miss City Manager Vega for putting this together because this is really helpful.	01:51:27
	To help kind of really kind of sort through what's already going on in the in this in our local region.	01:51:32
	So that we can kind of mirror potentially some of the elements there. But I think the one The thing is unique is that the coastal	01:51:38
	zone here in Winimi.	01:51:42
	Is all.	01:51:46
	Hoas.	01:51:47
	Right. Umm.	01:51:49
	So one of the great things I think that can be beneficial here, we're not. You're not.	01:51:50
	An individual homeowner.	01:51:55
	That has a heart that you would have a hard time enforcing.	01:51:57
	And partnering with because it's a one off type situation.	01:52:01
	Our HOA's would be willing to work with the city.	01:52:05
	To help.	01:52:08
	Enforce and help.	01:52:09
	Manage the enforcement because we.	01:52:11
	It's our property values, it's our, it's our quality of life within those communities that we.	01:52:15
	Value and I think that that's where.	01:52:20
	This is sort of kind of.	01:52:22
	Natural evolution, if you will.	01:52:24
	For our community.	01:52:27
	And we appreciate.	01:52:30
	The help?	01:52:31
	And I think that we can come to a.	01:52:33
	A policy and a guidelines that we can get, we can live with together that will be mutually beneficial. We don't want it to be an	01:52:38
	overreaching.	01:52:41
	Burden to the city.	01:52:46
	But we want it to be something that's simple but yet.	01:52:48
	Works effectively.	01:52:50
	I think that's what.	01:52:52
	Thank you.	01:52:53
	David Scribner.	01:52:55
	Good evening everybody.	01:53:07
	As the president of the Village Homeowners Association and vice chair of the HHOAC.	01:53:10
	Because these two hats on today, they're slightly different.	01:53:16
	But as a suicide village, we would prefer that we didn't have any short term rentals in there, but that's not realistic.	01:53:19
	And we're not asking for that.	01:53:27
	Basically.	01:53:29
	We don't have any at this point. I think that housing prices are high enough to where I think you'd have a hard time.	01:53:30
	You make more money renting entity with.	01:53:37
	The short term rental.	01:53:41
	That's not the case for the places that face the beach, I don't think. I think they get more so.	01:53:42
	What we would like is for you to.	01:53:47
	Address this past something.	01:53:50
	That regulates it.	01:53:52
	One of the things you may not be aware of is as a homeowners association when somebody has a violation.	01:53:54
	You can.	01:54:00
	Go through this process really slowly, keep escalating things and eventually find them.	01:54:01
	And it's actually impossible to collect those fines.	01:54:05
	So until somebody sells their house or whatever.	01:54:09
	You can't, you can't collect on any of them. So there's not a lot of teeth in our ability to control somebody who has a big party	01:54:12
	house every once a month, so.	01:54:17
	What we would like is for you to go ahead and.	01:54:22
	Address this, there's there's other models out here. I personally thought the Ventura model was one I liked the best, but.	01:54:25
	The devil's in the details, you can figure that out, but.	01:54:31
	I think this would give an opportunity to collect some money. The city can use some money.	01:54:34
	I've spent.	01:54:39
	Many nights in short term vacation rentals.	01:54:41
	They're great.	01:54:44
	Intend to continue to do this.	01:54:46
	The problem is that, as in most in life, 2% of the population create 90% of the problems.	01:54:48
	And so when you get a bad owner or.	01:54:54
	They happen to.	01:54:58
	Think they're renting to grandma and grandpa and actually it's the whole graduating class at Cal Lutheran or something then.	01:55:00
	You know, we have some issues, so it really encourage it to.	01:55:06
	Useful common sense.	01:55:11
	Give us some money for the city.	01:55:14
	The last issue I think is that at least homeowners can put in the associations you can put some pressure on.	01:55:15
	On people, but if you are outside the coastal zone.	01:55:22
	And.	01:55:26
	Basically, they're living next door to a place that's doing this all the time.	01:55:27
	Right now, you're out of luck.	01:55:30
	You know, the police are not going to keep showing up and.	01:55:32
	So if you can.	01:55:35
	Established murals with some teeth that basically say.	01:55:37
	If you're a bad actor, you'll lose your.	01:55:40
	Ability to do this.	01:55:42
	I think that'd be a great idea, so.	01:55:44
	Thank you for your time.	01:55:46
	Thank you.	01:55:48
	And there are some written public comments. Please bear with me.	01:55:50
	I frequently stay in Airbnb's and I'm very careful to make sure that I don't cause problems for neighbors because usually I have	01:55:54
	to pay a deposit which will only be returned to me if I am a considerate renter.	01:56:00
	The city is in a much better position to hold owners accountable for the behavior of renters.	01:56:06
	HOA's are required by the Davis Sterling Act to warn owners and allow time to remedy.	01:56:11
	Even then, if the HOA finds an owner, they have a right to appeal in the time and paperwork is a burden to the HOA.	01:56:17
	And a little deterrent to careless owner.	01:56:24
	Owners who do short term rentals have monetized our community.	01:56:26
	The extract high nightly rents.	01:56:30
	And their guests can extract a huge toll on our communities.	01:56:33
	There is an Airbnb below me, 80% of the time there is no problem, but without a city ordinance we have no recourse when there is a	01:56:37
	problem.	01:56:41
	One time 8 college students rented A2 bedroom unit below me. They took turns locking each other out with resulted which resulted	01:56:46
	in a lot of yelling and banging on doors.	01:56:50
	Then at 2:00 in the morning when the bars closed, more yelling and banging.	01:56:55
	Another time, someone rented a unit and then invited 30 people to party at our clubhouse.	01:56:59
	Children with huge squirt guns were left unattended in the pool and drenched our pool table.	01:57:05
	The STR owners made money and the other residents had to put up with the sleepless nights and destruction of communal property.	01:57:10
	But I find the dread I feel every time someone arrives to be the worst.	01:57:17
	I have no way to solve the problem.	01:57:21
	Call the police, some have a device. I was told the police do not respond to noise complaints on private property.	01:57:24
	As a taxpayer, I wouldn't want the police to spend time talking to drunk 20 somethings at 2:00 in the morning.	01:57:30
	Call the owner. I don't have their number.	01:57:36
	The ordinance is passed by other coastal communities solve this problem by requiring that owners register with the city and post	01:57:38
	the 24/7 number to call if there is a problem.	01:57:43
	Also, neighbors can file a complaint with the city, and the city can issue a citation with far less bureaucracy than HOA's.	01:57:48
	If an owner tries to do short term rentals without registering with the city, I would not have problem reporting them to city	01:57:55
	enforcement.	01:57:59
	They are profiting from our community and need to pay for some of the expense.	01:58:02
	I appreciate the role the City Council plays in keeping Port winding me. A wonderful place to live.	01:58:07
	I hope you will move forward to protect our community, just as Ventura and Oxnard have done.	01:58:12
	And that is from Paige Le Pen.	01:58:16
	Hello, I am writing to encourage the creation of an ordinance for the city of Port Hueneme similar to the one adopted by Oxnard to	01:58:20
	limit institutional investors and set a cap so we don't have the same problems experience.	01:58:26
	By other coastal.	01:58:33
	Any restricted short term rentals can utterly destroy a community. Thank you and that's Pat Berberich.	01:58:34
	Dear Council members, I would like to lend my support to the consideration of adopting an ordinance to regulate the proliferation	01:58:43
	of short term rentals.	01:58:47
	I think is it important to maintain the residential nature of Port Wine EMI and the unchecked conversion of homes to short term	01:58:51
	rentals.	01:58:55
	Has proven in other communities that investors who are focused primarily on profit can destroy a community.	01:58:58
	And Alley Times article by Jack Fleming on 9/25/24 details the effects of short term rentals on Cayucos near Morro Bay.	01:59:04
	Cayucos used to have a year round population, but the rapid purchase of homes by investors has decreased.	01:59:13
	The year round population so that some of the businesses have failed.	01:59:19
	A similar article in the Malibu magazine identified the same trends with a little more data.	01:59:24
	Based on the 2020 census, the population of Malibu had declined from 12,645 residents.	01:59:29
	To 10,654.	01:59:36
	The difference was the number of short term rentals.	01:59:39
	As more families move out and more LLC's move in, some residents feel like Malibu has lost the feeling of being a community.	01:59:41
	One resident said he is less likely to run into a neighbor than a property manager.	01:59:49
	Or a bleary eye teenager looking for an Airbnb that regularly hosts parties.	01:59:53
	Malibu City Council member Steve Urine says the repercussions go beyond community ties.	01:59:59
	A shrinking population of residents could have a huge impact on the city's economic future.	02:00:04
	From shuttering businesses to cuts in government funding.	02:00:09
	I hope that the city adopts an ordinance that puts a cap on the number of short term rentals and also restricts institutional	02:00:13
	investors.	02:00:16
	The Oxnard ordinance, which was approved by the Coastal Commission.	02:00:20
	As rules which not only cap the percentage of total residences that can be short term rentals.	02:00:24
	But also does not allow for REITs or other speculators to purchase residential homes.	02:00:29
	Thank you, Cynthia.	02:00:35
	And that concludes public comment.	02:00:37
	Thank you, Madam Clerk.	02:00:39
	So we have before us.	02:00:41
	A recommendation to receive this report on short term rental regulations.	02:00:43
	And provide staff with direction.	02:00:48
	May I have a first?	02:00:51
	Motion and a second.	02:00:53
	Motion to move forward with additional community engagement.	02:00:55
	Because.	02:01:00
	At this time I do not have enough information.	02:01:01
	Yes. So let's let's do the motion and then we.	02:01:04
	We've decided to.	02:01:08
	Accept it and then we're going to go to discussion.	02:01:10
	Right, so we have a 1st and.	02:01:13
	2nd.	02:01:17
	Now let's move to discussion.	02:01:18
	So yes. So I don't have enough information to make a.	02:01:20
	Decision on how we should regulate I would like to hear more from.	02:01:23
	The community and also the real estate community as well because they have a.	02:01:27
	They have a part in this is.	02:01:32
	You know, they're one of our shareholders in the community.	02:01:34
	I think that's how we go through with everything and we should just keep that trend.	02:01:38
	As more community engagement.	02:01:42
	I think what I heard.	02:01:44
	Woman Perez says that we want a comprehensive regulation.	02:01:46
	And we wanted.	02:01:50
	Get to that point by having some strong community engagement.	02:01:52
	I can support the recommendation for community engagement, but my I'm really leaning toward moderate regulation.	02:02:00
	For the purpose of building a foundational.	02:02:09
	Ordinance that can be perhaps modified.	02:02:12
	And updated later on has.	02:02:15
	Has our environment and our demographics change?	02:02:18
	What I I envision is that.	02:02:23
	Our city is going to become more attractive in the coming years.	02:02:26
	It's going to become more attractive because what we're doing with our beaches.	02:02:31
	How clean we keep them the swing set for instance.	02:02:35
	What we're doing with Bubbling Springs Park, this is going to become a desirable place to come and vacation.	02:02:39
	So while it might not be.	02:02:45
	The idea of Airbnb is right now might not be a rise to the level of being.	02:02:48
	An issue.	02:02:53
	I think that.	02:02:56
	Thinking of thinking ahead and planning ahead and being proactive.	02:02:58
	Would be a good measure for us to take.	02:03:03
	In terms of what we are hearing or what I'm hearing from residents is.	02:03:07
	They're concerned about corporate investors.	02:03:12
	They're concerned about nuisance problems.	02:03:14
	Parking.	02:03:17
	No point of contact if there's noise complaints.	02:03:19
	And then for us as a city.	02:03:22
	You know, where are we losing out on the transit occupancy tax ability if we.	02:03:24
	Are looking at other sources of revenue.	02:03:29
	We need to look at that transit occupancy tax and see how we can better capitalize on that has a source of revenue.	02:03:34
	So I would like to see us move toward at least a moderate regulation.	02:03:43
	Perhaps if the Council feels that we need more information.	02:03:48
	Umm, you know, I've been working with Paige a little bit. I've read through some of her materials, so I might be a.	02:03:52
	A little further ahead in this issue than.	02:03:58
	Some of the other council members, but.	02:04:01
	Yeah, let's do the community engagement, but I'd like us to see.	02:04:02
	US move toward at least at a minimum.	02:04:07
	Moderate regulation.	02:04:09
	Thank you.	02:04:12
	Yes, so.	02:04:13
	Reading.	02:04:15
	These regulations, these regulatory options that I think.	02:04:19
	All options are on the table right now.	02:04:22
	Of course.	02:04:25
	We're going to have some action.	02:04:26
	It's either going to be moderate, comprehensive and it's going to be up to the staff to come back.	02:04:28
	And brief us on on.	02:04:33
	What the community?	02:04:35
	Actually wants.	02:04:37
	And what's beneficial to to the city and.	02:04:40
	Without, umm.	02:04:43
	You know, inflicting too much pain on our budget as well.	02:04:44
	But.	02:04:47
	Definitely some something has to happen and.	02:04:48
	I think the moderate, comprehensive community engagement is all on the table.	02:04:52
	It's up to staff to come out with.	02:04:56
	You know, with with the community, come back with something that we can.	02:04:58
	We can speak to here in the dais to come up with what we need for our city.	02:05:03
	That's all great. Thank you.	02:05:09
	Go.	02:05:12
	So along those lines.	02:05:13
	Mr. City Manager, how do you feel about?	02:05:16
	Coming back to us with, here's a moderate approach and then here's a comprehensive approach and then perhaps we could.	02:05:18
	Walk through the strengths and weaknesses of each approach and and and also try to.	02:05:25
	Frame it in the terms of, you know, what's our?	02:05:30
	Best long term interest?	02:05:33
	I think.	02:05:34
	That that's probably where we're going to end up, I think.	02:05:36
	The reason why we suggested starting with the community engagement.	02:05:38
	1st is really hearing what the specific concerns are and then crafting.	02:05:42
	Something related to that?	02:05:48
	That's going to be a process we'll come back to council like when as we do a workshop and we get feedback, so there's still going	02:05:50
	to be plenty of time to figure out.	02:05:54
	How strict? Or you know, how moderate? How comprehensive? How?	02:05:58
	How focused to make something so I think the direction.	02:06:02
	Now to just start with the community engagement.	02:06:06
	Let's just start figuring out exactly what.	02:06:10
	What we want to recommend?	02:06:13
	One more thing, you just.	02:06:16
	Triggered something on me so.	02:06:18
	Moderate regulation I see good neighbor and cool.	02:06:20
	Quotes O.	02:06:24
	You know, is that meaning we're just going to rely on the good neighbor approach?	02:06:26
	Versus a more.	02:06:30
	Organized.	02:06:33
	Ordinance approach. So the good neighbor requirements are it's just a term for.	02:06:36
	The requirements that focus on the issues like noise.	02:06:43
	How many people are allowed in each unit of those types of things? Those are called good neighbor requirements because they're	02:06:49
	essentially the things that you would just expect a good neighbor to to be aware of.	02:06:54
	But.	02:07:00
	Cities end up adopting those into ordinance to make sure they're enforceable, so.	02:07:01
	So that that doesn't necessarily specify how that's going to be enforced, it's just.	02:07:06
	All those quality of life issues are the good neighbor required.	02:07:12
	Councilman Hernandez.	02:07:17
	Yeah, just one more comment on.	02:07:20
	Why HOA?	02:07:22
	Aren't carrying the torch on on this issues?	02:07:24
	It's because.	02:07:28
	The Coastal Commission will.	02:07:29
	Accept information or appeals.	02:07:30
	Essentially they they they want to hear from a city, which makes sense.	02:07:34
	Because then we get we can achieve that consistency that Jan was talking about.	02:07:38
	If each HOA were allowed to go to the Commission for their permits.	02:07:43
	We would see a variety of different.	02:07:48
	Models standing up throughout the city and that would be, I think even be.	02:07:51
	Harder for us to regulate and get our hands around so.	02:07:55
	The rules are that it has to be a city that goes before.	02:07:58
	The Coastal Commission.	02:08:02
	Great. Thank you. And I just want to add my two cents. Yeah, so I agree.	02:08:04
	I agree the answer is not no action.	02:08:08
	And also that it's important to have the.	02:08:11
	Our community engagement.	02:08:14
	However, umm.	02:08:16
	I think that.	02:08:18
	Again, no, action is not, should not be a decision.	02:08:20
	And I I'm in line with the moderate regulation and moving to the comprehensive. So let me just ask you.	02:08:24
	Umm. So let's say we say a star.	02:08:32
	Point is the moderate.	02:08:34
	What?	02:08:38
	What might prohibit us from moving quickly to the moderate?	02:08:39
	Is there anything or could we then move to?	02:08:43
	I'm sorry, the comprehensive, moderate to comprehensive, it's really.	02:08:46
	Or let me just say that's possible. Or should we start where we want to be?	02:08:50
	Yeah, I think.	02:08:55
	It's the city always has the ability. Anything we adopt by ordinance, we can always go back and modify. There's really 2	02:08:57
	challenges, one bigger than the other. One is just that.	02:09:02
	Drafting ordinances and adopting them and going through the public hearing process takes time and money, but you know, it's just,	02:09:07
	it's something cities do.	02:09:12
	But the second one that was the focus of the presentation is that.	02:09:17
	It would have to go through that Coastal Commission review again. So if we adopted a moderate regulation, went through that	02:09:21
	process, that process takes a decent amount of time and resources.	02:09:26
	And then we go, this isn't working. We want to go further than this. Then we'd have to go through that process all over again.	02:09:32
	So that's the challenge, but that's where I think starting with the community engagement and hearing what are the key issues we	02:09:39
	need to address and then.	02:09:43
	Bringing that back to Council and then.	02:09:48
	Focusing on those issues.	02:09:50
	I think.	02:09:52
	Will will be a good start.	02:09:53
	Where you know if we if we address those key issues?	02:09:57
	There might be more.	02:10:00
	To do later down the road, but I think that would get us.	02:10:01
	Whereas that's why.	02:10:04
	That's why we aren't.	02:10:06
	We didn't suggest just going straight to crafting an ordinance because I think if we crafted an ordinance today, we could come	02:10:07
	back and everybody could say that's not that doesn't address any of the issues we wanted.	02:10:12
	Any other question?	02:10:18
	Just a quick question. This Coastal Commission required that we start with a community engagement process, a formal one, because I	02:10:20
	feel like we've.	02:10:24
	We've talked about this a couple of Times Now in councils.	02:10:29
	I don't think it's a.	02:10:33
	Specific requirement.	02:10:36
	But well, so we would have to go through a public hearing process.	02:10:38
	To adopt an ordinance to then send it but.	02:10:43
	But I don't think that they require any specific.	02:10:45
	Engagement on top of that.	02:10:49
	So this sounds like.	02:10:52
	This is going to take a long time.	02:10:54
	So I mean, are we gonna drop a date for a workshop?	02:10:57
	I would estimate.	02:11:03
	That we're probably going to do.	02:11:04
	Let's say we do a workshop and a survey.	02:11:08
	I would estimate that process would probably take three to four months and then we'd come back to council.	02:11:11
	And then at that time.	02:11:16
	We'd have to then draft an ordinance and that takes some time and then we have to go through public hearing, which takes.	02:11:18
	You know, 2 meetings and 30 days to adopt SO.	02:11:25
	I do think.	02:11:28
	Even if we were to really fast track it, it would take some time, but I would estimate, you know, probably 4-4 to five months in	02:11:30
	that range.	02:11:34
	And I think.	02:11:40
	Do you want to add something? I was just going to say that in addition to the time that it takes for the city to draft and adopt	02:11:43
	its own ordinance.	02:11:46
	On top of that time.	02:11:50
	We have the Coastal Commission that we have to deal with, so it's not a rapid process.	02:11:51
	And the Coastal Commission time.	02:11:57
	Adds on to that.	02:11:59
	But what I would note is even if we fast track something, let's say we just took Venturas and said let's just adopt this and.	02:12:01
	You know, that'll get us by for a while.	02:12:08
	That would still take.	02:12:10
	A couple months to go through the.	02:12:12
	Public hearing the adoption process, it would still take a couple months to go through Coastal.	02:12:13
	So it's really.	02:12:18
	It's going to take three or four months regardless, so in my opinion, better to do it right than to just try to shave a couple.	02:12:21
	You know, a month off of that process. So do you think that we should have an amnesty for?	02:12:28
	For, you know, go out and say hey.	02:12:34
	Um you need to report your Airbnb. Like come out with the permitting.	02:12:38
	Process.	02:12:44
	To see what our real numbers are.	02:12:45
	I think.	02:12:50
	That throughout this process.	02:12:52
	What we can do is.	02:12:56
	Include some education on it, on reminding people that if they are running one of these that they should be.	02:12:57
	Reporting their.	02:13:03
	Hotel tax and and getting and make sure they have a business license and I think we will.	02:13:05
	Get some of those people to do that, yeah.	02:13:09
	So I got.	02:13:13
	So my my recollection is there's 36 HOA's in the city of Port Hueneme, which is sounds like a really big number and it is.	02:13:15
	So.	02:13:23
	On the community engagement front, I would like to see that we aggressively.	02:13:25
	Contact each.	02:13:32
	Property management company, not necessarily the HOA president, no offense.	02:13:34
	But.	02:13:40
	Because maybe the property management company would be better suited to to get.	02:13:41
	The responses that we want, I don't know a survey or just some kind of notification, so.	02:13:46
	At the end of the process.	02:13:51
	That we're able to say.	02:13:53
	HOA, whatever.	02:13:55
	We sent you 2 notices and you failed to respond.	02:13:57
	I just think it's really important because the number of HOA's that we have in our community.	02:14:00
	To really.	02:14:06
	Go go after each one of them.	02:14:07
	Two times maybe, but just really try to get them to the table because I just feel like.	02:14:10
	Once it gets approved or once we finally get back with an ordinance and someone's not going to like it and then.	02:14:17
	Yeah, and I think that is 1.	02:14:22
	Thing to just be aware of is I think at this point, because we don't have any regulations we haven't heard from.	02:14:26
	Any people who operate these? And so as we start talking about regulations, you will hear that.	02:14:31
	Other side of it of, you know, there's people who make their living.	02:14:37
	Doing short term rentals and.	02:14:40
	Typically when we start having these conversations, you'll hear from both.	02:14:44
	Both sides of the spectrum and everybody in between. So.	02:14:47
	So when we do our community engagement, we'll try to make sure that we get it out to.	02:14:50
	Sort of all sides of it.	02:14:55
	Any other?	02:15:00
	No, I was just.	02:15:03
	Yeah.	02:15:04
	Yeah, let's vote, but I wanted to ask our city manager if our current motion.	02:15:05
	2nd reflects what we have talked about or do you have it?	02:15:11
	I understood the motion was to move forward with community engagement, which is.	02:15:16
	Right in line with what I think we want and need to do so.	02:15:21
	I think.	02:15:27
	We should just confirm that and and vote, but that motion works.	02:15:28
	OK, OK. Yeah, I just wanted to know for the record, it's the.	02:15:33
	A motion to receive the report on short term rental regulations and to move forward with additional community engagement.	02:15:39
	Yes.	02:15:46
	OK, great.	02:15:48
	All in favor.	02:15:50
	Aye, all opposed.	02:15:51
	Hearing none, motion passes unanimously.	02:15:53
	Thank you.	02:15:56
	We'll now move on to #12 request for use of city resources in support of REACH nonprofits programs and activities.	02:15:57
	Will staff please present the report?	02:16:04
	Yes, and.	02:16:09
	Our deputy city manager, Charles Parrots, will be providing that.	02:16:11
	Because I'm tired after the short term.	02:16:18
	Good evening once again, members of Council, fellow staff, members of the public.	02:16:23
	Item number 12.	02:16:28
	Pertains to two items pertaining to REACH so incorporated as recreation, education, activities and culture in Winimi REACH	02:16:31
	operates.	02:16:35
	As a 501C3 entity independent of the city.	02:16:40
	At the November 4th, 2024 meeting, the Council approved.	02:16:45
	An action to eliminate.	02:16:49
	The council appointed position on the REACH Board.	02:16:51
	Further underscoring reaches separation from the city and operation as an independent body.	02:16:54
	At the December 2nd, 2024 meeting, then Councilmember Martinez made two reach related.	02:16:59
	Motions, both of which were unanimously approved by the City Council.	02:17:05
	The first was to have a future agenda item to consider. Reaches request to utilize the Miranda Park storage area.	02:17:09
	And the second was to allow the council to consider reaches proposed utility box beautification project.	02:17:16
	And to use staff resources to support that project.	02:17:22
	Both of these items.	02:17:26
	Both of these items request the use of staff resources and therefore require Council consideration and approval.	02:17:28
	With regard to the storage area at Miranda Park, Reach has expressed interest in using 1/2 of the area to store event related	02:17:36
	materials including tables, chairs.	02:17:40
	And other supplies that would be used to support community programs.	02:17:45
	Their intention is to use the space year round to accommodate ongoing community engagement initiatives like pickleball	02:17:48
	tournaments.	02:17:52
	City beautification projects and other events that are in line with Reaches Mission.	02:17:55
	If council approves the recommendation, the city manager would execute the draft agreement that's included in the staff report.	02:18:00
	With regard to the utility Utility box beautification project.	02:18:07
	Reach has indicated a desire to enhance the aesthetics.	02:18:11
	Of city utility boxes and has asked for staff resources that would assist.	02:18:14
	Staff is recommending that the council consider the use of no more than 25 hours of staff time.	02:18:19
	That would help with the identification of the location and ownership of the boxes.	02:18:25
	Coordination with any utility companies that are owned the boxes.	02:18:29
	The issuance of city permits that may be required for the project.	02:18:33
	Assist with public awareness about the program.	02:18:36
	And work with REACH to identify maintenance responsibilities.	02:18:39
	With any increased maintenance costs being assumed by Reach.	02:18:42
	Staff doesn't have a written proposal or.	02:18:46
	Additional detailed information about the project.	02:18:49
	But REACH representatives are present should Council have specific questions about the project.	02:18:52
	Can I add just one thing? I'm sorry.	02:19:00
	So.	02:19:03
	Utility box project.	02:19:05
	It's sort of being presented as the proposal.	02:19:07
	From reach to.	02:19:10
	To kind of.	02:19:13
	Run with the project, but with some staff support.	02:19:15
	Identifying the.	02:19:19
	Boxes that you know that can be used and and which ones are owned by which agencies and those types of things.	02:19:21
	Because it's that.	02:19:29
	Structured that way.	02:19:31
	It doesn't have.	02:19:33
	Built into that process.	02:19:35
	Sort of the typical.	02:19:37
	Process which would be like the.	02:19:39
	Like a site map coming back to the council or?	02:19:42
	Renderings coming back to the Council as an example, it's sort of proposed to be really like a reach project.	02:19:46
	But that is something that the Council.	02:19:52
	We want to make sure the Council understands that because.	02:19:56
	That is something that the Council has the ability to say. We would like to see, you know, a site map or.	02:20:00
	Renderings.	02:20:06
	Or essentially, you know, the council could say it's a reach project.	02:20:07
	We do or do not want to be involved to that level, so.	02:20:13
	I just wanted to highlight that because that is sort of.	02:20:17
	Pending question, if that project is to move forward, is what level of involvement the Council wants.	02:20:20
	Councilmember Gama.	02:20:28
	How many boxes are we talking about and do these?	02:20:30
	Include Edison boxes and I think I've noticed in surrounding cities that.	02:20:34
	Sometimes.	02:20:41
	Boxes aligned to different organizations within the city so.	02:20:44
	I would just ask that we get a site map and then.	02:20:49
	At some point get a.	02:20:53
	A description of.	02:20:56
	What?	02:20:59
	What the?	02:21:00
	Genre, if you will.	02:21:05
	Like are we going to go with coastal art or are we going to go with?	02:21:06
	You know, umm.	02:21:10
	Pickleball. Art. I mean, what? What are we? What are we?	02:21:11
	What are we going to get out of this project? So I would just like to.	02:21:15
	Sitemap renderings and then.	02:21:18
	Go for it.	02:21:22
	Mayor, are we doing questions only at this time?	02:21:23
	And so to answer the.	02:21:26
	First question, well my suggestion would be.	02:21:29
	I know we have representatives from reach here so.	02:21:31
	My suggestion would be.	02:21:35
	Initially to direct the questions to.	02:21:37
	The representatives of.	02:21:39
	Reach umm.	02:21:40
	My question was how many boxes are we talking? How many boxes and then which?	02:21:42
	Are they city owned utility boxes or?	02:21:47
	All utility.	02:21:50
	Company boxes, yes, you can come up. I did have a question for you.	02:21:53
	City Manager.	02:21:57
	So see 25 hours.	02:21:58
	So what happens?	02:22:02
	When we get to 25 hours.	02:22:05
	And we haven't.	02:22:08
	Provided the information that's needed for, then reach to go out and do.	02:22:10
	Something. Mm-hmm.	02:22:14
	So is there is that a concern at all?	02:22:15
	Or, or do we think we'll be able to provide in 25 hours what we need to provide them for them to be able to go forward and do the	02:22:18
	work? We attempted to estimate and then I think we estimated 20 and we added five just in case.	02:22:27
	So that's our best estimate, but it is intended to right now function as sort of a cap so that it's not just open-ended. If we get	02:22:36
	to the point where at 25 and it's clear that it's there, it's going to be another chunk of.	02:22:42
	Staff time or resources?	02:22:48
	Right now, the way we would.	02:22:50
	We would proceed as we would.	02:22:53
	Return to council and say OK, this project is you know.	02:22:55
	At this point and it's going to take an additional 20 hours of staff time, you know, so.	02:22:59
	So we would use this.	02:23:04
	Really like a cap at this point of.	02:23:06
	This is what the council's preauthorized and if we are going to go over that, then we need to go back to the council, right? So,	02:23:09
	and I'm asking the question because we've had a conversation about reach and being a nonprofit.	02:23:14
	And how, how much the city is going to support.	02:23:20
	And so we've had that conversation. So I just want to make sure that we.	02:23:23
	Are still continuing to have that conversation and it doesn't turn into.	02:23:26
	Yes, now.	02:23:31
	Yeah, it's the challenge.	02:23:32
	In a nutshell, you know the city supported Reach and it was sort of one in the same for a long time. And recently we as a city and	02:23:35
	Reach, Reach requested that it become its own entity.	02:23:41
	We recommend it as staff and the council approved that that would be better for all, as if they were truly too independent	02:23:48
	entities.	02:23:52
	So this is.	02:23:56
	Sort of the growing pains of that of, OK, so now that we've separated, realizing things that the city had done previously, that	02:23:59
	really can't just be.	02:24:04
	Assumed anymore.	02:24:08
	And trying to give it some structure. So the idea with this was not to take reach like back as a city entity, but to say you know.	02:24:10
	Essentially, with the Council support this project and in doing so.	02:24:19
	You know, commit.	02:24:22
	These resources, but no more than those resources. I think a follow up conversation was.	02:24:23
	OK, if any nonprofit came in and asked for support.	02:24:29
	Would we approve that?	02:24:34
	Right. So, yeah.	02:24:37
	Yeah, I have a question.	02:24:38
	Councilmember.	02:24:40
	So I'm assuming this is going to be an art project. Are you going to be engaging the community, asking for volunteers? Is this	02:24:42
	going to be a fundraiser? How are you seeing the art project?	02:24:47
	OK, yes. And just for clarification.	02:24:53
	I just want to say.	02:24:57
	Good evening, Mayor McQueen, Le John and Mayor Pro Tem Lopez.	02:24:58
	City Council's, city staff and members of the public. My name is Bobby Martinez.	02:25:04
	I am the Vice President of REACH and with my colleague Tom Fiala, the Treasurer, we are representing REACH.	02:25:09
	This is a 2 part.	02:25:18
	Request. But to answer Councilmember Perez's question, we are.	02:25:19
	Going to be looking to work with other organizations including the Winnemi Elementary School District and really anybody that	02:25:25
	wants to join in on this.	02:25:29
	Beautification project of our city.	02:25:35
	We've had the vision of.	02:25:37
	Beautifying the city by painting the electrical boxes.	02:25:39
	And.	02:25:43
	We don't necessarily have all the themes.	02:25:44
	But I think it be things that everybody would.	02:25:47
	Would agree on that would.	02:25:50
	Represent our city, a little bit of a history.	02:25:52
	The beach.	02:25:55
	The military presence in the city.	02:25:56
	But we're really just asking for.	02:26:00
	Permission to get started with the project. I'm not sure if that answers your question or if you were looking for a couple more	02:26:02
	specifics, but we don't.	02:26:05
	We don't have all necessarily all the specifics until.	02:26:09
	This request gets approved.	02:26:12
	OK, no, I was just curious to see if that was what you had in mind, but.	02:26:16
	We do have the idea of including the youth in the community.	02:26:19
	That's also going to depend on the artist.	02:26:24
	And they get the the projects but.	02:26:27
	Our plan is to fund the.	02:26:30
	The art and painting of the electrical boxes.	02:26:32
	OK. Thank you.	02:26:36
	So yeah, I have a question. So Art.	02:26:37
	Are you going to bring the design to the Council before?	02:26:40
	Moving forward with.	02:26:43
	Painting so.	02:26:45
	As with our.	02:26:47
	Mural at the library.	02:26:49
	We saw that.	02:26:52
	You know, there was a lot of back and forth.	02:26:53
	I don't, I don't think our plan is to keep bringing back. Is this what council approves?	02:26:55
	As a matter of fact, we want.	02:27:00
	Allow the artists to.	02:27:02
	Get creative and.	02:27:04
	And basically.	02:27:06
	You know, make some beautiful art. But we do have some topics in mind like I mentioned.	02:27:08
	Military.	02:27:14
	The Chumash.	02:27:17
	The beach.	02:27:19
	Nature.	02:27:21
	And I guess any other topics that you you would also seem as appropriate for this project?	02:27:22
	I think those are. That's it, I mean.	02:27:29
	That's our city, military beach island.	02:27:31
	Port.	02:27:35
	Port, I mean ships.	02:27:35
	But again, back to the.	02:27:38
	I get confused like because we don't.	02:27:41
	Own the electric.	02:27:44
	Transform green boxes, correct?	02:27:47
	That's not our.	02:27:50
	Stuff.	02:27:51
	There are boxes and I think I can actually answer so the boxes fall under three different categories.	02:27:52
	They're either owned by Edison. They're all put in by Edison, by the way, and they're all maintained by Edison.	02:27:59
	It who is the one that's going to pay for the maintenance of it?	02:28:04
	So it either falls under Edison.	02:28:09
	It falls under the city or it's privately owned. For instance if you go outside of adding cappuccino.	02:28:11
	There's a box right there. It's actually owned by the owner of that complex, so.	02:28:17
	If damage were to happen, obviously Edison would come and pick it would fix it, but he has to pay Edison for the maintenance of	02:28:22
	it.	02:28:26
	So what we're just concentrating on right now is the ones that are owned by the city and that's what we don't know right yet.	02:28:30
	That's what, that's the 25 hours. That's part of the 25 hours.	02:28:37
	That we're looking to identify which ones are owned by the specifics specifically.	02:28:41
	In in reference to what Bobby was saying about the the the the the topics.	02:28:46
	Of each.	02:28:52
	Mural umm.	02:28:53
	Like the VFW is actually going to fund two of them.	02:28:54
	So it's not necessarily going to be just funded by.	02:28:58
	Reach There are other organizations within.	02:29:01
	The community that are actually going to pay for that, like the VFW is going to do the two.	02:29:05
	There's one on Ventura in Pleasant Valley, and there's one at Sun Kissed in Pleasant Valley, OR.	02:29:10
	Sun Kissed and Ventura.	02:29:15
	The VFW is going to pay for that.	02:29:17
	Those owned by the city.	02:29:19
	Those two are because they're actually.	02:29:21
	They're actually not electrical boxes, they're.	02:29:24
	The the boxes that control the traffic lights.	02:29:26
	And they look the same, though they they all look crappy so.	02:29:31
	That's why we want to pay them.	02:29:35
	So again, I just think if we could get a map.	02:29:37
	We don't have that. All we know what we do know right now is the 8.	02:29:40
	Traffic light boxes, we know where those are.	02:29:46
	Charles gave that to us a while back.	02:29:49
	So we do have those, the electrical boxes, we actually don't have that list yet.	02:29:52
	So we don't know which ones are owned by Edison. So the idea is.	02:29:57
	Identify which ones are by the city.	02:30:00
	Go to Edison, identify which ones are by them.	02:30:02
	And what's leftover is privately owned.	02:30:05
	And we'll go to that individual owner.	02:30:08
	As it goes on, we only want to do about 5.	02:30:10
	4568 something like that.	02:30:13
	Just to get an idea.	02:30:17
	Because there's like, there's got to be 60 of them. So we don't want to blast them all at once. We kind of gotta want to get the	02:30:19
	community to come back and ask us.	02:30:23
	Or give their feedback.	02:30:27
	And like you, we had like we had said earlier, there would be beach theme along.	02:30:29
	Surfside.	02:30:34
	You know, and then schooled themed by the schools, the VFW and military themed.	02:30:36
	Along the base.	02:30:42
	And then?	02:30:44
	You know, we'll mix it up with other things.	02:30:46
	Now I'm going to sit down.	02:30:48
	Will they? Will they be wrapped?	02:30:49
	Like once you do the painting on them.	02:30:53
	Wrapped so that they're not. You don't really. We haven't got that far yet. Thank you.	02:30:55
	All we know is there's boxes that need to be painted. That's all we got.	02:30:59
	Question Mayor Pro Tem.	02:31:04
	I just have one last question, the storage.	02:31:05
	Facility.	02:31:09
	Umm what? What are you guys gonna use that for?	02:31:11
	Excuse me, the storage.	02:31:14
	In regards to the storage.	02:31:16
	When I first got on council I was using it for all the.	02:31:19
	Activities that I was doing in the city. So I ran about 24 different events in the city, basketball, soccer.	02:31:23
	We even did a baseball, volleyball, so we have some equipment and so that equipment was purchased.	02:31:30
	I believe by the by reach and.	02:31:37
	Some of it was provided by the city and.	02:31:40
	That's where we would want to store some of those items.	02:31:43
	Since.	02:31:47
	Reach has now become.	02:31:49
	A working committee.	02:31:52
	In the last six months we have done 2 pickleball tournaments.	02:31:54
	Fairly inexpensive compared to other pickleball tournaments and those.	02:31:58
	Have been used to provide some of the funds for this art, including also one of the other things that we would want to do.	02:32:02
	Is purchase the windscreens that have been damaged?	02:32:08
	Miranda Park for the pickleball.	02:32:12
	Courts. So we.	02:32:14
	As of right now, I know that there's space there and we would want to use that space to continue to store some of the items that	02:32:17
	Reach is using because we don't technically have a physical location we we were previously using.	02:32:23
	Using some of the city resources.	02:32:29
	And I think this would only make it easy for.	02:32:32
	Reach to continue to provide.	02:32:35
	Some of these citywide events.	02:32:37
	Including more pickleball tournaments and maybe basketball tournaments, which is something that we've been talking about, but.	02:32:40
	Yeah, both of these two items would would help fulfill our mission here on.	02:32:49
	Reach. So what's what's in the storage?	02:32:54
	Building besides.	02:32:58
	Reaches equipment.	02:33:00
	Like how are we going to segregate it?	02:33:03
	Yeah. So I believe most of the equipment in that specific.	02:33:05
	Room.	02:33:09
	Our closet if you want to call it it has a sporting equipment and I think some of its like old tennis equipment.	02:33:10
	Which I don't know who's using it.	02:33:17
	You know, but if we did.	02:33:20
	Get the authority to use this room, we would clean it out and use it for more supporting equipment. But as of right now I want to	02:33:22
	say half of it is.	02:33:26
	Mystery to me, but it's a lot of tennis.	02:33:31
	Tennis related equipment.	02:33:34
	And then the other half.	02:33:36
	Still actually has some of our equipment, including some soccer courts, pickleball paddles.	02:33:38
	Soccer balls.	02:33:45
	And baseball equipment.	02:33:47
	Mr. City Manager, Mr. Mayor, I have a question about the.	02:33:49
	This A few years ago we got a report.	02:33:52
	By our facilities director that this building was.	02:33:56
	Condemned.	02:33:59
	And the roof had to be replaced. We were not able to do anything with it.	02:34:00
	Has that since been changed?	02:34:04
	The roof has not been replaced.	02:34:07
	And needs to be replaced.	02:34:10
	But it's.	02:34:12
	It's not.	02:34:14
	Condemned. Yeah.	02:34:16
	In the in the in the legal sense.	02:34:17
	We, I think.	02:34:20
	Yeah, not meant for habitation, not meant for use. I think our thought is it's.	02:34:22
	Is. It's really not?	02:34:27
	Usable for like the uses we'd want to use it for, but for now, you know, it has a leaky roof, but it can be used to just store	02:34:29
	some equipment really. So just to clarify, it's not the entire building, it's just.	02:34:35
	I guess a closet in the back.	02:34:43
	In terms of dimensions, I don't have them off.	02:34:46
	Top of my head, but I'm trying to visualize them. Right now I would say it's anywhere between like.	02:34:48
	Six to maybe 15-6 by 815 feet.	02:34:53
	Maybe at most.	02:34:58
	So I'm gonna date myself.	02:34:59
	Going back like many years ago, we used to have HOA meetings in that.	02:35:01
	Facility umm.	02:35:05
	I think it's a great facility and I think as long as the engineering.	02:35:07
	Has been done and if it's safe, I think I think it'd be a great place.	02:35:11
	For reach.	02:35:16
	Have its headquarters.	02:35:18
	I mean, it really is. Well, it's it's Oh yeah, but maybe the whole building. But this is just the, it's a small storage room,	02:35:19
	right?	02:35:23
	But again, like I said, if it's.	02:35:27
	The building is not being used if it's.	02:35:30
	Determined to be safe to be used, then it could be a really good resource for reach and it's not being used right now.	02:35:32
	And then of course, you'd be doing your soccer tournaments, basketball tournaments. I think it sounds a great idea.	02:35:39
	I don't want to go too far into it, but.	02:35:45
	Since we're mentioning this, is this the?	02:35:47
	Building.	02:35:51
	That was talked about in the other.	02:35:53
	A meeting building at Miranda Park.	02:35:56
	What is that?	02:35:58
	In the recreation fees item.	02:36:00
	It was referenced as a reference point.	02:36:03
	For the new community room at Bubbling Springs, which is about half the size. So this is the building, but again, as Mr. Martinez	02:36:05
	indicated, we're not talking about use of the entire building, just the storage area.	02:36:11
	And answer Mayor Pro Tem's question before the majority of the equipment in there, as Mr. Martinez referenced is?	02:36:17
	Items that were purchased either directly by him or by reach for activities and programs that were run.	02:36:25
	Through volunteer programs or REACH programs at the park.	02:36:31
	There's a de minimis amount of city equipment in there.	02:36:33
	And it's not actively used by the city, so it's.	02:36:37
	Used by REACH would not adversely impact city operations.	02:36:40
	Great. I was just trying to make that connection if that's what you were talking about when you said that space.	02:36:44
	Yeah, that actually I was referring to the.	02:36:49
	When it was.	02:36:52
	Used as a rental space, that is it the building, not not the storage area.	02:36:54
	But the same building. So the storage area is just an offshoot of the meeting room. The meeting room, as we referenced before, is	02:36:59
	not appropriate for ongoing use at this time. Thank you. Answer my question, but that's the space.	02:37:04
	Yes, thank you.	02:37:10
	It's not appropriate for because. Why?	02:37:12
	I just as the city manager mentioned, it's not condemned, but there are roofing issues and work that would need to be done for	02:37:17
	ongoing.	02:37:21
	Rentals and active use of the Community Room.	02:37:24
	And roofs are expensive now. I would I my guess is, you know, maybe.	02:37:28
	Years ago maybe that was a $50,000 estimate. My guest now is 200 and.	02:37:34
	50,000 maybe?	02:37:39
	OK, great. Great. Any Madam Clerk, do we have any public comments? No public comments. Great. Thank you.	02:37:42
	May I just mentioned that we would be in, We would be if we get the approval for the.	02:37:49
	Beautifying the utility boxes.	02:37:55
	We would be responsible for paying for for the artists to come do the art.	02:37:58
	And just I just want to clear it, clarify that. Great. Thank you. Thank you.	02:38:02
	Do we? Do we have consensus for a site map?	02:38:08
	Or would we just?	02:38:12
	Yeah, go ahead.	02:38:16
	Yeah, it's my understanding there is a list.	02:38:18
	It's not mapped out, but there is a list. Would that be sufficient for you?	02:38:20
	To see a list.	02:38:27
	The city has a list.	02:38:28
	I think the challenge and like hearing the thought is.	02:38:30
	It's it could be other boxes that aren't on our list. And so I think that was what I heard because we gave the list of.	02:38:34
	Our boxes, but it could be other utility boxes.	02:38:42
	So I I do think.	02:38:45
	You know, not wanting to burden reach and not wanting to create a situation where, you know, we're doing multiple renderings of of	02:38:47
	things. I know we want to avoid that, but.	02:38:52
	I think.	02:38:57
	Maybe approving it with the requirement that a site map with the theme, like identifying which ones will be done with the theme	02:38:58
	would be maybe a good middle ground. That's good.	02:39:04
	So we have before us.	02:39:10
	To authorize the City manager to execute an agreement, allow and reach to utilize storage space at Miranda Park.	02:39:12
	And approve reaches proposed project to beautify.	02:39:19
	Utility boxes within the city boundaries supported.	02:39:23
	No more than 25 hours of staff time and waiving fees associated with.	02:39:27
	With applicable.	02:39:32
	City permits. May I have a motion in a second?	02:39:34
	So moved.	02:39:37
	Any further discussion?	02:39:40
	If not, Madam Clerk, can we please have a vote?	02:39:42
	All in favor.	02:39:45
	All opposed.	02:39:46
	Hearing none, motion passes unanimously.	02:39:48
	I just want to say thank you and if this is a successful project.	02:39:50
	Just know we have goals of continuing, continuing to beautify the city, maybe even the lifeguard towers.	02:39:54
	Or any other ideas that you may have?	02:40:00
	Great. Thank you. Thank you, Thank you.	02:40:02
	OK, we're going to move on to our city manager. Comments and reports.	02:40:05
	OK, just.	02:40:17
	Quickly, we only have a few things.	02:40:19
	Today we wanted to.	02:40:21
	Remind people to make their plans to visit Winnie Me Beach as we recently celebrated the.	02:40:23
	Reopening of our Winimi Beach swing set with their first ever accessible swing set on Winimi Beach.	02:40:29
	Unfortunately we planned it on the one day of rain so so we had our grand opening. It was a good turnout from our staff but.	02:40:37
	And maybe not. The public didn't think it was worth coming out in the rain. So.	02:40:46
	But we've seen people out there every day since, so I think people are getting seeing it and visiting so.	02:40:52
	That is open and people can check that out now.	02:41:00
	And start.	02:41:04
	Preparing for When Amy Beach Fest as well, which is scheduled to be held on July 12 to 13th.	02:41:07
	So we expect to.	02:41:13
	Have.	02:41:16
	A good event in another excuse for people to come and check out the beach in the swing set that weekend.	02:41:18
	We do.	02:41:25
	With the Beach Fest being in July, we are trying to get ahead on something so we will expect to launch our vendor applications.	02:41:27
	In the next couple of weeks.	02:41:35
	And so on our website and Facebook page, we'll be posting more information about those, but they should be coming soon.	02:41:37
	Another event at the beach and another excuse to come check out the beach is.	02:41:46
	Our March 22nd.	02:41:51
	Community Benefit fund.	02:41:54
	Partnership project with the port.	02:41:56
	See Splash Color 5K and Kids 1K with the free Health and Wellness Fair.	02:41:58
	We.	02:42:04
	Have.	02:42:06
	600 spots this year.	02:42:07
	Because we sold out so quickly last year.	02:42:11
	I think it's been open for about a week and I think we have a couple 100 people signed up. So we do think we're on pace to sell	02:42:13
	out so.	02:42:17
	Anybody who's interested may want to register sooner rather than later.	02:42:21
	But that event is on March 22nd. Registration is open now.	02:42:26
	And people can visit.	02:42:31
	Our website to get more information on signing up so.	02:42:34
	And it's a $20 registration for the 5K event and the Kids 1K is $10.	02:42:41
	And then?	02:42:48
	Last, for the March 3rd agenda, right now we are looking at.	02:42:50
	We have the following items currently scheduled.	02:42:56
	We have a presentation from Public Works regarding completion of the sewer, sewer main line repair, which we are finishing that.	02:42:59
	Major project.	02:43:07
	Now.	02:43:08
	We have on.	02:43:10
	Consent will have the second reading of the off leash.	02:43:13
	The dog park.	02:43:19
	Amendments that were introduced today.	02:43:21
	We also have the notice of completion for the westbound Chen Islands resurfacing project.	02:43:24
	We'll have a public hearing item related to electronic signatures for Fair Political Practices Commission forms.	02:43:28
	It's required, the council is required to adopt an ordinance to allow for electronic signatures on those forms.	02:43:36
	Really a housekeeping item, but it requires an ordinance in a public hearing.	02:43:43
	And then we have.	02:43:47
	Three business items planned.	02:43:48
	The strategic partnership discussion we talked about a couple meetings ago, we'll bring that back.	02:43:50
	The.	02:43:57
	Item 2.	02:44:00
	To designate the RDP representative.	02:44:02
	And the.	02:44:06
	DC trip talking points for the RDP DC trip.	02:44:08
	And then?	02:44:14
	We're bringing back the term limit discussion for Citizen Advisory Commission and Measure U.	02:44:16
	As well as the final appointments for those two committees.	02:44:21
	Right now, those are what we have scheduled for March 3rd.	02:44:25
	And.	02:44:30
	That's everything I have tonight.	02:44:31
	Great. Thank you. We'll go to the Council members for reporting.	02:44:36
	Thank you. I just have one report.	02:44:42
	On the SCAG meeting that I attended on the 6th, there was a really good overview.	02:44:45
	Of the State of Emergency Management in California.	02:44:50
	The disaster preparedness, the follow up How to take care of areas that were hit by disaster.	02:44:54
	What went wrong?	02:45:01
	What went right and how to improve efforts and a lot of good tips and information from a lot of different agencies and	02:45:03
	organizations.	02:45:08
	That's it.	02:45:13
	Thank you, Councilmember Gama.	02:45:14
	Have nothing to report for meetings, but I do have a comment to make.	02:45:16
	You know, a while ago we talked about the surfer mentality looking ahead and well, I appreciate the fact that we were able to get	02:45:20
	the dredge here this year.	02:45:25
	We're falling.	02:45:31
	Far short on what is needed to sustain Winimi Beach into the future, We just celebrated the opening of the.	02:45:33
	Swing set.	02:45:40
	And.	02:45:41
	The numbers as I look at them right now, we're projected to get 1,000,000 cubic yards of sand.	02:45:42
	Which is 1.4 million cubic yards short of what?	02:45:49
	Is needed to sustain Waeneme Beach and so.	02:45:54
	If we don't get any.	02:45:58
	Additional sand between now and two years from now.	02:46:00
	We're going to have a real problem, and that problem could be.	02:46:04
	Fire pits falling into the ocean. Swing set falling into the ocean.	02:46:08
	And you know.	02:46:13
	It's really frustrating because two years ago we celebrated.	02:46:16
	We got 2.5 million cubic yards of sand, which was the first time we ever exceeded.	02:46:20
	The goal?	02:46:25
	And then?	02:46:26
	I don't know what happened, but here we are.	02:46:28
	Following dramatically short and.	02:46:30
	We absolutely need to.	02:46:34
	Come up with a plan.	02:46:38
	To deal with this.	02:46:40
	If we just.	02:46:42
	Put our heads in the sand and.	02:46:43
	Look 2 years from now and expect.	02:46:45
	Everything to be.	02:46:47
	Great. We could be back in this situation that happened 10 years ago and I'm just.	02:46:48
	Really depressing so.	02:46:53
	Just wanted to make these comments to make sure all of us up here understand that no, this is this is really about sustainability.	02:46:55
	And we need to come up with a plan.	02:47:03
	And so I'll be making a request for a agenda item so that we could.	02:47:06
	Begin to figure out where we go from here.	02:47:10
	Get to.	02:47:14
	Ventura County Animal Services meeting this Thursday and the Beacon meetings coming up next Friday. So.	02:47:15
	Next meeting I'll be able to report those out.	02:47:22
	We're going to go back really quickly.	02:47:24
	To add to my comment, that video is recorded and available to the public if anybody is interested in hearing what was said during	02:47:26
	that meeting.	02:47:30
	Councilman Hernandez.	02:47:37
	Thank you, Mayor.	02:47:38
	I've attended a.	02:47:40
	A number of SCAG meetings in the last couple of weeks 1 was.	02:47:42
	Also to address emergency preparedness. I don't know if it's the same one where Lucy Jones spoke and.	02:47:46
	Different representatives from the.	02:47:52
	From LA area spoke about preparedness in other issues.	02:47:55
	So very good meeting and.	02:48:00
	Also learned of some new tools and technology that I've shared with the on traffic analysis which I've shared with the.	02:48:03
	City Manager.	02:48:09
	Umm, I've attended.	02:48:11
	At least three.	02:48:15
	Clean Power Alliance meetings since being appointed to the committee.	02:48:18
	One orientation, one actual board meeting.	02:48:22
	And then I met with some constituents on Monday, yesterday.	02:48:26
	And fortunately, I was able to get Joe Cabral to come along with us so he could sit and.	02:48:32
	Help answer questions from some of the members of Waeneme Bay WHO.	02:48:38
	Were wondering about their what their bill was going to look like, why we're doing this, the different tiers.	02:48:42
	I think it was quite helpful and it was for me a good train the trainer on how to talk to constituents about.	02:48:50
	This change over to.	02:48:56
	The Clean Power Alliance program.	02:48:58
	Other than that, I oh this morning I attended V Cog Executive committee.	02:49:01
	Meeting where we interviewed.	02:49:09
	Candidates for the.	02:49:12
	Executive Director position, so we're looking forward to hearing.	02:49:15
	The outcome of that in the next couple of weeks, who was selected?	02:49:20
	Umm, and I just wanted to also say thank you to Lupe Acero, who has moved on to BCTC.	02:49:25
	Umm, we didn't get a chance to say goodbye to her, but I just want to publicly thank her for her years of service here.	02:49:33
	And she will be greatly missed.	02:49:39
	Thank you.	02:49:41
	We're going to go back to council.	02:49:42
	Thank you, Mayor.	02:49:44
	So earlier tonight there was an Air Pollution Control Board committee meeting where they're going to be voting on new rules, which	02:49:45
	I couldn't attend because I was here.	02:49:50
	They want to increase their air pollution.	02:49:55
	Credit permitting.	02:49:58
	Fees.	02:50:00
	5% a year over the next three years.	02:50:02
	And I'm following up on the.	02:50:05
	Dredge situation.	02:50:09
	The conversation I had this morning with the staff over there was trying to understand the the.	02:50:12
	Air pollution credits.	02:50:18
	That we ran out of.	02:50:20
	Last read cycle and they shut us down for a month.	02:50:22
	I'm trying to understand how.	02:50:26
	This latest.	02:50:28
	Situation with the Army Corps engineers and the dredging process and the air pollution credits are they issued for.	02:50:30
	A. This period only and.	02:50:37
	What do we have to do to start?	02:50:41
	For example, let's say if we were able to get the dredge back in a year.	02:50:44
	Which we really need to.	02:50:48
	You know how, how do we go about?	02:50:50
	Ascertain the appropriate air pollution control credit. So it's really complicated and I wish I could understand it, but I don't.	02:50:52
	So I think.	02:51:01
	And it I think that's.	02:51:02
	Not like I said, we.	02:51:05
	We need to start these conversations now to understand how.	02:51:07
	This is going to be affected and.	02:51:10
	Intertwined together so.	02:51:13
	I attended 2 events. One was the Cal Cities veterans.	02:51:20
	Group best practices for all cities. Got a lot of good info on what?	02:51:24
	What kind of services?	02:51:30
	Other cities provide.	02:51:32
	And it was. There was a lot of.	02:51:35
	Good best practices. So I got this.	02:51:37
	Report, then I'm gonna.	02:51:40
	Consolidating some ideas that we could probably bring here with.	02:51:42
	Which really doesn't cost anything.	02:51:47
	And I'll share it with the city manager.	02:51:49
	That was the first time Cal Cities hosted that.	02:51:53
	I also attended the Ports Mou.	02:51:58
	Signing with New York Lines.	02:52:01
	Green corridor for autos.	02:52:03
	Just a pretty cool ceremony with.	02:52:06
	You know, they're the partnerships for that green corridor.	02:52:12
	For the port.	02:52:15
	And.	02:52:16
	Yeah, that was it.	02:52:17
	Great. Thank you.	02:52:21
	Couple of things.	02:52:23
	I was looking at the dates.	02:52:25
	Of the 5K and the beach festival and I think I'm unavailable for both of those states. I just want to.	02:52:27
	Preparing for the RDP DC trip.	02:52:35
	It's from the 23rd.	02:52:39
	To the 27th, but I'll be attending my very first.	02:52:41
	VCTC.	02:52:45
	Budget meeting on the 24th, so I'll be departing after that meeting.	02:52:47
	So I'll be gone the 24th through the 27th.	02:52:52
	I'm going to try to go to the Savvy Senior event, which is this Thursday.	02:52:55
	And so I got a couple of things on the calendar, but I'm going to try to sneak that in.	02:53:01
	Then just want to let you all know officially.	02:53:07
	I have been.	02:53:11
	Elected to.	02:53:13
	As the chair for a PCD.	02:53:15
	GCTD.	02:53:18
	And Vice Chair for VCTC.	02:53:20
	And then also.	02:53:24
	Participated in.	02:53:26
	My VR.	02:53:29
	Meetings this week so.	02:53:30
	Started back. They were out the month of January, so it looks like they're back and running.	02:53:32
	That's what I in the other thing.	02:53:39
	I think I'll.	02:53:42
	The other thing I want to.	02:53:44
	Let me hold it to the agenda for the agenda.	02:53:51
	So that's all I have, so we'll move.	02:53:54
	To the request for future agenda items.	02:53:56
	I'd like to remind the council members that all requests must get a motion and a second and a majority vote.	02:54:00
	Does anyone have?	02:54:07
	Councilmember.	02:54:09
	Yes, while I was out in winning eBay, I had some.	02:54:10
	Residents talking about.	02:54:15
	Improving the visibility of the.	02:54:17
	Street sign when they're coming up Channel Islands Blvd. especially at night they can't see it and they were asking if.	02:54:21
	Some reflective paint can be applied to it so that they could see it better.	02:54:26
	They understand that they can't.	02:54:31
	Have a light underneath it, but some way of making the sign more visible at night.	02:54:33
	I have questions but I guess.	02:54:41
	They this is.	02:54:43
	The future agenda item portion, so I guess I'll.	02:54:47
	The first question is whether the Council will put it on the agenda, but then after that's decided I'll have questions about	02:54:50
	exactly what they're looking for, so.	02:54:54
	A Lido or Lido sign.	02:54:59
	OK.	02:55:01
	Showing them where the street they it's not visible.	02:55:08
	Their sign not a city sign, correct?	02:55:10
	So it's street sign. It's a request for an item.	02:55:13
	I I guess.	02:55:18
	The part I'm struggling with.	02:55:19
	So it sounds like they have a permitting question really about if they can. They're wanting to know if the city can make the sign	02:55:21
	more visible.	02:55:25
	Their sign, the no, it's it's a street sign. It's a city street sign, OK.	02:55:29
	Yeah, OK.	02:55:35
	OK, All right, so.	02:55:36
	I don't know that we need an agenda item for that.	02:55:40
	So is that just a?	02:55:43
	Yeah, I think that's something Public Works could just look into. Yeah, OK.	02:55:44
	OK. Is there anything else?	02:55:51
	So like to place on the agenda.	02:55:54
	The dredge woes of 2025 and just to have a strategic meeting as to how we're going to address the shortfall.	02:55:58
	Is there any motion that that's a motion?	02:56:12
	I'll second.	02:56:16
	Madam Clerk.	02:56:18
	All in favor.	02:56:20
	Aye, all opposed.	02:56:21
	Hearing none, motion passes unanimously.	02:56:23
	Anything else?	02:56:26
	Mayor Pro Tem.	02:56:31
	I'm struggling again.	02:56:38
	So I would like to.	02:56:39
	Add an agenda item.	02:56:44
	That, uh.	02:56:49
	List some of the items that are former Councilmember.	02:56:52
	Martinez.	02:56:58
	Had brought to the Council.	02:57:00
	Like events that we actually did in the city.	02:57:03
	And I would like to talk about whether.	02:57:06
	We want to keep.	02:57:09
	Some of them.	02:57:11
	Or.	02:57:12
	Because he's not here.	02:57:14
	We don't do them anymore.	02:57:15
	When I talk through that.	02:57:17
	Because we had the.	02:57:18
	In Laquet.	02:57:21
	Reading.	02:57:23
	You know, we were having basketball.	02:57:25
	Adult basketball.	02:57:27
	So there were some things that we were doing under former Councilmember Martinez.	02:57:28
	That were good. That may have been good for the city and I don't know if we want to.	02:57:34
	Just lose them.	02:57:38
	So parks and recs thing.	02:57:42
	I'll second.	02:57:43
	You want to discuss, just want to discuss some of the things that we did that.	02:57:46
	A list of the items of events that were.	02:57:51
	Brought by Councilmember Martinez and then.	02:57:56
	To allow the Council to discuss.	02:57:59
	Which to continue and whether we want to continue or?	02:58:01
	9.	02:58:04
	All in favor.	02:58:07
	Aye, all opposed.	02:58:08
	Hearing none, motion passes unanimously.	02:58:10
	OK, great. Anything else?	02:58:13
	OK, if there's nothing else, the next regular meeting is scheduled for Monday, March 3rd at 6:30 PM.	02:58:17
	The meeting is now.	02:58:25
	Adjourned at 9:27.	02:58:27

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	Good evening everyone. Welcome to the City Council regular meeting.	00:01:22
	I'm calling this meeting to order. The time is now 630.	00:01:26
	Please stand and join me for the flag salute.	00:01:31
	Ready again?	00:01:36
	I pledge allegiance to the flag.	00:01:38
	Of the United States of America.	00:01:40
	To the Republic for which it stands.	00:01:43
	One Nation.	00:01:46
	Indivisible with liberty and justice for all, Madam Clerk.	00:01:47
	Please take role.	00:01:57
	Councilmember Goma.	00:01:58
	Here, Councilmember Hernandez. Here Councilmember Perez.	00:02:00
	Here, Mayor Pro Tem Lopez here and Mayor McQueen Lejeune.	00:02:04
	Here Umm.	00:02:07
	We'll now move to the inspiration by Councilmember Hernandez. Thank you, Mayor. Good evening, everybody. For those of you who got	00:02:09
	here a little early and got to enjoy the music and the video entertainment.	00:02:15
	That was part of my inspiration.	00:02:22
	Hopefully it gave you an opportunity to kind of.	00:02:25
	Come in after your long day of.	00:02:28
	Wherever you were probably busy.	00:02:30
	In traffic.	00:02:32
	Gives you an opportunity to come here and just kind of decompress for a moment. Little social experiment.	00:02:34
	So.	00:02:40
	I'm going to talk just a little bit about music and how important it is for us as a society and and for myself personally.	00:02:42
	Music is a magical language that everyone can understand, no matter where they come from or what time they live.	00:02:51
	What time they leave?	00:02:58
	Or they live. It's been part of our lives for a long time and it's super important to us.	00:02:59
	It makes us feel all sorts of emotion, helps us remember where we come from, and brings us close to each other, whether it's a	00:03:06
	song that makes us feel happy.	00:03:10
	Or a tune that helps us relax.	00:03:15
	Music is like a special friend that always is there for us, making life brighter and more fun.	00:03:17
	It's like emotional language. It helps us express how we're feeling inside. It has this amazing power to affect our mood.	00:03:24
	Not only this, but music has a special way of triggering memories. When we hear a song from the past, it's like we're transported	00:03:31
	back in time.	00:03:35
	Music isn't just for fun either. It can also help us feel better when we're not doing so great.	00:03:41
	I've had to use music a lot this year.	00:03:46
	We can use music as a healing potion for our souls.	00:03:49
	Whether we're feeling sad or stressed out, music has this magical ability to soothe us and make us feel understood.	00:03:53
	It can even help us relax and sleep better at night, so next time you're feeling down.	00:04:00
	Just turn on some tunes and let the music work work its magic.	00:04:05
	Music Culture.	00:04:12
	Is super important because it shows who we are and where we come from. Every culture has its special music.	00:04:13
	That's been around for a long time, whether it's the lively beats.	00:04:19
	Of drums in Africa, the peaceful sounds of.	00:04:23
	Flutes from Native American tribes or the beautiful tunes of classical music in India. Each type of music tells a story about the	00:04:26
	people who make it.	00:04:30
	I wanted to umm. My selection of music tonight was in honor of Black Heritage Month.	00:04:37
	I but I really just thought I wanted to do something tonight that was going to.	00:04:44
	Take us a little way away from politics and.	00:04:49
	The chaos on the outside world, something that would bring us together. And I thought, music.	00:04:53
	Is something that we can all relate to.	00:04:58
	I think I've shared musical experiences with each one of the council members here we've.	00:05:02
	Danced we've I've listened to.	00:05:07
	Our mayor sing and acquire. I think all of us have a deep appreciation for music. It's something we all share.	00:05:10
	Together.	00:05:17
	So during these moments of enjoying music, we can forget about our differences. Enjoy.	00:05:20
	Music has as friends.	00:05:24
	And comrades.	00:05:28
	And music is where for me, we can find.	00:05:30
	Commonality and community.	00:05:33
	So that is my inspiration tonight. I don't know if I'll set a precedent here where we have music before the City Council meetings	00:05:35
	every month, but I'm going to give it a try. We'll see what happens after this.	00:05:41
	Thank you.	00:05:46
	Thank you, Councilmember. I don't, I don't know, but I think I would like it as well. I really enjoyed it, so thank you for that.	00:05:48
	So we're going to move on to public comments not pertaining to items on the agenda.	00:05:54
	Comments are limited to three minutes. This process will be the same for comments for items that are on the agenda.	00:06:00
	Madam Clerk.	00:06:06
	Does anyone have public comments tonight? Yes. First we have Becky Burning, followed by Jackie Cates.	00:06:07
	Good evening, Mayor, Mayor Pro Tem, council staff.	00:06:20
	And audience, I'm here representing Ro Guppy outdoors tonight.	00:06:24
	On Thursday night, we're having our third annual open house.	00:06:29
	4:30 to 6:00.	00:06:34
	We had appreciated if all of you would come join us.	00:06:36
	We're going to have hors d'oeuvres.	00:06:40
	And you can see exactly what it is we do with the kids.	00:06:42
	For Sunday of every month, we're out at the end of Winami Pier 8 to 11.	00:06:47
	Thanks, umm.	00:06:51
	Thank you.	00:06:54
	Jackie Cates.	00:06:55
	Good evening.	00:07:02
	I'm a resident Port Wayne Amy and I have like a specific question towards.	00:07:04
	Code enforcement.	00:07:09
	I'd like to know what the exact code is.	00:07:13
	For non operational vehicles on your property.	00:07:15
	And also registered non op.	00:07:19
	Vehicles on the street.	00:07:23
	Great city manager.	00:07:27
	So we aren't able to.	00:07:28
	Discuss items that aren't on the agenda. But what we can do is we have your contact information so we can have somebody reply to	00:07:30
	you with with information on that. OK, as I just I want to hear it from somebody up above.	00:07:35
	The code enforcement lady.	00:07:41
	Miss Jackson.	00:07:42
	OK, I feel that she picks and chooses her battles.	00:07:44
	And.	00:07:48
	You can tell that these people are totally.	00:07:49
	Dismantling vehicles.	00:07:53
	Every day, Every night.	00:07:55
	And I was outside when she told the gentleman one time to.	00:07:57
	Just close the clothes. Make sure those two clothes hoods are closed.	00:08:01
	And also make sure you cover up that truck back there.	00:08:05
	None of these vehicles run.	00:08:09
	I see them pushing them in and out of the yard on.	00:08:13
	St. Sweeper days.	00:08:16
	Then they leave the car, sit on the grass for two or three days.	00:08:17
	So thank you. OK. So we'll have somebody contact you with some information.	00:08:20
	That concludes public comment.	00:08:26
	Thank you. We're going to move on to agenda approval for the City Council. May I have a motion and a second to approve the agenda?	00:08:28
	Move to approve.	00:08:35
	2nd.	00:08:37
	All in favor.	00:08:39
	Aye, all opposed.	00:08:40
	Hearing none, motion passes unanimously.	00:08:42
	Right. Thank you.	00:08:45
	Now, do any members have of Council have any conflicts of interest to disclose for any of the agenda items?	00:08:46
	OK, we're going to move on to our presentations.	00:08:58
	For our first presentation, I'd like to call up Doctor IVA Jeffries.	00:09:02
	On behalf of the Martin Luther King Junior Committee.	00:09:07
	And while she is making her way up.	00:09:10
	I will read the proclamation.	00:09:12
	Black History Month, February 2025.	00:09:16
	Whereas much of the city of Port Hueneme honor strength and dedication.	00:09:20
	Can be attributed to.	00:09:24
	The diversity of culture and traditions that are celebrated by our residents and whereas African Americans have played a	00:09:26
	significant role in the history of our nation and California's economic.	00:09:32
	Culture.	00:09:38
	Spiritual and political development while working tirelessly to promote their culture and history.	00:09:39
	And whereas as a result of their determination, hard work and perseverance.	00:09:45
	African Americans have made valuable and lasting contributions to our community.	00:09:50
	And our state.	00:09:55
	Achieving exceptional success in All Access.	00:09:57
	Aspects of society, including business.	00:10:00
	Education.	00:10:03
	Politics. Science.	00:10:04
	And the arts.	00:10:06
	And whereas.	00:10:08
	In 1976, Black History Month was formally adopted to honor and affirm the importance of Black history throughout our American	00:10:09
	experience.	00:10:13
	And is full of individuals who took a stance against prejudice.	00:10:18
	Advance the cause of civil rights.	00:10:23
	Strengthened families, communities, and our nation.	00:10:26
	And whereas.	00:10:30
	All Americans are encouraged to reflect.	00:10:31
	On past successes and challenges of African Americans and look to the future to improve society so that we live up to the ideals	00:10:33
	of freedom.	00:10:38
	Equality and justice.	00:10:43
	Now therefore be it proclaimed that the City Council of the City of Port Hueneme does hereby proclaim the month of February, 2025.	00:10:45
	As Black History Month.	00:10:54
	And invites everyone to celebrate the diversity.	00:10:56
	And character.	00:10:59
	Of our community.	00:11:00
	And highlight the importance of sharing our culture.	00:11:02
	Customs and traditions with those around us.	00:11:05
	Proclaimed this 18th day of February.	00:11:08
	2025.	00:11:11
	Would you like to have a couple of words at all?	00:11:14
	Speak into the microphone.	00:11:19
	I have been a member of the Martin Luther King Junior Committee.	00:11:23
	Since it started.	00:11:27
	Over 37 years I believe.	00:11:29
	And it's a pleasure to be a part of the committee.	00:11:32
	And we want to thank all the community of Ventura County.	00:11:35
	For their participation, their attendance and their support.	00:11:41
	It's a pleasure to.	00:11:45
	Put on this.	00:11:47
	Program every year.	00:11:49
	We try to highly highlight young people in the community.	00:11:50
	And celebrate music, of course.	00:11:55
	It's always a big part of the program.	00:11:58
	So we look forward to doing this every year.	00:12:00
	And it's been a pleasure to be a part of the Community committee.	00:12:03
	Whole winter county.	00:12:08
	As we all know, Reverend Doctor Martin Luther King was.	00:12:11
	Great man in my opinion.	00:12:14
	At that did a lot for.	00:12:16
	US all in the United States.	00:12:19
	So we just take that day once a year to honor him.	00:12:21
	And we're just happy to do that.	00:12:25
	Thank you. Thank you. I'm gonna ask you for one more thing. There's a great event happening this Saturday.	00:12:27
	Will you tell us about it because it ties into the MLK?	00:12:33
	Event where we have the youth to do the speech, yes.	00:12:36
	Every year we.	00:12:41
	Have the winner of our last year's speech exposition.	00:12:43
	The Alpha Kappa Alpha sorority.	00:12:47
	Presents it in the last Saturday of Black History Month.	00:12:50
	And we have the speech exposition and the winner of that each year.	00:12:55
	Becomes the speaker for the MLK day following year.	00:13:01
	So you're all invited to that. It's a great event.	00:13:06
	We have.	00:13:10
	5th and 6th graders from.	00:13:12
	The elementary schools in the Oxnard district.	00:13:14
	And they present their speeches and we have one.	00:13:17
	1st place winner.	00:13:21
	And it's always.	00:13:23
	A wonderful event.	00:13:25
	And it's my sorority that puts it on and.	00:13:27
	Mayor Martha is a member of sorority, too.	00:13:31
	So we enjoy putting on that.	00:13:35
	Program.	00:13:38
	Hope you can all be a part of that that Saturday at 1:00.	00:13:39
	At Thurgood Marshall Elementary School.	00:13:43
	So be great to see you there.	00:13:46
	It's a wonderful event.	00:13:49
	Yes, thank you for reminding me.	00:13:51
	Stand on my tip toes.	00:14:08
	8123.	00:14:11
	I'm going to take a quick liberty.	00:14:28
	So just in case you didn't.	00:14:30
	Get it?	00:14:31
	On 3rd at Thurgood Marshall this Saturday, the top 20 children from the 20 elementary schools in the Oxnard School District will	00:14:32
	be presenting their speeches.	00:14:37
	And the winner of that speech?	00:14:42
	Will only be 1 winner.	00:14:44
	Will be presenting their speech at next year's MLK event, Ventura County event. So you don't want to miss it. I know	00:14:46
	Councilmember.	00:14:50
	Gama had an opportunity to go, so it's really good if you want to see the children's present.	00:14:54
	Thank you. Now back to business.	00:15:01
	OK.	00:15:05
	So the next presentation we have is we'll call up Matthew Vestu.	00:15:07
	Sudo and if you have others with you, you can bring them up as well.	00:15:12
	And then we're going to have Councilmember Perez.	00:15:17
	To read the proclamation.	00:15:21
	Thank you.	00:15:22
	And Mr. Vestudo is the chairman of the Venturino Barbarino Mission Indians, Ventura County. And who do we have with us?	00:15:23
	Your guest.	00:15:31
	Aku Santanat as a Lopez.	00:15:33
	Haku Haku.	00:15:36
	Some tenant melopo.	00:15:38
	Welcome, I'll read the proclamation.	00:15:40
	International Mothers Mother Language Day, February 21st, 2025.	00:15:42
	Whereas language is a complex form of communication consisting of sounds, words, grammar and nonverbal expressions.	00:15:47
	It is conveyed through spoken, written and visual means, reflecting the cultural richness and diversity of the human experience.	00:15:55
	And whereas language vary across the globe.	00:16:02
	By country, region and culture.	00:16:06
	And one's native language, often referred to as a mother language or mother tongue, is the foundation of cultural identity and	00:16:08
	heritage.	00:16:12
	And whereas certain languages and dialects.	00:16:16
	Are fading or disappearing.	00:16:20
	Resulting in the loss of unique customs, shared memories and cultural knowledge.	00:16:21
	Nearly half of the world's eight.	00:16:26
	1300 plus languages are endangered.	00:16:28
	With roughly one language vanishing every two weeks.	00:16:31
	And WHEREAS, February 21st has been recognized as International Mother Language Day to promote the preservation and protection of	00:16:35
	all languages, fostering linguistic and cultural diversity.	00:16:41
	The 25th anniversary of this observance marks 1/4 century of dedicated efforts to safeguard linguistic heritage.	00:16:47
	Emphasizing the critical role of language in protecting culture identity, advancing education, and cultivating more peaceful	00:16:54
	societies.	00:16:58
	And WHEREAS, the global observance of International Mother Language Day serves as a reminder of the value of linguistic diversity	00:17:02
	and the need to protect and promote language as essential tools for communication, cultural expression and unity.	00:17:10
	And whereas the city of Port Hueneme is home to a proud and diverse community, reflecting a wide range of languages from around	00:17:17
	the world that enrich our cities cultural fabric.	00:17:22
	Now therefore be it proclaim that the City Council of the City of Port Hueneme does hereby proclaim February 21st, 2025 as	00:17:27
	International Mother's Language Day.	00:17:32
	Would you like to say a few words?	00:17:39
	Waya waya.	00:17:46
	Some tenet master he Nah Mama some tenet sakuta show it Casila Matthew Vestudo.	00:17:48
	No ang chumash casila clue lapin.	00:17:55
	Kasuna swachhas limuka.	00:18:01
	That's why I had chic Bush, Edie.	00:18:04
	Aparnashmuppu.	00:18:07
	Greetings, my name is my Indian name is Sakuta show it and my English name is Matthew Vestudo and.	00:18:10
	I'm Chumash or Lulopian and grateful to be here. My family comes from Scorpions Anchorage, ON.	00:18:18
	Santa Cruz Island.	00:18:24
	And I'm very happy to be here in the.	00:18:26
	City of Wanimi, which is Apanash.	00:18:29
	When atma which is sleeping place.	00:18:33
	And it's a it's a wonderful place to be and.	00:18:36
	We're very grateful for your support for our native languages, and I'd also like to make a mention.	00:18:40
	Of other.	00:18:46
	Languages which probably have a lot more speakers than us, but are also minority languages here in our county and area.	00:18:47
	The languages of Micheko and Purepacha.	00:18:54
	And what?	00:18:57
	And just I was hoping some of their.	00:18:59
	Representatives could come with me to receive this because it isn't.	00:19:02
	Just too much it's.	00:19:06
	Mother languages around the world.	00:19:07
	I just wanted to thank you guys also.	00:19:12
	Thank you so much.	00:19:18
	Thank you.	00:19:20
	1/2.	00:19:37
	3.	00:19:39
	Thank you.	00:19:44
	Thank you.	00:19:50
	All right. We're going to move to our item number three. We are now going to turn it over to our police chief.	00:19:58
	Chief Federico.	00:20:04
	Good evening everyone. I'm here tonight to present to you your newest.	00:20:12
	Port waiting me police dispatcher.	00:20:16
	Nikki Scottie.	00:20:19
	Thank you. Do you want to come?	00:20:20
	Stand up here next to me, willing.	00:20:22
	So Nikki was born and raised in San Pedro, CA.	00:20:26
	And as the youngest of six children.	00:20:29
	She became a mother to her two sons, Christian, Andrew, very young.	00:20:31
	In her life.	00:20:35
	But she always knew they were the biggest blessings she would ever receive.	00:20:36
	She still calls them her son and Moon.	00:20:40
	As they are essential to her world.	00:20:43
	That you began a career in hospitality management as soon as she realized how much she loved customer service.	00:20:46
	In fact, creating extraordinary experiences and helping others see just like that just turn to say bless you because that she does	00:20:52
	creates extraordinary experience. It's all about.	00:20:57
	Customer service, in fact, creating extraordinary experiences and helping others and is a passion of hers.	00:21:02
	When COVID struck, she redirected her focus. Focus. She decided she wanted to focus her efforts on helping people in a different	00:21:08
	way.	00:21:12
	And wanted to work in public safety.	00:21:16
	It's a calling for many.	00:21:19
	Got that Calling.	00:21:21
	She moved to Rio Rancho, NM with her family and it was there where she applied to be an emergency dispatcher.	00:21:23
	She completed her Academy, receiving her Public Safety 901 dispatcher certification as well as Emergency Medical Dispatcher	00:21:33
	certification.	00:21:36
	And began dispatching for the city of Rio Rancho and Sandoval counties.	00:21:41
	Police, fire and EMS.	00:21:46
	Her heart for helping those around her was not going unnoticed, as she soon was assigned as the very first mentor to the new	00:21:48
	mentorship program.	00:21:53
	At that agency.	00:21:57
	With this role, she was now assisting and supporting new recruits as well as completing training.	00:22:00
	And serving as an active member of that agency's peer support team.	00:22:06
	With her boys now grown, Nikki returned to school to complete something she started so long ago. She attended college around her	00:22:12
	work hours and obtained her associate's degree in criminology.	00:22:17
	As well as an Associates of applied science.	00:22:23
	And integrated studies.	00:22:25
	A sociology degree and a general studies certification.	00:22:27
	Nikki told me.	00:22:32
	When she moved back to California in September of 2024.	00:22:34
	She knew she wanted to continue dispatching.	00:22:37
	What was determined to find an agency that.	00:22:40
	Would be a perfect fit for her.	00:22:44
	She was absolutely thrilled when the Portland Police Department extended a job offer to her.	00:22:47
	She was confident.	00:22:51
	This is where she wanted to stay.	00:22:53
	Nikki feels honored to work alongside such amazing, skilled and passionate professionals.	00:22:56
	Who share the same vision for their community that she does.	00:23:01
	She's excited to be a part of a team.	00:23:04
	And where's the name? City of Port Oneimi proudly.	00:23:06
	I have to tell you, just like police officers.	00:23:09
	Agencies are in demand for.	00:23:12
	For dispatchers and police officers, so.	00:23:14
	When people choose to come here and they get their choice of cities to work for.	00:23:19
	It it just it.	00:23:23
	It should make you all proud.	00:23:24
	To be part of.	00:23:26
	The bigger picture of the city so.	00:23:27
	And in the short time she's been here so far and in training and impressing.	00:23:30
	Her trainer, one of our.	00:23:34
	Most tenured and experienced trainers. Lynette, who's here today.	00:23:36
	Has been very impressed with her skills and abilities.	00:23:39
	But her personality too is winning over the crew, as you can tell just from her background so.	00:23:42
	Folks, let me introduce you to.	00:23:48
	Your new dispatcher.	00:23:50
	Nikki Scotty.	00:23:51
	Thank you so much.	00:23:56
	Great, anyone?	00:23:58
	Have any words where you fit? Were you done?	00:24:00
	Chief. OK, great.	00:24:03
	Councilmember Perez, thank you. Welcome, Nikki, to the City of Porto enemy. You know, my husband has been with the agency for 30	00:24:04
	years. Sergeant Perez.	00:24:08
	So I know a lot about what the.	00:24:12
	Dispatchers have to go through having sat and dispatched and seen what they do.	00:24:15
	You guys are amazing. You don't get enough credit for what you do. You don't get enough appreciation and mention in the things	00:24:20
	that you do. You are also first responders so and we appreciate everything that you do without you and your ability to do your job	00:24:25
	appropriately.	00:24:29
	Our officers can't get what they need in order to do their job, so we thank you for choosing Winimi and we we appreciate your	00:24:34
	service and we appreciate your family's service as well.	00:24:39
	Did us to everything you just said, but yeah, thank you for choosing the city of Port Hueneme. As you can tell, I don't know how	00:24:46
	long you've been in our city, but we are very.	00:24:50
	Unique.	00:24:54
	You have to really want to come here, to be here.	00:24:55
	And having you select our city and that's select you is.	00:24:58
	It's just a match made in heaven.	00:25:02
	And we really look forward to a long career here in the city of Port Hueneme, So thank you.	00:25:04
	Welcome, Nikki. Glad you're here.	00:25:12
	I've worked with law enforcement for over 30 years and I know how difficult it is to feel that position of dispatcher your.	00:25:15
	Highly desired. It's it's a tough job and I just want you to know that.	00:25:23
	I appreciate you and the rest of the dispatch team and I wish you well and I know that you.	00:25:29
	Based on what we've heard, you're going to do a great job. Congratulations and welcome to Fort Winnie Me.	00:25:34
	Sounds like you hit the ground running there, Nikki, so that is awesome.	00:25:43
	And you get to break in our new dispatch office when that thing opens, so.	00:25:48
	That's exciting.	00:25:53
	But thank you. Thank you for choosing Port Wineemi and we look.	00:25:56
	You know, forward to your many years of service here and.	00:26:01
	Giving service to our community. Thank you.	00:26:03
	Picking us?	00:26:06
	Great. And what everyone else said also would like to say, you know, it's really good to hear our Chief when he reads up on the	00:26:08
	folks, new folks that we have here.	00:26:13
	He uses words like.	00:26:18
	They're happy to be here.	00:26:20
	It's a perfect match.	00:26:21
	You know what we have to offer is in alignment with what?	00:26:23
	The the new person needs and so.	00:26:26
	We at least we know there's commonality in that.	00:26:29
	And that's a great start. So we're so glad that you're here and looking forward to all the good work you're going to do for us.	00:26:32
	Thank you so much.	00:26:37
	Good. Yeah, I gotta go up my tip toes.	00:26:53
	123.	00:26:56
	123.	00:27:04
	1/2.	00:27:08
	All right, so we're going to move on to our presentation #4.	00:27:27
	We're going to go to our city manager.	00:27:31
	Thank you. Yes, and.	00:27:34
	I'm going to introduce Fred Camarillo, our Public Works Director, who will be taking us through an update related to traffic and	00:27:37
	pedestrian safety improvements.	00:27:41
	Last year we had done several.	00:27:48
	We'd had several discussions about some measures we were implementing about traffic and pedestrian safety and we had said.	00:27:51
	We come back and do some periodic status updates on.	00:27:57
	How those were working and so we wanted to do one of those today.	00:28:02
	Talking about some of the recent improvements, but also some of the things that we have in progress. So with that, I'll turn it	00:28:07
	over to Fred Camarillo, our Public Works Director.	00:28:11
	Good evening, Mayor.	00:28:17
	Mayor Pro Tem, members of the council and of the audience.	00:28:18
	Several of these things that are on this presentation are things that you've previously heard about before, but we.	00:28:24
	Also mentioned that we would be bringing these back to you.	00:28:30
	To recap.	00:28:33
	What we've seen, what we've learned.	00:28:35
	And.	00:28:37
	Bring you up to speed on what's happening.	00:28:39
	This is just the.	00:28:44
	Cover slide here that talks about some of the things that you're going to see.	00:28:48
	And the rest of the presentation.	00:28:51
	Umm, with that, all that.	00:28:55
	Just go on to that. So this first item.	00:28:56
	Is pedestrian safety.	00:28:59
	Back in September of last year.	00:29:02
	We did some measures out on Surfside Drive.	00:29:05
	With the rectangular rapid flashing beacons.	00:29:08
	Which is that top picture there? It's the sign with.	00:29:11
	If you've driven by them, you see it where it's.	00:29:16
	A flashing.	00:29:18
	Quickly flashing light to alert.	00:29:20
	Motorists that there's someone that's going to be crossing the street.	00:29:23
	So we installed that.	00:29:28
	Out right out by Surfside One.	00:29:30
	And further down, over by the curve on Surfside, down by surfside, three there.	00:29:33
	That lower picture is.	00:29:39
	A different.	00:29:41
	Sign that identifies for traffic coming by that there is a crosswalk there.	00:29:43
	And to be mindful that there are pedestrians that could be crossing.	00:29:48
	Umm, some other things that we did.	00:29:53
	Which umm.	00:29:55
	Mr. Gamma.	00:29:56
	Was the.	00:29:58
	Lead on was to reflect yourself campaign so.	00:30:00
	That's something else that not directly done with our public Works staff or.	00:30:05
	Or PD.	00:30:10
	But it was another thing that was implemented.	00:30:12
	With the items that we have up there, we.	00:30:15
	Had a very good response.	00:30:18
	There were.	00:30:21
	Several people that live down on the beach area that were.	00:30:22
	Concerned about speed?	00:30:25
	On Surfside Drive and we.	00:30:28
	Have seen less and less complaints as time has gone by so.	00:30:31
	Umm, we're thinking that that's something that is.	00:30:36
	Being well received.	00:30:39
	Here is the Panoma street signs and May of last year the council approved an 18 month pilot program.	00:30:44
	We had some complaints, several complaints on Panoma where?	00:30:52
	Speed was an issue.	00:30:57
	That area also had a couple of different items. Parking was.	00:31:00
	An issue as well.	00:31:04
	Some of that also is with because we had red curb in some locations.	00:31:06
	Umm, so there was.	00:31:12
	Speed. Line of sight issues.	00:31:15
	So council authorized for us to go ahead and put stop signs there on the locations listed.	00:31:18
	That also has been working out very well.	00:31:25
	We haven't received any complaints out of the area with the stop signs Which?	00:31:28
	Now stops traffic.	00:31:33
	But uh.	00:31:35
	We also haven't.	00:31:36
	Had any accidents?	00:31:37
	Out there.	00:31:39
	It's something that hasn't caused confusion.	00:31:41
	For our residents by putting those in place.	00:31:44
	And then this project will go ahead and.	00:31:49
	Be done well, the pilot portion of it will be done in November of this year.	00:31:52
	And at that time, that's something that we can evaluate between now and then.	00:31:56
	To see if there's anything that does come up that.	00:32:01
	Would warrant that maybe we look at something different or?	00:32:04
	We go ahead and council can determine that they'd like to leave those in place permanently.	00:32:09
	The speed cushion program.	00:32:18
	We've had that policy.	00:32:20
	Had adopted by the Council in 2023.	00:32:23
	We have the policy.	00:32:27
	And the requirements for it listed on the city web page and our public works page.	00:32:29
	Since this was adopted, we've had eight requests.	00:32:35
	You can see down below there that there's six locations that.	00:32:39
	Have received them so far.	00:32:44
	Some of those come with.	00:32:47
	Other things that need to be done on the left hand side. There you'll see.	00:32:51
	That's data that our Police Department, they have.	00:32:54
	Access to they put out.	00:32:57
	A speed survey which counts and monitors traffic and the speed.	00:32:59
	Which they're traveling in certain locations.	00:33:03
	That one happened to be for.	00:33:06
	Someone that had requested out in the Pacific Cove.	00:33:08
	Area and.	00:33:12
	You'll see on there how many vehicles passed by in that seven day total, what the average speed was what?	00:33:14
	The highest speed was.	00:33:21
	And what?	00:33:23
	Citation levels would have been.	00:33:24
	And I believe it was.	00:33:27
	Want less than one?	00:33:28
	.04% of all.	00:33:31
	Trips that went across that.	00:33:34
	Location would have.	00:33:35
	Been cited.	00:33:37
	But we do still go ahead and accept them. As a matter of fact, this this morning we had one additional one on Joyce.	00:33:40
	Between essentially the end of Joyce Drive all the way to J Street so.	00:33:48
	We'll take a look at that.	00:33:52
	And fit that against the requirements for the policy and if it's warranted and.	00:33:53
	There's other.	00:33:59
	Things that.	00:34:01
	Requester needs to do.	00:34:03
	Which, you know, filling out a survey and getting.	00:34:05
	The neighboring residents to also.	00:34:08
	Want to go ahead and move forward with that. So we're with that again that just came out this morning, so.	00:34:13
	We'll be taking a look at that as well.	00:34:18
	Speed Study.	00:34:23
	As you'll recall, in October of 23 we went through.	00:34:24
	A whole you authorize a study. We looked at all of that.	00:34:28
	Our traffic engineer.	00:34:32
	Made recommendations for speed limit changes.	00:34:34
	There were 12.	00:34:37
	That were.	00:34:39
	Listed that were recommended to be changed, all lowering speed limits for.	00:34:40
	Pedestrian safety.	00:34:45
	And you see them listed there on the left hand side with some of the bigger ones, the bigger streets, Patterson, Victoria and	00:34:47
	Channel Islands there on the right.	00:34:51
	That Channel Islands westbound.	00:34:55
	Typo. It should be reversed. We didn't raise any speed limits when we did any of this, so.	00:34:57
	And since then, since we've done all this, we did give a three month.	00:35:04
	Grace period.	00:35:08
	We put out.	00:35:10
	Messages.	00:35:12
	Saying the message boards on our city websites.	00:35:13
	Letting everybody know there's new speed limits in these areas. Be aware.	00:35:17
	We're giving you time to adjust, but know that.	00:35:21
	After the state, you will be cited if you're.	00:35:24
	You're caught speeding so.	00:35:28
	It seems to be doing well. We have again we were receiving.	00:35:30
	Quite a few complaints about.	00:35:35
	High speed.	00:35:37
	Across the city and since.	00:35:38
	We've done.	00:35:41
	Things like all the others and this.	00:35:42
	It seems to have drastically reduced the.	00:35:45
	Complaints that we we.	00:35:48
	We are receiving.	00:35:49
	Surfside Drive, The rubberized median down there. Umm.	00:35:53
	We again.	00:35:58
	This was a pilot program that was approved in July of 24.	00:36:00
	We've got them installed in August.	00:36:04
	The complaint there, as you can see in that top photo, was.	00:36:07
	Cars going around and doing their Donuts.	00:36:11
	In that intersection.	00:36:15
	Creating a lot of havoc.	00:36:17
	So we got those placed down. They seem to have worked very well, the complaints in that.	00:36:19
	Particular area.	00:36:25
	Which extends about.	00:36:26
	300 feet to.	00:36:29
	The East.	00:36:30
	South, if you want to say that.	00:36:32
	Has stopped.	00:36:36
	That problem in that area, but we have noticed that.	00:36:39
	Where that ends?	00:36:42
	We've noticed some other areas that have.	00:36:45
	Have picked up where people are deciding to try and perform those things, even including our beach parking lot so.	00:36:47
	Again, this is a pilot project. It's something that we're looking at it obviously.	00:36:54
	Worked here because of the number of complaints and even though we've noticed at other places we haven't received the same.	00:36:58
	Amount of complaints that we were receiving down there.	00:37:04
	And our city manager actually was interviewed by, I think it was ABC, right?	00:37:07
	After that interview.	00:37:15
	We got.	00:37:17
	Several requests through the city manager's office from other agencies wanting to know what we use, where did we get it, how much	00:37:18
	does it cost.	00:37:22
	And.	00:37:26
	We believe several of the other agencies that contacted us have ended up trying something like this as well, so.	00:37:27
	It's worked out well.	00:37:34
	Designated truck routes enforcement.	00:37:38
	We were working with PD.	00:37:41
	On that, they're they're trying to make sure that we didn't have trucks going off.	00:37:44
	Truck designated truck routes, which are the red lines in that map.	00:37:49
	One of the things that was causing a complication was the city of Oxnard's truck route.	00:37:54
	Map showed that.	00:38:00
	Pleasant Valley from J Street through Ventura Rd. was a designated truck route, so it made it.	00:38:01
	Difficult.	00:38:08
	It's not impossible for our PD to cite.	00:38:09
	On that section of Pleasant Valley Rd. Because if.	00:38:12
	Do that then.	00:38:15
	They could be challenged so.	00:38:16
	We've reached out to the city of Oxnard and they went through their process and cooperated with us and.	00:38:18
	Updated their maps.	00:38:25
	Which?	00:38:27
	Allowed it RPD to now go ahead and enforce in that section of the road.	00:38:29
	Very, very important in this area because.	00:38:37
	On Pleasant Valley there we have Bart Elementary School, so you have large trucks going over there by the elementary school.	00:38:41
	And not being a designated truck route, the road isn't designed to handle that kind of traffic load. So where's the roads down?	00:38:47
	Sooner than they should be so.	00:38:55
	That seems to be working out very well too. I know I spoke to Sergeant Bates about it. He was all excited once this map got	00:38:58
	updated because.	00:39:03
	That gave him the ability to start.	00:39:07
	Doing what he.	00:39:10
	He and his group.	00:39:12
	We're seeing happening over there insight on that section.	00:39:13
	San Pedro, as you all know, we had problems with.	00:39:18
	Again, line of sight, speed and lack of parking.	00:39:24
	A lot of this stuff also came about even more.	00:39:30
	Beginning from January of.	00:39:34
	Last year, when the daylighting law became.	00:39:36
	A law that was meant to be for this first year, the first year of 2024, is more of a.	00:39:39
	Public education.	00:39:47
	Rather than enforcement, which enforcement was.	00:39:49
	Starting in January 1st of this year.	00:39:52
	But we.	00:39:55
	Worked with the Navy base.	00:39:56
	And.	00:39:59
	Got their buy in. Council approved removing the parking restriction on that on that side there of San Pedro that that borders the	00:40:00
	Navy fence line.	00:40:05
	We also.	00:40:12
	One of the requests from the Navy was that we.	00:40:13
	Pass an ordinance that.	00:40:18
	Limited oversized vehicles so they would not park there.	00:40:20
	So it would be less of a security risk.	00:40:24
	And we did that. Well, you did that.	00:40:26
	And we've.	00:40:30
	Received.	00:40:32
	Very few complaints about anything, everybody.	00:40:33
	Seems to be liking the ability to park.	00:40:36
	Over there creates a lot more.	00:40:39
	Space for them.	00:40:42
	So that seems to be going really well.	00:40:44
	One of the things that did.	00:40:47
	Happen with that though, as we allowed parking there, people were saying that people were kind of.	00:40:49
	Using that as a dumping spot for litter.	00:40:54
	So we did.	00:40:57
	End up putting some no littering signs over there.	00:40:58
	And monitoring that.	00:41:00
	It seems to be.	00:41:03
	Not as big of an issue.	00:41:05
	The dedicated left turn signal on westbound Winnemi at Ventura.	00:41:10
	That had come up a few years ago.	00:41:16
	And at that time it was looked at.	00:41:19
	And it was determined.	00:41:22
	And that analysis that a dedicated left turn signal?	00:41:24
	Was not warranted at that time, but there were some other.	00:41:29
	Things that were mentioned as follow-ups that could be done.	00:41:33
	If budget permitted it and we.	00:41:37
	We went ahead and followed up with that which was a.	00:41:41
	Traffic count essentially turning movement analysis.	00:41:45
	The engineer conduct our traffic engineer conducted that study.	00:41:49
	And it.	00:41:54
	Indicated that.	00:41:56
	Based on the information that it wasn't recommended.	00:41:58
	Or required based on.	00:42:02
	The traffic counts at that.	00:42:04
	Point.	00:42:06
	However, I mean it's also something that can be looked at.	00:42:08
	We asked him for a very preliminary number of if we wanted to do that.	00:42:13
	What would that take?	00:42:18
	And he gave us an estimate of changing because it's not as simple as just adding an end piece.	00:42:19
	The pole, it's a replacement of an entire pole and sequencing things and doing all that so.	00:42:25
	He gave us an estimated cost of about $300,000 to.	00:42:32
	Change that.	00:42:36
	We as a staff.	00:42:40
	At this point wouldn't recommend it because it's not warranted under two different things, but of course.	00:42:42
	Will be visiting the budget soon and that is something that the Council can.	00:42:46
	Go ahead and decide that something that they would still like to further pursue.	00:42:52
	And at that point, we can, we can plan.	00:42:56
	I'll stop there for a minute and ask you if you have any questions on any of this stuff.	00:43:06
	So far.	00:43:10
	I do on the 2nd update regarding Panoma.	00:43:12
	Where you had you added the stop signs and removed the red curbs. I imagine because of the new law taking effect you had to put	00:43:16
	the red curve back.	00:43:19
	No, no.	00:43:23
	It doesn't apply. Well, you don't.	00:43:24
	Red curb isn't required for that, so no parking is. No parking is still in effect.	00:43:27
	OK. At the time we did that though to one of the things that we're looking at because we have the bus stop.	00:43:33
	That goes down Panoma.	00:43:38
	And we had reached out to Gold Coast to see whether or not that was an option that.	00:43:40
	To reroute or do something different.	00:43:47
	At that time they said no, they didn't want to do it.	00:43:50
	We've since learned more recently.	00:43:53
	That they want to now go ahead and remove that. And if so, then we could remove all the red curb that is out there that's	00:43:55
	dedicated for.	00:44:00
	The bus route, so that would open up even more parking in that area, so.	00:44:05
	And one additional question which I just heard I learned about, I did not know.	00:44:10
	Truck routes. The road is paved differently.	00:44:15
	Than regular roads they're designed for.	00:44:18
	Carrying the heavier truckloads. I mean, it makes sense, I just never thought about it, but I guess it totally makes sense.	00:44:22
	Thank you. I don't have any further questions.	00:44:28
	O the red line.	00:44:31
	Stops on Ventura Road and Channel Islands.	00:44:33
	Goes to Victoria for the truck route, correct?	00:44:36
	Let me go back to that.	00:44:42
	Yeah, that was it.	00:44:46
	Nope.	00:44:48
	One more.	00:44:51
	Wrong way.	00:44:58
	That one.	00:45:03
	So what I noticed is we have a lot of trucks that I think they think it's a.	00:45:05
	Saves them time, but the banana trucks coming off the port, they head down Ventura Rd.	00:45:11
	To deliver their container.	00:45:17
	To the Second Street Bridge area. So does this.	00:45:21
	Does that mean that they shouldn't be going down into a road past shadow islands?	00:45:25
	That, well, that's where it picks up into the Oxnards truck route. This is our city truck route here, so Oxnard's.	00:45:31
	Route continues from that point.	00:45:40
	I think they go down Winemi Rd.	00:45:43
	No, not all of them.	00:45:45
	Where that the red ends at Venturian Islands. That only ends because that's where our city artisans. Yes, but the but Oxnard, the	00:45:47
	rest of Ventura Rd. is an Oxnard truck route.	00:45:52
	So then my question is, is so is it this?	00:45:58
	Suggested route for the ban.	00:46:01
	To go down Wineemi Road to the rice connection into.	00:46:04
	That would be there's.	00:46:10
	Those options, somebody could go down when Amy Rd. or they can go down Ventura Rd. So it's not a requirement to go down Wynnie Rd.	00:46:13
	Not a requirement.	00:46:21
	Yeah, they're not. It's not that they're specifically told that here's the only way you can get to your destination.	00:46:22
	But they're on a truck route.	00:46:27
	Here's your options.	00:46:30
	Yeah. And then?	00:46:31
	Yeah, because I thought the rice connection was built to aid the port traffic. That's what I thought.	00:46:34
	I heard. But anyways moving on.	00:46:40
	So an area that I notice and.	00:46:43
	Know maybe I shouldn't bring it up, but I'm going to.	00:46:45
	The right hand turn.	00:46:49
	On Ventura Road to Surfside Drive.	00:46:52
	It's a non-stop.	00:46:55
	And I do see.	00:46:57
	Close calls there every now and then where people are not using the crosswalk and crossing the street and then a car is making a	00:46:59
	right turn as the traffic study ever looked at that?	00:47:04
	Not that I'm aware of.	00:47:11
	Do you know people look at that? No. Yeah, I was just.	00:47:13
	Maybe as the beach gets really busy I I I could.	00:47:17
	I see people that.	00:47:21
	Don't go to the crosswalk and then they cross the street and then a car comes and doesn't have to stop. And it's been.	00:47:23
	Something that I've noticed from time to time, but.	00:47:30
	And it's something that we can certainly take a look at.	00:47:33
	And I do appreciate.	00:47:36
	All the effort that has been taken to try to.	00:47:38
	Communicate to pedestrians and the pedestrians are listening out there.	00:47:42
	Reflect yourself.	00:47:46
	Or some colorful clothes. Why does everybody wear dark clothes I don't get.	00:47:48
	Anyone else?	00:47:53
	Back over to you.	00:47:56
	All right, so you gotta go the right direction this time.	00:47:58
	So some things we have coming up.	00:48:05
	We applied for a SCAG grant for some more RRFBS out on Hemlock St. you can see identified there.	00:48:08
	And we were told in December that we were awarded.	00:48:17
	$70,000 for that project.	00:48:21
	So we'll be able to work in conjunction with the city of Oxnard, who wrote us a support letter, as well as the Oxnard School	00:48:23
	District wrote us a support letter for that project.	00:48:27
	Important for.	00:48:34
	Us, because we have.	00:48:35
	That section just South of Hemlock, those children that live in that area go across the street to school.	00:48:38
	So that will be not only a benefit to.	00:48:46
	The general residence in there, but also for the children that are walking across the street, attending school over there, so.	00:48:50
	Umm, we.	00:48:57
	We're waiting to hear you'll have an item coming back to you too. We need to.	00:49:00
	Have the Council approve a resolution.	00:49:04
	For acceptance of that, but we're waiting on them to get us the draft language for that. And so we'll be bringing that to you	00:49:07
	probably next month or maybe.	00:49:12
	April.	00:49:17
	We'll have that coming to you.	00:49:19
	And citywide parking study again.	00:49:22
	With a.	00:49:26
	The day lighting law.	00:49:27
	The Adu.	00:49:28
	Laws.	00:49:32
	Again, parking is becoming a premium.	00:49:34
	That we hear.	00:49:38
	From many areas throughout the city on.	00:49:40
	Getting more and more difficult to find parking.	00:49:43
	So November of last year, council authorized us to conduct a parking study, which is.	00:49:46
	Underway right now.	00:49:53
	Our traffic engineer is in the data collection.	00:49:54
	Portion of that you can see the schedule there.	00:49:58
	On the bottom.	00:50:01
	So as they.	00:50:04
	Move forward with their collections and then start putting together an analysis of.	00:50:06
	Options that we'll have.	00:50:10
	To try and alleviate some of those parking concerns.	00:50:12
	That will all get wrapped up into a draft report and then?	00:50:16
	Final report that will come back to you ultimately with.	00:50:20
	Some alternatives that.	00:50:24
	You will be able to consider.	00:50:27
	And.	00:50:28
	At that point.	00:50:30
	Be able to.	00:50:31
	Move forward with.	00:50:33
	Your decision and the.	00:50:36
	With the help and guidance of whatever is put into that.	00:50:38
	And that's it, unless you have any questions on these last two items.	00:50:44
	Councilman Hernandez.	00:50:47
	I may have zoned out when you said this, but what's the difference between primary and additional?	00:50:49
	How do you define those two?	00:50:54
	Terms. What do you mean by primary?	00:50:56
	I.	00:51:01
	The Our traffic engineer was supposed to be here tonight to answer some of these technical questions, but.	00:51:07
	Do you recall how he described that, Charles?	00:51:15
	It only includes the the primary areas, the green areas.	00:51:23
	Because that's where we've seen the most complaints. And then the yellow areas are like single family residences and that's not	00:51:26
	going to be evaluated with this parking study.	00:51:29
	They gave us the option to do that.	00:51:33
	If we want to do that later.	00:51:36
	So, umm.	00:51:37
	Very good. Thank you. Those primarily due to cost we.	00:51:38
	We had freed up, I think it was something in the area of $20,000 to be able to do the parking study. So we're.	00:51:42
	We could either.	00:51:48
	Try to look citywide and find sort of more, maybe generic A.	00:51:50
	Ideas, but we decided to identify those key areas with our.	00:51:55
	Traffic Engineer.	00:52:01
	That we get consistent complaints about parking on and we focused on those.	00:52:02
	With the idea that.	00:52:07
	Specific recommendations will come forward, but then some of those we do think will be applicable citywide, so.	00:52:08
	So we kind of worked with our engineer to.	00:52:14
	Identify those.	00:52:17
	So H.	00:52:23
	I and J so some of the findings that.	00:52:26
	That are going on in the primary locations.	00:52:29
	Are we going to have language that's.	00:52:32
	Going to affect hi and J.	00:52:34
	Potentially the parking study will look at.	00:52:38
	Probably revising the municipal code or putting together regulations.	00:52:40
	That, as James said, we could apply IJ and H.	00:52:44
	There is there is issues in those areas too. Yeah. I think some of the examples where we said some of the things that will come	00:52:48
	out of the primary areas would be applicable to other areas.	00:52:53
	Would be some of the things like.	00:52:58
	Looking at the lot coverage standards and those types of things where?	00:53:00
	If that recommendation comes forward, that would be applicable citywide, so.	00:53:08
	So we we still.	00:53:12
	The reason those are highlighted and.	00:53:14
	And you know, some areas aren't highlighted.	00:53:16
	At all, but those areas are still highlighted as we still wanted to.	00:53:19
	Keep those in mind, but we were focusing on the areas that we get 99% of the complaints with the first priority and that with that	00:53:23
	limited funding at this point, so.	00:53:27
	Thank you. So I think I heard you say that consideration for.	00:53:36
	Possibly changing the hardscape requirement for the front yard.	00:53:42
	That's one of the options the engineer is looking at, but.	00:53:47
	I would.	00:53:51
	Not recommend us getting too deep into any of the specific recommendations because we don't know.	00:53:52
	What? Uh.	00:53:58
	Recommendations going to be developed at this point, but that's one of the examples that we've asked them to look at.	00:53:59
	OK, that that's important. We've asked him to look at it so then we will get something, OK.	00:54:04
	Any other questions?	00:54:11
	I just, I just want to remind everyone there's going to be a workshop.	00:54:14
	In April or May that the engineer is going to hold so.	00:54:16
	All right. Is that the end of your report?	00:54:21
	OK, great.	00:54:23
	All right. Thank you.	00:54:25
	Thank you, Mr. Camarillo and Mr. Gay. Thank you.	00:54:26
	OK, so now we're going to move on to the consent calendar. It seems like we should have already done that right now.	00:54:30
	Yeah, we're going to move on to the consent calendar. So we will now consider the items on the consent calendar, which will be	00:54:37
	enacted in one motion.	00:54:40
	Unless a council member has a request to remove.	00:54:43
	And item for discussion.	00:54:46
	Give you a minute.	00:54:49
	Move to approve second.	00:54:52
	Thank you.	00:54:54
	Madam Clerk, can we get a vote?	00:54:55
	All in favor, aye?	00:54:56
	All opposed.	00:54:58
	Hearing none, motion passes unanimously.	00:54:59
	Great. Thank you.	00:55:03
	All right, we're going to move on to our public hearings.	00:55:05
	Madam Clerk, do you have proof of publication as required by law?	00:55:09
	And a complete file to report.	00:55:12
	Of the reports and exhibits, Yes, Madam Mayor.	00:55:15
	Will staff please present the report?	00:55:19
	Yes, and I'll hand it over here in a moment. I just wanted to introduce.	00:55:22
	With give.	00:55:27
	Sort of the overarching introduction for both public hearings on the agenda today.	00:55:29
	Are related to.	00:55:34
	US preparing to reopen Bubbling Springs Park.	00:55:38
	And so we.	00:55:41
	Expect to be opening up in the next two months and so with with the date to be announced shortly.	00:55:43
	But as part of that.	00:55:50
	There's lots to celebrate, but.	00:55:53
	There's also some work to still do in the meantime.	00:55:55
	And for example.	00:55:57
	As of right now we're building a dog park, but we don't we legally aren't allowed to let people off.	00:55:59
	Have their dogs off leash.	00:56:05
	To have let people have their dogs off leash.	00:56:08
	So we're looking at things like that to get all of those things set up and ready to go so that when the Bubbling Springs Park	00:56:10
	opens.	00:56:15
	People can enjoy all the amenities.	00:56:19
	And so with that.	00:56:21
	To talk about the dog.	00:56:23
	Park leash and the leash rules and the.	00:56:25
	Bubbling Springs Park facility rental.	00:56:29
	Fees. I'll introduce our Deputy City Manager, Charles Parrots, who will be walking us through those.	00:56:32
	Thank you. Good evening, Council.	00:56:41
	Public fellow staff.	00:56:43
	Thank you City manager, I think you effectively stole my Thunder. It was a good synopsis of item.	00:56:45
	Item 9 on our agenda.	00:56:51
	It's a public hearing to allow the council to consider.	00:56:53
	A code amendment to allow for off leash activity within the designated off leash area of Bubbling Springs.	00:56:55
	Park.	00:57:01
	So.	00:57:04
	As referenced, the Bubbling Springs Park renovation project is going to result.	00:57:05
	In a wonderful.	00:57:09
	Reimagined.	00:57:11
	Park. It's going to have lots of new and improved park amenities.	00:57:13
	One of the amenities which was a particular interest to the community during the planning and design phase.	00:57:16
	Is the dog park.	00:57:21
	Also known as the off leash area.	00:57:23
	The dog park will provide.	00:57:26
	Two separate fenced areas, one for large dogs, one for small dogs.	00:57:28
	And will allow those animals to run off leash within that designated area.	00:57:32
	Currently, the city's municipal code, specifically its leash law, does not allow for dogs to be off leash in city parks.	00:57:37
	Therefore, in order to allow this facility to operate as it's intended, we need to.	00:57:45
	Consider an amendment to the code to allow for dogs to be off leash within this area.	00:57:50
	So the ordinance that's presented this evening seeks to amend 2 sections of the municipal code.	00:57:58
	The first is Article 3 of Chapter 1, Section 3007.	00:58:03
	Which is the city's least leash law?	00:58:08
	The proposal is to amend that.	00:58:11
	Section to allow for off leash activity at Bubbling Springs Park in the designated area.	00:58:13
	And to amend Article 4 of Chapter 1, Section 4008.	00:58:19
	Which would be amended to designate the specific area.	00:58:24
	Codify certain regulations.	00:58:28
	And allow for the city manager to further develop administrative rules and regulations governing the use of the area.	00:58:30
	In conclusion, just to be clear, that changes that we're speaking about, that we're proposing the Council consider.	00:58:39
	Would be applicable.	00:58:45
	Only to the designated.	00:58:46
	Area within Bubbling Springs Park it would not.	00:58:48
	Amend the code in any other way. There would be no allowance for off leash activity.	00:58:51
	Anywhere else?	00:58:55
	So with that brief overview.	00:58:58
	We have the list of recommendations for the public hearing.	00:59:01
	I'm happy to answer questions, provide additional information.	00:59:04
	That the Council may request.	00:59:09
	Any questions?	00:59:15
	Just questions, we'll come back.	00:59:15
	Silly question, but.	00:59:18
	Is there a definition small dog versus big dog?	00:59:20
	It's not a silly question, it's an excellent question.	00:59:24
	You know, when we get into certain details like that, you know the the proposed language.	00:59:28
	To be codified speaks to.	00:59:33
	Rules that are unwavering and unchanging, but specifics like that. Specifics about ages of dogs that would be allowed. Dogs in	00:59:35
	heat, aggressive dogs.	00:59:40
	The number of dogs that one person may carry. The size of a dog that would be defined as small versus large.	00:59:45
	Those are things that we envision would be part of the administrative rules that will be developed and posted at the site.	00:59:51
	So while I don't have a definitive answer for you now, that would be something that would be defined and displayed at the park so	00:59:56
	it's clear the definition is understood by all users.	01:00:01
	Yeah, I just wonder what a corgi is.	01:00:06
	Which is kind of like a big little dog.	01:00:09
	Yeah. The the information I've seen elsewhere is sometimes the 20 LB mark is used as the demarcation. So we'll take a look at	01:00:11
	that.	01:00:15
	My instinct and my familiarity with dogs tells me Corky may be a small, small dog area.	01:00:20
	I think it usually goes by weight if you look at.	01:00:27
	What other cities are doing for their off leash?	01:00:29
	Park areas.	01:00:32
	Between the big dogs and the little dogs.	01:00:34
	It's usually designated by weight.	01:00:36
	And 20 to 25 lbs is somewhere around the cutoff.	01:00:38
	Any other questions?	01:00:43
	All right, no other questions. We will open the public hearing.	01:00:45
	Is now 729.	01:00:50
	Madam Clerk, are there any public comments regarding this item? No public comments.	01:00:53
	We will now close the hearing.	01:00:59
	So the input has been concluded.	01:01:01
	The time is now 729.	01:01:03
	So we have before us a recommendation to introduce the 1st.	01:01:06
	For first reading.	01:01:10
	By title only, waiving further reading of the ordinance entitled.	01:01:11
	An ordinance of the City Council of the City of Port Hueneme, CA amending.	01:01:15
	Section 303007 of Chapter 1 of Article 3.	01:01:21
	Three and section 4008 of chapter one of our.	01:01:25
	Four of the port winding municipal code.	01:01:30
	To allow dogs to be off leash within the designated area of Bubbling Springs Park.	01:01:33
	And to find.	01:01:38
	Project.	01:01:40
	To be categorically exempt from sequa.	01:01:41
	And takes us such additional related actions that may be.	01:01:44
	Desired may I have a motion and a second?	01:01:48
	So moved second.	01:01:51
	Is there any discussion?	01:01:54
	Notice that all right.	01:01:57
	Madam Clerk, can you take?	01:02:00
	Councilmember Gama.	01:02:02
	Yes, Councilmember Hernandez. Yes, Councilmember Perez. Yes, Mayor Pro Tem Lopez.	01:02:04
	Yes, Mayor McQueen Lashawn.	01:02:09
	Yes, motion passes unanimously.	01:02:11
	Thank you.	01:02:14
	We will now move on to public hearing #10.	01:02:15
	Consider the adoption of a resolution amending recreation fees in the master fee schedule.	01:02:19
	Madam Clerk, do you have proof of publication as required by law?	01:02:25
	And a complete file of reports and exhibits. Yes, Madam.	01:02:29
	Thank you. Will staff please present the report.	01:02:33
	Good evening once again. Agenda item number 10 is our second public hearing of the evening.	01:02:38
	And it's provided.	01:02:43
	With the intent to allow Council to consider the adoption of a resolution.	01:02:45
	That would amend the recreation fees section of the city's master fee schedule.	01:02:49
	So, by way of review, the city's master fee schedule establishes costs to be charged in exchange for materials or services.	01:02:58
	That directly benefit an individual or a specific group.	01:03:05
	The fee schedule covers a wide variety of fees.	01:03:09
	Ranging from building and safety fees.	01:03:12
	To fees related to police services.	01:03:14
	Included.	01:03:17
	Our fees associated with the rental of spaces in cities, parks and facilities.	01:03:18
	Those fees are commonly influenced by rates charged for comparable amenities in nearby agencies.	01:03:24
	As discussed before.	01:03:34
	The Bubbling Springs Park renovation project is going to redesign the park and offer new and renovated park amenities.	01:03:36
	None of the amenities within the park currently contain fees in the city's fee schedule.	01:03:45
	However, umm.	01:03:51
	Because the multi-purpose fields, AKA the soccer fields, picnic areas.	01:03:52
	The community room and the ball fields are all proposed to be subject to reservation.	01:03:57
	We are recommending that part.	01:04:02
	Park permit fees.	01:04:04
	Be established for their use.	01:04:05
	Because park and facility rental fees are typically set at market rate.	01:04:14
	Fees charged by other local agencies are often considered when setting.	01:04:19
	Or establishing new or revised fees.	01:04:24
	In this particular case, the city reviewed fees from 7 other agencies in Ventura County, including the cities of Ventura.	01:04:28
	Santa Paula, Moorpark, Ohio.	01:04:35
	Fillmore, as well as the Pleasant Valley and Rancho Simi Park and recreation districts.	01:04:37
	While agencies differ in their approach.	01:04:43
	All have some type of tiered rate structure.	01:04:45
	Staff is proposing a tiered.	01:04:49
	Approach here as well.	01:04:52
	The proposed approach.	01:04:54
	Provides one rate for residents and nonprofit groups and a second higher rate for non residents.	01:04:56
	In establishing the list of proposed fees for field reservations.	01:05:03
	Staff sought to keep the resident nonprofit rate at or below the average for such rates.	01:05:07
	For ball fields, the proposed amounts are closely aligned, although slightly higher than the existing fee for the use of Miranda	01:05:14
	Park fields.	01:05:18
	The multipurpose fields.	01:05:23
	Are designed for six and under, and eight and under use and as such.	01:05:25
	Are not comparable to full size soccer fields.	01:05:29
	Therefore, the proposed fees.	01:05:33
	Are approximately 1/2 of the average resident fee found in other agencies?	01:05:35
	Non resident fees were set to closely align with the average.	01:05:41
	Non resident fee found in other agencies.	01:05:45
	While providing reservable picnic areas is a very common practice for other agencies.	01:05:53
	The fees charged and the duration of reservation periods vary considerably.	01:05:59
	Picnic areas at Bubbling Springs Park are proposed to be subject to a three hour reservation period.	01:06:05
	With the ability to add additional hours.	01:06:10
	At a resident rate of $60.00 for the three hour period.	01:06:13
	And $20.00 for an additional hour.	01:06:16
	Or a non resident rate of $90.00 for a three hour period.	01:06:19
	With a $30 additional hour.	01:06:22
	The new community room, which is located adjacent to Ball Field 1.	01:06:26
	Is proposed to be subject.	01:06:30
	To reservation fees equal to 1/2 of the fees that currently exist.	01:06:31
	To rent A classroom at the Community Center or the Miranda Park.	01:06:36
	Meeting room.	01:06:39
	That lower cost is due to the fact that the size of the new community room is significantly smaller than the classrooms and the	01:06:41
	room at Miranda Park.	01:06:45
	And therefore can accommodate.	01:06:50
	Many fewer people than those other facilities.	01:06:52
	That provides an overview of the presentation and once again, I'm happy to answer questions the Council may have.	01:06:59
	Are there any questions?	01:07:05
	So you're talking about the picnic area at the ball field?	01:07:09
	Or are you talking about picnic areas on Park Ave.	01:07:14
	So we envision right now, based on the park design, that there would be two covered picnic areas that would be subject to	01:07:18
	reservation.	01:07:21
	I guess my question would be for for all the items that would have fees connected to them our.	01:07:28
	Are they all secure?	01:07:33
	Meaning no one just can walk up to them and justice use them.	01:07:36
	They're not, and the way we envision this playing out would be that if it's not reserved, it would be available for public use.	01:07:40
	But if an individual or a group wanted to reserve it to ensure that they had access to that facility, that option would be	01:07:48
	available to them.	01:07:51
	Any other questions?	01:07:56
	OK, I will now open the public hearing and take public comments.	01:07:59
	The time is now 736. Are there any public comments regarding this item? No public comments.	01:08:04
	Thank you.	01:08:09
	Public input has concluded. I will now close the public hearing.	01:08:10
	At the time of 736.	01:08:14
	So we have before us recommendations.	01:08:17
	To adopt the resolution entitled a resolution of the City Council.	01:08:19
	Of the City of Port Hueneme, CA amending the city's master fee schedule.	01:08:23
	To revise recreation based fees in the city's master.	01:08:28
	Fee schedule.	01:08:32
	Find the project to be statutorily.	01:08:33
	Exempt from SEQUA pursuant to SEQUA Guidelines section 15273.	01:08:36
	Rates, tolls, fares and charges and take such additional related action that may be desirable.	01:08:42
	May I have a motion and a second?	01:08:49
	Move to approve.	01:08:52
	2nd.	01:08:53
	Is there any discussion?	01:08:55
	All right, Madam Clerk, please take a vote.	01:08:58
	Councilmember Goma? Yes, Councilmember Hernandez.	01:09:00
	Yes, Councilmember Perez. Yes, Mayor Pro Tem Lopez.	01:09:03
	Yes. And Mayor McQueen Lejeune. Yes. Motion passes unanimously.	01:09:07
	Thank you.	01:09:11
	And thank you.	01:09:14
	Mr. Perez.	01:09:15
	Report We will now move on to business items.	01:09:17
	#11 being short term rental regulatory options.	01:09:22
	Will staff present the report?	01:09:26
	Thank you.	01:09:30
	Yes, we have AI know.	01:09:33
	Everybody, probably.	01:09:35
	Saw that it's a very lengthy report with the.	01:09:37
	I think there was a couple 100 pages of attachments.	01:09:41
	307.	01:09:44
	I lost count at some point.	01:09:47
	So I won't get get into that level of detail. I think with the presentation, we'll try to keep it fairly high level.	01:09:49
	I obviously there's no ordinance drafted at this point.	01:09:56
	The City Council had.	01:10:01
	Gotten some public comments about.	01:10:04
	Some desires from the community members about short term rental regulations.	01:10:07
	And.	01:10:12
	The City Council asked staff to prepare sort of an overview and of.	01:10:13
	What's what could be done? And maybe what other cities, neighboring cities have done?	01:10:19
	So we have a presentation focused on that.	01:10:23
	All sort of.	01:10:29
	Preview the recommendation, which I think they are at the end of.	01:10:30
	The presentation our recommendation is.	01:10:35
	If we want to move forward with short term rental regulations, we recommend doing some public outreach meetings and some community	01:10:38
	conversation type meetings because.	01:10:42
	I think there's a lot of.	01:10:47
	There's a lot of options and we won't.	01:10:49
	Be able to talk about every option, we'll talk about sort of the high level paths, but.	01:10:51
	I think that there's more conversation.	01:10:58
	With the community about what the key issues are that we are trying to address and that we want to address so.	01:11:01
	So we'll get to that at the end, but we'll sort of start with.	01:11:07
	An overview.	01:11:12
	So for anybody not familiar, a short term rental is a rental of a.	01:11:14
	Home, apartment or room that is for less than 30 consecutive days.	01:11:21
	There, there's a lot of.	01:11:26
	That definition is pretty.	01:11:29
	Firm.	01:11:33
	I think a lot of people.	01:11:34
	Will get confused over time where people will say well I have like.	01:11:36
	You know, somebody staying for 27 days, is that, you know, does that count? Well, it's a 30 day cutoff, so.	01:11:39
	A rental of 29 days is a short term rental. A rental of one day is a short term rental, and then a rental of 30 days or longer	01:11:45
	than that is not a short term rental. So.	01:11:50
	So when we're talking about short term rentals, we're talking about those types of stays for less than 30 consecutive days.	01:11:54
	And most frequently, people are familiar with Airbnb or VRBO as the two most frequent booking platforms.	01:12:03
	But and those are the easiest to regulate because.	01:12:11
	Were able to see those and and have access to that, but obviously somebody could be.	01:12:14
	Renting a short term rental by word of mouth or.	01:12:20
	Or, you know, it used to be Craigslist. Or, you know, whatever the new version of that is.	01:12:24
	It doesn't have to be.	01:12:31
	It's not only Airbnb and VRBO that are.	01:12:32
	That are the only short term rental.	01:12:36
	Platforms. Those are just the two most common.	01:12:38
	So, umm.	01:12:41
	So that's what we are talking about when we talk about a short term rental.	01:12:43
	A lot of cities around us are starting to regulate short term rentals.	01:12:47
	The City of Port Hueneme currently does not have any regulations restricting short term rentals.	01:12:52
	Which essentially means that.	01:12:57
	People can legally.	01:12:59
	Rent out their properties for less than 30 days.	01:13:01
	Under our current.	01:13:04
	Code and rules.	01:13:06
	And.	01:13:07
	We are aware of 14 that actually.	01:13:08
	Have registered with the city and pay transient occupancy tax.	01:13:13
	Those 14 total about 24 to $29,000 in taxes paid each year. So 14 total not.	01:13:18
	It's not.	01:13:27
	That amount for each one, it's 14 short term rentals.	01:13:28
	Totaling 24 to $29,000.	01:13:32
	But when we just were doing research for this, we looked and found that.	01:13:36
	There's closer to 50.	01:13:41
	Short term rentals advertised on either Airbnb or VRBO. So what that means it could be one of two things, probably a combination	01:13:43
	of both.	01:13:48
	Is that?	01:13:52
	Either some people are renting out units that aren't reporting that to the city and aren't paying TOT.	01:13:53
	And probably a combination of both that some people probably.	01:14:00
	Listed it on Airbnb a couple years ago and then forgot about it and left it up. So the true number is probably 30 to 40 units	01:14:04
	would be my guess.	01:14:08
	And like we said, 14.	01:14:13
	Are actually reporting to the city.	01:14:15
	So can I ask one question? Sure so but there can be people who want Airbnb and verbal.	01:14:18
	Yes.	01:14:24
	Now those are they really separate, you can.	01:14:25
	You can list on both. You can list the same property on both.	01:14:30
	But do we know that we're counting? We're not double counting something. I believe we were counting unique ones, so.	01:14:33
	Thank you.	01:14:39
	And then one interesting thing for Winnie me every city is different and every city has a different.	01:14:40
	Issue with short term rentals.	01:14:46
	One interesting thing for us in Port Hueneme is that.	01:14:48
	Almost all of the listings are within the coastal zone.	01:14:51
	And so makes sense, you know, people are listing them with the idea that somebody wants to come to I need me and stay for a week	01:14:55
	and go to the beach, so.	01:14:59
	We're almost all of ours on the map show within the coastal zone.	01:15:04
	So.	01:15:11
	We'll talk a little bit about why that's important because of the California Coastal Commission.	01:15:13
	Makes it a little bit more complicated.	01:15:19
	But at a high level.	01:15:23
	We looked at neighboring cities, neighboring agencies.	01:15:25
	There's really these five key areas that.	01:15:28
	Most regulations.	01:15:32
	Even though the specific standard might be a little different, there's five key areas that they address and it's.	01:15:34
	Requiring permitting and licensing.	01:15:41
	Requiring the payment of transient occupancy tax.	01:15:43
	Identifying operational standards.	01:15:47
	Setting health and safety requirements and then.	01:15:50
	Identifying enforcement and penalties for.	01:15:53
	For umm.	01:15:56
	People that violate rules.	01:15:57
	So within those.	01:15:59
	Permitting and licensing obviously requiring a.	01:16:01
	Short term rental permit, a business license, those types of things. Usually the ordinances will.	01:16:04
	Specify which of those are required and what the fees are for those.	01:16:10
	TOT.	01:16:15
	Transient occupancy tax.	01:16:17
	Essentially.	01:16:19
	A lot of.	01:16:20
	Places used to call it hotel tax. It's the same same tax.	01:16:21
	So they the ordinances will establish a.	01:16:25
	Usually will state that short term rentals will pay the hotel tax and then.	01:16:29
	Essentially.	01:16:34
	State how that's done.	01:16:35
	The operational standards.	01:16:37
	Is probably the key area that I think most of the complaints that we have gotten so far relate to you.	01:16:39
	Which is.	01:16:45
	Setting things like maximum numbers of units that can be rented, maximum numbers of nights that a unit can be rented.	01:16:46
	Parking requirements. Noise requirements, Trash protocols.	01:16:53
	And.	01:16:58
	The signage, identifying rules and contact information if somebody's breaking the rules.	01:16:59
	And then?	01:17:06
	Health requirements or things like fire safety standards and compliance with building codes.	01:17:07
	And then as I said earlier, the usually the ordinance will establish fines.	01:17:13
	And penalties for violation of any of those rules.	01:17:18
	Those are those are the key areas that short term rental regulations focus on.	01:17:22
	We will show our foremost neighboring agencies who have adopted regulations will show.	01:17:28
	A couple slides that show what they have set for each of those and you'll see that.	01:17:35
	They vary depending on.	01:17:38
	What the concern was.	01:17:41
	So we mentioned that almost all of the units are within the coastal zone.	01:17:43
	This map that shows that blue line going through it.	01:17:47
	Show everything on the.	01:17:52
	Left hand side of that blue line is within the coastal zone.	01:17:55
	And most of the short term rental issues and units that we see are within that zone.	01:18:00
	And.	01:18:07
	That's important because the Coastal Commission.	01:18:08
	Has a mandate to protect and enhance public access to the coast.	01:18:11
	So they actually.	01:18:15
	Generally have said that they do not support an outright ban on short term rentals.	01:18:17
	They the Coastal Commission views short term rentals is another tool to help people.	01:18:22
	Get to the beach.	01:18:28
	It's you know, if you as a.	01:18:29
	Renter of these units.	01:18:32
	If this is the way that you can spend your vacation at the beach, then the Coastal Commission supports that is providing equal	01:18:34
	access to the beach.	01:18:38
	But so they don't allow an outright ban, but they do allow.	01:18:44
	Reasonable regulation.	01:18:48
	They say that the regulations must.	01:18:51
	Preserve visitor access and address community concerns.	01:18:53
	And they typically require a local Coastal Program amendment to be approved by the Commission.	01:18:57
	And some of the cities around us are actually working through that process now. So we'll be able to see pretty soon if.	01:19:03
	For example Ventur.	01:19:10
	Ordinances go under review by the Commission.	01:19:11
	And we'll be able to see.	01:19:14
	If it gets approved by the Commission or if they have concerns with some of the rules that Ventura is implementing.	01:19:15
	And so.	01:19:24
	Some of the one of the attachments was a chart showing.	01:19:25
	All the different short term rental.	01:19:29
	Regulations adopted.	01:19:31
	By cities within California Coastal Commission.	01:19:33
	So looking at those.	01:19:36
	We saw some of the measures that Coastal Commission typically allows and supports.	01:19:38
	And those are things like limiting the total amount of rentals by a neighborhood, so.	01:19:43
	For example saying.	01:19:49
	10% of the.	01:19:50
	Only 10% of the units within the coastal zone can be rented as short term rentals or only.	01:19:52
	You know, either by kind of a ratio or even like a number like 50.	01:19:58
	50 units within the.	01:20:03
	Coastal zone, something like that.	01:20:06
	They the Coastal Commission also.	01:20:09
	Allowed for rules for cities to adopt rules saying that 80 use or affordable.	01:20:12
	Housing could not be used as short term rentals.	01:20:19
	We haven't heard this so much in our complaints, but it is a.	01:20:24
	Common concern.	01:20:27
	When short term rentals are discussed is that there is an argument that they increase the price of housing because it's.	01:20:30
	Essentially another path for people to turn a housing unit into an investment and.	01:20:36
	Purchase a property with the intent of renting it out, whereas previously that would have been a unit that somebody could have	01:20:41
	actually purchased and lived in.	01:20:45
	So there is.	01:20:49
	Concerns related to them impacting housing stock available and affordable housing in particular.	01:20:50
	So the Coastal Commission has allowed some restrictions.	01:20:57
	Where Adu's or affordable units can't be used as short term rentals.	01:21:01
	If cities say that the intent of those is to allow for affordable housing.	01:21:06
	Mr. City Manager can interrupt you. I'm sorry. So I just want to get this correct. So.	01:21:12
	If somebody came to the city and said I'm gonna build a Adu.	01:21:17
	And we approve it.	01:21:20
	And then they realized there's more money to be had in a short term rental situation.	01:21:22
	Because I'm in the coastal zone, so then.	01:21:27
	We would be able to.	01:21:30
	Shut it down or would they be able to reapply and say well no I wouldn't be a short term rental so as of now?	01:21:33
	The Coastal Commission has said that it would allow cities to say that's not allowed.	01:21:41
	So we don't have an ordinance drafted yet, but the council could direct staff.	01:21:47
	If we were going to move forward to draft an ordinance.	01:21:54
	Saying we don't want short term rentals to be.	01:21:57
	Allowed in.	01:22:03
	Accessory dwelling units or affordable housing units.	01:22:04
	So that power.	01:22:08
	Exists right now.	01:22:10
	Is there a situation where somebody would say well?	01:22:11
	When I was.	01:22:15
	Building the Adu.	01:22:17
	I didn't have the option.	01:22:19
	Now I have the option.	01:22:21
	So now I want to go in the other direction.	01:22:23
	The only.	01:22:31
	The only way I think that could happen, and I don't know if we did this, but I know when Adus were first allowed by the state, a	01:22:34
	lot of times they were required to have a covenant.	01:22:38
	Saying what they could and could not be used for.	01:22:42
	If if we for example.	01:22:46
	Decided that they should be allowed.	01:22:49
	Aid in accessory dwelling units and that's something we'd have to look at with is whether.	01:22:53
	People have those covenants and what we need to do at that point, but.	01:22:57
	I think the intent of what we're saying is the inverse of that though is that the Coastal Commission has said we can protect 80	01:23:01
	use an affordable units.	01:23:05
	So you know.	01:23:10
	We have the ability to.	01:23:13
	Not.	01:23:17
	To keep those from becoming short term rentals if the council chose to do that.	01:23:17
	Go ahead.	01:23:24
	So in areas that are not.	01:23:25
	In the coastal zone.	01:23:27
	But are in Port Wayne, Amy.	01:23:30
	We're not going to have language like that restricting Adus from being short term rentals.	01:23:31
	Ultimately up to the Council.	01:23:37
	The the council and the city have more authority over.	01:23:39
	The.	01:23:44
	Areas that are not within the coastal zone.	01:23:47
	So the reason we're talking about the coastal zone is because.	01:23:50
	Pretty much the City Council has the ability to regulate short term rentals.	01:23:54
	In the city.	01:23:58
	The only asterisks is in the coastal zone. The Coastal Commission has to approve what we do.	01:23:59
	So we started with knowing that most of our units are in the coastal zone. We're starting by saying here's what the Coastal	01:24:04
	Commission has allowed cities to do and.	01:24:08
	In the coastal.	01:24:12
	But typically we could be more strict.	01:24:14
	Outside. Outside of the coastal zone.	01:24:16
	It just doesn't really make sense for us as a city because we don't really. From what we found, there aren't really many outside	01:24:18
	of the coastal zone.	01:24:21
	But.	01:24:26
	But even that goes back to why we started seeing.	01:24:27
	Probably the next step is some community conversations because.	01:24:30
	I think some of the things we've heard from people are a concern that.	01:24:33
	These are going to start.	01:24:37
	Becoming more.	01:24:39
	Widespread and that more people are going to start doing this. So some people have said we need to do something about these.	01:24:41
	Before uh.	01:24:47
	They, you know, they explode.	01:24:48
	And so.	01:24:50
	That's yet to be seen, you know.	01:24:53
	I think what we've seen.	01:24:56
	Everywhere around us, I think would would say is.	01:24:58
	Airbnb.	01:25:03
	Has.	01:25:04
	And it seems like right now we're in sort of.	01:25:05
	Downtrend.	01:25:08
	I think Airbnb and VRBO as as their.	01:25:09
	Their own like.	01:25:14
	Business reports show that.	01:25:16
	They hit a peak a couple years ago and.	01:25:18
	And the number of units being rented or dropping so.	01:25:20
	So I think the conversation about them getting more widespread.	01:25:23
	Is something.	01:25:28
	That we can talk about.	01:25:30
	But it's it's not clear at this point if that's actually happening.	01:25:33
	So it appears then that.	01:25:40
	Our issues with the coastal zone is HOA.	01:25:44
	The HOA's are going to be.	01:25:48
	The second layer of the rule makers.	01:25:51
	And.	01:25:54
	Do we?	01:25:57
	Supplement their rules? Or do we we we lay the framework and then?	01:25:58
	Because I like Surfside 3.	01:26:03
	Like a couple 100 units over there.	01:26:05
	Yeah. And this is where it gets particularly complicated and it's on this slide.	01:26:07
	So I'll, I'll go back transition back to the slide, but.	01:26:13
	Essentially.	01:26:18
	It gets more complicated with homeowners associations in the coastal zone because homeowners associations.	01:26:19
	Had short term rental rules in place prior to 1977.	01:26:26
	Then they're allowed to enforce those.	01:26:31
	But if they.	01:26:34
	Have tried to make any rules after 1977. Those actually require a.	01:26:35
	Coastal development permit.	01:26:41
	And, umm.	01:26:43
	They, I think one of the things we've heard and seen is that.	01:26:47
	Homeowners associations are actually sort of struggling to get.	01:26:52
	Regulations approved by the coastal zone.	01:26:56
	So whereas.	01:26:58
	The HOA's.	01:27:05
	Have.	01:27:07
	Not been able to get the approval from the coastal zones or have been told that they're unlikely to get approval for the coastal	01:27:07
	zone, so that's why they've come to the city asking for the city to adopt something.	01:27:13
	That would be considered by the Coastal Commission.	01:27:18
	I'm trying to I'm thinking trying to formulate.	01:27:27
	So what? What I just heard you say is that.	01:27:29
	It gets complicated. Yes, it went right over my head. I think so.	01:27:34
	Individuals or HOA's trying to get something passed in the coastal zone or leaving it up to us to try to get something passed, but	01:27:38
	how much luck are we going to have?	01:27:43
	With it, I think that's really it is so the HOA's and the coastal zone have.	01:27:49
	Run into roadblocks and they've said can we do something about it? Are we going to have any authority to be able to do so? And the	01:27:54
	answer is we still have to go through the Coastal Commission.	01:27:59
	And they will.	01:28:04
	They are.	01:28:06
	Taking some things out of our hands, like we can't just ban them in the coastal zone for example, we can't say no short term	01:28:07
	rentals allowed.	01:28:10
	But what our research did find is that.	01:28:14
	Usually if we have reasonable measures then.	01:28:17
	They've supported those reasonable measures.	01:28:20
	So, so, and part of what you've given us is what the Coastal Commission is doing. Yeah. So then we have information or some a lot.	01:28:23
	Well, we know we could have.	01:28:28
	Yeah.	01:28:35
	Yeah. So the list that we have right then beneath that regulatory measures supported by the Coastal Commission are generally the	01:28:35
	things that the Coastal Commission has approved in other cities around us.	01:28:40
	So when a member of Surfside 3 or 4, whatever says.	01:28:46
	There's a short term rental and they had a bachelor party this weekend. It was crazy. 30 people showed up.	01:28:52
	Right now we don't have the ability to go in and.	01:28:58
	Police it.	01:29:02
	Other than you're violating the noise ordinance, it would have to be something in our existing code, like a noise ordinance issue.	01:29:03
	So OK.	01:29:13
	So.	01:29:16
	Yeah. And we'll get to that. We'll get to that in a couple slides. I think one of the things that we would want to make clear when	01:29:18
	we have our community conversations is.	01:29:22
	I do. I would always just caution people. I think sometimes people say, well, if we adopted this then the city would be able to	01:29:26
	shut down that party.	01:29:30
	The reality is, we're not.	01:29:33
	We don't have staff.	01:29:35
	That respond to.	01:29:37
	Code compliance issues at 2:00 AM other than the police and I wouldn't recommend using the police to go after short term rentals.	01:29:39
	So we likely won't have an immediate response whether we adopt A short term rental or not.	01:29:46
	But.	01:29:53
	Some cities do have is.	01:29:54
	Things like a way to contact the property owner, where the property owner has to post their contact information where they can,	01:29:56
	whether they answer the phone 24 hours a day.	01:30:00
	And then a resident can call that property owner and.	01:30:05
	And ask them to.	01:30:09
	Ask their tenant to.	01:30:10
	You know, shut down a party or something like that.	01:30:12
	And I met excuse me and I imagine even.	01:30:15
	Even though we don't have an ordinance in place now.	01:30:18
	There's still the HOA who has their rules.	01:30:21
	That will respond.	01:30:25
	Things like that. So yes, OK. And it's just that the HOA is if they didn't have a rule.	01:30:26
	Pre 1977 about short term rentals then they can't enforce.	01:30:32
	Noise and all of those things, nuisance type things.	01:30:38
	So. So it's not a magic bullet.	01:30:42
	But we have, it would give us some abilities. And so that's really what we're focusing on with this list.	01:30:44
	Some of the abilities that we would have in the coastal zone would be limiting the total short term rentals.	01:30:50
	By neighborhood or with, like we said, a certain percentage of overall housing units.	01:30:57
	Restricting.	01:31:03
	Not allowing short term rentals at Adus or Affordable.	01:31:06
	Units has been supported by the Coastal Commission.	01:31:09
	Capping the.	01:31:13
	Rental duration, so no more than a certain.	01:31:14
	Number of days.	01:31:18
	Capping occupancy, you know no more than a certain number of people.	01:31:21
	Requiring 24 hour management of the units by the property owner like we mentioned a moment ago.	01:31:25
	Requiring.	01:31:33
	Measures for parking related issues, garbage related issues and noise related issues.	01:31:35
	Posting clear signage with 24 hour contact information for the property owner and the operational rules.	01:31:40
	Ensuring the.	01:31:48
	Transient occupancy tax.	01:31:49
	Payment is required and and.	01:31:52
	And paid.	01:31:55
	And then?	01:31:57
	Really.	01:31:59
	Like like we said a moment ago, most cities around us when they've adopted it.	01:32:01
	They make clear that.	01:32:06
	They're not going to have staff shut down.	01:32:07
	A rental, you're not gonna go kick somebody out because they're being loud, you know, it's just.	01:32:10
	That's not the recourse, but what does happen is if the same property owner has multiple violations, then that's when the city	01:32:17
	says OK from.	01:32:21
	At this point, you know you violated.	01:32:25
	You know, too many times and we're pulling your permits and you're, you're not allowed to have a short term rental anymore.	01:32:27
	So. So that's typically how most of the cities have enforced it.	01:32:32
	Mayor, have a question?	01:32:38
	The 1977 date for audience information. What is the significance of that?	01:32:40
	Why before and not after? Believe it's when the Coastal Commission.	01:32:46
	Was established, Yeah.	01:32:52
	Yeah, so if you made a rule before they existed.	01:32:55
	They honor it.	01:32:58
	If you didn't, they get authority or priority over it.	01:32:59
	Can can we?	01:33:05
	Require large deposits on the property owner.	01:33:07
	For example, let's say the.	01:33:12
	Proverbial bachelor party gets out of hand and causes damage to public property in addition to.	01:33:14
	Can we do things like that? Yeah, we should be able to.	01:33:20
	One of the things we'll talk about are like the fees and I think.	01:33:24
	That's part of it.	01:33:27
	I didn't see deposit specifically, but I don't see why that would be.	01:33:30
	I don't see.	01:33:35
	An issue where that would conflict with the Coastal Commission, so I think that would be.	01:33:36
	Allowed, although we'd have to submit it to the Coastal Commission.	01:33:40
	Yeah, I'm going to step out for just a second. So the comments.	01:33:44
	OK.	01:33:48
	And so.	01:33:50
	A little bit more on the homeowners associations.	01:33:53
	And short term rentals.	01:33:56
	Any regulation significantly affecting short term rentals in the coastal zone must align with the state law and be approved by the	01:33:57
	Coastal Commission.	01:34:01
	Like we said earlier.	01:34:05
	We were just the slide behind but outside the coastal zone HOA's.	01:34:07
	And cities have broader authority to regulate or restrict STR's short term rentals.	01:34:12
	But it's that additional layer of that Coastal Commission review that that causes the.	01:34:18
	The limitations in the coastal zone.	01:34:23
	There's a few cases that established these rules listed here.	01:34:26
	And I think we we covered all these, so I will go.	01:34:33
	Ahead, So we wanted to highlight, you know, what we hear and understand are the potential challenges with adopting a short term	01:34:37
	rental.	01:34:42
	Ordinance.	01:34:48
	I spoke about these.	01:34:49
	In that prior slide at a high level, but.	01:34:52
	In short, there are three main challenges that that some of the cities cited.	01:34:55
	Resource constraints, identification issues, and effective.	01:35:00
	Enforcement tactics. How to How to make sure those tactics are effective.	01:35:05
	For resource constraints like.	01:35:09
	I said a moment ago, Cities noted. They don't.	01:35:12
	Have most cities don't have code enforcement staff working?	01:35:15
	24/7 you usually identify key.	01:35:19
	Times of the day.	01:35:24
	That you would have them work.	01:35:26
	And so if they aren't working 24/7, if they aren't working evening or weekends.	01:35:28
	Then there isn't somebody to respond to those issues right away.	01:35:33
	As we talked about before and it'll be on another slide.	01:35:38
	One way to solve that would be having the property owner responsible for.	01:35:41
	For being the point of contact to address issues.	01:35:46
	So we'll talk about that.	01:35:50
	Also, just with limited staff and then budget limitations.	01:35:52
	Typically even just things like monitoring for short term rentals cities now are contracting with.	01:35:58
	Service provider who actually monitors and searches out the short term rentals. So those are things that require some resources.	01:36:04
	And then?	01:36:15
	Permitting system.	01:36:17
	Business licensing, all of those things.	01:36:19
	Require staff time to process.	01:36:22
	Those require resources as well.	01:36:25
	We mentioned identification issues, that's.	01:36:30
	Probably the biggest challenge is once you start enforcing.	01:36:33
	Regulations. Well.	01:36:37
	People get very crafty and.	01:36:39
	I've gone through this where.	01:36:42
	What we started to see after we started enforcing was.	01:36:44
	People would literally take one picture inside their house with all their windows closed just to show the inside of the room.	01:36:49
	And then?	01:36:55
	Essentially do that so that.	01:36:57
	We, as the staff cannot figure out where the unit is.	01:36:59
	Because if they're only advertising on Airbnb with one picture inside the house, you don't have any way to identify the unit.	01:37:03
	So online listings can be very difficult to actually.	01:37:10
	Find the exact unit.	01:37:15
	There are a couple of tricks to it and a couple of contractors.	01:37:18
	Who are able to get like identifying information from?	01:37:23
	Even things like IP addresses and stuff like that. So. So there are some ways to work with that, but that goes back to resources.	01:37:28
	So and so and then.	01:37:34
	What my experience was even.	01:37:39
	Dropping the number of units that were advertised online.	01:37:41
	From hundreds down to just a couple.	01:37:45
	There was still a concern from.	01:37:48
	A prior community that.	01:37:51
	That there was still word of mouth rentals going on. There were still just people who had friends who every year would come rent	01:37:54
	their.	01:37:57
	Condo and have a party or whatever it was.	01:38:01
	And so obviously those are even harder to catch because you just.	01:38:04
	You you usually only hear about those.	01:38:09
	When the, you know, you get the call at 2:00 AM because they're having the party and they want somebody to enforce, but there was	01:38:12
	no other way to.	01:38:15
	To identify it ahead of time.	01:38:18
	So. So those are some of the issues.	01:38:22
	We talked about the effective enforcement tactics like requiring the 24/7.	01:38:26
	Property owner Property manager Contact information.	01:38:31
	Having a complete hotline for neighbors and residents online. Moderate monitoring tools to track rentals.	01:38:34
	And progressive penalty structures up to the revocation of the permit, those are typically the things that most of the regulations	01:38:40
	have that actually work.	01:38:44
	And so I won't go into these in detail, but.	01:38:50
	Those earlier slides where we said.	01:38:52
	Each of the cities around us.	01:38:55
	Kind of have these key.	01:38:57
	Areas.	01:38:58
	These are the detail of those and there there's slight differences, for example Oxnard.	01:39:00
	You'll note has a.	01:39:06
	A permit that costs several $1000.	01:39:08
	And by comparison, Carpinteria has a permit that costs about $400.	01:39:13
	Um, yes.	01:39:18
	Does the county have?	01:39:21
	Because I was just thinking Silver Strand Beach is.	01:39:23
	Yeah. OK. I'll get to them there on the next slide.	01:39:27
	Similar.	01:39:31
	I won't go through everything but another example is Oxnard has a 10%.	01:39:34
	Hotel tax Carpentry has a 12% hotel hotel tax, so.	01:39:38
	There's they all have the same areas, it's just that the specifics of the rules might be a little bit different.	01:39:42
	And then you can see some examples there like with Oxnard, it's 10% of the beach zone is.	01:39:49
	Is eligible for short term rentals so they have a cap on it.	01:39:55
	They have a minimum three night stay.	01:39:58
	And a maximum of 100 nights per year at each of the houses.	01:40:01
	Again.	01:40:06
	Sounds great and I think that.	01:40:08
	Probably addresses some of the concerns, but it's also very difficult to actually enforce.	01:40:10
	Like who's actually going to track whether somebody's at 99 nights or.	01:40:15
	001.	01:40:19
	So some of these rules are more difficult than others to enforce.	01:40:20
	And then things like good neighbor rules, quiet hours.	01:40:25
	Parking requirements that they that people leave a certain amount of spaces available.	01:40:32
	In their garage or driveway, things like that.	01:40:38
	So, so those are typical.	01:40:41
	Regulations. That's Oxnard.	01:40:43
	We also looked at Carpinteria. Similar, just.	01:40:46
	They'd be a lot of the a lot of similar requirements, but with slight differences.	01:40:49
	And then?	01:40:54
	We mentioned city of Ventura and then county of Ventura and you could see again similarly that.	01:40:55
	City of Ventura has a very low fee and then County of Ventura has a higher fee that compares to Oxnard.	01:41:01
	Probably for that very reason mentioned is that.	01:41:07
	Oxnard and then Silver Strand.	01:41:11
	A lot of people don't really know the difference and so.	01:41:14
	If one is vastly different than the other, it's it would probably cause a problem, so.	01:41:17
	They have more similarities.	01:41:23
	And I think for that.	01:41:26
	Reason we'd look.	01:41:27
	Similarly for Port Hueneme, with us being sort of the next beach after that.	01:41:28
	And so.	01:41:34
	It's something to keep in mind the.	01:41:36
	One of the challenges is going to be with if we only have, let's say 30 or 40.	01:41:39
	Short term rentals.	01:41:43
	Is.	01:41:45
	If we have to, for example.	01:41:46
	Add, you know, a half a person or a full.	01:41:48
	Person worth of staff time.	01:41:52
	The.	01:41:54
	Are the costs of that person should be borne by the people that are?	01:41:57
	Renting their units. It shouldn't be borne by all.	01:42:02
	Taxpayers, it should be the people that are.	01:42:05
	Receiving that benefit of being able to have a short term rental.	01:42:07
	So the costs would not be insignificant. I'd imagine that it would be a couple $1000 per.	01:42:11
	Person per permit.	01:42:17
	And then tot collected as well to try to cover those costs.	01:42:19
	Councillor, I'm sorry, Mayor Pro Tem.	01:42:25
	So.	01:42:28
	As of.	01:42:29
	Today, the HOA Coalition.	01:42:30
	They haven't came.	01:42:33
	To us with.	01:42:35
	Any guidance?	01:42:36
	Like or what what they're seeing as far as.	01:42:38
	What the consensus is within their coalition.	01:42:43
	I think that.	01:42:46
	I haven't heard a consensus.	01:42:48
	I will say my understanding and we might actually hear this and I know we got some written public comments, but.	01:42:50
	I believe.	01:42:56
	One of the.	01:42:57
	Speakers who's commented a few times.	01:42:59
	Is it page? I think page?	01:43:02
	Is, I think, the housing coalitions.	01:43:04
	Chair of their short term rental.	01:43:08
	Review Group.	01:43:11
	And so I don't.	01:43:13
	We haven't gotten a real consensus, but I think that.	01:43:15
	Her comments are.	01:43:18
	Sort of on behalf of the Housing Coalition.	01:43:22
	So we'll we'll hear those.	01:43:25
	But I think that's also why.	01:43:27
	Really, for us, we were saying the next step I think is more conversation.	01:43:29
	To really get a consensus and make sure that we have a consensus because.	01:43:33
	You can see from all of these different regulations.	01:43:38
	I think they were all drafted to.	01:43:41
	Deal with different problems. You know if you're one city and your problem is.	01:43:44
	Too many in the beach zone, then you're going to make one set of rules if you're another city and.	01:43:48
	Your problem is you don't have that many, but it's just, you know, some party houses or something like that, Then you're gonna	01:43:52
	draft another set of rules. Yeah. So I think that's what we need to understand is what?	01:43:58
	People what concerns people want us to address?	01:44:03
	So does this Do we even? I know this is just the conversation, but are we gonna discuss like?	01:44:07
	You know, shared walls.	01:44:15
	You know.	01:44:18
	Which could be a noise issue.	01:44:19
	My suggestion for tonight is I think we're still high level.	01:44:22
	And so.	01:44:28
	I would suggest sort of.	01:44:30
	Focusing on what?	01:44:32
	Option which is the the next slide was.	01:44:34
	There's sort of four options and I think we select an option and then give staff direction to go.	01:44:37
	Talk to the community about.	01:44:44
	That option really.	01:44:46
	And so it segues nicely because I think there's really four options right now and one would be.	01:44:47
	Well, it's.	01:44:53
	It's really 3 but.	01:44:55
	I'll explain.	01:44:57
	That one would just be, you know, if it's not a problem and we're not hearing it's a concern is just no, no action and people who	01:44:59
	rent short term rentals would continue to rent short term rentals.	01:45:04
	And and there wouldn't be.	01:45:08
	Any change from what's happening today?	01:45:11
	And then?	01:45:14
	Second option is.	01:45:16
	What we're calling moderate regulation.	01:45:17
	Introducing good neighbor requirements.	01:45:20
	And what exactly those are to be determined, but you know that would be what we'd be looking to do is introduce good neighbor	01:45:23
	requirements.	01:45:26
	Have a formal permit and license system.	01:45:30
	And.	01:45:34
	The city would provide oversight.	01:45:37
	But probably go into that direction of.	01:45:40
	Requiring the.	01:45:42
	Property owner who's renting the units to really manage.	01:45:44
	Manage it and respond to concerns.	01:45:47
	With the city overseeing that.	01:45:49
	Partially that's because we can do that with.	01:45:52
	Less resources. If we have to actually be the enforcement arm, that's going to require additional resources.	01:45:55
	And then the third option would be the comprehensive regulation, which can be, as you know, things like.	01:46:01
	Putting the caps on how many and what neighborhoods, having a zoning overlay or a district limitation really getting into like.	01:46:06
	Pinpointing where we want short term rentals and where we don't want short term rentals.	01:46:14
	With stronger requirements, stronger enforcement penalties.	01:46:19
	And things like that.	01:46:23
	So those are really the three options, but.	01:46:25
	I said before there was 4 because we recommend the fourth.	01:46:28
	Sort of, regardless which is.	01:46:32
	Regardless of those other options, I think having more.	01:46:34
	Community engagement workshop and a survey, for example.	01:46:38
	To get feedback on.	01:46:42
	What the main priorities are to focus on?	01:46:44
	If we draft an ordinance.	01:46:48
	And the ordinance is aimed at.	01:46:50
	You know, not having short term rentals in this neighborhood, but that's not the concern. The concern is is.	01:46:51
	You know this other neighborhood, then it doesn't really accomplish anything so.	01:46:57
	I think to the point.	01:47:01
	You made a moment ago.	01:47:03
	We haven't heard really a consensus of like what?	01:47:04
	The three or four main issues.	01:47:09
	That need to be addressed are so I think we need to keep.	01:47:11
	Having that conversation to do that.	01:47:14
	And so those are the four options to move forward.	01:47:17
	We are recommending at this point again.	01:47:21
	Starting with that community engagement process.	01:47:24
	And.	01:47:27
	I know there was 307 more pages to talk about but.	01:47:28
	We'll start there and if there's any questions, I'm happy to answer any other questions.	01:47:32
	So if if I'm an owner of a four unit apartment complex.	01:47:37
	I could decide to go short term rental.	01:47:46
	For all four units right now, yes, right.	01:47:49
	When we do our and I agree, I think that the consensus of the coalition was to get the city to start having a conversation.	01:47:53
	It wasn't one way or another, but it was too.	01:48:02
	I was at the meeting by the way.	01:48:05
	So if.	01:48:09
	We develop.	01:48:12
	Comprehensive.	01:48:17
	Regulations.	01:48:18
	Based upon.	01:48:20
	Thorough community engagement.	01:48:22
	We should be able to.	01:48:24
	Come up with something.	01:48:26
	That works for the coastal zone.	01:48:28
	And also works outside of the zone.	01:48:31
	I guess.	01:48:34
	I'm kind of confused about are we only concerned with the coastal zone?	01:48:35
	Or, uh.	01:48:39
	Do we?	01:48:40
	I've used Airbnb in New Orleans one time and it was awesome. It was, it was the best thing ever and so I could see.	01:48:43
	Someone outside of the coastal zone.	01:48:51
	Go in STR.	01:48:54
	And providing a really good service to a family coming here for whatever reason, so.	01:48:56
	So the City Council would have the ability to.	01:49:02
	Adopt an ordinance.	01:49:07
	That applies to both.	01:49:10
	Coastal zone and non coastal zone.	01:49:12
	If desired, obviously the coastal zone one just has to go through Coastal Commission as well, but the City Council could adopt	01:49:15
	that ordinance.	01:49:19
	I think.	01:49:24
	Part of why we're talking about having that community engagement first is as of now, we haven't heard from really anybody that	01:49:25
	there's actually a concern outside of the coastal zone.	01:49:30
	And so maybe, maybe there is and maybe we just haven't heard it.	01:49:35
	And so if we.	01:49:39
	Do you know workshop and surveys? Maybe we'll hear. Oh, actually there's this neighborhood outside of the coastal zone and it's,	01:49:40
	it's really a problem. And here's the problem.	01:49:44
	But.	01:49:48
	That's why for now.	01:49:49
	Most of this report focused on.	01:49:51
	Within the coastal zone is because that is where we're getting the concerns and it's also where.	01:49:53
	All of our short term rentals.	01:49:59
	Are located on Airbnb, VRBO.	01:50:01
	So any other questions?	01:50:05
	Madam Clerk, are there any public comments?	01:50:09
	Yes. First is Jan Burke.	01:50:11
	Good evening, Council Mayor.	01:50:25
	Staff and.	01:50:27
	Neighbors, umm.	01:50:29
	Thank you for bringing this up. It's it's something that has bubbled up.	01:50:31
	Within the HOA coalition as a topic that.	01:50:35
	That I think that what we're seeing is that we're seeing that there needs to be consistency in how this is handled.	01:50:40
	So each of the HOA's have different challenges.	01:50:46
	But we want to make sure that we're being consistent and This is why we're looking to partner with the city.	01:50:49
	To come up with an ordinance or a guideline.	01:50:55
	To help us to create something that works for the city, works for the Hoas.	01:50:58
	And that we're we're all playing on the same level.	01:51:03
	Playing field.	01:51:07
	And some have more challenges. Some of the HOA's that we've heard from have more challenges than others.	01:51:08
	We're starting to see a few in our HOA at the Anacapa View Beach Homes.	01:51:15
	I think that.	01:51:20
	What we're looking to.	01:51:22
	To do and this is really great.	01:51:24
	And I want to thank you.	01:51:26
	Miss City Manager Vega for putting this together because this is really helpful.	01:51:27
	To help kind of really kind of sort through what's already going on in the in this in our local region.	01:51:32
	So that we can kind of mirror potentially some of the elements there. But I think the one The thing is unique is that the coastal	01:51:38
	zone here in Winimi.	01:51:42
	Is all.	01:51:46
	Hoas.	01:51:47
	Right. Umm.	01:51:49
	So one of the great things I think that can be beneficial here, we're not. You're not.	01:51:50
	An individual homeowner.	01:51:55
	That has a heart that you would have a hard time enforcing.	01:51:57
	And partnering with because it's a one off type situation.	01:52:01
	Our HOA's would be willing to work with the city.	01:52:05
	To help.	01:52:08
	Enforce and help.	01:52:09
	Manage the enforcement because we.	01:52:11
	It's our property values, it's our, it's our quality of life within those communities that we.	01:52:15
	Value and I think that that's where.	01:52:20
	This is sort of kind of.	01:52:22
	Natural evolution, if you will.	01:52:24
	For our community.	01:52:27
	And we appreciate.	01:52:30
	The help?	01:52:31
	And I think that we can come to a.	01:52:33
	A policy and a guidelines that we can get, we can live with together that will be mutually beneficial. We don't want it to be an	01:52:38
	overreaching.	01:52:41
	Burden to the city.	01:52:46
	But we want it to be something that's simple but yet.	01:52:48
	Works effectively.	01:52:50
	I think that's what.	01:52:52
	Thank you.	01:52:53
	David Scribner.	01:52:55
	Good evening everybody.	01:53:07
	As the president of the Village Homeowners Association and vice chair of the HHOAC.	01:53:10
	Because these two hats on today, they're slightly different.	01:53:16
	But as a suicide village, we would prefer that we didn't have any short term rentals in there, but that's not realistic.	01:53:19
	And we're not asking for that.	01:53:27
	Basically.	01:53:29
	We don't have any at this point. I think that housing prices are high enough to where I think you'd have a hard time.	01:53:30
	You make more money renting entity with.	01:53:37
	The short term rental.	01:53:41
	That's not the case for the places that face the beach, I don't think. I think they get more so.	01:53:42
	What we would like is for you to.	01:53:47
	Address this past something.	01:53:50
	That regulates it.	01:53:52
	One of the things you may not be aware of is as a homeowners association when somebody has a violation.	01:53:54
	You can.	01:54:00
	Go through this process really slowly, keep escalating things and eventually find them.	01:54:01
	And it's actually impossible to collect those fines.	01:54:05
	So until somebody sells their house or whatever.	01:54:09
	You can't, you can't collect on any of them. So there's not a lot of teeth in our ability to control somebody who has a big party	01:54:12
	house every once a month, so.	01:54:17
	What we would like is for you to go ahead and.	01:54:22
	Address this, there's there's other models out here. I personally thought the Ventura model was one I liked the best, but.	01:54:25
	The devil's in the details, you can figure that out, but.	01:54:31
	I think this would give an opportunity to collect some money. The city can use some money.	01:54:34
	I've spent.	01:54:39
	Many nights in short term vacation rentals.	01:54:41
	They're great.	01:54:44
	Intend to continue to do this.	01:54:46
	The problem is that, as in most in life, 2% of the population create 90% of the problems.	01:54:48
	And so when you get a bad owner or.	01:54:54
	They happen to.	01:54:58
	Think they're renting to grandma and grandpa and actually it's the whole graduating class at Cal Lutheran or something then.	01:55:00
	You know, we have some issues, so it really encourage it to.	01:55:06
	Useful common sense.	01:55:11
	Give us some money for the city.	01:55:14
	The last issue I think is that at least homeowners can put in the associations you can put some pressure on.	01:55:15
	On people, but if you are outside the coastal zone.	01:55:22
	And.	01:55:26
	Basically, they're living next door to a place that's doing this all the time.	01:55:27
	Right now, you're out of luck.	01:55:30
	You know, the police are not going to keep showing up and.	01:55:32
	So if you can.	01:55:35
	Established murals with some teeth that basically say.	01:55:37
	If you're a bad actor, you'll lose your.	01:55:40
	Ability to do this.	01:55:42
	I think that'd be a great idea, so.	01:55:44
	Thank you for your time.	01:55:46
	Thank you.	01:55:48
	And there are some written public comments. Please bear with me.	01:55:50
	I frequently stay in Airbnb's and I'm very careful to make sure that I don't cause problems for neighbors because usually I have	01:55:54
	to pay a deposit which will only be returned to me if I am a considerate renter.	01:56:00
	The city is in a much better position to hold owners accountable for the behavior of renters.	01:56:06
	HOA's are required by the Davis Sterling Act to warn owners and allow time to remedy.	01:56:11
	Even then, if the HOA finds an owner, they have a right to appeal in the time and paperwork is a burden to the HOA.	01:56:17
	And a little deterrent to careless owner.	01:56:24
	Owners who do short term rentals have monetized our community.	01:56:26
	The extract high nightly rents.	01:56:30
	And their guests can extract a huge toll on our communities.	01:56:33
	There is an Airbnb below me, 80% of the time there is no problem, but without a city ordinance we have no recourse when there is a	01:56:37
	problem.	01:56:41
	One time 8 college students rented A2 bedroom unit below me. They took turns locking each other out with resulted which resulted	01:56:46
	in a lot of yelling and banging on doors.	01:56:50
	Then at 2:00 in the morning when the bars closed, more yelling and banging.	01:56:55
	Another time, someone rented a unit and then invited 30 people to party at our clubhouse.	01:56:59
	Children with huge squirt guns were left unattended in the pool and drenched our pool table.	01:57:05
	The STR owners made money and the other residents had to put up with the sleepless nights and destruction of communal property.	01:57:10
	But I find the dread I feel every time someone arrives to be the worst.	01:57:17
	I have no way to solve the problem.	01:57:21
	Call the police, some have a device. I was told the police do not respond to noise complaints on private property.	01:57:24
	As a taxpayer, I wouldn't want the police to spend time talking to drunk 20 somethings at 2:00 in the morning.	01:57:30
	Call the owner. I don't have their number.	01:57:36
	The ordinance is passed by other coastal communities solve this problem by requiring that owners register with the city and post	01:57:38
	the 24/7 number to call if there is a problem.	01:57:43
	Also, neighbors can file a complaint with the city, and the city can issue a citation with far less bureaucracy than HOA's.	01:57:48
	If an owner tries to do short term rentals without registering with the city, I would not have problem reporting them to city	01:57:55
	enforcement.	01:57:59
	They are profiting from our community and need to pay for some of the expense.	01:58:02
	I appreciate the role the City Council plays in keeping Port winding me. A wonderful place to live.	01:58:07
	I hope you will move forward to protect our community, just as Ventura and Oxnard have done.	01:58:12
	And that is from Paige Le Pen.	01:58:16
	Hello, I am writing to encourage the creation of an ordinance for the city of Port Hueneme similar to the one adopted by Oxnard to	01:58:20
	limit institutional investors and set a cap so we don't have the same problems experience.	01:58:26
	By other coastal.	01:58:33
	Any restricted short term rentals can utterly destroy a community. Thank you and that's Pat Berberich.	01:58:34
	Dear Council members, I would like to lend my support to the consideration of adopting an ordinance to regulate the proliferation	01:58:43
	of short term rentals.	01:58:47
	I think is it important to maintain the residential nature of Port Wine EMI and the unchecked conversion of homes to short term	01:58:51
	rentals.	01:58:55
	Has proven in other communities that investors who are focused primarily on profit can destroy a community.	01:58:58
	And Alley Times article by Jack Fleming on 9/25/24 details the effects of short term rentals on Cayucos near Morro Bay.	01:59:04
	Cayucos used to have a year round population, but the rapid purchase of homes by investors has decreased.	01:59:13
	The year round population so that some of the businesses have failed.	01:59:19
	A similar article in the Malibu magazine identified the same trends with a little more data.	01:59:24
	Based on the 2020 census, the population of Malibu had declined from 12,645 residents.	01:59:29
	To 10,654.	01:59:36
	The difference was the number of short term rentals.	01:59:39
	As more families move out and more LLC's move in, some residents feel like Malibu has lost the feeling of being a community.	01:59:41
	One resident said he is less likely to run into a neighbor than a property manager.	01:59:49
	Or a bleary eye teenager looking for an Airbnb that regularly hosts parties.	01:59:53
	Malibu City Council member Steve Urine says the repercussions go beyond community ties.	01:59:59
	A shrinking population of residents could have a huge impact on the city's economic future.	02:00:04
	From shuttering businesses to cuts in government funding.	02:00:09
	I hope that the city adopts an ordinance that puts a cap on the number of short term rentals and also restricts institutional	02:00:13
	investors.	02:00:16
	The Oxnard ordinance, which was approved by the Coastal Commission.	02:00:20
	As rules which not only cap the percentage of total residences that can be short term rentals.	02:00:24
	But also does not allow for REITs or other speculators to purchase residential homes.	02:00:29
	Thank you, Cynthia.	02:00:35
	And that concludes public comment.	02:00:37
	Thank you, Madam Clerk.	02:00:39
	So we have before us.	02:00:41
	A recommendation to receive this report on short term rental regulations.	02:00:43
	And provide staff with direction.	02:00:48
	May I have a first?	02:00:51
	Motion and a second.	02:00:53
	Motion to move forward with additional community engagement.	02:00:55
	Because.	02:01:00
	At this time I do not have enough information.	02:01:01
	Yes. So let's let's do the motion and then we.	02:01:04
	We've decided to.	02:01:08
	Accept it and then we're going to go to discussion.	02:01:10
	Right, so we have a 1st and.	02:01:13
	2nd.	02:01:17
	Now let's move to discussion.	02:01:18
	So yes. So I don't have enough information to make a.	02:01:20
	Decision on how we should regulate I would like to hear more from.	02:01:23
	The community and also the real estate community as well because they have a.	02:01:27
	They have a part in this is.	02:01:32
	You know, they're one of our shareholders in the community.	02:01:34
	I think that's how we go through with everything and we should just keep that trend.	02:01:38
	As more community engagement.	02:01:42
	I think what I heard.	02:01:44
	Woman Perez says that we want a comprehensive regulation.	02:01:46
	And we wanted.	02:01:50
	Get to that point by having some strong community engagement.	02:01:52
	I can support the recommendation for community engagement, but my I'm really leaning toward moderate regulation.	02:02:00
	For the purpose of building a foundational.	02:02:09
	Ordinance that can be perhaps modified.	02:02:12
	And updated later on has.	02:02:15
	Has our environment and our demographics change?	02:02:18
	What I I envision is that.	02:02:23
	Our city is going to become more attractive in the coming years.	02:02:26
	It's going to become more attractive because what we're doing with our beaches.	02:02:31
	How clean we keep them the swing set for instance.	02:02:35
	What we're doing with Bubbling Springs Park, this is going to become a desirable place to come and vacation.	02:02:39
	So while it might not be.	02:02:45
	The idea of Airbnb is right now might not be a rise to the level of being.	02:02:48
	An issue.	02:02:53
	I think that.	02:02:56
	Thinking of thinking ahead and planning ahead and being proactive.	02:02:58
	Would be a good measure for us to take.	02:03:03
	In terms of what we are hearing or what I'm hearing from residents is.	02:03:07
	They're concerned about corporate investors.	02:03:12
	They're concerned about nuisance problems.	02:03:14
	Parking.	02:03:17
	No point of contact if there's noise complaints.	02:03:19
	And then for us as a city.	02:03:22
	You know, where are we losing out on the transit occupancy tax ability if we.	02:03:24
	Are looking at other sources of revenue.	02:03:29
	We need to look at that transit occupancy tax and see how we can better capitalize on that has a source of revenue.	02:03:34
	So I would like to see us move toward at least a moderate regulation.	02:03:43
	Perhaps if the Council feels that we need more information.	02:03:48
	Umm, you know, I've been working with Paige a little bit. I've read through some of her materials, so I might be a.	02:03:52
	A little further ahead in this issue than.	02:03:58
	Some of the other council members, but.	02:04:01
	Yeah, let's do the community engagement, but I'd like us to see.	02:04:02
	US move toward at least at a minimum.	02:04:07
	Moderate regulation.	02:04:09
	Thank you.	02:04:12
	Yes, so.	02:04:13
	Reading.	02:04:15
	These regulations, these regulatory options that I think.	02:04:19
	All options are on the table right now.	02:04:22
	Of course.	02:04:25
	We're going to have some action.	02:04:26
	It's either going to be moderate, comprehensive and it's going to be up to the staff to come back.	02:04:28
	And brief us on on.	02:04:33
	What the community?	02:04:35
	Actually wants.	02:04:37
	And what's beneficial to to the city and.	02:04:40
	Without, umm.	02:04:43
	You know, inflicting too much pain on our budget as well.	02:04:44
	But.	02:04:47
	Definitely some something has to happen and.	02:04:48
	I think the moderate, comprehensive community engagement is all on the table.	02:04:52
	It's up to staff to come out with.	02:04:56
	You know, with with the community, come back with something that we can.	02:04:58
	We can speak to here in the dais to come up with what we need for our city.	02:05:03
	That's all great. Thank you.	02:05:09
	Go.	02:05:12
	So along those lines.	02:05:13
	Mr. City Manager, how do you feel about?	02:05:16
	Coming back to us with, here's a moderate approach and then here's a comprehensive approach and then perhaps we could.	02:05:18
	Walk through the strengths and weaknesses of each approach and and and also try to.	02:05:25
	Frame it in the terms of, you know, what's our?	02:05:30
	Best long term interest?	02:05:33
	I think.	02:05:34
	That that's probably where we're going to end up, I think.	02:05:36
	The reason why we suggested starting with the community engagement.	02:05:38
	1st is really hearing what the specific concerns are and then crafting.	02:05:42
	Something related to that?	02:05:48
	That's going to be a process we'll come back to council like when as we do a workshop and we get feedback, so there's still going	02:05:50
	to be plenty of time to figure out.	02:05:54
	How strict? Or you know, how moderate? How comprehensive? How?	02:05:58
	How focused to make something so I think the direction.	02:06:02
	Now to just start with the community engagement.	02:06:06
	Let's just start figuring out exactly what.	02:06:10
	What we want to recommend?	02:06:13
	One more thing, you just.	02:06:16
	Triggered something on me so.	02:06:18
	Moderate regulation I see good neighbor and cool.	02:06:20
	Quotes O.	02:06:24
	You know, is that meaning we're just going to rely on the good neighbor approach?	02:06:26
	Versus a more.	02:06:30
	Organized.	02:06:33
	Ordinance approach. So the good neighbor requirements are it's just a term for.	02:06:36
	The requirements that focus on the issues like noise.	02:06:43
	How many people are allowed in each unit of those types of things? Those are called good neighbor requirements because they're	02:06:49
	essentially the things that you would just expect a good neighbor to to be aware of.	02:06:54
	But.	02:07:00
	Cities end up adopting those into ordinance to make sure they're enforceable, so.	02:07:01
	So that that doesn't necessarily specify how that's going to be enforced, it's just.	02:07:06
	All those quality of life issues are the good neighbor required.	02:07:12
	Councilman Hernandez.	02:07:17
	Yeah, just one more comment on.	02:07:20
	Why HOA?	02:07:22
	Aren't carrying the torch on on this issues?	02:07:24
	It's because.	02:07:28
	The Coastal Commission will.	02:07:29
	Accept information or appeals.	02:07:30
	Essentially they they they want to hear from a city, which makes sense.	02:07:34
	Because then we get we can achieve that consistency that Jan was talking about.	02:07:38
	If each HOA were allowed to go to the Commission for their permits.	02:07:43
	We would see a variety of different.	02:07:48
	Models standing up throughout the city and that would be, I think even be.	02:07:51
	Harder for us to regulate and get our hands around so.	02:07:55
	The rules are that it has to be a city that goes before.	02:07:58
	The Coastal Commission.	02:08:02
	Great. Thank you. And I just want to add my two cents. Yeah, so I agree.	02:08:04
	I agree the answer is not no action.	02:08:08
	And also that it's important to have the.	02:08:11
	Our community engagement.	02:08:14
	However, umm.	02:08:16
	I think that.	02:08:18
	Again, no, action is not, should not be a decision.	02:08:20
	And I I'm in line with the moderate regulation and moving to the comprehensive. So let me just ask you.	02:08:24
	Umm. So let's say we say a star.	02:08:32
	Point is the moderate.	02:08:34
	What?	02:08:38
	What might prohibit us from moving quickly to the moderate?	02:08:39
	Is there anything or could we then move to?	02:08:43
	I'm sorry, the comprehensive, moderate to comprehensive, it's really.	02:08:46
	Or let me just say that's possible. Or should we start where we want to be?	02:08:50
	Yeah, I think.	02:08:55
	It's the city always has the ability. Anything we adopt by ordinance, we can always go back and modify. There's really 2	02:08:57
	challenges, one bigger than the other. One is just that.	02:09:02
	Drafting ordinances and adopting them and going through the public hearing process takes time and money, but you know, it's just,	02:09:07
	it's something cities do.	02:09:12
	But the second one that was the focus of the presentation is that.	02:09:17
	It would have to go through that Coastal Commission review again. So if we adopted a moderate regulation, went through that	02:09:21
	process, that process takes a decent amount of time and resources.	02:09:26
	And then we go, this isn't working. We want to go further than this. Then we'd have to go through that process all over again.	02:09:32
	So that's the challenge, but that's where I think starting with the community engagement and hearing what are the key issues we	02:09:39
	need to address and then.	02:09:43
	Bringing that back to Council and then.	02:09:48
	Focusing on those issues.	02:09:50
	I think.	02:09:52
	Will will be a good start.	02:09:53
	Where you know if we if we address those key issues?	02:09:57
	There might be more.	02:10:00
	To do later down the road, but I think that would get us.	02:10:01
	Whereas that's why.	02:10:04
	That's why we aren't.	02:10:06
	We didn't suggest just going straight to crafting an ordinance because I think if we crafted an ordinance today, we could come	02:10:07
	back and everybody could say that's not that doesn't address any of the issues we wanted.	02:10:12
	Any other question?	02:10:18
	Just a quick question. This Coastal Commission required that we start with a community engagement process, a formal one, because I	02:10:20
	feel like we've.	02:10:24
	We've talked about this a couple of Times Now in councils.	02:10:29
	I don't think it's a.	02:10:33
	Specific requirement.	02:10:36
	But well, so we would have to go through a public hearing process.	02:10:38
	To adopt an ordinance to then send it but.	02:10:43
	But I don't think that they require any specific.	02:10:45
	Engagement on top of that.	02:10:49
	So this sounds like.	02:10:52
	This is going to take a long time.	02:10:54
	So I mean, are we gonna drop a date for a workshop?	02:10:57
	I would estimate.	02:11:03
	That we're probably going to do.	02:11:04
	Let's say we do a workshop and a survey.	02:11:08
	I would estimate that process would probably take three to four months and then we'd come back to council.	02:11:11
	And then at that time.	02:11:16
	We'd have to then draft an ordinance and that takes some time and then we have to go through public hearing, which takes.	02:11:18
	You know, 2 meetings and 30 days to adopt SO.	02:11:25
	I do think.	02:11:28
	Even if we were to really fast track it, it would take some time, but I would estimate, you know, probably 4-4 to five months in	02:11:30
	that range.	02:11:34
	And I think.	02:11:40
	Do you want to add something? I was just going to say that in addition to the time that it takes for the city to draft and adopt	02:11:43
	its own ordinance.	02:11:46
	On top of that time.	02:11:50
	We have the Coastal Commission that we have to deal with, so it's not a rapid process.	02:11:51
	And the Coastal Commission time.	02:11:57
	Adds on to that.	02:11:59
	But what I would note is even if we fast track something, let's say we just took Venturas and said let's just adopt this and.	02:12:01
	You know, that'll get us by for a while.	02:12:08
	That would still take.	02:12:10
	A couple months to go through the.	02:12:12
	Public hearing the adoption process, it would still take a couple months to go through Coastal.	02:12:13
	So it's really.	02:12:18
	It's going to take three or four months regardless, so in my opinion, better to do it right than to just try to shave a couple.	02:12:21
	You know, a month off of that process. So do you think that we should have an amnesty for?	02:12:28
	For, you know, go out and say hey.	02:12:34
	Um you need to report your Airbnb. Like come out with the permitting.	02:12:38
	Process.	02:12:44
	To see what our real numbers are.	02:12:45
	I think.	02:12:50
	That throughout this process.	02:12:52
	What we can do is.	02:12:56
	Include some education on it, on reminding people that if they are running one of these that they should be.	02:12:57
	Reporting their.	02:13:03
	Hotel tax and and getting and make sure they have a business license and I think we will.	02:13:05
	Get some of those people to do that, yeah.	02:13:09
	So I got.	02:13:13
	So my my recollection is there's 36 HOA's in the city of Port Hueneme, which is sounds like a really big number and it is.	02:13:15
	So.	02:13:23
	On the community engagement front, I would like to see that we aggressively.	02:13:25
	Contact each.	02:13:32
	Property management company, not necessarily the HOA president, no offense.	02:13:34
	But.	02:13:40
	Because maybe the property management company would be better suited to to get.	02:13:41
	The responses that we want, I don't know a survey or just some kind of notification, so.	02:13:46
	At the end of the process.	02:13:51
	That we're able to say.	02:13:53
	HOA, whatever.	02:13:55
	We sent you 2 notices and you failed to respond.	02:13:57
	I just think it's really important because the number of HOA's that we have in our community.	02:14:00
	To really.	02:14:06
	Go go after each one of them.	02:14:07
	Two times maybe, but just really try to get them to the table because I just feel like.	02:14:10
	Once it gets approved or once we finally get back with an ordinance and someone's not going to like it and then.	02:14:17
	Yeah, and I think that is 1.	02:14:22
	Thing to just be aware of is I think at this point, because we don't have any regulations we haven't heard from.	02:14:26
	Any people who operate these? And so as we start talking about regulations, you will hear that.	02:14:31
	Other side of it of, you know, there's people who make their living.	02:14:37
	Doing short term rentals and.	02:14:40
	Typically when we start having these conversations, you'll hear from both.	02:14:44
	Both sides of the spectrum and everybody in between. So.	02:14:47
	So when we do our community engagement, we'll try to make sure that we get it out to.	02:14:50
	Sort of all sides of it.	02:14:55
	Any other?	02:15:00
	No, I was just.	02:15:03
	Yeah.	02:15:04
	Yeah, let's vote, but I wanted to ask our city manager if our current motion.	02:15:05
	2nd reflects what we have talked about or do you have it?	02:15:11
	I understood the motion was to move forward with community engagement, which is.	02:15:16
	Right in line with what I think we want and need to do so.	02:15:21
	I think.	02:15:27
	We should just confirm that and and vote, but that motion works.	02:15:28
	OK, OK. Yeah, I just wanted to know for the record, it's the.	02:15:33
	A motion to receive the report on short term rental regulations and to move forward with additional community engagement.	02:15:39
	Yes.	02:15:46
	OK, great.	02:15:48
	All in favor.	02:15:50
	Aye, all opposed.	02:15:51
	Hearing none, motion passes unanimously.	02:15:53
	Thank you.	02:15:56
	We'll now move on to #12 request for use of city resources in support of REACH nonprofits programs and activities.	02:15:57
	Will staff please present the report?	02:16:04
	Yes, and.	02:16:09
	Our deputy city manager, Charles Parrots, will be providing that.	02:16:11
	Because I'm tired after the short term.	02:16:18
	Good evening once again, members of Council, fellow staff, members of the public.	02:16:23
	Item number 12.	02:16:28
	Pertains to two items pertaining to REACH so incorporated as recreation, education, activities and culture in Winimi REACH	02:16:31
	operates.	02:16:35
	As a 501C3 entity independent of the city.	02:16:40
	At the November 4th, 2024 meeting, the Council approved.	02:16:45
	An action to eliminate.	02:16:49
	The council appointed position on the REACH Board.	02:16:51
	Further underscoring reaches separation from the city and operation as an independent body.	02:16:54
	At the December 2nd, 2024 meeting, then Councilmember Martinez made two reach related.	02:16:59
	Motions, both of which were unanimously approved by the City Council.	02:17:05
	The first was to have a future agenda item to consider. Reaches request to utilize the Miranda Park storage area.	02:17:09
	And the second was to allow the council to consider reaches proposed utility box beautification project.	02:17:16
	And to use staff resources to support that project.	02:17:22
	Both of these items.	02:17:26
	Both of these items request the use of staff resources and therefore require Council consideration and approval.	02:17:28
	With regard to the storage area at Miranda Park, Reach has expressed interest in using 1/2 of the area to store event related	02:17:36
	materials including tables, chairs.	02:17:40
	And other supplies that would be used to support community programs.	02:17:45
	Their intention is to use the space year round to accommodate ongoing community engagement initiatives like pickleball	02:17:48
	tournaments.	02:17:52
	City beautification projects and other events that are in line with Reaches Mission.	02:17:55
	If council approves the recommendation, the city manager would execute the draft agreement that's included in the staff report.	02:18:00
	With regard to the utility Utility box beautification project.	02:18:07
	Reach has indicated a desire to enhance the aesthetics.	02:18:11
	Of city utility boxes and has asked for staff resources that would assist.	02:18:14
	Staff is recommending that the council consider the use of no more than 25 hours of staff time.	02:18:19
	That would help with the identification of the location and ownership of the boxes.	02:18:25
	Coordination with any utility companies that are owned the boxes.	02:18:29
	The issuance of city permits that may be required for the project.	02:18:33
	Assist with public awareness about the program.	02:18:36
	And work with REACH to identify maintenance responsibilities.	02:18:39
	With any increased maintenance costs being assumed by Reach.	02:18:42
	Staff doesn't have a written proposal or.	02:18:46
	Additional detailed information about the project.	02:18:49
	But REACH representatives are present should Council have specific questions about the project.	02:18:52
	Can I add just one thing? I'm sorry.	02:19:00
	So.	02:19:03
	Utility box project.	02:19:05
	It's sort of being presented as the proposal.	02:19:07
	From reach to.	02:19:10
	To kind of.	02:19:13
	Run with the project, but with some staff support.	02:19:15
	Identifying the.	02:19:19
	Boxes that you know that can be used and and which ones are owned by which agencies and those types of things.	02:19:21
	Because it's that.	02:19:29
	Structured that way.	02:19:31
	It doesn't have.	02:19:33
	Built into that process.	02:19:35
	Sort of the typical.	02:19:37
	Process which would be like the.	02:19:39
	Like a site map coming back to the council or?	02:19:42
	Renderings coming back to the Council as an example, it's sort of proposed to be really like a reach project.	02:19:46
	But that is something that the Council.	02:19:52
	We want to make sure the Council understands that because.	02:19:56
	That is something that the Council has the ability to say. We would like to see, you know, a site map or.	02:20:00
	Renderings.	02:20:06
	Or essentially, you know, the council could say it's a reach project.	02:20:07
	We do or do not want to be involved to that level, so.	02:20:13
	I just wanted to highlight that because that is sort of.	02:20:17
	Pending question, if that project is to move forward, is what level of involvement the Council wants.	02:20:20
	Councilmember Gama.	02:20:28
	How many boxes are we talking about and do these?	02:20:30
	Include Edison boxes and I think I've noticed in surrounding cities that.	02:20:34
	Sometimes.	02:20:41
	Boxes aligned to different organizations within the city so.	02:20:44
	I would just ask that we get a site map and then.	02:20:49
	At some point get a.	02:20:53
	A description of.	02:20:56
	What?	02:20:59
	What the?	02:21:00
	Genre, if you will.	02:21:05
	Like are we going to go with coastal art or are we going to go with?	02:21:06
	You know, umm.	02:21:10
	Pickleball. Art. I mean, what? What are we? What are we?	02:21:11
	What are we going to get out of this project? So I would just like to.	02:21:15
	Sitemap renderings and then.	02:21:18
	Go for it.	02:21:22
	Mayor, are we doing questions only at this time?	02:21:23
	And so to answer the.	02:21:26
	First question, well my suggestion would be.	02:21:29
	I know we have representatives from reach here so.	02:21:31
	My suggestion would be.	02:21:35
	Initially to direct the questions to.	02:21:37
	The representatives of.	02:21:39
	Reach umm.	02:21:40
	My question was how many boxes are we talking? How many boxes and then which?	02:21:42
	Are they city owned utility boxes or?	02:21:47
	All utility.	02:21:50
	Company boxes, yes, you can come up. I did have a question for you.	02:21:53
	City Manager.	02:21:57
	So see 25 hours.	02:21:58
	So what happens?	02:22:02
	When we get to 25 hours.	02:22:05
	And we haven't.	02:22:08
	Provided the information that's needed for, then reach to go out and do.	02:22:10
	Something. Mm-hmm.	02:22:14
	So is there is that a concern at all?	02:22:15
	Or, or do we think we'll be able to provide in 25 hours what we need to provide them for them to be able to go forward and do the	02:22:18
	work? We attempted to estimate and then I think we estimated 20 and we added five just in case.	02:22:27
	So that's our best estimate, but it is intended to right now function as sort of a cap so that it's not just open-ended. If we get	02:22:36
	to the point where at 25 and it's clear that it's there, it's going to be another chunk of.	02:22:42
	Staff time or resources?	02:22:48
	Right now, the way we would.	02:22:50
	We would proceed as we would.	02:22:53
	Return to council and say OK, this project is you know.	02:22:55
	At this point and it's going to take an additional 20 hours of staff time, you know, so.	02:22:59
	So we would use this.	02:23:04
	Really like a cap at this point of.	02:23:06
	This is what the council's preauthorized and if we are going to go over that, then we need to go back to the council, right? So,	02:23:09
	and I'm asking the question because we've had a conversation about reach and being a nonprofit.	02:23:14
	And how, how much the city is going to support.	02:23:20
	And so we've had that conversation. So I just want to make sure that we.	02:23:23
	Are still continuing to have that conversation and it doesn't turn into.	02:23:26
	Yes, now.	02:23:31
	Yeah, it's the challenge.	02:23:32
	In a nutshell, you know the city supported Reach and it was sort of one in the same for a long time. And recently we as a city and	02:23:35
	Reach, Reach requested that it become its own entity.	02:23:41
	We recommend it as staff and the council approved that that would be better for all, as if they were truly too independent	02:23:48
	entities.	02:23:52
	So this is.	02:23:56
	Sort of the growing pains of that of, OK, so now that we've separated, realizing things that the city had done previously, that	02:23:59
	really can't just be.	02:24:04
	Assumed anymore.	02:24:08
	And trying to give it some structure. So the idea with this was not to take reach like back as a city entity, but to say you know.	02:24:10
	Essentially, with the Council support this project and in doing so.	02:24:19
	You know, commit.	02:24:22
	These resources, but no more than those resources. I think a follow up conversation was.	02:24:23
	OK, if any nonprofit came in and asked for support.	02:24:29
	Would we approve that?	02:24:34
	Right. So, yeah.	02:24:37
	Yeah, I have a question.	02:24:38
	Councilmember.	02:24:40
	So I'm assuming this is going to be an art project. Are you going to be engaging the community, asking for volunteers? Is this	02:24:42
	going to be a fundraiser? How are you seeing the art project?	02:24:47
	OK, yes. And just for clarification.	02:24:53
	I just want to say.	02:24:57
	Good evening, Mayor McQueen, Le John and Mayor Pro Tem Lopez.	02:24:58
	City Council's, city staff and members of the public. My name is Bobby Martinez.	02:25:04
	I am the Vice President of REACH and with my colleague Tom Fiala, the Treasurer, we are representing REACH.	02:25:09
	This is a 2 part.	02:25:18
	Request. But to answer Councilmember Perez's question, we are.	02:25:19
	Going to be looking to work with other organizations including the Winnemi Elementary School District and really anybody that	02:25:25
	wants to join in on this.	02:25:29
	Beautification project of our city.	02:25:35
	We've had the vision of.	02:25:37
	Beautifying the city by painting the electrical boxes.	02:25:39
	And.	02:25:43
	We don't necessarily have all the themes.	02:25:44
	But I think it be things that everybody would.	02:25:47
	Would agree on that would.	02:25:50
	Represent our city, a little bit of a history.	02:25:52
	The beach.	02:25:55
	The military presence in the city.	02:25:56
	But we're really just asking for.	02:26:00
	Permission to get started with the project. I'm not sure if that answers your question or if you were looking for a couple more	02:26:02
	specifics, but we don't.	02:26:05
	We don't have all necessarily all the specifics until.	02:26:09
	This request gets approved.	02:26:12
	OK, no, I was just curious to see if that was what you had in mind, but.	02:26:16
	We do have the idea of including the youth in the community.	02:26:19
	That's also going to depend on the artist.	02:26:24
	And they get the the projects but.	02:26:27
	Our plan is to fund the.	02:26:30
	The art and painting of the electrical boxes.	02:26:32
	OK. Thank you.	02:26:36
	So yeah, I have a question. So Art.	02:26:37
	Are you going to bring the design to the Council before?	02:26:40
	Moving forward with.	02:26:43
	Painting so.	02:26:45
	As with our.	02:26:47
	Mural at the library.	02:26:49
	We saw that.	02:26:52
	You know, there was a lot of back and forth.	02:26:53
	I don't, I don't think our plan is to keep bringing back. Is this what council approves?	02:26:55
	As a matter of fact, we want.	02:27:00
	Allow the artists to.	02:27:02
	Get creative and.	02:27:04
	And basically.	02:27:06
	You know, make some beautiful art. But we do have some topics in mind like I mentioned.	02:27:08
	Military.	02:27:14
	The Chumash.	02:27:17
	The beach.	02:27:19
	Nature.	02:27:21
	And I guess any other topics that you you would also seem as appropriate for this project?	02:27:22
	I think those are. That's it, I mean.	02:27:29
	That's our city, military beach island.	02:27:31
	Port.	02:27:35
	Port, I mean ships.	02:27:35
	But again, back to the.	02:27:38
	I get confused like because we don't.	02:27:41
	Own the electric.	02:27:44
	Transform green boxes, correct?	02:27:47
	That's not our.	02:27:50
	Stuff.	02:27:51
	There are boxes and I think I can actually answer so the boxes fall under three different categories.	02:27:52
	They're either owned by Edison. They're all put in by Edison, by the way, and they're all maintained by Edison.	02:27:59
	It who is the one that's going to pay for the maintenance of it?	02:28:04
	So it either falls under Edison.	02:28:09
	It falls under the city or it's privately owned. For instance if you go outside of adding cappuccino.	02:28:11
	There's a box right there. It's actually owned by the owner of that complex, so.	02:28:17
	If damage were to happen, obviously Edison would come and pick it would fix it, but he has to pay Edison for the maintenance of	02:28:22
	it.	02:28:26
	So what we're just concentrating on right now is the ones that are owned by the city and that's what we don't know right yet.	02:28:30
	That's what, that's the 25 hours. That's part of the 25 hours.	02:28:37
	That we're looking to identify which ones are owned by the specifics specifically.	02:28:41
	In in reference to what Bobby was saying about the the the the the topics.	02:28:46
	Of each.	02:28:52
	Mural umm.	02:28:53
	Like the VFW is actually going to fund two of them.	02:28:54
	So it's not necessarily going to be just funded by.	02:28:58
	Reach There are other organizations within.	02:29:01
	The community that are actually going to pay for that, like the VFW is going to do the two.	02:29:05
	There's one on Ventura in Pleasant Valley, and there's one at Sun Kissed in Pleasant Valley, OR.	02:29:10
	Sun Kissed and Ventura.	02:29:15
	The VFW is going to pay for that.	02:29:17
	Those owned by the city.	02:29:19
	Those two are because they're actually.	02:29:21
	They're actually not electrical boxes, they're.	02:29:24
	The the boxes that control the traffic lights.	02:29:26
	And they look the same, though they they all look crappy so.	02:29:31
	That's why we want to pay them.	02:29:35
	So again, I just think if we could get a map.	02:29:37
	We don't have that. All we know what we do know right now is the 8.	02:29:40
	Traffic light boxes, we know where those are.	02:29:46
	Charles gave that to us a while back.	02:29:49
	So we do have those, the electrical boxes, we actually don't have that list yet.	02:29:52
	So we don't know which ones are owned by Edison. So the idea is.	02:29:57
	Identify which ones are by the city.	02:30:00
	Go to Edison, identify which ones are by them.	02:30:02
	And what's leftover is privately owned.	02:30:05
	And we'll go to that individual owner.	02:30:08
	As it goes on, we only want to do about 5.	02:30:10
	4568 something like that.	02:30:13
	Just to get an idea.	02:30:17
	Because there's like, there's got to be 60 of them. So we don't want to blast them all at once. We kind of gotta want to get the	02:30:19
	community to come back and ask us.	02:30:23
	Or give their feedback.	02:30:27
	And like you, we had like we had said earlier, there would be beach theme along.	02:30:29
	Surfside.	02:30:34
	You know, and then schooled themed by the schools, the VFW and military themed.	02:30:36
	Along the base.	02:30:42
	And then?	02:30:44
	You know, we'll mix it up with other things.	02:30:46
	Now I'm going to sit down.	02:30:48
	Will they? Will they be wrapped?	02:30:49
	Like once you do the painting on them.	02:30:53
	Wrapped so that they're not. You don't really. We haven't got that far yet. Thank you.	02:30:55
	All we know is there's boxes that need to be painted. That's all we got.	02:30:59
	Question Mayor Pro Tem.	02:31:04
	I just have one last question, the storage.	02:31:05
	Facility.	02:31:09
	Umm what? What are you guys gonna use that for?	02:31:11
	Excuse me, the storage.	02:31:14
	In regards to the storage.	02:31:16
	When I first got on council I was using it for all the.	02:31:19
	Activities that I was doing in the city. So I ran about 24 different events in the city, basketball, soccer.	02:31:23
	We even did a baseball, volleyball, so we have some equipment and so that equipment was purchased.	02:31:30
	I believe by the by reach and.	02:31:37
	Some of it was provided by the city and.	02:31:40
	That's where we would want to store some of those items.	02:31:43
	Since.	02:31:47
	Reach has now become.	02:31:49
	A working committee.	02:31:52
	In the last six months we have done 2 pickleball tournaments.	02:31:54
	Fairly inexpensive compared to other pickleball tournaments and those.	02:31:58
	Have been used to provide some of the funds for this art, including also one of the other things that we would want to do.	02:32:02
	Is purchase the windscreens that have been damaged?	02:32:08
	Miranda Park for the pickleball.	02:32:12
	Courts. So we.	02:32:14
	As of right now, I know that there's space there and we would want to use that space to continue to store some of the items that	02:32:17
	Reach is using because we don't technically have a physical location we we were previously using.	02:32:23
	Using some of the city resources.	02:32:29
	And I think this would only make it easy for.	02:32:32
	Reach to continue to provide.	02:32:35
	Some of these citywide events.	02:32:37
	Including more pickleball tournaments and maybe basketball tournaments, which is something that we've been talking about, but.	02:32:40
	Yeah, both of these two items would would help fulfill our mission here on.	02:32:49
	Reach. So what's what's in the storage?	02:32:54
	Building besides.	02:32:58
	Reaches equipment.	02:33:00
	Like how are we going to segregate it?	02:33:03
	Yeah. So I believe most of the equipment in that specific.	02:33:05
	Room.	02:33:09
	Our closet if you want to call it it has a sporting equipment and I think some of its like old tennis equipment.	02:33:10
	Which I don't know who's using it.	02:33:17
	You know, but if we did.	02:33:20
	Get the authority to use this room, we would clean it out and use it for more supporting equipment. But as of right now I want to	02:33:22
	say half of it is.	02:33:26
	Mystery to me, but it's a lot of tennis.	02:33:31
	Tennis related equipment.	02:33:34
	And then the other half.	02:33:36
	Still actually has some of our equipment, including some soccer courts, pickleball paddles.	02:33:38
	Soccer balls.	02:33:45
	And baseball equipment.	02:33:47
	Mr. City Manager, Mr. Mayor, I have a question about the.	02:33:49
	This A few years ago we got a report.	02:33:52
	By our facilities director that this building was.	02:33:56
	Condemned.	02:33:59
	And the roof had to be replaced. We were not able to do anything with it.	02:34:00
	Has that since been changed?	02:34:04
	The roof has not been replaced.	02:34:07
	And needs to be replaced.	02:34:10
	But it's.	02:34:12
	It's not.	02:34:14
	Condemned. Yeah.	02:34:16
	In the in the in the legal sense.	02:34:17
	We, I think.	02:34:20
	Yeah, not meant for habitation, not meant for use. I think our thought is it's.	02:34:22
	Is. It's really not?	02:34:27
	Usable for like the uses we'd want to use it for, but for now, you know, it has a leaky roof, but it can be used to just store	02:34:29
	some equipment really. So just to clarify, it's not the entire building, it's just.	02:34:35
	I guess a closet in the back.	02:34:43
	In terms of dimensions, I don't have them off.	02:34:46
	Top of my head, but I'm trying to visualize them. Right now I would say it's anywhere between like.	02:34:48
	Six to maybe 15-6 by 815 feet.	02:34:53
	Maybe at most.	02:34:58
	So I'm gonna date myself.	02:34:59
	Going back like many years ago, we used to have HOA meetings in that.	02:35:01
	Facility umm.	02:35:05
	I think it's a great facility and I think as long as the engineering.	02:35:07
	Has been done and if it's safe, I think I think it'd be a great place.	02:35:11
	For reach.	02:35:16
	Have its headquarters.	02:35:18
	I mean, it really is. Well, it's it's Oh yeah, but maybe the whole building. But this is just the, it's a small storage room,	02:35:19
	right?	02:35:23
	But again, like I said, if it's.	02:35:27
	The building is not being used if it's.	02:35:30
	Determined to be safe to be used, then it could be a really good resource for reach and it's not being used right now.	02:35:32
	And then of course, you'd be doing your soccer tournaments, basketball tournaments. I think it sounds a great idea.	02:35:39
	I don't want to go too far into it, but.	02:35:45
	Since we're mentioning this, is this the?	02:35:47
	Building.	02:35:51
	That was talked about in the other.	02:35:53
	A meeting building at Miranda Park.	02:35:56
	What is that?	02:35:58
	In the recreation fees item.	02:36:00
	It was referenced as a reference point.	02:36:03
	For the new community room at Bubbling Springs, which is about half the size. So this is the building, but again, as Mr. Martinez	02:36:05
	indicated, we're not talking about use of the entire building, just the storage area.	02:36:11
	And answer Mayor Pro Tem's question before the majority of the equipment in there, as Mr. Martinez referenced is?	02:36:17
	Items that were purchased either directly by him or by reach for activities and programs that were run.	02:36:25
	Through volunteer programs or REACH programs at the park.	02:36:31
	There's a de minimis amount of city equipment in there.	02:36:33
	And it's not actively used by the city, so it's.	02:36:37
	Used by REACH would not adversely impact city operations.	02:36:40
	Great. I was just trying to make that connection if that's what you were talking about when you said that space.	02:36:44
	Yeah, that actually I was referring to the.	02:36:49
	When it was.	02:36:52
	Used as a rental space, that is it the building, not not the storage area.	02:36:54
	But the same building. So the storage area is just an offshoot of the meeting room. The meeting room, as we referenced before, is	02:36:59
	not appropriate for ongoing use at this time. Thank you. Answer my question, but that's the space.	02:37:04
	Yes, thank you.	02:37:10
	It's not appropriate for because. Why?	02:37:12
	I just as the city manager mentioned, it's not condemned, but there are roofing issues and work that would need to be done for	02:37:17
	ongoing.	02:37:21
	Rentals and active use of the Community Room.	02:37:24
	And roofs are expensive now. I would I my guess is, you know, maybe.	02:37:28
	Years ago maybe that was a $50,000 estimate. My guest now is 200 and.	02:37:34
	50,000 maybe?	02:37:39
	OK, great. Great. Any Madam Clerk, do we have any public comments? No public comments. Great. Thank you.	02:37:42
	May I just mentioned that we would be in, We would be if we get the approval for the.	02:37:49
	Beautifying the utility boxes.	02:37:55
	We would be responsible for paying for for the artists to come do the art.	02:37:58
	And just I just want to clear it, clarify that. Great. Thank you. Thank you.	02:38:02
	Do we? Do we have consensus for a site map?	02:38:08
	Or would we just?	02:38:12
	Yeah, go ahead.	02:38:16
	Yeah, it's my understanding there is a list.	02:38:18
	It's not mapped out, but there is a list. Would that be sufficient for you?	02:38:20
	To see a list.	02:38:27
	The city has a list.	02:38:28
	I think the challenge and like hearing the thought is.	02:38:30
	It's it could be other boxes that aren't on our list. And so I think that was what I heard because we gave the list of.	02:38:34
	Our boxes, but it could be other utility boxes.	02:38:42
	So I I do think.	02:38:45
	You know, not wanting to burden reach and not wanting to create a situation where, you know, we're doing multiple renderings of of	02:38:47
	things. I know we want to avoid that, but.	02:38:52
	I think.	02:38:57
	Maybe approving it with the requirement that a site map with the theme, like identifying which ones will be done with the theme	02:38:58
	would be maybe a good middle ground. That's good.	02:39:04
	So we have before us.	02:39:10
	To authorize the City manager to execute an agreement, allow and reach to utilize storage space at Miranda Park.	02:39:12
	And approve reaches proposed project to beautify.	02:39:19
	Utility boxes within the city boundaries supported.	02:39:23
	No more than 25 hours of staff time and waiving fees associated with.	02:39:27
	With applicable.	02:39:32
	City permits. May I have a motion in a second?	02:39:34
	So moved.	02:39:37
	Any further discussion?	02:39:40
	If not, Madam Clerk, can we please have a vote?	02:39:42
	All in favor.	02:39:45
	All opposed.	02:39:46
	Hearing none, motion passes unanimously.	02:39:48
	I just want to say thank you and if this is a successful project.	02:39:50
	Just know we have goals of continuing, continuing to beautify the city, maybe even the lifeguard towers.	02:39:54
	Or any other ideas that you may have?	02:40:00
	Great. Thank you. Thank you, Thank you.	02:40:02
	OK, we're going to move on to our city manager. Comments and reports.	02:40:05
	OK, just.	02:40:17
	Quickly, we only have a few things.	02:40:19
	Today we wanted to.	02:40:21
	Remind people to make their plans to visit Winnie Me Beach as we recently celebrated the.	02:40:23
	Reopening of our Winimi Beach swing set with their first ever accessible swing set on Winimi Beach.	02:40:29
	Unfortunately we planned it on the one day of rain so so we had our grand opening. It was a good turnout from our staff but.	02:40:37
	And maybe not. The public didn't think it was worth coming out in the rain. So.	02:40:46
	But we've seen people out there every day since, so I think people are getting seeing it and visiting so.	02:40:52
	That is open and people can check that out now.	02:41:00
	And start.	02:41:04
	Preparing for When Amy Beach Fest as well, which is scheduled to be held on July 12 to 13th.	02:41:07
	So we expect to.	02:41:13
	Have.	02:41:16
	A good event in another excuse for people to come and check out the beach in the swing set that weekend.	02:41:18
	We do.	02:41:25
	With the Beach Fest being in July, we are trying to get ahead on something so we will expect to launch our vendor applications.	02:41:27
	In the next couple of weeks.	02:41:35
	And so on our website and Facebook page, we'll be posting more information about those, but they should be coming soon.	02:41:37
	Another event at the beach and another excuse to come check out the beach is.	02:41:46
	Our March 22nd.	02:41:51
	Community Benefit fund.	02:41:54
	Partnership project with the port.	02:41:56
	See Splash Color 5K and Kids 1K with the free Health and Wellness Fair.	02:41:58
	We.	02:42:04
	Have.	02:42:06
	600 spots this year.	02:42:07
	Because we sold out so quickly last year.	02:42:11
	I think it's been open for about a week and I think we have a couple 100 people signed up. So we do think we're on pace to sell	02:42:13
	out so.	02:42:17
	Anybody who's interested may want to register sooner rather than later.	02:42:21
	But that event is on March 22nd. Registration is open now.	02:42:26
	And people can visit.	02:42:31
	Our website to get more information on signing up so.	02:42:34
	And it's a $20 registration for the 5K event and the Kids 1K is $10.	02:42:41
	And then?	02:42:48
	Last, for the March 3rd agenda, right now we are looking at.	02:42:50
	We have the following items currently scheduled.	02:42:56
	We have a presentation from Public Works regarding completion of the sewer, sewer main line repair, which we are finishing that.	02:42:59
	Major project.	02:43:07
	Now.	02:43:08
	We have on.	02:43:10
	Consent will have the second reading of the off leash.	02:43:13
	The dog park.	02:43:19
	Amendments that were introduced today.	02:43:21
	We also have the notice of completion for the westbound Chen Islands resurfacing project.	02:43:24
	We'll have a public hearing item related to electronic signatures for Fair Political Practices Commission forms.	02:43:28
	It's required, the council is required to adopt an ordinance to allow for electronic signatures on those forms.	02:43:36
	Really a housekeeping item, but it requires an ordinance in a public hearing.	02:43:43
	And then we have.	02:43:47
	Three business items planned.	02:43:48
	The strategic partnership discussion we talked about a couple meetings ago, we'll bring that back.	02:43:50
	The.	02:43:57
	Item 2.	02:44:00
	To designate the RDP representative.	02:44:02
	And the.	02:44:06
	DC trip talking points for the RDP DC trip.	02:44:08
	And then?	02:44:14
	We're bringing back the term limit discussion for Citizen Advisory Commission and Measure U.	02:44:16
	As well as the final appointments for those two committees.	02:44:21
	Right now, those are what we have scheduled for March 3rd.	02:44:25
	And.	02:44:30
	That's everything I have tonight.	02:44:31
	Great. Thank you. We'll go to the Council members for reporting.	02:44:36
	Thank you. I just have one report.	02:44:42
	On the SCAG meeting that I attended on the 6th, there was a really good overview.	02:44:45
	Of the State of Emergency Management in California.	02:44:50
	The disaster preparedness, the follow up How to take care of areas that were hit by disaster.	02:44:54
	What went wrong?	02:45:01
	What went right and how to improve efforts and a lot of good tips and information from a lot of different agencies and	02:45:03
	organizations.	02:45:08
	That's it.	02:45:13
	Thank you, Councilmember Gama.	02:45:14
	Have nothing to report for meetings, but I do have a comment to make.	02:45:16
	You know, a while ago we talked about the surfer mentality looking ahead and well, I appreciate the fact that we were able to get	02:45:20
	the dredge here this year.	02:45:25
	We're falling.	02:45:31
	Far short on what is needed to sustain Winimi Beach into the future, We just celebrated the opening of the.	02:45:33
	Swing set.	02:45:40
	And.	02:45:41
	The numbers as I look at them right now, we're projected to get 1,000,000 cubic yards of sand.	02:45:42
	Which is 1.4 million cubic yards short of what?	02:45:49
	Is needed to sustain Waeneme Beach and so.	02:45:54
	If we don't get any.	02:45:58
	Additional sand between now and two years from now.	02:46:00
	We're going to have a real problem, and that problem could be.	02:46:04
	Fire pits falling into the ocean. Swing set falling into the ocean.	02:46:08
	And you know.	02:46:13
	It's really frustrating because two years ago we celebrated.	02:46:16
	We got 2.5 million cubic yards of sand, which was the first time we ever exceeded.	02:46:20
	The goal?	02:46:25
	And then?	02:46:26
	I don't know what happened, but here we are.	02:46:28
	Following dramatically short and.	02:46:30
	We absolutely need to.	02:46:34
	Come up with a plan.	02:46:38
	To deal with this.	02:46:40
	If we just.	02:46:42
	Put our heads in the sand and.	02:46:43
	Look 2 years from now and expect.	02:46:45
	Everything to be.	02:46:47
	Great. We could be back in this situation that happened 10 years ago and I'm just.	02:46:48
	Really depressing so.	02:46:53
	Just wanted to make these comments to make sure all of us up here understand that no, this is this is really about sustainability.	02:46:55
	And we need to come up with a plan.	02:47:03
	And so I'll be making a request for a agenda item so that we could.	02:47:06
	Begin to figure out where we go from here.	02:47:10
	Get to.	02:47:14
	Ventura County Animal Services meeting this Thursday and the Beacon meetings coming up next Friday. So.	02:47:15
	Next meeting I'll be able to report those out.	02:47:22
	We're going to go back really quickly.	02:47:24
	To add to my comment, that video is recorded and available to the public if anybody is interested in hearing what was said during	02:47:26
	that meeting.	02:47:30
	Councilman Hernandez.	02:47:37
	Thank you, Mayor.	02:47:38
	I've attended a.	02:47:40
	A number of SCAG meetings in the last couple of weeks 1 was.	02:47:42
	Also to address emergency preparedness. I don't know if it's the same one where Lucy Jones spoke and.	02:47:46
	Different representatives from the.	02:47:52
	From LA area spoke about preparedness in other issues.	02:47:55
	So very good meeting and.	02:48:00
	Also learned of some new tools and technology that I've shared with the on traffic analysis which I've shared with the.	02:48:03
	City Manager.	02:48:09
	Umm, I've attended.	02:48:11
	At least three.	02:48:15
	Clean Power Alliance meetings since being appointed to the committee.	02:48:18
	One orientation, one actual board meeting.	02:48:22
	And then I met with some constituents on Monday, yesterday.	02:48:26
	And fortunately, I was able to get Joe Cabral to come along with us so he could sit and.	02:48:32
	Help answer questions from some of the members of Waeneme Bay WHO.	02:48:38
	Were wondering about their what their bill was going to look like, why we're doing this, the different tiers.	02:48:42
	I think it was quite helpful and it was for me a good train the trainer on how to talk to constituents about.	02:48:50
	This change over to.	02:48:56
	The Clean Power Alliance program.	02:48:58
	Other than that, I oh this morning I attended V Cog Executive committee.	02:49:01
	Meeting where we interviewed.	02:49:09
	Candidates for the.	02:49:12
	Executive Director position, so we're looking forward to hearing.	02:49:15
	The outcome of that in the next couple of weeks, who was selected?	02:49:20
	Umm, and I just wanted to also say thank you to Lupe Acero, who has moved on to BCTC.	02:49:25
	Umm, we didn't get a chance to say goodbye to her, but I just want to publicly thank her for her years of service here.	02:49:33
	And she will be greatly missed.	02:49:39
	Thank you.	02:49:41
	We're going to go back to council.	02:49:42
	Thank you, Mayor.	02:49:44
	So earlier tonight there was an Air Pollution Control Board committee meeting where they're going to be voting on new rules, which	02:49:45
	I couldn't attend because I was here.	02:49:50
	They want to increase their air pollution.	02:49:55
	Credit permitting.	02:49:58
	Fees.	02:50:00
	5% a year over the next three years.	02:50:02
	And I'm following up on the.	02:50:05
	Dredge situation.	02:50:09
	The conversation I had this morning with the staff over there was trying to understand the the.	02:50:12
	Air pollution credits.	02:50:18
	That we ran out of.	02:50:20
	Last read cycle and they shut us down for a month.	02:50:22
	I'm trying to understand how.	02:50:26
	This latest.	02:50:28
	Situation with the Army Corps engineers and the dredging process and the air pollution credits are they issued for.	02:50:30
	A. This period only and.	02:50:37
	What do we have to do to start?	02:50:41
	For example, let's say if we were able to get the dredge back in a year.	02:50:44
	Which we really need to.	02:50:48
	You know how, how do we go about?	02:50:50
	Ascertain the appropriate air pollution control credit. So it's really complicated and I wish I could understand it, but I don't.	02:50:52
	So I think.	02:51:01
	And it I think that's.	02:51:02
	Not like I said, we.	02:51:05
	We need to start these conversations now to understand how.	02:51:07
	This is going to be affected and.	02:51:10
	Intertwined together so.	02:51:13
	I attended 2 events. One was the Cal Cities veterans.	02:51:20
	Group best practices for all cities. Got a lot of good info on what?	02:51:24
	What kind of services?	02:51:30
	Other cities provide.	02:51:32
	And it was. There was a lot of.	02:51:35
	Good best practices. So I got this.	02:51:37
	Report, then I'm gonna.	02:51:40
	Consolidating some ideas that we could probably bring here with.	02:51:42
	Which really doesn't cost anything.	02:51:47
	And I'll share it with the city manager.	02:51:49
	That was the first time Cal Cities hosted that.	02:51:53
	I also attended the Ports Mou.	02:51:58
	Signing with New York Lines.	02:52:01
	Green corridor for autos.	02:52:03
	Just a pretty cool ceremony with.	02:52:06
	You know, they're the partnerships for that green corridor.	02:52:12
	For the port.	02:52:15
	And.	02:52:16
	Yeah, that was it.	02:52:17
	Great. Thank you.	02:52:21
	Couple of things.	02:52:23
	I was looking at the dates.	02:52:25
	Of the 5K and the beach festival and I think I'm unavailable for both of those states. I just want to.	02:52:27
	Preparing for the RDP DC trip.	02:52:35
	It's from the 23rd.	02:52:39
	To the 27th, but I'll be attending my very first.	02:52:41
	VCTC.	02:52:45
	Budget meeting on the 24th, so I'll be departing after that meeting.	02:52:47
	So I'll be gone the 24th through the 27th.	02:52:52
	I'm going to try to go to the Savvy Senior event, which is this Thursday.	02:52:55
	And so I got a couple of things on the calendar, but I'm going to try to sneak that in.	02:53:01
	Then just want to let you all know officially.	02:53:07
	I have been.	02:53:11
	Elected to.	02:53:13
	As the chair for a PCD.	02:53:15
	GCTD.	02:53:18
	And Vice Chair for VCTC.	02:53:20
	And then also.	02:53:24
	Participated in.	02:53:26
	My VR.	02:53:29
	Meetings this week so.	02:53:30
	Started back. They were out the month of January, so it looks like they're back and running.	02:53:32
	That's what I in the other thing.	02:53:39
	I think I'll.	02:53:42
	The other thing I want to.	02:53:44
	Let me hold it to the agenda for the agenda.	02:53:51
	So that's all I have, so we'll move.	02:53:54
	To the request for future agenda items.	02:53:56
	I'd like to remind the council members that all requests must get a motion and a second and a majority vote.	02:54:00
	Does anyone have?	02:54:07
	Councilmember.	02:54:09
	Yes, while I was out in winning eBay, I had some.	02:54:10
	Residents talking about.	02:54:15
	Improving the visibility of the.	02:54:17
	Street sign when they're coming up Channel Islands Blvd. especially at night they can't see it and they were asking if.	02:54:21
	Some reflective paint can be applied to it so that they could see it better.	02:54:26
	They understand that they can't.	02:54:31
	Have a light underneath it, but some way of making the sign more visible at night.	02:54:33
	I have questions but I guess.	02:54:41
	They this is.	02:54:43
	The future agenda item portion, so I guess I'll.	02:54:47
	The first question is whether the Council will put it on the agenda, but then after that's decided I'll have questions about	02:54:50
	exactly what they're looking for, so.	02:54:54
	A Lido or Lido sign.	02:54:59
	OK.	02:55:01
	Showing them where the street they it's not visible.	02:55:08
	Their sign not a city sign, correct?	02:55:10
	So it's street sign. It's a request for an item.	02:55:13
	I I guess.	02:55:18
	The part I'm struggling with.	02:55:19
	So it sounds like they have a permitting question really about if they can. They're wanting to know if the city can make the sign	02:55:21
	more visible.	02:55:25
	Their sign, the no, it's it's a street sign. It's a city street sign, OK.	02:55:29
	Yeah, OK.	02:55:35
	OK, All right, so.	02:55:36
	I don't know that we need an agenda item for that.	02:55:40
	So is that just a?	02:55:43
	Yeah, I think that's something Public Works could just look into. Yeah, OK.	02:55:44
	OK. Is there anything else?	02:55:51
	So like to place on the agenda.	02:55:54
	The dredge woes of 2025 and just to have a strategic meeting as to how we're going to address the shortfall.	02:55:58
	Is there any motion that that's a motion?	02:56:12
	I'll second.	02:56:16
	Madam Clerk.	02:56:18
	All in favor.	02:56:20
	Aye, all opposed.	02:56:21
	Hearing none, motion passes unanimously.	02:56:23
	Anything else?	02:56:26
	Mayor Pro Tem.	02:56:31
	I'm struggling again.	02:56:38
	So I would like to.	02:56:39
	Add an agenda item.	02:56:44
	That, uh.	02:56:49
	List some of the items that are former Councilmember.	02:56:52
	Martinez.	02:56:58
	Had brought to the Council.	02:57:00
	Like events that we actually did in the city.	02:57:03
	And I would like to talk about whether.	02:57:06
	We want to keep.	02:57:09
	Some of them.	02:57:11
	Or.	02:57:12
	Because he's not here.	02:57:14
	We don't do them anymore.	02:57:15
	When I talk through that.	02:57:17
	Because we had the.	02:57:18
	In Laquet.	02:57:21
	Reading.	02:57:23
	You know, we were having basketball.	02:57:25
	Adult basketball.	02:57:27
	So there were some things that we were doing under former Councilmember Martinez.	02:57:28
	That were good. That may have been good for the city and I don't know if we want to.	02:57:34
	Just lose them.	02:57:38
	So parks and recs thing.	02:57:42
	I'll second.	02:57:43
	You want to discuss, just want to discuss some of the things that we did that.	02:57:46
	A list of the items of events that were.	02:57:51
	Brought by Councilmember Martinez and then.	02:57:56
	To allow the Council to discuss.	02:57:59
	Which to continue and whether we want to continue or?	02:58:01
	9.	02:58:04
	All in favor.	02:58:07
	Aye, all opposed.	02:58:08
	Hearing none, motion passes unanimously.	02:58:10
	OK, great. Anything else?	02:58:13
	OK, if there's nothing else, the next regular meeting is scheduled for Monday, March 3rd at 6:30 PM.	02:58:17
	The meeting is now.	02:58:25
	Adjourned at 9:27.	02:58:27