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CITY COUNCIL CLOSED SESSION AGENDA / CLOSED SESSION ITEMS A. CONFERENCE WITH LEGAL COUNSEL – ANTICIPATED LITIGATION
RECESS TO CLOSED SESSION
CITY COUNCIL REGULAR MEETING AGENDA
CALL TO ORDER / FLAG SALUTE/ ROLL CALL
INSPIRATION
PUBLIC COMMENT
CLOSED SESSION REPORT
AGENDA APPROVAL FOR CITY COUNCIL
PRESENTATIONS Item No. 1. PRESENTATION FROM ALI REZA GHASEMI, AIR POLLUTION CONTROL OFFICER ON BEHALF OF THE VENTURA COUNTY AIR POLLUTION CONTROL DISTRICT
PRESENTATIONS Item No. 2. PRESENTATION FROM PUBLIC WORKS REGARDING THE COMPLETION OF THE SEWER MAIN LINE REPAIR PROJECT
CALL TO ORDER / ROLL CALL THE PORT HUENEME HOUSING AUTHORITY REGULAR MEETING
HOUSING AUTHORITY PUBLIC COMMENT
HOUSING AUTHORITY CONSENT CALENDAR
HOUSING AUTHORITY MEMBERS’ REPORTS, COMMENTS, & REQUEST FOR FUTURE AGENDAITEMS
RECONVENE CITY COUNCIL REGULAR MEETING
PUBLIC HEARINGS Item No. 10. ELECTRONIC CAMPAIGN STATEMENTS AND FAIR POLITICAL PRACTICES COMMISSION FILINGS
BUSINESS ITEMS 11. REGIONAL DEFENSE PARTNERSHIP COMMITTEE APPOINTMENTS FOR 2025 AND GOALS FOR WASHINGTON D.C. ADVOCACY TRIP
BUSINESS ITEMS 12. CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMISSION AND TRANSACTIONS AND USE TAX CITIZENS OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE (MEASURE U COMMITTEE) TERM LIMITS
BUSINESS ITEMS 13. REQUEST TO REVIEW RECREATIONAL EVENTS INITIATED BY FORMER COUNCILMEMBER
BUSINESS ITEMS 14. STRATEGIC PARTNERSHIPS – ROUNDTABLE / JOINT MEETING OPTIONS
CITY MANAGER COMMENTS AND REPORTS
COUNCILMEMBERS’ REPORTS AND COMMENTS
REQUEST FOR FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS
ADJOURNMENT

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	Meeting I'm calling this meeting to order. The time is now 530. Madam Clerk, please take a roll call.	00:01:30
	Council member Gama.	00:01:37
	Here, Councilmember Hernandez.	00:01:40
	Here, Councilmember Perez here, Mayor Pro Tem Lopez here and Mayor McQueen Le Jean here.	00:01:42
	Thank you.	00:01:49
	We will now hear public comments. Madam Clerk, do we have any comments?	00:01:50
	No public comments for closed session.	00:01:54
	Thank you.	00:01:56
	Madam Attorney, please read the closed session item into the record.	00:01:58
	Thank you, Madam Mayor.	00:02:01
	We have one conference with legal counsel anticipated litigation being brought.	00:02:03
	Pursuant to Government Code section 54956.9. Initiation of litigation pursuant to Government Code section.	00:02:08
	54956.9 D 4.	00:02:17
	The number of cases is 1.	00:02:21
	And based on.	00:02:23
	Existing facts and circumstances.	00:02:24
	The legislative body of the local agency has decided to initiate or is deciding whether to initiate litigation.	00:02:27
	Thank you. Thank you.	00:02:35
	Do any members of the Council have anything to any conflict of interest?	00:02:37
	To disclose based on the listed item.	00:02:41
	Thank you, Mayor.	00:02:44
	So as you all may recall, we were provided with the circle map, I'll call it, and it gave us a radius circle of 500 feet.	00:02:45
	With the radius dot.	00:02:54
	Be in the middle of a circle.	00:02:56
	And it went out 500 feet from the middle.	00:02:59
	And.	00:03:03
	I looked at mine a little closer and I realized that.	00:03:04
	My house was not the radius.	00:03:08
	And so.	00:03:10
	It was not.	00:03:12
	So we looked at a little closer.	00:03:13
	And determined that I was a 756 feet away from said property.	00:03:15
	And.	00:03:21
	Upon closer scrutination, scrutiny.	00:03:22
	Scrutination.	00:03:26
	Leave a scrutiny, scrutiny upon Jones, scrutination of my situation and the radius and the circle and all this.	00:03:29
	And you all got an e-mail and it turns out that.	00:03:38
	There's the absolute conflict.	00:03:41
	Between 0 and 500 feet.	00:03:43
	And there's a.	00:03:46
	Presumed.	00:03:47
	Rebuttable. Presumption of conflict. Rebuttable.	00:03:48
	Presumption. Presumption of conflict. So.	00:03:52
	If so, there, there's a way for me to say, Oh yeah, I'm I'm not going to recuse myself, but.	00:03:57
	After a considerable discussion with our legal staff and out of a.	00:04:04
	Extraordinary amount of caution.	00:04:08
	I'm going to recuse myself.	00:04:12
	And I'm gonna have.	00:04:14
	My afternoon lunch by myself.	00:04:16
	Thank you, Councilmember.	00:04:19
	Great. And thank you for communicating that.	00:04:22
	To us, yeah. And then just to finish the conversation, can we get an updated map?	00:04:25
	1000 feet from from each of council members property. That way it's very clear.	00:04:30
	It's 1000.	00:04:35
	We'll work on getting that for you. Thank you. Thank you very much.	00:04:37
	Great. Thank you. If there's nothing else, we will recess into the closed session. The time is now 533.	00:04:40
	The council meeting to.	01:01:49
	Monday, March the 20.	01:01:51
	At 6:00.	01:01:53
	30.	01:01:54
	I think you did.	01:01:58
	OK, March the 3rd, 2025.	01:02:02
	Umm, excuse me.	01:02:07
	We will now do the.	01:02:08
	Flag salute by Councilmember Gama.	01:02:13
	Put your right hand over your heart.	01:02:18
	Ready. Begin.	01:02:20
	I pledge allegiance to the flag.	01:02:22
	Of the United States of America.	01:02:25
	And to the Republic for which it stands.	01:02:27
	One Nation.	01:02:29
	To God indivisible, with liberty and justice for all, Thank you. Thank you.	01:02:31
	Thank you.	01:02:39
	Madam Clerk, will you please take a roll call, Councilmember Gama.	01:02:41
	Here. Councilmember Hernandez here.	01:02:45
	Councilmember Perez here, Mayor Pro Tem Lopez here, and Mayor McQueen Le Jean.	01:02:48
	Here. Thank you.	01:02:52
	We will now have Councilmember Perez come with our inspirational.	01:02:54
	I forgot.	01:03:00
	Think of something you want.	01:03:06
	Yes, let's move on. OK, great.	01:03:09
	So anyone else would like to say anything as an inspiration today?	01:03:12
	I would, I would like to say something, I think we were just talking about it earlier and just remind people that the FIRST	01:03:17
	robotics is taking place.	01:03:20
	At the port.	01:03:24
	This well it.	01:03:26
	Opened up this past weekend and it's going to continue into next weekend. And if you want to be inspired by a bunch of young kids	01:03:27
	who are.	01:03:32
	Excited about robotics and learning how to compete?	01:03:36
	Umm, go and attend, it's open to the public.	01:03:40
	Parking is available.	01:03:44
	I think that's one of the most inspirational things that I've.	01:03:46
	Seen in the last few weeks.	01:03:50
	Please enjoy.	01:03:52
	Yeah.	01:03:53
	During the Wine Amy beach cleanup this weekend, I.	01:03:55
	Saw a gentleman that had a robotics jacket on.	01:03:58
	And so I.	01:04:01
	Stopped him and said hey.	01:04:03
	You know there's a shuttle, he goes.	01:04:04
	Shuttle I'm gonna walk. It's not that far. And he was a coach.	01:04:06
	From Arizona.	01:04:10
	And I pulled out my phone and did a little FaceTime live interview with him and.	01:04:12
	His message?	01:04:17
	Is that the city of Winnie? Me is really nice. Everybody's really nice here.	01:04:18
	And, umm.	01:04:24
	He talked about his team.	01:04:25
	Not really.	01:04:27
	Being up there at the top echelons, but regardless, the.	01:04:28
	The experience is what it's about and they don't expect to win what they expect to compete very.	01:04:33
	Very heavily and.	01:04:38
	It was just a.	01:04:41
	Really nice way to hear.	01:04:42
	A visitor impressed with the people of our community and.	01:04:45
	It's gotten.	01:04:48
	Almost 5000 views on my Facebook account.	01:04:49
	Wonderful, wonderful.	01:04:52
	Mayor, if you don't mind, I will add something because it was mine. I apologize. I'm busy during the week. I have a busy week. My	01:04:54
	husband is.	01:04:57
	An inspiration to me. We were running yesterday.	01:05:02
	Hills at Arroyo Verde Park. I don't know if anybody's been out there to see the hills.	01:05:04
	I went the baby way and he went the crazy up the straight Cliff run all the way up and he is 55 years old and not slowing down and	01:05:09
	he.	01:05:13
	He every time we go out, do something physical.	01:05:18
	It just amazes me this. I'm never going to keep up with him and I'm eight years younger than him.	01:05:21
	Wonderful. Thank you. Thank you all for that.	01:05:26
	So we're now going to move to the closed session report. Madam City Attorney, please provide the closed session report.	01:05:29
	Thank you, Madam Mayor. There's no reportable action.	01:05:35
	Great. Thank you.	01:05:38
	Yeah, I just wanted to.	01:05:42
	Let everybody know that I recused myself because I out of an abundance of.	01:05:44
	Caution.	01:05:48
	I live.	01:05:50
	756 feet away from the property in question. So that's why it was not in closed session.	01:05:51
	Thank you.	01:05:58
	Move to public comments not pertaining to the agenda.	01:06:00
	Madam Clerk, do we have any public comments? Yes, we have public comments. We will start with Tim Rubakova and go to Elizabeth	01:06:04
	Rubber.	01:06:08
	Good evening, Mayor.	01:06:16
	City manager and council members.	01:06:18
	My name is Tim Ruble Cava.	01:06:21
	And we just moved here.	01:06:24
	From Winnie to win me.	01:06:26
	On the 3rd of February.	01:06:28
	What our concern is, is the conditional use permit the cup.	01:06:31
	Number PC.	01:06:37
	A pH CU24.	01:06:39
	One the Wine Amy Bay Wi-Fi tower.	01:06:42
	Now as new residents here at 193 W Garden Green.	01:06:46
	For Winnie me, we're writing to ask.	01:06:52
	For your reconsideration of the approval.	01:06:54
	Of the Cup.	01:06:58
	Granted to Michael Taylor, Wi-Fi Harbor.	01:07:00
	By the by the City Council here.	01:07:04
	On November 4th.	01:07:07
	As referenced above.	01:07:09
	We're asking if you can revoke.	01:07:10
	The.	01:07:13
	And reconsider.	01:07:14
	What you approved?	01:07:17
	Because we were not informed.	01:07:20
	Of the proposed installation of the 45 foot.	01:07:22
	Wireless communication tower.	01:07:25
	Which would be abutting.	01:07:28
	To our personal residence.	01:07:30
	Proper disclosure was not given to the residents of Wine Amy Bay Community.	01:07:33
	Or to us.	01:07:39
	As new homeowners, we purchase a property on February 3rd.	01:07:42
	And we're not given any consideration concerning the consequences.	01:07:46
	Of buying this property.	01:07:50
	Not by the city, the sellers or their agent.	01:07:55
	Or the Carefree Living Association at Wyoming Bay, the HOA.	01:07:59
	As part of a real estate transaction.	01:08:05
	Through our agent at Ascrow Company.	01:08:09
	We've solicited information from the HOA as well as.	01:08:12
	The sellers of the property.	01:08:16
	And we're never told about the communication tower installation.	01:08:20
	And we have engaged in an attorney.	01:08:24
	To settle the matter in court.	01:08:27
	So we ask you.	01:08:30
	Personally ask you.	01:08:31
	To reconsider.	01:08:33
	A tower should not be next to a residence which is five feet away.	01:08:35
	From our bedroom.	01:08:39
	It emits RF.	01:08:41
	Emissions.	01:08:43
	And we believe.	01:08:46
	That.	01:08:48
	It wasn't really done well on inspecting.	01:08:49
	How those emissions affect us?	01:08:54
	Cancer.	01:08:56
	You know, headaches, different things that can take place.	01:08:59
	And we're asking if you can reconsider and have an independent inspection.	01:09:03
	On that.	01:09:08
	We want to live here in peace.	01:09:10
	Want to live here?	01:09:13
	Really, we love this area.	01:09:14
	And we ask you.	01:09:17
	Please reconsider.	01:09:18
	Thank you.	01:09:20
	Thank you. Thank you so much.	01:09:21
	Elizabeth.	01:09:24
	OK.	01:09:26
	Good evening, Madam Mayor, and.	01:09:32
	Council members.	01:09:35
	City Manager.	01:09:37
	I'm born and raised in Oxnard.	01:09:39
	I know this community very well.	01:09:42
	Spent my summers at the Wine Amy beach.	01:09:44
	The beautiful city to live in.	01:09:47
	My mom lives two blocks down from the house that we purchased.	01:09:49
	And um.	01:09:53
	We were dismayed.	01:09:55
	When we learned from our neighbor Bob.	01:09:57
	That this installation this.	01:10:00
	Communications tower 45 feet tall was going to be installed.	01:10:03
	Literally right next to our bedroom window.	01:10:08
	We found this out a week after we got the keys to move in.	01:10:12
	And Bob, our neighbor, wrote a letter.	01:10:17
	To you.	01:10:21
	It was red here on November the 4th at your meeting.	01:10:22
	But it was not.	01:10:26
	There were two people here from the community who were.	01:10:28
	Customers.	01:10:31
	Of Wi-Fi.	01:10:32
	Harbor.	01:10:34
	The owner of Wi-Fi Harbor, Michael Taylor.	01:10:36
	Had an opportunity to explain to us what was happening.	01:10:39
	In the community.	01:10:42
	How I know this?	01:10:44
	Is that my husband was given his card.	01:10:45
	And we call them to get Wi-Fi service at our.	01:10:49
	New residents.	01:10:52
	He had an opportunity to tell us right then and there.	01:10:54
	What was planned?	01:10:58
	Asked for our address, my husband gave it to him.	01:11:00
	He had a conversation with my husband.	01:11:03
	Never did he explain.	01:11:06
	That this was something that they had planned to do.	01:11:08
	There's no signage.	01:11:11
	Outside on the lawn, where this place is, this communication tower is going to go.	01:11:13
	There's no communication from the Wine B Bay. This is their newsletter.	01:11:17
	This is.	01:11:22
	Something that we received after we moved in February the 14th, Valentine's Day.	01:11:23
	There's one statement in here, Wi-Fi Harbor.	01:11:28
	Has had the plans for their new tower approved by the city.	01:11:31
	Does not say what kind of tower does not list our address.	01:11:36
	But when you look at the City Council minutes, you'll see that our address, 193 W Garden Green.	01:11:39
	Is listed right there as the location for this.	01:11:45
	So I could go into a lot of reasons why this is not a good thing.	01:11:49
	There are other providers.	01:11:53
	Of Wi-Fi in the area such as Yondu.	01:11:56
	And Frontier.	01:11:58
	It was presented in such a way to this Council that this was the only.	01:12:00
	Option.	01:12:04
	Available to the residents, but that is not true.	01:12:05
	Yondu is installing fiber optics throughout the community.	01:12:09
	A much safer option.	01:12:13
	For Wi-Fi services.	01:12:15
	We currently use.	01:12:17
	Yondu, but Frontiers also in that location.	01:12:18
	Why Wi-Fi Harbor?	01:12:23
	Wants to do this.	01:12:25
	When there are other options.	01:12:27
	We cannot understand.	01:12:29
	But the right thing was not done.	01:12:32
	So we ask for your.	01:12:35
	Consideration.	01:12:37
	Great. Thank you. We're going to allow sure city manager.	01:12:38
	Yes, Thank you, Mayor.	01:12:41
	So just a couple of.	01:12:43
	Pieces of information related to this and just make sure that I know our planning team called you last week to talk about this, so	01:12:45
	just to make sure.	01:12:49
	Everybody has the same information.	01:12:53
	This is not a city project.	01:12:55
	The city is performing.	01:12:57
	This was a project on behalf of Wine Amy Bay.	01:12:58
	And so Winnie Bay.	01:13:02
	Came to the city, submitted for a.	01:13:04
	Full public hearing, and we went through that full public hearing process, my understanding.	01:13:07
	I don't have the exact dates in front of me, but my understanding is.	01:13:11
	That you moved to the residence after the public hearing and after the project was approved.	01:13:14
	So there isn't a city process to now tell those.	01:13:21
	The applicant Winnie me Bay that they can't do their project after they went through the process.	01:13:25
	I think a couple of comments we're talking about conversations with Winnie Bay and their sellers and those things and those are.	01:13:29
	Conversations that they can pursue.	01:13:35
	There isn't a process for the city to now say.	01:13:38
	A validly, rightfully issued.	01:13:42
	Project.	01:13:44
	After a full and.	01:13:46
	Legal public hearing is now invalid.	01:13:47
	So, umm.	01:13:50
	So, uh.	01:13:51
	We would suggest following up with the.	01:13:52
	People that were.	01:13:55
	Implementing that project because it's not a city project.	01:13:57
	Great. Thank you. Thank you, City Manager.	01:14:02
	So.	01:14:05
	Could you explain that we can't?	01:14:07
	Said because the items not on the agenda we are not able to discuss.	01:14:10
	The Council is not able to discuss.	01:14:13
	Great. Thank you.	01:14:17
	We do have more public, sorry about that, William Hubbard and then followed by Greg.	01:14:18
	Hi, my name is William Hubbard and I own a condo.	01:14:29
	At 643 Sunfish Way in a Surfside 3 complex.	01:14:33
	So we received a notice that they're changing.	01:14:40
	Their rules not allowing short term rentals.	01:14:44
	In that particular complex, which was the only complex?	01:14:48
	In Port Hueneme that allowed short time rentals.	01:14:52
	Since the beginning of time.	01:14:56
	And.	01:14:58
	So we.	01:14:59
	Were kind of thrown back. There's about 10 or 15 owners.	01:15:01
	Of condominiums in there that.	01:15:05
	Have short term rentals in there.	01:15:08
	So there's been a definite change in the intensity of use.	01:15:10
	Which?	01:15:15
	Is not allowing the public to have access to the beach.	01:15:17
	Because they're not allowed.	01:15:21
	To have anything less than 30 days.	01:15:23
	So we were in contact with Tyler Light Liddell.	01:15:27
	From the Coastal Commission, he's a coastal program analyst.	01:15:31
	He we explained to him that they've always allowed STR's at that complex.	01:15:36
	They said that many owners, including myself, have purchased an St. a condominium.	01:15:42
	In order to have an SDR there.	01:15:48
	So there was an assurance by the president of the homeowners association and the office manager and said.	01:15:51
	No, we don't. We don't follow that.	01:15:55
	That thing in our Hoas that says that you can't have.	01:15:59
	Anything we just, we don't want to get into litigation or anything like that.	01:16:02
	So the restrictions in the short term rentals in the coastal zone constitute.	01:16:05
	A development under the Coastal Act.	01:16:10
	And any such development is required to go through the coastal.	01:16:13
	Permitting process.	01:16:17
	With an LCP.	01:16:20
	The Coastal Act requires that either the local government.	01:16:22
	Or the Coastal Commission.	01:16:25
	Figure out what they're going to do.	01:16:29
	So I'm not exactly sure what we can do. I don't have any of the other owners here tonight.	01:16:31
	But we would like to.	01:16:37
	Find out of the city of Port Hueneme would be able to.	01:16:39
	Have them do an FCP or do something.	01:16:42
	Since it is.	01:16:48
	It's a it's really important, I think, because all of the owners.	01:16:49
	Do pay through the TLT we pay a tax.	01:16:53
	To the city of Port Hueneme, and in addition to that we have quite a few people that are constantly coming in.	01:16:58
	Pumping money into the economy of Port Hueneme.	01:17:03
	By being allowed to go to the beach, we I have a family right there right now with with two kids.	01:17:06
	In my condo.	01:17:12
	And they spend money.	01:17:14
	And I think it's really important, but I don't know what the next step would be for us. So I just want to put it out there.	01:17:16
	Well, I'm sure we'll be back to talk more about it.	01:17:21
	Thank you. Yes.	01:17:25
	So we actually discussed this on the at the last council meeting. There's a lengthy presentation that we can provide to you.	01:17:27
	And then I met with the homeowners associations on Thursday, several homeowners associations on Thursday and told them kind of the	01:17:35
	summary of what happened at that council meeting.	01:17:39
	In a very quick nutshell, because it's not on the agenda, so the Council can't discuss.	01:17:44
	Of the Council.	01:17:50
	Discussed.	01:17:52
	The key points are that Coastal Commission probably won't allow for an outright ban of short term rentals in the coastal zone.	01:17:54
	And so.	01:18:02
	The City Council authorized staff.	01:18:04
	To begin doing community outreach to ask people what sort of regulations may be desired.	01:18:07
	But.	01:18:13
	We aren't looking at it. We don't believe we can do an outright ban on short term rentals.	01:18:15
	So the short answer there is there's going to be a survey that we're putting together in a community.	01:18:19
	Conversation about short term rentals.	01:18:26
	Are the problems that people want the city to address.	01:18:29
	But it's unlikely.	01:18:32
	I think your concern was a concern that.	01:18:35
	They would be banned outright, no? OK.	01:18:37
	Completely the opposite, OK.	01:18:40
	Like to make sure that we are allowed to do that, right, according to the coastal zone, right And so.	01:18:42
	We the short answer, we can't give legal advice to the homeowners associations, but we don't believe the coastal zone would allow	01:18:48
	it.	01:18:51
	So the city, so the city is not going to.	01:18:54
	Propose something like that.	01:18:56
	At the end of the day, we.	01:18:59
	Similar to the last comment is homeowners associations may decide to try to do whatever they.	01:19:00
	Want to try to do and see if it gets challenged, but the city wouldn't be taking that approach.	01:19:06
	Mr. Greg Ross.	01:19:13
	Hello. Good evening, Mayor. Mayor Pro Tem.	01:19:22
	City Council.	01:19:25
	City Manager.	01:19:26
	Not my first rodeo here. You've seen me before.	01:19:28
	Greg Ross I've been Ventura County resident for a long time.	01:19:32
	I got a little hand out here.	01:19:37
	And I have to say that.	01:19:38
	After consideration I figured.	01:19:40
	My audio on my phone.	01:19:43
	Talking about the noise from the port is.	01:19:47
	A little too over the top.	01:19:50
	So I didn't bring my phone.	01:19:52
	So no, no sound effects here.	01:19:53
	But before I get started with the port.	01:19:56
	I wanted to say.	01:19:59
	Thank you.	01:20:01
	Each and everyone of you.	01:20:02
	For what you're doing with this new dog park.	01:20:03
	And the new work in this over near the library.	01:20:07
	It's great. It just adds to the overall.	01:20:13
	Friendliness of Port Wayne Amy we we love the city.	01:20:17
	And it's great what's going on over there. We needed a dog park. Thank you.	01:20:21
	And you probably don't hear that often enough.	01:20:26
	But.	01:20:28
	We sincerely believe that.	01:20:29
	You're doing good work here.	01:20:31
	Secondly.	01:20:33
	I want to praise the Police Department.	01:20:35
	I've had.	01:20:38
	I've lived in a lot of cities, but.	01:20:40
	Poor anemia is really near and dear to us.	01:20:42
	We.	01:20:45
	Occasionally get.	01:20:47
	Problems.	01:20:49
	Especially from the port.	01:20:50
	So about 3 weeks ago.	01:20:51
	At 12 noon, straight up.	01:20:55
	For 45 minutes there was an incessant honking from the port.	01:20:58
	You know all they have to do is lift the hood of.	01:21:04
	The vehicle.	01:21:06
	And pull out one of the plugs of the battery and it'll stop.	01:21:07
	But we called the Police Department and they were very responsive. Thank you.	01:21:11
	Chief Frederico.	01:21:16
	They they they stopped it.	01:21:17
	The Police Department showed up and they and they put a stop to it.	01:21:19
	In addition, there was.	01:21:22
	2:00 AM.	01:21:24
	Backup beeps.	01:21:26
	Warning beeps from the port.	01:21:28
	And once again I called and they took care of it.	01:21:30
	Thank you to the Police Department. I don't feel in my heart.	01:21:34
	I don't know this for a fact, but I don't feel that the.	01:21:38
	Ventura Sheriff Department would have been nearly as responsive.	01:21:42
	To this kind of a problem from the port.	01:21:47
	So.	01:21:49
	I owe a debt of gratitude to the Police Department. Thank you.	01:21:51
	So next on my my little note, maybe you all got this. I hope you did.	01:21:56
	Is.	01:22:01
	The port.	01:22:03
	We are the redheaded stepchild.	01:22:05
	To the port.	01:22:08
	I'm sorry, that's a. That's not a very positive term.	01:22:09
	And I'm going to run out of time here, but.	01:22:12
	They've got carbon pollution, they've got we've got trucks, we've got noise pollution, the winds always blowing in our direction.	01:22:15
	95% of the time.	01:22:21
	But guess what?	01:22:23
	We we have to.	01:22:25
	Suck it up and this is what we get.	01:22:27
	There's other things on this list.	01:22:30
	The most important one is this.	01:22:34
	This is in the lobby.	01:22:36
	Out front.	01:22:39
	In the City Hall.	01:22:40
	No mention.	01:22:42
	Air pollution control permits.	01:22:43
	The ports not mentioned in here. Now I know it's federal law.	01:22:45
	It's a federal place.	01:22:49
	OK, I'm gonna. I'm gonna stop.	01:22:50
	You've all got my notes.	01:22:52
	And I hope that.	01:22:54
	You understand that the port is not our friend.	01:22:56
	Thank you. Thank you for your comments. And then we just have a few written comments. Thank you.	01:23:00
	I am unaware that Councilmember Laura Hernandez.	01:23:06
	Used her elected position to undermine the hiring and the current duties of Police Chief Michael Federico.	01:23:09
	This behavior is beyond reproachable that an elected council member would use her time to negatively impact such a valued member	01:23:15
	of our community.	01:23:19
	Is truly abhorrent.	01:23:23
	I live in Port Hueneme and Winami Bay when I go to our pool or just walk around our little town within our town.	01:23:24
	I feel very safe with good reason.	01:23:30
	I often talk to my neighbors. Everyone knows Chief Rico and it's always a positive interaction.	01:23:33
	He has been here on a bike, in meetings and with other officers on the rare occasion of trouble in our suite community.	01:23:38
	He overseas the senior dinner at the Pavilion monthly that everyone thoroughly enjoys.	01:23:44
	Many of us residents in the Bay would visit the Italian restaurant he owned, Rico's.	01:23:49
	And were saddened when it closed.	01:23:54
	And elated to hear he was coming back to Port Hueneme as our chief of Police.	01:23:56
	If we see him in town, he is always, always, always happy and available for conversation.	01:24:00
	He is a pillar of strength for us.	01:24:05
	Believe me when I say to have a police chief like Chief Federico protecting us gives our community a feeling of security and calm.	01:24:07
	That, in these tumultuous times, is, well, priceless.	01:24:14
	Will Councilmember Laura Hernandez be held accountable? The community is watching. Thank you, Jody Levine.	01:24:18
	Thanks dear mayor, Mayor Pro Tem, council members and city staff.	01:24:26
	I'm writing to express concern about the ongoing threat to our infrastructure and beach access.	01:24:30
	As we rely heavily on federal funding and the Army Corps of Engineers for sand replenishment, it is crucial that the port and the	01:24:35
	city established a clear, reliable process to ensure timely, sound delivery and a plan for addressing any shortfalls when these	01:24:40
	needs are not met.	01:24:45
	From an outside perspective, it seems that each cycle brings a new process and unfortunately something always goes wrong.	01:24:50
	Once again, we find ourselves critically short of sand.	01:24:57
	With no guarantee of securing funding for future replenishment, especially with the recent federal upheaval and proposed cuts of	01:25:01
	more than 2000 federal employees.	01:25:05
	To the US Army Corps of Engineers.	01:25:10
	Is there a documented procedure for securing sound replenishment funding? Is it clear who is in the city is responsible for this	01:25:13
	task?	01:25:17
	Despite the recurring sound summit, I remain unsure of his.	01:25:21
	Its tangible outcomes.	01:25:24
	I urge the City and the board to consider requesting community benefit funds or emergency city funds.	01:25:26
	To Commission a comprehensive report that outlines the following.	01:25:32
	One A list of critical infrastructure at risk from erosion due to a lack of sound replenishment over at least 2 cycles.	01:25:36
	Including the pier, beach facilities, promenade, park, sidewalks, streets.	01:25:43
	Utilities, signage and structures.	01:25:47
	The report should also include the cost of replacing our.	01:25:49
	Or relocating these assets.	01:25:52
	Furthermore, it could consider infrastructure outside the city's jurisdiction, such as port and railway structures.	01:25:54
	#2 Alternative contractors who could assist withstand movement and replenishment #3 Alternative funding and collaboration options	01:26:01
	to ensure sound replenishment.	01:26:06
	#4 alternative solutions to sound replenishment, including nature based approaches.	01:26:11
	As sea walls and rock.	01:26:16
	Revetments offer short term fixes while exasperating sound loss.	01:26:18
	Thank you for your attention to this.	01:26:23
	Pressing issue.	01:26:25
	That was sincerely Joan.	01:26:27
	And then?	01:26:31
	If I can just note there, Mayor, that we, the council, has asked for an item.	01:26:34
	I think at a meeting or two ago for a dredge update where we would provide some information about.	01:26:39
	The incident.	01:26:47
	This year.	01:26:48
	These these processes are complicated federal and state.	01:26:49
	Processes. So the incident this year is not related to lack of funding, the funding was there.	01:26:52
	It was related to a federal.	01:26:57
	Our estate clean air requirement that the federal government did not believe they needed to meet, which led to two jurisdictions.	01:27:00
	None of them being the city.	01:27:07
	But two jurisdictions.	01:27:09
	Arguing for several months.	01:27:10
	So we'll provide an update on that and.	01:27:12
	I think the reality.	01:27:15
	At the end of the day though, is that when they're these complicated processes with federal, state.	01:27:16
	Entities. Sometimes things like these happen.	01:27:21
	But we'll provide an update on where we're at and what steps we plan to take.	01:27:24
	And and how the dredge?	01:27:31
	Just final information about the dredge now that this round is complete, so, so we'll provide that information at the next.	01:27:34
	Council meeting.	01:27:41
	Great. Thank you.	01:27:42
	Madam Clerk, are there any other? Yeah, one more. And then I just wanted to note this one was exceeded the 500 word limit, so I	01:27:44
	will read only up to the fifth hundred word.	01:27:47
	Would like to discuss the waste of time and tax funds spent on bogus parking enforcement citations.	01:27:52
	Question Why would residents ask permission to temporarily park in a public St.	01:27:58
	The trailer will be there for less than 36 hours and all municipal codes are being followed.	01:28:02
	Received citation warning Municipal Code 3241 for not contacting parking enforcement part prior to parking on Public St.	01:28:08
	Number one Municipal Code 3241 states vehicles and excess of £6000 are prohibited from parking and public St.	01:28:17
	Our travel trailer does not exceed 6000 lbs.	01:28:24
	The municipal code does not state that parking enforcement needs to be advised of such vehicles on the public St. prior to parking	01:28:27
	them.	01:28:31
	#2 Municipal Code 3267 states that a trailer must be attached to a vehicle capable of moving a trailer in a normal manner upon the	01:28:34
	street. This was not mentioned in the citation warning, but quite relevant to trailer owners of Winnie Mean.	01:28:41
	I am familiar with our municipal codes as a responsible trailer owner and resident.	01:28:48
	The trailer in question is parked without blocking our driveway or neighbors. It is under the 6000 lbs weight limit mentioned in	01:28:52
	Municipal Code 3241.	01:28:57
	We arrived after 10:00 PM on Sunday night. It is hitched to a truck and can.	01:29:01
	Capable of being moved.	01:29:06
	We have 0 history of issues with parking our trailer on the public St. long term.	01:29:08
	However, requiring residents to ask for permission or notify the city to use a public St. for less than 72 hours.	01:29:12
	Especially when following the municipal codes is overstepping of power by our city and staff.	01:29:19
	References and photos provided below.	01:29:24
	Division Nine. Stopping standing and parking for certain purposes or in certain places. Code of ordinances for Winnie California	01:29:26
	Municipal Code Library.	01:29:30
	3241 for her.	01:29:34
	Prohibition of stopping parking or standing.	01:29:36
	No person shall stop, park or leave standing any vehicle, whether attended or unattended, except when necessary.	01:29:39
	To avoid conflict with other traffic or in compliance with the directions of a peace officer or official traffic control device in	01:29:44
	any of the following places.	01:29:48
	A crosswalk, except that a bus engaged as a common carrier or taxicab may stop to load or unload passengers.	01:29:53
	Be within 15 feet of the driveway entrance to any fire station other than fire department vehicles.	01:29:59
	Or within 15 feet of a fire hydrant.	01:30:05
	See in front of a public or private driveway.	01:30:07
	See on any public sidewalk.	01:30:10
	E alongside or opposite any street or highway excavation or obstruction.	01:30:12
	F on the roadway side of any vehicle parked or standing at the curb or edge of the roadway. G with any Parkway.	01:30:17
	Age on another truck.	01:30:24
	On other than a truck route, if a vehicle is in excess of 6000 lbs weight.	01:30:25
	3267 Parking of trailer semi trailers and trailer coaches prohibited.	01:30:30
	No person shall park or leave standing any trailer, semi trailer or trailer coach on any city street unless the same as attached	01:30:35
	to a vehicle capable of moving the trailer.	01:30:40
	Semi trailer or trailer coach in a normal manner?	01:30:44
	That is by Hilda Ocampo.	01:30:47
	And that concludes public comment.	01:30:49
	Mayor, if I could on that one, I'll just say that sounds complicated, but.	01:30:51
	I'm gonna ask our team. I don't know the answer to that one. I had not heard.	01:30:56
	Any details about this prior to the meeting? So I'll just ask our team to review it and get back to the resident. Thank you.	01:31:01
	And we do thank everyone for your public comments this evening. We're going to move to the agenda approval.	01:31:09
	May I have a motion and a second to approve the agenda so move?	01:31:14
	2nd.	01:31:20
	All in.	01:31:22
	Aye, all opposed.	01:31:23
	Hearing none, motion passes unanimously.	01:31:25
	All right, do we have any members of the Council with any conflict of interest to disclose regarding the agenda items?	01:31:28
	OK. If not, we're going to move to our first presentation from Mr. Ali Qasimi.	01:31:38
	Air pollution control officer.	01:31:44
	On behalf of the Ventura County Air Pollution Board District.	01:31:46
	Good evening, Mayor, Doctor John and council members.	01:31:50
	I was asked by Doctor Lejeune to stop by to introduce myself.	01:31:55
	And give you a brief description of what we do and if there is any question.	01:32:00
	I would be able to answer.	01:32:04
	My name is Ali Qasemi. I'm the Executive Officer of Air Pollution Control District, Adventurous County.	01:32:07
	And Ventura County. We are a special agency we founded in 1968 to improve the air quality in Ventura County.	01:32:13
	He says sizable county. We have about 2200 square miles, 850,000 residents.	01:32:22
	1300 stationary source facilities that we permit and more than 820,000 vehicles.	01:32:28
	Where with regular actually we authorized to regulate the stationary sources.	01:32:35
	We have 47 employee skilled full-time employees.	01:32:42
	Our mission is to protect public health and agriculture from the adverse effect.	01:32:48
	Of air pollution.	01:32:52
	In order to do that, we develop a comprehensive programs and we have to meet the state and federal standards.	01:32:53
	Or we have a ABCD board that consists of 10 members. There are 5 country supervisor and five City Council members.	01:33:02
	And their position are to adopt and amend rules and regulations and air quality manage to approve air quality management plan and	01:33:11
	and our annual budget and general policy procedure directives.	01:33:17
	We have other committees as well that those are the standing committee, advisory committee, that it is part of our process.	01:33:24
	We as a general, we.	01:33:34
	We are very.	01:33:37
	We just regulate.	01:33:39
	Stationary sources.	01:33:41
	And we have a limited authority as compared with federal and state that they have broader authority regarding mobile sources and	01:33:43
	other.	01:33:48
	The sources of a mission that we do not have, we only control.	01:33:52
	Actually a stationary sources.	01:33:56
	For the sake of the time I'm just not going to go through the detail, but I left a copy for you guys in case if you're interested.	01:34:01
	What we do is regulate facilities. They start start from gas station dry cleaners, small auto body shops.	01:34:08
	And it continued to go to other manufacturing operations, which treatment plant, chemical plant, landfills, oil and gas production	01:34:14
	facilities, which are the big facilities.	01:34:19
	We have about 16 major facilities and only.	01:34:24
	Non major sources about like 1200 to 1300 facilities.	01:34:28
	That we regulate.	01:34:32
	We have the key APCD programs are.	01:34:37
	Monitoring, planning, rule development, permit processing, compliance and incentive program.	01:34:40
	These are the key APCD program.	01:34:45
	Monitoring we have, we monitor the air quality in the Ventura County. We have 5 monitoring station throughout the southern port	01:34:48
	portion of the county, which is very populated.	01:34:53
	And we forecast air quality to the public and we also do do issue air quality and smoke alert.	01:34:58
	Planning a rural development as I said, we develop rules which is a road map to how we meet the.	01:35:08
	Federal and state standard.	01:35:14
	We also develop rules and regulation as well.	01:35:16
	To make sure that we meet those standards.	01:35:19
	For permit processing, any equipment that emits any of any emissions, we control and we issue a permit to the equipment that they	01:35:22
	have.	01:35:26
	That's what they call it, a stationary source.	01:35:30
	We have about 1300 permitted facility as I mentioned.	01:35:33
	And we make sure that they all have the best available control technology on them.	01:35:36
	And we when they get the permit, we set permit condition to limit their emissions.	01:35:40
	Compliance division we do annually about 2500 enforcement activity.	01:35:46
	And we response to nuisance complaints, any notices and we issue noticeable compliance and notices of notices of violations.	01:35:51
	And they are the one enforcing the permit conditions that we have on these equipment for on these facilities.	01:35:59
	As I mentioned, we have very limited authority and we do, we just do.	01:36:08
	Regulate stationary sources but.	01:36:13
	We have incentive program which is very successful. We get annually about 5 to $10 million.	01:36:16
	That we incentivize.	01:36:21
	For facilities or for.	01:36:24
	Applicants that they change their equipment, mobile equipment, off-road equipment.	01:36:26
	To something a newer or better or.	01:36:32
	Very less immediate equipment.	01:36:36
	These like we change AG equipment, tractors, construction equipment, offered equipment, marine vessels.	01:36:39
	And we pay even for EV charging is infrastructure and ocean going vessel. The speed reduction program is another received	01:36:46
	incentive program that we have.	01:36:51
	They're all covered under several incentive programs. They are called Call Moyer Program, Farmer Program, and Community Air	01:36:56
	Protection Program.	01:37:01
	And we have other.	01:37:06
	Program as well which as my as I mentioned like protecting blue whales, blue sky and this is.	01:37:07
	For the like a VSR program that we have.	01:37:15
	OK. I just want to go briefly and explain about the pyramid processing that we have.	01:37:25
	When any.	01:37:30
	A new app actually facility comes in or any facility that they want to change their equipment or modify their equipment, increase	01:37:32
	their throughput.	01:37:36
	Or add another equipment they got to file an.	01:37:40
	Application with us.	01:37:43
	This application is for example they call it authority to construct application.	01:37:44
	Then from the authority construct when they file.	01:37:49
	We have within 30 days we have to get back to them and say that for example you're we need additional information or information	01:37:52
	that you submitted is complete.	01:37:55
	When that happens.	01:37:59
	In it takes us another month or two, we issue a permit to construct they issued after the permit to construct is issued as permit	01:38:01
	of permit to construct, it's going to have a set of permit conditions.	01:38:07
	Then they're gonna go and finish their construction. They're gonna come back to us and they say the construction are done. If	01:38:13
	there are sources that they have to comply, they have to do, you're gonna make sure that they do it. So we check everything to see	01:38:17
	if this equipment was built.	01:38:22
	Based on the condition that we it was set for that facility.	01:38:27
	Then we're going to issue a permit, temporary permit to operate and then after that we're going to have.	01:38:30
	Permit to operate and this is the time that they they're going to continue with their operation.	01:38:36
	Couple of rules that would they are very important is rule 10 that tells them.	01:38:42
	You need the application for Permit to Construct and Permit to Operate.	01:38:46
	Rule 23 is.	01:38:49
	If you check and say that my equipment is not subject to any permitting, so these are exempt equipment per se.	01:38:51
	And I said.	01:38:59
	When the application is completed, we do permit like we do emission calculation.	01:39:00
	We evaluate to see if there is any control equipment is needed, What is the best available control technology for that type of	01:39:05
	equipment and if.	01:39:09
	There are like we check NSR rule, news source review rule and we establish permit condition for those.	01:39:14
	Move too fast.	01:39:30
	OK. And sometimes there is a equipment which is within 1000 feet of a facility that requires public noticing?	01:39:38
	Noticing.	01:39:46
	Issue a public notice to all of the kids that goes to that.	01:39:47
	School and also.	01:39:51
	All of the residential within 1/4 of a mile of that facility.	01:39:53
	And we there is an annual permit renewal fee associated with these permits too.	01:39:56
	Now new source review is an important rule for us is rule 26.	01:40:04
	And that means that.	01:40:09
	There is no like if you want to add any equipment to your facility if you modifying your equipment at the facility.	01:40:11
	There is a zero net emission. That means you cannot do that unless you provide offset.	01:40:18
	Or there is a reduction somewhere?	01:40:23
	So.	01:40:26
	We apply the best available control technology to reduce those emissions.	01:40:27
	And if there are any offset requirements, we're going to ask the facility to provide those offsets. There is a threshold that	01:40:31
	offset is required and that's 5 tons per per year of Roc and five tonnes per year of Knox.	01:40:37
	And these offset requirement is a very complicated.	01:40:43
	Still actually certification.	01:40:47
	Calculation being conducted. I'm not going to go through that, just know that there is a.	01:40:49
	Zero increase.	01:40:54
	From the new source review rules that we have.	01:40:55
	Like any emission that is being added has to be offset.	01:40:59
	That's all I had and I'm ready to answer any question you may have.	01:41:03
	Thank you.	01:41:07
	Any questions? Any questions?	01:41:09
	Councilmember Gamma.	01:41:11
	Thank you for the.	01:41:13
	Excuse me, presentation.	01:41:15
	Just reminded me something.	01:41:17
	I remember when we ran into the air.	01:41:20
	Pollution credit issue last time with the dredge cycle.	01:41:23
	Basically, we ran out of.	01:41:27
	Air pollution credits.	01:41:28
	And, umm.	01:41:30
	You view the position is is that the dredge equipment is stationary.	01:41:32
	I think we had a little bit of a discussion on that, yes, so.	01:41:38
	So you view it as a stationary.	01:41:43
	Not you, but the rules regulations view the dredge operation as a stationary even though it's constantly moving.	01:41:46
	It's a mob source. It doesn't require any permit, however.	01:41:53
	They have prep equipment. This is a portable like engines that they have.	01:41:58
	That they are purpose certified. That means state.	01:42:04
	Already certified this.	01:42:07
	When you have a per.	01:42:10
	Based on the state.	01:42:12
	Regulation if you have your utilizing any perp.	01:42:14
	Equipment. Any engine, let's say.	01:42:18
	In a territorial water.	01:42:20
	And if you require.	01:42:22
	Like you, if you your emission is high, you're required to provide offsets now.	01:42:24
	As soon as they said you're required to provide offsets, there is a way we have to have a control over how much emission those.	01:42:30
	Perp engine is going to create correct?	01:42:38
	In order for us to keep track of that offset, we have to issue a permit.	01:42:41
	It's not that.	01:42:45
	Your dredging operation requires a permit from this. It's not the stationary source.	01:42:47
	It is a mobile source.	01:42:51
	Was because of the state rule.	01:42:53
	That requires those, let's say.	01:42:55
	Construction that it's a lot of construction, a lot of emissions that require offset because it's more than 5 tons per year of	01:42:57
	Roc.	01:43:01
	And five times per year of Nogs.	01:43:05
	They have to keep track of it. In order for us to keep track of it, we have to issue a permit.	01:43:07
	So when I ship.	01:43:12
	Docks at the port of.	01:43:14
	Wanimi, yes.	01:43:16
	It is not treated as a stationary no emission object. No, that's a federal source that is being regulated by federal, not even for	01:43:17
	it by state, however.	01:43:22
	If that ships comes in and.	01:43:27
	Like we see visible emission from this stack of the ships.	01:43:29
	Up to December time frame, we had no control over it. Like we couldn't even enforce it.	01:43:34
	But in December, we went to our board and.	01:43:40
	Doctor Rajan and.	01:43:43
	All of my board member approved the MO U that we made with.	01:43:44
	State of California.	01:43:49
	That right now we can enforce that visible emission.	01:43:51
	Because we have a rule 51 that says nuisance.	01:43:54
	Any nuisance is going to happen. We can control over it, but it was mobile sources. But right now because of the MOU that we have,	01:43:58
	we have control of enforcement and giving tickets and notice of violation.	01:44:04
	Are you familiar with the stacks equipment that the port recently brought in? I think it's something that system.	01:44:10
	You know, it's it's a.	01:44:16
	It's a scrubbing system.	01:44:19
	Is they call it bonnet system?	01:44:20
	It's a bonnet system, but that it goes over the stack of the ships.	01:44:22
	And is called like. It operates like a scrubber. It's the filter.	01:44:27
	95 to 99% efficiency based on the state certification.	01:44:32
	OK, so you don't?	01:44:38
	Oversee that at all.	01:44:39
	OK.	01:44:41
	That's all I have.	01:44:45
	OK, umm.	01:44:46
	Mayor Pro Tem.	01:44:48
	Yes, and in one of your slides you had.	01:44:49
	You had the county broken in.	01:44:51
	And it looked like Port Hueneme was in zone 1.	01:44:54
	Compared to all other.	01:44:57
	Zones in Ventura County How is our air pollution compared to?	01:44:59
	The other.	01:45:04
	Cities. Unfortunately I don't have that information available, but.	01:45:05
	Even let's say for example, Porter by name.	01:45:09
	Puerto Vanie has.	01:45:12
	Probably uh.	01:45:14
	Most of the facility that you have the station resources I'm referring to.	01:45:15
	There are small sources.	01:45:19
	But you're next to Oxnard.	01:45:20
	Oxnard, for example, they have.	01:45:22
	New indie. We have a voice wastewater treatment facility. So if you ask me.	01:45:24
	How port of my name is if based on just number of?	01:45:30
	Facilities that you have in Puerto Valley, which they are a small facility.	01:45:33
	Nothing.	01:45:37
	You cannot just say the emissions are perfect because.	01:45:38
	The wind direction has more effect on how the pollution is going to move from one location to another location.	01:45:41
	And you have Oxnard next to you that they have.	01:45:48
	Two large facility in.	01:45:50
	But umm.	01:45:52
	We have monitoring station in five locations that if you you look at that and then.	01:45:53
	Based on those monitoring, we are monitoring and we trying to uniformly to find out how the county is doing to meet the federal	01:45:59
	and state standards, OK.	01:46:04
	Also, umm.	01:46:10
	How much How much of the county are you guys federally funded?	01:46:12
	Knowing that, you know, there might be a squeeze in federal funding in the future.	01:46:18
	Well, there are EPA funds actually funds that is coming to air pollution control district if you ask me for example about like.	01:46:23
	Eight to 10% of.	01:46:31
	Our font is coming from EPA.	01:46:33
	Be federal funds.	01:46:35
	But this is.	01:46:37
	Actually, we are completely in order for us to implement.	01:46:38
	Federal standards and everything, they are helping all of the district is not only Ventura County.	01:46:42
	But ours is about like probably about 8 to 10% those fund hasn't been touched because.	01:46:47
	Local agency cannot operate without those funds. Those are funds to assist the agency, local agency to implement the federal	01:46:53
	requirements to meet the standards. Now there are other funds, federal funds that we are getting through the incentive programs	01:46:58
	that we have.	01:47:02
	Fortunately, the ones that we have.	01:47:08
	Hasn't been touched.	01:47:11
	So if you are telling me for example, how well we are doing with the federal funds?	01:47:12
	In fiscal year 2425, we are doing fine. Nothing has been freeze, nothing.	01:47:17
	Like we are getting out of the money in our account.	01:47:21
	If you ask me, what's going to happen in 2526?	01:47:25
	Based on the conversation that I have had with EPA staff.	01:47:28
	These are today's information.	01:47:32
	Tomorrow may be different, so I cannot tell you that.	01:47:35
	Thank you.	01:47:38
	No problem.	01:47:39
	Any other questions?	01:47:40
	Councilmember Hernandez.	01:47:42
	Thank you, Mayor.	01:47:43
	Thank you for the presentation. I remember you coming last year and.	01:47:44
	I learned something every every time you come. No problem. Yeah. I didn't know about the stationary versus non stationary	01:47:48
	equipment and the regulations authority you have over only the stationary.	01:47:54
	And then your part in the dredging also, that was quite informative. Thank you, Mr. Gama, for that question.	01:48:00
	I attended the OR. I listened in on the Orman Power plant. Umm.	01:48:07
	Lease extension meeting.	01:48:12
	On set, I think was Saturday night, Friday night, Saturday night.	01:48:15
	Do you have any jurisdictional authority over what's going on there with the not the extension? We don't. But if Ormond Beach	01:48:19
	start operating, if the extension is being given?	01:48:25
	All of these stationary sources is going to be under our permits and then we enforce all of the rules and regulations.	01:48:31
	And based on your knowledge of the wind direction, does the wind normally?	01:48:37
	Low SE Or is it just?	01:48:42
	It's hard to say.	01:48:46
	It varies.	01:48:48
	Usually the morning and the evening wind direction are different, so.	01:48:51
	So OK.	01:48:56
	Thank you.	01:48:58
	No problem. Any other questions?	01:48:59
	If there are no other questions, thank you so much, Mr. Cassini. Thank you. And I'm glad that I was here to explain what we do	01:49:02
	and.	01:49:05
	If you guys have any questions, if there is anything I can help you with, just reach out.	01:49:08
	And thank you, Doctor Lejeune, for asking me to be here.	01:49:13
	Great. Thank you so much. Thank you.	01:49:15
	We will now move on to presentation #2 I'll go ahead and turn it over to our City Manager.	01:49:19
	Thank you. And I'm going to introduce Public Works Director Fred Camarillo to give.	01:49:25
	A presentation on this project, I just want to start by saying everybody may remember is about a year ago where we realized that.	01:49:30
	One of our critical.	01:49:39
	Sewer main lines was a.	01:49:41
	About to fail and cause major issues and we talked at that time about.	01:49:44
	Sort of multiple problems that that would cause including, you know, St. closures and, and limited access to businesses and all of	01:49:49
	those things.	01:49:53
	And, umm.	01:49:57
	Our public works team really jumped on it, came up with.	01:50:00
	A really good solution that really.	01:50:04
	Addressed a lot of those concerns that we had and they we are now closing that project out and we wanted to take an opportunity to	01:50:08
	let the Public works department talk about.	01:50:13
	How they did this project?	01:50:18
	Better, umm.	01:50:20
	So with that, I'll hand it off to Mr. Camarillo.	01:50:20
	Thank you. Good evening, Mayor. Mayor Pro Tem.	01:50:26
	Council members of the audience.	01:50:28
	We'll get into this here.	01:50:33
	As you know, it's a sewer force main that.	01:50:36
	Failed on us that we needed to get repaired.	01:50:40
	So this first slide is just kind of gives some information about some of the things that happen.	01:50:44
	And a couple slides, you'll see some things that will make some of these things make more sense.	01:50:49
	You see, their lift station is actually.	01:50:54
	A central location that pumps are at that move that water from one elevation to another so it can continue on its journey.	01:50:57
	The force main is that pumped water that's going down the line, whereas opposed to gravity sewers like that are in most of the	01:51:05
	residential areas.	01:51:10
	Leaves a building or a house.	01:51:14
	Under gravity and then continues to flow all the way.	01:51:17
	And in some cases.	01:51:21
	To a lift station because we're so close to the beach.	01:51:23
	It has to be.	01:51:28
	Pumped up so it can continue on its journey.	01:51:30
	The pipe that.	01:51:34
	Failed was.	01:51:35
	Something that's called ACP asbestos concrete pipe.	01:51:37
	And you'll see in a couple of slides here.	01:51:41
	It was hydrogen sulfide that ended up attacking the inside of that pipe.	01:51:46
	It's concrete based, So what happens is the bacteria in there?	01:51:51
	Ends up.	01:51:55
	Reacting with the material.	01:51:56
	And it creates sulfuric acid which starts to corrode stuff away so.	01:51:57
	That was the type of pipe that we were dealing with.	01:52:03
	The type of pipe that we replaced it with HTTP.	01:52:06
	And we'll have some.	01:52:10
	Things here that.	01:52:12
	We can show you.	01:52:13
	What it is? This is a cross section of.	01:52:15
	What we ended up putting in.	01:52:18
	Another line.	01:52:21
	Which I'll get to too, but that is now the.	01:52:22
	Pipe that all of our.	01:52:25
	Flow goes through now.	01:52:27
	Could you share with everybody how you got that pipe over the wall and into the trench? Because I thought that was amazing.	01:52:29
	That's a public works manager, Brian Fomenko, to come up here and explain that he was.	01:52:37
	The one that is.	01:52:43
	Was out there, I mean if you drove by at anytime of the during.	01:52:45
	That whole project, Brian was out there day-to-day, so.	01:52:49
	If you'd like to.	01:52:52
	Answer Council.	01:52:54
	To answer that.	01:52:58
	Oh, sorry, we're getting ahead of ourselves. So to answer that.	01:53:00
	There was a the last section we were to deal with.	01:53:03
	Well, we had two ways of being able to push that pipe through and he was either.	01:53:06
	Over the wall.	01:53:10
	Or through Ventura Rd. at short interval sections.	01:53:11
	So we chose to fuse it all together at one time.	01:53:16
	And then we brought it over the wall. We had excavators and backhoes.	01:53:19
	Holding up on each side of the wall so that we weren't on top of.	01:53:23
	Scrivener's Wall.	01:53:26
	And then we pulled it through.	01:53:28
	The section as you see right there, that's the last of it right there.	01:53:30
	7600 and something odd feet. That's the end of it, as it was.	01:53:34
	Being pulled towards Ventura Rd.	01:53:38
	And then lastly the.	01:53:44
	Pipe that we ended up using as what we.	01:53:46
	Call a host pipe to pull that pipe through.	01:53:49
	Is a clay pipe.	01:53:53
	And that was something that we ended up.	01:53:56
	Using once we got a little bit further when it first happened.	01:54:00
	There was a hole, a sinkhole developed.	01:54:06
	It was identified that there was.	01:54:09
	An issue with that pipe.	01:54:11
	Immediately took to the task of getting that fixed first.	01:54:15
	At that same time, we realized.	01:54:19
	We could see the condition of the pipe and we knew that it was not going to last. So we had to figure out something else in order	01:54:22
	to make sure that we didn't continue to have incident after incident like this. So.	01:54:27
	Here you'll see.	01:54:35
	That's the pipe that came out of the ground right there where that original.	01:54:37
	Break was right here on Ventura and Pearl Street.	01:54:41
	It was installed in the 60s. Generally those things have.	01:54:45
	What are expected to be like 75 year life. So it didn't last quite that long.	01:54:50
	When we started thinking about why maybe that didn't last as long, there was a couple of things.	01:54:55
	Over the years, through our.	01:55:01
	Master plan for fixing our wastewater system.	01:55:03
	We've diverted other.	01:55:07
	Sewage going around the city into different areas. At one time that pipe was completely full all the time.	01:55:10
	When we made the improvements to some of the other locations, that became a pipe that was running probably like half full, maybe	01:55:18
	3/4 full.	01:55:21
	But that also gave.	01:55:26
	Sulfuric acid the chance because it's exposed to the air to start developing and probably was the reason for deteriorating the	01:55:28
	pipe faster.	01:55:32
	So as I mentioned.	01:55:39
	That we fix what we could.	01:55:40
	We.	01:55:42
	Crossed our fingers and ordered extra parts and hope that.	01:55:44
	It wouldn't break again while we figured out what else.	01:55:48
	To do it in order to make a permanent.	01:55:51
	Repair on that.	01:55:53
	In that slide there, you'll see that line that was repaired.	01:55:55
	Convey sewage out of all of the base which is highlighted there in the yellow striping.	01:56:00
	And then all that area there that's.	01:56:05
	It's hard to see on there, but I believe it's orange striping running through there.	01:56:08
	And the key thing on that is is that.	01:56:12
	It's you can't shut that off.	01:56:16
	Because stuff's happening.	01:56:18
	24 hours a day.	01:56:20
	And that particular line handles about 1,000,000 gallons of sewage every day.	01:56:22
	So we didn't have an option of saying, well, we'll just.	01:56:27
	Not allow anybody to.	01:56:31
	Use their facilities anymore that wasn't.	01:56:34
	That wasn't an option.	01:56:36
	So.	01:56:39
	We went ahead and.	01:56:41
	Started looking how can we do this? That line runs from essentially the intersection of Pleasant Valley.	01:56:44
	And Ventura Rd.	01:56:49
	And runs all the way down.	01:56:51
	Ventura Road and then turn South and runs underneath Surfside Village.	01:56:53
	Through the RV lot that's back there.	01:56:58
	And then from there it goes and continues on its way through the park and.	01:57:00
	To the treatment plant.	01:57:04
	So it was 4200.	01:57:05
	Approximately 4200 linear feet.	01:57:07
	That we had to get replaced.	01:57:10
	And some of those challenges.	01:57:13
	Or because Ventura Rd. as you all know, is.	01:57:16
	It's a major artery through our city, so.	01:57:20
	There's all kinds of utilities running under the ground.	01:57:22
	A lot of things that.	01:57:26
	Could have prevented.	01:57:27
	Easy construction of a line if we had to do that.	01:57:30
	We started out assuming that's what we were going to have to do and we.	01:57:35
	You can see there's some preliminary drawings that our engineering team came up with.	01:57:40
	And we had determined at that point.	01:57:45
	We're going to have to have a bypass to get all of that.	01:57:47
	Flow through.	01:57:50
	And when we were first looking at it, we were going to have to shut off all of the.	01:57:52
	Turn pockets to pretty much every street crossing out onto Ventura Rd.	01:57:55
	In order to be able to.	01:57:59
	Get that there or have to go underground.	01:58:02
	In certain sections, which would have caused its own problems because now you're creating a line that's going up and down.	01:58:04
	It would have been, it would have been very disruptive.	01:58:11
	In the beginning, though, that's what we thought was going to be our really our only option.	01:58:15
	And as we started going through plans and and this preliminary first design, we realized that.	01:58:22
	Oxnard and.	01:58:28
	Had a line that they no longer use they had abandoned several years earlier.	01:58:29
	So we reached out to them to see if they were interested in.	01:58:34
	Letting us have that line.	01:58:39
	A couple things we wanted to do was get permission.	01:58:42
	To go ahead and inspect that line to make sure that it was still viable.	01:58:45
	And then two.	01:58:49
	We were going to have to workout something with them in order for them to want to give us that line.	01:58:52
	Ultimately, they did.	01:58:58
	In July of last year, their council approved the sale of the line. It was $20,000 in change.	01:59:01
	Which they had determined to be the.	01:59:06
	Remaining undepreciated value of that line.	01:59:09
	Umm, so.	01:59:14
	That became.	01:59:15
	Our hose pipe which essentially that thing got taken through.	01:59:16
	Which was great because we knew with that line.	01:59:21
	It was installed already, so we didn't have to worry about anything else crossing in its way or doing anything we wouldn't be	01:59:24
	surprised with.	01:59:28
	Things nearly as much as if we would have tried to do it some other way.	01:59:32
	So there's the overhead shot of.	01:59:39
	The Winnemi Rd. in Ventura Rd.	01:59:41
	And you can see one of the things that were like as I was mentioning.	01:59:46
	All of the underground stuff that's there that would have posed a conflict.	01:59:50
	To try and get around and all these things that.	01:59:54
	Are at different heights.	01:59:57
	That.	01:59:59
	Could have very well been.	02:00:00
	Something that stopped what we wanted to do.	02:00:02
	But once we knew that, we had that line.	02:00:06
	We could then go ahead and decide.	02:00:09
	Here's how we got to get.	02:00:13
	From point A to point B now because we have use of something new.	02:00:15
	It's still required to bypass, which was done.	02:00:20
	We were able to use the existing line.	02:00:22
	The damage line.	02:00:25
	While we were still waiting to get some of the other things set up.	02:00:27
	Fortunately for us, it.	02:00:31
	Worked and we didn't have any other issues with that line while that was happening.	02:00:33
	Here you see this is.	02:00:43
	Running along the backside of the railroad in between Surfside Village and the railroad tracks there.	02:00:45
	That's the bypass that we ran above ground.	02:00:52
	And dumped into a manhole that's there within the park.	02:00:56
	So all of that million gallons a day was running through this pipe here.	02:01:00
	Again.	02:01:07
	Being able to do it the way we ended up doing it.	02:01:09
	Really.	02:01:12
	Caused, I think, the least amount of headache that we could have hoped for.	02:01:14
	So we had a couple of shutdowns that had to happen, which required us coordinating with the Navy base.	02:01:25
	In order to be able to.	02:01:32
	Get that work done.	02:01:35
	We got that done.	02:01:38
	And then?	02:01:39
	When the permanent.	02:01:40
	There's a bunch of moving parts going on at the same time.	02:01:42
	But ultimately we had another shutdown.	02:01:46
	That was.	02:01:49
	Go ahead and make the final tie Insurance which?	02:01:50
	Then would put that new line fully in service.	02:01:53
	Got a short clip on?	02:01:58
	Video here. That's the actual footage of.	02:01:59
	The pipe being pulled through the Oxnard well, now our line.	02:02:03
	Place.	02:02:10
	So.	02:02:20
	Voice Construction was our contractor.	02:02:22
	You know, we, we did a lot of.	02:02:26
	Planning with them.	02:02:27
	Setting up how we were going to get things where we're going to.	02:02:29
	Set materials at.	02:02:33
	When we were.	02:02:34
	Going to do some of these.	02:02:36
	Parts of the project.	02:02:38
	We had to do the tie insurance at night just simply because.	02:02:40
	It's way less flow that you're having to deal with.	02:02:43
	So they work with us on that.	02:02:46
	We went ahead and.	02:02:50
	Started going down Ventura Rd. pulling this line through and on that little blue.	02:02:53
	Circle on the bottom. There you see the white circle inside the blue circle that's.	02:02:59
	Kind of to show a different view of how.	02:03:03
	That pipe.	02:03:07
	Looks inside the other line.	02:03:08
	And then the end, we ended up filling that.	02:03:10
	Void space between the two.	02:03:12
	With the material that.	02:03:14
	Is there?	02:03:16
	So it's a.	02:03:17
	It's a lightweight.	02:03:19
	Concrete foam so.	02:03:20
	It'll give support to the other pipe and I'll keep.	02:03:23
	Our new line from moving so much inside that line.	02:03:26
	So.	02:03:30
	There you have some pictures. This is.	02:03:33
	I believe the final tie in.	02:03:36
	Right there in the middle of we had to shut down the entire intersection at Pleasant Valley and.	02:03:38
	And Ventura?	02:03:43
	To make sure that we could.	02:03:45
	Give the contractor.	02:03:47
	All the ability they needed to do what they needed to do.	02:03:50
	Again, a coordination with.	02:03:58
	The Navy base in order to make sure.	02:04:00
	We had to control.	02:04:02
	Their stations, too.	02:04:04
	To make sure that we had.	02:04:07
	The flow controlled enough so while all this was taking place.	02:04:10
	We had trucks big. I don't know if you saw him while the work was going on. We had.	02:04:14
	Big vacuum trucks where essentially we shut everything down and we had the trucks pulling all of that.	02:04:18
	Out from.	02:04:24
	Pumping stations.	02:04:25
	And then drove it around and down past so, and then they were emptying back into a manhole that was downstream.	02:04:27
	So that was all done mechanically with a truck, with several trucks.	02:04:33
	But again.	02:04:38
	That allowed this to go ahead and take place.	02:04:40
	Here you got.	02:04:45
	A list of the different people.	02:04:46
	Obviously, city of Oxnard.	02:04:48
	They work with us.	02:04:50
	We got that line from them, which was a tremendous help.	02:04:53
	Blois was our contractor. Elite was the contractor that did the initial failure when it happened.	02:04:57
	They made that repair.	02:05:03
	Patriot whereas.	02:05:05
	Vacuum trucks that.	02:05:07
	Work with us while we had the shutdowns.	02:05:09
	Confoam is the supplier of.	02:05:12
	A little foam there.	02:05:15
	That we have.	02:05:18
	We had soils, engineers and V5.	02:05:19
	Did some manhole rehab work on that?	02:05:22
	Where all these things tied in San Con Fam Con is a local supplier of pipes and.	02:05:25
	They did a great job working with Brian on.	02:05:32
	Sourcing things because some of these things were an odd size and it was very difficult to try and track down, but they work with	02:05:36
	Brian really well and.	02:05:40
	Made sure that we were able to get what we needed in order to make sure this thing.	02:05:45
	Repaired right?	02:05:48
	And then our initial.	02:05:50
	Inspection of the line.	02:05:53
	Of Oxnard's line to make sure that it was going to.	02:05:54
	Be useful for us.	02:05:57
	We had national plant services.	02:05:58
	Do that.	02:06:01
	I'm not going to read through all of that, but you can see it's been.	02:06:03
	Just short of a year from all of this when it first started, So where we are now?	02:06:07
	I don't know how long it would have taken if we had to go a different route that would have required.	02:06:13
	A lot more.	02:06:19
	Planning for sure.	02:06:21
	And setting up traffic and and diverting things that it would have.	02:06:23
	Been we wouldn't be sitting here today probably saying that it's done.	02:06:28
	And as you can see there it was finished.	02:06:35
	On the 21st.	02:06:38
	We originally thought it was going to take until April.	02:06:40
	But the contractor?	02:06:44
	Did a great job and with Brian's assistance.	02:06:47
	Kept everything moving and so we were able to complete it faster than we originally thought.	02:06:52
	We were going to be able to do.	02:06:57
	All in total it was 57 working days. There was three different night shifts.	02:07:00
	That had to be done in order to get some of this done. Which And when I say night, it's all night. It started 8:00 at night until.	02:07:05
	You know, 6:00 the next morning.	02:07:13
	We got the 4200 feet of line in place and with this particular material, it's supposed to last 100 years.	02:07:18
	So, umm.	02:07:27
	None of us will be.	02:07:28
	Around when?	02:07:30
	That lifespan ends for that pipe.	02:07:31
	Here I wanted to point out all the people and partnerships that made this project a success.	02:07:38
	Charles Cable, who's sitting over there?	02:07:45
	Him and his engineering group.	02:07:48
	And and Brian as well.	02:07:50
	Did a bunch of brainstorming to figure out how to get all this done.	02:07:53
	We would all get in the room and and discuss different ideas that each of us had and.	02:07:58
	Charles, his team put it all together.	02:08:04
	Brian who was out there?	02:08:07
	From the beginning to the end.	02:08:10
	Juan Diaz, he just recently retired last week.	02:08:14
	Jim Chase, Don Phillips, Rosendo Jimenez.	02:08:18
	Stephen Elmcrance. Oscar Soto.	02:08:22
	And Tanacio Lopez.	02:08:25
	Chris Bates and Raymond Gutierrez, all those people were involved almost.	02:08:28
	Daily with what was going on because.	02:08:35
	Different things came up.	02:08:37
	And all these people got together and stepped in when we needed to.	02:08:39
	And then our partnerships.	02:08:44
	City Council.	02:08:47
	Originally we came and asked City Council to.	02:08:48
	Use your authority to grant this.	02:08:52
	The ability to have.	02:08:55
	The city manager.	02:08:56
	Get that?	02:08:59
	Get that moving as quickly as possible.	02:09:00
	I without that it would have been a much different process.	02:09:03
	Our attorney's office.	02:09:08
	Joan and Tara.	02:09:10
	Crafted the agreements that we ended up using.	02:09:12
	To work with Oxnard.	02:09:16
	The city of Oxnard themselves.	02:09:18
	Decided that that was a good thing for them as well.	02:09:22
	And let us have use of that line.	02:09:25
	The naval base.	02:09:28
	Big coordination with them.	02:09:30
	They are half of the flow that goes down that pipe so.	02:09:32
	They oftentimes it's difficult to get.	02:09:37
	Access to.	02:09:41
	Numerous people that needed to be on the base in order for this to happen.	02:09:43
	And they worked with us to make sure that we got that access.	02:09:46
	Surfside Village Homeowners Association.	02:09:50
	They were disrupted.	02:09:53
	Quite a bit with a lot of the work that's going on. Mr. Scribner was very cooperative with us.	02:09:55
	Brian and he spoke a lot.	02:10:01
	Brian kept him up to date on what was going to go on and how it was going to affect them.	02:10:04
	Our contractor blois the port of Wynnie me.	02:10:10
	Who we gave notifications to.	02:10:14
	And they were letting their truck traffic know what was going on. It was going to affect them somehow and if they could avoid our	02:10:16
	area while we were doing certain things.	02:10:20
	So they work well with this.	02:10:24
	The railroad.	02:10:26
	Obviously.	02:10:28
	They gave us use of that easement to put the temporary line in and one I didn't put on there.	02:10:29
	But I will mention the PD when we did that final connection.	02:10:34
	We were afraid that we might get some people that were going to be.	02:10:38
	Anxious and maybe try and go around our traffic control.	02:10:43
	So they let us use one of their.	02:10:46
	Patrol cars and set it out there.	02:10:49
	And.	02:10:51
	Brian said that he noticed there was a couple of times that looked like people might want to.	02:10:53
	Try and do something but then they noticed the unit sitting there and so they decided to follow directions so.	02:10:57
	And this last one again.	02:11:05
	Special thanks to Brian. I mean he.	02:11:08
	Very smart guy, very dedicated.	02:11:12
	You know, he thinks out-of-the-box. He's not afraid to make decisions and.	02:11:16
	Without him, I.	02:11:21
	Don't know that it would have gone as well as it did.	02:11:23
	So special recognition.	02:11:26
	To Brian.	02:11:28
	And if you have any questions.	02:11:32
	We'd be remiss if we didn't mention to that.	02:11:36
	The the old pipe that failed on us.	02:11:39
	We abandoned it in place and we filled it with that console and stuff. That's that little ball that goes around. So that pipe is	02:11:41
	no longer an empty pipe. It's full of that COM foam. So there's no.	02:11:46
	Potential subsidences or sinkholes or bellies in the in the in the ground from it failing in the future. So that's.	02:11:52
	Important.	02:12:00
	Great. Thank you. Thank you.	02:12:02
	Are there any questions?	02:12:04
	Questions. Congratulations and thank you.	02:12:05
	Go ahead.	02:12:08
	Let's take let's take some questions first.	02:12:09
	Anyway, my question is this.	02:12:12
	All that dirt.	02:12:17
	Like 20 feet high.	02:12:19
	Right across from where we live.	02:12:22
	Who?	02:12:25
	Inspecting the dirt, is a dirt contaminated or is it way to dump it?	02:12:26
	Over there.	02:12:31
	We were using that and we'll be removing that dirt as well. We were using it as a storage area.	02:12:33
	Because we needed to be able to. When we dug the, we had several pits that were dug in order for access for the.	02:12:38
	Contractor to be able to.	02:12:47
	What they call launch the pipe in. So they set it up so that dirt was dirt that came out of holes.	02:12:49
	The water department, so I.	02:13:00
	OK, but my question is I asked about the.	02:13:05
	OK, the reason I'm saying this because.	02:13:08
	I said.	02:13:11
	The 50 gallon.	02:13:13
	Barrel of chemicals.	02:13:15
	OK. All right. Thank you. I think I got it on video.	02:13:23
	OK. Well, what we'll do is we'll have somebody from our team follow up with you. We're trying to clean that area, but we'll have	02:13:26
	somebody follow up with you.	02:13:29
	Who knows what kind of bacteria or diseases and germs are in the Yeah, we're, we're working on cleaning it up, so we'll connect	02:13:35
	with you.	02:13:40
	Video of all of that.	02:13:46
	We'll come talk to you.	02:13:48
	Well, that's my question.	02:13:49
	Great.	02:13:53
	Somebody see what kind of chemicals? Thank you.	02:13:54
	Kind of junk you're putting underneath it.	02:13:57
	Yes, go right ahead, right.	02:14:00
	So just so you're aware.	02:14:02
	The dirt that we did pull over there with Boys Construction.	02:14:04
	Pits that we could like, Fred said. Pits that we created, that wasn't any sewer that was being.	02:14:08
	There because it was empty the trucks.	02:14:14
	The trucks that you saw there were cleaned and then utilized to vacuum the dirt and put back up on top.	02:14:16
	OK. Thank you. Thank you so much.	02:14:26
	All right. Thank you so much, Mr. Brown for your question, City Manager said.	02:14:31
	They're going to get back with you and answer some of those questions. Council members, do you have any questions?	02:14:36
	Councilmember Gama.	02:14:42
	So I believe it was under budget and ahead of schedules.	02:14:44
	We haven't got all of the invoices in yet and we do have credits that we were able to return stuff on. So until we.	02:14:48
	Get you feeling good though? Yes, I think so. Under budget.	02:14:55
	Authorized to get the project done, definitely ahead of schedule. And I think the other key thing is if you recall the thing we	02:15:01
	really were the most worried about when we found this.	02:15:05
	Was the idea of shutting down traffic?	02:15:10
	For residents, businesses, visitors, everybody during the summer and people wouldn't be able to, you know, people trying to go to	02:15:13
	the beach or any of the stores wouldn't be able to do it so.	02:15:17
	I think the timing of it being done, being done overnight.	02:15:23
	In the winter versus midday in the summer, having lane shutdowns and things like that, we're very happy with the.	02:15:26
	The timing and and how it was done faster than we thought and with less impact than we.	02:15:34
	Feared. Yeah, that would just like to end on saying I have complete confidence in Brian and you.	02:15:39
	And I know that you would not do anything that put yourselves in jeopardy or our community.	02:15:45
	And sometimes our eyes tell us different things that we're seeing. But again, I have complete confidence in what you guys do. I	02:15:50
	know you're professional and.	02:15:55
	By the rules.	02:16:01
	Thank you. Great. Thank you. Any other comments, Mayor Pro Tem?	02:16:03
	So I saw that you guys did these in sections, So what was the longest?	02:16:07
	Distance. You guys actually drug the new line?	02:16:11
	1000 feet.	02:16:16
	And then did you guys borescope?	02:16:17
	The line the.	02:16:19
	The Oxnard line to see if there was any rust that would.	02:16:21
	You know, damage the new language as you guys are dragging it through.	02:16:26
	So the old line was 24 inches.	02:16:31
	Our new line is 16 inches, so we had a lot of space there.	02:16:34
	We did. We did televise that ahead of time 1st to make sure that it was.	02:16:38
	Completely whole that we could utilize that line before we even discussed, you know the possibility of purchasing it. OK, so you	02:16:42
	guys check the viability of the line prior.	02:16:46
	So I know during the start of that project.	02:16:51
	It was like a week or two weeks into it there a sinkhole developed.	02:16:54
	During the process.	02:17:00
	No, there's the sinkhole in front of City Hall.	02:17:02
	When the first pipe failed.	02:17:05
	Also, that was the first.	02:17:07
	Failure that we encountered that.	02:17:09
	Told us we needed to look quickly and and.	02:17:11
	Remediating the system. So. OK, yeah.	02:17:14
	OK, that's all I had.	02:17:17
	But great job.	02:17:19
	Through the whole team.	02:17:20
	Council Member Hernandez, thank you, Mayor, thank you both.	02:17:22
	Well, all of you and all your workers who did a fabulous job, really fascinating work you did out there in the workarounds that	02:17:25
	you.	02:17:29
	You made around the broken sewer pipe. I do notice that you have and on the consent agenda.	02:17:33
	A request for this video inspection truck correct?	02:17:41
	How would it that that truck have helped you?	02:17:45
	In.	02:17:48
	Particular project.	02:17:49
	It would have helped in the initial.	02:17:51
	Inspection of the Oxnard line.	02:17:54
	If we would have had.	02:17:57
	Prior, we would have been able to do that ourselves. In this instance, we had to hire a contractor to come in and perform that	02:17:58
	work for us.	02:18:02
	OK.	02:18:07
	And then?	02:18:08
	Knowing the life.	02:18:09
	The shelf life of some of the plumbing and that runs underneath us.	02:18:11
	Are there any other areas that we might see this happen again?	02:18:16
	Hopefully not. We do know that we've got some.	02:18:22
	Areas in the system that have not been completely addressed yet we've.	02:18:26
	With our wastewater master plan, we have.	02:18:31
	Essentially completed like 90% of it.	02:18:35
	Some of the things that we still have to do will be.	02:18:38
	Things.	02:18:41
	That are related to rehabilitating.	02:18:43
	Some of those.	02:18:46
	This that agenda item will be something that will use the tool to help do that and I will also be able to use that.	02:18:48
	We know that we have storm rings that are getting old too.	02:18:54
	And so that will be.	02:18:58
	Way that we'll be able to use that equipment.	02:19:01
	To assess the condition of other lines I remember.	02:19:04
	Few years ago with a Perkins.	02:19:08
	Project. I thought that was a big deal for you guys in the work you did around that, but this was massive.	02:19:10
	I mean it covered a number of corners and intersections and.	02:19:17
	You guys did a fabulous job. Thank you so much and offer my congratulations to Juan for his retirement.	02:19:21
	Please. OK. Thank you. Hopefully he stays in touch with us.	02:19:28
	Mayor, can I just add to?	02:19:32
	To Mr. Kim Rio's comments.	02:19:34
	The uh.	02:19:37
	A couple of things I just want to.	02:19:39
	Mentioned there is the.	02:19:41
	I think we have good master plans and we're on top of things, but.	02:19:43
	I always take the opportunity where 75 year old city and so when the question starts to be asked of do we have things that are	02:19:48
	going to fail, that's about when things start to fail.	02:19:52
	So I think that's where we are trying to make sure we plan for it, budget it because we.	02:19:56
	We're at the age where.	02:20:02
	As a city.	02:20:03
	We need to make sure we're taking care of our infrastructure before before those major failures.	02:20:05
	And so when we come back and talk about the budget, we'll talk about some of those things. And then that ties in exactly into the	02:20:11
	conversation, though, about the closed caption.	02:20:15
	TV truck.	02:20:18
	Because one reason why the reason why we're moving forward with proposing purchasing that truck is because.	02:20:20
	We expect.	02:20:26
	That pretty soon the cost to contract will exceed the cost of having our own truck because of all the infrastructure projects we	02:20:28
	have. So it's kind of.	02:20:32
	The analysis we made at this point was that we're at the point where it's cheaper to buy the trucker sells so.	02:20:38
	Are more efficient, I should say.	02:20:43
	So I just wanted to add that.	02:20:45
	In SO, thank you.	02:20:47
	Yes, just want to say thank you. I remember early on when we started talking about the work was coming.	02:20:50
	That the topic.	02:20:56
	Was discussed in the Gold Coast transit meeting because of the fear of.	02:20:59
	Possibly hindering the bus lines.	02:21:04
	And so I will tell you that after that one time, I never heard the topic again.	02:21:08
	And I'd also like to just share my.	02:21:12
	I guess my.	02:21:16
	Expectation, knowing the work that was being done and then coming out and not seeing.	02:21:18
	Too much.	02:21:25
	Traffic.	02:21:28
	Or, umm.	02:21:29
	Just didn't see a lot of what was going on after hours. So I so appreciate the planning and the coordination between all the	02:21:31
	companies that supported this effort and specifically thank you from our residents.	02:21:38
	Because you all.	02:21:44
	Coming up with a plan that you had and the way that you worked around it, I'm sure you put a lot of our residents at ease as well.	02:21:46
	So thank you. Thank you so much for that. I appreciate it.	02:21:51
	Is there anything else? No.	02:21:56
	You did a good job.	02:21:58
	If nothing.	02:21:59
	Thank you so much. Again. Thank you, Brian.	02:22:00
	OK, so now we're going to recess from the City Council meeting and call to order.	02:22:06
	The Housing Authority regular meeting.	02:22:14
	The time is now 751.	02:22:17
	Not sure if I needed to do that.	02:22:19
	It's 751.	02:22:21
	And so, Madam Clerk, can we take a roll call, please, Member Blackwell.	02:22:23
	Here, Member Brown.	02:22:28
	Member Gama. Member Hernandez here. Member Perez here.	02:22:30
	Vice Chair Lopez.	02:22:34
	And Chair McQueen Lejeune here.	02:22:36
	And we will now hear public comments not relating to the agenda. Madam Clerk, are there any public comments?	02:22:39
	No public comments for Housing Authority. Great, thank you.	02:22:46
	We will now consider items on the consent calendar which will be enacted in one motion unless their authority member would like to	02:22:49
	pull.	02:22:53
	An item. Is there any items to be pulled?	02:22:57
	If not, is there a motion and a second?	02:23:01
	Move to approve.	02:23:03
	Thank you, Madam Clerk. Can we get a vote? All in favor? Aye. All opposed.	02:23:06
	Hearing none, motion passes unanimously.	02:23:11
	Great. Thank you. We have no business items and so we will move to.	02:23:14
	Ports I have a comment.	02:23:21
	OK, skip it.	02:23:23
	We're not there yet.	02:23:27
	We skipped an item that we just approved on the consent calendar.	02:23:29
	It we're on reports for and comments. So Mr. Brown, if you have a comment, you're welcome to see it now.	02:23:33
	I'm sorry.	02:23:41
	You have a comment, Go right ahead.	02:23:42
	Yeah. I just want to bring up that.	02:23:44
	Mr. Brown, I'm sorry, can he speak into the mic?	02:23:48
	Oh, I'm sorry.	02:23:51
	There's a big sign there that says.	02:23:53
	Parking for residents only.	02:23:55
	It's about this big.	02:23:58
	OK.	02:24:00
	We need to go to the store.	02:24:02
	Somebody in the public home and takes our parking, you know.	02:24:05
	There are 60 units, only 22 parking.	02:24:09
	So most of us have crime outside.	02:24:12
	And we?	02:24:15
	A place apart, you know, and.	02:24:17
	So these people come in and they take our Perkins who are not part there.	02:24:20
	Either they don't read the sign.	02:24:25
	But they don't care.	02:24:27
	So I was just gonna ask.	02:24:28
	Maybe they can make the same bigger.	02:24:30
	Earth more colorful so.	02:24:33
	Other people that don't belong or when we keep coming in.	02:24:35
	We get the guys a fixer.	02:24:39
	Washing machines, The guy that fixed the elevator, the guy that comes to fix the TV.	02:24:41
	I mean everybody.	02:24:47
	They park in our spots when we move.	02:24:49
	OK, we can ask our team to follow up with you on that.	02:24:52
	So thank you. I just thought that.	02:24:55
	The solution I don't know.	02:24:58
	We'll take a look at it. Thank you, thank you, and thank you, Mr. Brown for your comment.	02:24:59
	And so we're going to move on to reports, comments, requests for future agenda items. So let's start with the member reports.	02:25:03
	Anyone have anything to report?	02:25:08
	No any other comments?	02:25:14
	I have a comment from someone who works in.	02:25:18
	Loans and real estate and deals with a lot of the area housing authorities and.	02:25:21
	They told me to pass along the message that our Housing Authority is a pleasure to work with.	02:25:26
	Compared to all other housing authorities in the county.	02:25:31
	Thank you for being easy to work with.	02:25:35
	Thank you. Thank you.	02:25:37
	OK. Any requests for future agenda items?	02:25:39
	Anyone. No, but I was going to make a comment. OK, go right ahead. I'm sorry.	02:25:44
	Mr. Brown.	02:25:49
	Talking about parking availability.	02:25:51
	All the time.	02:25:54
	Or relative to this weekend, because I know this weekend probably was.	02:25:55
	The robotics. OK, yeah.	02:26:02
	But my question is.	02:26:08
	Dropping the kids and.	02:26:16
	Showing them back and forth back.	02:26:19
	So the problem was more so on the weekend.	02:26:22
	OK.	02:26:27
	We couldn't even start.	02:26:29
	Half a block a week, but.	02:26:30
	OK. Thank you.	02:26:33
	Thank you.	02:26:35
	Thank you.	02:26:36
	Any request for future agenda items?	02:26:38
	OK, if there's nothing else, we'll adjourn the Housing port Winnie Housing Authority and the next meeting is scheduled for April	02:26:44
	7th at 6:30 PM.	02:26:49
	We will now convene to the Council.	02:26:54
	The regular City Council meeting the time is now 755.	02:26:56
	OK, we will now consider items on the consent calendar, which will be enacted in one motion unless a council member has requested	02:27:08
	to remove an item. Is there a request to move any items?	02:27:13
	If not, is there a motion?	02:27:19
	I have no request to remove an item, but I do have a request to see a picture of that CCTV video inspection truck at some point.	02:27:21
	I would love to see that.	02:27:28
	You guys are really good at showing your work and the pictures I just want to see.	02:27:30
	Move to approve.	02:27:36
	2nd.	02:27:39
	Madam Clerk, please take a vote.	02:27:40
	All in favor.	02:27:42
	Aye, all opposed.	02:27:43
	Hearing none, motion passes unanimously.	02:27:45
	OK, so we'll now move to our public hearing.	02:27:48
	#10 Electronic campaign statement and Fair Political Practice Commission filings. Madam Clerk, do we have proof of publication as	02:27:52
	required by law?	02:27:57
	And a complete file.	02:28:02
	Of reports and exhibits. Yes, Madam Mayor.	02:28:03
	Thank you. Will staff please present the report.	02:28:06
	Thank you.	02:28:09
	Just a brief report on this.	02:28:11
	The Fair Political Practices Commission has.	02:28:14
	Authorized cities to now begin allowing.	02:28:18
	Candidates.	02:28:22
	To file candidates and elected officials to file.	02:28:24
	Statements I.	02:28:28
	With electronic filing.	02:28:30
	It's just sort of moving into the 21st century and rather than having to come into.	02:28:33
	City Hall.	02:28:39
	And file.	02:28:41
	Paper and pen.	02:28:43
	Now there would be the ability to file electronically, which makes things.	02:28:45
	Should make things easier for candidates and elected officials to.	02:28:49
	To file in the future.	02:28:53
	But the requirement before we do that is.	02:28:56
	Basically each city who wants to do that?	02:28:58
	Has to.	02:29:01
	Approve, introduce, and approve an ordinance that allows.	02:29:03
	The city to do that and so.	02:29:08
	This item is simply an ordinance that is intended to allow us to begin taking those electronic.	02:29:10
	Filing electronic documents.	02:29:17
	So, umm.	02:29:19
	We are recommending that Council introduced the ordinance for first reading tonight and then we would be adopting it at our.	02:29:20
	Next meeting, but we are recommending that the Council.	02:29:28
	Introduce the ordinance tonight.	02:29:30
	And so thank you.	02:29:32
	Great. Thank you. Does council have Council have any questions for staff? And we're going to only take questions at this time. Any	02:29:34
	questions?	02:29:37
	I have a question.	02:29:41
	Yeah. Is there any restrictions on any of the?	02:29:43
	The forms that we cannot do.	02:29:46
	No restrictions.	02:29:52
	OK, so then we would be.	02:29:54
	Every FCC filing that we would do here for the city would be.	02:29:58
	Basically.	02:30:02
	Online digitally and that's you hit what I was going to say is like as long as it's an FPPC filing, OK.	02:30:04
	And I just wanted to clarify so.	02:30:12
	You will be signing the forms digitally and you can go ahead and do that as long as it's through like Adobe or DocuSign.	02:30:14
	As a digital secure signature, we don't have a filing system yet like net file, but if we had one in the future though, this	02:30:21
	ordinance that you would approve tonight would allow us to do that in the future. Should we consider that?	02:30:29
	So who would?	02:30:37
	If there's a state requirement for an FPC filing.	02:30:39
	That goes through the city 1st.	02:30:44
	How does that get directed?	02:30:46
	To the state.	02:30:48
	The Secretary of State, you only file one form with them and that's currently the form 410 and you file directly with them and	02:30:51
	that one is online.	02:30:55
	OK, umm.	02:30:59
	So like everything else, we we as the city would.	02:31:00
	Would file here through the City Clerk's department.	02:31:03
	OK, got it.	02:31:06
	Any other questions?	02:31:07
	All right, this Council have any way. We did that already.	02:31:09
	OK, so open. The public hearing is now open for public input. The time is now 8:00.	02:31:14
	Are there any public comments regarding this item? No public comments. Great.	02:31:22
	Will now close the public comment or the hearing. I will now.	02:31:27
	Close it at 8:00.	02:31:33
	Let's see. OK, so we have before us a recommendation to introduce an ordinance for first reading by title only waiving.	02:31:36
	Further reading of the ordinance entitled An Ordinance of the City Council of the City of Port Hueneme, CA.	02:31:43
	Amending Article 2, Chapter 6 of the Port Hueneme Municipal.	02:31:50
	Code by adding Part H regarding electronic campaign disclosure statements and fair political practice.	02:31:54
	Commission filing and find that the action is not a project as defined under the California Environmental Quality Act and takes	02:32:00
	such additional related action.	02:32:05
	That may be desirable.	02:32:11
	May I have a motion and a second?	02:32:13
	Move to approve.	02:32:16
	2nd.	02:32:17
	Is there any discussion?	02:32:18
	No discussion. Madam Clerk, can we take a vote, Councilmember Goma?	02:32:22
	Affirmative Councilmember Hernandez.	02:32:27
	Councilmember Perez yes, Mayor Pro Tem Lopez Yes, and Mayor McQueen leash on Yes. Motion passes unanimously.	02:32:30
	Thank you. We'll move to business item number 11.	02:32:37
	Regional Defense Partnership Committee appointments for 2025 and goals for Washington, DC.	02:32:41
	Advocacy trip.	02:32:46
	I'm over to you.	02:32:48
	City Manager, thank you.	02:32:50
	So this item is on the agenda.	02:32:52
	Because on January 6, 2025, the City Council appointed.	02:32:56
	Mayor Pro Tem Jess Lopez is the primary representative to the Regional Defense Partnership and Councilmember Laura Hernandez is	02:33:01
	the alternate representative.	02:33:05
	However, on February 3rd, we were notified by Mayor Pro Tem Lopez that due to a work related conflict of interest, he would be	02:33:10
	unable to serve.	02:33:14
	As the primary representative to the Regional Defense Partnership.	02:33:18
	So this item, we said at that time we'd bring an item back to council to allow the council to consider.	02:33:22
	The uh.	02:33:29
	The appointments to the Regional Defense Partnership.	02:33:30
	Umm, technically the primary representative would is now vacant and so that Council can decide whether to who to appoint in that	02:33:34
	position and whether to make any other changes.	02:33:38
	And then secondly, sort of related is.	02:33:45
	At that time, we also talked about the.	02:33:49
	The council authorized.	02:33:53
	Mayor McQueen Lejeune to attend the Washington, DC trip.	02:33:55
	But said.	02:33:59
	When the item came back that they would discuss the goals for that. Goals are talking points for the DC trip.	02:34:00
	So the Council may wish to discuss.	02:34:07
	That at this time.	02:34:10
	I will just note.	02:34:12
	We are hearing that some DC trips are being postponed right now because of all the.	02:34:14
	Changes.	02:34:19
	And maybe uncertainty going on right now in Washington, DC.	02:34:20
	So I'm not so.	02:34:25
	Some of the trips have been postponed. We're not sure yet if this trip.	02:34:29
	Is being postponed.	02:34:32
	OK, so so the council could discuss desired goals or talking points for the DC trip?	02:34:34
	So can I have a? Can I just make a comment or or?	02:34:42
	Because this seems like we're going to make a motion to a point.	02:34:46
	Right. And then we're going to have a discussion.	02:34:50
	But I wanted to comment why I.	02:34:53
	I resigned from sure.	02:34:55
	So as a federal employee.	02:34:57
	RDP.	02:35:04
	Goes through every Navy organization and I'm actually with fleet readiness.	02:35:06
	Via Navair.	02:35:11
	And there is a section that they do actually pass through a.	02:35:13
	My my organization.	02:35:18
	My whole goal was.	02:35:21
	During that transition or that trip to excuse myself?	02:35:22
	So I wouldn't advocate for my own.	02:35:28
	Organization, but.	02:35:30
	Just the optics of this.	02:35:32
	You know, I just didn't want to bring light to myself, so.	02:35:35
	I resigned from RDP.	02:35:38
	To ease everybody's mind that.	02:35:42
	I'm not going to be lobbying for.	02:35:44
	My my own organization. So I thought it would be.	02:35:47
	It was.	02:35:50
	It was the right thing to do.	02:35:51
	OK, so that that's my.	02:35:53
	That was my intention and thank you for sharing that. Appreciate.	02:35:55
	Let's go, Council.	02:36:00
	Member Perez, please. So it's my understanding the issue of the conflict has to do with the lobbying.	02:36:02
	Part only.	02:36:08
	So you would still be OK.	02:36:09
	To attend the meetings.	02:36:11
	Have an opinion at the meetings?	02:36:13
	Disseminate information, bring back information and and all that that is perfectly within.	02:36:15
	Yes. So then.	02:36:20
	I would recommend, I'm still, I mean if we're at that point, I would recommend that he stay on as the primary.	02:36:23
	For that purpose.	02:36:29
	Yeah.	02:36:30
	So can you just say that out loud again so it's clear?	02:36:32
	So because we don't know what the.	02:36:36
	The SO.	02:36:39
	Have been with your employers yeah, so the.	02:36:41
	I did go through legal counsel through the.	02:36:44
	U.S. Navy.	02:36:48
	And uh.	02:36:49
	Their recommendations was.	02:36:51
	The optics.	02:36:54
	Of.	02:36:55
	Someone could actually, you know, make an allegation.	02:36:57
	Whether it be?	02:37:02
	Frivolous, uh.	02:37:03
	Wouldn't be good, wouldn't be favorable to to me.	02:37:04
	And would bring light on my my employment so.	02:37:08
	It's just best that I.	02:37:14
	I continue to.	02:37:16
	You know, resign from the position and I thank you.	02:37:18
	Councilman Perez for.	02:37:23
	The uh.	02:37:25
	The vote of confidence.	02:37:26
	Councilmember Hernandez.	02:37:29
	Thank you, Mayor.	02:37:31
	And thank you, Mayor Pro Tem, for your integrity and understanding. You know that even though.	02:37:32
	We could find some.	02:37:37
	Justification for keeping you on.	02:37:39
	Sometimes the optics just.	02:37:41
	Aren't.	02:37:43
	Aren't in our favor.	02:37:45
	So thank you for that.	02:37:46
	I'm sorry that you can't serve, because I know that you would have served well.	02:37:48
	I also cannot.	02:37:52
	Jump into the primary position mainly because of my schedule.	02:37:53
	Otherwise I would offer to do that.	02:37:57
	I do plan to remain has the.	02:38:00
	Primary on the strategic.	02:38:04
	Meeting umm.	02:38:06
	So when we get to that part of discussing goals and objectives for the.	02:38:07
	DC trip which is still on. I will have a few things to say about that.	02:38:11
	But.	02:38:16
	Due to my schedule I can't do it, so I would just suggest that we.	02:38:17
	Ask Martha to.	02:38:21
	We reappoint her to that position because.	02:38:24
	I know that her schedule is demanding but I think we can work at something out because I'm her backup for VRSD.	02:38:28
	Where I can back her up?	02:38:34
	When she can't attend at VR SD.	02:38:37
	Hopefully I can I can do that because I know that's been an issue for you.	02:38:39
	So let me let me just say.	02:38:44
	Why Councilmember Hernandez mentioned VRSD when we're talking about RDP 21?	02:38:46
	And.	02:38:52
	That's because RDP is the first Thursday.	02:38:53
	Of the month at 7:30 AM.	02:38:57
	VSRD.	02:39:00
	VRSD.	02:39:04
	Yes, SD.	02:39:05
	Is.	02:39:06
	At 8:30.	02:39:07
	The 1st and 3rd Thursdays.	02:39:09
	So during my time on both.	02:39:12
	Committees.	02:39:16
	I have had to leave RDP.	02:39:17
	After 45 minutes to get to the second meeting.	02:39:20
	And so.	02:39:24
	I would continue to have to do that.	02:39:27
	To get to the 8:30 meeting.	02:39:29
	And so.	02:39:32
	I don't have a problem doing that.	02:39:33
	I umm.	02:39:36
	If you all remember.	02:39:39
	I'm the one that suggested that a mayor Pro Tem take that.	02:39:41
	And I knew he wanted to.	02:39:44
	And so I was willing to to give that up for that reason.	02:39:46
	But I also feel that it's important that we participate.	02:39:50
	And that.	02:39:53
	The meetings.	02:39:54
	That happen on monthly meetings actually lead up to.	02:39:57
	The trip to DC.	02:40:03
	So I think that's why it's important to have some continuity.	02:40:05
	In that.	02:40:07
	And so.	02:40:09
	I would be willing to do that, understanding that I will still have to leave the meeting early and the director of RDP knows that.	02:40:10
	So I'll go over to.	02:40:19
	Yeah, council member.	02:40:23
	So my understanding.	02:40:24
	With regard to the formation of RDP 21.	02:40:27
	Was when BRAC base closures were on the table.	02:40:30
	And that group came together to lobby.	02:40:33
	To keep.	02:40:36
	Naval Base Ventura County.	02:40:38
	In play.	02:40:41
	Obviously they've been successful.	02:40:42
	And.	02:40:45
	My opinion, my opinion only.	02:40:47
	I think we should be.	02:40:50
	More concerned about the issues facing the city of Port Hueneme.	02:40:52
	And I just don't see value.	02:40:55
	The big Navy is Navy is huge.	02:40:58
	I don't think they're going anywhere.	02:41:01
	So.	02:41:04
	It just seems like.	02:41:05
	They accomplished their mission.	02:41:08
	And I'm not willing to. I don't have the time.	02:41:10
	I won't have the time but.	02:41:14
	I don't want to be a part of of of the RDP 21.	02:41:17
	But I just think that.	02:41:20
	That we.	02:41:23
	What bothers me is we went to Washington.	02:41:26
	I didn't go to Washington, but.	02:41:29
	All my other colleagues went to Washington.	02:41:30
	And we still, you know, we still got this dredge problem that we can't seem to pin down, we can't get.	02:41:32
	The funding is there, but now we got the State Water Resource Board, we got the Army Corps engineers showing up late.	02:41:38
	And to me, that's our issue.	02:41:44
	That's the that's the only issue that we should be focusing on in Washington.	02:41:46
	Like I said, the Navy.	02:41:52
	You know, they got their priorities and.	02:41:53
	Anyway.	02:41:56
	I just want to see us never be in this situation.	02:41:57
	With our two year dredge cycle again, I think we.	02:42:01
	I think.	02:42:05
	I think it's.	02:42:07
	In an era of.	02:42:08
	Bringing daylight to wasteful.	02:42:10
	Spending.	02:42:13
	This expenditure, I can't think of any other federal expenditure.	02:42:15
	Which is more prudent? Justified value added?	02:42:20
	Non wasteful spending and yet.	02:42:25
	For some reason.	02:42:27
	Every two years we have to go through this.	02:42:29
	Dredging Dance.	02:42:31
	Beg, plead, and.	02:42:33
	For our sand.	02:42:34
	And just so you know, you know, we came up.	02:42:36
	1.4 million cubic yards short.	02:42:39
	And so then next, next meeting.	02:42:41
	We're going to try and figure out how to.	02:42:43
	Make up that deficit so.	02:42:46
	So when I think of Washington, I think address kind of veering off.	02:42:48
	Yeah, hold on just a second.	02:42:52
	I let Councilmember Hernandez go, yeah, I just wanted to know how we were going to proceed with the discussion on the goals that	02:42:54
	we're going to take to DC because I think.	02:42:59
	Do we need a motion now to recommend?	02:43:04
	That we reappoint, I would say, yeah, I would suggest starting with the motion for reappointment and then the goals.	02:43:07
	Make the motion to.	02:43:16
	Reappoint, Mayor, Doctor.	02:43:17
	McQueen Lejeune to rejoin the.	02:43:20
	Regional defense.	02:43:23
	Partnership.	02:43:25
	2nd.	02:43:27
	As primary. As primary, yes.	02:43:28
	OK. Any other discussion? Did you have something I did?	02:43:31
	To his point, to Councilman Gama's point.	02:43:36
	There is value.	02:43:40
	Some of those agencies are not able to advocate for their own, for themselves as their federal employees, federal organizations.	02:43:42
	An example.	02:43:49
	You know some of the roadblocks that they.	02:43:51
	They encounter.	02:43:53
	They're able to.	02:43:56
	RDPS able to lobby for them.	02:44:00
	We they brought.	02:44:02
	They brought the Coast Guard to Point Magoo, which was a huge win. Not only.	02:44:04
	Thinking about the base is.	02:44:09
	But some of the other activity that happens around in and around.	02:44:12
	Our city.	02:44:17
	Which brings.	02:44:18
	People brings revenue.	02:44:19
	So I see this as a great partnership.	02:44:21
	Our city is made-up of a lot of veterans.	02:44:26
	And they work on base.	02:44:28
	You bring more money into those bases, which creates jobs and opportunity.	02:44:33
	So I see this as a viable.	02:44:38
	Partnership.	02:44:41
	It's strategic.	02:44:42
	That's all.	02:44:44
	OK, great. Anyone else? Are we on goals now?	02:44:46
	Umm, we can definitely Let's go ahead and take can we take a vote on.	02:44:50
	Yes.	02:44:54
	OK, all in favor.	02:44:56
	Aye, all opposed.	02:44:58
	Hearing none, motion passes unanimously.	02:45:00
	Great.	02:45:04
	Did you have something?	02:45:05
	OK, so so now let's we can move to.	02:45:07
	The goals.	02:45:12
	Do we have that?	02:45:13
	We just need to look in our.	02:45:16
	Can I while you're doing that, can I comment so?	02:45:19
	In preparation for the trip to DC.	02:45:22
	They have begun installation meetings with a group going around to each installation.	02:45:25
	And discussing.	02:45:33
	Vulnerabilities points in areas where they need financial support.	02:45:37
	One of the places that we went to was Coast Guard and.	02:45:44
	The the Air Station that is there now providing services to our community and to the region is there as a result of RDP. So that's	02:45:50
	just one of the things that come out as a result of our visits to.	02:45:57
	To DC.	02:46:04
	Those.	02:46:06
	Those issues, those.	02:46:08
	Projects that we identify from these installation visits are put into a white paper.	02:46:10
	And then the white paper is our. Those are our.	02:46:15
	Our walking statements that we use when we go to visit.	02:46:19
	The uh.	02:46:23
	The base personnel, the representative secretaries of various departments there in DC.	02:46:24
	And.	02:46:31
	And discuss those. We discussed those items with them.	02:46:32
	Directly.	02:46:36
	So we're about done, I think with the installation visits. Marthas been the mayor, excuse me, has been attending those. I've	02:46:37
	attended a few.	02:46:41
	And then we have a meeting, a strategic meeting on Wednesday morning, which will come together and we'll.	02:46:45
	Assess where we are with our white papers and determine whether or not there's any additional issues that we want to take.	02:46:53
	To DC.	02:46:59
	So right now.	02:47:00
	We have the issues.	02:47:02
	Identified for most of the installations we.	02:47:04
	Umm, we can inject something that we want to add from the city's standpoint, so I hope that we can.	02:47:08
	Have that discussion here tonight.	02:47:15
	Here it.	02:47:18
	Herein lies my.	02:47:20
	Conflict here is like, you know, we should be advocating for our city.	02:47:22
	1st the time to discuss that right now. Well, thank you, thank you.	02:47:25
	And so.	02:47:29
	We're hearing about, you know, what the Navy needs, the Navy needs and what about our needs for our city?	02:47:30
	And I don't see RDP.	02:47:35
	21.	02:47:37
	Addressing our needs, I mean, I just.	02:47:38
	I'm speaking.	02:47:41
	Thank you.	02:47:44
	Anyway, so I just want to make the point that why need me first?	02:47:45
	We need to look after our city.	02:47:49
	Ten years ago.	02:47:51
	Maybe a little longer. We're watching Surfside Drive fall into the ocean.	02:47:53
	Completely preventable.	02:47:58
	And then, you know, we're going to go to Washington.	02:48:02
	What is our plan to speak to the stakeholders so we're never in that position again.	02:48:04
	This is the greatest example of.	02:48:10
	Non wasteful spending yet we.	02:48:12
	Seem to have a problem getting it.	02:48:15
	Getting it rolling every couple of years.	02:48:17
	And so that's my point.	02:48:19
	I don't ever want to be in a position that we are in right now.	02:48:20
	We have the funding.	02:48:24
	And there is a lobbying trip for that specific task.	02:48:28
	I think you're mixing. No, I'm not. I'm just telling you right now, RDP is not lobbying for that. It's lobbying for who's going to	02:48:32
	lobby for us, for ourselves. OK, so, so, OK, let's stop for a second. Take a breath one at a time so we can hear everyone's	02:48:38
	comments.	02:48:44
	So were you finished?	02:48:50
	Councilmember Gama with your comments.	02:48:52
	No, OK, go right ahead then I want to make the point.	02:48:55
	It's not Jermaine through the task. No, it's Jermaine. No, it's not. You know what? Hold on everyone. No, everyone stopped talking	02:49:01
	for a second.	02:49:06
	Mayor Pro Tem, Mayor, Councilmember Gama, finish your statement. When you finish, we're going to go to our mayor Pro Tem.	02:49:11
	For your comments, take your notes so you don't forget anything.	02:49:18
	And then we'll come. No point of order, Point of order. What is your point? My point of order is that when we're having these	02:49:21
	discussions, they are time sensitive. We should only spend a limited time making our point. And if the person doesn't have	02:49:28
	anything different to say, then we move on. Great. Your point, your point is taken. Counselor Mcgama, please.	02:49:35
	Ask your questions or make your comments so we can move forward.	02:49:42
	My point?	02:49:46
	Is.	02:49:47
	We need to put the needs of Winemi first when we go to Washington.	02:49:48
	OK, yes. And my point is?	02:49:52
	That we should not ever be in the situation that we're in today.	02:49:56
	And if we're going to Washington, I haven't gotten.	02:50:01
	Everyone else up here is gone and we still come up short with this.	02:50:03
	Dredging thing which irritates me to no end.	02:50:07
	Noted. Noted. Thank you.	02:50:11
	Very much.	02:50:13
	Again.	02:50:16
	You're talking about dredging?	02:50:18
	And we're talking about RDP.	02:50:21
	It's it's it's council member Gama you spoke.	02:50:23
	So there is a there. There is other DC trips that actually are.	02:50:27
	Can be specifically targeted for that.	02:50:34
	That was my only point.	02:50:37
	Thank you, Councilmember Hernandez. Yes, so.	02:50:39
	There are.	02:50:42
	The reason that we collaborate with the port and we collaborate with the Navy base.	02:50:44
	Over the dredging is because they are in the same boat we are.	02:50:49
	They don't share the funding that we get through the.	02:50:54
	The county. The county is.	02:50:59
	The lead agency for the dredging that we benefit from, from the sand that we get.	02:51:01
	It comes from Channel Islands Harbor. It's funded.	02:51:06
	Through the Army Corps of Engineers.	02:51:10
	And they put that sand on our beach.	02:51:12
	Which they hope and we hope travels down to the Navy base.	02:51:14
	The Navy base may or may not benefit from that sand.	02:51:18
	So they have their own pocket of money that they where they get money to build resentments.	02:51:22
	And do whatever they need to protect their infrastructure.	02:51:28
	The port has their own pot of money.	02:51:33
	That they use to.	02:51:35
	Dredge the.	02:51:37
	The port area so that they can.	02:51:39
	Continue the navigation of the ships. So there's three pockets of money we're just.	02:51:42
	I know that Mister Gomez just talking about.	02:51:48
	The dredging project affecting our beaches.	02:51:51
	When we go to Washington, DC, we do sit in Julia Brownlee's office. I believe I said this at the last meeting.	02:51:53
	We do sit down with Julia Brownlee and we have an opportunity.	02:51:59
	To thank her first of all.	02:52:03
	Not to say she's ineffective.	02:52:05
	Not to tell the Army Corps of Engineers that they're ineffective. We thank them.	02:52:07
	For the work that they're doing.	02:52:13
	In finding the money, getting the funding.	02:52:15
	And.	02:52:19
	Making these projects occur every two years. What happened this year?	02:52:20
	Was not a result of lack of funding.	02:52:24
	That was something else, as the city manager explained.	02:52:27
	But that doesn't mean we're not going to go and again.	02:52:30
	Reinforce our message about the importance.	02:52:33
	Of the dredging project to our beach.	02:52:37
	When we go, we have Supervisor VNA Lopez in the room, We have the county's legislative analyst in the room.	02:52:39
	We have.	02:52:46
	Port of Winami, City of Port Hueneme, which is the beneficiary of the sent in the room.	02:52:48
	And we make that very clear that we are very appreciative of the sand and we would like to see that continue.	02:52:53
	So when I go to our meeting on Wednesday.	02:52:58
	And we talked to the strategic.	02:53:02
	Committee about what items the city would like.	02:53:05
	To include in our.	02:53:08
	White papers or in our discussions with Julia Brownlee and.	02:53:10
	Salute Carbajal.	02:53:16
	I will mention I will make sure that that is on the list.	02:53:19
	If there's anything in addition that you would like.	02:53:23
	Us to say or like the Martha to say because I'm not going this year.	02:53:26
	Then perhaps we can put something in writing.	02:53:31
	To explain what happened this year.	02:53:34
	Umm, see if there's ways that we can prevent that from happening again, but we never get any guarantees, especially with the.	02:53:38
	The chaos that's happening right now at the federal level.	02:53:48
	Expecting.	02:53:51
	A guarantee that we're going to get what we're asking for.	02:53:53
	With the political climate that is occurring right now is.	02:53:57
	We have to manage our expectations there. I don't think that we can expect that.	02:54:01
	OK, let me go around first before we get to you, Councilmember Perez. Yes, I think there is a good list right here that's already	02:54:05
	been mentioned and I think these.	02:54:10
	Five adding.	02:54:14
	The dredging on there would be a good start. As to our recommendations to what we should focus on, great. I just wanted to say one	02:54:15
	thing.	02:54:19
	So I just want to, and I've said this before, so I just want to reiterate it.	02:54:23
	So.	02:54:29
	I think that.	02:54:30
	As the Council of the City of Port Hueneme.	02:54:31
	We, we under some of us, we, we understand that RDP is going to predominantly or specifically talk about military.	02:54:36
	We know that the porch trip is is.	02:54:43
	You know, specifically to talk about port needs.	02:54:46
	I think what we need to do as a city is to.	02:54:49
	Determine how our needs.	02:54:52
	Align also with some of the things that were already.	02:54:55
	Going to be talking about so that we weave.	02:54:59
	Our needs into.	02:55:02
	The message that let's say the military, so one of the things that I had mentioned earlier is.	02:55:04
	So the last time we went, we heard information of how if you're connected to a military facility then you might have opportunity	02:55:09
	for grants.	02:55:13
	That the military have because we have things that connect with the military.	02:55:18
	Roads, infrastructure, maybe the electrical system. So there's there's.	02:55:22
	We just have to be really smart about how we tie in.	02:55:26
	What we would like to add to the trips?	02:55:30
	I don't think it's appropriate for us to go with RDP, which is the regional defense partnership, to talk about military and we're	02:55:33
	talking about the city of Port Hueneme without military discussion.	02:55:38
	So I think we have to learn how to tie ourselves into.	02:55:44
	What's being?	02:55:47
	Focused on as relates to the port and as it relates to the military and I agree with you 100% and.	02:55:49
	The lack of dredging. Let's just say if we have 0 dredging for two years, which.	02:55:57
	As it stands right now, that's what it's looking like, but we'll talk about that later, but.	02:56:04
	The port.	02:56:08
	The Navy.	02:56:09
	The city of Port Hueneme potentially can be catastrophically affected.	02:56:11
	And This is why I said.	02:56:16
	This is the greatest example of prudent, reasonable.	02:56:19
	Good spending.	02:56:24
	The opposite of wasteful spending.	02:56:26
	And so.	02:56:28
	My hope is that all the interested parties, the Navy, the port, the city.	02:56:30
	Can agree.	02:56:35
	And as well as the county Julia Brownlee's office.	02:56:36
	This is essential spending.	02:56:40
	This can't. We need to. As it stands right now, there's a 38,000,000 cubic yard cubic.	02:56:43
	Yards of sand deficits. Look at the sand dunes over there. They're.	02:56:50
	3040 feet tall, you know, and then over here we're we're up at the wall. So that that's thank you so I think we.	02:56:53
	We have an opportunity to tie it together.	02:57:00
	And it should be tied together because if a catastrophic event failure would occur, it's going to affect all three of us. And I'm	02:57:03
	just going to close with myself, close with this.	02:57:07
	Councilmember Gamma.	02:57:12
	I'm hoping that you don't believe.	02:57:14
	That, uh.	02:57:16
	Dredging is important to the rest of the Council.	02:57:17
	Because I think it's important to all of us.	02:57:20
	We might not talk about it like you talk about it.	02:57:23
	But it's important to all of us is for the sustainability.	02:57:26
	Of our city, and we know that.	02:57:30
	So I just want you to know that while we may not speak about it like you do.	02:57:33
	I believe it's important to all of us.	02:57:37
	That we get the replenishment of the sand that we need.	02:57:40
	For our city.	02:57:43
	And so I really want you to know that.	02:57:44
	And because the conversations feels like.	02:57:48
	And by the way, there's more than one important thing.	02:57:51
	That we have, as a city, need to pay attention to.	02:57:55
	So it is dredging and it's.	02:57:58
	Other things as well.	02:58:00
	So it's not just one thing.	02:58:02
	So we can look at multiple things.	02:58:04
	And try to figure out how we're going to be successful.	02:58:07
	At multiple things.	02:58:09
	Not just one thing.	02:58:10
	So anyway, so we're going to move.	02:58:12
	I'd like to go back to.	02:58:16
	Councilwoman Perez comments on the goals that are listed here.	02:58:18
	These are all very good goals and I think that we can agree to support them. However, some of these.	02:58:25
	Don't belong with RDP as much as they belong with that of the other military organization that we joined.	02:58:31
	Last year.	02:58:39
	Communities of.	02:58:41
	Military, uh.	02:58:43
	Bases, What's the You are the primary? I'm the alternate. What is the Association of Defense Community? The Association of Defense	02:58:45
	Communities. I think that's a better forum.	02:58:49
	For addressing some of these issues.	02:58:54
	Such as?	02:58:57
	Traffic improvements bringing the base and city communities together.	02:58:58
	Collaborating support service. Well actually no, that does go to RDP.	02:59:05
	So we have to decide, you know?	02:59:10
	Which ones you want to go to RDP and which ones we go to?	02:59:13
	Communities, yeah. And, and we didn't walk through these, but those goals were our city adopted goals in partnership with the Navy	02:59:18
	as a whole.	02:59:22
	So I do think maybe item 1:00 and 2:00 on that list probably are not appropriate for RDP.	02:59:26
	345 and dredging.	02:59:33
	Maybe ones that are?	02:59:36
	More appropriate for RDP for.	02:59:37
	Council to consider.	02:59:39
	And then would it be possible?	02:59:42
	In case they ask on Wednesday.	02:59:44
	To get a written description of what occurred this year regarding the dredging.	02:59:47
	Maybe the county has. Yes we we wrote a letter to.	02:59:53
	With Congresswoman Brownlee's office a couple months ago, where we laid out, I believe we laid out.	02:59:58
	Sort of the problems that we were running into.	03:00:04
	So I think even just we could just provide that and I think it has the background. I didn't see that letter. I would like to see	03:00:06
	that, yeah.	03:00:10
	OK.	03:00:14
	This will be on our next meeting agenda, right? Debrief on that this year's dredge cycle process and where we go in the future. A	03:00:18
	dredge, Yes, we'll be on the next agenda.	03:00:23
	Any.	03:00:30
	Any other comments is there?	03:00:30
	Are we? Is the expectation tonight city manager that we will identify?	03:00:36
	Areas that we want to.	03:00:41
	The item allows for that to be done tonight.	03:00:44
	It's up to council whether.	03:00:47
	You're you're ready to do that tonight.	03:00:50
	Councilmember on traffic.	03:00:52
	When I was a little kid, I remember all the base gates were open.	03:00:56
	Now they only have Pleasant Valley and the main gate, and there's that one gate that's never utilized.	03:01:00
	I'm not a traffic engineer, but I wonder if we could.	03:01:06
	Ask would that help?	03:01:10
	Traffic is forcing everyone through the main gate and then also I noticed that.	03:01:12
	Sometimes they close Pleasant Valley and sometimes they have.	03:01:17
	Victoria closed.	03:01:20
	You know, we have grown quite a bit. There's a lot of traffic needs, but.	03:01:23
	I've never understood that because.	03:01:26
	Back when I was coming and winning me Christian as a fifth grader.	03:01:28
	That gate was always working.	03:01:32
	It's for security.	03:01:35
	Doesn't allow it.	03:01:37
	And that's what we always hear, security.	03:01:39
	You know.	03:01:41
	But they they have to control the.	03:01:43
	Points of entry.	03:01:45
	Well, that would be a point of entry and they could control it.	03:01:47
	It's just that quite, you know.	03:01:50
	I mean, are you looking for a motion?	03:01:52
	So yeah, so I'm looking for.	03:01:54
	Any options that you all might have?	03:01:57
	As to do we want to pick?	03:01:59
	Some from this list.	03:02:02
	345 and 6345 and 6.	03:02:04
	With six being tragic.	03:02:06
	And six, is dredging OK?	03:02:09
	Any other comments?	03:02:11
	So yeah, my comments are that on Wednesday when I have this meeting, I will share.	03:02:12
	The.	03:02:18
	Number 3-4 or five and the dredging.	03:02:20
	With the committee, but these the 3-4 and five is somehow going to have to align with.	03:02:23
	I'm going to have to have some specifics on what it is that we want to lobby for.	03:02:29
	And we'll also have to see if it aligns with.	03:02:35
	With what we're taking.	03:02:39
	Already. Umm.	03:02:40
	So #3 does. Specifically, the last sentence calls out.	03:02:41
	Streets, water, wastewater, other resources are mutually beneficial. Yeah. So they actually our visit last year produced the	03:02:45
	monies for that huge wastewater project in the Conejo.	03:02:52
	Yeah, great. Yeah.	03:02:58
	We include we including #2.	03:03:00
	Know that we've I think that goes with the association of defense communities.	03:03:04
	Because when I look at #2 I think about opportunities for grants, cooperation with the port, perhaps with the Navy.	03:03:11
	Communities.	03:03:18
	And I don't know if you're going to go into, there's that one.	03:03:21
	Last group that we met with last year.	03:03:25
	Where they had some opportunities to work with the.	03:03:27
	Universities that might that might work.	03:03:31
	The traffic, I don't know if that traffic improvements.	03:03:35
	Would be an issue that.	03:03:38
	You could raise their.	03:03:39
	I don't know, you'd have to.	03:03:42
	Yeah, I think, yeah, so.	03:03:44
	I think once we if we can come up with some areas.	03:03:47
	Then we might need to look further.	03:03:50
	Deeper and say OK now.	03:03:52
	Now that we know, we're going to be partnering with RDP.	03:03:55
	What should it be?	03:03:59
	You know, so it might not be written as it's written now.	03:04:01
	In there, we might have to do some further discussion.	03:04:04
	Identify.	03:04:07
	So anything else? So I heard you say 3456.	03:04:09
	345 and the dredging which is would be 6, yeah.	03:04:13
	Or so.	03:04:17
	Let's take.	03:04:19
	Is there a motion and a second for that?	03:04:20
	Move to approve items 345 and 6.	03:04:25
	2nd.	03:04:28
	OK.	03:04:31
	So let's do it this way.	03:04:32
	Can we get a vote on that?	03:04:34
	Aye, OK, All opposed. Sorry hearing none. Motion passes unanimously.	03:04:38
	OK, umm.	03:04:43
	So.	03:04:45
	I wanted to get that out of the way, so we voted for that.	03:04:46
	So what are you thinking with #2?	03:04:49
	I just want to know.	03:04:51
	I don't want to just kind of go by it.	03:04:53
	Recently with the.	03:04:58
	For what I heard is that.	03:05:00
	There's a since the federal workforce has been.	03:05:02
	Asked to come back to work.	03:05:06
	That traffic has increased tremendously here, and I think I've noticed that most of us may have.	03:05:08
	So in #2 you know how?	03:05:14
	Can we?	03:05:17
	Discuss with our partners, the Navy, the port.	03:05:19
	To address traffic, maybe there's opportunities for grants that the three of us can benefit from.	03:05:22
	But I don't understand.	03:05:30
	How we get the three of us to work on that together? Yeah. And so my question to you would be we just we just voted on.	03:05:33
	Three through 6.	03:05:41
	To try to take to DC.	03:05:43
	Do you think we would need to go to DC for number 2?	03:05:45
	Or could we do that in partnership here?	03:05:48
	My understanding is you have to go to San Diego first.	03:05:51
	That's my understanding is that.	03:05:55
	San Diego controls the space, and so we have to.	03:05:57
	Figure out who to talk to in San Diego to get on the same page as with.	03:06:01
	Their host city.	03:06:06
	And then try to.	03:06:07
	Work on traffic improvement.	03:06:08
	So that sounds like local partnership discussions, not something that we would need to go.	03:06:10
	And sit with our legislators.	03:06:15
	To talk about.	03:06:18
	Can I make a suggestion that we discuss it?	03:06:20
	Under Item 4.	03:06:23
	14 when we talk about strategic.	03:06:24
	That's coming up OK.	03:06:29
	I'm OK with that. Everybody OK with that?	03:06:30
	Yeah, yeah, let's do it.	03:06:33
	All righty.	03:06:35
	OK.	03:06:40
	OK, let's go to number 12.	03:06:43
	Citizens Advisory Commission and Transactions Will staff please present the report?	03:06:45
	Yes, thank you.	03:06:50
	This item is on the agenda after we, the City Council, previously discussed it on January 21st.	03:06:52
	At that time.	03:07:01
	It was discussed as the appointments to the Measure U committee and the.	03:07:03
	Citizens Advisory Commission.	03:07:10
	Well, we had that discussion.	03:07:12
	It was.	03:07:15
	One of the.	03:07:17
	We had an applicant.	03:07:18
	One remaining applicant to the Measure U committee.	03:07:20
	That the Council was considering.	03:07:23
	That had already served 2 terms and.	03:07:26
	That led to a discussion of term limits and sort of a question from Council.	03:07:30
	Of why citizens advisory Commission has.	03:07:35
	Doesn't have term limits, but measure you committee does.	03:07:39
	What that history is and rationale so that the Council can.	03:07:42
	Consider whether a change should be made or whether that should be continued.	03:07:46
	So this report now looks deeper into the Citizen Advisory Commission and Measure U committee and the history of that.	03:07:51
	I think.	03:07:59
	Really. In summary.	03:08:01
	The city has a city code.	03:08:03
	That.	03:08:07
	Establishes Commission appointments and.	03:08:09
	Different regulations related to commissions.	03:08:13
	And.	03:08:17
	The Citizens Advisory Commission was established.	03:08:18
	In line with that.	03:08:22
	Code section which does not have.	03:08:24
	Term limit requirements.	03:08:26
	But later, when the city approved the Measure U committee in 2019.	03:08:29
	Um, my guess it wasn't really discussed thoroughly, but my guess is we probably.	03:08:36
	Fashioned it after other cities similar tax oversight committees.	03:08:41
	The the city decided to.	03:08:47
	Implement A2 year.	03:08:50
	Two term, 2 years per term with two term limits, so where somebody could only serve four years.	03:08:52
	And the only really real explanation was about the two years, but not the two terms.	03:08:59
	It was said that the two years would just line up with the budget cycle.	03:09:04
	So that the committee working through the budget cycle would.	03:09:08
	Sort of have a full.	03:09:12
	A full budget cycle.	03:09:13
	But so.	03:09:16
	A term, the two term limit was placed, but it wasn't.	03:09:18
	Really discussed thoroughly of why that was in place.	03:09:21
	And so.	03:09:25
	Council has options.	03:09:27
	Really.	03:09:29
	Don't change anything or.	03:09:31
	Change one of the Commission, either the Citizen Advisory Commission to be more like the Measure U Committee or the Measure U	03:09:34
	Committee to be more like the Citizen Advisory Commission for consistency.	03:09:39
	I think the fact.	03:09:45
	The Citizens Advisory Commission is actually.	03:09:47
	Appointed in line with our city code and our city ordinance.	03:09:50
	If we were going to change that, it would require a code change, which is more.	03:09:54
	Use of resources. More use of.	03:09:58
	Of staff time, council meeting time, because we have to bring a code change through.	03:10:02
	So all else being equal.	03:10:07
	The measure you committee was just adopted.	03:10:10
	Those tournaments were adopted by a resolution and that could be changed fairly easily.	03:10:12
	So if it were just based on amount of time or effort.	03:10:17
	Put into it, it's easier to change measure you committee than it is citizen advisory Commission.	03:10:21
	But the Council has.	03:10:26
	Those options.	03:10:28
	Of maintaining them the way they currently are.	03:10:29
	Or modifying.	03:10:32
	Either of those two commissions.	03:10:34
	And.	03:10:37
	Our only feedback would be.	03:10:39
	It's not clear. When I say our I mean staff.	03:10:42
	But it's not clear if the Measure you committee was created.	03:10:45
	Purposefully with different terms and term limits than the city code stipulates so for us.	03:10:49
	From a staff perspective, if there's not a specific reason, then it would be good practice to just have everything be uniform and	03:10:55
	following the city code.	03:10:58
	But it was just unclear from the history of if there was a specific reason why a term limit was put in place.	03:11:02
	And then the last comment is we still don't have any other applicants for the Measure U committee, so.	03:11:08
	It may be worth.	03:11:14
	Or if the term limits upheld.	03:11:16
	Well, the City Council will then have to make a decision about how to get an applicant for the measure you committed to move, like	03:11:20
	to make a motion, if that's possible, Yeah.	03:11:23
	I wanted any questions first.	03:11:29
	Any questions?	03:11:32
	I just want.	03:11:33
	Clarification. So you're saying?	03:11:35
	Mike, sorry.	03:11:38
	Oh, sorry.	03:11:39
	You're saying that it would be easier?	03:11:41
	To modify the measure U committee term.	03:11:43
	Term limits rather than.	03:11:48
	Modify the code, yes, because it's by resolution versus the citizen advisory Commission is by city. So that code is that option	03:11:52
	for standardized advisory boards. Is that the method then that we would do that? Yes, it'd be option 4 with.	03:11:59
	Are actually.	03:12:06
	It would be option 3 I believe.	03:12:09
	It would be option 3, but.	03:12:11
	Do it through resolution.	03:12:14
	Yeah, but do it.	03:12:16
	We'd do an updated resolution to remove the term limits.	03:12:19
	So I guess yeah, you're right, it is a option for.	03:12:23
	And then I understood there was an out. There was a.	03:12:28
	Interested party? Was that just?	03:12:32
	Mayor Pro Tem was that?	03:12:35
	Did you have somebody?	03:12:37
	Last Yeah, they.	03:12:38
	It was accepted.	03:12:41
	OK, because he was saying there wasn't somebody was no, his was already appointed.	03:12:42
	Language. Oh, OK, OK, so there's no, there's only one current person. OK OK. Appointed.	03:12:47
	Oh, I didn't know that happened. OK.	03:12:53
	All right. Thank you.	03:12:55
	Yeah, and so a city manager so.	03:12:56
	Based. I don't know if you've talked to anybody in the finance department, but there's no.	03:12:59
	Question or it no input as to.	03:13:04
	You know.	03:13:07
	What makes sense as it relates to?	03:13:08
	Measure U.	03:13:11
	About terms or anything like that that.	03:13:13
	No, I think, I mean, you could sort of make an argument either way. One would be, we'll get, you know, maybe this was the thought	03:13:15
	process at the time and it just wasn't discussed. But you know, get varying perspectives and make sure you're getting a variety of	03:13:20
	opinions.	03:13:24
	On the flip side, you could say, well, once you have people who understand the budget, you know, keep the expertise, so.	03:13:29
	So you could argue that either way, I think.	03:13:36
	The the the.	03:13:40
	Big challenges there. We don't have other applicants. So you know, it's not a situation I would say.	03:13:42
	If we wanted to go with that first option of well, let's get more voices in the room and let's let's do all that, well, you need	03:13:49
	more applicants to do that so.	03:13:52
	That's.	03:13:57
	You know, it's kind of a.	03:13:58
	Inhibitor that's being put on us right now so.	03:14:02
	So, So from a staff perspective, I think well.	03:14:06
	And this is the case with all commissions and committees.	03:14:11
	We'll work with whoever the Council.	03:14:13
	Sure. And so if you don't mind, let me just say this real quick because I had some comments last. Sorry Mayor, I had some comments	03:14:15
	the last time and.	03:14:20
	And I was able to kind of do some thinking.	03:14:25
	Through that.	03:14:28
	And so and then I kind of.	03:14:29
	Thought about the experience that I had when I initially came on to council and I didn't know anyone, right? And I said who's in	03:14:31
	it now? And they said ABCD and I said OK, that person is good, right? And I think that that's what we get.	03:14:38
	Umm, that's naturally what happens. And so, umm.	03:14:46
	Even like you think about the CAC.	03:14:51
	I guess if.	03:14:54
	The person that I picked.	03:14:55
	Maybe the person?	03:14:57
	A new person would not want that person, right? And So what that person would transition out, but maybe the person would and, and	03:14:59
	I'm so I'm just kind of talking out loud. And so that's like eight years later, right? Because if it's a four year term and	03:15:06
	there's 2 terms, that's literally 8 years that someone can serve and is there.	03:15:13
	And this is rhetorical.	03:15:20
	Is there?	03:15:21
	When it comes time for a new person to want to come on.	03:15:23
	And you, you got your person.	03:15:29
	Then that made them.	03:15:32
	You know.	03:15:34
	Prohibit others from participating. So so I'm thinking of, I was thinking about all that.	03:15:35
	But I will say I currently.	03:15:40
	We're not voting yet, so I'm not going to make that statement at all.	03:15:43
	And I if I could just note to that because that's where.	03:15:46
	I think that's why the CAC Citizens Advisory Commission follows.	03:15:49
	The city code because that.	03:15:54
	Section essentially aligns it to each council member.	03:15:57
	And so if one council member steps away, and this is how CAC works, is 1 council member steps away, their term ends.	03:16:01
	Then the incoming council member would decide whether to continue that person or appoint their their own person.	03:16:10
	And so.	03:16:17
	That's that's what we meant when we said that the option would be to just sort of match.	03:16:18
	That city code and what?	03:16:23
	The and what the CAC currently does. It's just the measure.	03:16:26
	Measure you.	03:16:30
	Doesn't do it that way currently.	03:16:31
	Any any council member comma.	03:16:33
	May I please make a motion now?	03:16:35
	Make sure everybody has an opportunity. No one has a question.	03:16:37
	Comment I have a comment.	03:16:39
	We do have public comments. OK, great. Thank you.	03:16:42
	Let's go.	03:16:45
	Did you have? Did you have any more questions?	03:16:47
	I just make a comment that the city manager stated it in three different.	03:16:49
	Times. Those all make sense to me, so I'd like to make a motion to go to option 3.	03:16:53
	Public We have public comments.	03:16:57
	OK, OK. Becky Bruning and then David Scrivener.	03:17:02
	Good evening, Mayor, Mayor Pro Tem, council staff.	03:17:12
	Audience.	03:17:16
	I'm here because.	03:17:18
	I am on the CAC.	03:17:20
	Matter of fact, I'm.	03:17:23
	The mayor's person.	03:17:24
	I was on it before.	03:17:28
	Had appointed me.	03:17:31
	And.	03:17:34
	I feel that you should have.	03:17:37
	The measure U.	03:17:40
	Be like.	03:17:43
	The CAC.	03:17:44
	Where the council members are picking them.	03:17:46
	They can go for the council members term.	03:17:49
	Because if you put a time limit on us.	03:17:52
	You're going to run into this again.	03:17:56
	People aren't going to sign up.	03:17:59
	And then you're going to be like.	03:18:02
	Now what do we do?	03:18:04
	Where if?	03:18:07
	You don't put a time limit on us.	03:18:08
	And.	03:18:11
	Let's say.	03:18:13
	The mayor runs again.	03:18:15
	She loses.	03:18:18
	I'm out, but I can put in an application.	03:18:20
	Whoever takes their place.	03:18:24
	Can pick me again.	03:18:26
	Or if somebody else happens to put in their application.	03:18:30
	They can pick them.	03:18:34
	But at least they'll have a choice.	03:18:35
	Where if you put a limit on us.	03:18:39
	They're not going to have that choice.	03:18:41
	That's all.	03:18:47
	Thank you.	03:18:48
	David.	03:18:52
	Good evening.	03:18:58
	I think I'm the reason we're having this whole discussion, so back up a little bit.	03:19:00
	Where I'm already over the time limits that they're established. I was appointed in 2019.	03:19:06
	OK, this is I've been there for 5 1/2 years now.	03:19:12
	To be blunt, the first three years were a complete waste of everybody's time.	03:19:16
	For the reasons that were described in the report to the Council we talked about last year.	03:19:19
	As far as I'm concerned, I'm quite fine with whatever you guys decide. If I'm term limited out and that's fine with me.	03:19:26
	On the other hand.	03:19:33
	There's a loophole here which is kind of odd, which is in essence if.	03:19:35
	A council person doesn't.	03:19:42
	Nominate somebody.	03:19:43
	The person who is already sitting sits there.	03:19:45
	And continues their term.	03:19:48
	Which seems sketchy to me.	03:19:50
	Seems to me what we should have is some sort of rule that says here's what.	03:19:52
	Here's what the deal is. You're here for two years. Four years.	03:19:56
	Whatever.	03:19:59
	And then your terms up.	03:20:00
	You know, if you can't get a quorum in a committee, I guess you have to struggle with that, so.	03:20:02
	What what I'm up against right now is I don't want to do 2 hours of ethics training.	03:20:08
	If if I'm going to be term limited out, so I'd like you to make some sort of decision, do what you're going to do.	03:20:14
	And on we go. So thank you.	03:20:21
	Thank you.	03:20:24
	Thank you.	03:20:25
	Any other public comments that concludes public comment?	03:20:27
	Right. Yeah.	03:20:30
	Yeah. None of us like going through the ethics training, but it's good training and it's part of the requirement and so of being	03:20:33
	appointed on these commissions, so.	03:20:37
	There's no getting around that one.	03:20:43
	And so I did want to follow up just one more thing. I promise it'll be the last one about this topic.	03:20:45
	Umm, so if you all recall at the last meeting, the comments that I made specifically weren't about whether.	03:20:50
	We wanted.	03:20:59
	Which way we wanted to go. My comment was about if we're going to have policy.	03:21:00
	We want the policy to represent what we're doing.	03:21:06
	If we have a policy, we don't want to just decide to do whatever we want to do.	03:21:09
	But then we expect our city, our residents to do what's in the policy right.	03:21:14
	So whatever the policy is, let's I'm OK with whatever it is, but I just want to make sure that we have a policy so we're not the	03:21:18
	ones going outside of our own rules.	03:21:23
	And so that that's the comment that I made. Can I speak to that also, please?	03:21:29
	OK, yeah. So Speaking of policy along with, you know, the.	03:21:34
	The ethics training. There's also our.	03:21:38
	Policy and procedures that we have here for our Council.	03:21:41
	And in the policy it says that it applies to other boards and commissions.	03:21:45
	So.	03:21:52
	And that's not been enforced.	03:21:53
	At the Measure U committee or.	03:21:55
	The CAC, so if we're going to have that policy and it's going to have that statement in there that it.	03:21:58
	That those policies about.	03:22:04
	Decorum about.	03:22:06
	Distance about conflict of interest.	03:22:08
	Umm, then we need to make sure that both committees are.	03:22:11
	Are aware of the policy and that they've been trained in the policy and understand it.	03:22:16
	Yes.	03:22:22
	Councilmember Perez Yes, I do. So I mean, that's easy to say, but we don't even follow the policy on Council, so we can't really	03:22:23
	be pushing that out on our.	03:22:28
	Committees when we don't do it ourselves.	03:22:33
	But to the point is.	03:22:35
	There's not a lot of stuff that the Citizens Advisory Committee does throughout the year to really give them a chance to even	03:22:37
	advise on a council if they have term limits and they.	03:22:42
	We need to give that first. We need to give them more things to be involved with. They need to be.	03:22:46
	More part of the conversation.	03:22:51
	But it should be consistent with us. I think that the Council should pick their person.	03:22:53
	And then if they term out.	03:22:59
	It's up for a new application or they bring in another person depending on who's elected to council.	03:23:00
	And it needs to be consistent.	03:23:05
	Yes. Anyone else?	03:23:07
	OK. Is there a motion? I got 1.	03:23:09
	Go right ahead, option 3.	03:23:13
	That makes. That makes.	03:23:15
	Measure U like.	03:23:19
	CAC through a resolution, correct? Mr. City Manager, you said 3.	03:23:22
	Four, OK.	03:23:28
	Yeah, amend my emotion.	03:23:29
	And then corrected myself.	03:23:31
	OK, I'm gonna amend my motion to option 4.	03:23:33
	2nd be it be a standard standardizing the advisory bodies to have the four year terms matching the council member with no with no	03:23:35
	term, with no term limits.	03:23:40
	A second.	03:23:46
	Any other discussion?	03:23:48
	Madam Clerk, can we take a vote, please?	03:23:50
	All in favor.	03:23:51
	All opposed hearing none. Motion passes unanimously.	03:23:53
	Great. Thank you. Thank you so much.	03:23:58
	OK, we're going to move to item number.	03:24:01
	13.	03:24:04
	Request for review recreation events initiated by former council member.	03:24:05
	Will staff please?	03:24:11
	Present your report.	03:24:12
	Thank you. Yes.	03:24:13
	So at the last council meeting.	03:24:15
	I believe.	03:24:19
	Former Councilmember Bobby Martinez.	03:24:20
	Spoke about.	03:24:23
	Several events that he had coordinated.	03:24:27
	In his time as a council member.	03:24:29
	So and the the council asked for.	03:24:32
	A report of.	03:24:36
	The events that we coordinated and.	03:24:38
	Kind of a status of those events, which ones we were planning to continue and which ones we.	03:24:41
	Are not planning to continue.	03:24:47
	And so this report.	03:24:50
	Is intended to provide that information. It lists the events.	03:24:53
	There were a lot of duplicate events. So for example, like you know, the list will say things like mini soccer tournaments. My	03:24:56
	understanding is that there were several of those, but we didn't list.	03:25:02
	You know each of those things.	03:25:08
	We sort of we were trying to just.	03:25:10
	Generally say which events we're planning to continue at this time and which ones we have not.	03:25:13
	Made plans to continue.	03:25:17
	I think.	03:25:19
	Really. How?	03:25:20
	What it kind of broke down to is.	03:25:22
	There were two events that were really coordinated as.	03:25:25
	City events that I think at the time, I believe one of them predates me, but I believe that there was.	03:25:29
	Some City Council discussion of they were coordinated as.	03:25:36
	And then they were coordinated, as you know, staff.	03:25:40
	Events. Umm.	03:25:44
	And that was the three-point contest.	03:25:44
	The Winnemi fun run which is.	03:25:48
	We've developed it into the the.	03:25:52
	See splash color dash if I'm getting that right. 5K event which is coming up.	03:25:55
	With the.	03:26:01
	With the.	03:26:03
	1K run for kids.	03:26:04
	And so.	03:26:06
	Those two we currently have plans.	03:26:07
	To continue.	03:26:11
	The other events were events and my understanding because a lot of them predated me.	03:26:12
	Is that there were events, events that I think Councilmember Martinez.	03:26:16
	And Oregon Reach had coordinated, but there was either limited or no city involvement.	03:26:20
	And so there is not.	03:26:25
	The staff.	03:26:28
	Weren't, uh.	03:26:29
	Very involved, or involved at all in some of them.	03:26:31
	And therefore.	03:26:34
	Didn't have a process in place. There was number plans to continue to to operate those events.	03:26:36
	And then?	03:26:44
	And so that's the music and literature event, the mini soccer tournaments, the volleyball clinics in the community softball games.	03:26:45
	I do think there was a couple like other similar athletic events that were more just coordinated.	03:26:52
	On that individual basis or through reach.	03:26:56
	And so our suggestion with those is.	03:26:59
	By clearly delineating which events the City Council wants to continue and which ones.	03:27:01
	I don't even want to say it's not that.	03:27:08
	That they wouldn't be continued, but it's basically offered back up to reach or Councilmember Martinez to decide if they want to	03:27:10
	continue those events.	03:27:14
	So we recommended the three-point contest and the fun run.	03:27:18
	And then offering the remainder of the events back.	03:27:22
	To reach.	03:27:26
	And I just wanted to note before.	03:27:27
	Closing the presentation that.	03:27:30
	In the staff report, we note that part of why.	03:27:33
	Those are the ones we're focusing on is because we do expect this year to be a heavy recreation year.	03:27:37
	We are, uh.	03:27:42
	Having a park grand opening.	03:27:43
	And then probably a separate playground grand opening because we're doing.	03:27:46
	Both of those projects at Bubbling Springs.	03:27:49
	We have the library and mural grand opening which are recreation department is helping the county.	03:27:51
	With as well.	03:27:58
	Coordinating some youth events for that.	03:28:01
	And, umm.	03:28:04
	Dog parks grant grand opening and.	03:28:05
	There's a few other things as well as just the normal things like getting the lifeguard program up to.	03:28:08
	Up and going, which is a huge project every year.	03:28:15
	And a new Steam after school program, the Sea Splash Color Dash 5K.	03:28:18
	And and other events so.	03:28:24
	Are we expect that are sort of what we tried to do is look at these realistically to say what we think we can do with existing	03:28:26
	resources.	03:28:30
	And that we had experience doing and then other events saying with reach.	03:28:34
	Sort of splitting from are, you know, trying to be independent from the city that they would be good events for Reach to take on.	03:28:39
	Moving forward O.	03:28:45
	So those are the items 3 point contest in the fun run.	03:28:46
	Continuing as the 5K and 1K.	03:28:52
	But the remainder of the events.	03:28:57
	Being provided.	03:29:00
	Offered back to reach essentially.	03:29:02
	Yes, I will say that I did talk to Mr. Martinez yesterday.	03:29:04
	And he said Reach is interested would still.	03:29:08
	Do the.	03:29:12
	Music and literature event.	03:29:14
	And he said that the volleyball.	03:29:16
	Clinics that he.	03:29:18
	He hosted.	03:29:21
	Really didn't turn out the way that he wanted them to. He expected it would be adults and teenagers and a lot of kids came out.	03:29:23
	And that wasn't his intent.	03:29:30
	So he.	03:29:32
	He said he doesn't think he'll do that again this year.	03:29:33
	So just wanted to share that with you.	03:29:39
	The most enjoyable event.	03:29:44
	On the bottom tier where it was the music and literature event.	03:29:47
	I mean, it really was.	03:29:51
	It was overflow attendance at Six Flags. We all got a chance to read.	03:29:53
	And the kids.	03:29:59
	Loved it, I love it.	03:30:01
	So I.	03:30:03
	Hope that the city and reach could we could develop that a little better, maybe at the beach one day like we did last time. And it	03:30:06
	was really cool. I mean there was so many kids there and.	03:30:11
	What do we do? We all read a paragraph out of a book or something.	03:30:17
	But maybe we could develop that a little more. Maybe we could stick to a story. I don't know, but I think.	03:30:22
	Reading the kids is.	03:30:27
	It's a great activity for the kids and it's a great activity for those of us that get to read to them so.	03:30:30
	I would love to see us partner with Reach on that and then.	03:30:35
	The other things just let reach bring them forward. If they, So what?	03:30:39
	Yeah, and I'm not really sure about the the mini soccer tournaments or the community softball games, but I imagine we're opening	03:30:44
	Bubbling Springs Park.	03:30:48
	And we may be able to include some of that.	03:30:53
	If that.	03:30:56
	Something we want to do later. Yeah. And I think it kind of goes with the conversation. These are the growing pains of Reach has	03:30:57
	always been a city.	03:31:00
	Sponsored entity and now they're.	03:31:04
	Independent and sort of like where's that line and which projects are we gonna lead and which ones are they gonna lead? But they	03:31:06
	can still come to us and so.	03:31:10
	I think.	03:31:14
	You know, one thought is if.	03:31:16
	If like for example I think.	03:31:18
	Mayor McQueen Legend noted that.	03:31:21
	Reach said they were interested in the music and literature events.	03:31:24
	You could, you know, essentially.	03:31:27
	The council could always consider if reach comes and asked for support.	03:31:29
	You know that can we can consider giving support on that.	03:31:33
	And as part of that, identifying what the city.	03:31:37
	Expects or wants from that.	03:31:39
	So I was trying to make the point that.	03:31:41
	For us to.	03:31:44
	Be involved to be a true partner because it was such a great community event. I mean, you couldn't ask for a better community	03:31:45
	event.	03:31:48
	So that would be.	03:31:55
	That's essentially the question here is how do we want to approach that? Do we want if Reach wants to continue it?	03:31:56
	And Councilmember?	03:32:04
	Martinez.	03:32:06
	Our former Councilmember Martinez.	03:32:07
	Plans to continue it. Do we want to identify that as a city project or do we want to let them?	03:32:10
	Come forward and.	03:32:16
	Mayor, I mean, we do have a public comment that may help.	03:32:18
	With the discussion, OK, yes, please. Let's go to the public comment please. Thank you.	03:32:23
	Good evening Mayor Mayor McQueen Lejeune, Mayor Pro Tem Lopez, council members, city staff, and members of the public.	03:32:28
	I appreciate the opportunity to comment on this agenda item and want to acknowledge the City's efforts in continuing several great	03:32:35
	community events. Sorry, this is from.	03:32:39
	Former Councilmember Bobby Martinez.	03:32:44
	I also wanted to highlight a few initiatives that were not mentioned in the staff report but have made a meaningful impact on our	03:32:47
	residents.	03:32:50
	1st I work to open the Boys and Girls Club gym to the public, providing the only open gym space in the city for residents to use.	03:32:54
	Including for pickleball.	03:33:02
	This cost the city about 10,000 a year and while I believe it's a great program to continue, it should only move forward if the	03:33:03
	Boys and Girls Club completes the necessary floor repairs as part of their current remodeling project.	03:33:09
	2nd the rock painting activity was something I initiated initiated for the first ever fun run.	03:33:16
	I personally provided the materials, sacks of water, rocks, paint and brushes.	03:33:21
	So the community could participate.	03:33:25
	Since then, I understand the Recreation and Community Services division has continued this activity.	03:33:27
	Though now with the $10 fee.	03:33:33
	Additionally, I advocated for the city and port to establish a scholarship program through the Community Benefit Fund.	03:33:35
	Well, I know there are still funding allocated for this year. The question remains whether we'll continue moving forward.	03:33:42
	Regarding other events, I commend the city for doing a great job with a three-point contest.	03:33:47
	Rich would be happy to support that again, as well as the fun run if additional help is needed.	03:33:52
	The music and literature event is something I hope to bring back through our Sister City committee.	03:33:58
	However, this year our focus is on the March 25th fundraiser, which you are all invited to, and our upcoming Puerto Vallarta visit	03:34:02
	in April.	03:34:06
	Originally, I helped the music and literature event for the Adel Nino when I was mayor.	03:34:11
	While I had the City Council approval and support, I didn't receive much direct assistance directly from the city.	03:34:15
	I may be able to organize it again next year.	03:34:21
	As for the sporting events, these are areas where REACH can likely step in, but we may need city support for facility use.	03:34:24
	Like we do for pickleball tournaments.	03:34:31
	Lastly, I want to clarify the community softball games were actually former Mayor Rollins idea.	03:34:33
	I just helped facilitate them.	03:34:38
	I truly hope the Council will continue to support as many of these initiatives as possible, but ultimately it is up to your	03:34:40
	discretion.	03:34:44
	Thank you for your time and consideration. And that was from Bobby Martinez.	03:34:47
	Great. Thank you.	03:34:52
	Anyone else?	03:34:55
	Can I maybe?	03:34:57
	Just, umm.	03:34:59
	There's a couple of things that I'll.	03:35:00
	Maybe add some detail to?	03:35:02
	So the Boys and Girls Club gym is one that.	03:35:05
	That.	03:35:09
	Mr. Martinez mentioned.	03:35:11
	That's not on this list because it's not an event, it's a program.	03:35:13
	We are expecting to.	03:35:17
	Look at closely at all programs as part of the budget and so.	03:35:20
	I think it's just.	03:35:25
	We'll talk about programs as part of the budget, but they weren't on the event event list.	03:35:26
	And then?	03:35:30
	There was something else he mentioned.	03:35:33
	Scholar. Oh, that's thank you.	03:35:36
	Yeah, scholarship is part of the Community Benefit Fund.	03:35:38
	So that gets voted on each year by council as part of the Community Benefit Fund.	03:35:41
	And so.	03:35:45
	It's not listed on here.	03:35:47
	You know, I guess.	03:35:50
	Somebody else may disagree or, you know, anybody could disagree, but.	03:35:54
	I didn't look at that as a.	03:35:57
	Event initiated by 1 council member. I looked at that as a Community Benefit Fund approved project.	03:35:59
	And I know he, Mr. Martinez, was on the joint committee. So, you know, I think he was part of that conversation. But.	03:36:05
	Those always are annually reviewed and can be considered. So we didn't include community benefit fund projects on this list. So	03:36:12
	Mayor, Mr. city manager, the Boys and Girls Club to that comment. The floor is not going to be repaired, so I don't know if that	03:36:17
	impacts.	03:36:23
	Their construction is not including.	03:36:28
	The gym, The floor.	03:36:30
	Oh, the gym at all? OK.	03:36:32
	Yeah, that's we were planning to have a follow up conversation with them and see kind of where they were at too, because it was a	03:36:35
	test.	03:36:37
	Program and part of it was going to be asking the Boys and Girls Club if they were, if they felt it was successful and if they	03:36:41
	wanted to continue it too.	03:36:44
	I don't think we have a.	03:36:48
	Since I'm on the board and that's why I'm saying we.	03:36:50
	Don't have it we.	03:36:52
	Did not have a problem with it, but if it's.	03:36:54
	If it's dependent on whether the floor is going to be repaired, that's not part of the construction. So we'll bring that. My	03:36:56
	suggestion would be we can bring that back as part of those budget discussions with the status update then.	03:37:01
	So this action is to.	03:37:10
	Mayor.	03:37:16
	Or, umm.	03:37:18
	Yeah, provide recommendation to city Manager.	03:37:20
	Anyone have any recommendations?	03:37:25
	As it relates to all the items.	03:37:32
	You talked about one item.	03:37:34
	Yeah, that's kind of like my suggestion is like I would like to see the city. I like to see us develop that program.	03:37:36
	It was highly successful.	03:37:42
	And I think it's good for the community.	03:37:44
	OK, anyone else? Yeah, the comment.	03:37:47
	Councilmember Hernandez, Yeah, I just wanted to ask the city manager if he captured.	03:37:50
	The comments from.	03:37:56
	Former Councilman Martinez is.	03:37:59
	Public comment.	03:38:01
	And was able to kind of.	03:38:02
	Decipher which ones you wanted to recommend and which ones we'll leave to reach.	03:38:04
	Because I wasn't following.	03:38:09
	That closely.	03:38:11
	I'd like to know what your staff recommendation is.	03:38:13
	Our recommendation was.	03:38:17
	And I'll explain the reason why, but I recommendation was to continue the three-point contest and then to continue with the 5K and	03:38:19
	1K and health and Wellness event.	03:38:23
	The reason why, again, we don't. We aren't.	03:38:28
	The reason why we didn't recommend staff continuing with the music and literature event is that the staff wasn't really my	03:38:31
	understanding. It was before my time, it wasn't. The staff wasn't really involved in the prior event and.	03:38:36
	Wasn't really prepared to continue it and I think that yeah, there was number prior event and I think he.	03:38:42
	She said that Sister City was going to lead it again. So.	03:38:48
	Perhaps we just.	03:38:52
	Tell them that we would like to be part of it and ask them to come to council and.	03:38:54
	And invite us to be part of it, if that's what they want or to propose, you know, basically they could propose what they would	03:38:59
	like the, you know, what role the city could have and if there's any sort of partnership there.	03:39:05
	So, but that's the decision for Council, but that's why we didn't have it on our list.	03:39:12
	Because I would support that.	03:39:18
	That recommendation?	03:39:19
	No, that's oh, it was already said. He said he wanted the.	03:39:24
	Children's for Sister City, so I was just going to make mention of that.	03:39:29
	Thank you. Anything else?	03:39:34
	OK, so is there is there a?	03:39:36
	Motion and a second.	03:39:39
	Let's try one more time.	03:39:40
	Move to approve Staffs recommendation of events.	03:39:42
	2nd.	03:39:46
	Roll call please.	03:39:49
	Councilmember Gama.	03:39:51
	Councilmember Hernandez? Yes. Councilmember Perez.	03:39:54
	Mayor Pro Tem Lopez, Yes, and Ma'am McQueen legend.	03:39:57
	Yes, motion passes unanimously.	03:40:00
	Thank you. Let's move to #14 strategic partnership.	03:40:03
	Will staff please present the report?	03:40:08
	Thank you.	03:40:10
	This item is.	03:40:12
	Is on the agenda today to allow the council to discuss. There's been some ideas for either a roundtable meeting, a joint meeting	03:40:15
	or.	03:40:18
	Potentially a series of meetings with various.	03:40:23
	Strategic partners for the city.	03:40:26
	I think I wanted to start by just noting that I do we've gotten good feedback from.	03:40:31
	Key partners.	03:40:37
	That at a staff level, we are working together and really developing those partnerships and we've really put an emphasis in doing	03:40:38
	that and rate.	03:40:42
	Regular meetings with our key partners, sort of staff to staff.	03:40:48
	But uh.	03:40:52
	Earlier this year, February 3rd when we discussed.	03:40:54
	The City Council.	03:40:58
	Sort of discuss the idea of.	03:41:00
	Doing that at a, you know, elected official to elected official level.	03:41:03
	Or some of these.	03:41:08
	Potential partners don't have elected officials, so.	03:41:10
	Or something similar in those situations.	03:41:13
	But that can take sort of various shapes it could take.	03:41:16
	And like I said, we had already discussed a couple of options, like either a roundtable meeting with.	03:41:22
	Multiple partners or joint meetings with.	03:41:27
	You know, with individual partners.	03:41:29
	So this items on the agenda to allow the Council to discuss.	03:41:31
	But there are a couple.	03:41:36
	There's a few questions that I think.	03:41:38
	Staff would need some direction on to move forward with or.	03:41:41
	As we discussed in the report that the Council could identify maybe a working group to workout.	03:41:45
	Including things like what agencies?	03:41:51
	Does the Council want to include, is it one agency per meeting? Multiple agencies per meeting?	03:41:54
	Which agencies should be brought together? Which one should be brought separately?	03:41:59
	Who to include from those agencies?	03:42:03
	Just as an example of why that's important if for example.	03:42:07
	The City Council meets with the school board. Then we have to make sure we're noticing both.	03:42:11
	Entities.	03:42:15
	In accordance with the Brown Act.	03:42:17
	Vice versa if if we're meeting with.	03:42:19
	The the Navy representatives and they are not elected officials then that.	03:42:22
	They they wouldn't necessarily have a noticed meeting, but we would have to have a noticed meeting.	03:42:27
	Or if it's.	03:42:33
	You know less than a quorum of.	03:42:34
	Of representatives then that would be a whole different situation. So those are the things we have to work through.	03:42:37
	The structure of what that meeting would look like.	03:42:43
	Agenda topics, Potential topics, because anything.	03:42:46
	If it becomes a Brown Act meeting.	03:42:49
	We have to have a set agenda.	03:42:51
	And and identify topics.	03:42:54
	And then obviously there's even just logistics things like.	03:42:58
	What time of day do we want to have the meeting? Is it is the intent to maximize public participation, in which case we might want	03:43:03
	to have.	03:43:06
	You know, certain meetings at a certain time.	03:43:09
	You know all of those things. Or is it intended to be more of a working meeting and you know, maybe it.	03:43:12
	That isn't quite quite as critical.	03:43:18
	These are just the questions as we started to really talk through, like what would these meetings look like?	03:43:20
	There's a lot of questions we have to answer to no.	03:43:25
	How we would move forward with these meetings?	03:43:29
	And so, as I mentioned a moment ago, one process I've seen.	03:43:32
	Is the Council could say we want to have a working committee of two council members who go out.	03:43:37
	And try to.	03:43:42
	Like, you know, put together.	03:43:44
	A proposal for what this meeting could look like and also reach out to.	03:43:47
	Like a representative from that agency and see if they would be amenable to having the same thing.	03:43:51
	Because for example, if we meet with.	03:43:57
	The school board or.	03:43:59
	Even the port board of.	03:44:01
	Directors.	03:44:03
	We're talking about, you know, essentially.	03:44:04
	10 people that would.	03:44:06
	Need to agree on.	03:44:08
	Or at least a majority of those that we need to agree on what that meeting would even.	03:44:09
	Be like so.	03:44:13
	So it's one of those things that we've talked about that the Brown Act is not here to make our lives easier. It's here to make	03:44:15
	sure that.	03:44:18
	That things are transparent.	03:44:21
	And so.	03:44:23
	We have to.	03:44:24
	Figure this.	03:44:25
	Out and then make sure that we're having the meeting.	03:44:26
	In a Brown Act compliant.	03:44:29
	Way so, so there's some details we need to figure out.	03:44:31
	Yeah, early on in.	03:44:35
	Councilmember Hernandez and Mines first term.	03:44:38
	We had a joint meeting with the Port of Winimi, which was Brown Act.	03:44:41
	I thought it was really good.	03:44:46
	And I also believe there was a lot of public participation and I think it was a working meeting, didn't we each man a table and	03:44:47
	have some people. It was a round table. Yeah, it was a round table. So I would say let's just go back to that and let's, let's	03:44:53
	just try to get together and have a meeting in that fashion. It was.	03:44:59
	It was.	03:45:06
	I thought it was good.	03:45:07
	I thought it's all elected, yeah.	03:45:09
	And I thought it was really good and I think.	03:45:12
	You know.	03:45:14
	It may be argued it's an uncomfortable and yeah, it probably is. Could be a little bit uncomfortable, but I think.	03:45:15
	If we were to.	03:45:21
	Maybe do it once a year.	03:45:22
	That we would.	03:45:25
	Really. Uh.	03:45:26
	Develop that.	03:45:26
	Partnership.	03:45:28
	Stronger.	03:45:30
	Elected body to elected body.	03:45:31
	Talking about the issues that we share.	03:45:34
	Councilmember Hernandez OK, so when I proposed this idea of a roundtable.	03:45:37
	The idea was that it would be one meeting.	03:45:44
	Not a series of meetings and it would be all inclusive of.	03:45:48
	All our partners, all our stakeholders at one time.	03:45:52
	A noticed meeting. If it has to be noticed, it could be noticed.	03:45:57
	With topic areas.	03:46:00
	And ask for maybe one or two representatives from each organization to come.	03:46:04
	This Council.	03:46:11
	Umm would do the invite.	03:46:12
	And we sit down and we talk about issues that are of concerning, that are of concern to us.	03:46:14
	Climate change.	03:46:22
	Other environmental concerns? Perhaps the dredging.	03:46:25
	Economic.	03:46:30
	Development.	03:46:31
	Public safety, Fire safety, Emergency Management, Traffic.	03:46:32
	One of the things that's on my mind, I don't know about the rest of you, but what's happening at the federal level is going to	03:46:38
	have an impact on all of us.	03:46:41
	And how are we going to work together? We only have control over our own little community here. How can we come together?	03:46:45
	And talk about these issues that are of concern to us.	03:46:52
	I think that it would, it could be a facilitated discussion. If we have money from the community benefit fund that we could use,	03:46:56
	maybe we can find some talent within our own ranks.	03:47:01
	Are one of the agencies have somebody who would be willing to facilitate the discussion, but let's just sit around.	03:47:06
	Meet each other and talk and I'm don't. And I'm not referring to just electives.	03:47:12
	Because not all these organizations that I've identified on my list are have elected bodies.	03:47:17
	And when I talk about who are our community partners, I'm talking about Navy Base, Oxnard Harbor District, County of Ventura, City	03:47:23
	of Oxnard, Wine, Amy School District, Oxnard School District, the fire department.	03:47:29
	Our nonprofits reach OPEC sister city.	03:47:35
	The Uncover Wonders store, that's a nonprofit here in our little business. They're doing a little business here.	03:47:38
	Our service clubs. Lions Club.	03:47:43
	VFW, I mean we really just open it up and let's.	03:47:46
	Let's have.	03:47:50
	A discussion and I think we'd have to narrow the topics down South. We don't get so.	03:47:51
	Lost and off track but I think.	03:47:55
	If we decide it works, we maybe we can do.	03:47:58
	Other topics later, but I think.	03:48:00
	What I'm hoping for is we can build a sense of community.	03:48:02
	You know that we all you know.	03:48:06
	I appreciate the fact that staff in the city manager's offices.	03:48:08
	Reaching out and they're working with.	03:48:12
	City of Oxnard they're working with.	03:48:14
	The Harbor District there, you're all doing that on a face to face basis and that's great.	03:48:17
	But.	03:48:23
	I really think that.	03:48:25
	Having.	03:48:27
	Us all together in one room.	03:48:28
	Can go a long ways in helping us.	03:48:30
	Build some collaboration and give us that sense of partnership.	03:48:32
	In our community.	03:48:37
	So those are my colleagues.	03:48:40
	Anyone else?	03:48:44
	Are there any public comments?	03:48:45
	No public comments. I had another thought I wanted to suggest too is umm.	03:48:49
	You know, in September is the time that we do our.	03:48:54
	We should be doing our state of the City address.	03:48:57
	Umm. And we we.	03:49:02
	We've all tried to do it as best we can. A lot of circumstances have occurred, you know, that have limited us during.	03:49:03
	My time it was COVID.	03:49:10
	Umm, so I did a presentation here before council, but the state of the city address is really it's a mayors.	03:49:12
	It's the mayor's address.	03:49:18
	To the community.	03:49:20
	And it's usually done in September.	03:49:21
	And it should be public.	03:49:24
	It's really it used to be hosted by the Chamber of Commerce. It used to be a breakfast meeting.	03:49:26
	And it would be presented by the mayor, and the mayor would come out and speak about.	03:49:31
	You know, the state of the city.	03:49:35
	But there were times for questions.	03:49:37
	There were times for some discussion there. Maybe there's a way we can fashion the state of the city address where we can.	03:49:39
	Talk about, you know, how the city's doing, you know?	03:49:45
	Of how good we're doing, maybe areas where we're working on where.	03:49:48
	What our concerns and then you know.	03:49:53
	Open it up to hear from the community.	03:49:56
	And maybe that's a way we could.	03:49:59
	We can start the discussion.	03:50:02
	That's just a thought.	03:50:04
	OK.	03:50:11
	So.	03:50:16
	So we have the recommendation in front of us.	03:50:18
	And I'm not saying either that it be instead.	03:50:21
	Meeting instead of the port.	03:50:24
	City meeting that.	03:50:27
	Councilman Gamal was talking.	03:50:29
	Talking about I think.	03:50:30
	That could be something separate.	03:50:31
	Great. But I'm not sensing that the Council is, you know, that's why you collaborate because you get the buy off and if we can't	03:50:37
	collaborate here on the idea, then maybe it's not.	03:50:42
	Something we can move forward with because I'm not sensing that we're doing that. So I tell you what, what is in my mind is.	03:50:47
	I needed to sit for a minute and think about it and maybe we can talk about it at a later time.	03:50:55
	But the recommendation that the City Council consider options.	03:51:01
	For City Council, collaboration with strategic partners and provide.	03:51:06
	Direction. Umm.	03:51:10
	Is there are there any?	03:51:11
	Recommendations.	03:51:14
	As relates to.	03:51:15
	The strategic partnership.	03:51:17
	Collaboration. I'd like to.	03:51:21
	Proposed reaching out to the.	03:51:23
	Harbor District and seeing if we could.	03:51:26
	Duplicate what we did back in 2019 or early 2020.	03:51:29
	As a starting point.	03:51:33
	So is that you still think that that?	03:51:37
	But.	03:51:40
	The Sand Summit wouldn't be a.	03:51:41
	Brown Act.	03:51:43
	Is it a no?	03:51:45
	Yeah, I don't think he, but if we turned it into the port of Winnemi and all of us showing up, then it would be.	03:51:46
	Yeah, but I just like to see us all get in the room and, you know, talk and.	03:51:54
	Talk issues, talk where we're going.	03:52:00
	Can I ask the city manager?	03:52:03
	Based on what I said, is that enough there for staff to maybe go back and?	03:52:05
	Maybe fine tune?	03:52:11
	The maybe does that help answer some of the questions about may I just interrupt for one said could we?	03:52:13
	If we had a.	03:52:19
	Elected. Elected meeting.	03:52:20
	And then invited all the different stakeholders with that.	03:52:22
	Meet your.	03:52:25
	Go. Well, yeah, I mean.	03:52:27
	Yes, I don't think it whether or not it's a Brown act or not a Brown act is an issue. All you have to do is notice the meeting	03:52:30
	with the agenda and.	03:52:34
	We're good to go, but if we had a.	03:52:39
	Elected elected meeting and invited all the different stakeholders.	03:52:41
	I think the comment, the comment that was made was that when you say elected to elected and all the other, they may be elected as	03:52:46
	well, no?	03:52:51
	But just just the Oxford Harbor District and the city of Port 180.	03:52:55
	Yeah, she's talking. No, but but we could schedule that meeting.	03:53:00
	And we can invite the VFW invite Ocean View Pavilion.	03:53:04
	Invite Surfrider, you're saying have a noticed meeting of the Council and the port, but invite other stakeholders, yes.	03:53:08
	Well, I think others would be.	03:53:16
	Invited, but I think the topic area would be.	03:53:18
	Umm, the topic area may not be of.	03:53:22
	Full interest to all these organizations, but we could make it like for example.	03:53:24
	The environment.	03:53:30
	If we're going to talk about the environment, there's coastal keepers or Surfrider, there's the community.	03:53:31
	I mean.	03:53:37
	A lot of people want to talk about that climate change, talk about talk about roads, talk about traffic, I mean, whatever we I	03:53:38
	think.	03:53:41
	I'm getting mixed up I think though, because maybe we had.	03:53:46
	Did the port have another meeting that we participated in?	03:53:50
	Where we put post its up on the.	03:53:53
	Right. And we, we participated as a body, right? All of us.	03:53:56
	Right, but not together.	03:53:59
	It was, it was. We went on our own time.	03:54:01
	On our own schedules, we didn't go as.	03:54:05
	As a council together.	03:54:08
	You each participated, but in your individual capacity.	03:54:10
	But they had like a workshop, didn't they? Remember it had like a workshop where we all paired up in groups, like 13 people at a	03:54:14
	roundtable.	03:54:17
	They gave us the stack of post its.	03:54:20
	Oh yeah, OK, that was.	03:54:23
	Yes, anyways.	03:54:25
	Yeah, maybe we could.	03:54:26
	Yeah, maybe we could reach out and.	03:54:28
	Try and see if there's two meetings or am I talking about the same? There were two different ones, yeah.	03:54:30
	Yeah, you're right.	03:54:34
	I just want to make a comment about the suggestion regarding the state of the city address.	03:54:36
	There was a.	03:54:42
	Very, very recent case out of the city of Ventura went to the California Supreme Court.	03:54:43
	Where the city of Ventura gave their State of the City address at a line, I believe a Lions Club meeting.	03:54:48
	And what they all the Supreme Court ultimately determined was even though the Lions Club members.	03:54:55
	Are paying to go in and have this breakfast. It still needed to be agendized. So it was a Brown act violation. Yeah, I wouldn't	03:55:02
	recommend.	03:55:06
	Your attention, yeah, I would recommend that.	03:55:13
	Yeah.	03:55:14
	So you know.	03:55:16
	There's a there's a lot of ideas, but.	03:55:19
	I think I heard.	03:55:23
	Two that I think.	03:55:25
	Are helpful.	03:55:27
	Are not that the other ones weren't.	03:55:29
	The other ones weren't, but I think for right this minute.	03:55:31
	Mayor McQueen legend, you, you had said that you were absorbing it and you were thinking and you might need some time to think.	03:55:36
	And I do think.	03:55:40
	I think that was the challenge, even like writing this item is there's so many different directions we could go with it that I	03:55:44
	think having like this initial discussion and then thinking and then coming back and making some decisions.	03:55:49
	I I don't necessarily.	03:55:56
	Know that.	03:55:58
	The more we talk about it, I don't know that we're ready to solve it tonight.	03:55:59
	And so there's.	03:56:04
	There's that.	03:56:06
	And then I think, oh, the comment about the community benefit fund potentially.	03:56:08
	Which, you know, we have to go through that process, but the idea of.	03:56:13
	If we were going to do a joint meeting, actually having a facilitator in that community benefit fund, that's also a good way for	03:56:17
	us.	03:56:20
	To fill out from the port if they support having that idea, you know, having that meeting.	03:56:23
	Because we'd all have to agree to put that into the Community Benefit Fund.	03:56:28
	I think that could be good. And I do think that's one of those conversations that for the benefit of everybody, it would be good	03:56:32
	to have a facilitator and so that it's just.	03:56:36
	You know a person leading the conversation. It's not.	03:56:40
	Perceived as being, you know, skewed in One Direction or the other.	03:56:43
	So.	03:56:46
	We could.	03:56:48
	Kind of.	03:56:49
	Have this initial conversation, take some time and think about it and then.	03:56:51
	Decide if we if the the CBF is going to come back to the council in a couple months so the council can decide at that point. Do	03:56:54
	you want to?	03:56:57
	Do you want to proceed with that process? Is that what the?	03:57:01
	Facilitator as a Community. Community benefit fund proposal to the Port.	03:57:03
	Yeah.	03:57:10
	In the meantime, are you gonna?	03:57:11
	Have a discussion with Kristen and.	03:57:12
	Let's see and probably brief her that this is the conversation and that this is this is the direction that we're going.	03:57:15
	We can get some feedback and get some input, but I will say, I think Kristen would say, which is the same thing I would say, which	03:57:23
	is at the end of the day.	03:57:26
	This is the five of your decision. And she'll probably say at the end of the day, it's the five of their decision, right? Yeah,	03:57:30
	so.	03:57:33
	So just I just want to make sure because I think that it almost like the conversation started off with strategic partnership.	03:57:36
	Holistically.	03:57:44
	And now I'm hearing port.	03:57:46
	And so I just want to make sure we're not talking about.	03:57:48
	Strategic planning with the port, we're talking about our partners.	03:57:52
	Which is bigger than the port.	03:57:56
	Yes, and.	03:57:59
	I guess there's some.	03:58:02
	Report You're talking about the Community Benefit Fund and the funding used for a facility facilitator or this?	03:58:04
	My thought would be that would be for a conversation with the port, but maybe you know, that's that's still the question for	03:58:11
	councils. Would you want that meeting to be inclusive of everybody or would you want to just have?	03:58:16
	You know, I don't think we've agreed yet on are we gonna have a meeting with everybody? Are we gonna have a meeting with the port	03:58:21
	and then a meeting with everybody? Right. Well, that's what I said. That's why I said those are two different types of meetings.	03:58:25
	Yeah.	03:58:29
	So what we could do is.	03:58:33
	Bring an item back in a month to make that decision and then we'll have direction for both.	03:58:35
	For both of those answers, yeah, perhaps you could go back and look at the meeting that we had.	03:58:41
	So that we.	03:58:48
	Because it was a joint meeting, it was Brown act. We're all at the table and.	03:58:50
	When you say we were all.	03:58:55
	The port commissioners and City Council, yeah, all ten of us, it was a joint.	03:58:57
	Meeting.	03:59:04
	So if we brought in, if we bring an item back in a month to kind of come back with that conversation, we could.	03:59:05
	Yes, we could recap how that meeting was operated and see if that's how you'd want to propose it.	03:59:11
	And if I could just say this one more thing, I think the more I think about it.	03:59:16
	You know the economic we have. We just adopted our economic development plan.	03:59:20
	Umm, I think economic impact of what's happening at the federal level, economic development for the city.	03:59:27
	I think that's.	03:59:33
	Maybe that's the topic.	03:59:34
	Maybe that's the time again.	03:59:37
	Yeah.	03:59:38
	And we?	03:59:40
	Of the federal policy changes.	03:59:41
	We do have an open conversation still that we need to schedule with the port.	03:59:43
	Oh, OK, everybody OK, got it.	03:59:50
	But the conversation with the port is using.	03:59:53
	Some of the kids.	03:59:56
	Community Benefit Fund for facilitator for the.	03:59:57
	For the whole community approach.	04:00:00
	All the stakeholders.	04:00:03
	So I'll add note that I went to an event where I was with the base commander.	04:00:04
	At Military Youth of the Year.	04:00:08
	Dinner.	04:00:11
	Where we nominated there for the Boys and Girls Club.	04:00:12
	And he?	04:00:14
	I'll have to call him out on this, He said. Anything that we need anytime we want to get together, just reach out so.	04:00:16
	He made the first, made the first introduction, made the mistake of offering. OK, So based on what we have, we've talked about if	04:00:22
	they're a motion.	04:00:26
	Motion maybe to send back.	04:00:30
	Send the topics back to.	04:00:33
	The ideas and topics back to staff to massage and.	04:00:37
	Come back with.	04:00:41
	Some ideas?	04:00:42
	We can do a couple options.	04:00:44
	Is there a second?	04:00:46
	2nd.	04:00:47
	OK.	04:00:49
	All in favor.	04:00:51
	Aye, all opposed.	04:00:52
	Hearing none, motion passes unanimously.	04:00:54
	Great. Thank you so much. We are getting there. We'll go to our city manager for any comments.	04:00:56
	Yeah. Thank you.	04:01:03
	Thank you. I have a couple of slides, but before I do that, I don't have a slide for something we just wanted to announce. We know	04:01:05
	that the.	04:01:09
	That.	04:01:14
	We know that.	04:01:15
	We get a lot of questions from the community. Thank you about.	04:01:16
	The status of Surfside Motel.	04:01:20
	And so we wanted to just note.	04:01:22
	The the latest update on that project is that the city has retained the services of the Civica law firm.	04:01:26
	And in particular, attorney Matt, who is an expert in the area of distressed properties and working with cities to compel property	04:01:34
	owners to bring properties up to code.	04:01:39
	And we have obtained his services to.	04:01:44
	Work to address the issues at Surfside Motel.	04:01:48
	And.	04:01:53
	Mr. Silver has worked with other cities in the region on similar issues.	04:01:55
	And with the same ownership group.	04:02:00
	And so we are looking forward to him working with the city and representing the city.	04:02:04
	To help move this project forward for the benefit of the whole community.	04:02:09
	And so we expect with that announcement.	04:02:13
	We're working diligently.	04:02:17
	And we will expect to have some further announcements.	04:02:18
	As we make progress in that process, so.	04:02:23
	So moving on from there.	04:02:27
	The couple items we wanted to highlight.	04:02:29
	And I think we got all the business out of the way. So I think these are the.	04:02:33
	The fun ones.	04:02:37
	Our recreation program is launching that after school STEM program that the City Council approved a grant.	04:02:39
	To support that project.	04:02:47
	And so the.	04:02:49
	Our Rec team is launching.	04:02:51
	This I believe it starts, I think the registration starts tomorrow, but.	04:02:53
	Looking for that to confirm and I don't see it but I think registration starts tomorrow.	04:02:58
	And people could find that information with this QR code or.	04:03:02
	Or on our website.	04:03:06
	For the umm.	04:03:08
	To start registering because the.	04:03:10
	After school program starts on April 1st.	04:03:13
	Oh yeah. Registration opens March 3rd, so that's today, yeah.	04:03:16
	So people can start signing up for these now.	04:03:20
	It's 1st through 5th grade STEM program.	04:03:23
	For after school.	04:03:26
	Do we have any feedback as to how well received?	04:03:28
	Calls about it, do we know? We've heard, we've heard interest in it. It's launching for the first time.	04:03:32
	Ever and it launched today, so.	04:03:38
	I don't think, I don't know that we had numbers to report yet.	04:03:40
	But we know that.	04:03:44
	We got some initial.	04:03:44
	Feedback that there's interest in it from from some of the.	04:03:46
	Parents that were.	04:03:50
	That we're participating in other recreation programming.	04:03:53
	So and we'll do a status update on that because we know it's a new program and everything else will will.	04:03:56
	Try to like kind of keep the council informed how that goes. Did you send the info over to the school district?	04:04:02
	I believe so, but we'll we'll make sure that they get it to them.	04:04:08
	Yeah, I believe the school district was actually one of the ones that seemed to be excited about it.	04:04:14
	The.	04:04:20
	We had a couple of events, well, an event recently that we wanted to.	04:04:22
	Highlight the Bubbling Springs Park planting project.	04:04:26
	This was part of our Bowling Springs renewal project.	04:04:30
	And we we had a planting at Bubbling Springs Park with volunteers helping to.	04:04:34
	Participate in planting the the new plants for the park.	04:04:40
	And so that was on February 22nd. We had a great turn out.	04:04:45
	We basically had I think.	04:04:49
	Think I heard we have basically a volunteer for every plant we needed to plant.	04:04:51
	OK, OK.	04:04:56
	We needed more plants.	04:04:57
	We probably should have ordered some more plants, but.	04:04:59
	So that was a good event, good turn out.	04:05:03
	And then we're also calling, we're putting a call out for volunteers for the historical museum.	04:05:05
	The worst?	04:05:11
	It was exciting that we got the museum up and open, but we need more volunteers to help.	04:05:12
	Help keep it going so we're.	04:05:19
	We're still asking for that and there's a couple posts on like our Facebook page and those.	04:05:22
	Sites that have more information on that.	04:05:27
	Then last.	04:05:31
	The uh.	04:05:33
	March 17th agenda actually a couple of these items have moved, but.	04:05:35
	Let me highlight.	04:05:41
	I think the.	04:05:44
	The presentations we're still working on.	04:05:47
	We ended up with a lot of items on this agenda, so we're trying to balance the agenda out and I just didn't get to update it this	04:05:50
	morning.	04:05:54
	But those presentations may.	04:05:57
	Move. Umm.	04:06:00
	The umm.	04:06:02
	Because we have the public hearings for the special use permit for Beach Fest this 2025.	04:06:03
	And also a special unit use permit for the.	04:06:09
	Poor any me movie nights for this year so those.	04:06:12
	Items are timely.	04:06:16
	We are planning to bring the we got a map, a site map with themes for the utility box project from Reach and we'll be bringing	04:06:19
	that back.	04:06:23
	At this meeting.	04:06:27
	We have our annual general plan update. That is just an annual requirement. We have to get done by April 1st of each year. So	04:06:28
	that'll be on this agenda and it's timely.	04:06:33
	And then we have the dredge update we talked about.	04:06:37
	So there's a couple other items that we had on the list that we wanted to do. I just didn't get to update it because.	04:06:39
	Because of those deadlines and timelines.	04:06:45
	The items I didn't mention may may need to get.	04:06:48
	Pushed back a meeting.	04:06:51
	But umm.	04:06:53
	Those are the items that we're planning to bring for March 17th at this time, so.	04:06:54
	And that's, oh, actually there was one last thing I wanted, we wanted to do. Normally I end there.	04:07:00
	But we did want to highlight the service of or being Carpenter.	04:07:05
	Who passed away shortly after his 100th birthday.	04:07:09
	A couple weeks ago.	04:07:13
	It's hard to summarize his resume because it's an extremely impressive resume with.	04:07:17
	Decades of service to the community.	04:07:23
	And so we just wanted to once again highlight that and thank him for the legacy he leaves.	04:07:26
	And it was.	04:07:33
	The city's pleasure to.	04:07:36
	Sponsor his.	04:07:39
	100th birthday by allowing him use of the Community Center that is named after him.	04:07:40
	And so I think that was great that we were able to do that.	04:07:45
	As we all know, he passed.	04:07:49
	Just a couple.	04:07:51
	Weeks after that time so.	04:07:52
	We have.	04:07:55
	Sent regards to his.	04:07:56
	Family from from the city.	04:07:59
	So we just wanted to highlight his service as we.	04:08:00
	End SO.	04:08:04
	Thank you for that opportunity.	04:08:05
	And that's everything I have.	04:08:08
	Thank you.	04:08:11
	Mr. City Manager for recognizing Orvena, I hope that we can.	04:08:14
	His memory. Will we be sending flowers?	04:08:17
	On behalf of the city.	04:08:22
	Yes.	04:08:23
	We are sending on behalf of the city.	04:08:24
	Great. We'll move to Council member.	04:08:28
	Reports.	04:08:30
	Remember, Perez, do you have anything?	04:08:32
	I do not have anything to report back on.	04:08:35
	Councilmember Gamma.	04:08:38
	Hope you all remember my last inspiration had to do with water pipes and how impressive and inspiring they are.	04:08:40
	Earlier tonight we saw that diagram. I don't know if you all noticed, but I noticed.	04:08:47
	The separation between the city of Oxnard and Waeneme.	04:08:52
	Their pipes go to their place, our pipes come to ours.	04:08:56
	And it just got me recalling like how?	04:08:59
	Magnificent.	04:09:02
	It is to be able to see everything that's underground.	04:09:04
	It's just mind boggling. And then of course, celebrating our.	04:09:08
	Employees for a job well done.	04:09:12
	Every March 17th is Saint Patty's Day, Saint Patrick's Day.	04:09:16
	And we're going to be having a meeting on Saint Patrick's Day.	04:09:21
	Yeah, you guys are not going to believe this.	04:09:25
	My great grandma May was Irish.	04:09:29
	That makes me.	04:09:31
	8%.	04:09:33
	16% maybe?	04:09:34
	So I am Irish.	04:09:36
	I will be wearing a green jacket.	04:09:37
	And I hope that we could have.	04:09:39
	Short presentation honoring.	04:09:42
	Saint Patricks Day, perhaps, and.	04:09:45
	Maybe I'll make a request for an agenda item for that.	04:09:47
	But we can have fun with it, I'm sure.	04:09:50
	Wyoming beach clean up this last Saturday we partnered with Surfrider.	04:09:55
	We. We.	04:10:01
	Went through the appropriate channels and were able to place 4 dumpsters out near the outfall.	04:10:02
	We pretty much filled them up.	04:10:07
	And.	04:10:10
	The city staff stepped up big time.	04:10:11
	And uh.	04:10:14
	They took it upon themselves to.	04:10:16
	Use this.	04:10:19
	Buckets of the loader.	04:10:21
	As a dumpster and they took the bigger items out which was amazing.	04:10:23
	But we're doing so well out there in a.	04:10:28
	Every week we get new volunteers and so.	04:10:31
	It really isn't work.	04:10:35
	It is.	04:10:37
	Wellness and it's really enjoyable. So I hope you guys could come out sometime.	04:10:38
	Earlier we I spoke about recusing myself from the.	04:10:45
	Closed session item.	04:10:51
	You know we have to.	04:10:54
	Be on the lookout for.	04:10:57
	Bad, bad information.	04:10:59
	And when we make decisions with bad information.	04:11:02
	Really. Uh uh.	04:11:06
	Causes us.	04:11:07
	Grief and certainly caused me grief because the information I had was that I was able to, but.	04:11:09
	Clearly I was not.	04:11:14
	We have a fundraiser coming up for Sister City.	04:11:23
	Beacon.	04:11:27
	Most important thing.	04:11:28
	So I had a meeting with Beacon yesterday.	04:11:29
	Or actually, last Friday.	04:11:32
	And.	04:11:34
	It was a real time for.	04:11:36
	Reflection.	04:11:38
	Been on the board for six years now.	04:11:40
	And uh.	04:11:42
	When I first came to the board.	04:11:43
	You know, the Coastal Commission, everything had to go through the Coastal Commission and.	04:11:45
	We started having, of course, I came in guns a blazing.	04:11:49
	And I wanted to have.	04:11:52
	Conversations how the Coastal Commission governs the whole state as if we're all the same.	04:11:55
	And one of the things that we realize is that every beach community is different.	04:11:59
	So our issues with sand are much different than Santa Barbara, Goleta, Ventura, Oxnard.	04:12:03
	One of the first things that we try to do at Beacon was get the.	04:12:10
	Coastal Commission to recognize that.	04:12:14
	And the area where they.	04:12:16
	Were most stubborn was basin debris?	04:12:18
	So we have all these flood control basins that Philip was sediment.	04:12:22
	Which was destined?	04:12:26
	Go to the beach and the Coastal Commission would make us.	04:12:28
	Empty out the.	04:12:31
	The catch bases and take it to a landfill.	04:12:33
	So after all these years, we we finally we did a small project.	04:12:35
	In Carpinteria.	04:12:40
	Where we took the sediment from the debris basin and took it to Carpinteria Beach.	04:12:42
	Let the ocean spread it around.	04:12:47
	And so.	04:12:49
	The Coastal Commission bought into it and that program is expanding now.	04:12:51
	And, umm.	04:12:55
	We're really excited to.	04:12:57
	Finally be able to, you know, we talked about sea level rise and it's like.	04:12:59
	You know we've cut off.	04:13:03
	Mountains, ability to become a beach and every mountain when it gets rained on.	04:13:04
	It's trying to become a beach.	04:13:10
	And so we have all these impediments that stop that sediment from getting to the beach and so.	04:13:11
	It's just.	04:13:16
	It was a big, big celebration to realize that we are making headway.	04:13:18
	And then?	04:13:22
	Interesting enough there's rumors, I don't know if there's true or not, but the coastal Commission might be disbanded or?	04:13:24
	Reorganized or reconfigured?	04:13:31
	I think that's.	04:13:34
	Great opportunity again for US coastal cities.	04:13:35
	Because we've learned so much since the enactment of the Coastal.	04:13:38
	Commission in 1976. I believe so.	04:13:43
	You know there's going to be a.	04:13:48
	Some great opportunities coming forward for a coastal environments and so we're really excited and.	04:13:51
	Supervisor Lopez.	04:13:56
	Nominated me to be the Co chair and I was quite surprised and I got voted in so.	04:13:58
	Glad to.	04:14:05
	Beyond it.	04:14:07
	And like I said, we're making really good progress and we're moving forward with a lot of.	04:14:09
	Great projects.	04:14:13
	Great. Thank you.	04:14:17
	Just a couple of things I participated in.	04:14:20
	Just recently was the Ormond Beach hearing on the.	04:14:23
	Lease extension to continue the.	04:14:27
	Ormond Beach.	04:14:30
	Power plant and a lot of opposition to that.	04:14:32
	Rightly so, I think, the community.	04:14:35
	Of.	04:14:37
	B2 very upset that they are.	04:14:38
	Continuing to operate that.	04:14:41
	Facility.	04:14:43
	I think we'll hear more about.	04:14:45
	That also attended the robotics competition The Opening.	04:14:47
	With Mayor Pro Tem who did a great job.	04:14:52
	Representing the city and.	04:14:54
	We were there with the port and the county and.	04:14:56
	It was, it was very inspiring event. It was great. I hope to make it back next weekend.	04:15:00
	This week is very busy.	04:15:06
	I will be attending the.	04:15:08
	RDP strategic meeting on Wednesday SO.	04:15:10
	Mr. City Manager, I'll probably be.	04:15:14
	Talking to you about the comments that I'll be taking just to make sure that.	04:15:15
	They're accurately reflecting what?	04:15:19
	We discussed today.	04:15:21
	We've got Thursday, we've got SCAG meetings.	04:15:24
	In the morning.	04:15:28
	Then CPA in the afternoon.	04:15:30
	That'll be a busy day.	04:15:32
	Downtown LA.	04:15:34
	And then we have the coastal communities.	04:15:36
	Annual Coastal Communities meeting coming.	04:15:39
	In Goleta on the 14th.	04:15:42
	I'll be attending that that.	04:15:45
	And that, for now is also.	04:15:48
	Great. Thank you, Mayor.	04:15:52
	Do you have anything? Yes, we we, we did attend the first robotic.	04:15:53
	That's the name of the.	04:15:59
	The group, it's called First Robotics. This was their third annual.	04:16:01
	Event here at Port Winnie, ME.	04:16:05
	So we presented the proclamation.	04:16:07
	It was. It was pretty cool. Pretty cool event.	04:16:10
	Fathom works.	04:16:14
	NAV See the port.	04:16:16
	And.	04:16:18
	Co sponsored this event via the Community Benefit Fund that just came from the port and and the city.	04:16:20
	We presented the five thousand $5000 check from the from the Community Benefit Fund.	04:16:27
	And that that is a STEM program, so.	04:16:33
	I'm going to be talking to these local schools that we have here.	04:16:36
	We're going to have to try to form a team.	04:16:40
	So we can compete here locally.	04:16:42
	I think that would be fun.	04:16:44
	For uh.	04:16:45
	For Port Amy.	04:16:47
	But that's all I have.	04:16:48
	Thank you.	04:16:50
	Yeah, I missed it. I so I was able to go the last couple of years and missed it this year.	04:16:51
	And next weekend, so.	04:16:56
	But but thank you for I've been really busy under the weather the last few weeks or more than a few weeks. And so I know you've	04:16:58
	stepped in and been in every picture. I'm like, OK, he's there. Thank you. Thank you so much for that. I appreciate it. Other than	04:17:04
	that, I don't have anything to share.	04:17:10
	And so let's move on to requests for future agenda items.	04:17:17
	Councilmember.	04:17:22
	Could we have a?	04:17:26
	Not sure if it's a proclamation or a resolution for Saint Patrick's Day.	04:17:28
	On the agenda for.	04:17:34
	Saint Patrick's Day.	04:17:35
	Proclaiming.	04:17:39
	That day is Saint Patrick's Day.	04:17:40
	It's already, it's already proclaimed.	04:17:43
	Yeah, normally.	04:17:46
	So normally the city will proclaim a day when.	04:17:48
	You know, it's not a federal or state recognized day, so.	04:17:51
	A proclamation.	04:17:55
	We could do it if the council wanted to do it, it's just I would just like to.	04:17:57
	Who's doing the inspiration?	04:18:02
	Not not me, but I could.	04:18:04
	I think it's me.	04:18:06
	Next week.	04:18:07
	You know that the Irish have a fascinating story in this country and I think it's a very.	04:18:09
	Inspire inspirational and they were also discriminated against heavily so.	04:18:15
	Just saying.	04:18:20
	So I don't know what are we gonna do?	04:18:23
	I got a really good green jacket, I'm telling you right now.	04:18:24
	Yeah.	04:18:28
	Can I? Can I do a little?	04:18:29
	I have a friend.	04:18:33
	That's Irish immigrant that's doing very well in this country.	04:18:35
	Can he can always because public comment.	04:18:40
	OK, so.	04:18:44
	We are deciding not. Are we talking about yourself? No.	04:18:45
	I have a friend.	04:18:51
	You guys.	04:18:57
	This is serious business.	04:18:58
	There's a lot of Irish Americans.	04:19:00
	In our country.	04:19:02
	And the holiday is celebrated worldwide now.	04:19:03
	And I.	04:19:06
	Think we should do something as.	04:19:08
	Yeah, we're dressing green and then.	04:19:10
	No proclamation. OK, I'm gonna get a certificate.	04:19:14
	How about an inspiration though?	04:19:17
	Who would you want to trade inspirations with Jess?	04:19:18
	The mayor is scheduled for inspiration on the 17th.	04:19:21
	So do you want to change? We can switch, right?	04:19:26
	OK, Do we?	04:19:29
	I swear you y'all be entertained. You'll have a great you'll get. You'll get a lot out of this.	04:19:31
	We could just do that.	04:19:39
	OK.	04:19:42
	They've got a problem.	04:19:44
	I think so, yeah.	04:19:47
	Do you have anything I do?	04:19:50
	OK, so.	04:19:52
	We talked about committees and commissions today, so I'm going to come up with a motion here, but.	04:19:53
	I do.	04:19:59
	I do want to propose staff come up.	04:20:01
	Come up with some guidelines for Veterans Advisory Commission.	04:20:05
	And this Commission would be as a resource for writing advice, making recommendations to the City Council and the manager.	04:20:09
	Impacting veterans.	04:20:16
	Additionally, this Commission would serve at a central point for coordinating the Community's efforts recruiting.	04:20:18
	Volunteers for various community driven projects such as such as veteran's day, Memorial Day.	04:20:23
	Given that we have two military bases here, we have a VFW, we have.	04:20:29
	Service members in our community and veterans in our community.	04:20:35
	Retired veterans and and.	04:20:39
	It to me, it's fitting.	04:20:42
	This this Commission.	04:20:44
	Initially can start off once 1/4.	04:20:46
	And see how this.	04:20:50
	This Commission.	04:20:52
	So I would like to make a motion.	04:20:54
	To establish, you know, have staff come come up with a.	04:20:59
	The basically coming up with a creation of a veterans.	04:21:06
	Advisory Commission.	04:21:09
	A second.	04:21:14
	No discussion.	04:21:17
	Should it?	04:21:19
	Remember, should it include?	04:21:21
	Point. That's just the question of if we want it on an agenda.	04:21:23
	So a person in the military isn't a veteran, correct?	04:21:28
	A person who is currently in the military. So what I'm trying to suggest is maybe we should broaden it.	04:21:31
	Because in.	04:21:36
	I already have a framework it, it does talk about active duty military, right? But as the motion is for veterans.	04:21:38
	No, it's all military veterans.	04:21:46
	Right, OK.	04:21:49
	You need all in favor. Aye aye, all opposed.	04:21:51
	Hearing none, motion passes unanimously.	04:21:54
	For all veterans.	04:21:58
	Is it? Yes I have one item.	04:21:59
	And City Manager, I think we've talked about it before, but I'd like to kind of.	04:22:03
	Maybe put it on agenda, talk about and see if it's something we want to do.	04:22:07
	Um, I'd like to.	04:22:11
	Add to a future agenda.	04:22:16
	Creating proclamations for our residents that turn 100.	04:22:18
	OK. Just having like a standard, just standard program.	04:22:25
	Turn 100.	04:22:32
	Of course, we know in proclamations they have to provide the information. Centennial celebration. Centennial celebration, Yeah,	04:22:33
	I'll second that.	04:22:37
	All in.	04:22:44
	Aye.	04:22:46
	All opposed.	04:22:47
	Hearing none, motion passes unanimously.	04:22:48
	Thank you. Does anyone have anything else?	04:22:51
	Nothing else.	04:22:55
	OK. Thank you. SO.	04:22:56
	Yes. Umm.	04:22:59
	So we are going to adjourn today's meeting in the memory of Mr. Orvin Carpenter.	04:22:59
	The legacy that he created during his life.	04:23:06
	And that will remain in our hearts and our history.	04:23:09
	So we'd like to adjourn there and then our next meeting is going to be Monday 17th, March 17th.	04:23:13
	At 6:30.	04:23:19
	PM meeting is adjourned.	04:23:20
	Monday, March 7th.	04:23:23
	At 9:52, Sorry.	04:23:26
	He's going to bring the green.	04:23:28

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	Meeting I'm calling this meeting to order. The time is now 530. Madam Clerk, please take a roll call.	00:01:30
	Council member Gama.	00:01:37
	Here, Councilmember Hernandez.	00:01:40
	Here, Councilmember Perez here, Mayor Pro Tem Lopez here and Mayor McQueen Le Jean here.	00:01:42
	Thank you.	00:01:49
	We will now hear public comments. Madam Clerk, do we have any comments?	00:01:50
	No public comments for closed session.	00:01:54
	Thank you.	00:01:56
	Madam Attorney, please read the closed session item into the record.	00:01:58
	Thank you, Madam Mayor.	00:02:01
	We have one conference with legal counsel anticipated litigation being brought.	00:02:03
	Pursuant to Government Code section 54956.9. Initiation of litigation pursuant to Government Code section.	00:02:08
	54956.9 D 4.	00:02:17
	The number of cases is 1.	00:02:21
	And based on.	00:02:23
	Existing facts and circumstances.	00:02:24
	The legislative body of the local agency has decided to initiate or is deciding whether to initiate litigation.	00:02:27
	Thank you. Thank you.	00:02:35
	Do any members of the Council have anything to any conflict of interest?	00:02:37
	To disclose based on the listed item.	00:02:41
	Thank you, Mayor.	00:02:44
	So as you all may recall, we were provided with the circle map, I'll call it, and it gave us a radius circle of 500 feet.	00:02:45
	With the radius dot.	00:02:54
	Be in the middle of a circle.	00:02:56
	And it went out 500 feet from the middle.	00:02:59
	And.	00:03:03
	I looked at mine a little closer and I realized that.	00:03:04
	My house was not the radius.	00:03:08
	And so.	00:03:10
	It was not.	00:03:12
	So we looked at a little closer.	00:03:13
	And determined that I was a 756 feet away from said property.	00:03:15
	And.	00:03:21
	Upon closer scrutination, scrutiny.	00:03:22
	Scrutination.	00:03:26
	Leave a scrutiny, scrutiny upon Jones, scrutination of my situation and the radius and the circle and all this.	00:03:29
	And you all got an e-mail and it turns out that.	00:03:38
	There's the absolute conflict.	00:03:41
	Between 0 and 500 feet.	00:03:43
	And there's a.	00:03:46
	Presumed.	00:03:47
	Rebuttable. Presumption of conflict. Rebuttable.	00:03:48
	Presumption. Presumption of conflict. So.	00:03:52
	If so, there, there's a way for me to say, Oh yeah, I'm I'm not going to recuse myself, but.	00:03:57
	After a considerable discussion with our legal staff and out of a.	00:04:04
	Extraordinary amount of caution.	00:04:08
	I'm going to recuse myself.	00:04:12
	And I'm gonna have.	00:04:14
	My afternoon lunch by myself.	00:04:16
	Thank you, Councilmember.	00:04:19
	Great. And thank you for communicating that.	00:04:22
	To us, yeah. And then just to finish the conversation, can we get an updated map?	00:04:25
	1000 feet from from each of council members property. That way it's very clear.	00:04:30
	It's 1000.	00:04:35
	We'll work on getting that for you. Thank you. Thank you very much.	00:04:37
	Great. Thank you. If there's nothing else, we will recess into the closed session. The time is now 533.	00:04:40
	The council meeting to.	01:01:49
	Monday, March the 20.	01:01:51
	At 6:00.	01:01:53
	30.	01:01:54
	I think you did.	01:01:58
	OK, March the 3rd, 2025.	01:02:02
	Umm, excuse me.	01:02:07
	We will now do the.	01:02:08
	Flag salute by Councilmember Gama.	01:02:13
	Put your right hand over your heart.	01:02:18
	Ready. Begin.	01:02:20
	I pledge allegiance to the flag.	01:02:22
	Of the United States of America.	01:02:25
	And to the Republic for which it stands.	01:02:27
	One Nation.	01:02:29
	To God indivisible, with liberty and justice for all, Thank you. Thank you.	01:02:31
	Thank you.	01:02:39
	Madam Clerk, will you please take a roll call, Councilmember Gama.	01:02:41
	Here. Councilmember Hernandez here.	01:02:45
	Councilmember Perez here, Mayor Pro Tem Lopez here, and Mayor McQueen Le Jean.	01:02:48
	Here. Thank you.	01:02:52
	We will now have Councilmember Perez come with our inspirational.	01:02:54
	I forgot.	01:03:00
	Think of something you want.	01:03:06
	Yes, let's move on. OK, great.	01:03:09
	So anyone else would like to say anything as an inspiration today?	01:03:12
	I would, I would like to say something, I think we were just talking about it earlier and just remind people that the FIRST	01:03:17
	robotics is taking place.	01:03:20
	At the port.	01:03:24
	This well it.	01:03:26
	Opened up this past weekend and it's going to continue into next weekend. And if you want to be inspired by a bunch of young kids	01:03:27
	who are.	01:03:32
	Excited about robotics and learning how to compete?	01:03:36
	Umm, go and attend, it's open to the public.	01:03:40
	Parking is available.	01:03:44
	I think that's one of the most inspirational things that I've.	01:03:46
	Seen in the last few weeks.	01:03:50
	Please enjoy.	01:03:52
	Yeah.	01:03:53
	During the Wine Amy beach cleanup this weekend, I.	01:03:55
	Saw a gentleman that had a robotics jacket on.	01:03:58
	And so I.	01:04:01
	Stopped him and said hey.	01:04:03
	You know there's a shuttle, he goes.	01:04:04
	Shuttle I'm gonna walk. It's not that far. And he was a coach.	01:04:06
	From Arizona.	01:04:10
	And I pulled out my phone and did a little FaceTime live interview with him and.	01:04:12
	His message?	01:04:17
	Is that the city of Winnie? Me is really nice. Everybody's really nice here.	01:04:18
	And, umm.	01:04:24
	He talked about his team.	01:04:25
	Not really.	01:04:27
	Being up there at the top echelons, but regardless, the.	01:04:28
	The experience is what it's about and they don't expect to win what they expect to compete very.	01:04:33
	Very heavily and.	01:04:38
	It was just a.	01:04:41
	Really nice way to hear.	01:04:42
	A visitor impressed with the people of our community and.	01:04:45
	It's gotten.	01:04:48
	Almost 5000 views on my Facebook account.	01:04:49
	Wonderful, wonderful.	01:04:52
	Mayor, if you don't mind, I will add something because it was mine. I apologize. I'm busy during the week. I have a busy week. My	01:04:54
	husband is.	01:04:57
	An inspiration to me. We were running yesterday.	01:05:02
	Hills at Arroyo Verde Park. I don't know if anybody's been out there to see the hills.	01:05:04
	I went the baby way and he went the crazy up the straight Cliff run all the way up and he is 55 years old and not slowing down and	01:05:09
	he.	01:05:13
	He every time we go out, do something physical.	01:05:18
	It just amazes me this. I'm never going to keep up with him and I'm eight years younger than him.	01:05:21
	Wonderful. Thank you. Thank you all for that.	01:05:26
	So we're now going to move to the closed session report. Madam City Attorney, please provide the closed session report.	01:05:29
	Thank you, Madam Mayor. There's no reportable action.	01:05:35
	Great. Thank you.	01:05:38
	Yeah, I just wanted to.	01:05:42
	Let everybody know that I recused myself because I out of an abundance of.	01:05:44
	Caution.	01:05:48
	I live.	01:05:50
	756 feet away from the property in question. So that's why it was not in closed session.	01:05:51
	Thank you.	01:05:58
	Move to public comments not pertaining to the agenda.	01:06:00
	Madam Clerk, do we have any public comments? Yes, we have public comments. We will start with Tim Rubakova and go to Elizabeth	01:06:04
	Rubber.	01:06:08
	Good evening, Mayor.	01:06:16
	City manager and council members.	01:06:18
	My name is Tim Ruble Cava.	01:06:21
	And we just moved here.	01:06:24
	From Winnie to win me.	01:06:26
	On the 3rd of February.	01:06:28
	What our concern is, is the conditional use permit the cup.	01:06:31
	Number PC.	01:06:37
	A pH CU24.	01:06:39
	One the Wine Amy Bay Wi-Fi tower.	01:06:42
	Now as new residents here at 193 W Garden Green.	01:06:46
	For Winnie me, we're writing to ask.	01:06:52
	For your reconsideration of the approval.	01:06:54
	Of the Cup.	01:06:58
	Granted to Michael Taylor, Wi-Fi Harbor.	01:07:00
	By the by the City Council here.	01:07:04
	On November 4th.	01:07:07
	As referenced above.	01:07:09
	We're asking if you can revoke.	01:07:10
	The.	01:07:13
	And reconsider.	01:07:14
	What you approved?	01:07:17
	Because we were not informed.	01:07:20
	Of the proposed installation of the 45 foot.	01:07:22
	Wireless communication tower.	01:07:25
	Which would be abutting.	01:07:28
	To our personal residence.	01:07:30
	Proper disclosure was not given to the residents of Wine Amy Bay Community.	01:07:33
	Or to us.	01:07:39
	As new homeowners, we purchase a property on February 3rd.	01:07:42
	And we're not given any consideration concerning the consequences.	01:07:46
	Of buying this property.	01:07:50
	Not by the city, the sellers or their agent.	01:07:55
	Or the Carefree Living Association at Wyoming Bay, the HOA.	01:07:59
	As part of a real estate transaction.	01:08:05
	Through our agent at Ascrow Company.	01:08:09
	We've solicited information from the HOA as well as.	01:08:12
	The sellers of the property.	01:08:16
	And we're never told about the communication tower installation.	01:08:20
	And we have engaged in an attorney.	01:08:24
	To settle the matter in court.	01:08:27
	So we ask you.	01:08:30
	Personally ask you.	01:08:31
	To reconsider.	01:08:33
	A tower should not be next to a residence which is five feet away.	01:08:35
	From our bedroom.	01:08:39
	It emits RF.	01:08:41
	Emissions.	01:08:43
	And we believe.	01:08:46
	That.	01:08:48
	It wasn't really done well on inspecting.	01:08:49
	How those emissions affect us?	01:08:54
	Cancer.	01:08:56
	You know, headaches, different things that can take place.	01:08:59
	And we're asking if you can reconsider and have an independent inspection.	01:09:03
	On that.	01:09:08
	We want to live here in peace.	01:09:10
	Want to live here?	01:09:13
	Really, we love this area.	01:09:14
	And we ask you.	01:09:17
	Please reconsider.	01:09:18
	Thank you.	01:09:20
	Thank you. Thank you so much.	01:09:21
	Elizabeth.	01:09:24
	OK.	01:09:26
	Good evening, Madam Mayor, and.	01:09:32
	Council members.	01:09:35
	City Manager.	01:09:37
	I'm born and raised in Oxnard.	01:09:39
	I know this community very well.	01:09:42
	Spent my summers at the Wine Amy beach.	01:09:44
	The beautiful city to live in.	01:09:47
	My mom lives two blocks down from the house that we purchased.	01:09:49
	And um.	01:09:53
	We were dismayed.	01:09:55
	When we learned from our neighbor Bob.	01:09:57
	That this installation this.	01:10:00
	Communications tower 45 feet tall was going to be installed.	01:10:03
	Literally right next to our bedroom window.	01:10:08
	We found this out a week after we got the keys to move in.	01:10:12
	And Bob, our neighbor, wrote a letter.	01:10:17
	To you.	01:10:21
	It was red here on November the 4th at your meeting.	01:10:22
	But it was not.	01:10:26
	There were two people here from the community who were.	01:10:28
	Customers.	01:10:31
	Of Wi-Fi.	01:10:32
	Harbor.	01:10:34
	The owner of Wi-Fi Harbor, Michael Taylor.	01:10:36
	Had an opportunity to explain to us what was happening.	01:10:39
	In the community.	01:10:42
	How I know this?	01:10:44
	Is that my husband was given his card.	01:10:45
	And we call them to get Wi-Fi service at our.	01:10:49
	New residents.	01:10:52
	He had an opportunity to tell us right then and there.	01:10:54
	What was planned?	01:10:58
	Asked for our address, my husband gave it to him.	01:11:00
	He had a conversation with my husband.	01:11:03
	Never did he explain.	01:11:06
	That this was something that they had planned to do.	01:11:08
	There's no signage.	01:11:11
	Outside on the lawn, where this place is, this communication tower is going to go.	01:11:13
	There's no communication from the Wine B Bay. This is their newsletter.	01:11:17
	This is.	01:11:22
	Something that we received after we moved in February the 14th, Valentine's Day.	01:11:23
	There's one statement in here, Wi-Fi Harbor.	01:11:28
	Has had the plans for their new tower approved by the city.	01:11:31
	Does not say what kind of tower does not list our address.	01:11:36
	But when you look at the City Council minutes, you'll see that our address, 193 W Garden Green.	01:11:39
	Is listed right there as the location for this.	01:11:45
	So I could go into a lot of reasons why this is not a good thing.	01:11:49
	There are other providers.	01:11:53
	Of Wi-Fi in the area such as Yondu.	01:11:56
	And Frontier.	01:11:58
	It was presented in such a way to this Council that this was the only.	01:12:00
	Option.	01:12:04
	Available to the residents, but that is not true.	01:12:05
	Yondu is installing fiber optics throughout the community.	01:12:09
	A much safer option.	01:12:13
	For Wi-Fi services.	01:12:15
	We currently use.	01:12:17
	Yondu, but Frontiers also in that location.	01:12:18
	Why Wi-Fi Harbor?	01:12:23
	Wants to do this.	01:12:25
	When there are other options.	01:12:27
	We cannot understand.	01:12:29
	But the right thing was not done.	01:12:32
	So we ask for your.	01:12:35
	Consideration.	01:12:37
	Great. Thank you. We're going to allow sure city manager.	01:12:38
	Yes, Thank you, Mayor.	01:12:41
	So just a couple of.	01:12:43
	Pieces of information related to this and just make sure that I know our planning team called you last week to talk about this, so	01:12:45
	just to make sure.	01:12:49
	Everybody has the same information.	01:12:53
	This is not a city project.	01:12:55
	The city is performing.	01:12:57
	This was a project on behalf of Wine Amy Bay.	01:12:58
	And so Winnie Bay.	01:13:02
	Came to the city, submitted for a.	01:13:04
	Full public hearing, and we went through that full public hearing process, my understanding.	01:13:07
	I don't have the exact dates in front of me, but my understanding is.	01:13:11
	That you moved to the residence after the public hearing and after the project was approved.	01:13:14
	So there isn't a city process to now tell those.	01:13:21
	The applicant Winnie me Bay that they can't do their project after they went through the process.	01:13:25
	I think a couple of comments we're talking about conversations with Winnie Bay and their sellers and those things and those are.	01:13:29
	Conversations that they can pursue.	01:13:35
	There isn't a process for the city to now say.	01:13:38
	A validly, rightfully issued.	01:13:42
	Project.	01:13:44
	After a full and.	01:13:46
	Legal public hearing is now invalid.	01:13:47
	So, umm.	01:13:50
	So, uh.	01:13:51
	We would suggest following up with the.	01:13:52
	People that were.	01:13:55
	Implementing that project because it's not a city project.	01:13:57
	Great. Thank you. Thank you, City Manager.	01:14:02
	So.	01:14:05
	Could you explain that we can't?	01:14:07
	Said because the items not on the agenda we are not able to discuss.	01:14:10
	The Council is not able to discuss.	01:14:13
	Great. Thank you.	01:14:17
	We do have more public, sorry about that, William Hubbard and then followed by Greg.	01:14:18
	Hi, my name is William Hubbard and I own a condo.	01:14:29
	At 643 Sunfish Way in a Surfside 3 complex.	01:14:33
	So we received a notice that they're changing.	01:14:40
	Their rules not allowing short term rentals.	01:14:44
	In that particular complex, which was the only complex?	01:14:48
	In Port Hueneme that allowed short time rentals.	01:14:52
	Since the beginning of time.	01:14:56
	And.	01:14:58
	So we.	01:14:59
	Were kind of thrown back. There's about 10 or 15 owners.	01:15:01
	Of condominiums in there that.	01:15:05
	Have short term rentals in there.	01:15:08
	So there's been a definite change in the intensity of use.	01:15:10
	Which?	01:15:15
	Is not allowing the public to have access to the beach.	01:15:17
	Because they're not allowed.	01:15:21
	To have anything less than 30 days.	01:15:23
	So we were in contact with Tyler Light Liddell.	01:15:27
	From the Coastal Commission, he's a coastal program analyst.	01:15:31
	He we explained to him that they've always allowed STR's at that complex.	01:15:36
	They said that many owners, including myself, have purchased an St. a condominium.	01:15:42
	In order to have an SDR there.	01:15:48
	So there was an assurance by the president of the homeowners association and the office manager and said.	01:15:51
	No, we don't. We don't follow that.	01:15:55
	That thing in our Hoas that says that you can't have.	01:15:59
	Anything we just, we don't want to get into litigation or anything like that.	01:16:02
	So the restrictions in the short term rentals in the coastal zone constitute.	01:16:05
	A development under the Coastal Act.	01:16:10
	And any such development is required to go through the coastal.	01:16:13
	Permitting process.	01:16:17
	With an LCP.	01:16:20
	The Coastal Act requires that either the local government.	01:16:22
	Or the Coastal Commission.	01:16:25
	Figure out what they're going to do.	01:16:29
	So I'm not exactly sure what we can do. I don't have any of the other owners here tonight.	01:16:31
	But we would like to.	01:16:37
	Find out of the city of Port Hueneme would be able to.	01:16:39
	Have them do an FCP or do something.	01:16:42
	Since it is.	01:16:48
	It's a it's really important, I think, because all of the owners.	01:16:49
	Do pay through the TLT we pay a tax.	01:16:53
	To the city of Port Hueneme, and in addition to that we have quite a few people that are constantly coming in.	01:16:58
	Pumping money into the economy of Port Hueneme.	01:17:03
	By being allowed to go to the beach, we I have a family right there right now with with two kids.	01:17:06
	In my condo.	01:17:12
	And they spend money.	01:17:14
	And I think it's really important, but I don't know what the next step would be for us. So I just want to put it out there.	01:17:16
	Well, I'm sure we'll be back to talk more about it.	01:17:21
	Thank you. Yes.	01:17:25
	So we actually discussed this on the at the last council meeting. There's a lengthy presentation that we can provide to you.	01:17:27
	And then I met with the homeowners associations on Thursday, several homeowners associations on Thursday and told them kind of the	01:17:35
	summary of what happened at that council meeting.	01:17:39
	In a very quick nutshell, because it's not on the agenda, so the Council can't discuss.	01:17:44
	Of the Council.	01:17:50
	Discussed.	01:17:52
	The key points are that Coastal Commission probably won't allow for an outright ban of short term rentals in the coastal zone.	01:17:54
	And so.	01:18:02
	The City Council authorized staff.	01:18:04
	To begin doing community outreach to ask people what sort of regulations may be desired.	01:18:07
	But.	01:18:13
	We aren't looking at it. We don't believe we can do an outright ban on short term rentals.	01:18:15
	So the short answer there is there's going to be a survey that we're putting together in a community.	01:18:19
	Conversation about short term rentals.	01:18:26
	Are the problems that people want the city to address.	01:18:29
	But it's unlikely.	01:18:32
	I think your concern was a concern that.	01:18:35
	They would be banned outright, no? OK.	01:18:37
	Completely the opposite, OK.	01:18:40
	Like to make sure that we are allowed to do that, right, according to the coastal zone, right And so.	01:18:42
	We the short answer, we can't give legal advice to the homeowners associations, but we don't believe the coastal zone would allow	01:18:48
	it.	01:18:51
	So the city, so the city is not going to.	01:18:54
	Propose something like that.	01:18:56
	At the end of the day, we.	01:18:59
	Similar to the last comment is homeowners associations may decide to try to do whatever they.	01:19:00
	Want to try to do and see if it gets challenged, but the city wouldn't be taking that approach.	01:19:06
	Mr. Greg Ross.	01:19:13
	Hello. Good evening, Mayor. Mayor Pro Tem.	01:19:22
	City Council.	01:19:25
	City Manager.	01:19:26
	Not my first rodeo here. You've seen me before.	01:19:28
	Greg Ross I've been Ventura County resident for a long time.	01:19:32
	I got a little hand out here.	01:19:37
	And I have to say that.	01:19:38
	After consideration I figured.	01:19:40
	My audio on my phone.	01:19:43
	Talking about the noise from the port is.	01:19:47
	A little too over the top.	01:19:50
	So I didn't bring my phone.	01:19:52
	So no, no sound effects here.	01:19:53
	But before I get started with the port.	01:19:56
	I wanted to say.	01:19:59
	Thank you.	01:20:01
	Each and everyone of you.	01:20:02
	For what you're doing with this new dog park.	01:20:03
	And the new work in this over near the library.	01:20:07
	It's great. It just adds to the overall.	01:20:13
	Friendliness of Port Wayne Amy we we love the city.	01:20:17
	And it's great what's going on over there. We needed a dog park. Thank you.	01:20:21
	And you probably don't hear that often enough.	01:20:26
	But.	01:20:28
	We sincerely believe that.	01:20:29
	You're doing good work here.	01:20:31
	Secondly.	01:20:33
	I want to praise the Police Department.	01:20:35
	I've had.	01:20:38
	I've lived in a lot of cities, but.	01:20:40
	Poor anemia is really near and dear to us.	01:20:42
	We.	01:20:45
	Occasionally get.	01:20:47
	Problems.	01:20:49
	Especially from the port.	01:20:50
	So about 3 weeks ago.	01:20:51
	At 12 noon, straight up.	01:20:55
	For 45 minutes there was an incessant honking from the port.	01:20:58
	You know all they have to do is lift the hood of.	01:21:04
	The vehicle.	01:21:06
	And pull out one of the plugs of the battery and it'll stop.	01:21:07
	But we called the Police Department and they were very responsive. Thank you.	01:21:11
	Chief Frederico.	01:21:16
	They they they stopped it.	01:21:17
	The Police Department showed up and they and they put a stop to it.	01:21:19
	In addition, there was.	01:21:22
	2:00 AM.	01:21:24
	Backup beeps.	01:21:26
	Warning beeps from the port.	01:21:28
	And once again I called and they took care of it.	01:21:30
	Thank you to the Police Department. I don't feel in my heart.	01:21:34
	I don't know this for a fact, but I don't feel that the.	01:21:38
	Ventura Sheriff Department would have been nearly as responsive.	01:21:42
	To this kind of a problem from the port.	01:21:47
	So.	01:21:49
	I owe a debt of gratitude to the Police Department. Thank you.	01:21:51
	So next on my my little note, maybe you all got this. I hope you did.	01:21:56
	Is.	01:22:01
	The port.	01:22:03
	We are the redheaded stepchild.	01:22:05
	To the port.	01:22:08
	I'm sorry, that's a. That's not a very positive term.	01:22:09
	And I'm going to run out of time here, but.	01:22:12
	They've got carbon pollution, they've got we've got trucks, we've got noise pollution, the winds always blowing in our direction.	01:22:15
	95% of the time.	01:22:21
	But guess what?	01:22:23
	We we have to.	01:22:25
	Suck it up and this is what we get.	01:22:27
	There's other things on this list.	01:22:30
	The most important one is this.	01:22:34
	This is in the lobby.	01:22:36
	Out front.	01:22:39
	In the City Hall.	01:22:40
	No mention.	01:22:42
	Air pollution control permits.	01:22:43
	The ports not mentioned in here. Now I know it's federal law.	01:22:45
	It's a federal place.	01:22:49
	OK, I'm gonna. I'm gonna stop.	01:22:50
	You've all got my notes.	01:22:52
	And I hope that.	01:22:54
	You understand that the port is not our friend.	01:22:56
	Thank you. Thank you for your comments. And then we just have a few written comments. Thank you.	01:23:00
	I am unaware that Councilmember Laura Hernandez.	01:23:06
	Used her elected position to undermine the hiring and the current duties of Police Chief Michael Federico.	01:23:09
	This behavior is beyond reproachable that an elected council member would use her time to negatively impact such a valued member	01:23:15
	of our community.	01:23:19
	Is truly abhorrent.	01:23:23
	I live in Port Hueneme and Winami Bay when I go to our pool or just walk around our little town within our town.	01:23:24
	I feel very safe with good reason.	01:23:30
	I often talk to my neighbors. Everyone knows Chief Rico and it's always a positive interaction.	01:23:33
	He has been here on a bike, in meetings and with other officers on the rare occasion of trouble in our suite community.	01:23:38
	He overseas the senior dinner at the Pavilion monthly that everyone thoroughly enjoys.	01:23:44
	Many of us residents in the Bay would visit the Italian restaurant he owned, Rico's.	01:23:49
	And were saddened when it closed.	01:23:54
	And elated to hear he was coming back to Port Hueneme as our chief of Police.	01:23:56
	If we see him in town, he is always, always, always happy and available for conversation.	01:24:00
	He is a pillar of strength for us.	01:24:05
	Believe me when I say to have a police chief like Chief Federico protecting us gives our community a feeling of security and calm.	01:24:07
	That, in these tumultuous times, is, well, priceless.	01:24:14
	Will Councilmember Laura Hernandez be held accountable? The community is watching. Thank you, Jody Levine.	01:24:18
	Thanks dear mayor, Mayor Pro Tem, council members and city staff.	01:24:26
	I'm writing to express concern about the ongoing threat to our infrastructure and beach access.	01:24:30
	As we rely heavily on federal funding and the Army Corps of Engineers for sand replenishment, it is crucial that the port and the	01:24:35
	city established a clear, reliable process to ensure timely, sound delivery and a plan for addressing any shortfalls when these	01:24:40
	needs are not met.	01:24:45
	From an outside perspective, it seems that each cycle brings a new process and unfortunately something always goes wrong.	01:24:50
	Once again, we find ourselves critically short of sand.	01:24:57
	With no guarantee of securing funding for future replenishment, especially with the recent federal upheaval and proposed cuts of	01:25:01
	more than 2000 federal employees.	01:25:05
	To the US Army Corps of Engineers.	01:25:10
	Is there a documented procedure for securing sound replenishment funding? Is it clear who is in the city is responsible for this	01:25:13
	task?	01:25:17
	Despite the recurring sound summit, I remain unsure of his.	01:25:21
	Its tangible outcomes.	01:25:24
	I urge the City and the board to consider requesting community benefit funds or emergency city funds.	01:25:26
	To Commission a comprehensive report that outlines the following.	01:25:32
	One A list of critical infrastructure at risk from erosion due to a lack of sound replenishment over at least 2 cycles.	01:25:36
	Including the pier, beach facilities, promenade, park, sidewalks, streets.	01:25:43
	Utilities, signage and structures.	01:25:47
	The report should also include the cost of replacing our.	01:25:49
	Or relocating these assets.	01:25:52
	Furthermore, it could consider infrastructure outside the city's jurisdiction, such as port and railway structures.	01:25:54
	#2 Alternative contractors who could assist withstand movement and replenishment #3 Alternative funding and collaboration options	01:26:01
	to ensure sound replenishment.	01:26:06
	#4 alternative solutions to sound replenishment, including nature based approaches.	01:26:11
	As sea walls and rock.	01:26:16
	Revetments offer short term fixes while exasperating sound loss.	01:26:18
	Thank you for your attention to this.	01:26:23
	Pressing issue.	01:26:25
	That was sincerely Joan.	01:26:27
	And then?	01:26:31
	If I can just note there, Mayor, that we, the council, has asked for an item.	01:26:34
	I think at a meeting or two ago for a dredge update where we would provide some information about.	01:26:39
	The incident.	01:26:47
	This year.	01:26:48
	These these processes are complicated federal and state.	01:26:49
	Processes. So the incident this year is not related to lack of funding, the funding was there.	01:26:52
	It was related to a federal.	01:26:57
	Our estate clean air requirement that the federal government did not believe they needed to meet, which led to two jurisdictions.	01:27:00
	None of them being the city.	01:27:07
	But two jurisdictions.	01:27:09
	Arguing for several months.	01:27:10
	So we'll provide an update on that and.	01:27:12
	I think the reality.	01:27:15
	At the end of the day though, is that when they're these complicated processes with federal, state.	01:27:16
	Entities. Sometimes things like these happen.	01:27:21
	But we'll provide an update on where we're at and what steps we plan to take.	01:27:24
	And and how the dredge?	01:27:31
	Just final information about the dredge now that this round is complete, so, so we'll provide that information at the next.	01:27:34
	Council meeting.	01:27:41
	Great. Thank you.	01:27:42
	Madam Clerk, are there any other? Yeah, one more. And then I just wanted to note this one was exceeded the 500 word limit, so I	01:27:44
	will read only up to the fifth hundred word.	01:27:47
	Would like to discuss the waste of time and tax funds spent on bogus parking enforcement citations.	01:27:52
	Question Why would residents ask permission to temporarily park in a public St.	01:27:58
	The trailer will be there for less than 36 hours and all municipal codes are being followed.	01:28:02
	Received citation warning Municipal Code 3241 for not contacting parking enforcement part prior to parking on Public St.	01:28:08
	Number one Municipal Code 3241 states vehicles and excess of £6000 are prohibited from parking and public St.	01:28:17
	Our travel trailer does not exceed 6000 lbs.	01:28:24
	The municipal code does not state that parking enforcement needs to be advised of such vehicles on the public St. prior to parking	01:28:27
	them.	01:28:31
	#2 Municipal Code 3267 states that a trailer must be attached to a vehicle capable of moving a trailer in a normal manner upon the	01:28:34
	street. This was not mentioned in the citation warning, but quite relevant to trailer owners of Winnie Mean.	01:28:41
	I am familiar with our municipal codes as a responsible trailer owner and resident.	01:28:48
	The trailer in question is parked without blocking our driveway or neighbors. It is under the 6000 lbs weight limit mentioned in	01:28:52
	Municipal Code 3241.	01:28:57
	We arrived after 10:00 PM on Sunday night. It is hitched to a truck and can.	01:29:01
	Capable of being moved.	01:29:06
	We have 0 history of issues with parking our trailer on the public St. long term.	01:29:08
	However, requiring residents to ask for permission or notify the city to use a public St. for less than 72 hours.	01:29:12
	Especially when following the municipal codes is overstepping of power by our city and staff.	01:29:19
	References and photos provided below.	01:29:24
	Division Nine. Stopping standing and parking for certain purposes or in certain places. Code of ordinances for Winnie California	01:29:26
	Municipal Code Library.	01:29:30
	3241 for her.	01:29:34
	Prohibition of stopping parking or standing.	01:29:36
	No person shall stop, park or leave standing any vehicle, whether attended or unattended, except when necessary.	01:29:39
	To avoid conflict with other traffic or in compliance with the directions of a peace officer or official traffic control device in	01:29:44
	any of the following places.	01:29:48
	A crosswalk, except that a bus engaged as a common carrier or taxicab may stop to load or unload passengers.	01:29:53
	Be within 15 feet of the driveway entrance to any fire station other than fire department vehicles.	01:29:59
	Or within 15 feet of a fire hydrant.	01:30:05
	See in front of a public or private driveway.	01:30:07
	See on any public sidewalk.	01:30:10
	E alongside or opposite any street or highway excavation or obstruction.	01:30:12
	F on the roadway side of any vehicle parked or standing at the curb or edge of the roadway. G with any Parkway.	01:30:17
	Age on another truck.	01:30:24
	On other than a truck route, if a vehicle is in excess of 6000 lbs weight.	01:30:25
	3267 Parking of trailer semi trailers and trailer coaches prohibited.	01:30:30
	No person shall park or leave standing any trailer, semi trailer or trailer coach on any city street unless the same as attached	01:30:35
	to a vehicle capable of moving the trailer.	01:30:40
	Semi trailer or trailer coach in a normal manner?	01:30:44
	That is by Hilda Ocampo.	01:30:47
	And that concludes public comment.	01:30:49
	Mayor, if I could on that one, I'll just say that sounds complicated, but.	01:30:51
	I'm gonna ask our team. I don't know the answer to that one. I had not heard.	01:30:56
	Any details about this prior to the meeting? So I'll just ask our team to review it and get back to the resident. Thank you.	01:31:01
	And we do thank everyone for your public comments this evening. We're going to move to the agenda approval.	01:31:09
	May I have a motion and a second to approve the agenda so move?	01:31:14
	2nd.	01:31:20
	All in.	01:31:22
	Aye, all opposed.	01:31:23
	Hearing none, motion passes unanimously.	01:31:25
	All right, do we have any members of the Council with any conflict of interest to disclose regarding the agenda items?	01:31:28
	OK. If not, we're going to move to our first presentation from Mr. Ali Qasimi.	01:31:38
	Air pollution control officer.	01:31:44
	On behalf of the Ventura County Air Pollution Board District.	01:31:46
	Good evening, Mayor, Doctor John and council members.	01:31:50
	I was asked by Doctor Lejeune to stop by to introduce myself.	01:31:55
	And give you a brief description of what we do and if there is any question.	01:32:00
	I would be able to answer.	01:32:04
	My name is Ali Qasemi. I'm the Executive Officer of Air Pollution Control District, Adventurous County.	01:32:07
	And Ventura County. We are a special agency we founded in 1968 to improve the air quality in Ventura County.	01:32:13
	He says sizable county. We have about 2200 square miles, 850,000 residents.	01:32:22
	1300 stationary source facilities that we permit and more than 820,000 vehicles.	01:32:28
	Where with regular actually we authorized to regulate the stationary sources.	01:32:35
	We have 47 employee skilled full-time employees.	01:32:42
	Our mission is to protect public health and agriculture from the adverse effect.	01:32:48
	Of air pollution.	01:32:52
	In order to do that, we develop a comprehensive programs and we have to meet the state and federal standards.	01:32:53
	Or we have a ABCD board that consists of 10 members. There are 5 country supervisor and five City Council members.	01:33:02
	And their position are to adopt and amend rules and regulations and air quality manage to approve air quality management plan and	01:33:11
	and our annual budget and general policy procedure directives.	01:33:17
	We have other committees as well that those are the standing committee, advisory committee, that it is part of our process.	01:33:24
	We as a general, we.	01:33:34
	We are very.	01:33:37
	We just regulate.	01:33:39
	Stationary sources.	01:33:41
	And we have a limited authority as compared with federal and state that they have broader authority regarding mobile sources and	01:33:43
	other.	01:33:48
	The sources of a mission that we do not have, we only control.	01:33:52
	Actually a stationary sources.	01:33:56
	For the sake of the time I'm just not going to go through the detail, but I left a copy for you guys in case if you're interested.	01:34:01
	What we do is regulate facilities. They start start from gas station dry cleaners, small auto body shops.	01:34:08
	And it continued to go to other manufacturing operations, which treatment plant, chemical plant, landfills, oil and gas production	01:34:14
	facilities, which are the big facilities.	01:34:19
	We have about 16 major facilities and only.	01:34:24
	Non major sources about like 1200 to 1300 facilities.	01:34:28
	That we regulate.	01:34:32
	We have the key APCD programs are.	01:34:37
	Monitoring, planning, rule development, permit processing, compliance and incentive program.	01:34:40
	These are the key APCD program.	01:34:45
	Monitoring we have, we monitor the air quality in the Ventura County. We have 5 monitoring station throughout the southern port	01:34:48
	portion of the county, which is very populated.	01:34:53
	And we forecast air quality to the public and we also do do issue air quality and smoke alert.	01:34:58
	Planning a rural development as I said, we develop rules which is a road map to how we meet the.	01:35:08
	Federal and state standard.	01:35:14
	We also develop rules and regulation as well.	01:35:16
	To make sure that we meet those standards.	01:35:19
	For permit processing, any equipment that emits any of any emissions, we control and we issue a permit to the equipment that they	01:35:22
	have.	01:35:26
	That's what they call it, a stationary source.	01:35:30
	We have about 1300 permitted facility as I mentioned.	01:35:33
	And we make sure that they all have the best available control technology on them.	01:35:36
	And we when they get the permit, we set permit condition to limit their emissions.	01:35:40
	Compliance division we do annually about 2500 enforcement activity.	01:35:46
	And we response to nuisance complaints, any notices and we issue noticeable compliance and notices of notices of violations.	01:35:51
	And they are the one enforcing the permit conditions that we have on these equipment for on these facilities.	01:35:59
	As I mentioned, we have very limited authority and we do, we just do.	01:36:08
	Regulate stationary sources but.	01:36:13
	We have incentive program which is very successful. We get annually about 5 to $10 million.	01:36:16
	That we incentivize.	01:36:21
	For facilities or for.	01:36:24
	Applicants that they change their equipment, mobile equipment, off-road equipment.	01:36:26
	To something a newer or better or.	01:36:32
	Very less immediate equipment.	01:36:36
	These like we change AG equipment, tractors, construction equipment, offered equipment, marine vessels.	01:36:39
	And we pay even for EV charging is infrastructure and ocean going vessel. The speed reduction program is another received	01:36:46
	incentive program that we have.	01:36:51
	They're all covered under several incentive programs. They are called Call Moyer Program, Farmer Program, and Community Air	01:36:56
	Protection Program.	01:37:01
	And we have other.	01:37:06
	Program as well which as my as I mentioned like protecting blue whales, blue sky and this is.	01:37:07
	For the like a VSR program that we have.	01:37:15
	OK. I just want to go briefly and explain about the pyramid processing that we have.	01:37:25
	When any.	01:37:30
	A new app actually facility comes in or any facility that they want to change their equipment or modify their equipment, increase	01:37:32
	their throughput.	01:37:36
	Or add another equipment they got to file an.	01:37:40
	Application with us.	01:37:43
	This application is for example they call it authority to construct application.	01:37:44
	Then from the authority construct when they file.	01:37:49
	We have within 30 days we have to get back to them and say that for example you're we need additional information or information	01:37:52
	that you submitted is complete.	01:37:55
	When that happens.	01:37:59
	In it takes us another month or two, we issue a permit to construct they issued after the permit to construct is issued as permit	01:38:01
	of permit to construct, it's going to have a set of permit conditions.	01:38:07
	Then they're gonna go and finish their construction. They're gonna come back to us and they say the construction are done. If	01:38:13
	there are sources that they have to comply, they have to do, you're gonna make sure that they do it. So we check everything to see	01:38:17
	if this equipment was built.	01:38:22
	Based on the condition that we it was set for that facility.	01:38:27
	Then we're going to issue a permit, temporary permit to operate and then after that we're going to have.	01:38:30
	Permit to operate and this is the time that they they're going to continue with their operation.	01:38:36
	Couple of rules that would they are very important is rule 10 that tells them.	01:38:42
	You need the application for Permit to Construct and Permit to Operate.	01:38:46
	Rule 23 is.	01:38:49
	If you check and say that my equipment is not subject to any permitting, so these are exempt equipment per se.	01:38:51
	And I said.	01:38:59
	When the application is completed, we do permit like we do emission calculation.	01:39:00
	We evaluate to see if there is any control equipment is needed, What is the best available control technology for that type of	01:39:05
	equipment and if.	01:39:09
	There are like we check NSR rule, news source review rule and we establish permit condition for those.	01:39:14
	Move too fast.	01:39:30
	OK. And sometimes there is a equipment which is within 1000 feet of a facility that requires public noticing?	01:39:38
	Noticing.	01:39:46
	Issue a public notice to all of the kids that goes to that.	01:39:47
	School and also.	01:39:51
	All of the residential within 1/4 of a mile of that facility.	01:39:53
	And we there is an annual permit renewal fee associated with these permits too.	01:39:56
	Now new source review is an important rule for us is rule 26.	01:40:04
	And that means that.	01:40:09
	There is no like if you want to add any equipment to your facility if you modifying your equipment at the facility.	01:40:11
	There is a zero net emission. That means you cannot do that unless you provide offset.	01:40:18
	Or there is a reduction somewhere?	01:40:23
	So.	01:40:26
	We apply the best available control technology to reduce those emissions.	01:40:27
	And if there are any offset requirements, we're going to ask the facility to provide those offsets. There is a threshold that	01:40:31
	offset is required and that's 5 tons per per year of Roc and five tonnes per year of Knox.	01:40:37
	And these offset requirement is a very complicated.	01:40:43
	Still actually certification.	01:40:47
	Calculation being conducted. I'm not going to go through that, just know that there is a.	01:40:49
	Zero increase.	01:40:54
	From the new source review rules that we have.	01:40:55
	Like any emission that is being added has to be offset.	01:40:59
	That's all I had and I'm ready to answer any question you may have.	01:41:03
	Thank you.	01:41:07
	Any questions? Any questions?	01:41:09
	Councilmember Gamma.	01:41:11
	Thank you for the.	01:41:13
	Excuse me, presentation.	01:41:15
	Just reminded me something.	01:41:17
	I remember when we ran into the air.	01:41:20
	Pollution credit issue last time with the dredge cycle.	01:41:23
	Basically, we ran out of.	01:41:27
	Air pollution credits.	01:41:28
	And, umm.	01:41:30
	You view the position is is that the dredge equipment is stationary.	01:41:32
	I think we had a little bit of a discussion on that, yes, so.	01:41:38
	So you view it as a stationary.	01:41:43
	Not you, but the rules regulations view the dredge operation as a stationary even though it's constantly moving.	01:41:46
	It's a mob source. It doesn't require any permit, however.	01:41:53
	They have prep equipment. This is a portable like engines that they have.	01:41:58
	That they are purpose certified. That means state.	01:42:04
	Already certified this.	01:42:07
	When you have a per.	01:42:10
	Based on the state.	01:42:12
	Regulation if you have your utilizing any perp.	01:42:14
	Equipment. Any engine, let's say.	01:42:18
	In a territorial water.	01:42:20
	And if you require.	01:42:22
	Like you, if you your emission is high, you're required to provide offsets now.	01:42:24
	As soon as they said you're required to provide offsets, there is a way we have to have a control over how much emission those.	01:42:30
	Perp engine is going to create correct?	01:42:38
	In order for us to keep track of that offset, we have to issue a permit.	01:42:41
	It's not that.	01:42:45
	Your dredging operation requires a permit from this. It's not the stationary source.	01:42:47
	It is a mobile source.	01:42:51
	Was because of the state rule.	01:42:53
	That requires those, let's say.	01:42:55
	Construction that it's a lot of construction, a lot of emissions that require offset because it's more than 5 tons per year of	01:42:57
	Roc.	01:43:01
	And five times per year of Nogs.	01:43:05
	They have to keep track of it. In order for us to keep track of it, we have to issue a permit.	01:43:07
	So when I ship.	01:43:12
	Docks at the port of.	01:43:14
	Wanimi, yes.	01:43:16
	It is not treated as a stationary no emission object. No, that's a federal source that is being regulated by federal, not even for	01:43:17
	it by state, however.	01:43:22
	If that ships comes in and.	01:43:27
	Like we see visible emission from this stack of the ships.	01:43:29
	Up to December time frame, we had no control over it. Like we couldn't even enforce it.	01:43:34
	But in December, we went to our board and.	01:43:40
	Doctor Rajan and.	01:43:43
	All of my board member approved the MO U that we made with.	01:43:44
	State of California.	01:43:49
	That right now we can enforce that visible emission.	01:43:51
	Because we have a rule 51 that says nuisance.	01:43:54
	Any nuisance is going to happen. We can control over it, but it was mobile sources. But right now because of the MOU that we have,	01:43:58
	we have control of enforcement and giving tickets and notice of violation.	01:44:04
	Are you familiar with the stacks equipment that the port recently brought in? I think it's something that system.	01:44:10
	You know, it's it's a.	01:44:16
	It's a scrubbing system.	01:44:19
	Is they call it bonnet system?	01:44:20
	It's a bonnet system, but that it goes over the stack of the ships.	01:44:22
	And is called like. It operates like a scrubber. It's the filter.	01:44:27
	95 to 99% efficiency based on the state certification.	01:44:32
	OK, so you don't?	01:44:38
	Oversee that at all.	01:44:39
	OK.	01:44:41
	That's all I have.	01:44:45
	OK, umm.	01:44:46
	Mayor Pro Tem.	01:44:48
	Yes, and in one of your slides you had.	01:44:49
	You had the county broken in.	01:44:51
	And it looked like Port Hueneme was in zone 1.	01:44:54
	Compared to all other.	01:44:57
	Zones in Ventura County How is our air pollution compared to?	01:44:59
	The other.	01:45:04
	Cities. Unfortunately I don't have that information available, but.	01:45:05
	Even let's say for example, Porter by name.	01:45:09
	Puerto Vanie has.	01:45:12
	Probably uh.	01:45:14
	Most of the facility that you have the station resources I'm referring to.	01:45:15
	There are small sources.	01:45:19
	But you're next to Oxnard.	01:45:20
	Oxnard, for example, they have.	01:45:22
	New indie. We have a voice wastewater treatment facility. So if you ask me.	01:45:24
	How port of my name is if based on just number of?	01:45:30
	Facilities that you have in Puerto Valley, which they are a small facility.	01:45:33
	Nothing.	01:45:37
	You cannot just say the emissions are perfect because.	01:45:38
	The wind direction has more effect on how the pollution is going to move from one location to another location.	01:45:41
	And you have Oxnard next to you that they have.	01:45:48
	Two large facility in.	01:45:50
	But umm.	01:45:52
	We have monitoring station in five locations that if you you look at that and then.	01:45:53
	Based on those monitoring, we are monitoring and we trying to uniformly to find out how the county is doing to meet the federal	01:45:59
	and state standards, OK.	01:46:04
	Also, umm.	01:46:10
	How much How much of the county are you guys federally funded?	01:46:12
	Knowing that, you know, there might be a squeeze in federal funding in the future.	01:46:18
	Well, there are EPA funds actually funds that is coming to air pollution control district if you ask me for example about like.	01:46:23
	Eight to 10% of.	01:46:31
	Our font is coming from EPA.	01:46:33
	Be federal funds.	01:46:35
	But this is.	01:46:37
	Actually, we are completely in order for us to implement.	01:46:38
	Federal standards and everything, they are helping all of the district is not only Ventura County.	01:46:42
	But ours is about like probably about 8 to 10% those fund hasn't been touched because.	01:46:47
	Local agency cannot operate without those funds. Those are funds to assist the agency, local agency to implement the federal	01:46:53
	requirements to meet the standards. Now there are other funds, federal funds that we are getting through the incentive programs	01:46:58
	that we have.	01:47:02
	Fortunately, the ones that we have.	01:47:08
	Hasn't been touched.	01:47:11
	So if you are telling me for example, how well we are doing with the federal funds?	01:47:12
	In fiscal year 2425, we are doing fine. Nothing has been freeze, nothing.	01:47:17
	Like we are getting out of the money in our account.	01:47:21
	If you ask me, what's going to happen in 2526?	01:47:25
	Based on the conversation that I have had with EPA staff.	01:47:28
	These are today's information.	01:47:32
	Tomorrow may be different, so I cannot tell you that.	01:47:35
	Thank you.	01:47:38
	No problem.	01:47:39
	Any other questions?	01:47:40
	Councilmember Hernandez.	01:47:42
	Thank you, Mayor.	01:47:43
	Thank you for the presentation. I remember you coming last year and.	01:47:44
	I learned something every every time you come. No problem. Yeah. I didn't know about the stationary versus non stationary	01:47:48
	equipment and the regulations authority you have over only the stationary.	01:47:54
	And then your part in the dredging also, that was quite informative. Thank you, Mr. Gama, for that question.	01:48:00
	I attended the OR. I listened in on the Orman Power plant. Umm.	01:48:07
	Lease extension meeting.	01:48:12
	On set, I think was Saturday night, Friday night, Saturday night.	01:48:15
	Do you have any jurisdictional authority over what's going on there with the not the extension? We don't. But if Ormond Beach	01:48:19
	start operating, if the extension is being given?	01:48:25
	All of these stationary sources is going to be under our permits and then we enforce all of the rules and regulations.	01:48:31
	And based on your knowledge of the wind direction, does the wind normally?	01:48:37
	Low SE Or is it just?	01:48:42
	It's hard to say.	01:48:46
	It varies.	01:48:48
	Usually the morning and the evening wind direction are different, so.	01:48:51
	So OK.	01:48:56
	Thank you.	01:48:58
	No problem. Any other questions?	01:48:59
	If there are no other questions, thank you so much, Mr. Cassini. Thank you. And I'm glad that I was here to explain what we do	01:49:02
	and.	01:49:05
	If you guys have any questions, if there is anything I can help you with, just reach out.	01:49:08
	And thank you, Doctor Lejeune, for asking me to be here.	01:49:13
	Great. Thank you so much. Thank you.	01:49:15
	We will now move on to presentation #2 I'll go ahead and turn it over to our City Manager.	01:49:19
	Thank you. And I'm going to introduce Public Works Director Fred Camarillo to give.	01:49:25
	A presentation on this project, I just want to start by saying everybody may remember is about a year ago where we realized that.	01:49:30
	One of our critical.	01:49:39
	Sewer main lines was a.	01:49:41
	About to fail and cause major issues and we talked at that time about.	01:49:44
	Sort of multiple problems that that would cause including, you know, St. closures and, and limited access to businesses and all of	01:49:49
	those things.	01:49:53
	And, umm.	01:49:57
	Our public works team really jumped on it, came up with.	01:50:00
	A really good solution that really.	01:50:04
	Addressed a lot of those concerns that we had and they we are now closing that project out and we wanted to take an opportunity to	01:50:08
	let the Public works department talk about.	01:50:13
	How they did this project?	01:50:18
	Better, umm.	01:50:20
	So with that, I'll hand it off to Mr. Camarillo.	01:50:20
	Thank you. Good evening, Mayor. Mayor Pro Tem.	01:50:26
	Council members of the audience.	01:50:28
	We'll get into this here.	01:50:33
	As you know, it's a sewer force main that.	01:50:36
	Failed on us that we needed to get repaired.	01:50:40
	So this first slide is just kind of gives some information about some of the things that happen.	01:50:44
	And a couple slides, you'll see some things that will make some of these things make more sense.	01:50:49
	You see, their lift station is actually.	01:50:54
	A central location that pumps are at that move that water from one elevation to another so it can continue on its journey.	01:50:57
	The force main is that pumped water that's going down the line, whereas opposed to gravity sewers like that are in most of the	01:51:05
	residential areas.	01:51:10
	Leaves a building or a house.	01:51:14
	Under gravity and then continues to flow all the way.	01:51:17
	And in some cases.	01:51:21
	To a lift station because we're so close to the beach.	01:51:23
	It has to be.	01:51:28
	Pumped up so it can continue on its journey.	01:51:30
	The pipe that.	01:51:34
	Failed was.	01:51:35
	Something that's called ACP asbestos concrete pipe.	01:51:37
	And you'll see in a couple of slides here.	01:51:41
	It was hydrogen sulfide that ended up attacking the inside of that pipe.	01:51:46
	It's concrete based, So what happens is the bacteria in there?	01:51:51
	Ends up.	01:51:55
	Reacting with the material.	01:51:56
	And it creates sulfuric acid which starts to corrode stuff away so.	01:51:57
	That was the type of pipe that we were dealing with.	01:52:03
	The type of pipe that we replaced it with HTTP.	01:52:06
	And we'll have some.	01:52:10
	Things here that.	01:52:12
	We can show you.	01:52:13
	What it is? This is a cross section of.	01:52:15
	What we ended up putting in.	01:52:18
	Another line.	01:52:21
	Which I'll get to too, but that is now the.	01:52:22
	Pipe that all of our.	01:52:25
	Flow goes through now.	01:52:27
	Could you share with everybody how you got that pipe over the wall and into the trench? Because I thought that was amazing.	01:52:29
	That's a public works manager, Brian Fomenko, to come up here and explain that he was.	01:52:37
	The one that is.	01:52:43
	Was out there, I mean if you drove by at anytime of the during.	01:52:45
	That whole project, Brian was out there day-to-day, so.	01:52:49
	If you'd like to.	01:52:52
	Answer Council.	01:52:54
	To answer that.	01:52:58
	Oh, sorry, we're getting ahead of ourselves. So to answer that.	01:53:00
	There was a the last section we were to deal with.	01:53:03
	Well, we had two ways of being able to push that pipe through and he was either.	01:53:06
	Over the wall.	01:53:10
	Or through Ventura Rd. at short interval sections.	01:53:11
	So we chose to fuse it all together at one time.	01:53:16
	And then we brought it over the wall. We had excavators and backhoes.	01:53:19
	Holding up on each side of the wall so that we weren't on top of.	01:53:23
	Scrivener's Wall.	01:53:26
	And then we pulled it through.	01:53:28
	The section as you see right there, that's the last of it right there.	01:53:30
	7600 and something odd feet. That's the end of it, as it was.	01:53:34
	Being pulled towards Ventura Rd.	01:53:38
	And then lastly the.	01:53:44
	Pipe that we ended up using as what we.	01:53:46
	Call a host pipe to pull that pipe through.	01:53:49
	Is a clay pipe.	01:53:53
	And that was something that we ended up.	01:53:56
	Using once we got a little bit further when it first happened.	01:54:00
	There was a hole, a sinkhole developed.	01:54:06
	It was identified that there was.	01:54:09
	An issue with that pipe.	01:54:11
	Immediately took to the task of getting that fixed first.	01:54:15
	At that same time, we realized.	01:54:19
	We could see the condition of the pipe and we knew that it was not going to last. So we had to figure out something else in order	01:54:22
	to make sure that we didn't continue to have incident after incident like this. So.	01:54:27
	Here you'll see.	01:54:35
	That's the pipe that came out of the ground right there where that original.	01:54:37
	Break was right here on Ventura and Pearl Street.	01:54:41
	It was installed in the 60s. Generally those things have.	01:54:45
	What are expected to be like 75 year life. So it didn't last quite that long.	01:54:50
	When we started thinking about why maybe that didn't last as long, there was a couple of things.	01:54:55
	Over the years, through our.	01:55:01
	Master plan for fixing our wastewater system.	01:55:03
	We've diverted other.	01:55:07
	Sewage going around the city into different areas. At one time that pipe was completely full all the time.	01:55:10
	When we made the improvements to some of the other locations, that became a pipe that was running probably like half full, maybe	01:55:18
	3/4 full.	01:55:21
	But that also gave.	01:55:26
	Sulfuric acid the chance because it's exposed to the air to start developing and probably was the reason for deteriorating the	01:55:28
	pipe faster.	01:55:32
	So as I mentioned.	01:55:39
	That we fix what we could.	01:55:40
	We.	01:55:42
	Crossed our fingers and ordered extra parts and hope that.	01:55:44
	It wouldn't break again while we figured out what else.	01:55:48
	To do it in order to make a permanent.	01:55:51
	Repair on that.	01:55:53
	In that slide there, you'll see that line that was repaired.	01:55:55
	Convey sewage out of all of the base which is highlighted there in the yellow striping.	01:56:00
	And then all that area there that's.	01:56:05
	It's hard to see on there, but I believe it's orange striping running through there.	01:56:08
	And the key thing on that is is that.	01:56:12
	It's you can't shut that off.	01:56:16
	Because stuff's happening.	01:56:18
	24 hours a day.	01:56:20
	And that particular line handles about 1,000,000 gallons of sewage every day.	01:56:22
	So we didn't have an option of saying, well, we'll just.	01:56:27
	Not allow anybody to.	01:56:31
	Use their facilities anymore that wasn't.	01:56:34
	That wasn't an option.	01:56:36
	So.	01:56:39
	We went ahead and.	01:56:41
	Started looking how can we do this? That line runs from essentially the intersection of Pleasant Valley.	01:56:44
	And Ventura Rd.	01:56:49
	And runs all the way down.	01:56:51
	Ventura Road and then turn South and runs underneath Surfside Village.	01:56:53
	Through the RV lot that's back there.	01:56:58
	And then from there it goes and continues on its way through the park and.	01:57:00
	To the treatment plant.	01:57:04
	So it was 4200.	01:57:05
	Approximately 4200 linear feet.	01:57:07
	That we had to get replaced.	01:57:10
	And some of those challenges.	01:57:13
	Or because Ventura Rd. as you all know, is.	01:57:16
	It's a major artery through our city, so.	01:57:20
	There's all kinds of utilities running under the ground.	01:57:22
	A lot of things that.	01:57:26
	Could have prevented.	01:57:27
	Easy construction of a line if we had to do that.	01:57:30
	We started out assuming that's what we were going to have to do and we.	01:57:35
	You can see there's some preliminary drawings that our engineering team came up with.	01:57:40
	And we had determined at that point.	01:57:45
	We're going to have to have a bypass to get all of that.	01:57:47
	Flow through.	01:57:50
	And when we were first looking at it, we were going to have to shut off all of the.	01:57:52
	Turn pockets to pretty much every street crossing out onto Ventura Rd.	01:57:55
	In order to be able to.	01:57:59
	Get that there or have to go underground.	01:58:02
	In certain sections, which would have caused its own problems because now you're creating a line that's going up and down.	01:58:04
	It would have been, it would have been very disruptive.	01:58:11
	In the beginning, though, that's what we thought was going to be our really our only option.	01:58:15
	And as we started going through plans and and this preliminary first design, we realized that.	01:58:22
	Oxnard and.	01:58:28
	Had a line that they no longer use they had abandoned several years earlier.	01:58:29
	So we reached out to them to see if they were interested in.	01:58:34
	Letting us have that line.	01:58:39
	A couple things we wanted to do was get permission.	01:58:42
	To go ahead and inspect that line to make sure that it was still viable.	01:58:45
	And then two.	01:58:49
	We were going to have to workout something with them in order for them to want to give us that line.	01:58:52
	Ultimately, they did.	01:58:58
	In July of last year, their council approved the sale of the line. It was $20,000 in change.	01:59:01
	Which they had determined to be the.	01:59:06
	Remaining undepreciated value of that line.	01:59:09
	Umm, so.	01:59:14
	That became.	01:59:15
	Our hose pipe which essentially that thing got taken through.	01:59:16
	Which was great because we knew with that line.	01:59:21
	It was installed already, so we didn't have to worry about anything else crossing in its way or doing anything we wouldn't be	01:59:24
	surprised with.	01:59:28
	Things nearly as much as if we would have tried to do it some other way.	01:59:32
	So there's the overhead shot of.	01:59:39
	The Winnemi Rd. in Ventura Rd.	01:59:41
	And you can see one of the things that were like as I was mentioning.	01:59:46
	All of the underground stuff that's there that would have posed a conflict.	01:59:50
	To try and get around and all these things that.	01:59:54
	Are at different heights.	01:59:57
	That.	01:59:59
	Could have very well been.	02:00:00
	Something that stopped what we wanted to do.	02:00:02
	But once we knew that, we had that line.	02:00:06
	We could then go ahead and decide.	02:00:09
	Here's how we got to get.	02:00:13
	From point A to point B now because we have use of something new.	02:00:15
	It's still required to bypass, which was done.	02:00:20
	We were able to use the existing line.	02:00:22
	The damage line.	02:00:25
	While we were still waiting to get some of the other things set up.	02:00:27
	Fortunately for us, it.	02:00:31
	Worked and we didn't have any other issues with that line while that was happening.	02:00:33
	Here you see this is.	02:00:43
	Running along the backside of the railroad in between Surfside Village and the railroad tracks there.	02:00:45
	That's the bypass that we ran above ground.	02:00:52
	And dumped into a manhole that's there within the park.	02:00:56
	So all of that million gallons a day was running through this pipe here.	02:01:00
	Again.	02:01:07
	Being able to do it the way we ended up doing it.	02:01:09
	Really.	02:01:12
	Caused, I think, the least amount of headache that we could have hoped for.	02:01:14
	So we had a couple of shutdowns that had to happen, which required us coordinating with the Navy base.	02:01:25
	In order to be able to.	02:01:32
	Get that work done.	02:01:35
	We got that done.	02:01:38
	And then?	02:01:39
	When the permanent.	02:01:40
	There's a bunch of moving parts going on at the same time.	02:01:42
	But ultimately we had another shutdown.	02:01:46
	That was.	02:01:49
	Go ahead and make the final tie Insurance which?	02:01:50
	Then would put that new line fully in service.	02:01:53
	Got a short clip on?	02:01:58
	Video here. That's the actual footage of.	02:01:59
	The pipe being pulled through the Oxnard well, now our line.	02:02:03
	Place.	02:02:10
	So.	02:02:20
	Voice Construction was our contractor.	02:02:22
	You know, we, we did a lot of.	02:02:26
	Planning with them.	02:02:27
	Setting up how we were going to get things where we're going to.	02:02:29
	Set materials at.	02:02:33
	When we were.	02:02:34
	Going to do some of these.	02:02:36
	Parts of the project.	02:02:38
	We had to do the tie insurance at night just simply because.	02:02:40
	It's way less flow that you're having to deal with.	02:02:43
	So they work with us on that.	02:02:46
	We went ahead and.	02:02:50
	Started going down Ventura Rd. pulling this line through and on that little blue.	02:02:53
	Circle on the bottom. There you see the white circle inside the blue circle that's.	02:02:59
	Kind of to show a different view of how.	02:03:03
	That pipe.	02:03:07
	Looks inside the other line.	02:03:08
	And then the end, we ended up filling that.	02:03:10
	Void space between the two.	02:03:12
	With the material that.	02:03:14
	Is there?	02:03:16
	So it's a.	02:03:17
	It's a lightweight.	02:03:19
	Concrete foam so.	02:03:20
	It'll give support to the other pipe and I'll keep.	02:03:23
	Our new line from moving so much inside that line.	02:03:26
	So.	02:03:30
	There you have some pictures. This is.	02:03:33
	I believe the final tie in.	02:03:36
	Right there in the middle of we had to shut down the entire intersection at Pleasant Valley and.	02:03:38
	And Ventura?	02:03:43
	To make sure that we could.	02:03:45
	Give the contractor.	02:03:47
	All the ability they needed to do what they needed to do.	02:03:50
	Again, a coordination with.	02:03:58
	The Navy base in order to make sure.	02:04:00
	We had to control.	02:04:02
	Their stations, too.	02:04:04
	To make sure that we had.	02:04:07
	The flow controlled enough so while all this was taking place.	02:04:10
	We had trucks big. I don't know if you saw him while the work was going on. We had.	02:04:14
	Big vacuum trucks where essentially we shut everything down and we had the trucks pulling all of that.	02:04:18
	Out from.	02:04:24
	Pumping stations.	02:04:25
	And then drove it around and down past so, and then they were emptying back into a manhole that was downstream.	02:04:27
	So that was all done mechanically with a truck, with several trucks.	02:04:33
	But again.	02:04:38
	That allowed this to go ahead and take place.	02:04:40
	Here you got.	02:04:45
	A list of the different people.	02:04:46
	Obviously, city of Oxnard.	02:04:48
	They work with us.	02:04:50
	We got that line from them, which was a tremendous help.	02:04:53
	Blois was our contractor. Elite was the contractor that did the initial failure when it happened.	02:04:57
	They made that repair.	02:05:03
	Patriot whereas.	02:05:05
	Vacuum trucks that.	02:05:07
	Work with us while we had the shutdowns.	02:05:09
	Confoam is the supplier of.	02:05:12
	A little foam there.	02:05:15
	That we have.	02:05:18
	We had soils, engineers and V5.	02:05:19
	Did some manhole rehab work on that?	02:05:22
	Where all these things tied in San Con Fam Con is a local supplier of pipes and.	02:05:25
	They did a great job working with Brian on.	02:05:32
	Sourcing things because some of these things were an odd size and it was very difficult to try and track down, but they work with	02:05:36
	Brian really well and.	02:05:40
	Made sure that we were able to get what we needed in order to make sure this thing.	02:05:45
	Repaired right?	02:05:48
	And then our initial.	02:05:50
	Inspection of the line.	02:05:53
	Of Oxnard's line to make sure that it was going to.	02:05:54
	Be useful for us.	02:05:57
	We had national plant services.	02:05:58
	Do that.	02:06:01
	I'm not going to read through all of that, but you can see it's been.	02:06:03
	Just short of a year from all of this when it first started, So where we are now?	02:06:07
	I don't know how long it would have taken if we had to go a different route that would have required.	02:06:13
	A lot more.	02:06:19
	Planning for sure.	02:06:21
	And setting up traffic and and diverting things that it would have.	02:06:23
	Been we wouldn't be sitting here today probably saying that it's done.	02:06:28
	And as you can see there it was finished.	02:06:35
	On the 21st.	02:06:38
	We originally thought it was going to take until April.	02:06:40
	But the contractor?	02:06:44
	Did a great job and with Brian's assistance.	02:06:47
	Kept everything moving and so we were able to complete it faster than we originally thought.	02:06:52
	We were going to be able to do.	02:06:57
	All in total it was 57 working days. There was three different night shifts.	02:07:00
	That had to be done in order to get some of this done. Which And when I say night, it's all night. It started 8:00 at night until.	02:07:05
	You know, 6:00 the next morning.	02:07:13
	We got the 4200 feet of line in place and with this particular material, it's supposed to last 100 years.	02:07:18
	So, umm.	02:07:27
	None of us will be.	02:07:28
	Around when?	02:07:30
	That lifespan ends for that pipe.	02:07:31
	Here I wanted to point out all the people and partnerships that made this project a success.	02:07:38
	Charles Cable, who's sitting over there?	02:07:45
	Him and his engineering group.	02:07:48
	And and Brian as well.	02:07:50
	Did a bunch of brainstorming to figure out how to get all this done.	02:07:53
	We would all get in the room and and discuss different ideas that each of us had and.	02:07:58
	Charles, his team put it all together.	02:08:04
	Brian who was out there?	02:08:07
	From the beginning to the end.	02:08:10
	Juan Diaz, he just recently retired last week.	02:08:14
	Jim Chase, Don Phillips, Rosendo Jimenez.	02:08:18
	Stephen Elmcrance. Oscar Soto.	02:08:22
	And Tanacio Lopez.	02:08:25
	Chris Bates and Raymond Gutierrez, all those people were involved almost.	02:08:28
	Daily with what was going on because.	02:08:35
	Different things came up.	02:08:37
	And all these people got together and stepped in when we needed to.	02:08:39
	And then our partnerships.	02:08:44
	City Council.	02:08:47
	Originally we came and asked City Council to.	02:08:48
	Use your authority to grant this.	02:08:52
	The ability to have.	02:08:55
	The city manager.	02:08:56
	Get that?	02:08:59
	Get that moving as quickly as possible.	02:09:00
	I without that it would have been a much different process.	02:09:03
	Our attorney's office.	02:09:08
	Joan and Tara.	02:09:10
	Crafted the agreements that we ended up using.	02:09:12
	To work with Oxnard.	02:09:16
	The city of Oxnard themselves.	02:09:18
	Decided that that was a good thing for them as well.	02:09:22
	And let us have use of that line.	02:09:25
	The naval base.	02:09:28
	Big coordination with them.	02:09:30
	They are half of the flow that goes down that pipe so.	02:09:32
	They oftentimes it's difficult to get.	02:09:37
	Access to.	02:09:41
	Numerous people that needed to be on the base in order for this to happen.	02:09:43
	And they worked with us to make sure that we got that access.	02:09:46
	Surfside Village Homeowners Association.	02:09:50
	They were disrupted.	02:09:53
	Quite a bit with a lot of the work that's going on. Mr. Scribner was very cooperative with us.	02:09:55
	Brian and he spoke a lot.	02:10:01
	Brian kept him up to date on what was going to go on and how it was going to affect them.	02:10:04
	Our contractor blois the port of Wynnie me.	02:10:10
	Who we gave notifications to.	02:10:14
	And they were letting their truck traffic know what was going on. It was going to affect them somehow and if they could avoid our	02:10:16
	area while we were doing certain things.	02:10:20
	So they work well with this.	02:10:24
	The railroad.	02:10:26
	Obviously.	02:10:28
	They gave us use of that easement to put the temporary line in and one I didn't put on there.	02:10:29
	But I will mention the PD when we did that final connection.	02:10:34
	We were afraid that we might get some people that were going to be.	02:10:38
	Anxious and maybe try and go around our traffic control.	02:10:43
	So they let us use one of their.	02:10:46
	Patrol cars and set it out there.	02:10:49
	And.	02:10:51
	Brian said that he noticed there was a couple of times that looked like people might want to.	02:10:53
	Try and do something but then they noticed the unit sitting there and so they decided to follow directions so.	02:10:57
	And this last one again.	02:11:05
	Special thanks to Brian. I mean he.	02:11:08
	Very smart guy, very dedicated.	02:11:12
	You know, he thinks out-of-the-box. He's not afraid to make decisions and.	02:11:16
	Without him, I.	02:11:21
	Don't know that it would have gone as well as it did.	02:11:23
	So special recognition.	02:11:26
	To Brian.	02:11:28
	And if you have any questions.	02:11:32
	We'd be remiss if we didn't mention to that.	02:11:36
	The the old pipe that failed on us.	02:11:39
	We abandoned it in place and we filled it with that console and stuff. That's that little ball that goes around. So that pipe is	02:11:41
	no longer an empty pipe. It's full of that COM foam. So there's no.	02:11:46
	Potential subsidences or sinkholes or bellies in the in the in the ground from it failing in the future. So that's.	02:11:52
	Important.	02:12:00
	Great. Thank you. Thank you.	02:12:02
	Are there any questions?	02:12:04
	Questions. Congratulations and thank you.	02:12:05
	Go ahead.	02:12:08
	Let's take let's take some questions first.	02:12:09
	Anyway, my question is this.	02:12:12
	All that dirt.	02:12:17
	Like 20 feet high.	02:12:19
	Right across from where we live.	02:12:22
	Who?	02:12:25
	Inspecting the dirt, is a dirt contaminated or is it way to dump it?	02:12:26
	Over there.	02:12:31
	We were using that and we'll be removing that dirt as well. We were using it as a storage area.	02:12:33
	Because we needed to be able to. When we dug the, we had several pits that were dug in order for access for the.	02:12:38
	Contractor to be able to.	02:12:47
	What they call launch the pipe in. So they set it up so that dirt was dirt that came out of holes.	02:12:49
	The water department, so I.	02:13:00
	OK, but my question is I asked about the.	02:13:05
	OK, the reason I'm saying this because.	02:13:08
	I said.	02:13:11
	The 50 gallon.	02:13:13
	Barrel of chemicals.	02:13:15
	OK. All right. Thank you. I think I got it on video.	02:13:23
	OK. Well, what we'll do is we'll have somebody from our team follow up with you. We're trying to clean that area, but we'll have	02:13:26
	somebody follow up with you.	02:13:29
	Who knows what kind of bacteria or diseases and germs are in the Yeah, we're, we're working on cleaning it up, so we'll connect	02:13:35
	with you.	02:13:40
	Video of all of that.	02:13:46
	We'll come talk to you.	02:13:48
	Well, that's my question.	02:13:49
	Great.	02:13:53
	Somebody see what kind of chemicals? Thank you.	02:13:54
	Kind of junk you're putting underneath it.	02:13:57
	Yes, go right ahead, right.	02:14:00
	So just so you're aware.	02:14:02
	The dirt that we did pull over there with Boys Construction.	02:14:04
	Pits that we could like, Fred said. Pits that we created, that wasn't any sewer that was being.	02:14:08
	There because it was empty the trucks.	02:14:14
	The trucks that you saw there were cleaned and then utilized to vacuum the dirt and put back up on top.	02:14:16
	OK. Thank you. Thank you so much.	02:14:26
	All right. Thank you so much, Mr. Brown for your question, City Manager said.	02:14:31
	They're going to get back with you and answer some of those questions. Council members, do you have any questions?	02:14:36
	Councilmember Gama.	02:14:42
	So I believe it was under budget and ahead of schedules.	02:14:44
	We haven't got all of the invoices in yet and we do have credits that we were able to return stuff on. So until we.	02:14:48
	Get you feeling good though? Yes, I think so. Under budget.	02:14:55
	Authorized to get the project done, definitely ahead of schedule. And I think the other key thing is if you recall the thing we	02:15:01
	really were the most worried about when we found this.	02:15:05
	Was the idea of shutting down traffic?	02:15:10
	For residents, businesses, visitors, everybody during the summer and people wouldn't be able to, you know, people trying to go to	02:15:13
	the beach or any of the stores wouldn't be able to do it so.	02:15:17
	I think the timing of it being done, being done overnight.	02:15:23
	In the winter versus midday in the summer, having lane shutdowns and things like that, we're very happy with the.	02:15:26
	The timing and and how it was done faster than we thought and with less impact than we.	02:15:34
	Feared. Yeah, that would just like to end on saying I have complete confidence in Brian and you.	02:15:39
	And I know that you would not do anything that put yourselves in jeopardy or our community.	02:15:45
	And sometimes our eyes tell us different things that we're seeing. But again, I have complete confidence in what you guys do. I	02:15:50
	know you're professional and.	02:15:55
	By the rules.	02:16:01
	Thank you. Great. Thank you. Any other comments, Mayor Pro Tem?	02:16:03
	So I saw that you guys did these in sections, So what was the longest?	02:16:07
	Distance. You guys actually drug the new line?	02:16:11
	1000 feet.	02:16:16
	And then did you guys borescope?	02:16:17
	The line the.	02:16:19
	The Oxnard line to see if there was any rust that would.	02:16:21
	You know, damage the new language as you guys are dragging it through.	02:16:26
	So the old line was 24 inches.	02:16:31
	Our new line is 16 inches, so we had a lot of space there.	02:16:34
	We did. We did televise that ahead of time 1st to make sure that it was.	02:16:38
	Completely whole that we could utilize that line before we even discussed, you know the possibility of purchasing it. OK, so you	02:16:42
	guys check the viability of the line prior.	02:16:46
	So I know during the start of that project.	02:16:51
	It was like a week or two weeks into it there a sinkhole developed.	02:16:54
	During the process.	02:17:00
	No, there's the sinkhole in front of City Hall.	02:17:02
	When the first pipe failed.	02:17:05
	Also, that was the first.	02:17:07
	Failure that we encountered that.	02:17:09
	Told us we needed to look quickly and and.	02:17:11
	Remediating the system. So. OK, yeah.	02:17:14
	OK, that's all I had.	02:17:17
	But great job.	02:17:19
	Through the whole team.	02:17:20
	Council Member Hernandez, thank you, Mayor, thank you both.	02:17:22
	Well, all of you and all your workers who did a fabulous job, really fascinating work you did out there in the workarounds that	02:17:25
	you.	02:17:29
	You made around the broken sewer pipe. I do notice that you have and on the consent agenda.	02:17:33
	A request for this video inspection truck correct?	02:17:41
	How would it that that truck have helped you?	02:17:45
	In.	02:17:48
	Particular project.	02:17:49
	It would have helped in the initial.	02:17:51
	Inspection of the Oxnard line.	02:17:54
	If we would have had.	02:17:57
	Prior, we would have been able to do that ourselves. In this instance, we had to hire a contractor to come in and perform that	02:17:58
	work for us.	02:18:02
	OK.	02:18:07
	And then?	02:18:08
	Knowing the life.	02:18:09
	The shelf life of some of the plumbing and that runs underneath us.	02:18:11
	Are there any other areas that we might see this happen again?	02:18:16
	Hopefully not. We do know that we've got some.	02:18:22
	Areas in the system that have not been completely addressed yet we've.	02:18:26
	With our wastewater master plan, we have.	02:18:31
	Essentially completed like 90% of it.	02:18:35
	Some of the things that we still have to do will be.	02:18:38
	Things.	02:18:41
	That are related to rehabilitating.	02:18:43
	Some of those.	02:18:46
	This that agenda item will be something that will use the tool to help do that and I will also be able to use that.	02:18:48
	We know that we have storm rings that are getting old too.	02:18:54
	And so that will be.	02:18:58
	Way that we'll be able to use that equipment.	02:19:01
	To assess the condition of other lines I remember.	02:19:04
	Few years ago with a Perkins.	02:19:08
	Project. I thought that was a big deal for you guys in the work you did around that, but this was massive.	02:19:10
	I mean it covered a number of corners and intersections and.	02:19:17
	You guys did a fabulous job. Thank you so much and offer my congratulations to Juan for his retirement.	02:19:21
	Please. OK. Thank you. Hopefully he stays in touch with us.	02:19:28
	Mayor, can I just add to?	02:19:32
	To Mr. Kim Rio's comments.	02:19:34
	The uh.	02:19:37
	A couple of things I just want to.	02:19:39
	Mentioned there is the.	02:19:41
	I think we have good master plans and we're on top of things, but.	02:19:43
	I always take the opportunity where 75 year old city and so when the question starts to be asked of do we have things that are	02:19:48
	going to fail, that's about when things start to fail.	02:19:52
	So I think that's where we are trying to make sure we plan for it, budget it because we.	02:19:56
	We're at the age where.	02:20:02
	As a city.	02:20:03
	We need to make sure we're taking care of our infrastructure before before those major failures.	02:20:05
	And so when we come back and talk about the budget, we'll talk about some of those things. And then that ties in exactly into the	02:20:11
	conversation, though, about the closed caption.	02:20:15
	TV truck.	02:20:18
	Because one reason why the reason why we're moving forward with proposing purchasing that truck is because.	02:20:20
	We expect.	02:20:26
	That pretty soon the cost to contract will exceed the cost of having our own truck because of all the infrastructure projects we	02:20:28
	have. So it's kind of.	02:20:32
	The analysis we made at this point was that we're at the point where it's cheaper to buy the trucker sells so.	02:20:38
	Are more efficient, I should say.	02:20:43
	So I just wanted to add that.	02:20:45
	In SO, thank you.	02:20:47
	Yes, just want to say thank you. I remember early on when we started talking about the work was coming.	02:20:50
	That the topic.	02:20:56
	Was discussed in the Gold Coast transit meeting because of the fear of.	02:20:59
	Possibly hindering the bus lines.	02:21:04
	And so I will tell you that after that one time, I never heard the topic again.	02:21:08
	And I'd also like to just share my.	02:21:12
	I guess my.	02:21:16
	Expectation, knowing the work that was being done and then coming out and not seeing.	02:21:18
	Too much.	02:21:25
	Traffic.	02:21:28
	Or, umm.	02:21:29
	Just didn't see a lot of what was going on after hours. So I so appreciate the planning and the coordination between all the	02:21:31
	companies that supported this effort and specifically thank you from our residents.	02:21:38
	Because you all.	02:21:44
	Coming up with a plan that you had and the way that you worked around it, I'm sure you put a lot of our residents at ease as well.	02:21:46
	So thank you. Thank you so much for that. I appreciate it.	02:21:51
	Is there anything else? No.	02:21:56
	You did a good job.	02:21:58
	If nothing.	02:21:59
	Thank you so much. Again. Thank you, Brian.	02:22:00
	OK, so now we're going to recess from the City Council meeting and call to order.	02:22:06
	The Housing Authority regular meeting.	02:22:14
	The time is now 751.	02:22:17
	Not sure if I needed to do that.	02:22:19
	It's 751.	02:22:21
	And so, Madam Clerk, can we take a roll call, please, Member Blackwell.	02:22:23
	Here, Member Brown.	02:22:28
	Member Gama. Member Hernandez here. Member Perez here.	02:22:30
	Vice Chair Lopez.	02:22:34
	And Chair McQueen Lejeune here.	02:22:36
	And we will now hear public comments not relating to the agenda. Madam Clerk, are there any public comments?	02:22:39
	No public comments for Housing Authority. Great, thank you.	02:22:46
	We will now consider items on the consent calendar which will be enacted in one motion unless their authority member would like to	02:22:49
	pull.	02:22:53
	An item. Is there any items to be pulled?	02:22:57
	If not, is there a motion and a second?	02:23:01
	Move to approve.	02:23:03
	Thank you, Madam Clerk. Can we get a vote? All in favor? Aye. All opposed.	02:23:06
	Hearing none, motion passes unanimously.	02:23:11
	Great. Thank you. We have no business items and so we will move to.	02:23:14
	Ports I have a comment.	02:23:21
	OK, skip it.	02:23:23
	We're not there yet.	02:23:27
	We skipped an item that we just approved on the consent calendar.	02:23:29
	It we're on reports for and comments. So Mr. Brown, if you have a comment, you're welcome to see it now.	02:23:33
	I'm sorry.	02:23:41
	You have a comment, Go right ahead.	02:23:42
	Yeah. I just want to bring up that.	02:23:44
	Mr. Brown, I'm sorry, can he speak into the mic?	02:23:48
	Oh, I'm sorry.	02:23:51
	There's a big sign there that says.	02:23:53
	Parking for residents only.	02:23:55
	It's about this big.	02:23:58
	OK.	02:24:00
	We need to go to the store.	02:24:02
	Somebody in the public home and takes our parking, you know.	02:24:05
	There are 60 units, only 22 parking.	02:24:09
	So most of us have crime outside.	02:24:12
	And we?	02:24:15
	A place apart, you know, and.	02:24:17
	So these people come in and they take our Perkins who are not part there.	02:24:20
	Either they don't read the sign.	02:24:25
	But they don't care.	02:24:27
	So I was just gonna ask.	02:24:28
	Maybe they can make the same bigger.	02:24:30
	Earth more colorful so.	02:24:33
	Other people that don't belong or when we keep coming in.	02:24:35
	We get the guys a fixer.	02:24:39
	Washing machines, The guy that fixed the elevator, the guy that comes to fix the TV.	02:24:41
	I mean everybody.	02:24:47
	They park in our spots when we move.	02:24:49
	OK, we can ask our team to follow up with you on that.	02:24:52
	So thank you. I just thought that.	02:24:55
	The solution I don't know.	02:24:58
	We'll take a look at it. Thank you, thank you, and thank you, Mr. Brown for your comment.	02:24:59
	And so we're going to move on to reports, comments, requests for future agenda items. So let's start with the member reports.	02:25:03
	Anyone have anything to report?	02:25:08
	No any other comments?	02:25:14
	I have a comment from someone who works in.	02:25:18
	Loans and real estate and deals with a lot of the area housing authorities and.	02:25:21
	They told me to pass along the message that our Housing Authority is a pleasure to work with.	02:25:26
	Compared to all other housing authorities in the county.	02:25:31
	Thank you for being easy to work with.	02:25:35
	Thank you. Thank you.	02:25:37
	OK. Any requests for future agenda items?	02:25:39
	Anyone. No, but I was going to make a comment. OK, go right ahead. I'm sorry.	02:25:44
	Mr. Brown.	02:25:49
	Talking about parking availability.	02:25:51
	All the time.	02:25:54
	Or relative to this weekend, because I know this weekend probably was.	02:25:55
	The robotics. OK, yeah.	02:26:02
	But my question is.	02:26:08
	Dropping the kids and.	02:26:16
	Showing them back and forth back.	02:26:19
	So the problem was more so on the weekend.	02:26:22
	OK.	02:26:27
	We couldn't even start.	02:26:29
	Half a block a week, but.	02:26:30
	OK. Thank you.	02:26:33
	Thank you.	02:26:35
	Thank you.	02:26:36
	Any request for future agenda items?	02:26:38
	OK, if there's nothing else, we'll adjourn the Housing port Winnie Housing Authority and the next meeting is scheduled for April	02:26:44
	7th at 6:30 PM.	02:26:49
	We will now convene to the Council.	02:26:54
	The regular City Council meeting the time is now 755.	02:26:56
	OK, we will now consider items on the consent calendar, which will be enacted in one motion unless a council member has requested	02:27:08
	to remove an item. Is there a request to move any items?	02:27:13
	If not, is there a motion?	02:27:19
	I have no request to remove an item, but I do have a request to see a picture of that CCTV video inspection truck at some point.	02:27:21
	I would love to see that.	02:27:28
	You guys are really good at showing your work and the pictures I just want to see.	02:27:30
	Move to approve.	02:27:36
	2nd.	02:27:39
	Madam Clerk, please take a vote.	02:27:40
	All in favor.	02:27:42
	Aye, all opposed.	02:27:43
	Hearing none, motion passes unanimously.	02:27:45
	OK, so we'll now move to our public hearing.	02:27:48
	#10 Electronic campaign statement and Fair Political Practice Commission filings. Madam Clerk, do we have proof of publication as	02:27:52
	required by law?	02:27:57
	And a complete file.	02:28:02
	Of reports and exhibits. Yes, Madam Mayor.	02:28:03
	Thank you. Will staff please present the report.	02:28:06
	Thank you.	02:28:09
	Just a brief report on this.	02:28:11
	The Fair Political Practices Commission has.	02:28:14
	Authorized cities to now begin allowing.	02:28:18
	Candidates.	02:28:22
	To file candidates and elected officials to file.	02:28:24
	Statements I.	02:28:28
	With electronic filing.	02:28:30
	It's just sort of moving into the 21st century and rather than having to come into.	02:28:33
	City Hall.	02:28:39
	And file.	02:28:41
	Paper and pen.	02:28:43
	Now there would be the ability to file electronically, which makes things.	02:28:45
	Should make things easier for candidates and elected officials to.	02:28:49
	To file in the future.	02:28:53
	But the requirement before we do that is.	02:28:56
	Basically each city who wants to do that?	02:28:58
	Has to.	02:29:01
	Approve, introduce, and approve an ordinance that allows.	02:29:03
	The city to do that and so.	02:29:08
	This item is simply an ordinance that is intended to allow us to begin taking those electronic.	02:29:10
	Filing electronic documents.	02:29:17
	So, umm.	02:29:19
	We are recommending that Council introduced the ordinance for first reading tonight and then we would be adopting it at our.	02:29:20
	Next meeting, but we are recommending that the Council.	02:29:28
	Introduce the ordinance tonight.	02:29:30
	And so thank you.	02:29:32
	Great. Thank you. Does council have Council have any questions for staff? And we're going to only take questions at this time. Any	02:29:34
	questions?	02:29:37
	I have a question.	02:29:41
	Yeah. Is there any restrictions on any of the?	02:29:43
	The forms that we cannot do.	02:29:46
	No restrictions.	02:29:52
	OK, so then we would be.	02:29:54
	Every FCC filing that we would do here for the city would be.	02:29:58
	Basically.	02:30:02
	Online digitally and that's you hit what I was going to say is like as long as it's an FPPC filing, OK.	02:30:04
	And I just wanted to clarify so.	02:30:12
	You will be signing the forms digitally and you can go ahead and do that as long as it's through like Adobe or DocuSign.	02:30:14
	As a digital secure signature, we don't have a filing system yet like net file, but if we had one in the future though, this	02:30:21
	ordinance that you would approve tonight would allow us to do that in the future. Should we consider that?	02:30:29
	So who would?	02:30:37
	If there's a state requirement for an FPC filing.	02:30:39
	That goes through the city 1st.	02:30:44
	How does that get directed?	02:30:46
	To the state.	02:30:48
	The Secretary of State, you only file one form with them and that's currently the form 410 and you file directly with them and	02:30:51
	that one is online.	02:30:55
	OK, umm.	02:30:59
	So like everything else, we we as the city would.	02:31:00
	Would file here through the City Clerk's department.	02:31:03
	OK, got it.	02:31:06
	Any other questions?	02:31:07
	All right, this Council have any way. We did that already.	02:31:09
	OK, so open. The public hearing is now open for public input. The time is now 8:00.	02:31:14
	Are there any public comments regarding this item? No public comments. Great.	02:31:22
	Will now close the public comment or the hearing. I will now.	02:31:27
	Close it at 8:00.	02:31:33
	Let's see. OK, so we have before us a recommendation to introduce an ordinance for first reading by title only waiving.	02:31:36
	Further reading of the ordinance entitled An Ordinance of the City Council of the City of Port Hueneme, CA.	02:31:43
	Amending Article 2, Chapter 6 of the Port Hueneme Municipal.	02:31:50
	Code by adding Part H regarding electronic campaign disclosure statements and fair political practice.	02:31:54
	Commission filing and find that the action is not a project as defined under the California Environmental Quality Act and takes	02:32:00
	such additional related action.	02:32:05
	That may be desirable.	02:32:11
	May I have a motion and a second?	02:32:13
	Move to approve.	02:32:16
	2nd.	02:32:17
	Is there any discussion?	02:32:18
	No discussion. Madam Clerk, can we take a vote, Councilmember Goma?	02:32:22
	Affirmative Councilmember Hernandez.	02:32:27
	Councilmember Perez yes, Mayor Pro Tem Lopez Yes, and Mayor McQueen leash on Yes. Motion passes unanimously.	02:32:30
	Thank you. We'll move to business item number 11.	02:32:37
	Regional Defense Partnership Committee appointments for 2025 and goals for Washington, DC.	02:32:41
	Advocacy trip.	02:32:46
	I'm over to you.	02:32:48
	City Manager, thank you.	02:32:50
	So this item is on the agenda.	02:32:52
	Because on January 6, 2025, the City Council appointed.	02:32:56
	Mayor Pro Tem Jess Lopez is the primary representative to the Regional Defense Partnership and Councilmember Laura Hernandez is	02:33:01
	the alternate representative.	02:33:05
	However, on February 3rd, we were notified by Mayor Pro Tem Lopez that due to a work related conflict of interest, he would be	02:33:10
	unable to serve.	02:33:14
	As the primary representative to the Regional Defense Partnership.	02:33:18
	So this item, we said at that time we'd bring an item back to council to allow the council to consider.	02:33:22
	The uh.	02:33:29
	The appointments to the Regional Defense Partnership.	02:33:30
	Umm, technically the primary representative would is now vacant and so that Council can decide whether to who to appoint in that	02:33:34
	position and whether to make any other changes.	02:33:38
	And then secondly, sort of related is.	02:33:45
	At that time, we also talked about the.	02:33:49
	The council authorized.	02:33:53
	Mayor McQueen Lejeune to attend the Washington, DC trip.	02:33:55
	But said.	02:33:59
	When the item came back that they would discuss the goals for that. Goals are talking points for the DC trip.	02:34:00
	So the Council may wish to discuss.	02:34:07
	That at this time.	02:34:10
	I will just note.	02:34:12
	We are hearing that some DC trips are being postponed right now because of all the.	02:34:14
	Changes.	02:34:19
	And maybe uncertainty going on right now in Washington, DC.	02:34:20
	So I'm not so.	02:34:25
	Some of the trips have been postponed. We're not sure yet if this trip.	02:34:29
	Is being postponed.	02:34:32
	OK, so so the council could discuss desired goals or talking points for the DC trip?	02:34:34
	So can I have a? Can I just make a comment or or?	02:34:42
	Because this seems like we're going to make a motion to a point.	02:34:46
	Right. And then we're going to have a discussion.	02:34:50
	But I wanted to comment why I.	02:34:53
	I resigned from sure.	02:34:55
	So as a federal employee.	02:34:57
	RDP.	02:35:04
	Goes through every Navy organization and I'm actually with fleet readiness.	02:35:06
	Via Navair.	02:35:11
	And there is a section that they do actually pass through a.	02:35:13
	My my organization.	02:35:18
	My whole goal was.	02:35:21
	During that transition or that trip to excuse myself?	02:35:22
	So I wouldn't advocate for my own.	02:35:28
	Organization, but.	02:35:30
	Just the optics of this.	02:35:32
	You know, I just didn't want to bring light to myself, so.	02:35:35
	I resigned from RDP.	02:35:38
	To ease everybody's mind that.	02:35:42
	I'm not going to be lobbying for.	02:35:44
	My my own organization. So I thought it would be.	02:35:47
	It was.	02:35:50
	It was the right thing to do.	02:35:51
	OK, so that that's my.	02:35:53
	That was my intention and thank you for sharing that. Appreciate.	02:35:55
	Let's go, Council.	02:36:00
	Member Perez, please. So it's my understanding the issue of the conflict has to do with the lobbying.	02:36:02
	Part only.	02:36:08
	So you would still be OK.	02:36:09
	To attend the meetings.	02:36:11
	Have an opinion at the meetings?	02:36:13
	Disseminate information, bring back information and and all that that is perfectly within.	02:36:15
	Yes. So then.	02:36:20
	I would recommend, I'm still, I mean if we're at that point, I would recommend that he stay on as the primary.	02:36:23
	For that purpose.	02:36:29
	Yeah.	02:36:30
	So can you just say that out loud again so it's clear?	02:36:32
	So because we don't know what the.	02:36:36
	The SO.	02:36:39
	Have been with your employers yeah, so the.	02:36:41
	I did go through legal counsel through the.	02:36:44
	U.S. Navy.	02:36:48
	And uh.	02:36:49
	Their recommendations was.	02:36:51
	The optics.	02:36:54
	Of.	02:36:55
	Someone could actually, you know, make an allegation.	02:36:57
	Whether it be?	02:37:02
	Frivolous, uh.	02:37:03
	Wouldn't be good, wouldn't be favorable to to me.	02:37:04
	And would bring light on my my employment so.	02:37:08
	It's just best that I.	02:37:14
	I continue to.	02:37:16
	You know, resign from the position and I thank you.	02:37:18
	Councilman Perez for.	02:37:23
	The uh.	02:37:25
	The vote of confidence.	02:37:26
	Councilmember Hernandez.	02:37:29
	Thank you, Mayor.	02:37:31
	And thank you, Mayor Pro Tem, for your integrity and understanding. You know that even though.	02:37:32
	We could find some.	02:37:37
	Justification for keeping you on.	02:37:39
	Sometimes the optics just.	02:37:41
	Aren't.	02:37:43
	Aren't in our favor.	02:37:45
	So thank you for that.	02:37:46
	I'm sorry that you can't serve, because I know that you would have served well.	02:37:48
	I also cannot.	02:37:52
	Jump into the primary position mainly because of my schedule.	02:37:53
	Otherwise I would offer to do that.	02:37:57
	I do plan to remain has the.	02:38:00
	Primary on the strategic.	02:38:04
	Meeting umm.	02:38:06
	So when we get to that part of discussing goals and objectives for the.	02:38:07
	DC trip which is still on. I will have a few things to say about that.	02:38:11
	But.	02:38:16
	Due to my schedule I can't do it, so I would just suggest that we.	02:38:17
	Ask Martha to.	02:38:21
	We reappoint her to that position because.	02:38:24
	I know that her schedule is demanding but I think we can work at something out because I'm her backup for VRSD.	02:38:28
	Where I can back her up?	02:38:34
	When she can't attend at VR SD.	02:38:37
	Hopefully I can I can do that because I know that's been an issue for you.	02:38:39
	So let me let me just say.	02:38:44
	Why Councilmember Hernandez mentioned VRSD when we're talking about RDP 21?	02:38:46
	And.	02:38:52
	That's because RDP is the first Thursday.	02:38:53
	Of the month at 7:30 AM.	02:38:57
	VSRD.	02:39:00
	VRSD.	02:39:04
	Yes, SD.	02:39:05
	Is.	02:39:06
	At 8:30.	02:39:07
	The 1st and 3rd Thursdays.	02:39:09
	So during my time on both.	02:39:12
	Committees.	02:39:16
	I have had to leave RDP.	02:39:17
	After 45 minutes to get to the second meeting.	02:39:20
	And so.	02:39:24
	I would continue to have to do that.	02:39:27
	To get to the 8:30 meeting.	02:39:29
	And so.	02:39:32
	I don't have a problem doing that.	02:39:33
	I umm.	02:39:36
	If you all remember.	02:39:39
	I'm the one that suggested that a mayor Pro Tem take that.	02:39:41
	And I knew he wanted to.	02:39:44
	And so I was willing to to give that up for that reason.	02:39:46
	But I also feel that it's important that we participate.	02:39:50
	And that.	02:39:53
	The meetings.	02:39:54
	That happen on monthly meetings actually lead up to.	02:39:57
	The trip to DC.	02:40:03
	So I think that's why it's important to have some continuity.	02:40:05
	In that.	02:40:07
	And so.	02:40:09
	I would be willing to do that, understanding that I will still have to leave the meeting early and the director of RDP knows that.	02:40:10
	So I'll go over to.	02:40:19
	Yeah, council member.	02:40:23
	So my understanding.	02:40:24
	With regard to the formation of RDP 21.	02:40:27
	Was when BRAC base closures were on the table.	02:40:30
	And that group came together to lobby.	02:40:33
	To keep.	02:40:36
	Naval Base Ventura County.	02:40:38
	In play.	02:40:41
	Obviously they've been successful.	02:40:42
	And.	02:40:45
	My opinion, my opinion only.	02:40:47
	I think we should be.	02:40:50
	More concerned about the issues facing the city of Port Hueneme.	02:40:52
	And I just don't see value.	02:40:55
	The big Navy is Navy is huge.	02:40:58
	I don't think they're going anywhere.	02:41:01
	So.	02:41:04
	It just seems like.	02:41:05
	They accomplished their mission.	02:41:08
	And I'm not willing to. I don't have the time.	02:41:10
	I won't have the time but.	02:41:14
	I don't want to be a part of of of the RDP 21.	02:41:17
	But I just think that.	02:41:20
	That we.	02:41:23
	What bothers me is we went to Washington.	02:41:26
	I didn't go to Washington, but.	02:41:29
	All my other colleagues went to Washington.	02:41:30
	And we still, you know, we still got this dredge problem that we can't seem to pin down, we can't get.	02:41:32
	The funding is there, but now we got the State Water Resource Board, we got the Army Corps engineers showing up late.	02:41:38
	And to me, that's our issue.	02:41:44
	That's the that's the only issue that we should be focusing on in Washington.	02:41:46
	Like I said, the Navy.	02:41:52
	You know, they got their priorities and.	02:41:53
	Anyway.	02:41:56
	I just want to see us never be in this situation.	02:41:57
	With our two year dredge cycle again, I think we.	02:42:01
	I think.	02:42:05
	I think it's.	02:42:07
	In an era of.	02:42:08
	Bringing daylight to wasteful.	02:42:10
	Spending.	02:42:13
	This expenditure, I can't think of any other federal expenditure.	02:42:15
	Which is more prudent? Justified value added?	02:42:20
	Non wasteful spending and yet.	02:42:25
	For some reason.	02:42:27
	Every two years we have to go through this.	02:42:29
	Dredging Dance.	02:42:31
	Beg, plead, and.	02:42:33
	For our sand.	02:42:34
	And just so you know, you know, we came up.	02:42:36
	1.4 million cubic yards short.	02:42:39
	And so then next, next meeting.	02:42:41
	We're going to try and figure out how to.	02:42:43
	Make up that deficit so.	02:42:46
	So when I think of Washington, I think address kind of veering off.	02:42:48
	Yeah, hold on just a second.	02:42:52
	I let Councilmember Hernandez go, yeah, I just wanted to know how we were going to proceed with the discussion on the goals that	02:42:54
	we're going to take to DC because I think.	02:42:59
	Do we need a motion now to recommend?	02:43:04
	That we reappoint, I would say, yeah, I would suggest starting with the motion for reappointment and then the goals.	02:43:07
	Make the motion to.	02:43:16
	Reappoint, Mayor, Doctor.	02:43:17
	McQueen Lejeune to rejoin the.	02:43:20
	Regional defense.	02:43:23
	Partnership.	02:43:25
	2nd.	02:43:27
	As primary. As primary, yes.	02:43:28
	OK. Any other discussion? Did you have something I did?	02:43:31
	To his point, to Councilman Gama's point.	02:43:36
	There is value.	02:43:40
	Some of those agencies are not able to advocate for their own, for themselves as their federal employees, federal organizations.	02:43:42
	An example.	02:43:49
	You know some of the roadblocks that they.	02:43:51
	They encounter.	02:43:53
	They're able to.	02:43:56
	RDPS able to lobby for them.	02:44:00
	We they brought.	02:44:02
	They brought the Coast Guard to Point Magoo, which was a huge win. Not only.	02:44:04
	Thinking about the base is.	02:44:09
	But some of the other activity that happens around in and around.	02:44:12
	Our city.	02:44:17
	Which brings.	02:44:18
	People brings revenue.	02:44:19
	So I see this as a great partnership.	02:44:21
	Our city is made-up of a lot of veterans.	02:44:26
	And they work on base.	02:44:28
	You bring more money into those bases, which creates jobs and opportunity.	02:44:33
	So I see this as a viable.	02:44:38
	Partnership.	02:44:41
	It's strategic.	02:44:42
	That's all.	02:44:44
	OK, great. Anyone else? Are we on goals now?	02:44:46
	Umm, we can definitely Let's go ahead and take can we take a vote on.	02:44:50
	Yes.	02:44:54
	OK, all in favor.	02:44:56
	Aye, all opposed.	02:44:58
	Hearing none, motion passes unanimously.	02:45:00
	Great.	02:45:04
	Did you have something?	02:45:05
	OK, so so now let's we can move to.	02:45:07
	The goals.	02:45:12
	Do we have that?	02:45:13
	We just need to look in our.	02:45:16
	Can I while you're doing that, can I comment so?	02:45:19
	In preparation for the trip to DC.	02:45:22
	They have begun installation meetings with a group going around to each installation.	02:45:25
	And discussing.	02:45:33
	Vulnerabilities points in areas where they need financial support.	02:45:37
	One of the places that we went to was Coast Guard and.	02:45:44
	The the Air Station that is there now providing services to our community and to the region is there as a result of RDP. So that's	02:45:50
	just one of the things that come out as a result of our visits to.	02:45:57
	To DC.	02:46:04
	Those.	02:46:06
	Those issues, those.	02:46:08
	Projects that we identify from these installation visits are put into a white paper.	02:46:10
	And then the white paper is our. Those are our.	02:46:15
	Our walking statements that we use when we go to visit.	02:46:19
	The uh.	02:46:23
	The base personnel, the representative secretaries of various departments there in DC.	02:46:24
	And.	02:46:31
	And discuss those. We discussed those items with them.	02:46:32
	Directly.	02:46:36
	So we're about done, I think with the installation visits. Marthas been the mayor, excuse me, has been attending those. I've	02:46:37
	attended a few.	02:46:41
	And then we have a meeting, a strategic meeting on Wednesday morning, which will come together and we'll.	02:46:45
	Assess where we are with our white papers and determine whether or not there's any additional issues that we want to take.	02:46:53
	To DC.	02:46:59
	So right now.	02:47:00
	We have the issues.	02:47:02
	Identified for most of the installations we.	02:47:04
	Umm, we can inject something that we want to add from the city's standpoint, so I hope that we can.	02:47:08
	Have that discussion here tonight.	02:47:15
	Here it.	02:47:18
	Herein lies my.	02:47:20
	Conflict here is like, you know, we should be advocating for our city.	02:47:22
	1st the time to discuss that right now. Well, thank you, thank you.	02:47:25
	And so.	02:47:29
	We're hearing about, you know, what the Navy needs, the Navy needs and what about our needs for our city?	02:47:30
	And I don't see RDP.	02:47:35
	21.	02:47:37
	Addressing our needs, I mean, I just.	02:47:38
	I'm speaking.	02:47:41
	Thank you.	02:47:44
	Anyway, so I just want to make the point that why need me first?	02:47:45
	We need to look after our city.	02:47:49
	Ten years ago.	02:47:51
	Maybe a little longer. We're watching Surfside Drive fall into the ocean.	02:47:53
	Completely preventable.	02:47:58
	And then, you know, we're going to go to Washington.	02:48:02
	What is our plan to speak to the stakeholders so we're never in that position again.	02:48:04
	This is the greatest example of.	02:48:10
	Non wasteful spending yet we.	02:48:12
	Seem to have a problem getting it.	02:48:15
	Getting it rolling every couple of years.	02:48:17
	And so that's my point.	02:48:19
	I don't ever want to be in a position that we are in right now.	02:48:20
	We have the funding.	02:48:24
	And there is a lobbying trip for that specific task.	02:48:28
	I think you're mixing. No, I'm not. I'm just telling you right now, RDP is not lobbying for that. It's lobbying for who's going to	02:48:32
	lobby for us, for ourselves. OK, so, so, OK, let's stop for a second. Take a breath one at a time so we can hear everyone's	02:48:38
	comments.	02:48:44
	So were you finished?	02:48:50
	Councilmember Gama with your comments.	02:48:52
	No, OK, go right ahead then I want to make the point.	02:48:55
	It's not Jermaine through the task. No, it's Jermaine. No, it's not. You know what? Hold on everyone. No, everyone stopped talking	02:49:01
	for a second.	02:49:06
	Mayor Pro Tem, Mayor, Councilmember Gama, finish your statement. When you finish, we're going to go to our mayor Pro Tem.	02:49:11
	For your comments, take your notes so you don't forget anything.	02:49:18
	And then we'll come. No point of order, Point of order. What is your point? My point of order is that when we're having these	02:49:21
	discussions, they are time sensitive. We should only spend a limited time making our point. And if the person doesn't have	02:49:28
	anything different to say, then we move on. Great. Your point, your point is taken. Counselor Mcgama, please.	02:49:35
	Ask your questions or make your comments so we can move forward.	02:49:42
	My point?	02:49:46
	Is.	02:49:47
	We need to put the needs of Winemi first when we go to Washington.	02:49:48
	OK, yes. And my point is?	02:49:52
	That we should not ever be in the situation that we're in today.	02:49:56
	And if we're going to Washington, I haven't gotten.	02:50:01
	Everyone else up here is gone and we still come up short with this.	02:50:03
	Dredging thing which irritates me to no end.	02:50:07
	Noted. Noted. Thank you.	02:50:11
	Very much.	02:50:13
	Again.	02:50:16
	You're talking about dredging?	02:50:18
	And we're talking about RDP.	02:50:21
	It's it's it's council member Gama you spoke.	02:50:23
	So there is a there. There is other DC trips that actually are.	02:50:27
	Can be specifically targeted for that.	02:50:34
	That was my only point.	02:50:37
	Thank you, Councilmember Hernandez. Yes, so.	02:50:39
	There are.	02:50:42
	The reason that we collaborate with the port and we collaborate with the Navy base.	02:50:44
	Over the dredging is because they are in the same boat we are.	02:50:49
	They don't share the funding that we get through the.	02:50:54
	The county. The county is.	02:50:59
	The lead agency for the dredging that we benefit from, from the sand that we get.	02:51:01
	It comes from Channel Islands Harbor. It's funded.	02:51:06
	Through the Army Corps of Engineers.	02:51:10
	And they put that sand on our beach.	02:51:12
	Which they hope and we hope travels down to the Navy base.	02:51:14
	The Navy base may or may not benefit from that sand.	02:51:18
	So they have their own pocket of money that they where they get money to build resentments.	02:51:22
	And do whatever they need to protect their infrastructure.	02:51:28
	The port has their own pot of money.	02:51:33
	That they use to.	02:51:35
	Dredge the.	02:51:37
	The port area so that they can.	02:51:39
	Continue the navigation of the ships. So there's three pockets of money we're just.	02:51:42
	I know that Mister Gomez just talking about.	02:51:48
	The dredging project affecting our beaches.	02:51:51
	When we go to Washington, DC, we do sit in Julia Brownlee's office. I believe I said this at the last meeting.	02:51:53
	We do sit down with Julia Brownlee and we have an opportunity.	02:51:59
	To thank her first of all.	02:52:03
	Not to say she's ineffective.	02:52:05
	Not to tell the Army Corps of Engineers that they're ineffective. We thank them.	02:52:07
	For the work that they're doing.	02:52:13
	In finding the money, getting the funding.	02:52:15
	And.	02:52:19
	Making these projects occur every two years. What happened this year?	02:52:20
	Was not a result of lack of funding.	02:52:24
	That was something else, as the city manager explained.	02:52:27
	But that doesn't mean we're not going to go and again.	02:52:30
	Reinforce our message about the importance.	02:52:33
	Of the dredging project to our beach.	02:52:37
	When we go, we have Supervisor VNA Lopez in the room, We have the county's legislative analyst in the room.	02:52:39
	We have.	02:52:46
	Port of Winami, City of Port Hueneme, which is the beneficiary of the sent in the room.	02:52:48
	And we make that very clear that we are very appreciative of the sand and we would like to see that continue.	02:52:53
	So when I go to our meeting on Wednesday.	02:52:58
	And we talked to the strategic.	02:53:02
	Committee about what items the city would like.	02:53:05
	To include in our.	02:53:08
	White papers or in our discussions with Julia Brownlee and.	02:53:10
	Salute Carbajal.	02:53:16
	I will mention I will make sure that that is on the list.	02:53:19
	If there's anything in addition that you would like.	02:53:23
	Us to say or like the Martha to say because I'm not going this year.	02:53:26
	Then perhaps we can put something in writing.	02:53:31
	To explain what happened this year.	02:53:34
	Umm, see if there's ways that we can prevent that from happening again, but we never get any guarantees, especially with the.	02:53:38
	The chaos that's happening right now at the federal level.	02:53:48
	Expecting.	02:53:51
	A guarantee that we're going to get what we're asking for.	02:53:53
	With the political climate that is occurring right now is.	02:53:57
	We have to manage our expectations there. I don't think that we can expect that.	02:54:01
	OK, let me go around first before we get to you, Councilmember Perez. Yes, I think there is a good list right here that's already	02:54:05
	been mentioned and I think these.	02:54:10
	Five adding.	02:54:14
	The dredging on there would be a good start. As to our recommendations to what we should focus on, great. I just wanted to say one	02:54:15
	thing.	02:54:19
	So I just want to, and I've said this before, so I just want to reiterate it.	02:54:23
	So.	02:54:29
	I think that.	02:54:30
	As the Council of the City of Port Hueneme.	02:54:31
	We, we under some of us, we, we understand that RDP is going to predominantly or specifically talk about military.	02:54:36
	We know that the porch trip is is.	02:54:43
	You know, specifically to talk about port needs.	02:54:46
	I think what we need to do as a city is to.	02:54:49
	Determine how our needs.	02:54:52
	Align also with some of the things that were already.	02:54:55
	Going to be talking about so that we weave.	02:54:59
	Our needs into.	02:55:02
	The message that let's say the military, so one of the things that I had mentioned earlier is.	02:55:04
	So the last time we went, we heard information of how if you're connected to a military facility then you might have opportunity	02:55:09
	for grants.	02:55:13
	That the military have because we have things that connect with the military.	02:55:18
	Roads, infrastructure, maybe the electrical system. So there's there's.	02:55:22
	We just have to be really smart about how we tie in.	02:55:26
	What we would like to add to the trips?	02:55:30
	I don't think it's appropriate for us to go with RDP, which is the regional defense partnership, to talk about military and we're	02:55:33
	talking about the city of Port Hueneme without military discussion.	02:55:38
	So I think we have to learn how to tie ourselves into.	02:55:44
	What's being?	02:55:47
	Focused on as relates to the port and as it relates to the military and I agree with you 100% and.	02:55:49
	The lack of dredging. Let's just say if we have 0 dredging for two years, which.	02:55:57
	As it stands right now, that's what it's looking like, but we'll talk about that later, but.	02:56:04
	The port.	02:56:08
	The Navy.	02:56:09
	The city of Port Hueneme potentially can be catastrophically affected.	02:56:11
	And This is why I said.	02:56:16
	This is the greatest example of prudent, reasonable.	02:56:19
	Good spending.	02:56:24
	The opposite of wasteful spending.	02:56:26
	And so.	02:56:28
	My hope is that all the interested parties, the Navy, the port, the city.	02:56:30
	Can agree.	02:56:35
	And as well as the county Julia Brownlee's office.	02:56:36
	This is essential spending.	02:56:40
	This can't. We need to. As it stands right now, there's a 38,000,000 cubic yard cubic.	02:56:43
	Yards of sand deficits. Look at the sand dunes over there. They're.	02:56:50
	3040 feet tall, you know, and then over here we're we're up at the wall. So that that's thank you so I think we.	02:56:53
	We have an opportunity to tie it together.	02:57:00
	And it should be tied together because if a catastrophic event failure would occur, it's going to affect all three of us. And I'm	02:57:03
	just going to close with myself, close with this.	02:57:07
	Councilmember Gamma.	02:57:12
	I'm hoping that you don't believe.	02:57:14
	That, uh.	02:57:16
	Dredging is important to the rest of the Council.	02:57:17
	Because I think it's important to all of us.	02:57:20
	We might not talk about it like you talk about it.	02:57:23
	But it's important to all of us is for the sustainability.	02:57:26
	Of our city, and we know that.	02:57:30
	So I just want you to know that while we may not speak about it like you do.	02:57:33
	I believe it's important to all of us.	02:57:37
	That we get the replenishment of the sand that we need.	02:57:40
	For our city.	02:57:43
	And so I really want you to know that.	02:57:44
	And because the conversations feels like.	02:57:48
	And by the way, there's more than one important thing.	02:57:51
	That we have, as a city, need to pay attention to.	02:57:55
	So it is dredging and it's.	02:57:58
	Other things as well.	02:58:00
	So it's not just one thing.	02:58:02
	So we can look at multiple things.	02:58:04
	And try to figure out how we're going to be successful.	02:58:07
	At multiple things.	02:58:09
	Not just one thing.	02:58:10
	So anyway, so we're going to move.	02:58:12
	I'd like to go back to.	02:58:16
	Councilwoman Perez comments on the goals that are listed here.	02:58:18
	These are all very good goals and I think that we can agree to support them. However, some of these.	02:58:25
	Don't belong with RDP as much as they belong with that of the other military organization that we joined.	02:58:31
	Last year.	02:58:39
	Communities of.	02:58:41
	Military, uh.	02:58:43
	Bases, What's the You are the primary? I'm the alternate. What is the Association of Defense Community? The Association of Defense	02:58:45
	Communities. I think that's a better forum.	02:58:49
	For addressing some of these issues.	02:58:54
	Such as?	02:58:57
	Traffic improvements bringing the base and city communities together.	02:58:58
	Collaborating support service. Well actually no, that does go to RDP.	02:59:05
	So we have to decide, you know?	02:59:10
	Which ones you want to go to RDP and which ones we go to?	02:59:13
	Communities, yeah. And, and we didn't walk through these, but those goals were our city adopted goals in partnership with the Navy	02:59:18
	as a whole.	02:59:22
	So I do think maybe item 1:00 and 2:00 on that list probably are not appropriate for RDP.	02:59:26
	345 and dredging.	02:59:33
	Maybe ones that are?	02:59:36
	More appropriate for RDP for.	02:59:37
	Council to consider.	02:59:39
	And then would it be possible?	02:59:42
	In case they ask on Wednesday.	02:59:44
	To get a written description of what occurred this year regarding the dredging.	02:59:47
	Maybe the county has. Yes we we wrote a letter to.	02:59:53
	With Congresswoman Brownlee's office a couple months ago, where we laid out, I believe we laid out.	02:59:58
	Sort of the problems that we were running into.	03:00:04
	So I think even just we could just provide that and I think it has the background. I didn't see that letter. I would like to see	03:00:06
	that, yeah.	03:00:10
	OK.	03:00:14
	This will be on our next meeting agenda, right? Debrief on that this year's dredge cycle process and where we go in the future. A	03:00:18
	dredge, Yes, we'll be on the next agenda.	03:00:23
	Any.	03:00:30
	Any other comments is there?	03:00:30
	Are we? Is the expectation tonight city manager that we will identify?	03:00:36
	Areas that we want to.	03:00:41
	The item allows for that to be done tonight.	03:00:44
	It's up to council whether.	03:00:47
	You're you're ready to do that tonight.	03:00:50
	Councilmember on traffic.	03:00:52
	When I was a little kid, I remember all the base gates were open.	03:00:56
	Now they only have Pleasant Valley and the main gate, and there's that one gate that's never utilized.	03:01:00
	I'm not a traffic engineer, but I wonder if we could.	03:01:06
	Ask would that help?	03:01:10
	Traffic is forcing everyone through the main gate and then also I noticed that.	03:01:12
	Sometimes they close Pleasant Valley and sometimes they have.	03:01:17
	Victoria closed.	03:01:20
	You know, we have grown quite a bit. There's a lot of traffic needs, but.	03:01:23
	I've never understood that because.	03:01:26
	Back when I was coming and winning me Christian as a fifth grader.	03:01:28
	That gate was always working.	03:01:32
	It's for security.	03:01:35
	Doesn't allow it.	03:01:37
	And that's what we always hear, security.	03:01:39
	You know.	03:01:41
	But they they have to control the.	03:01:43
	Points of entry.	03:01:45
	Well, that would be a point of entry and they could control it.	03:01:47
	It's just that quite, you know.	03:01:50
	I mean, are you looking for a motion?	03:01:52
	So yeah, so I'm looking for.	03:01:54
	Any options that you all might have?	03:01:57
	As to do we want to pick?	03:01:59
	Some from this list.	03:02:02
	345 and 6345 and 6.	03:02:04
	With six being tragic.	03:02:06
	And six, is dredging OK?	03:02:09
	Any other comments?	03:02:11
	So yeah, my comments are that on Wednesday when I have this meeting, I will share.	03:02:12
	The.	03:02:18
	Number 3-4 or five and the dredging.	03:02:20
	With the committee, but these the 3-4 and five is somehow going to have to align with.	03:02:23
	I'm going to have to have some specifics on what it is that we want to lobby for.	03:02:29
	And we'll also have to see if it aligns with.	03:02:35
	With what we're taking.	03:02:39
	Already. Umm.	03:02:40
	So #3 does. Specifically, the last sentence calls out.	03:02:41
	Streets, water, wastewater, other resources are mutually beneficial. Yeah. So they actually our visit last year produced the	03:02:45
	monies for that huge wastewater project in the Conejo.	03:02:52
	Yeah, great. Yeah.	03:02:58
	We include we including #2.	03:03:00
	Know that we've I think that goes with the association of defense communities.	03:03:04
	Because when I look at #2 I think about opportunities for grants, cooperation with the port, perhaps with the Navy.	03:03:11
	Communities.	03:03:18
	And I don't know if you're going to go into, there's that one.	03:03:21
	Last group that we met with last year.	03:03:25
	Where they had some opportunities to work with the.	03:03:27
	Universities that might that might work.	03:03:31
	The traffic, I don't know if that traffic improvements.	03:03:35
	Would be an issue that.	03:03:38
	You could raise their.	03:03:39
	I don't know, you'd have to.	03:03:42
	Yeah, I think, yeah, so.	03:03:44
	I think once we if we can come up with some areas.	03:03:47
	Then we might need to look further.	03:03:50
	Deeper and say OK now.	03:03:52
	Now that we know, we're going to be partnering with RDP.	03:03:55
	What should it be?	03:03:59
	You know, so it might not be written as it's written now.	03:04:01
	In there, we might have to do some further discussion.	03:04:04
	Identify.	03:04:07
	So anything else? So I heard you say 3456.	03:04:09
	345 and the dredging which is would be 6, yeah.	03:04:13
	Or so.	03:04:17
	Let's take.	03:04:19
	Is there a motion and a second for that?	03:04:20
	Move to approve items 345 and 6.	03:04:25
	2nd.	03:04:28
	OK.	03:04:31
	So let's do it this way.	03:04:32
	Can we get a vote on that?	03:04:34
	Aye, OK, All opposed. Sorry hearing none. Motion passes unanimously.	03:04:38
	OK, umm.	03:04:43
	So.	03:04:45
	I wanted to get that out of the way, so we voted for that.	03:04:46
	So what are you thinking with #2?	03:04:49
	I just want to know.	03:04:51
	I don't want to just kind of go by it.	03:04:53
	Recently with the.	03:04:58
	For what I heard is that.	03:05:00
	There's a since the federal workforce has been.	03:05:02
	Asked to come back to work.	03:05:06
	That traffic has increased tremendously here, and I think I've noticed that most of us may have.	03:05:08
	So in #2 you know how?	03:05:14
	Can we?	03:05:17
	Discuss with our partners, the Navy, the port.	03:05:19
	To address traffic, maybe there's opportunities for grants that the three of us can benefit from.	03:05:22
	But I don't understand.	03:05:30
	How we get the three of us to work on that together? Yeah. And so my question to you would be we just we just voted on.	03:05:33
	Three through 6.	03:05:41
	To try to take to DC.	03:05:43
	Do you think we would need to go to DC for number 2?	03:05:45
	Or could we do that in partnership here?	03:05:48
	My understanding is you have to go to San Diego first.	03:05:51
	That's my understanding is that.	03:05:55
	San Diego controls the space, and so we have to.	03:05:57
	Figure out who to talk to in San Diego to get on the same page as with.	03:06:01
	Their host city.	03:06:06
	And then try to.	03:06:07
	Work on traffic improvement.	03:06:08
	So that sounds like local partnership discussions, not something that we would need to go.	03:06:10
	And sit with our legislators.	03:06:15
	To talk about.	03:06:18
	Can I make a suggestion that we discuss it?	03:06:20
	Under Item 4.	03:06:23
	14 when we talk about strategic.	03:06:24
	That's coming up OK.	03:06:29
	I'm OK with that. Everybody OK with that?	03:06:30
	Yeah, yeah, let's do it.	03:06:33
	All righty.	03:06:35
	OK.	03:06:40
	OK, let's go to number 12.	03:06:43
	Citizens Advisory Commission and Transactions Will staff please present the report?	03:06:45
	Yes, thank you.	03:06:50
	This item is on the agenda after we, the City Council, previously discussed it on January 21st.	03:06:52
	At that time.	03:07:01
	It was discussed as the appointments to the Measure U committee and the.	03:07:03
	Citizens Advisory Commission.	03:07:10
	Well, we had that discussion.	03:07:12
	It was.	03:07:15
	One of the.	03:07:17
	We had an applicant.	03:07:18
	One remaining applicant to the Measure U committee.	03:07:20
	That the Council was considering.	03:07:23
	That had already served 2 terms and.	03:07:26
	That led to a discussion of term limits and sort of a question from Council.	03:07:30
	Of why citizens advisory Commission has.	03:07:35
	Doesn't have term limits, but measure you committee does.	03:07:39
	What that history is and rationale so that the Council can.	03:07:42
	Consider whether a change should be made or whether that should be continued.	03:07:46
	So this report now looks deeper into the Citizen Advisory Commission and Measure U committee and the history of that.	03:07:51
	I think.	03:07:59
	Really. In summary.	03:08:01
	The city has a city code.	03:08:03
	That.	03:08:07
	Establishes Commission appointments and.	03:08:09
	Different regulations related to commissions.	03:08:13
	And.	03:08:17
	The Citizens Advisory Commission was established.	03:08:18
	In line with that.	03:08:22
	Code section which does not have.	03:08:24
	Term limit requirements.	03:08:26
	But later, when the city approved the Measure U committee in 2019.	03:08:29
	Um, my guess it wasn't really discussed thoroughly, but my guess is we probably.	03:08:36
	Fashioned it after other cities similar tax oversight committees.	03:08:41
	The the city decided to.	03:08:47
	Implement A2 year.	03:08:50
	Two term, 2 years per term with two term limits, so where somebody could only serve four years.	03:08:52
	And the only really real explanation was about the two years, but not the two terms.	03:08:59
	It was said that the two years would just line up with the budget cycle.	03:09:04
	So that the committee working through the budget cycle would.	03:09:08
	Sort of have a full.	03:09:12
	A full budget cycle.	03:09:13
	But so.	03:09:16
	A term, the two term limit was placed, but it wasn't.	03:09:18
	Really discussed thoroughly of why that was in place.	03:09:21
	And so.	03:09:25
	Council has options.	03:09:27
	Really.	03:09:29
	Don't change anything or.	03:09:31
	Change one of the Commission, either the Citizen Advisory Commission to be more like the Measure U Committee or the Measure U	03:09:34
	Committee to be more like the Citizen Advisory Commission for consistency.	03:09:39
	I think the fact.	03:09:45
	The Citizens Advisory Commission is actually.	03:09:47
	Appointed in line with our city code and our city ordinance.	03:09:50
	If we were going to change that, it would require a code change, which is more.	03:09:54
	Use of resources. More use of.	03:09:58
	Of staff time, council meeting time, because we have to bring a code change through.	03:10:02
	So all else being equal.	03:10:07
	The measure you committee was just adopted.	03:10:10
	Those tournaments were adopted by a resolution and that could be changed fairly easily.	03:10:12
	So if it were just based on amount of time or effort.	03:10:17
	Put into it, it's easier to change measure you committee than it is citizen advisory Commission.	03:10:21
	But the Council has.	03:10:26
	Those options.	03:10:28
	Of maintaining them the way they currently are.	03:10:29
	Or modifying.	03:10:32
	Either of those two commissions.	03:10:34
	And.	03:10:37
	Our only feedback would be.	03:10:39
	It's not clear. When I say our I mean staff.	03:10:42
	But it's not clear if the Measure you committee was created.	03:10:45
	Purposefully with different terms and term limits than the city code stipulates so for us.	03:10:49
	From a staff perspective, if there's not a specific reason, then it would be good practice to just have everything be uniform and	03:10:55
	following the city code.	03:10:58
	But it was just unclear from the history of if there was a specific reason why a term limit was put in place.	03:11:02
	And then the last comment is we still don't have any other applicants for the Measure U committee, so.	03:11:08
	It may be worth.	03:11:14
	Or if the term limits upheld.	03:11:16
	Well, the City Council will then have to make a decision about how to get an applicant for the measure you committed to move, like	03:11:20
	to make a motion, if that's possible, Yeah.	03:11:23
	I wanted any questions first.	03:11:29
	Any questions?	03:11:32
	I just want.	03:11:33
	Clarification. So you're saying?	03:11:35
	Mike, sorry.	03:11:38
	Oh, sorry.	03:11:39
	You're saying that it would be easier?	03:11:41
	To modify the measure U committee term.	03:11:43
	Term limits rather than.	03:11:48
	Modify the code, yes, because it's by resolution versus the citizen advisory Commission is by city. So that code is that option	03:11:52
	for standardized advisory boards. Is that the method then that we would do that? Yes, it'd be option 4 with.	03:11:59
	Are actually.	03:12:06
	It would be option 3 I believe.	03:12:09
	It would be option 3, but.	03:12:11
	Do it through resolution.	03:12:14
	Yeah, but do it.	03:12:16
	We'd do an updated resolution to remove the term limits.	03:12:19
	So I guess yeah, you're right, it is a option for.	03:12:23
	And then I understood there was an out. There was a.	03:12:28
	Interested party? Was that just?	03:12:32
	Mayor Pro Tem was that?	03:12:35
	Did you have somebody?	03:12:37
	Last Yeah, they.	03:12:38
	It was accepted.	03:12:41
	OK, because he was saying there wasn't somebody was no, his was already appointed.	03:12:42
	Language. Oh, OK, OK, so there's no, there's only one current person. OK OK. Appointed.	03:12:47
	Oh, I didn't know that happened. OK.	03:12:53
	All right. Thank you.	03:12:55
	Yeah, and so a city manager so.	03:12:56
	Based. I don't know if you've talked to anybody in the finance department, but there's no.	03:12:59
	Question or it no input as to.	03:13:04
	You know.	03:13:07
	What makes sense as it relates to?	03:13:08
	Measure U.	03:13:11
	About terms or anything like that that.	03:13:13
	No, I think, I mean, you could sort of make an argument either way. One would be, we'll get, you know, maybe this was the thought	03:13:15
	process at the time and it just wasn't discussed. But you know, get varying perspectives and make sure you're getting a variety of	03:13:20
	opinions.	03:13:24
	On the flip side, you could say, well, once you have people who understand the budget, you know, keep the expertise, so.	03:13:29
	So you could argue that either way, I think.	03:13:36
	The the the.	03:13:40
	Big challenges there. We don't have other applicants. So you know, it's not a situation I would say.	03:13:42
	If we wanted to go with that first option of well, let's get more voices in the room and let's let's do all that, well, you need	03:13:49
	more applicants to do that so.	03:13:52
	That's.	03:13:57
	You know, it's kind of a.	03:13:58
	Inhibitor that's being put on us right now so.	03:14:02
	So, So from a staff perspective, I think well.	03:14:06
	And this is the case with all commissions and committees.	03:14:11
	We'll work with whoever the Council.	03:14:13
	Sure. And so if you don't mind, let me just say this real quick because I had some comments last. Sorry Mayor, I had some comments	03:14:15
	the last time and.	03:14:20
	And I was able to kind of do some thinking.	03:14:25
	Through that.	03:14:28
	And so and then I kind of.	03:14:29
	Thought about the experience that I had when I initially came on to council and I didn't know anyone, right? And I said who's in	03:14:31
	it now? And they said ABCD and I said OK, that person is good, right? And I think that that's what we get.	03:14:38
	Umm, that's naturally what happens. And so, umm.	03:14:46
	Even like you think about the CAC.	03:14:51
	I guess if.	03:14:54
	The person that I picked.	03:14:55
	Maybe the person?	03:14:57
	A new person would not want that person, right? And So what that person would transition out, but maybe the person would and, and	03:14:59
	I'm so I'm just kind of talking out loud. And so that's like eight years later, right? Because if it's a four year term and	03:15:06
	there's 2 terms, that's literally 8 years that someone can serve and is there.	03:15:13
	And this is rhetorical.	03:15:20
	Is there?	03:15:21
	When it comes time for a new person to want to come on.	03:15:23
	And you, you got your person.	03:15:29
	Then that made them.	03:15:32
	You know.	03:15:34
	Prohibit others from participating. So so I'm thinking of, I was thinking about all that.	03:15:35
	But I will say I currently.	03:15:40
	We're not voting yet, so I'm not going to make that statement at all.	03:15:43
	And I if I could just note to that because that's where.	03:15:46
	I think that's why the CAC Citizens Advisory Commission follows.	03:15:49
	The city code because that.	03:15:54
	Section essentially aligns it to each council member.	03:15:57
	And so if one council member steps away, and this is how CAC works, is 1 council member steps away, their term ends.	03:16:01
	Then the incoming council member would decide whether to continue that person or appoint their their own person.	03:16:10
	And so.	03:16:17
	That's that's what we meant when we said that the option would be to just sort of match.	03:16:18
	That city code and what?	03:16:23
	The and what the CAC currently does. It's just the measure.	03:16:26
	Measure you.	03:16:30
	Doesn't do it that way currently.	03:16:31
	Any any council member comma.	03:16:33
	May I please make a motion now?	03:16:35
	Make sure everybody has an opportunity. No one has a question.	03:16:37
	Comment I have a comment.	03:16:39
	We do have public comments. OK, great. Thank you.	03:16:42
	Let's go.	03:16:45
	Did you have? Did you have any more questions?	03:16:47
	I just make a comment that the city manager stated it in three different.	03:16:49
	Times. Those all make sense to me, so I'd like to make a motion to go to option 3.	03:16:53
	Public We have public comments.	03:16:57
	OK, OK. Becky Bruning and then David Scrivener.	03:17:02
	Good evening, Mayor, Mayor Pro Tem, council staff.	03:17:12
	Audience.	03:17:16
	I'm here because.	03:17:18
	I am on the CAC.	03:17:20
	Matter of fact, I'm.	03:17:23
	The mayor's person.	03:17:24
	I was on it before.	03:17:28
	Had appointed me.	03:17:31
	And.	03:17:34
	I feel that you should have.	03:17:37
	The measure U.	03:17:40
	Be like.	03:17:43
	The CAC.	03:17:44
	Where the council members are picking them.	03:17:46
	They can go for the council members term.	03:17:49
	Because if you put a time limit on us.	03:17:52
	You're going to run into this again.	03:17:56
	People aren't going to sign up.	03:17:59
	And then you're going to be like.	03:18:02
	Now what do we do?	03:18:04
	Where if?	03:18:07
	You don't put a time limit on us.	03:18:08
	And.	03:18:11
	Let's say.	03:18:13
	The mayor runs again.	03:18:15
	She loses.	03:18:18
	I'm out, but I can put in an application.	03:18:20
	Whoever takes their place.	03:18:24
	Can pick me again.	03:18:26
	Or if somebody else happens to put in their application.	03:18:30
	They can pick them.	03:18:34
	But at least they'll have a choice.	03:18:35
	Where if you put a limit on us.	03:18:39
	They're not going to have that choice.	03:18:41
	That's all.	03:18:47
	Thank you.	03:18:48
	David.	03:18:52
	Good evening.	03:18:58
	I think I'm the reason we're having this whole discussion, so back up a little bit.	03:19:00
	Where I'm already over the time limits that they're established. I was appointed in 2019.	03:19:06
	OK, this is I've been there for 5 1/2 years now.	03:19:12
	To be blunt, the first three years were a complete waste of everybody's time.	03:19:16
	For the reasons that were described in the report to the Council we talked about last year.	03:19:19
	As far as I'm concerned, I'm quite fine with whatever you guys decide. If I'm term limited out and that's fine with me.	03:19:26
	On the other hand.	03:19:33
	There's a loophole here which is kind of odd, which is in essence if.	03:19:35
	A council person doesn't.	03:19:42
	Nominate somebody.	03:19:43
	The person who is already sitting sits there.	03:19:45
	And continues their term.	03:19:48
	Which seems sketchy to me.	03:19:50
	Seems to me what we should have is some sort of rule that says here's what.	03:19:52
	Here's what the deal is. You're here for two years. Four years.	03:19:56
	Whatever.	03:19:59
	And then your terms up.	03:20:00
	You know, if you can't get a quorum in a committee, I guess you have to struggle with that, so.	03:20:02
	What what I'm up against right now is I don't want to do 2 hours of ethics training.	03:20:08
	If if I'm going to be term limited out, so I'd like you to make some sort of decision, do what you're going to do.	03:20:14
	And on we go. So thank you.	03:20:21
	Thank you.	03:20:24
	Thank you.	03:20:25
	Any other public comments that concludes public comment?	03:20:27
	Right. Yeah.	03:20:30
	Yeah. None of us like going through the ethics training, but it's good training and it's part of the requirement and so of being	03:20:33
	appointed on these commissions, so.	03:20:37
	There's no getting around that one.	03:20:43
	And so I did want to follow up just one more thing. I promise it'll be the last one about this topic.	03:20:45
	Umm, so if you all recall at the last meeting, the comments that I made specifically weren't about whether.	03:20:50
	We wanted.	03:20:59
	Which way we wanted to go. My comment was about if we're going to have policy.	03:21:00
	We want the policy to represent what we're doing.	03:21:06
	If we have a policy, we don't want to just decide to do whatever we want to do.	03:21:09
	But then we expect our city, our residents to do what's in the policy right.	03:21:14
	So whatever the policy is, let's I'm OK with whatever it is, but I just want to make sure that we have a policy so we're not the	03:21:18
	ones going outside of our own rules.	03:21:23
	And so that that's the comment that I made. Can I speak to that also, please?	03:21:29
	OK, yeah. So Speaking of policy along with, you know, the.	03:21:34
	The ethics training. There's also our.	03:21:38
	Policy and procedures that we have here for our Council.	03:21:41
	And in the policy it says that it applies to other boards and commissions.	03:21:45
	So.	03:21:52
	And that's not been enforced.	03:21:53
	At the Measure U committee or.	03:21:55
	The CAC, so if we're going to have that policy and it's going to have that statement in there that it.	03:21:58
	That those policies about.	03:22:04
	Decorum about.	03:22:06
	Distance about conflict of interest.	03:22:08
	Umm, then we need to make sure that both committees are.	03:22:11
	Are aware of the policy and that they've been trained in the policy and understand it.	03:22:16
	Yes.	03:22:22
	Councilmember Perez Yes, I do. So I mean, that's easy to say, but we don't even follow the policy on Council, so we can't really	03:22:23
	be pushing that out on our.	03:22:28
	Committees when we don't do it ourselves.	03:22:33
	But to the point is.	03:22:35
	There's not a lot of stuff that the Citizens Advisory Committee does throughout the year to really give them a chance to even	03:22:37
	advise on a council if they have term limits and they.	03:22:42
	We need to give that first. We need to give them more things to be involved with. They need to be.	03:22:46
	More part of the conversation.	03:22:51
	But it should be consistent with us. I think that the Council should pick their person.	03:22:53
	And then if they term out.	03:22:59
	It's up for a new application or they bring in another person depending on who's elected to council.	03:23:00
	And it needs to be consistent.	03:23:05
	Yes. Anyone else?	03:23:07
	OK. Is there a motion? I got 1.	03:23:09
	Go right ahead, option 3.	03:23:13
	That makes. That makes.	03:23:15
	Measure U like.	03:23:19
	CAC through a resolution, correct? Mr. City Manager, you said 3.	03:23:22
	Four, OK.	03:23:28
	Yeah, amend my emotion.	03:23:29
	And then corrected myself.	03:23:31
	OK, I'm gonna amend my motion to option 4.	03:23:33
	2nd be it be a standard standardizing the advisory bodies to have the four year terms matching the council member with no with no	03:23:35
	term, with no term limits.	03:23:40
	A second.	03:23:46
	Any other discussion?	03:23:48
	Madam Clerk, can we take a vote, please?	03:23:50
	All in favor.	03:23:51
	All opposed hearing none. Motion passes unanimously.	03:23:53
	Great. Thank you. Thank you so much.	03:23:58
	OK, we're going to move to item number.	03:24:01
	13.	03:24:04
	Request for review recreation events initiated by former council member.	03:24:05
	Will staff please?	03:24:11
	Present your report.	03:24:12
	Thank you. Yes.	03:24:13
	So at the last council meeting.	03:24:15
	I believe.	03:24:19
	Former Councilmember Bobby Martinez.	03:24:20
	Spoke about.	03:24:23
	Several events that he had coordinated.	03:24:27
	In his time as a council member.	03:24:29
	So and the the council asked for.	03:24:32
	A report of.	03:24:36
	The events that we coordinated and.	03:24:38
	Kind of a status of those events, which ones we were planning to continue and which ones we.	03:24:41
	Are not planning to continue.	03:24:47
	And so this report.	03:24:50
	Is intended to provide that information. It lists the events.	03:24:53
	There were a lot of duplicate events. So for example, like you know, the list will say things like mini soccer tournaments. My	03:24:56
	understanding is that there were several of those, but we didn't list.	03:25:02
	You know each of those things.	03:25:08
	We sort of we were trying to just.	03:25:10
	Generally say which events we're planning to continue at this time and which ones we have not.	03:25:13
	Made plans to continue.	03:25:17
	I think.	03:25:19
	Really. How?	03:25:20
	What it kind of broke down to is.	03:25:22
	There were two events that were really coordinated as.	03:25:25
	City events that I think at the time, I believe one of them predates me, but I believe that there was.	03:25:29
	Some City Council discussion of they were coordinated as.	03:25:36
	And then they were coordinated, as you know, staff.	03:25:40
	Events. Umm.	03:25:44
	And that was the three-point contest.	03:25:44
	The Winnemi fun run which is.	03:25:48
	We've developed it into the the.	03:25:52
	See splash color dash if I'm getting that right. 5K event which is coming up.	03:25:55
	With the.	03:26:01
	With the.	03:26:03
	1K run for kids.	03:26:04
	And so.	03:26:06
	Those two we currently have plans.	03:26:07
	To continue.	03:26:11
	The other events were events and my understanding because a lot of them predated me.	03:26:12
	Is that there were events, events that I think Councilmember Martinez.	03:26:16
	And Oregon Reach had coordinated, but there was either limited or no city involvement.	03:26:20
	And so there is not.	03:26:25
	The staff.	03:26:28
	Weren't, uh.	03:26:29
	Very involved, or involved at all in some of them.	03:26:31
	And therefore.	03:26:34
	Didn't have a process in place. There was number plans to continue to to operate those events.	03:26:36
	And then?	03:26:44
	And so that's the music and literature event, the mini soccer tournaments, the volleyball clinics in the community softball games.	03:26:45
	I do think there was a couple like other similar athletic events that were more just coordinated.	03:26:52
	On that individual basis or through reach.	03:26:56
	And so our suggestion with those is.	03:26:59
	By clearly delineating which events the City Council wants to continue and which ones.	03:27:01
	I don't even want to say it's not that.	03:27:08
	That they wouldn't be continued, but it's basically offered back up to reach or Councilmember Martinez to decide if they want to	03:27:10
	continue those events.	03:27:14
	So we recommended the three-point contest and the fun run.	03:27:18
	And then offering the remainder of the events back.	03:27:22
	To reach.	03:27:26
	And I just wanted to note before.	03:27:27
	Closing the presentation that.	03:27:30
	In the staff report, we note that part of why.	03:27:33
	Those are the ones we're focusing on is because we do expect this year to be a heavy recreation year.	03:27:37
	We are, uh.	03:27:42
	Having a park grand opening.	03:27:43
	And then probably a separate playground grand opening because we're doing.	03:27:46
	Both of those projects at Bubbling Springs.	03:27:49
	We have the library and mural grand opening which are recreation department is helping the county.	03:27:51
	With as well.	03:27:58
	Coordinating some youth events for that.	03:28:01
	And, umm.	03:28:04
	Dog parks grant grand opening and.	03:28:05
	There's a few other things as well as just the normal things like getting the lifeguard program up to.	03:28:08
	Up and going, which is a huge project every year.	03:28:15
	And a new Steam after school program, the Sea Splash Color Dash 5K.	03:28:18
	And and other events so.	03:28:24
	Are we expect that are sort of what we tried to do is look at these realistically to say what we think we can do with existing	03:28:26
	resources.	03:28:30
	And that we had experience doing and then other events saying with reach.	03:28:34
	Sort of splitting from are, you know, trying to be independent from the city that they would be good events for Reach to take on.	03:28:39
	Moving forward O.	03:28:45
	So those are the items 3 point contest in the fun run.	03:28:46
	Continuing as the 5K and 1K.	03:28:52
	But the remainder of the events.	03:28:57
	Being provided.	03:29:00
	Offered back to reach essentially.	03:29:02
	Yes, I will say that I did talk to Mr. Martinez yesterday.	03:29:04
	And he said Reach is interested would still.	03:29:08
	Do the.	03:29:12
	Music and literature event.	03:29:14
	And he said that the volleyball.	03:29:16
	Clinics that he.	03:29:18
	He hosted.	03:29:21
	Really didn't turn out the way that he wanted them to. He expected it would be adults and teenagers and a lot of kids came out.	03:29:23
	And that wasn't his intent.	03:29:30
	So he.	03:29:32
	He said he doesn't think he'll do that again this year.	03:29:33
	So just wanted to share that with you.	03:29:39
	The most enjoyable event.	03:29:44
	On the bottom tier where it was the music and literature event.	03:29:47
	I mean, it really was.	03:29:51
	It was overflow attendance at Six Flags. We all got a chance to read.	03:29:53
	And the kids.	03:29:59
	Loved it, I love it.	03:30:01
	So I.	03:30:03
	Hope that the city and reach could we could develop that a little better, maybe at the beach one day like we did last time. And it	03:30:06
	was really cool. I mean there was so many kids there and.	03:30:11
	What do we do? We all read a paragraph out of a book or something.	03:30:17
	But maybe we could develop that a little more. Maybe we could stick to a story. I don't know, but I think.	03:30:22
	Reading the kids is.	03:30:27
	It's a great activity for the kids and it's a great activity for those of us that get to read to them so.	03:30:30
	I would love to see us partner with Reach on that and then.	03:30:35
	The other things just let reach bring them forward. If they, So what?	03:30:39
	Yeah, and I'm not really sure about the the mini soccer tournaments or the community softball games, but I imagine we're opening	03:30:44
	Bubbling Springs Park.	03:30:48
	And we may be able to include some of that.	03:30:53
	If that.	03:30:56
	Something we want to do later. Yeah. And I think it kind of goes with the conversation. These are the growing pains of Reach has	03:30:57
	always been a city.	03:31:00
	Sponsored entity and now they're.	03:31:04
	Independent and sort of like where's that line and which projects are we gonna lead and which ones are they gonna lead? But they	03:31:06
	can still come to us and so.	03:31:10
	I think.	03:31:14
	You know, one thought is if.	03:31:16
	If like for example I think.	03:31:18
	Mayor McQueen Legend noted that.	03:31:21
	Reach said they were interested in the music and literature events.	03:31:24
	You could, you know, essentially.	03:31:27
	The council could always consider if reach comes and asked for support.	03:31:29
	You know that can we can consider giving support on that.	03:31:33
	And as part of that, identifying what the city.	03:31:37
	Expects or wants from that.	03:31:39
	So I was trying to make the point that.	03:31:41
	For us to.	03:31:44
	Be involved to be a true partner because it was such a great community event. I mean, you couldn't ask for a better community	03:31:45
	event.	03:31:48
	So that would be.	03:31:55
	That's essentially the question here is how do we want to approach that? Do we want if Reach wants to continue it?	03:31:56
	And Councilmember?	03:32:04
	Martinez.	03:32:06
	Our former Councilmember Martinez.	03:32:07
	Plans to continue it. Do we want to identify that as a city project or do we want to let them?	03:32:10
	Come forward and.	03:32:16
	Mayor, I mean, we do have a public comment that may help.	03:32:18
	With the discussion, OK, yes, please. Let's go to the public comment please. Thank you.	03:32:23
	Good evening Mayor Mayor McQueen Lejeune, Mayor Pro Tem Lopez, council members, city staff, and members of the public.	03:32:28
	I appreciate the opportunity to comment on this agenda item and want to acknowledge the City's efforts in continuing several great	03:32:35
	community events. Sorry, this is from.	03:32:39
	Former Councilmember Bobby Martinez.	03:32:44
	I also wanted to highlight a few initiatives that were not mentioned in the staff report but have made a meaningful impact on our	03:32:47
	residents.	03:32:50
	1st I work to open the Boys and Girls Club gym to the public, providing the only open gym space in the city for residents to use.	03:32:54
	Including for pickleball.	03:33:02
	This cost the city about 10,000 a year and while I believe it's a great program to continue, it should only move forward if the	03:33:03
	Boys and Girls Club completes the necessary floor repairs as part of their current remodeling project.	03:33:09
	2nd the rock painting activity was something I initiated initiated for the first ever fun run.	03:33:16
	I personally provided the materials, sacks of water, rocks, paint and brushes.	03:33:21
	So the community could participate.	03:33:25
	Since then, I understand the Recreation and Community Services division has continued this activity.	03:33:27
	Though now with the $10 fee.	03:33:33
	Additionally, I advocated for the city and port to establish a scholarship program through the Community Benefit Fund.	03:33:35
	Well, I know there are still funding allocated for this year. The question remains whether we'll continue moving forward.	03:33:42
	Regarding other events, I commend the city for doing a great job with a three-point contest.	03:33:47
	Rich would be happy to support that again, as well as the fun run if additional help is needed.	03:33:52
	The music and literature event is something I hope to bring back through our Sister City committee.	03:33:58
	However, this year our focus is on the March 25th fundraiser, which you are all invited to, and our upcoming Puerto Vallarta visit	03:34:02
	in April.	03:34:06
	Originally, I helped the music and literature event for the Adel Nino when I was mayor.	03:34:11
	While I had the City Council approval and support, I didn't receive much direct assistance directly from the city.	03:34:15
	I may be able to organize it again next year.	03:34:21
	As for the sporting events, these are areas where REACH can likely step in, but we may need city support for facility use.	03:34:24
	Like we do for pickleball tournaments.	03:34:31
	Lastly, I want to clarify the community softball games were actually former Mayor Rollins idea.	03:34:33
	I just helped facilitate them.	03:34:38
	I truly hope the Council will continue to support as many of these initiatives as possible, but ultimately it is up to your	03:34:40
	discretion.	03:34:44
	Thank you for your time and consideration. And that was from Bobby Martinez.	03:34:47
	Great. Thank you.	03:34:52
	Anyone else?	03:34:55
	Can I maybe?	03:34:57
	Just, umm.	03:34:59
	There's a couple of things that I'll.	03:35:00
	Maybe add some detail to?	03:35:02
	So the Boys and Girls Club gym is one that.	03:35:05
	That.	03:35:09
	Mr. Martinez mentioned.	03:35:11
	That's not on this list because it's not an event, it's a program.	03:35:13
	We are expecting to.	03:35:17
	Look at closely at all programs as part of the budget and so.	03:35:20
	I think it's just.	03:35:25
	We'll talk about programs as part of the budget, but they weren't on the event event list.	03:35:26
	And then?	03:35:30
	There was something else he mentioned.	03:35:33
	Scholar. Oh, that's thank you.	03:35:36
	Yeah, scholarship is part of the Community Benefit Fund.	03:35:38
	So that gets voted on each year by council as part of the Community Benefit Fund.	03:35:41
	And so.	03:35:45
	It's not listed on here.	03:35:47
	You know, I guess.	03:35:50
	Somebody else may disagree or, you know, anybody could disagree, but.	03:35:54
	I didn't look at that as a.	03:35:57
	Event initiated by 1 council member. I looked at that as a Community Benefit Fund approved project.	03:35:59
	And I know he, Mr. Martinez, was on the joint committee. So, you know, I think he was part of that conversation. But.	03:36:05
	Those always are annually reviewed and can be considered. So we didn't include community benefit fund projects on this list. So	03:36:12
	Mayor, Mr. city manager, the Boys and Girls Club to that comment. The floor is not going to be repaired, so I don't know if that	03:36:17
	impacts.	03:36:23
	Their construction is not including.	03:36:28
	The gym, The floor.	03:36:30
	Oh, the gym at all? OK.	03:36:32
	Yeah, that's we were planning to have a follow up conversation with them and see kind of where they were at too, because it was a	03:36:35
	test.	03:36:37
	Program and part of it was going to be asking the Boys and Girls Club if they were, if they felt it was successful and if they	03:36:41
	wanted to continue it too.	03:36:44
	I don't think we have a.	03:36:48
	Since I'm on the board and that's why I'm saying we.	03:36:50
	Don't have it we.	03:36:52
	Did not have a problem with it, but if it's.	03:36:54
	If it's dependent on whether the floor is going to be repaired, that's not part of the construction. So we'll bring that. My	03:36:56
	suggestion would be we can bring that back as part of those budget discussions with the status update then.	03:37:01
	So this action is to.	03:37:10
	Mayor.	03:37:16
	Or, umm.	03:37:18
	Yeah, provide recommendation to city Manager.	03:37:20
	Anyone have any recommendations?	03:37:25
	As it relates to all the items.	03:37:32
	You talked about one item.	03:37:34
	Yeah, that's kind of like my suggestion is like I would like to see the city. I like to see us develop that program.	03:37:36
	It was highly successful.	03:37:42
	And I think it's good for the community.	03:37:44
	OK, anyone else? Yeah, the comment.	03:37:47
	Councilmember Hernandez, Yeah, I just wanted to ask the city manager if he captured.	03:37:50
	The comments from.	03:37:56
	Former Councilman Martinez is.	03:37:59
	Public comment.	03:38:01
	And was able to kind of.	03:38:02
	Decipher which ones you wanted to recommend and which ones we'll leave to reach.	03:38:04
	Because I wasn't following.	03:38:09
	That closely.	03:38:11
	I'd like to know what your staff recommendation is.	03:38:13
	Our recommendation was.	03:38:17
	And I'll explain the reason why, but I recommendation was to continue the three-point contest and then to continue with the 5K and	03:38:19
	1K and health and Wellness event.	03:38:23
	The reason why, again, we don't. We aren't.	03:38:28
	The reason why we didn't recommend staff continuing with the music and literature event is that the staff wasn't really my	03:38:31
	understanding. It was before my time, it wasn't. The staff wasn't really involved in the prior event and.	03:38:36
	Wasn't really prepared to continue it and I think that yeah, there was number prior event and I think he.	03:38:42
	She said that Sister City was going to lead it again. So.	03:38:48
	Perhaps we just.	03:38:52
	Tell them that we would like to be part of it and ask them to come to council and.	03:38:54
	And invite us to be part of it, if that's what they want or to propose, you know, basically they could propose what they would	03:38:59
	like the, you know, what role the city could have and if there's any sort of partnership there.	03:39:05
	So, but that's the decision for Council, but that's why we didn't have it on our list.	03:39:12
	Because I would support that.	03:39:18
	That recommendation?	03:39:19
	No, that's oh, it was already said. He said he wanted the.	03:39:24
	Children's for Sister City, so I was just going to make mention of that.	03:39:29
	Thank you. Anything else?	03:39:34
	OK, so is there is there a?	03:39:36
	Motion and a second.	03:39:39
	Let's try one more time.	03:39:40
	Move to approve Staffs recommendation of events.	03:39:42
	2nd.	03:39:46
	Roll call please.	03:39:49
	Councilmember Gama.	03:39:51
	Councilmember Hernandez? Yes. Councilmember Perez.	03:39:54
	Mayor Pro Tem Lopez, Yes, and Ma'am McQueen legend.	03:39:57
	Yes, motion passes unanimously.	03:40:00
	Thank you. Let's move to #14 strategic partnership.	03:40:03
	Will staff please present the report?	03:40:08
	Thank you.	03:40:10
	This item is.	03:40:12
	Is on the agenda today to allow the council to discuss. There's been some ideas for either a roundtable meeting, a joint meeting	03:40:15
	or.	03:40:18
	Potentially a series of meetings with various.	03:40:23
	Strategic partners for the city.	03:40:26
	I think I wanted to start by just noting that I do we've gotten good feedback from.	03:40:31
	Key partners.	03:40:37
	That at a staff level, we are working together and really developing those partnerships and we've really put an emphasis in doing	03:40:38
	that and rate.	03:40:42
	Regular meetings with our key partners, sort of staff to staff.	03:40:48
	But uh.	03:40:52
	Earlier this year, February 3rd when we discussed.	03:40:54
	The City Council.	03:40:58
	Sort of discuss the idea of.	03:41:00
	Doing that at a, you know, elected official to elected official level.	03:41:03
	Or some of these.	03:41:08
	Potential partners don't have elected officials, so.	03:41:10
	Or something similar in those situations.	03:41:13
	But that can take sort of various shapes it could take.	03:41:16
	And like I said, we had already discussed a couple of options, like either a roundtable meeting with.	03:41:22
	Multiple partners or joint meetings with.	03:41:27
	You know, with individual partners.	03:41:29
	So this items on the agenda to allow the Council to discuss.	03:41:31
	But there are a couple.	03:41:36
	There's a few questions that I think.	03:41:38
	Staff would need some direction on to move forward with or.	03:41:41
	As we discussed in the report that the Council could identify maybe a working group to workout.	03:41:45
	Including things like what agencies?	03:41:51
	Does the Council want to include, is it one agency per meeting? Multiple agencies per meeting?	03:41:54
	Which agencies should be brought together? Which one should be brought separately?	03:41:59
	Who to include from those agencies?	03:42:03
	Just as an example of why that's important if for example.	03:42:07
	The City Council meets with the school board. Then we have to make sure we're noticing both.	03:42:11
	Entities.	03:42:15
	In accordance with the Brown Act.	03:42:17
	Vice versa if if we're meeting with.	03:42:19
	The the Navy representatives and they are not elected officials then that.	03:42:22
	They they wouldn't necessarily have a noticed meeting, but we would have to have a noticed meeting.	03:42:27
	Or if it's.	03:42:33
	You know less than a quorum of.	03:42:34
	Of representatives then that would be a whole different situation. So those are the things we have to work through.	03:42:37
	The structure of what that meeting would look like.	03:42:43
	Agenda topics, Potential topics, because anything.	03:42:46
	If it becomes a Brown Act meeting.	03:42:49
	We have to have a set agenda.	03:42:51
	And and identify topics.	03:42:54
	And then obviously there's even just logistics things like.	03:42:58
	What time of day do we want to have the meeting? Is it is the intent to maximize public participation, in which case we might want	03:43:03
	to have.	03:43:06
	You know, certain meetings at a certain time.	03:43:09
	You know all of those things. Or is it intended to be more of a working meeting and you know, maybe it.	03:43:12
	That isn't quite quite as critical.	03:43:18
	These are just the questions as we started to really talk through, like what would these meetings look like?	03:43:20
	There's a lot of questions we have to answer to no.	03:43:25
	How we would move forward with these meetings?	03:43:29
	And so, as I mentioned a moment ago, one process I've seen.	03:43:32
	Is the Council could say we want to have a working committee of two council members who go out.	03:43:37
	And try to.	03:43:42
	Like, you know, put together.	03:43:44
	A proposal for what this meeting could look like and also reach out to.	03:43:47
	Like a representative from that agency and see if they would be amenable to having the same thing.	03:43:51
	Because for example, if we meet with.	03:43:57
	The school board or.	03:43:59
	Even the port board of.	03:44:01
	Directors.	03:44:03
	We're talking about, you know, essentially.	03:44:04
	10 people that would.	03:44:06
	Need to agree on.	03:44:08
	Or at least a majority of those that we need to agree on what that meeting would even.	03:44:09
	Be like so.	03:44:13
	So it's one of those things that we've talked about that the Brown Act is not here to make our lives easier. It's here to make	03:44:15
	sure that.	03:44:18
	That things are transparent.	03:44:21
	And so.	03:44:23
	We have to.	03:44:24
	Figure this.	03:44:25
	Out and then make sure that we're having the meeting.	03:44:26
	In a Brown Act compliant.	03:44:29
	Way so, so there's some details we need to figure out.	03:44:31
	Yeah, early on in.	03:44:35
	Councilmember Hernandez and Mines first term.	03:44:38
	We had a joint meeting with the Port of Winimi, which was Brown Act.	03:44:41
	I thought it was really good.	03:44:46
	And I also believe there was a lot of public participation and I think it was a working meeting, didn't we each man a table and	03:44:47
	have some people. It was a round table. Yeah, it was a round table. So I would say let's just go back to that and let's, let's	03:44:53
	just try to get together and have a meeting in that fashion. It was.	03:44:59
	It was.	03:45:06
	I thought it was good.	03:45:07
	I thought it's all elected, yeah.	03:45:09
	And I thought it was really good and I think.	03:45:12
	You know.	03:45:14
	It may be argued it's an uncomfortable and yeah, it probably is. Could be a little bit uncomfortable, but I think.	03:45:15
	If we were to.	03:45:21
	Maybe do it once a year.	03:45:22
	That we would.	03:45:25
	Really. Uh.	03:45:26
	Develop that.	03:45:26
	Partnership.	03:45:28
	Stronger.	03:45:30
	Elected body to elected body.	03:45:31
	Talking about the issues that we share.	03:45:34
	Councilmember Hernandez OK, so when I proposed this idea of a roundtable.	03:45:37
	The idea was that it would be one meeting.	03:45:44
	Not a series of meetings and it would be all inclusive of.	03:45:48
	All our partners, all our stakeholders at one time.	03:45:52
	A noticed meeting. If it has to be noticed, it could be noticed.	03:45:57
	With topic areas.	03:46:00
	And ask for maybe one or two representatives from each organization to come.	03:46:04
	This Council.	03:46:11
	Umm would do the invite.	03:46:12
	And we sit down and we talk about issues that are of concerning, that are of concern to us.	03:46:14
	Climate change.	03:46:22
	Other environmental concerns? Perhaps the dredging.	03:46:25
	Economic.	03:46:30
	Development.	03:46:31
	Public safety, Fire safety, Emergency Management, Traffic.	03:46:32
	One of the things that's on my mind, I don't know about the rest of you, but what's happening at the federal level is going to	03:46:38
	have an impact on all of us.	03:46:41
	And how are we going to work together? We only have control over our own little community here. How can we come together?	03:46:45
	And talk about these issues that are of concern to us.	03:46:52
	I think that it would, it could be a facilitated discussion. If we have money from the community benefit fund that we could use,	03:46:56
	maybe we can find some talent within our own ranks.	03:47:01
	Are one of the agencies have somebody who would be willing to facilitate the discussion, but let's just sit around.	03:47:06
	Meet each other and talk and I'm don't. And I'm not referring to just electives.	03:47:12
	Because not all these organizations that I've identified on my list are have elected bodies.	03:47:17
	And when I talk about who are our community partners, I'm talking about Navy Base, Oxnard Harbor District, County of Ventura, City	03:47:23
	of Oxnard, Wine, Amy School District, Oxnard School District, the fire department.	03:47:29
	Our nonprofits reach OPEC sister city.	03:47:35
	The Uncover Wonders store, that's a nonprofit here in our little business. They're doing a little business here.	03:47:38
	Our service clubs. Lions Club.	03:47:43
	VFW, I mean we really just open it up and let's.	03:47:46
	Let's have.	03:47:50
	A discussion and I think we'd have to narrow the topics down South. We don't get so.	03:47:51
	Lost and off track but I think.	03:47:55
	If we decide it works, we maybe we can do.	03:47:58
	Other topics later, but I think.	03:48:00
	What I'm hoping for is we can build a sense of community.	03:48:02
	You know that we all you know.	03:48:06
	I appreciate the fact that staff in the city manager's offices.	03:48:08
	Reaching out and they're working with.	03:48:12
	City of Oxnard they're working with.	03:48:14
	The Harbor District there, you're all doing that on a face to face basis and that's great.	03:48:17
	But.	03:48:23
	I really think that.	03:48:25
	Having.	03:48:27
	Us all together in one room.	03:48:28
	Can go a long ways in helping us.	03:48:30
	Build some collaboration and give us that sense of partnership.	03:48:32
	In our community.	03:48:37
	So those are my colleagues.	03:48:40
	Anyone else?	03:48:44
	Are there any public comments?	03:48:45
	No public comments. I had another thought I wanted to suggest too is umm.	03:48:49
	You know, in September is the time that we do our.	03:48:54
	We should be doing our state of the City address.	03:48:57
	Umm. And we we.	03:49:02
	We've all tried to do it as best we can. A lot of circumstances have occurred, you know, that have limited us during.	03:49:03
	My time it was COVID.	03:49:10
	Umm, so I did a presentation here before council, but the state of the city address is really it's a mayors.	03:49:12
	It's the mayor's address.	03:49:18
	To the community.	03:49:20
	And it's usually done in September.	03:49:21
	And it should be public.	03:49:24
	It's really it used to be hosted by the Chamber of Commerce. It used to be a breakfast meeting.	03:49:26
	And it would be presented by the mayor, and the mayor would come out and speak about.	03:49:31
	You know, the state of the city.	03:49:35
	But there were times for questions.	03:49:37
	There were times for some discussion there. Maybe there's a way we can fashion the state of the city address where we can.	03:49:39
	Talk about, you know, how the city's doing, you know?	03:49:45
	Of how good we're doing, maybe areas where we're working on where.	03:49:48
	What our concerns and then you know.	03:49:53
	Open it up to hear from the community.	03:49:56
	And maybe that's a way we could.	03:49:59
	We can start the discussion.	03:50:02
	That's just a thought.	03:50:04
	OK.	03:50:11
	So.	03:50:16
	So we have the recommendation in front of us.	03:50:18
	And I'm not saying either that it be instead.	03:50:21
	Meeting instead of the port.	03:50:24
	City meeting that.	03:50:27
	Councilman Gamal was talking.	03:50:29
	Talking about I think.	03:50:30
	That could be something separate.	03:50:31
	Great. But I'm not sensing that the Council is, you know, that's why you collaborate because you get the buy off and if we can't	03:50:37
	collaborate here on the idea, then maybe it's not.	03:50:42
	Something we can move forward with because I'm not sensing that we're doing that. So I tell you what, what is in my mind is.	03:50:47
	I needed to sit for a minute and think about it and maybe we can talk about it at a later time.	03:50:55
	But the recommendation that the City Council consider options.	03:51:01
	For City Council, collaboration with strategic partners and provide.	03:51:06
	Direction. Umm.	03:51:10
	Is there are there any?	03:51:11
	Recommendations.	03:51:14
	As relates to.	03:51:15
	The strategic partnership.	03:51:17
	Collaboration. I'd like to.	03:51:21
	Proposed reaching out to the.	03:51:23
	Harbor District and seeing if we could.	03:51:26
	Duplicate what we did back in 2019 or early 2020.	03:51:29
	As a starting point.	03:51:33
	So is that you still think that that?	03:51:37
	But.	03:51:40
	The Sand Summit wouldn't be a.	03:51:41
	Brown Act.	03:51:43
	Is it a no?	03:51:45
	Yeah, I don't think he, but if we turned it into the port of Winnemi and all of us showing up, then it would be.	03:51:46
	Yeah, but I just like to see us all get in the room and, you know, talk and.	03:51:54
	Talk issues, talk where we're going.	03:52:00
	Can I ask the city manager?	03:52:03
	Based on what I said, is that enough there for staff to maybe go back and?	03:52:05
	Maybe fine tune?	03:52:11
	The maybe does that help answer some of the questions about may I just interrupt for one said could we?	03:52:13
	If we had a.	03:52:19
	Elected. Elected meeting.	03:52:20
	And then invited all the different stakeholders with that.	03:52:22
	Meet your.	03:52:25
	Go. Well, yeah, I mean.	03:52:27
	Yes, I don't think it whether or not it's a Brown act or not a Brown act is an issue. All you have to do is notice the meeting	03:52:30
	with the agenda and.	03:52:34
	We're good to go, but if we had a.	03:52:39
	Elected elected meeting and invited all the different stakeholders.	03:52:41
	I think the comment, the comment that was made was that when you say elected to elected and all the other, they may be elected as	03:52:46
	well, no?	03:52:51
	But just just the Oxford Harbor District and the city of Port 180.	03:52:55
	Yeah, she's talking. No, but but we could schedule that meeting.	03:53:00
	And we can invite the VFW invite Ocean View Pavilion.	03:53:04
	Invite Surfrider, you're saying have a noticed meeting of the Council and the port, but invite other stakeholders, yes.	03:53:08
	Well, I think others would be.	03:53:16
	Invited, but I think the topic area would be.	03:53:18
	Umm, the topic area may not be of.	03:53:22
	Full interest to all these organizations, but we could make it like for example.	03:53:24
	The environment.	03:53:30
	If we're going to talk about the environment, there's coastal keepers or Surfrider, there's the community.	03:53:31
	I mean.	03:53:37
	A lot of people want to talk about that climate change, talk about talk about roads, talk about traffic, I mean, whatever we I	03:53:38
	think.	03:53:41
	I'm getting mixed up I think though, because maybe we had.	03:53:46
	Did the port have another meeting that we participated in?	03:53:50
	Where we put post its up on the.	03:53:53
	Right. And we, we participated as a body, right? All of us.	03:53:56
	Right, but not together.	03:53:59
	It was, it was. We went on our own time.	03:54:01
	On our own schedules, we didn't go as.	03:54:05
	As a council together.	03:54:08
	You each participated, but in your individual capacity.	03:54:10
	But they had like a workshop, didn't they? Remember it had like a workshop where we all paired up in groups, like 13 people at a	03:54:14
	roundtable.	03:54:17
	They gave us the stack of post its.	03:54:20
	Oh yeah, OK, that was.	03:54:23
	Yes, anyways.	03:54:25
	Yeah, maybe we could.	03:54:26
	Yeah, maybe we could reach out and.	03:54:28
	Try and see if there's two meetings or am I talking about the same? There were two different ones, yeah.	03:54:30
	Yeah, you're right.	03:54:34
	I just want to make a comment about the suggestion regarding the state of the city address.	03:54:36
	There was a.	03:54:42
	Very, very recent case out of the city of Ventura went to the California Supreme Court.	03:54:43
	Where the city of Ventura gave their State of the City address at a line, I believe a Lions Club meeting.	03:54:48
	And what they all the Supreme Court ultimately determined was even though the Lions Club members.	03:54:55
	Are paying to go in and have this breakfast. It still needed to be agendized. So it was a Brown act violation. Yeah, I wouldn't	03:55:02
	recommend.	03:55:06
	Your attention, yeah, I would recommend that.	03:55:13
	Yeah.	03:55:14
	So you know.	03:55:16
	There's a there's a lot of ideas, but.	03:55:19
	I think I heard.	03:55:23
	Two that I think.	03:55:25
	Are helpful.	03:55:27
	Are not that the other ones weren't.	03:55:29
	The other ones weren't, but I think for right this minute.	03:55:31
	Mayor McQueen legend, you, you had said that you were absorbing it and you were thinking and you might need some time to think.	03:55:36
	And I do think.	03:55:40
	I think that was the challenge, even like writing this item is there's so many different directions we could go with it that I	03:55:44
	think having like this initial discussion and then thinking and then coming back and making some decisions.	03:55:49
	I I don't necessarily.	03:55:56
	Know that.	03:55:58
	The more we talk about it, I don't know that we're ready to solve it tonight.	03:55:59
	And so there's.	03:56:04
	There's that.	03:56:06
	And then I think, oh, the comment about the community benefit fund potentially.	03:56:08
	Which, you know, we have to go through that process, but the idea of.	03:56:13
	If we were going to do a joint meeting, actually having a facilitator in that community benefit fund, that's also a good way for	03:56:17
	us.	03:56:20
	To fill out from the port if they support having that idea, you know, having that meeting.	03:56:23
	Because we'd all have to agree to put that into the Community Benefit Fund.	03:56:28
	I think that could be good. And I do think that's one of those conversations that for the benefit of everybody, it would be good	03:56:32
	to have a facilitator and so that it's just.	03:56:36
	You know a person leading the conversation. It's not.	03:56:40
	Perceived as being, you know, skewed in One Direction or the other.	03:56:43
	So.	03:56:46
	We could.	03:56:48
	Kind of.	03:56:49
	Have this initial conversation, take some time and think about it and then.	03:56:51
	Decide if we if the the CBF is going to come back to the council in a couple months so the council can decide at that point. Do	03:56:54
	you want to?	03:56:57
	Do you want to proceed with that process? Is that what the?	03:57:01
	Facilitator as a Community. Community benefit fund proposal to the Port.	03:57:03
	Yeah.	03:57:10
	In the meantime, are you gonna?	03:57:11
	Have a discussion with Kristen and.	03:57:12
	Let's see and probably brief her that this is the conversation and that this is this is the direction that we're going.	03:57:15
	We can get some feedback and get some input, but I will say, I think Kristen would say, which is the same thing I would say, which	03:57:23
	is at the end of the day.	03:57:26
	This is the five of your decision. And she'll probably say at the end of the day, it's the five of their decision, right? Yeah,	03:57:30
	so.	03:57:33
	So just I just want to make sure because I think that it almost like the conversation started off with strategic partnership.	03:57:36
	Holistically.	03:57:44
	And now I'm hearing port.	03:57:46
	And so I just want to make sure we're not talking about.	03:57:48
	Strategic planning with the port, we're talking about our partners.	03:57:52
	Which is bigger than the port.	03:57:56
	Yes, and.	03:57:59
	I guess there's some.	03:58:02
	Report You're talking about the Community Benefit Fund and the funding used for a facility facilitator or this?	03:58:04
	My thought would be that would be for a conversation with the port, but maybe you know, that's that's still the question for	03:58:11
	councils. Would you want that meeting to be inclusive of everybody or would you want to just have?	03:58:16
	You know, I don't think we've agreed yet on are we gonna have a meeting with everybody? Are we gonna have a meeting with the port	03:58:21
	and then a meeting with everybody? Right. Well, that's what I said. That's why I said those are two different types of meetings.	03:58:25
	Yeah.	03:58:29
	So what we could do is.	03:58:33
	Bring an item back in a month to make that decision and then we'll have direction for both.	03:58:35
	For both of those answers, yeah, perhaps you could go back and look at the meeting that we had.	03:58:41
	So that we.	03:58:48
	Because it was a joint meeting, it was Brown act. We're all at the table and.	03:58:50
	When you say we were all.	03:58:55
	The port commissioners and City Council, yeah, all ten of us, it was a joint.	03:58:57
	Meeting.	03:59:04
	So if we brought in, if we bring an item back in a month to kind of come back with that conversation, we could.	03:59:05
	Yes, we could recap how that meeting was operated and see if that's how you'd want to propose it.	03:59:11
	And if I could just say this one more thing, I think the more I think about it.	03:59:16
	You know the economic we have. We just adopted our economic development plan.	03:59:20
	Umm, I think economic impact of what's happening at the federal level, economic development for the city.	03:59:27
	I think that's.	03:59:33
	Maybe that's the topic.	03:59:34
	Maybe that's the time again.	03:59:37
	Yeah.	03:59:38
	And we?	03:59:40
	Of the federal policy changes.	03:59:41
	We do have an open conversation still that we need to schedule with the port.	03:59:43
	Oh, OK, everybody OK, got it.	03:59:50
	But the conversation with the port is using.	03:59:53
	Some of the kids.	03:59:56
	Community Benefit Fund for facilitator for the.	03:59:57
	For the whole community approach.	04:00:00
	All the stakeholders.	04:00:03
	So I'll add note that I went to an event where I was with the base commander.	04:00:04
	At Military Youth of the Year.	04:00:08
	Dinner.	04:00:11
	Where we nominated there for the Boys and Girls Club.	04:00:12
	And he?	04:00:14
	I'll have to call him out on this, He said. Anything that we need anytime we want to get together, just reach out so.	04:00:16
	He made the first, made the first introduction, made the mistake of offering. OK, So based on what we have, we've talked about if	04:00:22
	they're a motion.	04:00:26
	Motion maybe to send back.	04:00:30
	Send the topics back to.	04:00:33
	The ideas and topics back to staff to massage and.	04:00:37
	Come back with.	04:00:41
	Some ideas?	04:00:42
	We can do a couple options.	04:00:44
	Is there a second?	04:00:46
	2nd.	04:00:47
	OK.	04:00:49
	All in favor.	04:00:51
	Aye, all opposed.	04:00:52
	Hearing none, motion passes unanimously.	04:00:54
	Great. Thank you so much. We are getting there. We'll go to our city manager for any comments.	04:00:56
	Yeah. Thank you.	04:01:03
	Thank you. I have a couple of slides, but before I do that, I don't have a slide for something we just wanted to announce. We know	04:01:05
	that the.	04:01:09
	That.	04:01:14
	We know that.	04:01:15
	We get a lot of questions from the community. Thank you about.	04:01:16
	The status of Surfside Motel.	04:01:20
	And so we wanted to just note.	04:01:22
	The the latest update on that project is that the city has retained the services of the Civica law firm.	04:01:26
	And in particular, attorney Matt, who is an expert in the area of distressed properties and working with cities to compel property	04:01:34
	owners to bring properties up to code.	04:01:39
	And we have obtained his services to.	04:01:44
	Work to address the issues at Surfside Motel.	04:01:48
	And.	04:01:53
	Mr. Silver has worked with other cities in the region on similar issues.	04:01:55
	And with the same ownership group.	04:02:00
	And so we are looking forward to him working with the city and representing the city.	04:02:04
	To help move this project forward for the benefit of the whole community.	04:02:09
	And so we expect with that announcement.	04:02:13
	We're working diligently.	04:02:17
	And we will expect to have some further announcements.	04:02:18
	As we make progress in that process, so.	04:02:23
	So moving on from there.	04:02:27
	The couple items we wanted to highlight.	04:02:29
	And I think we got all the business out of the way. So I think these are the.	04:02:33
	The fun ones.	04:02:37
	Our recreation program is launching that after school STEM program that the City Council approved a grant.	04:02:39
	To support that project.	04:02:47
	And so the.	04:02:49
	Our Rec team is launching.	04:02:51
	This I believe it starts, I think the registration starts tomorrow, but.	04:02:53
	Looking for that to confirm and I don't see it but I think registration starts tomorrow.	04:02:58
	And people could find that information with this QR code or.	04:03:02
	Or on our website.	04:03:06
	For the umm.	04:03:08
	To start registering because the.	04:03:10
	After school program starts on April 1st.	04:03:13
	Oh yeah. Registration opens March 3rd, so that's today, yeah.	04:03:16
	So people can start signing up for these now.	04:03:20
	It's 1st through 5th grade STEM program.	04:03:23
	For after school.	04:03:26
	Do we have any feedback as to how well received?	04:03:28
	Calls about it, do we know? We've heard, we've heard interest in it. It's launching for the first time.	04:03:32
	Ever and it launched today, so.	04:03:38
	I don't think, I don't know that we had numbers to report yet.	04:03:40
	But we know that.	04:03:44
	We got some initial.	04:03:44
	Feedback that there's interest in it from from some of the.	04:03:46
	Parents that were.	04:03:50
	That we're participating in other recreation programming.	04:03:53
	So and we'll do a status update on that because we know it's a new program and everything else will will.	04:03:56
	Try to like kind of keep the council informed how that goes. Did you send the info over to the school district?	04:04:02
	I believe so, but we'll we'll make sure that they get it to them.	04:04:08
	Yeah, I believe the school district was actually one of the ones that seemed to be excited about it.	04:04:14
	The.	04:04:20
	We had a couple of events, well, an event recently that we wanted to.	04:04:22
	Highlight the Bubbling Springs Park planting project.	04:04:26
	This was part of our Bowling Springs renewal project.	04:04:30
	And we we had a planting at Bubbling Springs Park with volunteers helping to.	04:04:34
	Participate in planting the the new plants for the park.	04:04:40
	And so that was on February 22nd. We had a great turn out.	04:04:45
	We basically had I think.	04:04:49
	Think I heard we have basically a volunteer for every plant we needed to plant.	04:04:51
	OK, OK.	04:04:56
	We needed more plants.	04:04:57
	We probably should have ordered some more plants, but.	04:04:59
	So that was a good event, good turn out.	04:05:03
	And then we're also calling, we're putting a call out for volunteers for the historical museum.	04:05:05
	The worst?	04:05:11
	It was exciting that we got the museum up and open, but we need more volunteers to help.	04:05:12
	Help keep it going so we're.	04:05:19
	We're still asking for that and there's a couple posts on like our Facebook page and those.	04:05:22
	Sites that have more information on that.	04:05:27
	Then last.	04:05:31
	The uh.	04:05:33
	March 17th agenda actually a couple of these items have moved, but.	04:05:35
	Let me highlight.	04:05:41
	I think the.	04:05:44
	The presentations we're still working on.	04:05:47
	We ended up with a lot of items on this agenda, so we're trying to balance the agenda out and I just didn't get to update it this	04:05:50
	morning.	04:05:54
	But those presentations may.	04:05:57
	Move. Umm.	04:06:00
	The umm.	04:06:02
	Because we have the public hearings for the special use permit for Beach Fest this 2025.	04:06:03
	And also a special unit use permit for the.	04:06:09
	Poor any me movie nights for this year so those.	04:06:12
	Items are timely.	04:06:16
	We are planning to bring the we got a map, a site map with themes for the utility box project from Reach and we'll be bringing	04:06:19
	that back.	04:06:23
	At this meeting.	04:06:27
	We have our annual general plan update. That is just an annual requirement. We have to get done by April 1st of each year. So	04:06:28
	that'll be on this agenda and it's timely.	04:06:33
	And then we have the dredge update we talked about.	04:06:37
	So there's a couple other items that we had on the list that we wanted to do. I just didn't get to update it because.	04:06:39
	Because of those deadlines and timelines.	04:06:45
	The items I didn't mention may may need to get.	04:06:48
	Pushed back a meeting.	04:06:51
	But umm.	04:06:53
	Those are the items that we're planning to bring for March 17th at this time, so.	04:06:54
	And that's, oh, actually there was one last thing I wanted, we wanted to do. Normally I end there.	04:07:00
	But we did want to highlight the service of or being Carpenter.	04:07:05
	Who passed away shortly after his 100th birthday.	04:07:09
	A couple weeks ago.	04:07:13
	It's hard to summarize his resume because it's an extremely impressive resume with.	04:07:17
	Decades of service to the community.	04:07:23
	And so we just wanted to once again highlight that and thank him for the legacy he leaves.	04:07:26
	And it was.	04:07:33
	The city's pleasure to.	04:07:36
	Sponsor his.	04:07:39
	100th birthday by allowing him use of the Community Center that is named after him.	04:07:40
	And so I think that was great that we were able to do that.	04:07:45
	As we all know, he passed.	04:07:49
	Just a couple.	04:07:51
	Weeks after that time so.	04:07:52
	We have.	04:07:55
	Sent regards to his.	04:07:56
	Family from from the city.	04:07:59
	So we just wanted to highlight his service as we.	04:08:00
	End SO.	04:08:04
	Thank you for that opportunity.	04:08:05
	And that's everything I have.	04:08:08
	Thank you.	04:08:11
	Mr. City Manager for recognizing Orvena, I hope that we can.	04:08:14
	His memory. Will we be sending flowers?	04:08:17
	On behalf of the city.	04:08:22
	Yes.	04:08:23
	We are sending on behalf of the city.	04:08:24
	Great. We'll move to Council member.	04:08:28
	Reports.	04:08:30
	Remember, Perez, do you have anything?	04:08:32
	I do not have anything to report back on.	04:08:35
	Councilmember Gamma.	04:08:38
	Hope you all remember my last inspiration had to do with water pipes and how impressive and inspiring they are.	04:08:40
	Earlier tonight we saw that diagram. I don't know if you all noticed, but I noticed.	04:08:47
	The separation between the city of Oxnard and Waeneme.	04:08:52
	Their pipes go to their place, our pipes come to ours.	04:08:56
	And it just got me recalling like how?	04:08:59
	Magnificent.	04:09:02
	It is to be able to see everything that's underground.	04:09:04
	It's just mind boggling. And then of course, celebrating our.	04:09:08
	Employees for a job well done.	04:09:12
	Every March 17th is Saint Patty's Day, Saint Patrick's Day.	04:09:16
	And we're going to be having a meeting on Saint Patrick's Day.	04:09:21
	Yeah, you guys are not going to believe this.	04:09:25
	My great grandma May was Irish.	04:09:29
	That makes me.	04:09:31
	8%.	04:09:33
	16% maybe?	04:09:34
	So I am Irish.	04:09:36
	I will be wearing a green jacket.	04:09:37
	And I hope that we could have.	04:09:39
	Short presentation honoring.	04:09:42
	Saint Patricks Day, perhaps, and.	04:09:45
	Maybe I'll make a request for an agenda item for that.	04:09:47
	But we can have fun with it, I'm sure.	04:09:50
	Wyoming beach clean up this last Saturday we partnered with Surfrider.	04:09:55
	We. We.	04:10:01
	Went through the appropriate channels and were able to place 4 dumpsters out near the outfall.	04:10:02
	We pretty much filled them up.	04:10:07
	And.	04:10:10
	The city staff stepped up big time.	04:10:11
	And uh.	04:10:14
	They took it upon themselves to.	04:10:16
	Use this.	04:10:19
	Buckets of the loader.	04:10:21
	As a dumpster and they took the bigger items out which was amazing.	04:10:23
	But we're doing so well out there in a.	04:10:28
	Every week we get new volunteers and so.	04:10:31
	It really isn't work.	04:10:35
	It is.	04:10:37
	Wellness and it's really enjoyable. So I hope you guys could come out sometime.	04:10:38
	Earlier we I spoke about recusing myself from the.	04:10:45
	Closed session item.	04:10:51
	You know we have to.	04:10:54
	Be on the lookout for.	04:10:57
	Bad, bad information.	04:10:59
	And when we make decisions with bad information.	04:11:02
	Really. Uh uh.	04:11:06
	Causes us.	04:11:07
	Grief and certainly caused me grief because the information I had was that I was able to, but.	04:11:09
	Clearly I was not.	04:11:14
	We have a fundraiser coming up for Sister City.	04:11:23
	Beacon.	04:11:27
	Most important thing.	04:11:28
	So I had a meeting with Beacon yesterday.	04:11:29
	Or actually, last Friday.	04:11:32
	And.	04:11:34
	It was a real time for.	04:11:36
	Reflection.	04:11:38
	Been on the board for six years now.	04:11:40
	And uh.	04:11:42
	When I first came to the board.	04:11:43
	You know, the Coastal Commission, everything had to go through the Coastal Commission and.	04:11:45
	We started having, of course, I came in guns a blazing.	04:11:49
	And I wanted to have.	04:11:52
	Conversations how the Coastal Commission governs the whole state as if we're all the same.	04:11:55
	And one of the things that we realize is that every beach community is different.	04:11:59
	So our issues with sand are much different than Santa Barbara, Goleta, Ventura, Oxnard.	04:12:03
	One of the first things that we try to do at Beacon was get the.	04:12:10
	Coastal Commission to recognize that.	04:12:14
	And the area where they.	04:12:16
	Were most stubborn was basin debris?	04:12:18
	So we have all these flood control basins that Philip was sediment.	04:12:22
	Which was destined?	04:12:26
	Go to the beach and the Coastal Commission would make us.	04:12:28
	Empty out the.	04:12:31
	The catch bases and take it to a landfill.	04:12:33
	So after all these years, we we finally we did a small project.	04:12:35
	In Carpinteria.	04:12:40
	Where we took the sediment from the debris basin and took it to Carpinteria Beach.	04:12:42
	Let the ocean spread it around.	04:12:47
	And so.	04:12:49
	The Coastal Commission bought into it and that program is expanding now.	04:12:51
	And, umm.	04:12:55
	We're really excited to.	04:12:57
	Finally be able to, you know, we talked about sea level rise and it's like.	04:12:59
	You know we've cut off.	04:13:03
	Mountains, ability to become a beach and every mountain when it gets rained on.	04:13:04
	It's trying to become a beach.	04:13:10
	And so we have all these impediments that stop that sediment from getting to the beach and so.	04:13:11
	It's just.	04:13:16
	It was a big, big celebration to realize that we are making headway.	04:13:18
	And then?	04:13:22
	Interesting enough there's rumors, I don't know if there's true or not, but the coastal Commission might be disbanded or?	04:13:24
	Reorganized or reconfigured?	04:13:31
	I think that's.	04:13:34
	Great opportunity again for US coastal cities.	04:13:35
	Because we've learned so much since the enactment of the Coastal.	04:13:38
	Commission in 1976. I believe so.	04:13:43
	You know there's going to be a.	04:13:48
	Some great opportunities coming forward for a coastal environments and so we're really excited and.	04:13:51
	Supervisor Lopez.	04:13:56
	Nominated me to be the Co chair and I was quite surprised and I got voted in so.	04:13:58
	Glad to.	04:14:05
	Beyond it.	04:14:07
	And like I said, we're making really good progress and we're moving forward with a lot of.	04:14:09
	Great projects.	04:14:13
	Great. Thank you.	04:14:17
	Just a couple of things I participated in.	04:14:20
	Just recently was the Ormond Beach hearing on the.	04:14:23
	Lease extension to continue the.	04:14:27
	Ormond Beach.	04:14:30
	Power plant and a lot of opposition to that.	04:14:32
	Rightly so, I think, the community.	04:14:35
	Of.	04:14:37
	B2 very upset that they are.	04:14:38
	Continuing to operate that.	04:14:41
	Facility.	04:14:43
	I think we'll hear more about.	04:14:45
	That also attended the robotics competition The Opening.	04:14:47
	With Mayor Pro Tem who did a great job.	04:14:52
	Representing the city and.	04:14:54
	We were there with the port and the county and.	04:14:56
	It was, it was very inspiring event. It was great. I hope to make it back next weekend.	04:15:00
	This week is very busy.	04:15:06
	I will be attending the.	04:15:08
	RDP strategic meeting on Wednesday SO.	04:15:10
	Mr. City Manager, I'll probably be.	04:15:14
	Talking to you about the comments that I'll be taking just to make sure that.	04:15:15
	They're accurately reflecting what?	04:15:19
	We discussed today.	04:15:21
	We've got Thursday, we've got SCAG meetings.	04:15:24
	In the morning.	04:15:28
	Then CPA in the afternoon.	04:15:30
	That'll be a busy day.	04:15:32
	Downtown LA.	04:15:34
	And then we have the coastal communities.	04:15:36
	Annual Coastal Communities meeting coming.	04:15:39
	In Goleta on the 14th.	04:15:42
	I'll be attending that that.	04:15:45
	And that, for now is also.	04:15:48
	Great. Thank you, Mayor.	04:15:52
	Do you have anything? Yes, we we, we did attend the first robotic.	04:15:53
	That's the name of the.	04:15:59
	The group, it's called First Robotics. This was their third annual.	04:16:01
	Event here at Port Winnie, ME.	04:16:05
	So we presented the proclamation.	04:16:07
	It was. It was pretty cool. Pretty cool event.	04:16:10
	Fathom works.	04:16:14
	NAV See the port.	04:16:16
	And.	04:16:18
	Co sponsored this event via the Community Benefit Fund that just came from the port and and the city.	04:16:20
	We presented the five thousand $5000 check from the from the Community Benefit Fund.	04:16:27
	And that that is a STEM program, so.	04:16:33
	I'm going to be talking to these local schools that we have here.	04:16:36
	We're going to have to try to form a team.	04:16:40
	So we can compete here locally.	04:16:42
	I think that would be fun.	04:16:44
	For uh.	04:16:45
	For Port Amy.	04:16:47
	But that's all I have.	04:16:48
	Thank you.	04:16:50
	Yeah, I missed it. I so I was able to go the last couple of years and missed it this year.	04:16:51
	And next weekend, so.	04:16:56
	But but thank you for I've been really busy under the weather the last few weeks or more than a few weeks. And so I know you've	04:16:58
	stepped in and been in every picture. I'm like, OK, he's there. Thank you. Thank you so much for that. I appreciate it. Other than	04:17:04
	that, I don't have anything to share.	04:17:10
	And so let's move on to requests for future agenda items.	04:17:17
	Councilmember.	04:17:22
	Could we have a?	04:17:26
	Not sure if it's a proclamation or a resolution for Saint Patrick's Day.	04:17:28
	On the agenda for.	04:17:34
	Saint Patrick's Day.	04:17:35
	Proclaiming.	04:17:39
	That day is Saint Patrick's Day.	04:17:40
	It's already, it's already proclaimed.	04:17:43
	Yeah, normally.	04:17:46
	So normally the city will proclaim a day when.	04:17:48
	You know, it's not a federal or state recognized day, so.	04:17:51
	A proclamation.	04:17:55
	We could do it if the council wanted to do it, it's just I would just like to.	04:17:57
	Who's doing the inspiration?	04:18:02
	Not not me, but I could.	04:18:04
	I think it's me.	04:18:06
	Next week.	04:18:07
	You know that the Irish have a fascinating story in this country and I think it's a very.	04:18:09
	Inspire inspirational and they were also discriminated against heavily so.	04:18:15
	Just saying.	04:18:20
	So I don't know what are we gonna do?	04:18:23
	I got a really good green jacket, I'm telling you right now.	04:18:24
	Yeah.	04:18:28
	Can I? Can I do a little?	04:18:29
	I have a friend.	04:18:33
	That's Irish immigrant that's doing very well in this country.	04:18:35
	Can he can always because public comment.	04:18:40
	OK, so.	04:18:44
	We are deciding not. Are we talking about yourself? No.	04:18:45
	I have a friend.	04:18:51
	You guys.	04:18:57
	This is serious business.	04:18:58
	There's a lot of Irish Americans.	04:19:00
	In our country.	04:19:02
	And the holiday is celebrated worldwide now.	04:19:03
	And I.	04:19:06
	Think we should do something as.	04:19:08
	Yeah, we're dressing green and then.	04:19:10
	No proclamation. OK, I'm gonna get a certificate.	04:19:14
	How about an inspiration though?	04:19:17
	Who would you want to trade inspirations with Jess?	04:19:18
	The mayor is scheduled for inspiration on the 17th.	04:19:21
	So do you want to change? We can switch, right?	04:19:26
	OK, Do we?	04:19:29
	I swear you y'all be entertained. You'll have a great you'll get. You'll get a lot out of this.	04:19:31
	We could just do that.	04:19:39
	OK.	04:19:42
	They've got a problem.	04:19:44
	I think so, yeah.	04:19:47
	Do you have anything I do?	04:19:50
	OK, so.	04:19:52
	We talked about committees and commissions today, so I'm going to come up with a motion here, but.	04:19:53
	I do.	04:19:59
	I do want to propose staff come up.	04:20:01
	Come up with some guidelines for Veterans Advisory Commission.	04:20:05
	And this Commission would be as a resource for writing advice, making recommendations to the City Council and the manager.	04:20:09
	Impacting veterans.	04:20:16
	Additionally, this Commission would serve at a central point for coordinating the Community's efforts recruiting.	04:20:18
	Volunteers for various community driven projects such as such as veteran's day, Memorial Day.	04:20:23
	Given that we have two military bases here, we have a VFW, we have.	04:20:29
	Service members in our community and veterans in our community.	04:20:35
	Retired veterans and and.	04:20:39
	It to me, it's fitting.	04:20:42
	This this Commission.	04:20:44
	Initially can start off once 1/4.	04:20:46
	And see how this.	04:20:50
	This Commission.	04:20:52
	So I would like to make a motion.	04:20:54
	To establish, you know, have staff come come up with a.	04:20:59
	The basically coming up with a creation of a veterans.	04:21:06
	Advisory Commission.	04:21:09
	A second.	04:21:14
	No discussion.	04:21:17
	Should it?	04:21:19
	Remember, should it include?	04:21:21
	Point. That's just the question of if we want it on an agenda.	04:21:23
	So a person in the military isn't a veteran, correct?	04:21:28
	A person who is currently in the military. So what I'm trying to suggest is maybe we should broaden it.	04:21:31
	Because in.	04:21:36
	I already have a framework it, it does talk about active duty military, right? But as the motion is for veterans.	04:21:38
	No, it's all military veterans.	04:21:46
	Right, OK.	04:21:49
	You need all in favor. Aye aye, all opposed.	04:21:51
	Hearing none, motion passes unanimously.	04:21:54
	For all veterans.	04:21:58
	Is it? Yes I have one item.	04:21:59
	And City Manager, I think we've talked about it before, but I'd like to kind of.	04:22:03
	Maybe put it on agenda, talk about and see if it's something we want to do.	04:22:07
	Um, I'd like to.	04:22:11
	Add to a future agenda.	04:22:16
	Creating proclamations for our residents that turn 100.	04:22:18
	OK. Just having like a standard, just standard program.	04:22:25
	Turn 100.	04:22:32
	Of course, we know in proclamations they have to provide the information. Centennial celebration. Centennial celebration, Yeah,	04:22:33
	I'll second that.	04:22:37
	All in.	04:22:44
	Aye.	04:22:46
	All opposed.	04:22:47
	Hearing none, motion passes unanimously.	04:22:48
	Thank you. Does anyone have anything else?	04:22:51
	Nothing else.	04:22:55
	OK. Thank you. SO.	04:22:56
	Yes. Umm.	04:22:59
	So we are going to adjourn today's meeting in the memory of Mr. Orvin Carpenter.	04:22:59
	The legacy that he created during his life.	04:23:06
	And that will remain in our hearts and our history.	04:23:09
	So we'd like to adjourn there and then our next meeting is going to be Monday 17th, March 17th.	04:23:13
	At 6:30.	04:23:19
	PM meeting is adjourned.	04:23:20
	Monday, March 7th.	04:23:23
	At 9:52, Sorry.	04:23:26
	He's going to bring the green.	04:23:28