Transcript

Like to call the meeting to order. Welcome to the transaction, transaction and use tax. 00:00:10
Citizens Oversight Committee Meeting. I'm calling the meeting to order and the time is? 00:00:16
5:05 PM. 00:00:24
Madam Clerk planning to take the role. 00:00:27
Here. 00:00:34
Here member Williams. 00:00:38
Here here. 00:00:40
We don't seem to have anybody here for public comments, so. 00:00:46
That's and we have no presentation, so let's. 00:00:50
Skip ahead to the consent calendar. 00:00:53
We will now consider items on the consent calendar, which will be enacted in one motion. 00:00:56
Unless there is request remove. 00:01:01
An item for discussion. 00:01:03
Does anybody have? 00:01:05
And then if you like to discuss. 00:01:08
In the consent calendar. 00:01:10
No, I I've reviewed them. They look correct. 00:01:15
Excuse me, I said. I had reviewed them. They looked fine to me, So. 00:01:19
All in favor. 00:01:25
Aye, aye. 00:01:27
Motion is passed. 00:01:30
OK. Business items. 00:01:35
Measure youth transaction and use Tax Fiscal Year report. 00:01:38
2024 through 2025 Proposed Budget report. 00:01:43
Will staff please present the report? 00:01:48
Good afternoon, I. 00:01:53
Measure your reset, committee members. 00:01:55
We had discussed at the last meeting that we will be presenting the proposed budget for Measure U for fiscal year 2425 and that is 00:01:58
the information that you have in your packages and then I'm going to go over the highlights. 00:02:06
Basically covering that information a little bit more detail this first slide, I just wanted to share the little bit of the 00:02:14
history in the last four fiscal years. 00:02:19
Of what the measure you revenue has generated? 00:02:25
You can see that in fiscal year 2122. 00:02:29
It was just just a little bit over $3,000,000. 00:02:33
And 2223 had a pretty significant growth of 343,000. 00:02:38
Or 11.2%. 00:02:44
In fiscal year 2324, we're expecting, we haven't closed out the year, but the the projection is almost 3.63.589. 00:02:47
And you can see the growth is 178,394. 00:02:58
And then the projection for 20/24/25 is 3.6 million, a growth of 42,000 or 1.2%. And really what I wanted to point out here is 00:03:02
that you can see that it's pretty much, we had pretty significant growth increases of 11% and it's just starting to level off. 00:03:11
And HDL, who's our consultant who provides us with these estimates. 00:03:21
Gives us some, you know, a lot background on the economy and what's going on. We have our next meeting with them early April, so 00:03:27
we'll. 00:03:31
Get more numbers and and find out if this 3.6 number is going to change. 00:03:35
But what they are seeing is just consumer spending is starting to slow down and I think that's the reason that you see that 00:03:42
measure you. 00:03:46
Increases are starting to level off. 00:03:50
But again, we're for this purpose of today's meeting and for the budget, the number that we are projecting is the three-point. 00:03:54
$6 million. 00:04:03
And then I just broke out the. 00:04:05
Expenses that. 00:04:08
Our projected budget expenses that will be supported by Measure U. 00:04:13
By different categories. So for public safety, we're looking at 1,000,007. 00:04:18
Which is composed of all the detail that you see here in front of you. So we have a couple of police. 00:04:24
Officer positions that one Sergeant position. 00:04:33
Of two police officers senior positions. 00:04:37
50% of 1 police officer. 00:04:42
Police communication officer dispatch 3 full time positions. 00:04:45
The cat system. 00:04:52
That was in the budget last year, but we started at this fiscal year. I'm sorry. 00:04:54
And this integrated virtual response software is scheduled to be completed next fiscal year and our we're projecting to spend 00:05:01
$170,000. 00:05:06
And 20 fiscal year 25. 00:05:11
And then there are various equipment like radar, guns, vest replacements. 00:05:14
Crime scene tape, evidence bags and other equipment that in total we have in the budget $87,000. 00:05:21
To purchase that equipment. 00:05:30
The homeless voucher program we have in the budget currently $10,000. 00:05:34
Um. In the past, we've spent about 6000. In fiscal year 23, we spent $10,000 buying vouchers. 00:05:41
At the for the actually, Chief Salinas purchase vouchers for the Holiday Inn for homeless. 00:05:50
The next line item we have $38,000 for investigation and evidence safety supplies. 00:05:58
In software like the Flock cameras. 00:06:08
And what are flock cameras? 00:06:13
What are the flock cameras? 00:06:16
What are the camera? The flock cameras? Are those one by officers or the? 00:06:20
I I have to get back to you on that one because I asked for a lot of the detail, but I didn't ask about specifics. So this is the 00:06:26
budget we're getting it from what? 00:06:30
PD Provided when we generated the two year budget. 00:06:35
Two years ago. 00:06:39
But let me. 00:06:41
I'll note that one and I'll get back to you. 00:06:42
Umm. 00:06:45
There's $40,000 in the current budget right now for firearms and weapons. 00:06:48
And then I just want to point out, for crossing guards, we pay all city management. 00:06:55
For the cross guards and the amount continues to go up every every year. 00:07:02
The current contract is up to $95,000. 00:07:09
However, I do have to point out that we also bill the district for 50% of that, so I'm going to be reducing that amount by half. 00:07:13
And I have. 00:07:23
A proposed replacement, if you will, for this. 00:07:27
And that is an item that's going to go to council on Tuesday to support the Waianae Beach Festival. 00:07:31
Where the city is proposing to donate $35,000 to the beach festival. 00:07:38
And also. 00:07:44
The Explorers are going to be managing, if approved, the Beach Festival, so there will be a donation of $25,000 to the Police 00:07:46
Explorers. So that is what I'm proposing to replace that difference because. 00:07:52
This is the full amount, but we are again we get reimbursed 50%. 00:07:58
Uniforms. The next line item is uniform expenses, the reimbursements for our police officers. 00:08:05
And then the vehicles for for PD. 00:08:14
So the total for police, again, we're looking at a million 744. 00:08:18
So that's about close to 50% of the funds then? 00:08:33
48%, I think. 00:08:38
Of the PD budget. Oh that. Oh, that. The sales tax, Yes. And I think that there was a question in the past. 00:08:41
Our police budget for total budget for 2425 is $11.3 million. 00:08:49
Yes. 00:08:57
Can I ask another question? 00:09:00
So when we're. 00:09:03
Back looking at the officers, are these new positions or we're supporting the current positions? These are existing positions. 00:09:04
Any other questions? 00:09:16
So I did Google with a flock cameras. 00:09:18
And it says that. 00:09:22
They're pretty much like license plate readers. 00:09:24
Oh, license plate readers. Yeah. Yeah, those, they're all over the city. Yeah. OK. Thanks. Thank you. 00:09:27
They've been used to catch people installing cars like crazy. 00:09:39
Yeah, it's like. 00:09:43
Good investment. 00:09:46
OK. So the next one is the. 00:09:49
The expenditures related to streets and maintaining the parks and cities, so for that component. 00:09:55
The total streets and maintenance. 00:10:04
Budget for Measure U is 1,000,000 Four $75894. 00:10:07
And we have a maintenance staff, one full time person that maintains the city parks, the pier. 00:10:13
Removing graffiti. 00:10:22
And that's the $79,000 we have. Supplies, equipment, rental, concrete. 00:10:25
That's $86,000. 00:10:33
And St. staff. 00:10:35
2.25. 00:10:38
Full time equivalent. 00:10:40
Maintaining the streets, the alleys, the sidewalks, any public streets. 00:10:42
That's $171,000. 00:10:49
And and then the next line item of 29,000 is any tools and equipment that is needed? 00:10:52
The budget is $29,000 for that. 00:11:02
And then we have the facility streets and landscape vehicles. 00:11:06
At 68,000. 00:11:11
There's a storm drain rehabilitation that needs to be done. 00:11:15
At the Port City Plaza and that's 90 estimated at $95,000. So there's some capital improvement projects in this category. 00:11:19
The next one, which is a big one, is replacing the underground storage tanks. 00:11:29
And that's required by the state and the estimated amount for next fiscal year that is budgeted for is half $1,000,000. 00:11:35
And what this is, is these are the storage tanks that store the fuel and the diesel. 00:11:45
For all of the city vehicles, you know PD Public Works and why it's important? Because. 00:11:52
We are able to access our own fuel versus going out and purchasing you know at the at the fuel stations. 00:11:59
We get a discounted. 00:12:06
And then I think more most importantly, everything is important but also in case of an emergency we're able to, we have priority. 00:12:09
For purchasing fuel. 00:12:17
Yes, it's a nightmare when those tanks start leaking, so you're far better off replacing them way ahead of time. I think they'll 00:12:19
have to be double walled now or something, right? 00:12:23
Yeah, so. 00:12:28
Those line. 00:12:30
I think it would be very important for. 00:12:32
Our city manager to look at when we start looking at doing the switch from. 00:12:35
Gas and diesel to electric. 00:12:42
Since we're a nice small little city that we can meet. 00:12:45
Electric that's just overhead costs that can go away environmentally and better for us, so it's a nice argument to bring up. 00:12:50
When it comes that time. 00:12:58
Then the next line item is improvements to the parking lot at Miranda Park. 00:13:05
35,000. 00:13:11
Citywide all the parking lot improvements at the beach, the library, at the parks. 00:13:13
265,000. 00:13:19
The next one lumps a couple of items that are like facilities, the clothing uniform reimbursement. 00:13:23
UM 7000. 00:13:29
And then the graffiti removal, I think we might even have to increase that based on a conversation we had this morning with our 00:13:32
facilities. 00:13:36
Director that there's a lot of graffiti lately. It's really been so we have right now 15,000 again, that's what we have in the 00:13:41
budget when we generated the two year budget. But I really feel like we probably got to revisit that and maybe double it because I 00:13:48
don't know that 15,000 is enough, you know, to clean everything for the entire year. 00:13:55
The building maintenance. 00:14:07
Small appliances and supplies. That's 89,700. 00:14:10
The facilities property maintenance is $30,000 after I had put this together and we were drilling down and really drilling on to 00:14:15
find out what is in those line items. This is actually facility maintenance for the city owned properties. 00:14:23
So I don't feel that that is related to measure U. 00:14:31
So I'd like to propose that we include one lifeguard. 00:14:36
For the Learn to Swim program, and that's probably about $50,000, so that more than covers that. 00:14:40
So that I'd like to replace that because that. 00:14:46
The the line item that's currently there is not applicable I don't think. 00:14:50
And then small Tools $5000. So that's the total of 1,000,000, four 75. 00:14:56
Yeah. If I could, before we change slides, maybe just give some. 00:15:03
Thought on a couple of these and one is actually to the comment from committee member Vic. 00:15:09
Oddly enough, earlier this week. 00:15:18
We had remembered. 00:15:23
About a year ago, the county was doing an electric vehicle infrastructure grant program with the idea, especially for smaller 00:15:25
cities, that the smaller cities weren't going to be able to do some of the like the Charger installations and things that maybe 00:15:29
larger cities. 00:15:34
Would make more sense. 00:15:39
Just like the value wouldn't be there for smaller cities. 00:15:42
So we actually. 00:15:46
I reached out to the county and asked if we'd still be able to get into that grant opportunity, and we actually found out that we. 00:15:48
Are able to still and so we're probably. 00:15:56
We're working with them right now to potentially apply for upwards of two to $300,000 to start doing some of the electric vehicle 00:15:59
charger infrastructure. 00:16:02
So we are working on that. Hopefully it'll be grant funded and we won't even need to use our our actual city funds on that, so. 00:16:06
That's in process now. 00:16:14
And then just to the point about the graffiti. 00:16:16
We've been hit really bad the last couple of months, particularly even this weekend, something I hadn't seen before, which is 00:16:20
graffiti. 00:16:25
Across the tennis courts and pickleball courts on the actual court surface. 00:16:30
Which is very frustrating. 00:16:34
And so we're doing a couple of things in one on top of having to order some supplies like we have to order special coatings for 00:16:36
the tennis courts and pickleball courts to try to fix that. 00:16:41
But at the same time working with the police chief. 00:16:46
We're looking at having an officer who's going to be more focused on graffiti abatement and doing what? 00:16:50
I think Oxnard may be the only city locally who does this, but they have a dedicated officer and he. 00:16:57
Has he documents all of the graffiti? 00:17:02
And then actually has the ability to when he sees graffiti, he knows. 00:17:06
Like 9 times out of 10, exactly who it was and he can just go right to them. And you know, we know this is your graffiti because 00:17:10
we have it documented. And now this new one popped up. 00:17:15
And it really helps with the the. 00:17:20
The enforcement side of it? 00:17:22
And so we're already starting. 00:17:24
That process with our Police Department to start having our existing officers start doing that and and then as we. 00:17:26
Fill some of the vacant positions we have. We currently have two vacant PD positions then we'll look to have some more time 00:17:33
dedicated to that. So we're we're working on. 00:17:37
Not just buying more paint to cover it, but trying to actually. 00:17:41
Stop it the best we can so he becomes a. 00:17:45
Art critic Pretty much, Pretty much. And right now it does look to me like it's two people from competing territories who seem to 00:17:49
be, I think there's three of them because I keep seeing kind of the same thing. So I think our officers will be able to figure out 00:17:58
who's who pretty quick and deal with it. So it's not individuals. There's whole groups of people doing this. I don't know. 00:18:06
They've is actually. We posted the other day, maybe about a week or two ago that we caught one person and he was by himself. 00:18:16
And the interesting thing that kind of caught people's attention is it wasn't a kid. 00:18:23
I know 37 year old person I think is what it was. 00:18:28
So, so that caught some attention. People were kind of talking about that on Facebook. 00:18:33
So we caught one person where we documented their art style. I guess you can say. So we still got a couple more to catch though. 00:18:37
I'd like to make a suggestion which is currently. 00:18:49
If it's on private property. 00:18:54
They're not The owners are notified to fix it and if it's on public property the city takes care of it and the city has been 00:18:56
really great. I mean they're they're the the only problem I've had is that go away name app isn't working for me right now but 00:19:02
they respond to it really quickly. My suggestion would be when it's in private property and and it's. 00:19:09
Pronounced that the city go in and paint over it. 00:19:17
Don't worry about the color. Let's just get rid of it and then ask the home F the owners to. 00:19:21
Match the paint. 00:19:27
And at least in Surfside Village, if we're aware of it, we'll take care of it right away. But that's not always the case. 00:19:29
We can take a look at it. It's funny we were talking today because there's some liability issues and things we have to work 00:19:36
through for that. And so they we were saying we want to have some. 00:19:40
Solution to it. 00:19:46
So we the idea we were coming up with that we were actually going to meet with finance in the next couple weeks and try to get in 00:19:47
the budget. 00:19:50
Was actually creating some funding to do the graffiti removal kits that we could provide to people. 00:19:54
And so we were going to try to do that as a first step. 00:20:00
So we are. We've literally had that conversation at about 10:00 this morning. So we're trying to come up with ideas. So we'll 00:20:03
explore all of those things. Can I ask, is this going on on the other end of the city or is it just at the beach right now or no, 00:20:07
it's. 00:20:11
It's been more at at the beach, at bubbling bubbling springs, path, the corridor. 00:20:16
You know, it's little things pop up here and there, but it's there. And then the drain, the Channel Islands, the storm drain, it's 00:20:25
just back too. We had just done that cleanup event where we covered it and. 00:20:30
It was clear for a couple of months and then it's just been back with the vengeance lately. So I would say those seem to be the 00:20:35
two areas where we're seeing like an abnormal amount of activity. 00:20:40
Bubbling springs. 00:20:45
And the storm drains, So we're talking to the chief and Police Department about trying to. 00:20:47
Get some patrols and things like that going out there. This is something I think the public would join in and volunteer to fix if 00:20:52
we had. 00:20:56
Events and stuff and and like the, the. 00:21:02
The waterway. 00:21:06
It's I thought about going in and painting that stuff over. It's hard to get into and if we had something where where we could. 00:21:09
On the Saturday call. 00:21:15
Tell people that I'm sure you get yeah, I'll show up. I've heard a lot of people would Yeah, we may. We probably will look at 00:21:16
doing that. The storm drains are their county drains, which came up. 00:21:21
As a hot topic when the storms hit. 00:21:27
But their county drains, so even for us we typically have to coordinate access through them. 00:21:30
But we did the cleanup last year or you know, maybe what was it 6 months ago or so? 00:21:34
And that was great because we worked with the Super County supervisors office and they showed up, the city showed up and some 00:21:41
volunteers showed up and we got it taken care of. So it might be time to coordinate another one of those. 00:21:46
I appreciate everything that's been done. I mean, I'm actually flabbergasted you caught somebody, so. 00:21:52
The other part of this is I understand the cameras aren't working at the beach or in. 00:21:59
Miranda Park. That might be another way we can start rounding people up. I'm looking into the Miranda Park. 00:22:06
Issue the the beach, we have the one that. 00:22:13
Looks at the pier and that is working good, but the Miranda Park ones, I'm trying to find out what the status is, so we'll follow 00:22:16
up on that too. 00:22:20
Now are those aimed at the at the tennis and pickleball courts? That's what I'm trying to find out. I I had gotten access to the 00:22:26
beach ones, like I personally have access to the beach ones because when we had the storms and we had to close the beach a few 00:22:31
times because the high tide and everything. 00:22:37
I hadn't gotten access to the Miranda Park ones, but this week with the graffiti picking up, I've asked to start getting access to 00:22:44
those. So. 00:22:47
So we'll get more information on that that we can share. 00:22:52
And those artists that are found. 00:22:56
Amusing. 00:23:01
Their campuses under their campuses. 00:23:04
Hopefully the. 00:23:09
A judge, whoever reprimands them, will. 00:23:11
Give them the opportunity to be part of the cleanup crew, some community service. 00:23:14
But some of these people really are artists, and they could be. 00:23:21
Used constructively, we could have some beautiful murals and stuff around. 00:23:26
The next slide, which is the last. 00:23:36
Category are the. 00:23:40
Other Parks and Recreation. 00:23:51
So for this category, we have the recreation coordinator included one full-time equivalent position. 00:23:53
The Recreation and Ocean Safety Supervisor. 00:24:01
One position. 00:24:08
And then we have the special events like the Touch of truck, the Santa Float, Halloween and all the events that are. 00:24:10
Recreation IS is managing and they have quite a quite a lot going on, so we have $56,000 in the budget for that. 00:24:18
$20,000 to replace or to buy museum furniture and other supplies. 00:24:26
The recreation vehicles is 5400. 00:24:34
Then the. 00:24:38
Contract with the Boys and Girls Club for the gym is 17,500. 00:24:41
The senior exercise program is 8100. 00:24:46
And then the junior lifeguard. Those are the program expenses, the 7500 for their trips. 00:24:51
And 25,000 for the portable restroom at the beach. 00:24:58
So that's $381,000 and then third the last one is. 00:25:04
For the lifeguard program. 00:25:11
Yes, Beachboro restroom. Before we move on from the parks in Iraq, I have a couple of comments. 00:25:12
The junior I was in, the junior lifeguards as a kid. It changed my life, literally. It was a much more intense program than we 00:25:20
have now, but. 00:25:23
All my grandkids have been in it. I think this saves lives in the long run. People get beat safe. 00:25:26
Unfortunately, there's a lot of kids who can't afford to do it, and I'm wondering if we can find a way when my recommendations 00:25:33
would be to give some scholarships to low income kids. 00:25:37
And then the. 00:25:42
What dovetails with this is there's an alarming amount of young people who can't swim now. 00:25:44
Which when I was a kid, everybody swam there. I mean, it's like 3050% or something. It's really high. 00:25:49
So I'm wondering if you know some sort of learn to swim program could be set up at Wayne ME High School or? 00:25:56
Or something. I mean it seems those are those are small investments with a big payoff. 00:26:03
Make people water safe. 00:26:09
Especially in the beach community where? 00:26:11
If you don't understand what a grip tight is. 00:26:14
How to read How to read the surf you. 00:26:18
Could end up in trouble pretty quickly if you learn that as a kid you never forget it. 00:26:21
You would think the Boys and Girls Club would jump on something like that. 00:26:28
I know they did offer a wholesaling program for free, which was. 00:26:35
The grandkids took advantage of, which is really nice. 00:26:38
But that's kind of a luxury. 00:26:43
Yeah, sailing that's different to. 00:26:47
Yeah, exactly. 00:26:52
I mean at this point can't sail so. 00:26:54
I was checking my notes because we actually the rec team, just had a meeting. 00:26:57
This week on the junior lifeguard program, and I actually thought, but I'm not seeing it in those I thought that they were 00:27:03
actually looking at. 00:27:05
This year including a Learn to Swim program. 00:27:09
So it's not in the just the short note that they sent me, but we can. 00:27:12
Find out if it is and. 00:27:18
Get that information because we have the learn to swim. 00:27:21
Lifeguard for the pool lifeguard. So I think, I think they are doing it this year. That's a position that. 00:27:26
Yeah, that I proposed to replace the facilities property maintenance. So they are hiring because actually I just saw the. 00:27:34
The hiring memo? Go out for it. 00:27:41
Yeah, but the idea of the. 00:27:47
It's not unusual to have a program where maybe you know to start something like $5000 for recreation. 00:27:50
Scholarships, and that's not something that's. 00:27:59
Unusual. 00:28:02
Recreation programs. The recreation programs around us have similar programs, so that'd be something that. 00:28:05
That could be recommended and then we can kind of start with a year one and then. 00:28:10
You know, if there's a big demand for it, look to increase that in the future as needed. 00:28:16
And what are the recreational vehicles? 00:28:24
Those are the the cost for the lease. 00:28:28
The leases for their their vehicles. OK, so the Rec so Parks and Recs has. 00:28:31
Separate trucks from from streets and maintenance, yes, we lease all of the vehicles or most of the vehicles I should say we 00:28:36
started a lease program. So any vehicles that we owned that are still. 00:28:42
In operation are still in operation owned by the city but we're leasing the vehicles now so and they're separated by each 00:28:48
department. Yes, there's like a lifeguard truck and then there's just there's a more of like a just like a. 00:28:55
Vehicle for use by the recreation team for when they're doing events and things like that. 00:29:03
And what's going on with the museum? 00:29:11
What? What? What? Did they get flooded? They got flooded, right? They were actually, thankfully, every other building we have did, 00:29:15
and somehow the museum, which is the one I probably would have put money on. 00:29:20
Would have been the one to flood. Didn't get flooded, but it was actually just my bad timing and my bad luck was that I had just 00:29:26
said let's. 00:29:30
Like clear it out, paint it, you know, clean it up and everything. And then literally I think the week we were doing at the storm 00:29:35
hit. And so I think it looked like it was like a storm impact, you know? 00:29:41
But we have a museum committee right now, and they're working actively, they actually. 00:29:47
Have some events coming up where they're. 00:29:53
Working to come in and start cleaning up and they took all the materials because there was just there was a lot in that museum, it 00:29:57
was full. 00:30:01
And they took everything, took it out, put it into storage where we're cleaning it up, and then they're going to start going 00:30:05
through it and deciding what goes back into the museum. 00:30:09
We do have a member who's on the museum committee, so I don't know if you have anything you want to add to that or if that's 00:30:14
accurate. 00:30:17
Very accurate. Anyway, yes, I am on the museum committee and we're working really hard to get it open again. 00:30:22
But there's some restraints that we have just on the physical facility. So we're trying to make that happen sooner than better. 00:30:28
Our city manager came and gave us a presentation about four months ago. 00:30:37
About an issue that we thought was a concern. 00:30:43
Our bathrooms are not a compliant. 00:30:46
88 compliant. 00:30:50
And but we've come up with, we think a solution for that. We're just going to upgrade the present bathroom that we have. 00:30:52
And not in a big way. 00:30:59
And then you know. 00:31:02
A Porta Potty. 00:31:04
That's ADA compliant. 00:31:06
And we think we'll meet all the standards and keep the cost down, I think. 00:31:11
I think it's I saw something from Charles, our assistant city manager. I think that's his title. 00:31:16
$4000. 00:31:23
For one of those units, and then. 00:31:24
I think it's $300.00 a month for upkeep. 00:31:27
So that's that part, but we're trying to get it because we're afraid that our children in our schools. 00:31:32
They're not being educated about our history, so we're trying to get it open as fast as we can. 00:31:39
So we've come up with a plan to go to the schools. 00:31:45
But we hope to. 00:31:49
By June time, maybe May June time frame to have a. 00:31:52
Somewhat some presentation. 00:31:56
Some material for people to come in and see in the museum. 00:32:01
So we have our fingers crossed. 00:32:05
It's been a long time. 00:32:08
Yeah, good progress in the last few months. I think it's, it looks really good in there. The $20,000 is important and we were. 00:32:09
Recommending it because. 00:32:19
Even just things like buying new cases for the exhibits and things like that. Everything in there was. 00:32:21
Was very, very, yeah. It wasn't the greatest. So we're trying to kind of start fresh and use the opportunity to start fresh. It 00:32:28
looked like a class that people just threw stuff in. And so we're spending a lot of time right now. 00:32:34
Actually inventorying all the material. 00:32:41
And trying to determine what is really museum material. 00:32:44
Because some of it's just. 00:32:48
People's. I won't use the word junk, but. 00:32:51
Material that people are dropped off. 00:32:55
And of course, we don't want to throw it away. We're going to try and get it back to its original owners if we can. 00:32:57
And so we've been fortunate in having a. 00:33:03
A couple of members who serve on other museums. 00:33:06
And are educating us on. 00:33:09
I'm being very careful with what we do with material that we have. 00:33:12
So we getting there? Promise? 00:33:17
And and I would have to say. 00:33:20
That at first I did not enjoy being on that committee, but. 00:33:22
The committee has started becoming more cohesive. 00:33:27
And it has made a big difference. 00:33:30
I think everybody on the committee actually likes another now. 00:33:33
Before I got the feeling there was contention. 00:33:37
Not sure what it was as well. I guess every committee goes through that, but. 00:33:40
I don't think that exists anymore. 00:33:44
Alrighty. So the last one, that line item where it says implementation labor for new enterprise resource software should not be 00:33:53
there, I apologize. That's. 00:33:58
There's no there are no dollars associated with. 00:34:04
So the $30,000 is the enterprise software that we're implementing. We're in the last. 00:34:07
Getting close to the last faces. This is specific to utility billing. 00:34:14
Which is going to impact our residents. 00:34:18
Enhance their ability to generate their bills online and be able to have more details on the billing statements that will provide. 00:34:21
History on usage. 00:34:32
Which with our legacy system, it's not easy to to do right now. So that's the $30,000. 00:34:35
For that I can ask a question. Is it possible for the city to go to? 00:34:44
An electronic web-based. 00:34:51
Billing system to eliminate the paper we. 00:34:54
Yeah, I like getting paper stuff, but this isn't a bill that. 00:34:57
Well, yeah, that's what we're targeting to do. When we roll the system, we're going to be sending out information to all of the 00:35:02
customers and. 00:35:06
Hopefully. 00:35:10
We want to get as many customers, residents enrolled in Just Auto Pay so that we don't have to. Or you can log in and in our log, 00:35:12
yeah. 00:35:17
Yeah, pay your other utilities. 00:35:22
The other thing I've brought this up to the water committee, whatever. But. 00:35:26
Replacement Camarillo and they have a system where you can see exactly how much water you're using. 00:35:30
Down to the minute. 00:35:37
OK. It's been extremely helpful in controlling. 00:35:38
If you have a leak, you can see it if they warn you. 00:35:44
I mean it's it's saved me a lot of money and I've saved an enormous amount of water through this. 00:35:47
It must be cell based because. 00:35:53
They have a little monitor on the that watches the meter. 00:35:55
I don't know if there's something. 00:35:59
That's something I'd like us to think about. In the long run, it would save a lot of money, a lot of water. 00:36:01
This city of literally will alert you if I it's a it's a half acre and it's got probably 40 sprinkler valves. One of them starts 00:36:07
leaking. 00:36:11
I check it every day I see it instead of losing hundreds or thousands of gallons of water, which sometimes just go away and you 00:36:16
don't even know where it went, so. 00:36:20
I think that's something that we will, we're going to look at with the water our water manager to I think they might probably have 00:36:25
smart meters, which we don't right now. We still do the manual reading. 00:36:31
So that's the next long term plan for the city to start looking at that. 00:36:37
The water department, they they did go to the new SCADA system. 00:36:43
And it's it's pretty cool over in our public works building they have a TV where they can monitor their system and see and it 00:36:49
starts to flash in areas if there's any problems and everything so. 00:36:54
We've gone to that and then the next thing is the smart meters for. 00:37:00
For residents, that's the next thing that we're looking. I think you probably just charge the users for that. The good news is we 00:37:04
probably wouldn't impact measure you at all because we should be able to charge it to users, but it it blew my mind. 00:37:10
Because I remember. 00:37:17
I used to see the meter readers on the scooters going down the street and then I was gone for like 5 years and I assumed they were 00:37:20
that they hadn't disappeared in that time. And the other day I saw them scooting by and I was like, oh, they're still here. So I 00:37:25
think it's time to start looking at the smart meters. 00:37:30
OK. 00:37:36
So this is just the last light is just a recap of the total revenue that we're projecting at the 3.6 million and then. 00:37:39
The expenses projected at 3.6 million as well and again it's a budget. 00:37:48
When we get the revenue projections from HDL, if those change will be adjusting that. If they go down, we'll have to adjust some 00:37:56
of the expenditures. 00:38:00
And then if they go up, you know we have to revisit the expenses and again we're going to be revisiting the the budget. 00:38:06
With the department. So if anything, like I said, the one that comes to mind is all we talked about for graffiti we made. 00:38:13
Bump that up a little bit. 00:38:19
Um, but this is what we are. 00:38:21
Planning to present to. 00:38:25
Council for Measure U. 00:38:27
I would like to recommend that we try to under spend a little bit and get a bit of a cushion going. 00:38:30
You know, it turned out to be really helpful because the bubbling springs. 00:38:36
And that happened. Kind of a mistake, maybe, but I'm glad it was there. We figured it out. It'd be kind of nice if we could. 00:38:41
Spend a little less than we're bringing in to keep some for a rainy day because I'm. 00:38:50
Sure, we're going to need it at some point. 00:38:54
Are there any limitations, David, that we have to turn this around every year? 00:38:59
And take it to 0 or can we have a reserve? 00:39:05
Oh yeah, we just had a $1.7 million surplus, so. 00:39:08
Yes, we can. 00:39:12
I think the. 00:39:15
The challenge we'd have to work through, I think is. 00:39:16
Accounting for measure U. 00:39:20
We expect to have kind of a balanced budget essentially. 00:39:23
And so if we save money for measure U, then we don't have a balance, we goes back into the unassigned. So if we didn't spend it 00:39:26
all, then we would have almost the same challenge that we did with the 1.7. So with every year we have a residual, if you will, 00:39:32
but then it's getting swept into the. 00:39:37
Because this general fund revenue, so it doesn't go into any reserve, it's just it's not restricted. 00:39:43
It would just go into the general fund, so it just goes into the checking account, if you will. 00:39:49
So we're targeting. 00:39:54
To to balance it every year. So we ended up setting up kind of a special account for the surplus we had before. 00:39:57
Can we do that? 00:40:06
I think at the end of the year, because this is a budget, so I would say. 00:40:10
We're this is a budget and then we're going to have actuals, right. So at the end of the year if we. 00:40:14
End up with a surplus and Measure U that could be transferred to the reserve for capital for Measure U capital projects that think 00:40:19
that we could the committee could make that determination at the end of the fiscal year based on actual. 00:40:25
You know at some point the peers going to not get knocked down again and we're going to need some. 00:40:33
OK. So there is a couple of things that we had talked about. 00:40:40
Removing like the there's $50,000 from one of the line items that was double counted you had mentioned I think, right. So there's 00:40:44
a couple of those areas. So if we remove those, there would start, there would be some. 00:40:50
Yeah. So the two line items that I proposed we $30,000 for the, yeah, $30,000 for the Facilities Property Maintenance. 00:40:59
But I was going to replace that with a full lifeguard that learn to swim program pool lifeguard. 00:41:10
And then the other one was the 50% of the crossing guards because we get reimbursed. So that's 47,500 and I was going to replace 00:41:15
that or I'm proposing to replace it with the Whitening Beach Festival expenses. 00:41:23
So I guess, I guess there's the question. It's would we want to? 00:41:33
Include the Wine Amy Beach Festival expenses as part of Measure You or we rather Say No and. 00:41:37
And have savings of. 00:41:42
$77,000 I'd rather say no. 00:41:44
That's something we would vote on or not. That's up to the committee. And then if that's done, then yeah, then we can look at kind 00:41:48
of at the end of the year. 00:41:52
When all the numbers come in, in their final and assuming we do have that gap and that you know something didn't happen where the 00:41:57
revenues came in lower than expected or something, then we could look at how we. 00:42:02
At putting that into a separate fund. 00:42:08
But so that would that would probably be part of any motion from the committee. 00:42:11
OK, so if there are? 00:42:21
No further questions. I think we're ready to. 00:42:24
We were going to vote to accept this. 00:42:28
Can I have a motion? 00:42:32
We're going to vote to. 00:42:34
And again change. 00:42:36
The Facilities maintenance. 00:42:39
The Facilities Property Maintenance $30,000 and replace that with the pool. 00:42:45
Lifeguard Learn to Swim program. 00:42:51
Right. And then we're going to remove. 00:42:53
Completely. 00:42:56
Is that what we're? 00:42:58
Reduce the $95,000 that we have for lifeguard, crossing lifeguards and crossing guards, I'm sorry, instead of 95,000 is 47,500 and 00:43:01
then we're going to let the difference just flow through. So there will be excess revenues. 00:43:08
Over expenditures. 00:43:17
I make a motion that we. 00:43:19
Vote for that. 00:43:21
Do we have a second? 00:43:23
Second, do you need to make a roll call or? 00:43:25
All in favor. 00:43:32
Aye. 00:43:33
Motion passes unanimously. 00:43:36
OK, we're on to the transition and use. 00:43:40
Tax Citizens Oversight Committee Draft report to the Council. 00:43:43
I reviewed this and it doesn't cover why we haven't met really for a long time. So I've. 00:43:49
Proposed that put these thoughts down. 00:43:55
At the end of it, I basically said recommended that we. 00:43:59
Delete a couple things in the. 00:44:04
Report that we got and replace them with the stuff in this. 00:44:08
Report. 00:44:15
Since nobody had a chance to read this before today, I don't. 00:44:17
I don't know whether you had it just to think it over or would like to make. 00:44:20
Corrections or differences in it or? 00:44:23
Want to just accept the staff report? 00:44:26
Talk about that. 00:44:30
I was able to review it. I'm sorry, I was cheating. 00:44:32
During the meeting, I wasn't given all full attention. 00:44:35
And also I would just say with David's background, he has lived this since November of 2018. 00:44:38
He's been her one sole person. 00:44:46
I don't even think our clerk has. 00:44:50
And supporting this committee since 2018. 00:44:54
So, and I I just vouch for David. He's a good, honest guy. 00:44:57
You would not give us propaganda. 00:45:02
OK. 00:45:05
No, I keep it. I keep a close eye on you. 00:45:09
So I I think we should. 00:45:13
I'd like to make a motion that we accept this if if we later on some of you read this and find out it's not exactly everything we 00:45:20
can always amend or correct, but I'd love to get this into our record and into our files. 00:45:25
That's my motion. 00:45:34
Any other thoughts Can I? I just want to clarify what we're removing just to make sure that I let the second page of the handout. 00:45:37
So on the first page, we're removing paragraphs 1. 00:45:46
3:00 and 4:00. 00:45:54
So we're leaving in, so we add the scope of duties from. 00:45:56
The draft letter in the packet to the letter provided by. 00:46:01
Chairman. 00:46:06
And then I think that was. 00:46:09
It right? 00:46:12
Routine paragraph two and Page 1, paragraphs 2 and three on page 2. 00:46:14
And then add this in. 00:46:21
So. 00:46:24
If you give me the copy that I can. 00:46:28
Change. I can do the changes myself and resubmit it. I don't know how we want to go ahead with this. Yeah, if the committee 00:46:33
approves it will, we will take it, put it together and then we'll send it to you just to confirm it was the way it was intended so 00:46:38
that could work. And just to speak to the point. 00:46:44
So I think it makes sense. 00:46:50
We work together on the letter. 00:46:53
And since we weren't. 00:46:55
Involved prior, we didn't really want to speak for what happened in the past. So I think your letter just as a you were here, so 00:46:57
you can speak to that. So I think I think it makes sense. So on that note. 00:47:04
Luckily, as we're taking a look at this, nobody. 00:47:11
Who's currently serving in anything that I can see was ever here, even back to 2018, The council's all switched over, the staff 00:47:14
has switched over. 00:47:18
And so some of the. 00:47:23
I'll call them transgressions or done by people before. 00:47:25
You guys all got here, so yeah. 00:47:30
And they did want to really do a shout out to Tony Stewart because. 00:47:33
He he He did. 00:47:36
I contacted him and he just acted quickly and we got started, which is. 00:47:38
I was quite happy with after three years of trying to harangue everybody into doing something. Yeah, that's great. I want him to 00:47:42
get credit for it. 00:47:46
Let's hope. I was hoping to get that credit, but. 00:47:51
OK. So I will make the changes and then I'll send it back to the committee. 00:47:59
Think we make the changes, Send it to Chair Scrivener. Just make sure it is the way it was intended. 00:48:08
And then ultimately, I guess the next question would be, so then it would go to the Council for presentation and I think the 00:48:13
understanding was that the committee would want to nominate. So that was the next question. Does the committee want to nominate a 00:48:18
member to present it to council? 00:48:23
I would recommend David. 00:48:30
I second that. 00:48:33
He has the blood, sweat and tears. 00:48:35
I think we should all be there for it. 00:48:39
And stand up. I mean, I'm willing to do the lead on it, but you know we're all this is a committee, it's not me, so. 00:48:41
Should be there in. 00:48:49
That work? 00:48:51
We don't need a motion for that. I think he doesn't want all the blame. 00:48:53
That works and it probably would be probably. I think we're looking at a date in May. 00:49:00
I think it was. 00:49:06
I'm trying to remember we had our kind of tentative schedule. I think we were looking at a date in May where we would do it. So 00:49:08
we'll get that date to everybody and see if it works. We have a little bit of flexibility before the budget. I won't be here for 00:49:12
most of May, but if I am, I will be here. 00:49:16
I do want to say that I really appreciate what you guys have brought to the table here. This is a real difference from what we had 00:49:21
before. It's transparent, you're open, you have good ideas, you're flexible. So. 00:49:27
I really appreciate your support. Yeah give great information and feedback and thanks for doing because we look at how would I 00:49:33
written if there's anything that you it is you know think shouldn't go in there you know just get a hold of me and. 00:49:39
That's what I'll do, then I'll send it to you and then you can look at it and I'll send you the dates. 00:49:47
The it's either the last one in April or the first one in May, things I can't remember exactly, but those are the two dates that. 00:49:52
We were thinking only because. 00:49:59
We want to take the final budget to Council, the last meeting of May, so we would like for the committee to. 00:50:01
I guess it's not doesn't matter, but those are the two dates, so I'll send you the dates and then it's working out nicely. Because 00:50:07
our thought was basically it's like we can put a. 00:50:11
Button on this and then start our new budget year fresh with you know and we did today was sort of a big accomplishment that we 00:50:16
kind of all brushed under the rug but it was the first time we were looking ahead. You know every other meeting has been looking 00:50:22
behind. So it's like we want to kind of that to be the. 00:50:27
The way it works moving forward so. 00:50:33
I feel like the city's really turned a corner and we're. 00:50:36
Thanks for looking up. I mean, thank you. 00:50:38
As long as you don't get it, a tsunami, it's going to say, I feel like every time we think that we have more rain and I know 00:50:41
there's more Saturday, so. 00:50:44
We need to adjourn the meeting. 00:50:57
Draft report. 00:51:00
And do we have any? Is there anything else we need to do here? 00:51:04
I think that's it. I think we're good, but we have I guess we we had a motion and a second so. 00:51:09
All in favor. 00:51:16
Aye. 00:51:19
Is there any other business anybody else like to bring up before we? 00:51:30
I get to use this. 00:51:34
Just to comment, there was discussion about water meters. 00:51:37
Some of the Hoas I know this is not the issue here. Some of the Hoas have just one big huge. 00:51:41
Water main coming in. I understand that they. 00:51:49
City went in and put some meters on those. They just used to give us water, unquestionably. 00:51:52
And I don't know when they made that change, but. 00:51:59
That becomes a real burden right now for HOA's because many of them are on 1m. 00:52:02
And so it's it makes. 00:52:09
Has a tendency to allow people to wastewater. 00:52:12
And I know it's not our responsibility to equip the Hoas accordingly, but they're never going to spend that money. 00:52:16
And we're going to get nailed over all as a city for water usage if we don't pay attention to it. So I don't know how, how. 00:52:25
We impose as a city. 00:52:32
Or help out and. 00:52:35
Maybe give some fundings to HOA so they can. 00:52:37
Set up meters accordingly. A little differently, but that's. 00:52:40
I I don't even know if we'll be able to have golf courses in the future with some of the restrictions. 00:52:45
On water, it's going to get tougher than that. The the latest new law we're hearing that's coming is not, not even like, you know, 00:52:51
at one point it was sort of like the luxuries like golf courses that might go away and now they're literally talking about like 00:52:58
grass in medians and right of ways just little strips of grass are going to have to go away. 00:53:05
And so there's a. 00:53:12
A lot of change coming in that world that we have to prepare for and we're gonna have to change some landscaping and things like 00:53:14
that too, so. 00:53:18
It's going to be a bigger impact and then. 00:53:23
Not to go on a rant, and I'm probably getting close to like, not being on the agenda, but. 00:53:26
Let them every time we stop or every time we reduce our water usage. 00:53:31
We end up having to pay more for water. 00:53:36
Because we're selling less water and we're and so then the cost of each gallon of water costs more and the maintenance and all 00:53:39
that. 00:53:42
So it's this cycle that. 00:53:47
A lot of the water agencies are trying to figure out where. 00:53:50
People stop using water and it makes everything more expensive and then your new quota gets dropped and you know, it's just, it's 00:53:54
the constant battle, so. 00:53:58
So we're working on that. We actually just submitted a letter opposing some of the rate increases from the people we buy water 00:54:03
from from 17% rate increase that they're trying to impose right now. 00:54:08
So we're opposing that because then if they pass it, we have to figure out then how to pass that on, so. 00:54:13
So there's the water world as a whole other animal. 00:54:19
How often do they do that? I mean, how often do you have to renegotiate? 00:54:24
They, they pretty much, they have usually there's like an opportunity to pass on like a rate increase every year basically and 00:54:27
they. 00:54:32
You know, if they pass on something like inflation level then that's usually one thing, but this year? 00:54:38
Metropolitan water is the main one and that's one that a lot of us get our water, water from and they're they're proposing a 17% 00:54:44
increase so. 00:54:48
Is that like across the county or just it's everybody who gets water from them, which includes for example us in Oxnard? 00:54:54
Definitely get water from them. And then I think there's three or four other cities that do and then there's a couple of cities 00:55:02
that don't that are kind of. 00:55:06
You know, Ohio is an example that is up by themselves and they get their water from their groundwater instead of from 00:55:11
metropolitan, but. 00:55:14
Most of the most of us, like in the Oxnard Plain area, we enter some water at least for metropolitan OK, yeah. 00:55:18
That's reality, I mean. 00:55:28
More and more people, and more and more concrete and less and less rain. 00:55:30
Well, my question again was. 00:55:37
You know if the city can look at find a way to subsidize. 00:55:39
And regulators in such a way, but right now. 00:55:43
I would have to say that we're using more water than others, so we're. 00:55:46
Keeping your costs down. 00:55:50
We'll talk to the water. 00:55:54
Division on that, I think. 00:55:56
I like to say a lot that we can't be the first city in the world that had to figure out how to help Hoas with their water systems, 00:55:59
you know. So we'll follow up on that. We'll look into into it. Thank you. Yeah. Thank you. 00:56:05
On that note, let's join the meeting and the time is. 00:56:13
601. 00:56:18
Thank you. 00:56:22
Our next meeting is scheduled for July 24th. 00:56:24
At 5:00 PM. 00:56:28
But we'll see everybody at council before that. 00:56:30
Thank you and you'll send out notifications and when you get a date for that, OK? 00:56:34
When we send out the report, we'll make sure we. 00:56:39
The two dates. 00:56:43
Flexibility. 00:56:46
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Transcript

Like to call the meeting to order. Welcome to the transaction, transaction and use tax. 00:00:10
Citizens Oversight Committee Meeting. I'm calling the meeting to order and the time is? 00:00:16
5:05 PM. 00:00:24
Madam Clerk planning to take the role. 00:00:27
Here. 00:00:34
Here member Williams. 00:00:38
Here here. 00:00:40
We don't seem to have anybody here for public comments, so. 00:00:46
That's and we have no presentation, so let's. 00:00:50
Skip ahead to the consent calendar. 00:00:53
We will now consider items on the consent calendar, which will be enacted in one motion. 00:00:56
Unless there is request remove. 00:01:01
An item for discussion. 00:01:03
Does anybody have? 00:01:05
And then if you like to discuss. 00:01:08
In the consent calendar. 00:01:10
No, I I've reviewed them. They look correct. 00:01:15
Excuse me, I said. I had reviewed them. They looked fine to me, So. 00:01:19
All in favor. 00:01:25
Aye, aye. 00:01:27
Motion is passed. 00:01:30
OK. Business items. 00:01:35
Measure youth transaction and use Tax Fiscal Year report. 00:01:38
2024 through 2025 Proposed Budget report. 00:01:43
Will staff please present the report? 00:01:48
Good afternoon, I. 00:01:53
Measure your reset, committee members. 00:01:55
We had discussed at the last meeting that we will be presenting the proposed budget for Measure U for fiscal year 2425 and that is 00:01:58
the information that you have in your packages and then I'm going to go over the highlights. 00:02:06
Basically covering that information a little bit more detail this first slide, I just wanted to share the little bit of the 00:02:14
history in the last four fiscal years. 00:02:19
Of what the measure you revenue has generated? 00:02:25
You can see that in fiscal year 2122. 00:02:29
It was just just a little bit over $3,000,000. 00:02:33
And 2223 had a pretty significant growth of 343,000. 00:02:38
Or 11.2%. 00:02:44
In fiscal year 2324, we're expecting, we haven't closed out the year, but the the projection is almost 3.63.589. 00:02:47
And you can see the growth is 178,394. 00:02:58
And then the projection for 20/24/25 is 3.6 million, a growth of 42,000 or 1.2%. And really what I wanted to point out here is 00:03:02
that you can see that it's pretty much, we had pretty significant growth increases of 11% and it's just starting to level off. 00:03:11
And HDL, who's our consultant who provides us with these estimates. 00:03:21
Gives us some, you know, a lot background on the economy and what's going on. We have our next meeting with them early April, so 00:03:27
we'll. 00:03:31
Get more numbers and and find out if this 3.6 number is going to change. 00:03:35
But what they are seeing is just consumer spending is starting to slow down and I think that's the reason that you see that 00:03:42
measure you. 00:03:46
Increases are starting to level off. 00:03:50
But again, we're for this purpose of today's meeting and for the budget, the number that we are projecting is the three-point. 00:03:54
$6 million. 00:04:03
And then I just broke out the. 00:04:05
Expenses that. 00:04:08
Our projected budget expenses that will be supported by Measure U. 00:04:13
By different categories. So for public safety, we're looking at 1,000,007. 00:04:18
Which is composed of all the detail that you see here in front of you. So we have a couple of police. 00:04:24
Officer positions that one Sergeant position. 00:04:33
Of two police officers senior positions. 00:04:37
50% of 1 police officer. 00:04:42
Police communication officer dispatch 3 full time positions. 00:04:45
The cat system. 00:04:52
That was in the budget last year, but we started at this fiscal year. I'm sorry. 00:04:54
And this integrated virtual response software is scheduled to be completed next fiscal year and our we're projecting to spend 00:05:01
$170,000. 00:05:06
And 20 fiscal year 25. 00:05:11
And then there are various equipment like radar, guns, vest replacements. 00:05:14
Crime scene tape, evidence bags and other equipment that in total we have in the budget $87,000. 00:05:21
To purchase that equipment. 00:05:30
The homeless voucher program we have in the budget currently $10,000. 00:05:34
Um. In the past, we've spent about 6000. In fiscal year 23, we spent $10,000 buying vouchers. 00:05:41
At the for the actually, Chief Salinas purchase vouchers for the Holiday Inn for homeless. 00:05:50
The next line item we have $38,000 for investigation and evidence safety supplies. 00:05:58
In software like the Flock cameras. 00:06:08
And what are flock cameras? 00:06:13
What are the flock cameras? 00:06:16
What are the camera? The flock cameras? Are those one by officers or the? 00:06:20
I I have to get back to you on that one because I asked for a lot of the detail, but I didn't ask about specifics. So this is the 00:06:26
budget we're getting it from what? 00:06:30
PD Provided when we generated the two year budget. 00:06:35
Two years ago. 00:06:39
But let me. 00:06:41
I'll note that one and I'll get back to you. 00:06:42
Umm. 00:06:45
There's $40,000 in the current budget right now for firearms and weapons. 00:06:48
And then I just want to point out, for crossing guards, we pay all city management. 00:06:55
For the cross guards and the amount continues to go up every every year. 00:07:02
The current contract is up to $95,000. 00:07:09
However, I do have to point out that we also bill the district for 50% of that, so I'm going to be reducing that amount by half. 00:07:13
And I have. 00:07:23
A proposed replacement, if you will, for this. 00:07:27
And that is an item that's going to go to council on Tuesday to support the Waianae Beach Festival. 00:07:31
Where the city is proposing to donate $35,000 to the beach festival. 00:07:38
And also. 00:07:44
The Explorers are going to be managing, if approved, the Beach Festival, so there will be a donation of $25,000 to the Police 00:07:46
Explorers. So that is what I'm proposing to replace that difference because. 00:07:52
This is the full amount, but we are again we get reimbursed 50%. 00:07:58
Uniforms. The next line item is uniform expenses, the reimbursements for our police officers. 00:08:05
And then the vehicles for for PD. 00:08:14
So the total for police, again, we're looking at a million 744. 00:08:18
So that's about close to 50% of the funds then? 00:08:33
48%, I think. 00:08:38
Of the PD budget. Oh that. Oh, that. The sales tax, Yes. And I think that there was a question in the past. 00:08:41
Our police budget for total budget for 2425 is $11.3 million. 00:08:49
Yes. 00:08:57
Can I ask another question? 00:09:00
So when we're. 00:09:03
Back looking at the officers, are these new positions or we're supporting the current positions? These are existing positions. 00:09:04
Any other questions? 00:09:16
So I did Google with a flock cameras. 00:09:18
And it says that. 00:09:22
They're pretty much like license plate readers. 00:09:24
Oh, license plate readers. Yeah. Yeah, those, they're all over the city. Yeah. OK. Thanks. Thank you. 00:09:27
They've been used to catch people installing cars like crazy. 00:09:39
Yeah, it's like. 00:09:43
Good investment. 00:09:46
OK. So the next one is the. 00:09:49
The expenditures related to streets and maintaining the parks and cities, so for that component. 00:09:55
The total streets and maintenance. 00:10:04
Budget for Measure U is 1,000,000 Four $75894. 00:10:07
And we have a maintenance staff, one full time person that maintains the city parks, the pier. 00:10:13
Removing graffiti. 00:10:22
And that's the $79,000 we have. Supplies, equipment, rental, concrete. 00:10:25
That's $86,000. 00:10:33
And St. staff. 00:10:35
2.25. 00:10:38
Full time equivalent. 00:10:40
Maintaining the streets, the alleys, the sidewalks, any public streets. 00:10:42
That's $171,000. 00:10:49
And and then the next line item of 29,000 is any tools and equipment that is needed? 00:10:52
The budget is $29,000 for that. 00:11:02
And then we have the facility streets and landscape vehicles. 00:11:06
At 68,000. 00:11:11
There's a storm drain rehabilitation that needs to be done. 00:11:15
At the Port City Plaza and that's 90 estimated at $95,000. So there's some capital improvement projects in this category. 00:11:19
The next one, which is a big one, is replacing the underground storage tanks. 00:11:29
And that's required by the state and the estimated amount for next fiscal year that is budgeted for is half $1,000,000. 00:11:35
And what this is, is these are the storage tanks that store the fuel and the diesel. 00:11:45
For all of the city vehicles, you know PD Public Works and why it's important? Because. 00:11:52
We are able to access our own fuel versus going out and purchasing you know at the at the fuel stations. 00:11:59
We get a discounted. 00:12:06
And then I think more most importantly, everything is important but also in case of an emergency we're able to, we have priority. 00:12:09
For purchasing fuel. 00:12:17
Yes, it's a nightmare when those tanks start leaking, so you're far better off replacing them way ahead of time. I think they'll 00:12:19
have to be double walled now or something, right? 00:12:23
Yeah, so. 00:12:28
Those line. 00:12:30
I think it would be very important for. 00:12:32
Our city manager to look at when we start looking at doing the switch from. 00:12:35
Gas and diesel to electric. 00:12:42
Since we're a nice small little city that we can meet. 00:12:45
Electric that's just overhead costs that can go away environmentally and better for us, so it's a nice argument to bring up. 00:12:50
When it comes that time. 00:12:58
Then the next line item is improvements to the parking lot at Miranda Park. 00:13:05
35,000. 00:13:11
Citywide all the parking lot improvements at the beach, the library, at the parks. 00:13:13
265,000. 00:13:19
The next one lumps a couple of items that are like facilities, the clothing uniform reimbursement. 00:13:23
UM 7000. 00:13:29
And then the graffiti removal, I think we might even have to increase that based on a conversation we had this morning with our 00:13:32
facilities. 00:13:36
Director that there's a lot of graffiti lately. It's really been so we have right now 15,000 again, that's what we have in the 00:13:41
budget when we generated the two year budget. But I really feel like we probably got to revisit that and maybe double it because I 00:13:48
don't know that 15,000 is enough, you know, to clean everything for the entire year. 00:13:55
The building maintenance. 00:14:07
Small appliances and supplies. That's 89,700. 00:14:10
The facilities property maintenance is $30,000 after I had put this together and we were drilling down and really drilling on to 00:14:15
find out what is in those line items. This is actually facility maintenance for the city owned properties. 00:14:23
So I don't feel that that is related to measure U. 00:14:31
So I'd like to propose that we include one lifeguard. 00:14:36
For the Learn to Swim program, and that's probably about $50,000, so that more than covers that. 00:14:40
So that I'd like to replace that because that. 00:14:46
The the line item that's currently there is not applicable I don't think. 00:14:50
And then small Tools $5000. So that's the total of 1,000,000, four 75. 00:14:56
Yeah. If I could, before we change slides, maybe just give some. 00:15:03
Thought on a couple of these and one is actually to the comment from committee member Vic. 00:15:09
Oddly enough, earlier this week. 00:15:18
We had remembered. 00:15:23
About a year ago, the county was doing an electric vehicle infrastructure grant program with the idea, especially for smaller 00:15:25
cities, that the smaller cities weren't going to be able to do some of the like the Charger installations and things that maybe 00:15:29
larger cities. 00:15:34
Would make more sense. 00:15:39
Just like the value wouldn't be there for smaller cities. 00:15:42
So we actually. 00:15:46
I reached out to the county and asked if we'd still be able to get into that grant opportunity, and we actually found out that we. 00:15:48
Are able to still and so we're probably. 00:15:56
We're working with them right now to potentially apply for upwards of two to $300,000 to start doing some of the electric vehicle 00:15:59
charger infrastructure. 00:16:02
So we are working on that. Hopefully it'll be grant funded and we won't even need to use our our actual city funds on that, so. 00:16:06
That's in process now. 00:16:14
And then just to the point about the graffiti. 00:16:16
We've been hit really bad the last couple of months, particularly even this weekend, something I hadn't seen before, which is 00:16:20
graffiti. 00:16:25
Across the tennis courts and pickleball courts on the actual court surface. 00:16:30
Which is very frustrating. 00:16:34
And so we're doing a couple of things in one on top of having to order some supplies like we have to order special coatings for 00:16:36
the tennis courts and pickleball courts to try to fix that. 00:16:41
But at the same time working with the police chief. 00:16:46
We're looking at having an officer who's going to be more focused on graffiti abatement and doing what? 00:16:50
I think Oxnard may be the only city locally who does this, but they have a dedicated officer and he. 00:16:57
Has he documents all of the graffiti? 00:17:02
And then actually has the ability to when he sees graffiti, he knows. 00:17:06
Like 9 times out of 10, exactly who it was and he can just go right to them. And you know, we know this is your graffiti because 00:17:10
we have it documented. And now this new one popped up. 00:17:15
And it really helps with the the. 00:17:20
The enforcement side of it? 00:17:22
And so we're already starting. 00:17:24
That process with our Police Department to start having our existing officers start doing that and and then as we. 00:17:26
Fill some of the vacant positions we have. We currently have two vacant PD positions then we'll look to have some more time 00:17:33
dedicated to that. So we're we're working on. 00:17:37
Not just buying more paint to cover it, but trying to actually. 00:17:41
Stop it the best we can so he becomes a. 00:17:45
Art critic Pretty much, Pretty much. And right now it does look to me like it's two people from competing territories who seem to 00:17:49
be, I think there's three of them because I keep seeing kind of the same thing. So I think our officers will be able to figure out 00:17:58
who's who pretty quick and deal with it. So it's not individuals. There's whole groups of people doing this. I don't know. 00:18:06
They've is actually. We posted the other day, maybe about a week or two ago that we caught one person and he was by himself. 00:18:16
And the interesting thing that kind of caught people's attention is it wasn't a kid. 00:18:23
I know 37 year old person I think is what it was. 00:18:28
So, so that caught some attention. People were kind of talking about that on Facebook. 00:18:33
So we caught one person where we documented their art style. I guess you can say. So we still got a couple more to catch though. 00:18:37
I'd like to make a suggestion which is currently. 00:18:49
If it's on private property. 00:18:54
They're not The owners are notified to fix it and if it's on public property the city takes care of it and the city has been 00:18:56
really great. I mean they're they're the the only problem I've had is that go away name app isn't working for me right now but 00:19:02
they respond to it really quickly. My suggestion would be when it's in private property and and it's. 00:19:09
Pronounced that the city go in and paint over it. 00:19:17
Don't worry about the color. Let's just get rid of it and then ask the home F the owners to. 00:19:21
Match the paint. 00:19:27
And at least in Surfside Village, if we're aware of it, we'll take care of it right away. But that's not always the case. 00:19:29
We can take a look at it. It's funny we were talking today because there's some liability issues and things we have to work 00:19:36
through for that. And so they we were saying we want to have some. 00:19:40
Solution to it. 00:19:46
So we the idea we were coming up with that we were actually going to meet with finance in the next couple weeks and try to get in 00:19:47
the budget. 00:19:50
Was actually creating some funding to do the graffiti removal kits that we could provide to people. 00:19:54
And so we were going to try to do that as a first step. 00:20:00
So we are. We've literally had that conversation at about 10:00 this morning. So we're trying to come up with ideas. So we'll 00:20:03
explore all of those things. Can I ask, is this going on on the other end of the city or is it just at the beach right now or no, 00:20:07
it's. 00:20:11
It's been more at at the beach, at bubbling bubbling springs, path, the corridor. 00:20:16
You know, it's little things pop up here and there, but it's there. And then the drain, the Channel Islands, the storm drain, it's 00:20:25
just back too. We had just done that cleanup event where we covered it and. 00:20:30
It was clear for a couple of months and then it's just been back with the vengeance lately. So I would say those seem to be the 00:20:35
two areas where we're seeing like an abnormal amount of activity. 00:20:40
Bubbling springs. 00:20:45
And the storm drains, So we're talking to the chief and Police Department about trying to. 00:20:47
Get some patrols and things like that going out there. This is something I think the public would join in and volunteer to fix if 00:20:52
we had. 00:20:56
Events and stuff and and like the, the. 00:21:02
The waterway. 00:21:06
It's I thought about going in and painting that stuff over. It's hard to get into and if we had something where where we could. 00:21:09
On the Saturday call. 00:21:15
Tell people that I'm sure you get yeah, I'll show up. I've heard a lot of people would Yeah, we may. We probably will look at 00:21:16
doing that. The storm drains are their county drains, which came up. 00:21:21
As a hot topic when the storms hit. 00:21:27
But their county drains, so even for us we typically have to coordinate access through them. 00:21:30
But we did the cleanup last year or you know, maybe what was it 6 months ago or so? 00:21:34
And that was great because we worked with the Super County supervisors office and they showed up, the city showed up and some 00:21:41
volunteers showed up and we got it taken care of. So it might be time to coordinate another one of those. 00:21:46
I appreciate everything that's been done. I mean, I'm actually flabbergasted you caught somebody, so. 00:21:52
The other part of this is I understand the cameras aren't working at the beach or in. 00:21:59
Miranda Park. That might be another way we can start rounding people up. I'm looking into the Miranda Park. 00:22:06
Issue the the beach, we have the one that. 00:22:13
Looks at the pier and that is working good, but the Miranda Park ones, I'm trying to find out what the status is, so we'll follow 00:22:16
up on that too. 00:22:20
Now are those aimed at the at the tennis and pickleball courts? That's what I'm trying to find out. I I had gotten access to the 00:22:26
beach ones, like I personally have access to the beach ones because when we had the storms and we had to close the beach a few 00:22:31
times because the high tide and everything. 00:22:37
I hadn't gotten access to the Miranda Park ones, but this week with the graffiti picking up, I've asked to start getting access to 00:22:44
those. So. 00:22:47
So we'll get more information on that that we can share. 00:22:52
And those artists that are found. 00:22:56
Amusing. 00:23:01
Their campuses under their campuses. 00:23:04
Hopefully the. 00:23:09
A judge, whoever reprimands them, will. 00:23:11
Give them the opportunity to be part of the cleanup crew, some community service. 00:23:14
But some of these people really are artists, and they could be. 00:23:21
Used constructively, we could have some beautiful murals and stuff around. 00:23:26
The next slide, which is the last. 00:23:36
Category are the. 00:23:40
Other Parks and Recreation. 00:23:51
So for this category, we have the recreation coordinator included one full-time equivalent position. 00:23:53
The Recreation and Ocean Safety Supervisor. 00:24:01
One position. 00:24:08
And then we have the special events like the Touch of truck, the Santa Float, Halloween and all the events that are. 00:24:10
Recreation IS is managing and they have quite a quite a lot going on, so we have $56,000 in the budget for that. 00:24:18
$20,000 to replace or to buy museum furniture and other supplies. 00:24:26
The recreation vehicles is 5400. 00:24:34
Then the. 00:24:38
Contract with the Boys and Girls Club for the gym is 17,500. 00:24:41
The senior exercise program is 8100. 00:24:46
And then the junior lifeguard. Those are the program expenses, the 7500 for their trips. 00:24:51
And 25,000 for the portable restroom at the beach. 00:24:58
So that's $381,000 and then third the last one is. 00:25:04
For the lifeguard program. 00:25:11
Yes, Beachboro restroom. Before we move on from the parks in Iraq, I have a couple of comments. 00:25:12
The junior I was in, the junior lifeguards as a kid. It changed my life, literally. It was a much more intense program than we 00:25:20
have now, but. 00:25:23
All my grandkids have been in it. I think this saves lives in the long run. People get beat safe. 00:25:26
Unfortunately, there's a lot of kids who can't afford to do it, and I'm wondering if we can find a way when my recommendations 00:25:33
would be to give some scholarships to low income kids. 00:25:37
And then the. 00:25:42
What dovetails with this is there's an alarming amount of young people who can't swim now. 00:25:44
Which when I was a kid, everybody swam there. I mean, it's like 3050% or something. It's really high. 00:25:49
So I'm wondering if you know some sort of learn to swim program could be set up at Wayne ME High School or? 00:25:56
Or something. I mean it seems those are those are small investments with a big payoff. 00:26:03
Make people water safe. 00:26:09
Especially in the beach community where? 00:26:11
If you don't understand what a grip tight is. 00:26:14
How to read How to read the surf you. 00:26:18
Could end up in trouble pretty quickly if you learn that as a kid you never forget it. 00:26:21
You would think the Boys and Girls Club would jump on something like that. 00:26:28
I know they did offer a wholesaling program for free, which was. 00:26:35
The grandkids took advantage of, which is really nice. 00:26:38
But that's kind of a luxury. 00:26:43
Yeah, sailing that's different to. 00:26:47
Yeah, exactly. 00:26:52
I mean at this point can't sail so. 00:26:54
I was checking my notes because we actually the rec team, just had a meeting. 00:26:57
This week on the junior lifeguard program, and I actually thought, but I'm not seeing it in those I thought that they were 00:27:03
actually looking at. 00:27:05
This year including a Learn to Swim program. 00:27:09
So it's not in the just the short note that they sent me, but we can. 00:27:12
Find out if it is and. 00:27:18
Get that information because we have the learn to swim. 00:27:21
Lifeguard for the pool lifeguard. So I think, I think they are doing it this year. That's a position that. 00:27:26
Yeah, that I proposed to replace the facilities property maintenance. So they are hiring because actually I just saw the. 00:27:34
The hiring memo? Go out for it. 00:27:41
Yeah, but the idea of the. 00:27:47
It's not unusual to have a program where maybe you know to start something like $5000 for recreation. 00:27:50
Scholarships, and that's not something that's. 00:27:59
Unusual. 00:28:02
Recreation programs. The recreation programs around us have similar programs, so that'd be something that. 00:28:05
That could be recommended and then we can kind of start with a year one and then. 00:28:10
You know, if there's a big demand for it, look to increase that in the future as needed. 00:28:16
And what are the recreational vehicles? 00:28:24
Those are the the cost for the lease. 00:28:28
The leases for their their vehicles. OK, so the Rec so Parks and Recs has. 00:28:31
Separate trucks from from streets and maintenance, yes, we lease all of the vehicles or most of the vehicles I should say we 00:28:36
started a lease program. So any vehicles that we owned that are still. 00:28:42
In operation are still in operation owned by the city but we're leasing the vehicles now so and they're separated by each 00:28:48
department. Yes, there's like a lifeguard truck and then there's just there's a more of like a just like a. 00:28:55
Vehicle for use by the recreation team for when they're doing events and things like that. 00:29:03
And what's going on with the museum? 00:29:11
What? What? What? Did they get flooded? They got flooded, right? They were actually, thankfully, every other building we have did, 00:29:15
and somehow the museum, which is the one I probably would have put money on. 00:29:20
Would have been the one to flood. Didn't get flooded, but it was actually just my bad timing and my bad luck was that I had just 00:29:26
said let's. 00:29:30
Like clear it out, paint it, you know, clean it up and everything. And then literally I think the week we were doing at the storm 00:29:35
hit. And so I think it looked like it was like a storm impact, you know? 00:29:41
But we have a museum committee right now, and they're working actively, they actually. 00:29:47
Have some events coming up where they're. 00:29:53
Working to come in and start cleaning up and they took all the materials because there was just there was a lot in that museum, it 00:29:57
was full. 00:30:01
And they took everything, took it out, put it into storage where we're cleaning it up, and then they're going to start going 00:30:05
through it and deciding what goes back into the museum. 00:30:09
We do have a member who's on the museum committee, so I don't know if you have anything you want to add to that or if that's 00:30:14
accurate. 00:30:17
Very accurate. Anyway, yes, I am on the museum committee and we're working really hard to get it open again. 00:30:22
But there's some restraints that we have just on the physical facility. So we're trying to make that happen sooner than better. 00:30:28
Our city manager came and gave us a presentation about four months ago. 00:30:37
About an issue that we thought was a concern. 00:30:43
Our bathrooms are not a compliant. 00:30:46
88 compliant. 00:30:50
And but we've come up with, we think a solution for that. We're just going to upgrade the present bathroom that we have. 00:30:52
And not in a big way. 00:30:59
And then you know. 00:31:02
A Porta Potty. 00:31:04
That's ADA compliant. 00:31:06
And we think we'll meet all the standards and keep the cost down, I think. 00:31:11
I think it's I saw something from Charles, our assistant city manager. I think that's his title. 00:31:16
$4000. 00:31:23
For one of those units, and then. 00:31:24
I think it's $300.00 a month for upkeep. 00:31:27
So that's that part, but we're trying to get it because we're afraid that our children in our schools. 00:31:32
They're not being educated about our history, so we're trying to get it open as fast as we can. 00:31:39
So we've come up with a plan to go to the schools. 00:31:45
But we hope to. 00:31:49
By June time, maybe May June time frame to have a. 00:31:52
Somewhat some presentation. 00:31:56
Some material for people to come in and see in the museum. 00:32:01
So we have our fingers crossed. 00:32:05
It's been a long time. 00:32:08
Yeah, good progress in the last few months. I think it's, it looks really good in there. The $20,000 is important and we were. 00:32:09
Recommending it because. 00:32:19
Even just things like buying new cases for the exhibits and things like that. Everything in there was. 00:32:21
Was very, very, yeah. It wasn't the greatest. So we're trying to kind of start fresh and use the opportunity to start fresh. It 00:32:28
looked like a class that people just threw stuff in. And so we're spending a lot of time right now. 00:32:34
Actually inventorying all the material. 00:32:41
And trying to determine what is really museum material. 00:32:44
Because some of it's just. 00:32:48
People's. I won't use the word junk, but. 00:32:51
Material that people are dropped off. 00:32:55
And of course, we don't want to throw it away. We're going to try and get it back to its original owners if we can. 00:32:57
And so we've been fortunate in having a. 00:33:03
A couple of members who serve on other museums. 00:33:06
And are educating us on. 00:33:09
I'm being very careful with what we do with material that we have. 00:33:12
So we getting there? Promise? 00:33:17
And and I would have to say. 00:33:20
That at first I did not enjoy being on that committee, but. 00:33:22
The committee has started becoming more cohesive. 00:33:27
And it has made a big difference. 00:33:30
I think everybody on the committee actually likes another now. 00:33:33
Before I got the feeling there was contention. 00:33:37
Not sure what it was as well. I guess every committee goes through that, but. 00:33:40
I don't think that exists anymore. 00:33:44
Alrighty. So the last one, that line item where it says implementation labor for new enterprise resource software should not be 00:33:53
there, I apologize. That's. 00:33:58
There's no there are no dollars associated with. 00:34:04
So the $30,000 is the enterprise software that we're implementing. We're in the last. 00:34:07
Getting close to the last faces. This is specific to utility billing. 00:34:14
Which is going to impact our residents. 00:34:18
Enhance their ability to generate their bills online and be able to have more details on the billing statements that will provide. 00:34:21
History on usage. 00:34:32
Which with our legacy system, it's not easy to to do right now. So that's the $30,000. 00:34:35
For that I can ask a question. Is it possible for the city to go to? 00:34:44
An electronic web-based. 00:34:51
Billing system to eliminate the paper we. 00:34:54
Yeah, I like getting paper stuff, but this isn't a bill that. 00:34:57
Well, yeah, that's what we're targeting to do. When we roll the system, we're going to be sending out information to all of the 00:35:02
customers and. 00:35:06
Hopefully. 00:35:10
We want to get as many customers, residents enrolled in Just Auto Pay so that we don't have to. Or you can log in and in our log, 00:35:12
yeah. 00:35:17
Yeah, pay your other utilities. 00:35:22
The other thing I've brought this up to the water committee, whatever. But. 00:35:26
Replacement Camarillo and they have a system where you can see exactly how much water you're using. 00:35:30
Down to the minute. 00:35:37
OK. It's been extremely helpful in controlling. 00:35:38
If you have a leak, you can see it if they warn you. 00:35:44
I mean it's it's saved me a lot of money and I've saved an enormous amount of water through this. 00:35:47
It must be cell based because. 00:35:53
They have a little monitor on the that watches the meter. 00:35:55
I don't know if there's something. 00:35:59
That's something I'd like us to think about. In the long run, it would save a lot of money, a lot of water. 00:36:01
This city of literally will alert you if I it's a it's a half acre and it's got probably 40 sprinkler valves. One of them starts 00:36:07
leaking. 00:36:11
I check it every day I see it instead of losing hundreds or thousands of gallons of water, which sometimes just go away and you 00:36:16
don't even know where it went, so. 00:36:20
I think that's something that we will, we're going to look at with the water our water manager to I think they might probably have 00:36:25
smart meters, which we don't right now. We still do the manual reading. 00:36:31
So that's the next long term plan for the city to start looking at that. 00:36:37
The water department, they they did go to the new SCADA system. 00:36:43
And it's it's pretty cool over in our public works building they have a TV where they can monitor their system and see and it 00:36:49
starts to flash in areas if there's any problems and everything so. 00:36:54
We've gone to that and then the next thing is the smart meters for. 00:37:00
For residents, that's the next thing that we're looking. I think you probably just charge the users for that. The good news is we 00:37:04
probably wouldn't impact measure you at all because we should be able to charge it to users, but it it blew my mind. 00:37:10
Because I remember. 00:37:17
I used to see the meter readers on the scooters going down the street and then I was gone for like 5 years and I assumed they were 00:37:20
that they hadn't disappeared in that time. And the other day I saw them scooting by and I was like, oh, they're still here. So I 00:37:25
think it's time to start looking at the smart meters. 00:37:30
OK. 00:37:36
So this is just the last light is just a recap of the total revenue that we're projecting at the 3.6 million and then. 00:37:39
The expenses projected at 3.6 million as well and again it's a budget. 00:37:48
When we get the revenue projections from HDL, if those change will be adjusting that. If they go down, we'll have to adjust some 00:37:56
of the expenditures. 00:38:00
And then if they go up, you know we have to revisit the expenses and again we're going to be revisiting the the budget. 00:38:06
With the department. So if anything, like I said, the one that comes to mind is all we talked about for graffiti we made. 00:38:13
Bump that up a little bit. 00:38:19
Um, but this is what we are. 00:38:21
Planning to present to. 00:38:25
Council for Measure U. 00:38:27
I would like to recommend that we try to under spend a little bit and get a bit of a cushion going. 00:38:30
You know, it turned out to be really helpful because the bubbling springs. 00:38:36
And that happened. Kind of a mistake, maybe, but I'm glad it was there. We figured it out. It'd be kind of nice if we could. 00:38:41
Spend a little less than we're bringing in to keep some for a rainy day because I'm. 00:38:50
Sure, we're going to need it at some point. 00:38:54
Are there any limitations, David, that we have to turn this around every year? 00:38:59
And take it to 0 or can we have a reserve? 00:39:05
Oh yeah, we just had a $1.7 million surplus, so. 00:39:08
Yes, we can. 00:39:12
I think the. 00:39:15
The challenge we'd have to work through, I think is. 00:39:16
Accounting for measure U. 00:39:20
We expect to have kind of a balanced budget essentially. 00:39:23
And so if we save money for measure U, then we don't have a balance, we goes back into the unassigned. So if we didn't spend it 00:39:26
all, then we would have almost the same challenge that we did with the 1.7. So with every year we have a residual, if you will, 00:39:32
but then it's getting swept into the. 00:39:37
Because this general fund revenue, so it doesn't go into any reserve, it's just it's not restricted. 00:39:43
It would just go into the general fund, so it just goes into the checking account, if you will. 00:39:49
So we're targeting. 00:39:54
To to balance it every year. So we ended up setting up kind of a special account for the surplus we had before. 00:39:57
Can we do that? 00:40:06
I think at the end of the year, because this is a budget, so I would say. 00:40:10
We're this is a budget and then we're going to have actuals, right. So at the end of the year if we. 00:40:14
End up with a surplus and Measure U that could be transferred to the reserve for capital for Measure U capital projects that think 00:40:19
that we could the committee could make that determination at the end of the fiscal year based on actual. 00:40:25
You know at some point the peers going to not get knocked down again and we're going to need some. 00:40:33
OK. So there is a couple of things that we had talked about. 00:40:40
Removing like the there's $50,000 from one of the line items that was double counted you had mentioned I think, right. So there's 00:40:44
a couple of those areas. So if we remove those, there would start, there would be some. 00:40:50
Yeah. So the two line items that I proposed we $30,000 for the, yeah, $30,000 for the Facilities Property Maintenance. 00:40:59
But I was going to replace that with a full lifeguard that learn to swim program pool lifeguard. 00:41:10
And then the other one was the 50% of the crossing guards because we get reimbursed. So that's 47,500 and I was going to replace 00:41:15
that or I'm proposing to replace it with the Whitening Beach Festival expenses. 00:41:23
So I guess, I guess there's the question. It's would we want to? 00:41:33
Include the Wine Amy Beach Festival expenses as part of Measure You or we rather Say No and. 00:41:37
And have savings of. 00:41:42
$77,000 I'd rather say no. 00:41:44
That's something we would vote on or not. That's up to the committee. And then if that's done, then yeah, then we can look at kind 00:41:48
of at the end of the year. 00:41:52
When all the numbers come in, in their final and assuming we do have that gap and that you know something didn't happen where the 00:41:57
revenues came in lower than expected or something, then we could look at how we. 00:42:02
At putting that into a separate fund. 00:42:08
But so that would that would probably be part of any motion from the committee. 00:42:11
OK, so if there are? 00:42:21
No further questions. I think we're ready to. 00:42:24
We were going to vote to accept this. 00:42:28
Can I have a motion? 00:42:32
We're going to vote to. 00:42:34
And again change. 00:42:36
The Facilities maintenance. 00:42:39
The Facilities Property Maintenance $30,000 and replace that with the pool. 00:42:45
Lifeguard Learn to Swim program. 00:42:51
Right. And then we're going to remove. 00:42:53
Completely. 00:42:56
Is that what we're? 00:42:58
Reduce the $95,000 that we have for lifeguard, crossing lifeguards and crossing guards, I'm sorry, instead of 95,000 is 47,500 and 00:43:01
then we're going to let the difference just flow through. So there will be excess revenues. 00:43:08
Over expenditures. 00:43:17
I make a motion that we. 00:43:19
Vote for that. 00:43:21
Do we have a second? 00:43:23
Second, do you need to make a roll call or? 00:43:25
All in favor. 00:43:32
Aye. 00:43:33
Motion passes unanimously. 00:43:36
OK, we're on to the transition and use. 00:43:40
Tax Citizens Oversight Committee Draft report to the Council. 00:43:43
I reviewed this and it doesn't cover why we haven't met really for a long time. So I've. 00:43:49
Proposed that put these thoughts down. 00:43:55
At the end of it, I basically said recommended that we. 00:43:59
Delete a couple things in the. 00:44:04
Report that we got and replace them with the stuff in this. 00:44:08
Report. 00:44:15
Since nobody had a chance to read this before today, I don't. 00:44:17
I don't know whether you had it just to think it over or would like to make. 00:44:20
Corrections or differences in it or? 00:44:23
Want to just accept the staff report? 00:44:26
Talk about that. 00:44:30
I was able to review it. I'm sorry, I was cheating. 00:44:32
During the meeting, I wasn't given all full attention. 00:44:35
And also I would just say with David's background, he has lived this since November of 2018. 00:44:38
He's been her one sole person. 00:44:46
I don't even think our clerk has. 00:44:50
And supporting this committee since 2018. 00:44:54
So, and I I just vouch for David. He's a good, honest guy. 00:44:57
You would not give us propaganda. 00:45:02
OK. 00:45:05
No, I keep it. I keep a close eye on you. 00:45:09
So I I think we should. 00:45:13
I'd like to make a motion that we accept this if if we later on some of you read this and find out it's not exactly everything we 00:45:20
can always amend or correct, but I'd love to get this into our record and into our files. 00:45:25
That's my motion. 00:45:34
Any other thoughts Can I? I just want to clarify what we're removing just to make sure that I let the second page of the handout. 00:45:37
So on the first page, we're removing paragraphs 1. 00:45:46
3:00 and 4:00. 00:45:54
So we're leaving in, so we add the scope of duties from. 00:45:56
The draft letter in the packet to the letter provided by. 00:46:01
Chairman. 00:46:06
And then I think that was. 00:46:09
It right? 00:46:12
Routine paragraph two and Page 1, paragraphs 2 and three on page 2. 00:46:14
And then add this in. 00:46:21
So. 00:46:24
If you give me the copy that I can. 00:46:28
Change. I can do the changes myself and resubmit it. I don't know how we want to go ahead with this. Yeah, if the committee 00:46:33
approves it will, we will take it, put it together and then we'll send it to you just to confirm it was the way it was intended so 00:46:38
that could work. And just to speak to the point. 00:46:44
So I think it makes sense. 00:46:50
We work together on the letter. 00:46:53
And since we weren't. 00:46:55
Involved prior, we didn't really want to speak for what happened in the past. So I think your letter just as a you were here, so 00:46:57
you can speak to that. So I think I think it makes sense. So on that note. 00:47:04
Luckily, as we're taking a look at this, nobody. 00:47:11
Who's currently serving in anything that I can see was ever here, even back to 2018, The council's all switched over, the staff 00:47:14
has switched over. 00:47:18
And so some of the. 00:47:23
I'll call them transgressions or done by people before. 00:47:25
You guys all got here, so yeah. 00:47:30
And they did want to really do a shout out to Tony Stewart because. 00:47:33
He he He did. 00:47:36
I contacted him and he just acted quickly and we got started, which is. 00:47:38
I was quite happy with after three years of trying to harangue everybody into doing something. Yeah, that's great. I want him to 00:47:42
get credit for it. 00:47:46
Let's hope. I was hoping to get that credit, but. 00:47:51
OK. So I will make the changes and then I'll send it back to the committee. 00:47:59
Think we make the changes, Send it to Chair Scrivener. Just make sure it is the way it was intended. 00:48:08
And then ultimately, I guess the next question would be, so then it would go to the Council for presentation and I think the 00:48:13
understanding was that the committee would want to nominate. So that was the next question. Does the committee want to nominate a 00:48:18
member to present it to council? 00:48:23
I would recommend David. 00:48:30
I second that. 00:48:33
He has the blood, sweat and tears. 00:48:35
I think we should all be there for it. 00:48:39
And stand up. I mean, I'm willing to do the lead on it, but you know we're all this is a committee, it's not me, so. 00:48:41
Should be there in. 00:48:49
That work? 00:48:51
We don't need a motion for that. I think he doesn't want all the blame. 00:48:53
That works and it probably would be probably. I think we're looking at a date in May. 00:49:00
I think it was. 00:49:06
I'm trying to remember we had our kind of tentative schedule. I think we were looking at a date in May where we would do it. So 00:49:08
we'll get that date to everybody and see if it works. We have a little bit of flexibility before the budget. I won't be here for 00:49:12
most of May, but if I am, I will be here. 00:49:16
I do want to say that I really appreciate what you guys have brought to the table here. This is a real difference from what we had 00:49:21
before. It's transparent, you're open, you have good ideas, you're flexible. So. 00:49:27
I really appreciate your support. Yeah give great information and feedback and thanks for doing because we look at how would I 00:49:33
written if there's anything that you it is you know think shouldn't go in there you know just get a hold of me and. 00:49:39
That's what I'll do, then I'll send it to you and then you can look at it and I'll send you the dates. 00:49:47
The it's either the last one in April or the first one in May, things I can't remember exactly, but those are the two dates that. 00:49:52
We were thinking only because. 00:49:59
We want to take the final budget to Council, the last meeting of May, so we would like for the committee to. 00:50:01
I guess it's not doesn't matter, but those are the two dates, so I'll send you the dates and then it's working out nicely. Because 00:50:07
our thought was basically it's like we can put a. 00:50:11
Button on this and then start our new budget year fresh with you know and we did today was sort of a big accomplishment that we 00:50:16
kind of all brushed under the rug but it was the first time we were looking ahead. You know every other meeting has been looking 00:50:22
behind. So it's like we want to kind of that to be the. 00:50:27
The way it works moving forward so. 00:50:33
I feel like the city's really turned a corner and we're. 00:50:36
Thanks for looking up. I mean, thank you. 00:50:38
As long as you don't get it, a tsunami, it's going to say, I feel like every time we think that we have more rain and I know 00:50:41
there's more Saturday, so. 00:50:44
We need to adjourn the meeting. 00:50:57
Draft report. 00:51:00
And do we have any? Is there anything else we need to do here? 00:51:04
I think that's it. I think we're good, but we have I guess we we had a motion and a second so. 00:51:09
All in favor. 00:51:16
Aye. 00:51:19
Is there any other business anybody else like to bring up before we? 00:51:30
I get to use this. 00:51:34
Just to comment, there was discussion about water meters. 00:51:37
Some of the Hoas I know this is not the issue here. Some of the Hoas have just one big huge. 00:51:41
Water main coming in. I understand that they. 00:51:49
City went in and put some meters on those. They just used to give us water, unquestionably. 00:51:52
And I don't know when they made that change, but. 00:51:59
That becomes a real burden right now for HOA's because many of them are on 1m. 00:52:02
And so it's it makes. 00:52:09
Has a tendency to allow people to wastewater. 00:52:12
And I know it's not our responsibility to equip the Hoas accordingly, but they're never going to spend that money. 00:52:16
And we're going to get nailed over all as a city for water usage if we don't pay attention to it. So I don't know how, how. 00:52:25
We impose as a city. 00:52:32
Or help out and. 00:52:35
Maybe give some fundings to HOA so they can. 00:52:37
Set up meters accordingly. A little differently, but that's. 00:52:40
I I don't even know if we'll be able to have golf courses in the future with some of the restrictions. 00:52:45
On water, it's going to get tougher than that. The the latest new law we're hearing that's coming is not, not even like, you know, 00:52:51
at one point it was sort of like the luxuries like golf courses that might go away and now they're literally talking about like 00:52:58
grass in medians and right of ways just little strips of grass are going to have to go away. 00:53:05
And so there's a. 00:53:12
A lot of change coming in that world that we have to prepare for and we're gonna have to change some landscaping and things like 00:53:14
that too, so. 00:53:18
It's going to be a bigger impact and then. 00:53:23
Not to go on a rant, and I'm probably getting close to like, not being on the agenda, but. 00:53:26
Let them every time we stop or every time we reduce our water usage. 00:53:31
We end up having to pay more for water. 00:53:36
Because we're selling less water and we're and so then the cost of each gallon of water costs more and the maintenance and all 00:53:39
that. 00:53:42
So it's this cycle that. 00:53:47
A lot of the water agencies are trying to figure out where. 00:53:50
People stop using water and it makes everything more expensive and then your new quota gets dropped and you know, it's just, it's 00:53:54
the constant battle, so. 00:53:58
So we're working on that. We actually just submitted a letter opposing some of the rate increases from the people we buy water 00:54:03
from from 17% rate increase that they're trying to impose right now. 00:54:08
So we're opposing that because then if they pass it, we have to figure out then how to pass that on, so. 00:54:13
So there's the water world as a whole other animal. 00:54:19
How often do they do that? I mean, how often do you have to renegotiate? 00:54:24
They, they pretty much, they have usually there's like an opportunity to pass on like a rate increase every year basically and 00:54:27
they. 00:54:32
You know, if they pass on something like inflation level then that's usually one thing, but this year? 00:54:38
Metropolitan water is the main one and that's one that a lot of us get our water, water from and they're they're proposing a 17% 00:54:44
increase so. 00:54:48
Is that like across the county or just it's everybody who gets water from them, which includes for example us in Oxnard? 00:54:54
Definitely get water from them. And then I think there's three or four other cities that do and then there's a couple of cities 00:55:02
that don't that are kind of. 00:55:06
You know, Ohio is an example that is up by themselves and they get their water from their groundwater instead of from 00:55:11
metropolitan, but. 00:55:14
Most of the most of us, like in the Oxnard Plain area, we enter some water at least for metropolitan OK, yeah. 00:55:18
That's reality, I mean. 00:55:28
More and more people, and more and more concrete and less and less rain. 00:55:30
Well, my question again was. 00:55:37
You know if the city can look at find a way to subsidize. 00:55:39
And regulators in such a way, but right now. 00:55:43
I would have to say that we're using more water than others, so we're. 00:55:46
Keeping your costs down. 00:55:50
We'll talk to the water. 00:55:54
Division on that, I think. 00:55:56
I like to say a lot that we can't be the first city in the world that had to figure out how to help Hoas with their water systems, 00:55:59
you know. So we'll follow up on that. We'll look into into it. Thank you. Yeah. Thank you. 00:56:05
On that note, let's join the meeting and the time is. 00:56:13
601. 00:56:18
Thank you. 00:56:22
Our next meeting is scheduled for July 24th. 00:56:24
At 5:00 PM. 00:56:28
But we'll see everybody at council before that. 00:56:30
Thank you and you'll send out notifications and when you get a date for that, OK? 00:56:34
When we send out the report, we'll make sure we. 00:56:39
The two dates. 00:56:43
Flexibility. 00:56:46