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CALL TO ORDER / ROLL CALL
PUBLIC COMMENT
Item #1: Oath of Office for Newly Appointed Commissioner
Item #2: Agency Clerk to Conduct Election of Chair
Item #3: Incoming Chair to Conduct Election of Vice Chair
CONSENT CALENDAR
BUSINESS ITEMS
Item #5: Update Regarding Heroes, History and Heritage Policy Nomination: Richard Bard Monument
Item #6: Review of City’s Legislative Platform
STAFF COMMENTS
COMMISSIONERS COMMENTS
ADJOURNMENT

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	Welcome to the Citizen Advisory Commission meeting. I'd like to call the meeting to order. The time is now 403.	00:03:37
	Madam Clerk, please take roll call.	00:03:47
	Commissioner Burke.	00:03:50
	Here, Commissioner Moody.	00:03:53
	Commissioner Savala here.	00:03:57
	Oh, there he is.	00:03:59
	Chair bruning and we'll give a vice chair.	00:04:02
	I.	00:04:06
	And Vice Chair Eau Claire.	00:04:18
	Just in the nick of time, I'm present. Thank you.	00:04:22
	We will now hear public comments not pertaining to items on the agenda.	00:04:27
	Comments are limited to 3 minutes the process.	00:04:32
	The same for comments pertaining to each.	00:04:37
	Agenda item.	00:04:40
	Madam Clerk, do we have anyone who has a public comment?	00:04:42
	We have 1 written public comment. It says. Please consider electing Jan Burke, a Citizen Advisory Commission Chairperson. She is	00:04:46
	well qualified as a longtime neighborhood resident who is active in the community and in touch with many residents.	00:04:53
	The CAC represents.	00:05:01
	She currently serves as chairperson of the Whining Me HOA Coalition group and is involved in the local business community as an	00:05:02
	owner operator.	00:05:06
	Her experience and community connections make for an excellent chairperson candidate. Thank you Mr. Jeffrey Scarberry.	00:05:11
	And that concludes public comment.	00:05:18
	Thank you. Now we'll have installation of officers.	00:05:21
	The oath of office for newly appointed Commissioner. I'd like to welcome our newly appointed Commissioner.	00:05:27
	Mark Zavala and Invite of the City Clerk to administer the oath of office.	00:05:33
	Hi, Mark Zavala.	00:05:55
	Do solemnly swear.	00:05:57
	That I will support and defend.	00:06:00
	The Constitution of the United States.	00:06:03
	In the constitution of the State of California.	00:06:07
	Against all enemies.	00:06:10
	Foreign and domestic.	00:06:12
	That I will bear true faith and allegiance.	00:06:15
	To the Constitution of the United States.	00:06:20
	Into the constitution of the State of California.	00:06:24
	Did I take this kind of this obligation freely?	00:06:28
	Without any mental reservations.	00:06:32
	Or purpose of evasion.	00:06:36
	And I will.	00:06:39
	Well and faithfully.	00:06:40
	Discharge the duties.	00:06:43
	Upon which I am about to enter.	00:06:46
	Well, thank you.	00:06:49
	Thank you.	00:06:51
	Commissioner Savala, would you like to say a few words?	00:06:53
	Very few.	00:06:57
	Sure. I'll just just a little short history. My name is Mark Zavala.	00:06:59
	I was born and raised in Illinois. Went to school there.	00:07:05
	Initially went to college and ran out of money, so I joined the Air Force at 4:00.	00:07:10
	14 months in Vietnam when I got out of the Air Force.	00:07:16
	Finished college at Western Illinois University. Applied for a job with the Los Angeles Police Department.	00:07:19
	Came out here in 1972.	00:07:25
	I worked 33 years with them.	00:07:28
	And I'm happily married. I live in Port Hueneme. I've been here since 2006.	00:07:31
	When I retired, I had a house up here. Little house.	00:07:37
	And I have a daughter in San Diego. She's a District Attorney. I have a daughter in.	00:07:41
	Bend OR.	00:07:46
	And she's working on her master's as a teacher.	00:07:48
	And I've got 4 grandchildren.	00:07:52
	And happily married and I love poor Amy.	00:07:55
	So.	00:08:00
	OK, now I will turn it over to the clerk for this next item.	00:08:05
	We are going to open nominations for the election of Chair. Do I have any nominations?	00:08:11
	I would like to nominate Steven Eau Claire.	00:08:20
	Do I have any other nominations?	00:08:26
	OK, hearing none, I will proceed with a roll call vote for the nomination of Stephen Ecclair for Chair.	00:08:30
	Commissioner Burke.	00:08:37
	Commissioner Moody.	00:08:41
	Commissioner Zavala.	00:08:44
	Chair Rooney, Mr. Eau Claire.	00:08:48
	Epstein abstain. OK, motion passes with Mr. Claire abstaining.	00:08:53
	Welcome and congratulations, Carol, Claire and you may know conduct.	00:09:00
	The yay. Thank you. I have a oh, OK.	00:09:04
	So I now declare the The next thing we're going to be doing is electing conducting the election of a vice chair.	00:09:18
	The position of the vice chair is vacant. The floor is now open for nominations for vice chair of this Commission. Are there any	00:09:25
	nominations from a commissioner?	00:09:29
	Yeah, I know. I need.	00:09:34
	OK, there is one nomination. Are there any other nominations?	00:09:38
	Any other nominations? Clerk if you'd like to call the roll.	00:09:45
	OK. Thank you.	00:09:49
	We will go with.	00:09:51
	Commissioner Moody.	00:09:53
	Commissioner Zavala.	00:09:56
	Commissioner Bernie.	00:09:59
	We'll say Eau Claire, aye and.	00:10:03
	Miss Burke?	00:10:06
	I too will abstain.	00:10:08
	OK, motion passes.	00:10:09
	Vice Chair Burke abstaining.	00:10:12
	Thank you and congratulations. This is going to be a good year. So we're now going to move to the next item, which is the consent	00:10:15
	calendar.	00:10:19
	These items are considered together as one unless a member wishes to discuss it.	00:10:24
	May I entertain a motion and a second to approve? The consent calendar contains the minutes from our last meeting.	00:10:29
	Is there a motion?	00:10:36
	I'll make a motion to accept it. There is a motion. Is there a second? Second.	00:10:38
	There is a second.	00:10:43
	Are there any opposed to the motion or all in favor?	00:10:48
	Say aye, aye. Any opposed?	00:10:51
	Seeing none, the consent calendar is agreed to and the minutes are adopted, we're now going to move to business item number 2,	00:10:54
	which is.	00:10:59
	A business item.	00:11:07
	And that is the update regarding the Heroes history and Heritage policy policy nomination.	00:11:10
	Which is the Richard Bard monument. Will staff please present the report.	00:11:16
	Good afternoon and congratulations to Chair Eau Claire and Vice Chair Burke.	00:11:24
	As many of you will recall, the Commission reviewed Oxnard Harbor District's application for a Barred monument.	00:11:30
	At its November 13th, 2023 meeting.	00:11:38
	The item is included on today's agenda in order to provide.	00:11:41
	An update. Since that review happened, no action is requested from the Commission this afternoon.	00:11:44
	After the commission's review, the item was discussed at a city.	00:11:52
	Port joint committee meeting.	00:11:56
	And the port indicated their intent to develop a survey to receive public input about the location of the proposed monument.	00:11:58
	A draft survey which was included in your agenda packet.	00:12:06
	Was presented to the City Council on March 18th.	00:12:10
	And reviewed At that time, the Council supported the use of the survey, but made specific requests for amendments to the draft	00:12:14
	survey that had been prepared.	00:12:18
	Specifically the changes that were requested.	00:12:23
	Included ensuring the location options on the survey are properly described.	00:12:26
	That a map which identifies the geographic locations.	00:12:32
	Is included.	00:12:35
	In a statement indicating that the survey was intended for Port Hueneme, residents also be included on the survey.	00:12:37
	I am recently advised that the survey that the port had developed is on hold.	00:12:45
	And that the Oxnard Harbor District will be meeting to consider.	00:12:52
	An alternate location to the one that was initially presented to this body.	00:12:57
	As you may have noticed in the audience, Miguel Rodriguez, a representative from the Oxnard Harbor District, is here.	00:13:04
	Again, this was intended as an update, since this body reviewed the item and it did go to council. An additional review and	00:13:11
	consideration and direction was provided by Council.	00:13:15
	No action has been requested if there are questions for staff.	00:13:19
	Or for Mr. Rodriguez, we'd be happy to respond.	00:13:23
	Thank you very much. Does the Commission have any questions for staff? This is only take questions at the time.	00:13:30
	At this time Rather comments and discussion will be heard later after public comment. Are there any questions clarifying questions	00:13:37
	though of staff?	00:13:40
	Just a clarifying question, so turn on your mic, OK?	00:13:44
	So if if I heard you right.	00:13:51
	They're looking to the original proposed location is going to be.	00:13:55
	Not considered and they're going to consider other locations. Is that correct, Might did I hear that right?	00:14:01
	I'll give a, I'll give a quick answer and then Miguel can provide clarity. If I don't state it right. I think that the.	00:14:07
	Commissioners are going to meet and consider an alternative location. Other than the one that was presented, I don't know that any	00:14:15
	firm decision has been made to officially.	00:14:19
	Omit anything but there is interest in considering alternate locations.	00:14:27
	Is that correct? Thank you. Any other clarifying questions of staff from the commissioners?	00:14:32
	OK, we're now going to move to public comment. Are there any public comments?	00:14:40
	From the applicants or others on this item. No public comments.	00:14:45
	OK. With that, are there any?	00:14:49
	Comments from the Commissioners on this item.	00:14:55
	Our discussion.	00:14:59
	Right. I do want to thank the the port and the city for working on this item. I know it's.	00:15:04
	It's been a long, I think a couple of years that they've been working on this going back and forth and so.	00:15:10
	While in some ways.	00:15:16
	They're having to go back to the.	00:15:18
	The drawing board and exactly where it's placed, I appreciate that. Hopefully there's collaboration between the port and the city	00:15:21
	and they're going to find a location for this statue.	00:15:25
	And I look forward to a.	00:15:31
	An update in the future.	00:15:33
	Commissioners, any other comments?	00:15:36
	OK, go ahead, Commissioner Moody.	00:15:39
	On for this survey.	00:15:44
	Is is it going to be only what Port Hueneme residents or is it?	00:15:45
	Oxnard residents also.	00:15:50
	Commissioner Moody, to answer your question right now, the survey will be placed on hold, however, based on the recommendations.	00:15:56
	From City Council At the council meeting, there was a stipulation that the survey include text or language to differentiate	00:16:04
	residents from my name from other residents. So. But as of right now there's.	00:16:12
	No movement on the survey whatsoever. OK, It's on hold. Thank you, Sir.	00:16:20
	I too just want to say thank you for.	00:16:28
	Reevaluating the situation and trying to look for the best possible solution here, because I don't think anybody we know that	00:16:31
	statues right now is not necessarily really popular topic.	00:16:37
	From society but.	00:16:44
	We appreciate Mr. Bard's contribution to our city.	00:16:46
	And we do want to acknowledge that and we just want to find the right home for him.	00:16:50
	Thank you.	00:16:55
	Any other comments from any other commissioners?	00:16:57
	OK, this item is a.	00:17:02
	Receive and file and it's on the update. Rather, it's an update on the status of the application of the Bard monument.	00:17:05
	Is there a motion now since we've received the update to receive and file this report?	00:17:12
	I'll make a motion. I'll second.	00:17:20
	It's been moved in second seconded.	00:17:23
	Are there any all in favor? Say aye.	00:17:25
	Aye. Are there any opposed?	00:17:28
	Hearing none, the motion passes and is agreed to.	00:17:30
	And the item is received and filed. Thank you to staff.	00:17:33
	We're now going to move to a business item.	00:17:38
	Well, it's a.	00:17:42
	Interesting. It's the next business item which is the to review the cities legislative platform.	00:17:45
	Will staff please present the report on this item?	00:17:52
	OK. So the next business item, as the Chair indicated, is an opportunity to review the city's legislative platform?	00:17:57
	A legislative platform allows.	00:18:04
	For a prompt response by the city to propose legislation at the county, state or federal levels.	00:18:07
	Also provides clarity regarding the City's position on various forms of legislation.	00:18:15
	And allows for either the.	00:18:20
	Mayor Pro Tem where city manager to issue a letter of support or opposition based on that position.	00:18:22
	The Commission reviewed the city's proposed legislative platform back in October of 2022.	00:18:28
	When the platform was initially put together, the document was reviewed by the Commission and forwarded to council. They reviewed	00:18:35
	it on December 19th.	00:18:39
	2022 and January 17, 2023 and was ultimately approved at the subsequent Council meeting on February 6th of 2023.	00:18:44
	The version presented to CAC was amended through that council review process.	00:18:53
	And I wanted to let the Commission know specifically how it was amended from when it was presented to the Commission.	00:18:59
	So it's included in the staff report, but I'll just read it for those who may be watching the meeting or listening.	00:19:06
	First, the section 12A.	00:19:14
	Which referred to opposing legislation that would increase work.	00:19:19
	Workman's compensation benefits.	00:19:22
	That would result in additional employer costs was removed from the platform.	00:19:24
	Also removed with section 31F.	00:19:29
	Which Reads support legislation that would.	00:19:33
	Support reimbursement by federal government for costs associated with incarcerating deportable criminals.	00:19:36
	And then we had some additions. Section 7 is a new section of the platform entitled Mental Health.	00:19:44
	And it expresses the city's support for community based mental health initiatives.	00:19:49
	Outreach to those in need of mental health services.	00:19:54
	Providing a continuum of mental health care for all, Increasing funding and services for suicide awareness and prevention.	00:19:57
	And access to telehealth services.	00:20:03
	There was also language that enhanced the scope of support for legislation relating to veterans services, military spouses and	00:20:06
	financial incentives for former and current service members.	00:20:11
	That was added to section 12 of the platform.	00:20:17
	And then lastly, Section 13 entitled Law Enforcement was added and again as a new section to express the city's advocacy for law	00:20:20
	enforcement related legislation in the following categories.	00:20:26
	Social support, peer support and mental health suicide prevention training.	00:20:32
	Familial support and technology in the field of law enforcement.	00:20:37
	So those were the changes that were made and approved by the Council after the Commission had the opportunity to review that.	00:20:42
	It's prudent for any city to review and consider its legislative platform periodically and that's why it is once again brought	00:20:49
	forward. Not necessarily that there are any required changes, but it's an opportunity for the Commission to review, weigh in and	00:20:55
	provide any.	00:21:01
	Advice to ensure that.	00:21:07
	Current or anticipated future needs within the Community are accounted for in the legislative platform.	00:21:10
	So the item provides the opportunity for the commissioners and any interested members of the public to provide input on the	00:21:17
	document.	00:21:20
	Any recommended changes?	00:21:23
	Would be presented to Council for final consideration.	00:21:25
	That concludes the staff presentation available to answer any questions the Commission may have.	00:21:30
	Thank you to the staff for that.	00:21:38
	Presentation and preparing this report. Does the Commission have any questions for staff? Only questions at this time?	00:21:40
	I have one question.	00:21:50
	Given this started in 22 and 23.	00:21:53
	And just as a point of clarification, the current city manager.	00:21:58
	Did he have any chance or opportunity to weigh in on some of these changes?	00:22:04
	As the new leader of our organization here.	00:22:09
	Just curious because it this took place prior to his coming on board.	00:22:14
	And if you had any recommendations or changes that he would like to.	00:22:20
	Put forward.	00:22:23
	Yeah, I did have a conversation with him. And you're absolutely correct in stating that both the original draft and the changes	00:22:25
	that were made by the council, both of those.	00:22:29
	We're prepared and approved prior to his arrival to the city.	00:22:33
	He did not have any recommended changes for the Commission to consider.	00:22:37
	The one conversation we did have there are.	00:22:42
	Certain things happening out in the Ethos Metropolitan Water District recently raised some rates which will have a direct impact	00:22:45
	on our water users.	00:22:49
	So that may be things of that nature just, you know, kind of the protection of.	00:22:54
	Our taxpayers. Our residents. Utility users.	00:22:59
	Protection from unfunded mandates or pass through costs from other agencies, things of that nature.	00:23:03
	But other than that, no specific requests or recommendations for the Commission to consider.	00:23:10
	Any other questions of staff on this item? We can enter into discussion after this.	00:23:20
	OK, we're now going to move to public comments. Are there any public comments regarding this item? No public comments.	00:23:26
	There are no public comments on this item. The recommendation is to conduct a review of the legislative platform and consider the	00:23:32
	need for.	00:23:36
	Rather consider the need for recommended changes to the city councils consideration.	00:23:40
	I'll now invite.	00:23:47
	A discussion regarding any recommended changes to this item. Before we do that, Commissioners, I recommend that we take maybe two	00:23:48
	or three minutes to review the document.	00:23:53
	I'm sure many of us have reviewed this before we came to the meeting, but I know it's a long document, so let's take maybe 3	00:23:58
	minutes to just.	00:24:00
	Look through it.	00:24:04
	And glance through and see if we have any questions.	00:24:06
	You don't have a OK, so it should be.	00:24:10
	Yeah, it should be.	00:24:14
	Tab 6 I believe.	00:24:16
	Yeah, so if you go to tab 6, it's a Gray tab.	00:24:20
	Absolutely. So we're going to take just a few minutes to review this.	00:24:24
	And then we'll come back together, Commissioners, and discuss.	00:24:28
	We're now going to be entering discussion on this item. Again, this is the consideration of.	00:29:13
	The legislative platform, Any recommendations we have or general feedback for staff?	00:29:19
	We're not, of course, the final body on this, we're just providing feedback that eventually will go on to the.	00:29:25
	The council members.	00:29:30
	What feedback does the Commission have or discussion or recommendations?	00:29:32
	I have one. I think overall this is well done.	00:29:39
	On the section Public Protection section #3.	00:29:45
	Crime F.	00:29:51
	It says support legislation that would enhance local control over public nuisances.	00:29:55
	Including adult entertainment problem, alcohol establishments and properties where illegal drugs are sold.	00:30:01
	I'm just curious why we wouldn't just say.	00:30:08
	Included, but not limited to.	00:30:11
	It seems like it's. I mean, we don't, first of all, we don't even have an alcohol establishment anymore. We don't even have a bar	00:30:13
	in our town. So it just seems kind of limited as far as.	00:30:18
	What it is calling out specifically?	00:30:24
	So these are just examples and just.	00:30:28
	Just one. It's just a little wordsmithing, that's all.	00:30:32
	OK. Is there any other feedback?	00:30:37
	Commissioner Burke.	00:30:40
	Well done. Any other commissioners?	00:30:44
	Yeah.	00:30:49
	On page 15.	00:30:53
	Number Roman numeral #10.	00:30:57
	And it speaks of the arts.	00:31:00
	And I just think it's kind of nebulous.	00:31:03
	And I know we talked about it as far as the.	00:31:10
	Beach Festival and the funding and.	00:31:15
	You know anything that's going to enhance the quality of life and.	00:31:19
	I would just think that as far as the arts and cultural resources and.	00:31:24
	Historic preservation, You know that that.	00:31:29
	Maybe could be flushed out a little bit more.	00:31:33
	You know.	00:31:37
	You know, and and I'm, you know, and I'm OK with not having any bars, you know, in the city, you know, or anything like that. That	00:31:39
	doesn't bother me, but.	00:31:43
	But I mean.	00:31:46
	You know what would be the? You know there could be a process for.	00:31:48
	You know, concerts and.	00:31:53
	Poetry readings, you know, or anything that would enhance the quality of life.	00:31:55
	And you know, yeah, I understand, you know, when you say support legislation, you know, but.	00:32:01
	What specifically are we talking about?	00:32:08
	You know, it kind of just makes me think of what I'm.	00:32:11
	Teaching kids how to write an essay and the whole thing.	00:32:16
	About flushing out your points and stuff like that.	00:32:19
	And I just think that that could be something that would be really great for the city.	00:32:23
	You know, and we we did speak of.	00:32:26
	The budget how it wasn't paying for itself.	00:32:30
	I'm just kind of.	00:32:34
	You know, we're trying to remember off the top of my head, but.	00:32:35
	I would just think those are things that we would want to.	00:32:40
	Make sure that we're on point with as far as.	00:32:44
	The quality of life for the city, you know, especially for the kids.	00:32:47
	You know, being a coach.	00:32:51
	I know that.	00:32:54
	You know, and I'll just bring up one point and I'll be brief, you know, but with the use of the boys club.	00:32:57
	My kids a basketball player and.	00:33:03
	You can't. You know you can't use the gym if you're under 18.	00:33:08
	You know, and I don't mind bringing him over there.	00:33:12
	But it's it's within walking distance of my house and you know, and I feel comfortable having my kid, you know, go down there.	00:33:16
	And be able to play pick up games and stuff like that.	00:33:23
	I just think it's you know, broad based and I think that we could do a better job as far as you know.	00:33:26
	You know, we are talking arts, cultural resources and historic preservation. The other point I'd like to make too is.	00:33:32
	Concerning the.	00:33:39
	It kind of dovetails with the statue of Mr. Bard.	00:33:41
	You know, and perhaps if there was more information.	00:33:46
	That talked about, you know, I mean, I I understand, you know, because I was part of the presentation.	00:33:49
	When the gentleman was talking about that, but what about other people who?	00:33:55
	Don't really know exactly the insurance and outs of everything he did you know to.	00:33:59
	To, you know, bring the city to where it is today.	00:34:04
	To me, that's like a historic preservation, you know? And I think that that should be really fleshed out.	00:34:06
	You know, as far as the legislative process goes, right?	00:34:12
	If we're going to put money behind that to make sure that everybody knows what's going on, you know, within this.	00:34:15
	You know, especially the residents, and that's why I asked Mr. Miguel.	00:34:20
	About the survey concerning if it was only going out to whining residents.	00:34:24
	You know who is going to have input.	00:34:29
	You know, because it says Oxnard Harbor district, right? So.	00:34:31
	I know that they're all connected, right? You know?	00:34:35
	And if that makes sense, but that's kind of what I'm thinking right now.	00:34:37
	You know, looking at this.	00:34:40
	Thank you, Thank you, Commissioner Moody, So I've noted that.	00:34:43
	You would like more specifics around the arts platform section of the platform, maybe a little bit more expansive?	00:34:47
	Right. Well, just enhance you know, to know exactly where you know.	00:34:53
	What the process is?	00:34:57
	Any other commissioners?	00:35:04
	Well, I have a few. Um.	00:35:11
	That I would like a few comments to make. I appreciate that the Council and the proposal that went to Council last time ultimately	00:35:14
	removed some of the items.	00:35:18
	That I believe I actually made the motion on two of these to have them removed, including the.	00:35:23
	Opposition. Or to remove the opposition to rather to oppose legislation that would increase worker compensation benefits.	00:35:28
	I stand by that. I think it was.	00:35:38
	Not great. It's not a good look as a city to say let's pay our staff as little as possible when it comes to work or compensation.	00:35:41
	And then the other item which I.	00:35:49
	Was still shocked was in that proposal, which had to do with reimbursement of incarcerating deportable criminals, as it says.	00:35:52
	In a community that has undocumented individuals, that's language we should not have in our platform and I'm glad that it was	00:35:59
	removed.	00:36:03
	And hopefully.	00:36:07
	We don't experience that again where something having to do with the undocumented community and the city benefiting from deporting	00:36:09
	them.	00:36:12
	Is added.	00:36:16
	And so I appreciate that that was removed and it's a sign in good faith. I hope that undocumented community can can trust our city	00:36:18
	that we're not just looking at profiting off.	00:36:23
	Deporting them.	00:36:28
	Or participating in their deportation.	00:36:30
	And so I appreciate those. I appreciate the other additions.	00:36:34
	For the other parts of the legislative platform, I do have a concern around item under general governance, so actually the first	00:36:38
	page.	00:36:43
	2B Under workers compensation.	00:36:50
	It's a support legislation that would reform the workers compensation process to incentivize employees returning to work.	00:36:57
	Creating a disincentive for those that do not return.	00:37:05
	To available modified duty on an alternative positions.	00:37:09
	I'm just concerned that there's some elements in the platform that are still kind of anti worker and I think that is anti worker.	00:37:17
	Anti union worker, An anti worker. And so I believe the city should be supporting the Wellness of our staff and not creating	00:37:25
	disincentives.	00:37:30
	For them, especially if they're going through the workers compensation process, that means that they've had an experience.	00:37:36
	That they need to be supported through.	00:37:42
	And whether that's an injury on the job or something else, I'm concerned that the city would be supporting legislation.	00:37:44
	That would be penalizing.	00:37:51
	US staff at any time.	00:37:54
	Under Labor Relations #4.	00:37:57
	For B.	00:38:01
	Excuse me? That's not the one for E is what I'm referring to, and that is opposed legislation that requires the use of city	00:38:05
	employees rather than a city giving the city.	00:38:10
	The flexibility determine the most effective means of providing a service, including contracting out.	00:38:15
	This item I'm also not totally comfortable with. It's kind of a well known anti collective bargaining, anti labor.	00:38:23
	Union Labor.	00:38:32
	Platform.	00:38:34
	To weaken the use of unionized labor and instead contract out.	00:38:36
	Those services. So in general it would be opposed to 4E.	00:38:42
	Umm N2B.	00:38:48
	For similar reasons, I think we need to be pro worker support our staff.	00:38:51
	And impose the elimination of our staff members.	00:38:55
	So with that, I don't know if my colleagues have comments on those two points.	00:39:01
	On your two points.	00:39:11
	To be in 4 E on the.	00:39:13
	It's it's not.	00:39:17
	I think it's how you interpret it as a business owner.	00:39:19
	And in the state of California.	00:39:24
	Brooklyn's compensation?	00:39:27
	Is challenging to say the least.	00:39:29
	And I you know, incentivizing people to come back to work is very important because the the legal system is.	00:39:32
	Is very, very difficult to navigate as a business owner and imagine it's probably the same with the city, so to.	00:39:43
	To incentivize people to get back to work and try to provide a better path forward for them.	00:39:51
	I do. I think it's an important.	00:39:55
	Topic to consider.	00:39:58
	I think that.	00:40:00
	You know, to de incentivize those who do not return to work.	00:40:02
	You know I think that that's how you interpret that. I think that if we, if our incentives are are to come back to work are are.	00:40:06
	Fair, reasonable and and meaningful to the employee. I think that that that's a really good.	00:40:13
	'Cause to have.	00:40:21
	And if and but to try to mitigate the legal aspect of people who try to to not come back to work and just use the system is where	00:40:23
	I think that.	00:40:28
	I think is what the interpretation and the meaning is here, and I think that it's important that we realize and be cognizant of	00:40:33
	that fact that.	00:40:36
	Is there, I mean having.	00:40:40
	Have to deal with, you know?	00:40:43
	A lot of cases in my past, it's it's tough.	00:40:45
	Out of business, and I'm sure it's tough on the city, too.	00:40:49
	So I I.	00:40:53
	I don't necessarily agree 100% with your your your points. I do agree that it's important to incentivize people to come back to	00:40:55
	work and then on on your your.	00:41:00
	Second point.	00:41:05
	Opposed legislation?	00:41:08
	That requires city employees.	00:41:10
	To have the flexibility to.	00:41:12
	To contract out, basically.	00:41:16
	We're small city.	00:41:19
	We can't exactly. We can't hire all of the resources that we need.	00:41:21
	Sometimes we have special projects, sometimes we have special.	00:41:25
	Temporary work. Sometimes we have special needs for specific.	00:41:30
	Tasks and As a small city, we can't necessarily afford to hire full time staff.	00:41:35
	From some of the positions that we need.	00:41:42
	Again, as a business owner.	00:41:44
	And a small.	00:41:46
	Medium sized company.	00:41:48
	I from time to time do.	00:41:51
	Higher for specific projects and I think it's reasonable to to do so and I think that.	00:41:53
	You know, if we have the opportunity for a special.	00:41:59
	Master plan or a special?	00:42:03
	Project that the City Council would like to see done.	00:42:07
	And the staff has to execute it. They may not have the resources and like it's sort of like this. Is events Event is a very good	00:42:10
	example of that.	00:42:14
	You know, maybe the city decided to bring it back in house, which is terrific, to keep it local, to keep it.	00:42:18
	A project that's run by the city.	00:42:28
	There may be times when they want want to outsource some pieces of that. So I think we just need to find that balance and I think	00:42:31
	that I what I'd like to recommend is that we keep that in there because it gives the we got to give the city some flexibility.	00:42:37
	On other Commissioners on that, on those two points.	00:42:47
	Would the Commission entertain for #2B?	00:42:57
	To eliminate creating a, recommend the removal of, creating a disincentive for those that do not return to work.	00:43:01
	That section.	00:43:11
	To focus on incentives rather than creating a disincentive.	00:43:14
	Well, again, my question would be how do you define this incentive?	00:43:22
	Well, right now, if we adopt this as is, we're leaving it completely open.	00:43:28
	That we would allow, we would support the state.	00:43:33
	Passing legislation that could penalize employees in any way they see fit for going on workers compensation.	00:43:37
	Well, the city is very limited as to how they can disincentivize.	00:43:53
	That but.	00:43:57
	Could we eliminate that one phrase?	00:43:59
	I would be OK with that. I think that it's it's.	00:44:02
	Maybe understood that we try to work through those things, those challenges and try to.	00:44:06
	Make the best of them, so I'd be OK with that.	00:44:12
	OK.	00:44:21
	So with that, are there any other comments?	00:44:24
	On the platform.	00:44:28
	I'll get the feedback that I have heard and then it will go to staff.	00:44:33
	Is around the crime.	00:44:37
	Being more expansive on item F.	00:44:40
	Umm, which had to do with.	00:44:44
	The type of areas that.	00:44:46
	It's just so we all review kind of the feedback we've given.	00:44:49
	To staff. If we reach consensus on this, feedback would be even even stronger.	00:44:53
	Would be under public protection under Crime Item F support legislation that would enhance local control over public nuisances.	00:45:00
	Including adult entertainment facilities.	00:45:10
	Problem problem alcohol establishments and properties where illegal drugs are sold.	00:45:13
	No, it would be. It would read, including, but not limited to.	00:45:19
	So adding not limited to it.	00:45:27
	Do we have that noted?	00:45:34
	To figure those things out. Is there a consensus on that recommendation?	00:45:37
	I agree with Jen.	00:45:42
	OK for.	00:45:44
	Under the Arts section.	00:45:46
	Commissioner Moody had suggested that instead of.	00:45:53
	Currently, there is only one item under the arts, which is support legislation for continued state funding that recognizes the	00:45:57
	role.	00:46:01
	Of the Sorry the role that local art activities and historic preservation have in community life.	00:46:05
	Just a recommendation that we're a little bit more expansive in that area and leave it deferred to staff on what that looks like.	00:46:12
	I agree with Commissioner Moody's recommendation and I think that, you know, adding even just as simple as arts and culture.	00:46:24
	Arts, culture and historic preservation.	00:46:33
	Could help that but and I just looking to because it's it's in the title but it's not in the the the the language of the topic so.	00:46:36
	I think if we can.	00:46:46
	Flush that out a bit more, a little more robust.	00:46:48
	All-encompassing.	00:46:56
	For arts, culture, and historic preservation.	00:47:00
	Is there any other? Yeah, just just maybe you know what what direction the city wants to go and you know, to specify that.	00:47:05
	So there's consensus around that, feedback on that item.	00:47:15
	OK. And then the item I raised, which is under general general governance.	00:47:21
	Under workers compensation, it's #2B.	00:47:28
	And it would be to.	00:47:32
	End #2B at returning to work.	00:47:35
	So striking from creating a disincentive all the way to alternative positions.	00:47:39
	There's consensus on that.	00:47:48
	Any other items, yes.	00:47:52
	Section C.	00:47:57
	Let's all support legislation that provides local government the power to determine whether anti opiate medication should be	00:48:00
	deployed in a given community.	00:48:06
	I'm sorry, can you can you refer to the reference Public protection drugs and it's part C?	00:48:13
	Page 9.	00:48:22
	9.	00:48:25
	Yes, on page line at the top, page 9 of 16 top. OK, see.	00:48:27
	What does that mean?	00:48:33
	Why? Why does the city?	00:48:36
	Trying to be doctors. I mean, I don't understand what it's trying to say.	00:48:39
	I don't know if that city manager's office or staff can speak to that. I have a.	00:48:48
	We have a theory that what that might be, yeah. I have a theory of what that might be referring to. But if the city manager.	00:48:55
	So it's not not my area of expertise. When we put the legislative platform together, we did ask all departments to review and	00:49:05
	provide there's.	00:49:09
	Given your background, you may be able to quickly correct my assumption here, but I'll throw one thing out. I know that.	00:49:14
	This is under crime and drugs and law enforcement.	00:49:21
	When police officers come into contact with people that have overdosed Narcan and other.	00:49:25
	Drugs are sometimes administered to help bring them back.	00:49:33
	This speaks to the local power to administer certain drugs. So if that falls into the category of.	00:49:37
	Anti opiate, perhaps it's referring to that.	00:49:43
	OK. But those guys are trained.	00:49:49
	Correct, yes.	00:49:51
	OK, I got you. All right. So that makes sense.	00:49:52
	To me now.	00:49:55
	On the on that item, we should perhaps have a conversation around do we?	00:49:57
	Think the city.	00:50:05
	Should be in favor in the expansion use of Narcan, for example on this item? Or are we opposing because this says that the cities?	00:50:08
	One second to support legislation.	00:50:21
	Yeah. This is that provides local. Yeah. It's so it's it's saying, hey, it's saying they have the power to yeah, I mean whether to	00:50:24
	use it or not. Excuse me over and over again.	00:50:29
	I mean essentially this is coming from the leagues of city, is my assumption right? And it's all about local control, local	00:50:34
	control, local control, every every one of these bullet points pretty much is the state is us saying.	00:50:39
	State don't tell us what to do. We want local control.	00:50:45
	Now when I see this, it's telling me.	00:50:49
	Perhaps.	00:50:53
	Do we view the opiate crisis in such a way that we're saying, hey, let's do all options on the table, or are we going to say hey	00:50:56
	no, we want local control on the use of Narcan?	00:51:01
	And I'm not sure how the Commission feels on that. I would rather be part of a regional or statewide approach.	00:51:07
	Then say hey no, we want local control on whether how we save lives.	00:51:15
	With Narcan, well, yeah.	00:51:19
	It makes sense to have the experts tell us what's good.	00:51:22
	But we didn't. CDC didn't do a hell of a good job, so.	00:51:25
	But I agree that.	00:51:30
	No, the city.	00:51:34
	If what?	00:51:39
	The city manager said is accurate.	00:51:41
	I'm sure it is. I mean that makes sense, but.	00:51:43
	For the city to decide what?	00:51:47
	Is medically.	00:51:49
	Good or bad for these opiate computers?	00:51:51
	I mean that's.	00:51:55
	Not doctors.	00:51:56
	To the conversation that the Commission is having, I'll just add there's nobody in the city that considers themselves a medical	00:51:58
	expert. Those decisions on whether to administer and use would be based on best practice on.	00:52:04
	Medical journals, medical publications, and studies that suggest that it is or is not an effective tool.	00:52:11
	And you're right, Chair, it is really about local control, the city being able to research, gather data and make those decisions	00:52:17
	rather than.	00:52:21
	Be told by another agency whether it should or should not use those.	00:52:25
	I mean in general when it comes to this use.	00:52:30
	I would defer to the statewide agencies who are addressing the opiate use and and things like the California Department of Public	00:52:33
	Health and others.	00:52:37
	On how we can best deploy these life saving measures.	00:52:42
	As the city manager's office mentioned, we don't necessarily have an expert on.	00:52:46
	On Narcan and we would be referring to these same departments, so to say, kind of.	00:52:51
	I don't want to make a mountain out of mole mole hill here, but um.	00:52:57
	I'm just cautious around, especially public health and saying hey.	00:53:02
	Actually, somehow we we will know more.	00:53:06
	Then then statewide experts in Narcan.	00:53:09
	Generally, the people that administer that stuff are trained like medical personnel, they are ambulance people.	00:53:15
	And largely because officers that have this stuff are trained on it also. But it's.	00:53:23
	Usually for extreme emergencies, right? And largely regulated by the state.	00:53:28
	Correct. Right. And so.	00:53:33
	There was a movement to actually make Narcan available as broadly as possible, and so, for example, many schools in the country,	00:53:36
	or a state rather, are now being supplied with Narcan.	00:53:42
	I know in some instances municipalities are training things like individuals like front, front desk, administrative assistants and	00:53:49
	others on both like the paddles on heart attacks and Narcan.	00:53:56
	In case somebody shows up.	00:54:04
	In your lobby, who's overdosing?	00:54:06
	So we don't need to belabor this point, but I.	00:54:08
	That two point, since you brought it up, that was kind of my concern is.	00:54:11
	Especially right now with the opiate crisis so.	00:54:16
	Our communities, I think it's fine the way it's written to support legislation that provides local government the power to	00:54:19
	determine whether an anti opioid medication should be deployed.	00:54:24
	In a given community and who has the authority to administer it? So I think that the wording is actually appropriate. Well, it.	00:54:30
	Acknowledge that, Yeah, I I.	00:54:39
	My concern is it's it, it sounds like.	00:54:41
	It's positive, but it's actually about local control. It's saying we're not going to listen to the necessarily deferred to the	00:54:45
	experts at public health, at the state or statewide strategies.	00:54:49
	Where? Well, it's saying we're going to provide that local government has the power that we're going to.	00:54:54
	Decide. Somebody here at the City Hall is going to decide.	00:55:00
	Whether or not they follow best practices. Whether or not they follow.	00:55:03
	Public health guidance.	00:55:07
	And I don't know if I'm comfortable.	00:55:09
	Saying umm.	00:55:11
	That we're going to just oppose any kind of.	00:55:15
	Recommended guidance from the state.	00:55:18
	Again, I don't want to belabor the point, but in general that's where I see this contrast between local control.	00:55:21
	And things like, hey, we need to save lives. Why are we saying hey, keep, stay, stay out of our backyard, let us can decide	00:55:27
	whether or not and how we save lives.	00:55:31
	The way I'm reading this.	00:55:37
	Is that they're wanting?	00:55:40
	To be able to.	00:55:44
	Use an anti opiate medication.	00:55:46
	Maybe it should be should say should be deployed in a given situation.	00:55:52
	And set a.	00:55:59
	Yeah, because even where it says given, community seems kind of problematic to me, right? We're going to decide that when you mean	00:56:01
	Bay is not going to get, it should probably say should be deployed in a given situation.	00:56:07
	And who has the authority to administer it?	00:56:15
	I understand where they're going with this, yeah.	00:56:18
	I have a medical background.	00:56:22
	So they're wanting to say.	00:56:24
	We want the power to administer.	00:56:28
	One of these drugs, if we need to.	00:56:32
	But when it says in a given community, that's that's a broadband.	00:56:36
	It should say get in a given situation.	00:56:42
	I'll second that.	00:56:47
	Any other commissioners comments on that?	00:56:50
	Maybe we add some language in there with regards to the science.	00:56:56
	Based on science.	00:57:01
	The most recent science based knowledge and learnings that we can.	00:57:03
	Determine as the best practices. Just something simple like that, OK?	00:57:09
	Including some.	00:57:14
	I mean, you have to use discretion, you have to use common sense. But you, you know, using science as the.	00:57:17
	As the, as the.	00:57:24
	Navigational tool to get us where we need to be? Yeah. Scientific guidance, right?	00:57:25
	OK. Any other? I think we're getting close to consensus on this item. Any other feedback?	00:57:32
	I just want to thank you, Commissioner, for bringing up this item, and it sounds like we've reached consensus on this, at least	00:57:39
	providing some feedback.	00:57:42
	There any other any other feedback on this platform?	00:57:46
	OK, let me find my little CHEAT SHEET here.	00:57:51
	OK, so.	00:58:02
	Just in summary of the recommended changes that we've reached consensus on, we're about to do a motion on all of them together.	00:58:04
	Would be crime.	00:58:12
	Having to do with the more expansive language.	00:58:14
	The Arts section having more specifics.	00:58:17
	The item having to do with workers compensation removing and striking the section of the sentence having to do with creating a.	00:58:22
	Disincentive all the way through the remainder of that sentence. That's number.	00:58:29
	To be under general governance.	00:58:34
	And then under crime.	00:58:37
	Excuse me, under public protection?	00:58:40
	Under Section 2, which is drugs.	00:58:43
	Striking the the section of the sentence referring to a given community and instead say a given situation, right?	00:58:48
	And then adding some language they're having to do with following.	00:58:56
	Guidance. Medical scientific guidance.	00:59:00
	OK. Is that clear for staff?	00:59:03
	Is there a motion to approve those recommendations? I make a motion to approve those.	00:59:07
	OK. Is there a second? I'll second it. OK, there is a second.	00:59:13
	OK. All those in favor, say aye.	00:59:20
	Aye, aye. Any opposed?	00:59:22
	OK. That item is adopted.	00:59:26
	Excuse me, those recommendations are made to staff.	00:59:28
	OK, now we are going to make a little bit of an exception here.	00:59:33
	We are now going to briefly return to public comment.	00:59:37
	And just because we we had overlooked an individual who wanted to speak.	00:59:43
	On an item and while we have already.	00:59:47
	Addressed item 5, which is the update on the Heroes heritage and.	00:59:52
	Policy. I would like to just briefly give that an opportunity for the member of the public that wanted to address that item.	00:59:56
	As a reminder, we can't enter into a discussion because we've already handled that item, but if that individual wanted to come	01:00:02
	forward and give public comment.	01:00:06
	I believe they have 3 minutes.	01:00:10
	Thank you, take 3 minutes, but first of all.	01:00:12
	Chairperson.	01:00:17
	Members of the committee and staff.	01:00:19
	My name is Tom King. I'm a resident. Poor way. Nimi been here for.	01:00:23
	Over 20 years.	01:00:27
	My comment has to do.	01:00:31
	And I really want to appreciate what the chair has said, Mr. Moody said.	01:00:34
	And what?	01:00:38
	Committee member Burke has said in regards to flushing out certain language about the monument.	01:00:42
	And what the port is doing?	01:00:48
	And you've been wrestling with language.	01:00:51
	And so getting to the point which is in flushing out particular issue.	01:00:55
	Umm, myself And certainly people that I'm very familiar with.	01:01:02
	Have the highest regard for the Bart family, certainly the city.	01:01:10
	And people that are working with the city's.	01:01:13
	And like yourselves, committee doing the hard work, work that a lot of people apparently don't see.	01:01:18
	So I'm sorry about that.	01:01:25
	But I wanted to speak because it has to do with the survey.	01:01:27
	The survey has been proposed, has been postponed, I guess in regards to the language and some of the.	01:01:32
	Meat of the survey.	01:01:42
	What is concerning to me, and I wanted to bring it to the attention of the committee, so there's nothing to decide.	01:01:45
	But apparently.	01:01:52
	Why Nimi Wharf?	01:01:53
	And the Flood Plaza is no longer that.	01:01:56
	According to the draft of the port.	01:01:58
	That was published March 18. It's the Bard Wharf and Flag Plaza.	01:02:03
	Apparently Bubbling Springs Park is not Bubbling Springs Park, but is, at least according to this draft.	01:02:10
	Richard Bart. Bubbling Springs Park.	01:02:19
	Perhaps I missed the meeting.	01:02:23
	Where this was approved by the city.	01:02:25
	But it occurs to me that.	01:02:28
	What I have here is a published document. It's a draft.	01:02:32
	But if we're going to parse out words.	01:02:37
	And language.	01:02:41
	It's pretty biased.	01:02:43
	And if you were doing a survey where you wanted independent?	01:02:45
	Judgment, Spirit of the community.	01:02:50
	I just would argue.	01:02:54
	This, in terms of appearances, seems biased to me.	01:02:57
	And I can tell you there's a concerted group that would be against the placement of this monument.	01:03:01
	At the Flag Plaza.	01:03:07
	And I made about 3 minutes, but thank you for the opportunity to speak. Thank you. Thank you for your public comment. And I know	01:03:10
	staff was taking some notes there. And we appreciate your public comment. Thank you.	01:03:16
	So we're now going to move to staff comments. This is an opportunity for the staff to provide any comments or reminders that they	01:03:24
	have for the commissioners.	01:03:28
	I only had one comment to make this afternoon. I don't know if anybody was able to attend, but I.	01:03:34
	Since we last met, we did hold our Run For Your Heart 5K event down at the beach.	01:03:42
	That was an item that this Commission had the opportunity to review the plan for and was ultimately approved.	01:03:50
	The special use permit was approved by the City Council for that, and I just wanted to share. We had between 5 and 600	01:03:57
	participants we had a Wellness fair with.	01:04:01
	A dozen service providers providing various services to members of our community and overall it was generally a very successful	01:04:06
	event, so just wanted to.	01:04:10
	Thank you for your review and your input about that event, and in case you didn't get a chance, I just want to let everybody know	01:04:15
	that.	01:04:18
	It was a it was a great success and we look forward to.	01:04:22
	Hosting another one and as a reminder, that was through the Community Benefit Fund and was in partnership.	01:04:25
	With the Oxnard Harbor district, So we look forward to more partnerships with community benefit funds in the future.	01:04:31
	Thank you. Thank you. Want to make a comment on that if I may. That was I I got to watch it and it was it was lovely and I got to	01:04:39
	watch it from my my home and I saw.	01:04:43
	All kinds of crazy outfits during the run, even even tutus, which was really funny.	01:04:49
	But it was I was, I was surprised how many people showed up for that. That was a wildly successful event. So thank you for for	01:04:55
	putting that on.	01:04:59
	Any other staff updates or reminders?	01:05:06
	OK, we're now going to move to commissioner comments. This is the time for the commissioners to provide any general comments.	01:05:09
	We can't enter into discussion on specific items, but any general comments they have.	01:05:16
	As well, of course, you can always reach out to staff. Are there any commissioner comments?	01:05:22
	Just a quick comment, I just I found out today that.	01:05:27
	Grocery Outlet is opening next week.	01:05:31
	And they have a $1000 grocery giveaway for people that sign up on Facebook.	01:05:34
	So I'm excited to finally have a grocery store in our backyard and and I hope everyone will go out and support.	01:05:40
	Grocery Outlet, it's such a wonderful thing to have something close by that we can all.	01:05:48
	Participate in and it's a great step forward for our economic development for our city.	01:05:54
	Any other Commissioner comments, Commissioner Moody?	01:06:02
	Yeah, if you're.	01:06:04
	Over by the high school.	01:06:07
	And you're on C St.	01:06:09
	And you're driving down. Take a look up at the tennis courts. We have a really cool banner from the port.	01:06:11
	Working with Adam Vega.	01:06:19
	Who's been supporting our?	01:06:22
	Viking tennis down there and.	01:06:25
	It's just really cool, you know? The kids are really jazzed.	01:06:28
	You know, they've taken a real sense of pride, Mr. Vega came over to the school.	01:06:33
	And did a presentation.	01:06:38
	For both teams.	01:06:40
	Brought a bunch of swag just like Mr. Miguel has on with the logo right there. Brought all the kids hats and.	01:06:43
	You know, we took a lot of pictures and stuff and it was.	01:06:50
	And it was just really cool.	01:06:56
	I feel good every time I drive down C St. and I see the banner it says.	01:06:59
	Port Away Nimi supports biking, tennis.	01:07:03
	And I just think that's really cool. You know, and.	01:07:07
	Kudos to your organization, you know.	01:07:10
	We are grateful, you know, on behalf of the kids.	01:07:12
	You know, they walk around with the beanies on and.	01:07:15
	The hats on, you know and it's.	01:07:18
	They feel good, you know. So thanks very much for listening to me.	01:07:20
	Thank you, Commissioner Moody. Any other?	01:07:24
	Comments from a commissioners.	01:07:26
	I just want to really appreciate staff.	01:07:32
	Putting this all of course, this agenda together, all of our other work we've done in the the last six months or so, the	01:07:36
	Commission has been more active than it's ever been and so this is.	01:07:41
	What although another step in this kind of process for all of these items, I think it's a meaningful 1.	01:07:48
	I know the city's also been improving, or rather expanding its communications online on its website.	01:07:55
	And that's a big deal. I know that takes staff time and it's it's important.	01:08:02
	As well as.	01:08:07
	I know we're kind of navigating on certain times right now.	01:08:08
	As far as state funding, we have state proposition one that passed that's going to have impacts in our city.	01:08:12
	The state budget deficit is going to have an impact in our city and so that's very unknown time for our staff to navigate what	01:08:18
	exactly our budget is going to look like. And so I just want to appreciate them and and their wisdom as we navigate these kind of.	01:08:25
	Possibly difficult times that our city will be having, hopefully not where weather the storm.	01:08:32
	Finally, I just want to acknowledge. So our next meeting is in July, so I just want to.	01:08:38
	Encourage everybody and to continue to attend our community events both in the City of Winemie and an Oxnard and county wide.	01:08:42
	In June, we will have the Juneteenth Festival in downtown Oxnard. There will also be Oxnard Pride and that's going to be a	01:08:51
	wonderful that of course includes Port Hueneme. It's our LGBTQ plus Pride event in June. And so I really encourage everyone to	01:08:57
	participate in those and any other community events that we have.	01:09:04
	Coming up.	01:09:12
	With.	01:09:13
	Our next regular meeting of the Citizen Advisory Commission is Monday.	01:09:15
	July 8th at 4:00 PM.	01:09:19
	And with that, the meeting is now adjourned. The time is 509. Thank you everyone, and thank you to the commissioners and the	01:09:22
	members of the public that are here. And of course, thank you to our fabulous staff. Thank you so much.	01:09:27

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	Welcome to the Citizen Advisory Commission meeting. I'd like to call the meeting to order. The time is now 403.	00:03:37
	Madam Clerk, please take roll call.	00:03:47
	Commissioner Burke.	00:03:50
	Here, Commissioner Moody.	00:03:53
	Commissioner Savala here.	00:03:57
	Oh, there he is.	00:03:59
	Chair bruning and we'll give a vice chair.	00:04:02
	I.	00:04:06
	And Vice Chair Eau Claire.	00:04:18
	Just in the nick of time, I'm present. Thank you.	00:04:22
	We will now hear public comments not pertaining to items on the agenda.	00:04:27
	Comments are limited to 3 minutes the process.	00:04:32
	The same for comments pertaining to each.	00:04:37
	Agenda item.	00:04:40
	Madam Clerk, do we have anyone who has a public comment?	00:04:42
	We have 1 written public comment. It says. Please consider electing Jan Burke, a Citizen Advisory Commission Chairperson. She is	00:04:46
	well qualified as a longtime neighborhood resident who is active in the community and in touch with many residents.	00:04:53
	The CAC represents.	00:05:01
	She currently serves as chairperson of the Whining Me HOA Coalition group and is involved in the local business community as an	00:05:02
	owner operator.	00:05:06
	Her experience and community connections make for an excellent chairperson candidate. Thank you Mr. Jeffrey Scarberry.	00:05:11
	And that concludes public comment.	00:05:18
	Thank you. Now we'll have installation of officers.	00:05:21
	The oath of office for newly appointed Commissioner. I'd like to welcome our newly appointed Commissioner.	00:05:27
	Mark Zavala and Invite of the City Clerk to administer the oath of office.	00:05:33
	Hi, Mark Zavala.	00:05:55
	Do solemnly swear.	00:05:57
	That I will support and defend.	00:06:00
	The Constitution of the United States.	00:06:03
	In the constitution of the State of California.	00:06:07
	Against all enemies.	00:06:10
	Foreign and domestic.	00:06:12
	That I will bear true faith and allegiance.	00:06:15
	To the Constitution of the United States.	00:06:20
	Into the constitution of the State of California.	00:06:24
	Did I take this kind of this obligation freely?	00:06:28
	Without any mental reservations.	00:06:32
	Or purpose of evasion.	00:06:36
	And I will.	00:06:39
	Well and faithfully.	00:06:40
	Discharge the duties.	00:06:43
	Upon which I am about to enter.	00:06:46
	Well, thank you.	00:06:49
	Thank you.	00:06:51
	Commissioner Savala, would you like to say a few words?	00:06:53
	Very few.	00:06:57
	Sure. I'll just just a little short history. My name is Mark Zavala.	00:06:59
	I was born and raised in Illinois. Went to school there.	00:07:05
	Initially went to college and ran out of money, so I joined the Air Force at 4:00.	00:07:10
	14 months in Vietnam when I got out of the Air Force.	00:07:16
	Finished college at Western Illinois University. Applied for a job with the Los Angeles Police Department.	00:07:19
	Came out here in 1972.	00:07:25
	I worked 33 years with them.	00:07:28
	And I'm happily married. I live in Port Hueneme. I've been here since 2006.	00:07:31
	When I retired, I had a house up here. Little house.	00:07:37
	And I have a daughter in San Diego. She's a District Attorney. I have a daughter in.	00:07:41
	Bend OR.	00:07:46
	And she's working on her master's as a teacher.	00:07:48
	And I've got 4 grandchildren.	00:07:52
	And happily married and I love poor Amy.	00:07:55
	So.	00:08:00
	OK, now I will turn it over to the clerk for this next item.	00:08:05
	We are going to open nominations for the election of Chair. Do I have any nominations?	00:08:11
	I would like to nominate Steven Eau Claire.	00:08:20
	Do I have any other nominations?	00:08:26
	OK, hearing none, I will proceed with a roll call vote for the nomination of Stephen Ecclair for Chair.	00:08:30
	Commissioner Burke.	00:08:37
	Commissioner Moody.	00:08:41
	Commissioner Zavala.	00:08:44
	Chair Rooney, Mr. Eau Claire.	00:08:48
	Epstein abstain. OK, motion passes with Mr. Claire abstaining.	00:08:53
	Welcome and congratulations, Carol, Claire and you may know conduct.	00:09:00
	The yay. Thank you. I have a oh, OK.	00:09:04
	So I now declare the The next thing we're going to be doing is electing conducting the election of a vice chair.	00:09:18
	The position of the vice chair is vacant. The floor is now open for nominations for vice chair of this Commission. Are there any	00:09:25
	nominations from a commissioner?	00:09:29
	Yeah, I know. I need.	00:09:34
	OK, there is one nomination. Are there any other nominations?	00:09:38
	Any other nominations? Clerk if you'd like to call the roll.	00:09:45
	OK. Thank you.	00:09:49
	We will go with.	00:09:51
	Commissioner Moody.	00:09:53
	Commissioner Zavala.	00:09:56
	Commissioner Bernie.	00:09:59
	We'll say Eau Claire, aye and.	00:10:03
	Miss Burke?	00:10:06
	I too will abstain.	00:10:08
	OK, motion passes.	00:10:09
	Vice Chair Burke abstaining.	00:10:12
	Thank you and congratulations. This is going to be a good year. So we're now going to move to the next item, which is the consent	00:10:15
	calendar.	00:10:19
	These items are considered together as one unless a member wishes to discuss it.	00:10:24
	May I entertain a motion and a second to approve? The consent calendar contains the minutes from our last meeting.	00:10:29
	Is there a motion?	00:10:36
	I'll make a motion to accept it. There is a motion. Is there a second? Second.	00:10:38
	There is a second.	00:10:43
	Are there any opposed to the motion or all in favor?	00:10:48
	Say aye, aye. Any opposed?	00:10:51
	Seeing none, the consent calendar is agreed to and the minutes are adopted, we're now going to move to business item number 2,	00:10:54
	which is.	00:10:59
	A business item.	00:11:07
	And that is the update regarding the Heroes history and Heritage policy policy nomination.	00:11:10
	Which is the Richard Bard monument. Will staff please present the report.	00:11:16
	Good afternoon and congratulations to Chair Eau Claire and Vice Chair Burke.	00:11:24
	As many of you will recall, the Commission reviewed Oxnard Harbor District's application for a Barred monument.	00:11:30
	At its November 13th, 2023 meeting.	00:11:38
	The item is included on today's agenda in order to provide.	00:11:41
	An update. Since that review happened, no action is requested from the Commission this afternoon.	00:11:44
	After the commission's review, the item was discussed at a city.	00:11:52
	Port joint committee meeting.	00:11:56
	And the port indicated their intent to develop a survey to receive public input about the location of the proposed monument.	00:11:58
	A draft survey which was included in your agenda packet.	00:12:06
	Was presented to the City Council on March 18th.	00:12:10
	And reviewed At that time, the Council supported the use of the survey, but made specific requests for amendments to the draft	00:12:14
	survey that had been prepared.	00:12:18
	Specifically the changes that were requested.	00:12:23
	Included ensuring the location options on the survey are properly described.	00:12:26
	That a map which identifies the geographic locations.	00:12:32
	Is included.	00:12:35
	In a statement indicating that the survey was intended for Port Hueneme, residents also be included on the survey.	00:12:37
	I am recently advised that the survey that the port had developed is on hold.	00:12:45
	And that the Oxnard Harbor District will be meeting to consider.	00:12:52
	An alternate location to the one that was initially presented to this body.	00:12:57
	As you may have noticed in the audience, Miguel Rodriguez, a representative from the Oxnard Harbor District, is here.	00:13:04
	Again, this was intended as an update, since this body reviewed the item and it did go to council. An additional review and	00:13:11
	consideration and direction was provided by Council.	00:13:15
	No action has been requested if there are questions for staff.	00:13:19
	Or for Mr. Rodriguez, we'd be happy to respond.	00:13:23
	Thank you very much. Does the Commission have any questions for staff? This is only take questions at the time.	00:13:30
	At this time Rather comments and discussion will be heard later after public comment. Are there any questions clarifying questions	00:13:37
	though of staff?	00:13:40
	Just a clarifying question, so turn on your mic, OK?	00:13:44
	So if if I heard you right.	00:13:51
	They're looking to the original proposed location is going to be.	00:13:55
	Not considered and they're going to consider other locations. Is that correct, Might did I hear that right?	00:14:01
	I'll give a, I'll give a quick answer and then Miguel can provide clarity. If I don't state it right. I think that the.	00:14:07
	Commissioners are going to meet and consider an alternative location. Other than the one that was presented, I don't know that any	00:14:15
	firm decision has been made to officially.	00:14:19
	Omit anything but there is interest in considering alternate locations.	00:14:27
	Is that correct? Thank you. Any other clarifying questions of staff from the commissioners?	00:14:32
	OK, we're now going to move to public comment. Are there any public comments?	00:14:40
	From the applicants or others on this item. No public comments.	00:14:45
	OK. With that, are there any?	00:14:49
	Comments from the Commissioners on this item.	00:14:55
	Our discussion.	00:14:59
	Right. I do want to thank the the port and the city for working on this item. I know it's.	00:15:04
	It's been a long, I think a couple of years that they've been working on this going back and forth and so.	00:15:10
	While in some ways.	00:15:16
	They're having to go back to the.	00:15:18
	The drawing board and exactly where it's placed, I appreciate that. Hopefully there's collaboration between the port and the city	00:15:21
	and they're going to find a location for this statue.	00:15:25
	And I look forward to a.	00:15:31
	An update in the future.	00:15:33
	Commissioners, any other comments?	00:15:36
	OK, go ahead, Commissioner Moody.	00:15:39
	On for this survey.	00:15:44
	Is is it going to be only what Port Hueneme residents or is it?	00:15:45
	Oxnard residents also.	00:15:50
	Commissioner Moody, to answer your question right now, the survey will be placed on hold, however, based on the recommendations.	00:15:56
	From City Council At the council meeting, there was a stipulation that the survey include text or language to differentiate	00:16:04
	residents from my name from other residents. So. But as of right now there's.	00:16:12
	No movement on the survey whatsoever. OK, It's on hold. Thank you, Sir.	00:16:20
	I too just want to say thank you for.	00:16:28
	Reevaluating the situation and trying to look for the best possible solution here, because I don't think anybody we know that	00:16:31
	statues right now is not necessarily really popular topic.	00:16:37
	From society but.	00:16:44
	We appreciate Mr. Bard's contribution to our city.	00:16:46
	And we do want to acknowledge that and we just want to find the right home for him.	00:16:50
	Thank you.	00:16:55
	Any other comments from any other commissioners?	00:16:57
	OK, this item is a.	00:17:02
	Receive and file and it's on the update. Rather, it's an update on the status of the application of the Bard monument.	00:17:05
	Is there a motion now since we've received the update to receive and file this report?	00:17:12
	I'll make a motion. I'll second.	00:17:20
	It's been moved in second seconded.	00:17:23
	Are there any all in favor? Say aye.	00:17:25
	Aye. Are there any opposed?	00:17:28
	Hearing none, the motion passes and is agreed to.	00:17:30
	And the item is received and filed. Thank you to staff.	00:17:33
	We're now going to move to a business item.	00:17:38
	Well, it's a.	00:17:42
	Interesting. It's the next business item which is the to review the cities legislative platform.	00:17:45
	Will staff please present the report on this item?	00:17:52
	OK. So the next business item, as the Chair indicated, is an opportunity to review the city's legislative platform?	00:17:57
	A legislative platform allows.	00:18:04
	For a prompt response by the city to propose legislation at the county, state or federal levels.	00:18:07
	Also provides clarity regarding the City's position on various forms of legislation.	00:18:15
	And allows for either the.	00:18:20
	Mayor Pro Tem where city manager to issue a letter of support or opposition based on that position.	00:18:22
	The Commission reviewed the city's proposed legislative platform back in October of 2022.	00:18:28
	When the platform was initially put together, the document was reviewed by the Commission and forwarded to council. They reviewed	00:18:35
	it on December 19th.	00:18:39
	2022 and January 17, 2023 and was ultimately approved at the subsequent Council meeting on February 6th of 2023.	00:18:44
	The version presented to CAC was amended through that council review process.	00:18:53
	And I wanted to let the Commission know specifically how it was amended from when it was presented to the Commission.	00:18:59
	So it's included in the staff report, but I'll just read it for those who may be watching the meeting or listening.	00:19:06
	First, the section 12A.	00:19:14
	Which referred to opposing legislation that would increase work.	00:19:19
	Workman's compensation benefits.	00:19:22
	That would result in additional employer costs was removed from the platform.	00:19:24
	Also removed with section 31F.	00:19:29
	Which Reads support legislation that would.	00:19:33
	Support reimbursement by federal government for costs associated with incarcerating deportable criminals.	00:19:36
	And then we had some additions. Section 7 is a new section of the platform entitled Mental Health.	00:19:44
	And it expresses the city's support for community based mental health initiatives.	00:19:49
	Outreach to those in need of mental health services.	00:19:54
	Providing a continuum of mental health care for all, Increasing funding and services for suicide awareness and prevention.	00:19:57
	And access to telehealth services.	00:20:03
	There was also language that enhanced the scope of support for legislation relating to veterans services, military spouses and	00:20:06
	financial incentives for former and current service members.	00:20:11
	That was added to section 12 of the platform.	00:20:17
	And then lastly, Section 13 entitled Law Enforcement was added and again as a new section to express the city's advocacy for law	00:20:20
	enforcement related legislation in the following categories.	00:20:26
	Social support, peer support and mental health suicide prevention training.	00:20:32
	Familial support and technology in the field of law enforcement.	00:20:37
	So those were the changes that were made and approved by the Council after the Commission had the opportunity to review that.	00:20:42
	It's prudent for any city to review and consider its legislative platform periodically and that's why it is once again brought	00:20:49
	forward. Not necessarily that there are any required changes, but it's an opportunity for the Commission to review, weigh in and	00:20:55
	provide any.	00:21:01
	Advice to ensure that.	00:21:07
	Current or anticipated future needs within the Community are accounted for in the legislative platform.	00:21:10
	So the item provides the opportunity for the commissioners and any interested members of the public to provide input on the	00:21:17
	document.	00:21:20
	Any recommended changes?	00:21:23
	Would be presented to Council for final consideration.	00:21:25
	That concludes the staff presentation available to answer any questions the Commission may have.	00:21:30
	Thank you to the staff for that.	00:21:38
	Presentation and preparing this report. Does the Commission have any questions for staff? Only questions at this time?	00:21:40
	I have one question.	00:21:50
	Given this started in 22 and 23.	00:21:53
	And just as a point of clarification, the current city manager.	00:21:58
	Did he have any chance or opportunity to weigh in on some of these changes?	00:22:04
	As the new leader of our organization here.	00:22:09
	Just curious because it this took place prior to his coming on board.	00:22:14
	And if you had any recommendations or changes that he would like to.	00:22:20
	Put forward.	00:22:23
	Yeah, I did have a conversation with him. And you're absolutely correct in stating that both the original draft and the changes	00:22:25
	that were made by the council, both of those.	00:22:29
	We're prepared and approved prior to his arrival to the city.	00:22:33
	He did not have any recommended changes for the Commission to consider.	00:22:37
	The one conversation we did have there are.	00:22:42
	Certain things happening out in the Ethos Metropolitan Water District recently raised some rates which will have a direct impact	00:22:45
	on our water users.	00:22:49
	So that may be things of that nature just, you know, kind of the protection of.	00:22:54
	Our taxpayers. Our residents. Utility users.	00:22:59
	Protection from unfunded mandates or pass through costs from other agencies, things of that nature.	00:23:03
	But other than that, no specific requests or recommendations for the Commission to consider.	00:23:10
	Any other questions of staff on this item? We can enter into discussion after this.	00:23:20
	OK, we're now going to move to public comments. Are there any public comments regarding this item? No public comments.	00:23:26
	There are no public comments on this item. The recommendation is to conduct a review of the legislative platform and consider the	00:23:32
	need for.	00:23:36
	Rather consider the need for recommended changes to the city councils consideration.	00:23:40
	I'll now invite.	00:23:47
	A discussion regarding any recommended changes to this item. Before we do that, Commissioners, I recommend that we take maybe two	00:23:48
	or three minutes to review the document.	00:23:53
	I'm sure many of us have reviewed this before we came to the meeting, but I know it's a long document, so let's take maybe 3	00:23:58
	minutes to just.	00:24:00
	Look through it.	00:24:04
	And glance through and see if we have any questions.	00:24:06
	You don't have a OK, so it should be.	00:24:10
	Yeah, it should be.	00:24:14
	Tab 6 I believe.	00:24:16
	Yeah, so if you go to tab 6, it's a Gray tab.	00:24:20
	Absolutely. So we're going to take just a few minutes to review this.	00:24:24
	And then we'll come back together, Commissioners, and discuss.	00:24:28
	We're now going to be entering discussion on this item. Again, this is the consideration of.	00:29:13
	The legislative platform, Any recommendations we have or general feedback for staff?	00:29:19
	We're not, of course, the final body on this, we're just providing feedback that eventually will go on to the.	00:29:25
	The council members.	00:29:30
	What feedback does the Commission have or discussion or recommendations?	00:29:32
	I have one. I think overall this is well done.	00:29:39
	On the section Public Protection section #3.	00:29:45
	Crime F.	00:29:51
	It says support legislation that would enhance local control over public nuisances.	00:29:55
	Including adult entertainment problem, alcohol establishments and properties where illegal drugs are sold.	00:30:01
	I'm just curious why we wouldn't just say.	00:30:08
	Included, but not limited to.	00:30:11
	It seems like it's. I mean, we don't, first of all, we don't even have an alcohol establishment anymore. We don't even have a bar	00:30:13
	in our town. So it just seems kind of limited as far as.	00:30:18
	What it is calling out specifically?	00:30:24
	So these are just examples and just.	00:30:28
	Just one. It's just a little wordsmithing, that's all.	00:30:32
	OK. Is there any other feedback?	00:30:37
	Commissioner Burke.	00:30:40
	Well done. Any other commissioners?	00:30:44
	Yeah.	00:30:49
	On page 15.	00:30:53
	Number Roman numeral #10.	00:30:57
	And it speaks of the arts.	00:31:00
	And I just think it's kind of nebulous.	00:31:03
	And I know we talked about it as far as the.	00:31:10
	Beach Festival and the funding and.	00:31:15
	You know anything that's going to enhance the quality of life and.	00:31:19
	I would just think that as far as the arts and cultural resources and.	00:31:24
	Historic preservation, You know that that.	00:31:29
	Maybe could be flushed out a little bit more.	00:31:33
	You know.	00:31:37
	You know, and and I'm, you know, and I'm OK with not having any bars, you know, in the city, you know, or anything like that. That	00:31:39
	doesn't bother me, but.	00:31:43
	But I mean.	00:31:46
	You know what would be the? You know there could be a process for.	00:31:48
	You know, concerts and.	00:31:53
	Poetry readings, you know, or anything that would enhance the quality of life.	00:31:55
	And you know, yeah, I understand, you know, when you say support legislation, you know, but.	00:32:01
	What specifically are we talking about?	00:32:08
	You know, it kind of just makes me think of what I'm.	00:32:11
	Teaching kids how to write an essay and the whole thing.	00:32:16
	About flushing out your points and stuff like that.	00:32:19
	And I just think that that could be something that would be really great for the city.	00:32:23
	You know, and we we did speak of.	00:32:26
	The budget how it wasn't paying for itself.	00:32:30
	I'm just kind of.	00:32:34
	You know, we're trying to remember off the top of my head, but.	00:32:35
	I would just think those are things that we would want to.	00:32:40
	Make sure that we're on point with as far as.	00:32:44
	The quality of life for the city, you know, especially for the kids.	00:32:47
	You know, being a coach.	00:32:51
	I know that.	00:32:54
	You know, and I'll just bring up one point and I'll be brief, you know, but with the use of the boys club.	00:32:57
	My kids a basketball player and.	00:33:03
	You can't. You know you can't use the gym if you're under 18.	00:33:08
	You know, and I don't mind bringing him over there.	00:33:12
	But it's it's within walking distance of my house and you know, and I feel comfortable having my kid, you know, go down there.	00:33:16
	And be able to play pick up games and stuff like that.	00:33:23
	I just think it's you know, broad based and I think that we could do a better job as far as you know.	00:33:26
	You know, we are talking arts, cultural resources and historic preservation. The other point I'd like to make too is.	00:33:32
	Concerning the.	00:33:39
	It kind of dovetails with the statue of Mr. Bard.	00:33:41
	You know, and perhaps if there was more information.	00:33:46
	That talked about, you know, I mean, I I understand, you know, because I was part of the presentation.	00:33:49
	When the gentleman was talking about that, but what about other people who?	00:33:55
	Don't really know exactly the insurance and outs of everything he did you know to.	00:33:59
	To, you know, bring the city to where it is today.	00:34:04
	To me, that's like a historic preservation, you know? And I think that that should be really fleshed out.	00:34:06
	You know, as far as the legislative process goes, right?	00:34:12
	If we're going to put money behind that to make sure that everybody knows what's going on, you know, within this.	00:34:15
	You know, especially the residents, and that's why I asked Mr. Miguel.	00:34:20
	About the survey concerning if it was only going out to whining residents.	00:34:24
	You know who is going to have input.	00:34:29
	You know, because it says Oxnard Harbor district, right? So.	00:34:31
	I know that they're all connected, right? You know?	00:34:35
	And if that makes sense, but that's kind of what I'm thinking right now.	00:34:37
	You know, looking at this.	00:34:40
	Thank you, Thank you, Commissioner Moody, So I've noted that.	00:34:43
	You would like more specifics around the arts platform section of the platform, maybe a little bit more expansive?	00:34:47
	Right. Well, just enhance you know, to know exactly where you know.	00:34:53
	What the process is?	00:34:57
	Any other commissioners?	00:35:04
	Well, I have a few. Um.	00:35:11
	That I would like a few comments to make. I appreciate that the Council and the proposal that went to Council last time ultimately	00:35:14
	removed some of the items.	00:35:18
	That I believe I actually made the motion on two of these to have them removed, including the.	00:35:23
	Opposition. Or to remove the opposition to rather to oppose legislation that would increase worker compensation benefits.	00:35:28
	I stand by that. I think it was.	00:35:38
	Not great. It's not a good look as a city to say let's pay our staff as little as possible when it comes to work or compensation.	00:35:41
	And then the other item which I.	00:35:49
	Was still shocked was in that proposal, which had to do with reimbursement of incarcerating deportable criminals, as it says.	00:35:52
	In a community that has undocumented individuals, that's language we should not have in our platform and I'm glad that it was	00:35:59
	removed.	00:36:03
	And hopefully.	00:36:07
	We don't experience that again where something having to do with the undocumented community and the city benefiting from deporting	00:36:09
	them.	00:36:12
	Is added.	00:36:16
	And so I appreciate that that was removed and it's a sign in good faith. I hope that undocumented community can can trust our city	00:36:18
	that we're not just looking at profiting off.	00:36:23
	Deporting them.	00:36:28
	Or participating in their deportation.	00:36:30
	And so I appreciate those. I appreciate the other additions.	00:36:34
	For the other parts of the legislative platform, I do have a concern around item under general governance, so actually the first	00:36:38
	page.	00:36:43
	2B Under workers compensation.	00:36:50
	It's a support legislation that would reform the workers compensation process to incentivize employees returning to work.	00:36:57
	Creating a disincentive for those that do not return.	00:37:05
	To available modified duty on an alternative positions.	00:37:09
	I'm just concerned that there's some elements in the platform that are still kind of anti worker and I think that is anti worker.	00:37:17
	Anti union worker, An anti worker. And so I believe the city should be supporting the Wellness of our staff and not creating	00:37:25
	disincentives.	00:37:30
	For them, especially if they're going through the workers compensation process, that means that they've had an experience.	00:37:36
	That they need to be supported through.	00:37:42
	And whether that's an injury on the job or something else, I'm concerned that the city would be supporting legislation.	00:37:44
	That would be penalizing.	00:37:51
	US staff at any time.	00:37:54
	Under Labor Relations #4.	00:37:57
	For B.	00:38:01
	Excuse me? That's not the one for E is what I'm referring to, and that is opposed legislation that requires the use of city	00:38:05
	employees rather than a city giving the city.	00:38:10
	The flexibility determine the most effective means of providing a service, including contracting out.	00:38:15
	This item I'm also not totally comfortable with. It's kind of a well known anti collective bargaining, anti labor.	00:38:23
	Union Labor.	00:38:32
	Platform.	00:38:34
	To weaken the use of unionized labor and instead contract out.	00:38:36
	Those services. So in general it would be opposed to 4E.	00:38:42
	Umm N2B.	00:38:48
	For similar reasons, I think we need to be pro worker support our staff.	00:38:51
	And impose the elimination of our staff members.	00:38:55
	So with that, I don't know if my colleagues have comments on those two points.	00:39:01
	On your two points.	00:39:11
	To be in 4 E on the.	00:39:13
	It's it's not.	00:39:17
	I think it's how you interpret it as a business owner.	00:39:19
	And in the state of California.	00:39:24
	Brooklyn's compensation?	00:39:27
	Is challenging to say the least.	00:39:29
	And I you know, incentivizing people to come back to work is very important because the the legal system is.	00:39:32
	Is very, very difficult to navigate as a business owner and imagine it's probably the same with the city, so to.	00:39:43
	To incentivize people to get back to work and try to provide a better path forward for them.	00:39:51
	I do. I think it's an important.	00:39:55
	Topic to consider.	00:39:58
	I think that.	00:40:00
	You know, to de incentivize those who do not return to work.	00:40:02
	You know I think that that's how you interpret that. I think that if we, if our incentives are are to come back to work are are.	00:40:06
	Fair, reasonable and and meaningful to the employee. I think that that that's a really good.	00:40:13
	'Cause to have.	00:40:21
	And if and but to try to mitigate the legal aspect of people who try to to not come back to work and just use the system is where	00:40:23
	I think that.	00:40:28
	I think is what the interpretation and the meaning is here, and I think that it's important that we realize and be cognizant of	00:40:33
	that fact that.	00:40:36
	Is there, I mean having.	00:40:40
	Have to deal with, you know?	00:40:43
	A lot of cases in my past, it's it's tough.	00:40:45
	Out of business, and I'm sure it's tough on the city, too.	00:40:49
	So I I.	00:40:53
	I don't necessarily agree 100% with your your your points. I do agree that it's important to incentivize people to come back to	00:40:55
	work and then on on your your.	00:41:00
	Second point.	00:41:05
	Opposed legislation?	00:41:08
	That requires city employees.	00:41:10
	To have the flexibility to.	00:41:12
	To contract out, basically.	00:41:16
	We're small city.	00:41:19
	We can't exactly. We can't hire all of the resources that we need.	00:41:21
	Sometimes we have special projects, sometimes we have special.	00:41:25
	Temporary work. Sometimes we have special needs for specific.	00:41:30
	Tasks and As a small city, we can't necessarily afford to hire full time staff.	00:41:35
	From some of the positions that we need.	00:41:42
	Again, as a business owner.	00:41:44
	And a small.	00:41:46
	Medium sized company.	00:41:48
	I from time to time do.	00:41:51
	Higher for specific projects and I think it's reasonable to to do so and I think that.	00:41:53
	You know, if we have the opportunity for a special.	00:41:59
	Master plan or a special?	00:42:03
	Project that the City Council would like to see done.	00:42:07
	And the staff has to execute it. They may not have the resources and like it's sort of like this. Is events Event is a very good	00:42:10
	example of that.	00:42:14
	You know, maybe the city decided to bring it back in house, which is terrific, to keep it local, to keep it.	00:42:18
	A project that's run by the city.	00:42:28
	There may be times when they want want to outsource some pieces of that. So I think we just need to find that balance and I think	00:42:31
	that I what I'd like to recommend is that we keep that in there because it gives the we got to give the city some flexibility.	00:42:37
	On other Commissioners on that, on those two points.	00:42:47
	Would the Commission entertain for #2B?	00:42:57
	To eliminate creating a, recommend the removal of, creating a disincentive for those that do not return to work.	00:43:01
	That section.	00:43:11
	To focus on incentives rather than creating a disincentive.	00:43:14
	Well, again, my question would be how do you define this incentive?	00:43:22
	Well, right now, if we adopt this as is, we're leaving it completely open.	00:43:28
	That we would allow, we would support the state.	00:43:33
	Passing legislation that could penalize employees in any way they see fit for going on workers compensation.	00:43:37
	Well, the city is very limited as to how they can disincentivize.	00:43:53
	That but.	00:43:57
	Could we eliminate that one phrase?	00:43:59
	I would be OK with that. I think that it's it's.	00:44:02
	Maybe understood that we try to work through those things, those challenges and try to.	00:44:06
	Make the best of them, so I'd be OK with that.	00:44:12
	OK.	00:44:21
	So with that, are there any other comments?	00:44:24
	On the platform.	00:44:28
	I'll get the feedback that I have heard and then it will go to staff.	00:44:33
	Is around the crime.	00:44:37
	Being more expansive on item F.	00:44:40
	Umm, which had to do with.	00:44:44
	The type of areas that.	00:44:46
	It's just so we all review kind of the feedback we've given.	00:44:49
	To staff. If we reach consensus on this, feedback would be even even stronger.	00:44:53
	Would be under public protection under Crime Item F support legislation that would enhance local control over public nuisances.	00:45:00
	Including adult entertainment facilities.	00:45:10
	Problem problem alcohol establishments and properties where illegal drugs are sold.	00:45:13
	No, it would be. It would read, including, but not limited to.	00:45:19
	So adding not limited to it.	00:45:27
	Do we have that noted?	00:45:34
	To figure those things out. Is there a consensus on that recommendation?	00:45:37
	I agree with Jen.	00:45:42
	OK for.	00:45:44
	Under the Arts section.	00:45:46
	Commissioner Moody had suggested that instead of.	00:45:53
	Currently, there is only one item under the arts, which is support legislation for continued state funding that recognizes the	00:45:57
	role.	00:46:01
	Of the Sorry the role that local art activities and historic preservation have in community life.	00:46:05
	Just a recommendation that we're a little bit more expansive in that area and leave it deferred to staff on what that looks like.	00:46:12
	I agree with Commissioner Moody's recommendation and I think that, you know, adding even just as simple as arts and culture.	00:46:24
	Arts, culture and historic preservation.	00:46:33
	Could help that but and I just looking to because it's it's in the title but it's not in the the the the language of the topic so.	00:46:36
	I think if we can.	00:46:46
	Flush that out a bit more, a little more robust.	00:46:48
	All-encompassing.	00:46:56
	For arts, culture, and historic preservation.	00:47:00
	Is there any other? Yeah, just just maybe you know what what direction the city wants to go and you know, to specify that.	00:47:05
	So there's consensus around that, feedback on that item.	00:47:15
	OK. And then the item I raised, which is under general general governance.	00:47:21
	Under workers compensation, it's #2B.	00:47:28
	And it would be to.	00:47:32
	End #2B at returning to work.	00:47:35
	So striking from creating a disincentive all the way to alternative positions.	00:47:39
	There's consensus on that.	00:47:48
	Any other items, yes.	00:47:52
	Section C.	00:47:57
	Let's all support legislation that provides local government the power to determine whether anti opiate medication should be	00:48:00
	deployed in a given community.	00:48:06
	I'm sorry, can you can you refer to the reference Public protection drugs and it's part C?	00:48:13
	Page 9.	00:48:22
	9.	00:48:25
	Yes, on page line at the top, page 9 of 16 top. OK, see.	00:48:27
	What does that mean?	00:48:33
	Why? Why does the city?	00:48:36
	Trying to be doctors. I mean, I don't understand what it's trying to say.	00:48:39
	I don't know if that city manager's office or staff can speak to that. I have a.	00:48:48
	We have a theory that what that might be, yeah. I have a theory of what that might be referring to. But if the city manager.	00:48:55
	So it's not not my area of expertise. When we put the legislative platform together, we did ask all departments to review and	00:49:05
	provide there's.	00:49:09
	Given your background, you may be able to quickly correct my assumption here, but I'll throw one thing out. I know that.	00:49:14
	This is under crime and drugs and law enforcement.	00:49:21
	When police officers come into contact with people that have overdosed Narcan and other.	00:49:25
	Drugs are sometimes administered to help bring them back.	00:49:33
	This speaks to the local power to administer certain drugs. So if that falls into the category of.	00:49:37
	Anti opiate, perhaps it's referring to that.	00:49:43
	OK. But those guys are trained.	00:49:49
	Correct, yes.	00:49:51
	OK, I got you. All right. So that makes sense.	00:49:52
	To me now.	00:49:55
	On the on that item, we should perhaps have a conversation around do we?	00:49:57
	Think the city.	00:50:05
	Should be in favor in the expansion use of Narcan, for example on this item? Or are we opposing because this says that the cities?	00:50:08
	One second to support legislation.	00:50:21
	Yeah. This is that provides local. Yeah. It's so it's it's saying, hey, it's saying they have the power to yeah, I mean whether to	00:50:24
	use it or not. Excuse me over and over again.	00:50:29
	I mean essentially this is coming from the leagues of city, is my assumption right? And it's all about local control, local	00:50:34
	control, local control, every every one of these bullet points pretty much is the state is us saying.	00:50:39
	State don't tell us what to do. We want local control.	00:50:45
	Now when I see this, it's telling me.	00:50:49
	Perhaps.	00:50:53
	Do we view the opiate crisis in such a way that we're saying, hey, let's do all options on the table, or are we going to say hey	00:50:56
	no, we want local control on the use of Narcan?	00:51:01
	And I'm not sure how the Commission feels on that. I would rather be part of a regional or statewide approach.	00:51:07
	Then say hey no, we want local control on whether how we save lives.	00:51:15
	With Narcan, well, yeah.	00:51:19
	It makes sense to have the experts tell us what's good.	00:51:22
	But we didn't. CDC didn't do a hell of a good job, so.	00:51:25
	But I agree that.	00:51:30
	No, the city.	00:51:34
	If what?	00:51:39
	The city manager said is accurate.	00:51:41
	I'm sure it is. I mean that makes sense, but.	00:51:43
	For the city to decide what?	00:51:47
	Is medically.	00:51:49
	Good or bad for these opiate computers?	00:51:51
	I mean that's.	00:51:55
	Not doctors.	00:51:56
	To the conversation that the Commission is having, I'll just add there's nobody in the city that considers themselves a medical	00:51:58
	expert. Those decisions on whether to administer and use would be based on best practice on.	00:52:04
	Medical journals, medical publications, and studies that suggest that it is or is not an effective tool.	00:52:11
	And you're right, Chair, it is really about local control, the city being able to research, gather data and make those decisions	00:52:17
	rather than.	00:52:21
	Be told by another agency whether it should or should not use those.	00:52:25
	I mean in general when it comes to this use.	00:52:30
	I would defer to the statewide agencies who are addressing the opiate use and and things like the California Department of Public	00:52:33
	Health and others.	00:52:37
	On how we can best deploy these life saving measures.	00:52:42
	As the city manager's office mentioned, we don't necessarily have an expert on.	00:52:46
	On Narcan and we would be referring to these same departments, so to say, kind of.	00:52:51
	I don't want to make a mountain out of mole mole hill here, but um.	00:52:57
	I'm just cautious around, especially public health and saying hey.	00:53:02
	Actually, somehow we we will know more.	00:53:06
	Then then statewide experts in Narcan.	00:53:09
	Generally, the people that administer that stuff are trained like medical personnel, they are ambulance people.	00:53:15
	And largely because officers that have this stuff are trained on it also. But it's.	00:53:23
	Usually for extreme emergencies, right? And largely regulated by the state.	00:53:28
	Correct. Right. And so.	00:53:33
	There was a movement to actually make Narcan available as broadly as possible, and so, for example, many schools in the country,	00:53:36
	or a state rather, are now being supplied with Narcan.	00:53:42
	I know in some instances municipalities are training things like individuals like front, front desk, administrative assistants and	00:53:49
	others on both like the paddles on heart attacks and Narcan.	00:53:56
	In case somebody shows up.	00:54:04
	In your lobby, who's overdosing?	00:54:06
	So we don't need to belabor this point, but I.	00:54:08
	That two point, since you brought it up, that was kind of my concern is.	00:54:11
	Especially right now with the opiate crisis so.	00:54:16
	Our communities, I think it's fine the way it's written to support legislation that provides local government the power to	00:54:19
	determine whether an anti opioid medication should be deployed.	00:54:24
	In a given community and who has the authority to administer it? So I think that the wording is actually appropriate. Well, it.	00:54:30
	Acknowledge that, Yeah, I I.	00:54:39
	My concern is it's it, it sounds like.	00:54:41
	It's positive, but it's actually about local control. It's saying we're not going to listen to the necessarily deferred to the	00:54:45
	experts at public health, at the state or statewide strategies.	00:54:49
	Where? Well, it's saying we're going to provide that local government has the power that we're going to.	00:54:54
	Decide. Somebody here at the City Hall is going to decide.	00:55:00
	Whether or not they follow best practices. Whether or not they follow.	00:55:03
	Public health guidance.	00:55:07
	And I don't know if I'm comfortable.	00:55:09
	Saying umm.	00:55:11
	That we're going to just oppose any kind of.	00:55:15
	Recommended guidance from the state.	00:55:18
	Again, I don't want to belabor the point, but in general that's where I see this contrast between local control.	00:55:21
	And things like, hey, we need to save lives. Why are we saying hey, keep, stay, stay out of our backyard, let us can decide	00:55:27
	whether or not and how we save lives.	00:55:31
	The way I'm reading this.	00:55:37
	Is that they're wanting?	00:55:40
	To be able to.	00:55:44
	Use an anti opiate medication.	00:55:46
	Maybe it should be should say should be deployed in a given situation.	00:55:52
	And set a.	00:55:59
	Yeah, because even where it says given, community seems kind of problematic to me, right? We're going to decide that when you mean	00:56:01
	Bay is not going to get, it should probably say should be deployed in a given situation.	00:56:07
	And who has the authority to administer it?	00:56:15
	I understand where they're going with this, yeah.	00:56:18
	I have a medical background.	00:56:22
	So they're wanting to say.	00:56:24
	We want the power to administer.	00:56:28
	One of these drugs, if we need to.	00:56:32
	But when it says in a given community, that's that's a broadband.	00:56:36
	It should say get in a given situation.	00:56:42
	I'll second that.	00:56:47
	Any other commissioners comments on that?	00:56:50
	Maybe we add some language in there with regards to the science.	00:56:56
	Based on science.	00:57:01
	The most recent science based knowledge and learnings that we can.	00:57:03
	Determine as the best practices. Just something simple like that, OK?	00:57:09
	Including some.	00:57:14
	I mean, you have to use discretion, you have to use common sense. But you, you know, using science as the.	00:57:17
	As the, as the.	00:57:24
	Navigational tool to get us where we need to be? Yeah. Scientific guidance, right?	00:57:25
	OK. Any other? I think we're getting close to consensus on this item. Any other feedback?	00:57:32
	I just want to thank you, Commissioner, for bringing up this item, and it sounds like we've reached consensus on this, at least	00:57:39
	providing some feedback.	00:57:42
	There any other any other feedback on this platform?	00:57:46
	OK, let me find my little CHEAT SHEET here.	00:57:51
	OK, so.	00:58:02
	Just in summary of the recommended changes that we've reached consensus on, we're about to do a motion on all of them together.	00:58:04
	Would be crime.	00:58:12
	Having to do with the more expansive language.	00:58:14
	The Arts section having more specifics.	00:58:17
	The item having to do with workers compensation removing and striking the section of the sentence having to do with creating a.	00:58:22
	Disincentive all the way through the remainder of that sentence. That's number.	00:58:29
	To be under general governance.	00:58:34
	And then under crime.	00:58:37
	Excuse me, under public protection?	00:58:40
	Under Section 2, which is drugs.	00:58:43
	Striking the the section of the sentence referring to a given community and instead say a given situation, right?	00:58:48
	And then adding some language they're having to do with following.	00:58:56
	Guidance. Medical scientific guidance.	00:59:00
	OK. Is that clear for staff?	00:59:03
	Is there a motion to approve those recommendations? I make a motion to approve those.	00:59:07
	OK. Is there a second? I'll second it. OK, there is a second.	00:59:13
	OK. All those in favor, say aye.	00:59:20
	Aye, aye. Any opposed?	00:59:22
	OK. That item is adopted.	00:59:26
	Excuse me, those recommendations are made to staff.	00:59:28
	OK, now we are going to make a little bit of an exception here.	00:59:33
	We are now going to briefly return to public comment.	00:59:37
	And just because we we had overlooked an individual who wanted to speak.	00:59:43
	On an item and while we have already.	00:59:47
	Addressed item 5, which is the update on the Heroes heritage and.	00:59:52
	Policy. I would like to just briefly give that an opportunity for the member of the public that wanted to address that item.	00:59:56
	As a reminder, we can't enter into a discussion because we've already handled that item, but if that individual wanted to come	01:00:02
	forward and give public comment.	01:00:06
	I believe they have 3 minutes.	01:00:10
	Thank you, take 3 minutes, but first of all.	01:00:12
	Chairperson.	01:00:17
	Members of the committee and staff.	01:00:19
	My name is Tom King. I'm a resident. Poor way. Nimi been here for.	01:00:23
	Over 20 years.	01:00:27
	My comment has to do.	01:00:31
	And I really want to appreciate what the chair has said, Mr. Moody said.	01:00:34
	And what?	01:00:38
	Committee member Burke has said in regards to flushing out certain language about the monument.	01:00:42
	And what the port is doing?	01:00:48
	And you've been wrestling with language.	01:00:51
	And so getting to the point which is in flushing out particular issue.	01:00:55
	Umm, myself And certainly people that I'm very familiar with.	01:01:02
	Have the highest regard for the Bart family, certainly the city.	01:01:10
	And people that are working with the city's.	01:01:13
	And like yourselves, committee doing the hard work, work that a lot of people apparently don't see.	01:01:18
	So I'm sorry about that.	01:01:25
	But I wanted to speak because it has to do with the survey.	01:01:27
	The survey has been proposed, has been postponed, I guess in regards to the language and some of the.	01:01:32
	Meat of the survey.	01:01:42
	What is concerning to me, and I wanted to bring it to the attention of the committee, so there's nothing to decide.	01:01:45
	But apparently.	01:01:52
	Why Nimi Wharf?	01:01:53
	And the Flood Plaza is no longer that.	01:01:56
	According to the draft of the port.	01:01:58
	That was published March 18. It's the Bard Wharf and Flag Plaza.	01:02:03
	Apparently Bubbling Springs Park is not Bubbling Springs Park, but is, at least according to this draft.	01:02:10
	Richard Bart. Bubbling Springs Park.	01:02:19
	Perhaps I missed the meeting.	01:02:23
	Where this was approved by the city.	01:02:25
	But it occurs to me that.	01:02:28
	What I have here is a published document. It's a draft.	01:02:32
	But if we're going to parse out words.	01:02:37
	And language.	01:02:41
	It's pretty biased.	01:02:43
	And if you were doing a survey where you wanted independent?	01:02:45
	Judgment, Spirit of the community.	01:02:50
	I just would argue.	01:02:54
	This, in terms of appearances, seems biased to me.	01:02:57
	And I can tell you there's a concerted group that would be against the placement of this monument.	01:03:01
	At the Flag Plaza.	01:03:07
	And I made about 3 minutes, but thank you for the opportunity to speak. Thank you. Thank you for your public comment. And I know	01:03:10
	staff was taking some notes there. And we appreciate your public comment. Thank you.	01:03:16
	So we're now going to move to staff comments. This is an opportunity for the staff to provide any comments or reminders that they	01:03:24
	have for the commissioners.	01:03:28
	I only had one comment to make this afternoon. I don't know if anybody was able to attend, but I.	01:03:34
	Since we last met, we did hold our Run For Your Heart 5K event down at the beach.	01:03:42
	That was an item that this Commission had the opportunity to review the plan for and was ultimately approved.	01:03:50
	The special use permit was approved by the City Council for that, and I just wanted to share. We had between 5 and 600	01:03:57
	participants we had a Wellness fair with.	01:04:01
	A dozen service providers providing various services to members of our community and overall it was generally a very successful	01:04:06
	event, so just wanted to.	01:04:10
	Thank you for your review and your input about that event, and in case you didn't get a chance, I just want to let everybody know	01:04:15
	that.	01:04:18
	It was a it was a great success and we look forward to.	01:04:22
	Hosting another one and as a reminder, that was through the Community Benefit Fund and was in partnership.	01:04:25
	With the Oxnard Harbor district, So we look forward to more partnerships with community benefit funds in the future.	01:04:31
	Thank you. Thank you. Want to make a comment on that if I may. That was I I got to watch it and it was it was lovely and I got to	01:04:39
	watch it from my my home and I saw.	01:04:43
	All kinds of crazy outfits during the run, even even tutus, which was really funny.	01:04:49
	But it was I was, I was surprised how many people showed up for that. That was a wildly successful event. So thank you for for	01:04:55
	putting that on.	01:04:59
	Any other staff updates or reminders?	01:05:06
	OK, we're now going to move to commissioner comments. This is the time for the commissioners to provide any general comments.	01:05:09
	We can't enter into discussion on specific items, but any general comments they have.	01:05:16
	As well, of course, you can always reach out to staff. Are there any commissioner comments?	01:05:22
	Just a quick comment, I just I found out today that.	01:05:27
	Grocery Outlet is opening next week.	01:05:31
	And they have a $1000 grocery giveaway for people that sign up on Facebook.	01:05:34
	So I'm excited to finally have a grocery store in our backyard and and I hope everyone will go out and support.	01:05:40
	Grocery Outlet, it's such a wonderful thing to have something close by that we can all.	01:05:48
	Participate in and it's a great step forward for our economic development for our city.	01:05:54
	Any other Commissioner comments, Commissioner Moody?	01:06:02
	Yeah, if you're.	01:06:04
	Over by the high school.	01:06:07
	And you're on C St.	01:06:09
	And you're driving down. Take a look up at the tennis courts. We have a really cool banner from the port.	01:06:11
	Working with Adam Vega.	01:06:19
	Who's been supporting our?	01:06:22
	Viking tennis down there and.	01:06:25
	It's just really cool, you know? The kids are really jazzed.	01:06:28
	You know, they've taken a real sense of pride, Mr. Vega came over to the school.	01:06:33
	And did a presentation.	01:06:38
	For both teams.	01:06:40
	Brought a bunch of swag just like Mr. Miguel has on with the logo right there. Brought all the kids hats and.	01:06:43
	You know, we took a lot of pictures and stuff and it was.	01:06:50
	And it was just really cool.	01:06:56
	I feel good every time I drive down C St. and I see the banner it says.	01:06:59
	Port Away Nimi supports biking, tennis.	01:07:03
	And I just think that's really cool. You know, and.	01:07:07
	Kudos to your organization, you know.	01:07:10
	We are grateful, you know, on behalf of the kids.	01:07:12
	You know, they walk around with the beanies on and.	01:07:15
	The hats on, you know and it's.	01:07:18
	They feel good, you know. So thanks very much for listening to me.	01:07:20
	Thank you, Commissioner Moody. Any other?	01:07:24
	Comments from a commissioners.	01:07:26
	I just want to really appreciate staff.	01:07:32
	Putting this all of course, this agenda together, all of our other work we've done in the the last six months or so, the	01:07:36
	Commission has been more active than it's ever been and so this is.	01:07:41
	What although another step in this kind of process for all of these items, I think it's a meaningful 1.	01:07:48
	I know the city's also been improving, or rather expanding its communications online on its website.	01:07:55
	And that's a big deal. I know that takes staff time and it's it's important.	01:08:02
	As well as.	01:08:07
	I know we're kind of navigating on certain times right now.	01:08:08
	As far as state funding, we have state proposition one that passed that's going to have impacts in our city.	01:08:12
	The state budget deficit is going to have an impact in our city and so that's very unknown time for our staff to navigate what	01:08:18
	exactly our budget is going to look like. And so I just want to appreciate them and and their wisdom as we navigate these kind of.	01:08:25
	Possibly difficult times that our city will be having, hopefully not where weather the storm.	01:08:32
	Finally, I just want to acknowledge. So our next meeting is in July, so I just want to.	01:08:38
	Encourage everybody and to continue to attend our community events both in the City of Winemie and an Oxnard and county wide.	01:08:42
	In June, we will have the Juneteenth Festival in downtown Oxnard. There will also be Oxnard Pride and that's going to be a	01:08:51
	wonderful that of course includes Port Hueneme. It's our LGBTQ plus Pride event in June. And so I really encourage everyone to	01:08:57
	participate in those and any other community events that we have.	01:09:04
	Coming up.	01:09:12
	With.	01:09:13
	Our next regular meeting of the Citizen Advisory Commission is Monday.	01:09:15
	July 8th at 4:00 PM.	01:09:19
	And with that, the meeting is now adjourned. The time is 509. Thank you everyone, and thank you to the commissioners and the	01:09:22
	members of the public that are here. And of course, thank you to our fabulous staff. Thank you so much.	01:09:27