CALL TO ORDER / ROLL CALL 

PUBLIC COMMENT
PRESENTATIONS – None.
CONSENT CALENDAR
BUSINESS ITEMS

2.   2. Heroes, History and Heritage Policy Nomination – Richard Bard Monument

3. Continued Item: After Action Report – Hueneme Beach Festival

STAFF COMMENTS
COMMISSIONERS COMMENTS
ADJOURNMENT
Welcome to the Citizen Advisory Commission Board meeting. I would like to call this meeting to order. The time is now 6. 00:01:42
Madam Clerk, could you please take the role? 00:01:52
Commissioner. 00:01:56
Commissioner Moody. 00:01:58
Commissioner Sanchez. 00:02:00
Vice chair of. 00:02:03
Present and chair Bruning. 00:02:04
Do we have any public comments at this time? 00:02:10
No general public comments. 00:02:15
OK. 00:02:17
We have no presentations. 00:02:19
We will now consider items on the consent calendar, which will be enacted in one motion unless a commissioner has a request to 00:02:22
remove an item for discussion. 00:02:27
May I have a motion and a second to approve the consent calendar? 00:02:32
Move to Approve I. 00:02:39
All in favor. 00:02:42
Aye, aye. 00:02:44
All those opposed. 00:02:47
This motion is passed. 00:02:51
OK. 00:03:00
Business I first business item is. 00:03:02
History and Heritage policy Nomination, Richard Bard Monument. 00:03:05
Recommendation is to review the applications submitted by the Oxnard Harbor District. 00:03:10
To construct and install a Richard Ward monument. 00:03:16
On city property and make a recommendation to City Council. 00:03:20
Will staff please present the report? 00:03:24
Thank you, Madam Chair. As indicated, item number two on the agenda pertains to an application of the Heroes History and Heritage 00:03:29
policy submitted by the Oxnard Harbor District. The application seeks to honor Richard Bard with a public monument on city 00:03:34
property. 00:03:38
As noted in the staff report, each year the city and the Oxnard Harbor district meet to review project ideas to be funded with the 00:03:46
Community Benefit Fund monies. 00:03:50
For the last few years a multi phased public monument project with phase one consisting of a Richard Bart statue has been 00:03:54
discussed by both agencies. 00:03:58
The city's initial approval action for phase. 00:04:04
Approved $50,000 and indicated that final project details would be determined through the Hero's History Heritage Policy 00:04:07
application process. 00:04:11
There have been two additional allocations from the community benefit. 00:04:16
$30,000, which council approved November of 2022. 00:04:20
An additional $40,000, which is approved by council last Monday. 00:04:24
The subject application has been screened by staff and is here now presented to the CAC for your review. 00:04:28
As a quick summary. 00:04:37
And I should note as I go into this, the the applicant is here and has a presentation is prepared to give that after I complete my 00:04:39
brief presentation. 00:04:42
But by way of quick summary, the Oxnard Harbor District is proposing to install a bronze statue of Richard Bard in the center of 00:04:47
the Wharf Plaza. 00:04:51
The statue weighs approximately £1000. It stands 7 feet tall and would sit atop A4 foot pedestal. 00:04:56
The district reports that the cost of construction and installation is estimated. 00:05:03
$97,374. 00:05:08
District will be responsible for all ongoing maintenance of the monument. 00:05:11
And it's important to note that lastly, the. 00:05:15
Proposal is that. 00:05:18
Installation of commemorative plaques on the monument, noting Richard Bard's various accomplishments, would be installed at a 00:05:20
later date. 00:05:24
O Here are some photos, different views N SE West of the proposed location for your review. Again, the center of The Wharf Plaza, 00:05:30
which is adjacent to the intersection of Surfside and Market. 00:05:36
And then in conclusion, CAC is charged with reviewing the application, considering the relevant data and making an advisory 00:05:46
recommendation to the council. 00:05:50
Relevant data includes a review of the nominees record, its accomplishments, alignment with the naming standards, and the policy 00:05:55
appropriateness of the proposed location in an accounting of the project costs. 00:06:00
I should also note that in the application it's noted that the district would be responsible or wishes to and would be responsible 00:06:06
for the cost associated with a ribbon cutting ceremony. 00:06:10
So that concludes the brief staff presentation. And again, Miguel Rodriguez from the Port is here. And if it's the commission's 00:06:16
pleasure, I can have him provide the presentation. 00:06:21
Welcome. 00:06:37
I think a lot of it was covered in the staff report. Again, commissioners, thank you for the opportunity to be here and present 00:06:44
this project that was proposed by both the City Council and members of the committee of actually members of the committee on CBF 00:06:51
or both the Wyndham City Council as well as the Oxford Harbor Commission. So my name is Miguel Rodriguez, I'm the community 00:06:58
average manager for the park and and I'm here to present to you. 00:07:06
More a little bit more of the vision and the specifics of this particular project. 00:07:13
We're gonna move to the next slide, please. 00:07:18
OK, it's right here. All right, awesome. 00:07:21
Oh, there it is. OK. 00:07:28
Again, just to reiterate the the location is at the Winami Wharf Plaza. A lot of the determination for that particular location as 00:07:29
a setting is due to its proximity to the port entrance as well as the original Bardsworth location which actually stemmed from 00:07:37
that particular. 00:07:45
Place. And so this is not only to commemorate Mr. Richard Bard, right, but also that particular. 00:07:54
Contribution right to this community, which has yielded some of the most, probably the most significant economic engine that has 00:08:03
been, has been in existence in Ventura County as Mr. Perez. 00:08:10
You got to write, Mr. Fritz said, Or mentioned, Actually the statute would be 11 feet high, which would be 7 feet tall, as well as 00:08:18
a four foot pedestal. 00:08:24
And here's a little bit more of like the actual sculture would be Mr. Richard Bart holding the the shovel. And so just in terms of 00:08:32
reference of like a regular person's about 5857 and so the the statue would be above the. 00:08:40
The the regular person's stature, right? Just to give it more significance and and also for impact as well. 00:08:50
In terms of the timeline, we submitted white papers to the CBF committee in February of 2022. 00:08:58
Throughout February to June of 2022, I did a very extensive background check along with some of the interns at the port. We looked 00:09:05
through a lot of the archives, both at the Ventura County Museum as well as the University here Channel Islands. We started the 00:09:13
preparation of the application in June of 2022 and then from there we did an artist search. 00:09:21
We commissioned an artist who had been tasked with this as well. As you know, throughout the timeline, you can see that it was 00:09:30
originally intended to be brought and installed by the 150th year celebration of Ventura County. Unfortunately, we missed that 00:09:37
particular deadline because of this requirement for this particular review. But however that also gives us an opportunity to, you 00:09:45
know, continue through this process. 00:09:53
Formally and also to ensure that there is continuity as well as that we go through the appropriate channels to to execute this. 00:10:01
An just finally, this is more or less what the statue is looking like. They haven't stood it up yet because they weigh so much, so 00:10:13
they're refining a lot of the details. But it's a youthful Richard Bard with a dream. There is a book called The Troubled Dream 00:10:21
that it pretty much depicts a lot of the history behind Richard Bard's vision. The concrete pedestal. As you could see in the 00:10:29
details, it would need a 2 foot anchor as well as a four foot in height. So it would probably be about. 00:10:37
The size of the podium as well. 00:10:45
And sculpture would be anchored to the podium because it's about 1000, a £1000 in weight so. 00:10:47
That pretty much. 00:10:55
It's into perspective the project. I'd be happy to entertain any questions regarding the application as well. 00:10:56
And you have in your packets the application that was submitted. 00:11:03
Does the Commission have any questions for? 00:11:07
Only questions will be taken at this time. Comments and discussion will be heard later. 00:11:10
One question, did you have other locations that you considered for this pistachio as well? 00:11:24
This particular project was considered by both the City Council committee and the Port Committee, and during this particular 00:11:31
process, a location which was identified there was the one that was pretty much agreed upon by both bodies. 00:11:40
Yeah. But that my question is did you also have other locations you were considering there were other locations that were 00:11:49
considered for other monuments? 00:11:53
For example, this is part of part one of a three-part process where there will be a monument. 00:11:58
For the Seabees, as well as one more monument for the Chumash. Whether those are installed, you know, at the same time or at 00:12:07
different times depends on on the allocation of the funding from both committees as well. But. 00:12:14
That is the vision. The other locations that were identified were submitted to the joint committee through a white paper back in 00:12:21
2022, but this is the location that was identified for Mr. Bard's monument. 00:12:29
So that's interesting. I didn't know about the other statues or monuments that you were considering. It's just and the only reason 00:12:38
I'm asking is that that is one of the questions that came up a lot about, well, what about other locations? And so we'll talk more 00:12:44
about that. I just curious if you had other locations that you would consider? 00:12:49
Did you have a question? 00:12:58
Umm. 00:13:01
I'll speak to you a little bit more during deliberation. 00:13:03
Are there any public comments on this? 00:13:08
I have two written public comments. 00:13:13
And start the first one. Hello. We thank you for your efforts to keep Port Hueneme beautiful. We would like to request that you do 00:13:19
not put up a statue in the flagpole location. It is one of the most naturally beautiful locations in Port Hueneme and many come to 00:13:25
watch the sunset in the evenings. We feel that a statue will only distract from that beauty. Maybe a more appropriate location 00:13:32
would be near the Port Wyoming Museum. Thank you so much for your consideration. The Babbitt family. 00:13:39
And the next one is. 00:13:47
In regards to the Bard statue, no. Should be in a park with greenery. Note this may be a duplicate vote. Sorry. 00:13:49
That was from Patricia Witt Tree. 00:13:57
That concludes the written public comments. 00:14:00
And we're going to call up some in person public comments right now. 00:14:04
Miss Rooney, would you like to go first? 00:14:19
Oh, oh. Mr. 00:14:21
Good evening. 00:14:32
I'm happy to be here. 00:14:36
And I'm hoping for good results as far as Richard Bard's statue is concerned. 00:14:38
As someone who has worked on the waterfront. 00:14:43
My whole life, 52 years on the waterfront and 34 years as a harbor Commission. 00:14:45
It has always been my dream to honor the man who built this port. 00:14:51
And the values that he had, I think are very important for us to keep in mind. 00:14:55
Thomas Bart who built the the. 00:15:01
He built that Wharf, I think, initially at 700 feet, then he had to double it to 1400 feet, then he had to double it to or triple 00:15:05
it to 2100 feet because. 00:15:09
It was so necessary at that time to have trade here on the water. 00:15:13
And one thing led to another. 00:15:17
And Thomas in a letter that you that his public. 00:15:19
He basically says to Richard listen. 00:15:23
We we're blessed to be wealthy. 00:15:26
And we should do something with our philanthropy. 00:15:30
We should do something that would raise up the living conditions of every man, regardless of his current condition. 00:15:33
That was basically the Causeway of the letter, and he wanted to build something a civic entity. 00:15:40
That would, for generation after generation, provide opportunity and prosperity for our community. 00:15:46
Those were the values that those two men. 00:15:51
That's the reason that port. 00:15:54
Also as you know. 00:15:56
When he when he started to build it and was almost complete, World War 2 broke out. 00:15:59
So the United States. 00:16:05
And Admiral Ben. 00:16:07
Do not have enough longshoremen. 00:16:10
Or didn't have really any longshoremen to supply the Seabees in the Pacific. 00:16:13
So he went to Harry Bridges, Who was the coast? Big coast leader, Pacific West Coast leader. 00:16:17
And said we need longshoremen to supply our Seabees in the PAC. 00:16:23
Harry Bridges said. Yes, let's win the war. 00:16:28
And that's why that longshore local has been there all of these years. 00:16:31
To supply the Navy, and we have the longshoremen rather. 00:16:36
Have been active in every. 00:16:40
Since World War 2, every police action since World War. 00:16:43
Everything that has made the commercial port stronger has also made our United States Navy stronger. 00:16:47
All the equipment that we have, all the manpower that we have goes to the United States Navy in time of national emergency. 00:16:53
And that's the type of synergy and cooperation that we have between the two entities that are there. 00:17:00
And you have to think. 00:17:06
Well, let me go back I think a little bit during World War 2. 00:17:08
It came out in a national magazine that said that the United States Navy had gotten the most efficient harbor in the world. 00:17:12
To fight during the World War 2. 00:17:19
And that's been the type of board it's been ever since then. It's it has broken every record of tonnage and everything else for 00:17:22
supplying our military in. 00:17:26
Oh, am I done? 00:17:32
Why don't you let me complain, you know. 00:17:41
So. 00:17:45
What I'm trying to say is that, you know, here we have an individual who is considered one of no Ventura County's leading citizen 00:17:46
because of what he did for this community. 00:17:51
Now the city of Hueneme and the port have. 00:17:56
An agreement. 00:18:00
That when the port makes money, the city makes. 00:18:01
For years we've been providing the city with thousands and thousands of dollars, actually millions now of dollars that come from 00:18:05
the port. 00:18:08
And the port would not be there without Richard Bard. So at one time or another in your lifetime, you got to recognize the person 00:18:11
who was responsible for this. Not $1.00 of public money was used to build that port. Not $1.00 of public money is used to run that 00:18:17
port. It is self-sufficient. It is. It is the most. 00:18:23
It is the biggest economic engine in Ventura County and it happens to be right in your backyard and you're getting all of the 00:18:30
benefits that it provides. 00:18:34
All of the benefits it provides and all that we're asking. 00:18:39
Is recognize the guy that did it. 00:18:43
You have recognition that do recognition to the individual that did this, that has provided millions of dollars, thousands of. 00:18:46
You know, there was thousands and thousands of people working during Vietnam here, also during World War 2 and every other police 00:18:54
action and war that's that's transpired. 00:18:58
You can't take that away from him. You can't ignore what he did. 00:19:03
He has provided opportunity and prosperity for thousands of people in this. 00:19:08
And. 00:19:14
If you will look at the GDP, the Gross domestic product of Ventura. 00:19:15
The only reason, the only reason that it has gone up and not down, is because of what the portaway name is providing to this 00:19:20
county. 00:19:25
Every city in this county receives millions of dollars. 00:19:30
Due to the. 00:19:34
The 2.2 billion and more that the port does provides millions of tax dollars to every city, to Oxnard, to you guys, everybody. 00:19:36
I mean, how do you, how do you say, well, I'm going to ignore that guy, He didn't exist, you know? 00:19:46
You got it. 00:19:50
Recognize that individual what he did. 00:19:53
He. 00:19:55
A tremendous thing for us. 00:19:56
A tremendous thing for me. Tremendous thing for you. Same thing. 00:19:58
If you go and look at your records at the amount of money that the port has provided over the years. 00:20:02
You know, and this guy would not only that, he was a hero. 00:20:07
He was a three time veteran. 00:20:10
Served in three wars. 00:20:12
Unbelievable. 00:20:14
Dec. 00:20:16
You know you just can't ignore something like that, and I beg you not to. 00:20:17
Ignore it, I beg you. 00:20:22
I I'd get on my knees because that man deserves our recognition. 00:20:24
He did so much for this community and this county. 00:20:29
He deserves it. We just cannot deny it to him. 00:20:32
You know, I could go on and on about all the things that that he's responsible for. You know, we have a huge agreement with you 00:20:36
guys that goes on for years and years providing money. You also. 00:20:41
It's just I'm so assionate about this and I just kind of get lost in the weeds. 00:20:48
But it's just something that time. 00:20:53
You know it's time has. 00:20:55
Its time has come that we recognize. 00:20:58
And you know, we've talked to your City Council and they've. 00:21:01
And we basically on the same page about this whole thing, about maintaining it, keeping it clean. 00:21:05
And the location of it is, I think, appropriate. 00:21:12
Don't forget that we we did the break. 00:21:15
We fixed that up, We did the promenade, put it there. There's even a plaque there at that at that point, entering the promenade 00:21:18
talking about how the Port of Winemie did that for the community. 00:21:23
How many people take that walk, you know, every day? Probably. You know dozens and enjoy it. 00:21:29
And that's why they'll walk by there and also see the statue of Richard. 00:21:34
You know, the portaway Nimi has always been a right spot on the horizon for this county, and it will continue to be. 00:21:39
But it will never, ever get the recognition it needs unless we get the support of people like yourselves. 00:21:45
At the commencement when Richard Bart stuck the shovel in. 00:21:51
He. 00:21:54
The people of this community to thank for this. 00:21:57
Because they believed in him and they supported him at that time. 00:22:02
The City of Vent. 00:22:06
Was crying for this port. 00:22:07
They were raising money to get a bond issue going so they could have the port in vent. 00:22:09
Now where would you be if they would have put that in Ventura? 00:22:15
You would not be getting the damn penny like you are now, you know. And what happened this? The city of Oxnard stood up. 00:22:18
And their Chambers of Commerce and said no, no, no, we're going to raise money too. We're not going to allow this to go to 00:22:27
Ventura. 00:22:30
So they fought to keep it here. 00:22:33
And lucky for us, I would never have been a Commissioner. 00:22:35
You know, we would never have. 00:22:38
Great. Great opportunity here to recognize this individual. 00:22:41
You know sometimes you got to dig deep and look in your your own heart. You know if. 00:22:46
You had a relative that had done all that you certainly want him to recognize. 00:22:50
You know. 00:22:55
I'm going to ask you to. 00:22:56
You know, think outside the box. 00:22:59
Understand how important this is going to be. 00:23:01
And it actually, I have another vision. You know, the port of winemia has always been a port of dreams. I said it was a dream to 00:23:04
to Richard Bart. It's been a dream to us to continue to keep it in good shape. 00:23:09
And provide economic vitality for our community. 00:23:14
But the other dream is that more things can be done. 00:23:18
More jobs can be created. We're not going to stop where we are right now. 25,000 jobs and building. 00:23:22
Millions of dollars for our community. We're not going to stop. 00:23:28
Today I went to what they call Aceo Round. 00:23:31
And you know. 00:23:35
All those ce. 00:23:36
Want to do what we're doing, but they can't do it. They they're not providing the type of venue that we have. They're not 00:23:38
providing the type of money that we are providing for our communities. They're not providing the type of jobs that we're providing 00:23:44
for our communities. We have family sustaining jobs and why we call them that is because it's a good wage, a living wage, and not 00:23:51
only that, guess what, It comes with good medical benefits. That's family sustaining. 00:23:57
And. 00:24:03
In a county where we have over 30,000 people living in poverty, one in four children going hungry. 00:24:05
Our job is to break those numbers down and continue providing those families sustaining jobs. That's what we want to do. Those are 00:24:12
the values that Richard and Thomas Bart had. Those were their values. 00:24:18
Opportunity and prosperity. And we live by those values. And I'm very proud that we have harbor commissioners that believe in 00:24:24
that, in harbor commissioners that will stick their neck out to get those things done for our community. Before we do anything, 00:24:31
first we think about the impact to our community. Will it impact the environment? Will it impact the roads, whatever it may be. 00:24:38
But I appreciate you listening to me and I just, I just can't tell you it's just it is the equitable thing to do. 00:24:46
It is the equitable thing to. 00:24:53
To honor this man in that. 00:24:56
Because it's going to help your city. 00:24:58
My dream is for your city to improve its museum and we'll help you improve your museum. My dream is for you to have availability 00:25:01
to the CB Museum. 00:25:05
So that what you do now, but I want you to have that. I want you to have the museum updated. 00:25:10
I want you to have that statue, and then I want you to have the Bard. 00:25:15
I want you to have the Bard Mansion as a place that your community can go and enjoy themselves. Have dinner, have lunch, and 00:25:20
that's my dream and I'm not going to give that dream up easily. 00:25:24
And hopefully someday I'm going to be standing here telling you, guess what, I just went to Washington and we got it going. 00:25:29
And we basically did. I was in Washington about two weeks. 00:25:35
And I talked to the Department of the Navy and I said, listen, we need to get some of that stuff back that we lost during the war 00:25:39
for our community, including the Bard Mansion. 00:25:43
You know what he said to me? 00:25:47
You know what, Jess? You're. 00:25:49
And so that's going to be my dream to work for that, give it to. 00:25:53
And your people and your community. 00:25:57
And if you have any questions for me, I know I've been long winded and you've been very kind to listen. 00:26:00
But. 00:26:06
The port has been very long winded too. It's been there a long time. It's been there for 80 years, almost 90, providing those 00:26:07
jobs, providing those benefits. 00:26:11
Do you know that? 00:26:17
Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Herrera. 00:26:19
Put me into, put me in jail, Put me in jail. One last thing you know. 00:26:22
When the poverty here in Oxnard was very, very low, you know what the port did? They went to the. 00:26:27
Employment development, Martin and said give us all the people that are on unemployment, we are going to put them to work. So 00:26:33
every week we got a list from the unemployment department, the EDD, they came to the court and they went to work, they got off the 00:26:38
public dole and they were earning real money. That's the kind of things that this board brings to this community. Please don't 00:26:44
ever forget that. Thank you. 00:26:49
Mary Ann. 00:27:00
How much time do I have? 00:27:02
3 minutes. OK. Thank you. I'll stay within 3 minutes. Thank you very much, honorable commissioners. My honor to be here tonight. 00:27:04
I'm a commissioner at the Port of Winemie. I just wanted to give you a little context of some of the language that was in the 00:27:09
presentation. You may or may not know about that. 00:27:14
The Community Benefit Fund was originally designed so that the Board of the Harbor Commissioners and the City Council members 00:27:19
could work together. 00:27:23
On projects that benefited the city and benefited the port. And this was supposed to be a fun process that we could come up with 00:27:28
ideas and wonderful things to work together on. 00:27:33
And So what came out of that in fiscal year 2021 was the idea of putting monuments, putting permanent fixtures in your community 00:27:38
that honored and celebrated all of the people who supported. 00:27:45
Both the port and the city of Winemie. And so that's where this monument idea came about originally was three years ago we started 00:27:52
talking about it. 00:27:56
The process goes through. 00:28:01
Board of Harbor Commissioners goes through the City Council. We get together, our two representatives come together to talk about 00:28:05
everything and then go back to our respective boards, flush it all out, talk about it again, get back together again and come up 00:28:11
with a with a collaborative decision. 00:28:16
And so that's where this monument came about and location wise there were multiple locations that were discussed. 00:28:22
Through both boards and both committees it came up with this was probably going to be the best location. And so all that started. 00:28:30
Prior to the process that we're going through this evening. So we we've been kind of working through all this and then. 00:28:39
While we're the applicant, it really is both agencies are asking for approval of this. We just happen to be the ones that 00:28:47
submitted the paperwork. But the city and the Harbor District have been working together as part of this process. So I I think 00:28:54
that that might be helpful. You know, as you deliberate, I agree with Commissioner Herrera that it is a. 00:29:02
Time for us to honor the people that help both of our our agencies and both the city and the port. And we do have one of the 00:29:11
representatives of the family, the Bird family, here with us tonight who has been very passionate about recognizing his family 00:29:18
legacy too. So he's with us here tonight. So I ask you to ask questions. 00:29:25
And and improve that this moves forward to the City Council and I hope that you give the recommendation for it to move forward. 00:29:33
Thank you very much. 00:29:37
Joan. 00:29:44
Good evening, Chair, Vice Chair and Commissioners. I appreciate the gentleman's passion about the statue, and I hope he supports 00:29:50
the Chumash statue as. 00:29:54
As passionately as this one. 00:29:59
Don't disagree about having a monument to Mr. Bard. I do disagree with the location. I think that it should be located either at 00:30:03
the museum as was mentioned earlier, or perhaps at one of the port buildings. 00:30:10
I don't think that the location of that location considering how big this statue is, is. 00:30:18
Really quite appropriate. 00:30:27
I also don't know that the citizenry has had enough information to weigh in on this. 00:30:29
I just learned about this and that's my fault, but I do hope you consider. 00:30:36
Very carefully the location, not the not the installation of the statue because I think that's a good monument, but the location I 00:30:42
don't think is is appropriate. Thank you. 00:30:47
Steven. 00:30:55
Thank you for having me and letting me speak. 00:31:01
My name is Steven Gama. I'm here as a resident. I live very close to here. I work at the port of Winemie. 00:31:04
And I love working at the Port of Miami. And I agree with many of. 00:31:11
Commissioner Herrera has said, although I missed half of the statement because the notice said 6:30. 00:31:16
That I saw. 00:31:23
On Facebook, did they say 630? 00:31:25
OK anyways. 00:31:30
So a couple weeks ago or maybe not too long ago. 00:31:32
Responsibility is to escort non twick card holders into the. 00:31:37
You know, it's up there a week, maybe two weeks ago, I'm not sure. And they were. 00:31:41
Taking all these trees out and I said no, this is what must be where the statue is gonna go. It's a perfect spot and it really is 00:31:46
a perfect spot. 00:31:50
And. 00:31:54
Come to find out. 00:31:56
I hear it's an 11 foot statue and it's going to go down at the beach. 00:31:58
And I think. 00:32:03
Kind of like your neighbor buying a statue and saying can I put it in your front yard? 00:32:05
I mean, I think the statue. 00:32:10
Import. 00:32:14
But I think it needs to be put on the port property. 00:32:15
You know there's a. 00:32:20
Big time surfer named Butch Towers and if somebody proposed to put a statue of him down on the beach, I think there would be 00:32:21
overwhelming support of it. 00:32:25
The Bard family. 00:32:31
Road made after Lombard. 00:32:34
There's a school named after him. There's a monument to the Bard family right near the Bard Mansion. 00:32:36
And there's other. I think there's a few others. 00:32:44
Mentioned, you know, honoring the family. So I. 00:32:48
Don't have a problem with the the port spending their money on a 11 foot statue, but I think it belongs on their property and. 00:32:52
The best. 00:33:00
Fought for. It is right there at the corner of Market and. 00:33:01
And. 00:33:05
Guinea Rd. 00:33:06
With the trees being removed, I mean they they cleared the spot and it's just a beautiful spot and I think that's the perfect spot 00:33:09
for it. And so I think honoring the family with the statue is is fine. 00:33:15
I think it should just go on the port property and. 00:33:21
Beach and I do worry about some of the residents that have. 00:33:24
And the statue of that size might obstruct their views. 00:33:29
So I hope that. 00:33:33
I hope that the. 00:33:36
The. 00:33:37
Listen. 00:33:39
Put it at the entrance to the port. I think it'll serve. 00:33:40
All the hundreds and thousands of trucks and products. 00:33:45
Employees that come through to know. 00:33:49
That's a man that made this place possible. It's right here at the entrance of the port. So that's my hope. I think the beach is. 00:33:52
Should just remain the beach. Thank you. 00:34:01
That concludes the public comments for this. 00:34:06
OK, the recommendation is to receive and file this informational report. 00:34:10
May I have a motion and a second? 00:34:16
I'll make that motion. 00:34:20
I'll second. 00:34:23
All in favor. 00:34:26
No. 00:34:28
It is one point of correction. 00:34:29
Yeah, the the staff recommendation is that you receive it and make a advisory recommendation to City Council regarding the 00:34:32
dispensation of the application. 00:34:36
And then there needs to be council member or commissioner deliberation. 00:34:41
Yeah. 00:34:44
After we have a motion and a second. 00:34:47
Is there any discussion? 00:34:54
Yeah. So I'll keep mine brief because I'll probably circle back to some of this later on, but. 00:35:00
I just want to thank the port for their work on this. 00:35:06
For their patients as we go through this long process, you know it's it's. 00:35:09
It's a lot of work to work together to government entities, the community as well as the whole region, right. The Oxnard Harbor 00:35:17
district covers a whole, whole region here. So I think this is a good project. I think this location is vital, right? It is. It is 00:35:25
the epicenter of the history of the modern engagement of our economic life in this region. 00:35:33
While also recognizing that later on we're adding those other monuments to recognize, you know, both the Navy and of course the 00:35:42
Shumash history as well, so. 00:35:47
You know, those other things that certainly I I might feel different about if I was here at the beginning of the project. You 00:35:53
know, 90,000 is a lot, but it costs a lot to do almost anything these days. An 11 foot statue is a lot. I think that makes that 00:35:59
the largest statue that I've ever seen in Ventura County. 00:36:05
But that's where we're at now, right. We're further on this has been through deliberation, through communication. 00:36:12
So I would be willing and I will be supporting this. I think it's the right location. 00:36:20
I think it's important that we see both murals and art and statues that tell our history, right? You know, history is the stories 00:36:26
we tell ourselves and we often forget that that's what it is, right? It's how we remind ourselves. And I think this is an 00:36:32
interesting. 00:36:38
Monument. And that it's also telling the ongoing story, right? It's not just about the impact. 00:36:45
That one man and one family had, it's about the impact that continues to live through the port. 00:36:51
In one of the public commenters commented about how you know it might as well be on port property. Well, I think this this talks 00:36:57
to our community history where it is now being proposed. 00:37:02
It is all of our history. It's not just. 00:37:08
The story of the port or some kind of decorative, self grandizing piece, right? It's our history. And so I really, I encourage us 00:37:11
to view it that way. 00:37:16
And and it sounds like once these three monuments are built, we're going to be hopefully able to connect those, perhaps even 00:37:21
through like an art walk along the promenade. 00:37:26
Right. That what makes our story and our narrative visible to the public. 00:37:31
And so I'll leave it there, but I will support this. I think it's. 00:37:37
Worthy individual to recognize and and a regional history a city history. 00:37:42
Not just some kind of feel good piece for the port, it's it's looks like it's truly been a partnership. 00:37:48
And I look forward to seeing it there at that location. 00:37:56
At the epicenter of our history. 00:37:59
So. 00:38:06
Thank you for the little history on how this all came about. I I too believe that I I I. 00:38:08
History is one of my favorite subjects and I I do appreciate the history of the Bard family and and the accomplishments. And I 00:38:16
think that's wonderful. I think that I. 00:38:20
The reason I asked about the location is is because in a very short period of time when I found this was on our agenda. 00:38:26
I reached out to about 100. 00:38:34
About 140. 00:38:38
That our residents throughout our community through. 00:38:40
Umm. 00:38:45
Coalition that we have and I wanted to get their feedback and they're from all different parts of the community and their 00:38:46
homeowners, their residents, they've many of them lived here a long time. 00:38:52
And umm, out of the 140 we got about a 40%. 00:38:59
Return. 00:39:05
Com. 00:39:07
Everyone thought the idea of the statue is fine and they love the idea of the history of it. 00:39:08
47. 00:39:19
I said said it's the wrong location. 00:39:21
Agreed to the beach location. 00:39:25
We have a. We have a disparity as far as the concerns as to where the location should be. 00:39:29
I think that there's an overwhelming portion of those people felt that the Chumash should have be on the beach and instead, and I 00:39:36
didn't know you were going to do a Truman consider a Chumash location. 00:39:41
Or a monument. And I think that's a wonderful idea. I think that as as. 00:39:47
As Joan had mentioned too, she had mentioned that as well and I appreciate that comment because I think that there is something to 00:39:52
be said about that it's. 00:39:56
Our city name is. 00:40:01
Um. 00:40:03
Me. 00:40:04
The resting place, and I think that there's some, some benefit in honoring the Chumash on the beach. 00:40:05
So I think that. 00:40:12
I'd like to recommend I recommend I I I support the statue. I just don't support the location of the statue. 00:40:15
I'm sorry to. 00:40:25
I just think that's it's an appropriate location. 00:40:27
I think I kind of want to say the thing the same thing as I spoke to some of my neighbors. 00:40:31
Regarding the location of the statue also, I 100% support. 00:40:37
The statue there's absolutely nothing. 00:40:44
That I don't support about the statue, but the location. 00:40:47
A couple of things were brought up for me and that was, is it going to affect the value of my home when I no longer have? 00:40:52
The view of the ocean. 00:40:59
An obstruction. 00:41:04
To it so. 00:41:05
I agree with you on the recommendation that I don't know if there was any further talk as far as a different location. 00:41:07
I support the statue 100% and that's pretty much what I have to. 00:41:15
Do you have anything, Mr. 00:41:23
Is there any other further discussion? 00:41:28
I think, I think that my colleagues for sharing those concerns. I I think it's important one of the earlier notes that was made 00:41:33
about the significance of the site. 00:41:38
And and perhaps. 00:41:42
It's always interesting when we talk about this and we reach out to the average resident who's just trying to make a go at it, 00:41:46
trying to earn their keep and keep a house over their heads about it without explaining why that site is significant. 00:41:53
And I think it's the very reason why a monument there is important to tell the story on why that location is significant to the 00:42:00
history of our region. You know, if you ask somebody, hey, do you want an 11 foot statue at the beach, they're going to probably 00:42:05
say. 00:42:10
Probably not. Right. And it kind of fuels, frankly, like a sense of Nimb yism, right? Not in my backyard. It can go someplace 00:42:15
else. Well, the city is only so big. 00:42:20
And there's only certain locations that are, as there's no other location that's as significant as that location for this statue 00:42:26
that's accessible to the public that will allow book ending, right? Imagine if we had a shoemash monument on one end of the beach. 00:42:32
Walkway, right? It's like, what is it? A mile long? A couple miles long? 00:42:39
In this monument on the other end, right, it shows the history. 00:42:45
That's why I'm a little concerned about this specific issue, taking feedback where we reach out to our public and and that 00:42:50
specific way without also acknowledging that. 00:42:55
Has there been a lot of information around why this location is significant? If you just say you knock on some doors, oh, do you 00:43:01
want a 11 foot statue across the street from you? They're probably going to say no. Not to say that that's exactly what happened, 00:43:05
but. 00:43:09
And I think that comment around property values. 00:43:14
An art walk with art and history that's going to raise the property values, not decrease them. 00:43:18
That's just that's a thing. That's why we invest in public art. Umm. 00:43:26
And then as far as the view, I mean we're talking about you know, close to a life-size statue of. 00:43:30
Of a one person, right? It's not like a nine story apartment building or somet. 00:43:37
So I understand those concerns. I do really urge that we. 00:43:41
Accept this again. We're far in this statues already. 00:43:47
Cast or has already been cast. 00:43:52
The cake's been cooked on that, so I I just really urge you colleagues that I think that location is the right location for this. 00:43:55
Some say the museum. Well, frankly, is the museum even open at the moment? I don't know. It's not so. 00:44:05
Few locations are as prominent and could bookend our history and that way if we had CB. 00:44:13
Ch. 00:44:20
The Bard monument and then maybe some art throughout. That is a really cool. 00:44:22
Display of our story to our public and our visitors. I'll leave it there. Thank you. 00:44:28
So I urge the adoption of staff recommendation. 00:44:32
Or excuse me of. 00:44:35
Recommendation is to receive and file the informational report and we're making a recommendation to the City Council. 00:44:40
To approve the application as presented now be it is that on your motion. 00:44:47
That would be my motion. 00:44:53
Do I have a second? 00:44:55
So can I make some more comments then just to try? 00:45:08
Kind of clarify the people that that commented on this. 00:45:11
People that weren't in the know, they're very much aware of what the port has been for. 00:45:15
Our community and and they respect that and and they're not trying to be obstinate or difficult. I think they're just trying to be 00:45:21
practical and finding the right solution. 00:45:25
The beach is very pristine and it's and we've had have a beautiful beach and it's probably one of the nicest beaches in Ventura 00:45:30
County. 00:45:33
And I think that. 00:45:37
Concern about too much stuff going on the beach as far as monuments and and and and I think that I appreciate the the concept, but 00:45:39
we don't have a concept for a art walk or anything of that nature at this time. 00:45:46
And if that wants, if that's something that we, the council has a vision for, then that's probably a discussion that needs to be 00:45:54
had. We should, but we shouldn't. 00:45:58
Piece meal it. And I think we should we should have a bigger vision for what the concept is. But I think that I think that the 00:46:02
port entryway is a is a beautiful place to put it. And I think that even across the street at the museum and there's or the park 00:46:09
or the school or there's or the you know there's so many beautiful locations in our city. 00:46:15
I just think that. 00:46:23
Given our our responsibilities to get we're called the Citizens Advisory Commission. We're supposed to get citizens input. 00:46:25
And that's that's. 00:46:33
And that's what I I feel a responsibility to share those those comments from the citizens and the citizens did not favor that 00:46:34
location. They favor the statue, but they do not favor that location. 00:46:41
OK, since I didn't get a second on. 00:46:52
Commissioner's. 00:46:57
Motion. Do I have a second motion? 00:47:02
I guess I would recommend that the, the city, the council and the and the commissioners come back to. 00:47:13
With an alternate location. 00:47:21
They to listen to what the citizens have to say and to see if they can come back with another location that could be just as good. 00:47:23
Or maybe. 00:47:31
Do I have a second? 00:47:33
2nd. 00:47:35
All in favor, I think there has to be a discussion on that motion. That's a new motion. 00:47:37
OK. 00:47:47
Is just to clarify that's a motion for them to come back to us. 00:47:48
If the Council would like to have that brought back to the Citizens Advisory Committee, that's certainly up to the Council to do 00:47:59
so. We're here at the pleasure of the council. 00:48:04
We're here to make recommendations from the citizens and the council makes their decisions based on. 00:48:09
Recommendations or not? 00:48:15
Right. So I mean they could hear what we have to say and they could say no, we don't, we don't. 00:48:18
We don't like the suggestion that you're providing. 00:48:23
I just think that we we have a responsibility to try to be the voice of the people. 00:48:26
So. 00:48:33
From my comments, I'm just concerned that that's going to delay this process and it sounds like the applicant has been in this 00:48:35
process for a number of years and partnership with our City Council. 00:48:41
That's my concern. 00:48:50
Umm. 00:48:52
O. 00:48:56
I would make a substitute motion that this item is. 00:48:57
Recommended to City Council for adoption or the placement of a statue at a location to be determined by the City Council. 00:49:01
Or referred back to us or suggestion that would be my substitute motion. 00:49:10
No, it's just a. 00:49:16
I'll second that. 00:49:19
Is there any further discussion? 00:49:24
All in favor. 00:49:29
Aye. 00:49:31
The motion has passed. 00:49:37
OK, item number 3. Continued item after action report. Wyoming Beach Festival. 00:49:46
Receive information about the cost, resources, and event details associated with the. 00:49:53
Execution of the 2023 Wyoming Beach Festival. 00:50:00
And consider recommendations to be made to the City Council regarding the planning and execution of the 2024 Winemie Beach 00:50:04
Festival. 00:50:10
Including direction to prepare a request for proposal for event planning services. 00:50:16
Will staff please present the? 00:50:22
Good evening once again. 00:50:29
As you recall, this item was presented to the Commission on October 9th and was continued to allow additional time for public 00:50:32
input. 00:50:36
Since that time, Neela e-mail Link was set up to allow members of the public to send e-mail communications to the Citizen Advisory 00:50:41
Commission. We're still working to get that fully functional, but emails sent to that link are received by staff and and are able 00:50:46
to be forwarded. 00:50:51
All the commissioners. 00:50:57
Additionally, the City made four posts on its Facebook page about this meeting to engender. 00:50:59
Interest and encourage participation in this meeting. 00:51:05
Since it's a continued item, I don't want to rehash everything, but I did want to just quickly run through the presentation that 00:51:11
we had last time, along with a quick summary of the comments and feedback that we received at the last meeting. 00:51:16
So. 00:51:25
As an overview. 00:51:29
The the purpose is for the council to have the CAC review. 00:51:32
Information about the fiscal impact of the 2023 Winneme Beach Festival. 00:51:37
Review the contents of the festival itself and make. 00:51:42
Recommendations and Comments Any advisory recommendations about the performance of the event in the future? 00:51:47
This year's event was held on the 26th and 27th of August and had an approximate attendance of 19 to 20,000 people. For the third 00:51:53
year in a row, we did have reach. 00:51:58
The event on behalf of the. 00:52:04
As you'll recall, the initial proposal for this year's event did include the charging of an admission. 00:52:07
That idea was not supported and subsequently represented a revised. 00:52:15
That had a very minimal. 00:52:20
Projected Sur. 00:52:23
The council entered into an agreement with REACH to move forward with event planning, execution services and again a quick summary 00:52:25
that was to develop and implement the work plan and the budget to execute contracts for festival services, to provide on site 00:52:32
supervision, to oversee sponsorship contractors and oversee vendor coordinators. 00:52:38
And engage in all marketing efforts to support the event. 00:52:45
And then I just did want to note that city staff resources are also contributed in support of the event. 00:52:49
One footnote last time in the staff report and I believe in the presentation. 00:52:55
That reach had indicated it was unlikely to continue being interested in providing support for the event planning services. 00:53:00
There's been. 00:53:09
Counter proposals and discussion among REACH about its interest, so it's a little bit unclear whether or not that position would 00:53:12
change, and REACH may or may not be interested in providing the services in the future, but regardless staff. 00:53:18
Is continuing to make the proposal that we pursue an RFP to identify a qualified vendor that can provide event planning and 00:53:25
execution services. 00:53:30
So a quick review of the finances we talked about this last time, but we based on reaches financial reconciliation, we're looking 00:53:39
at a deficit of approximately $46,000. Event planners were able to do a good job keeping expenses in line with what was budgeted, 00:53:44
but the income fell short. 00:53:50
This was primarily due to a less than anticipated activity based revenues. 00:53:56
Revenues, Monies collected from rides and souvenir sales, beverage sales and such. 00:54:03
As well as sponsorship, revenue came in less than expected. 00:54:08
The slide also provides information about the city's contribution. Last time we talked about the cost of the event, the 00:54:13
self-sustaining nature of it, if that was a desire of the Commission. 00:54:17
Again, the city provides an upfront contribution from sponsorship of $25,000 staff support costs, primarily public works and 00:54:22
police. We also have some recreation staff involved in event activities, a little over 27,000. 00:54:28
And then again, per the contract, the city is responsible for the deficit, which is estimated to be about $46,000. 00:54:35
So the considerations that were used last time to prompt discussion. 00:54:43
And engage the Commission in thoughtful and meaningful comments and thoughts about the event in the future. 00:54:47
We have that here, should it be a regional event, should have a community focus. 00:54:55
Should it be a single or multi day event, the time of the year we want to avoid competition with other events and then again, what 00:54:59
is, what is the objective? Do we want a regional event or do we just want something that's focused on on our community, the size 00:55:03
of the event? 00:55:08
And then here I did my best. It's certainly not an all inclusive list, but it's a relatively good capture of the the comments that 00:55:14
were shared, some by written comment, others by the comments that the folks on the dais the commissioners made. 00:55:20
And again, the beach, we call it the Winnie Me Beach Festival, but are we truly using the beach? There was a comment about the 00:55:27
underutilization nature of the event. 00:55:31
They need to enhance the community group involvement, right. We talked about nonprofits, the schools, civic organizations and and 00:55:37
their opportunity to improve their and enhance their involvement. Again, I mentioned before the financial concerns, the fact that 00:55:42
we had a deficit and whether or not this can be should be a self-sustaining or just the degree to which it should be subsidized by 00:55:47
city. 00:55:52
Again, we talked about avoiding conflicts of other events. The Ventura County Fair and the Ventura County Pride events were 00:55:59
mentioned as events to try to avoid. 00:56:02
Conflicting. 00:56:06
And again that regional event. 00:56:08
Maximize attendance versus the community. 00:56:11
It was noted in the report that we have a cannabis presence. We have the cannabis code. Question was asked, should we have that 00:56:15
there? One of the comments was yes, that's an integral part of who we are. We should retain that. 00:56:19
Again the discussion about potentially reducing it to a one day event, there was a discussion about the sports involvement. 00:56:25
Perhaps a basketball, a three on three, NBA. There was a surf competition, triathlon, volleyball. All those ideas were mentioned. 00:56:30
The Navy, the Chumash, the community group, again discussion about the importance of involving those. 00:56:38
And again, why we're here, there was a desire to allow for additional community feedback. I mentioned some of the efforts that the 00:56:44
city did and and I know that some of the members of the day has indicated that they would do some outreach and we do have a number 00:56:48
of. 00:56:52
Members of the public here that submitted comment cards. 00:56:57
With that overview. 00:57:00
I'll either answer, leave it to questions. 00:57:02
Public. 00:57:05
Does Commission have any questions for? 00:57:08
Only questions will be taken at this time. Comments and discussion will be heard later. 00:57:12
No questions. 00:57:22
I think I have a question. 00:57:25
Will they be looking into other resources? 00:57:27
Instead of using reach, using a different organization to. 00:57:34
Organize the. 00:57:39
Yeah. So I won't necessarily say an alternative to reach, but right now the plan is for the city to develop a request for 00:57:41
proposal. 00:57:44
Where we would advertise. 00:57:48
For a qualified vendor that could be potentially reached if they're interested and or other vendors. 00:57:52
That would provide the event planning and execution services, so it's really an opportunity to find someone that's qualified and 00:57:57
able to meet all of the key objectives. 00:58:01
And we're looking to the CAC and ultimately the council to help us identify what are those key objectives, but the questions about 00:58:06
the size of the event, the importance of the sponsorship, marketing aspects, the economics of it, the the degree to which it needs 00:58:11
to be self-sustaining. 00:58:15
Is there an economic impact Focus? Are we? Are we? 00:58:21
Wanting a regional draw where people are going to come here and perhaps stay overnight, you know, use our restaurants and we're 00:58:24
going to benefit from things like that. So yeah, reach. 00:58:29
Could theoretically, if they are interested, express interest and submit a proposal, but right now our thought is to develop a 00:58:35
request for proposal where we seek qualified vendors to perform those services. 00:58:39
Are there any other questions? 00:58:47
Is there any public comments regarding this item? 00:58:52
Yes, our first public comment will be from Brianna Silva. 00:58:57
Hi. I apologize, I wasn't prepared to speak today, but real quick I did. 00:59:08
I immediately I did not make it to this year's festival, mainly because. 00:59:15
There were certain things I was asked by the director in 2022 to volunteer, which I did one day. 00:59:19
And then I was out of reach. 00:59:25
I was asked to go ahead and, you know, give input and I did and I also feel that it was ignored. 00:59:28
I do know the person for a very long time, so I did ask, hey, what's going on and it was ignored. But basically my thing was I 00:59:35
went came in early. 00:59:40
Walked around, talked to. I'm also a small business owner and so I walked around to some of the local vendors. 00:59:45
Some of the food trucks, all the different activities and I just observed a lot of different things that could have been changed. 00:59:52
One was definitely the input that I received from a lot of different people, even from coming in because I was at the entrance. 00:59:58
Was that it should have been a one day event. 01:00:04
The Also the impact to the pavilion across the. 01:00:08
I did speak to them as well and they were also very upset because they were not compensated for being the location of the pickup 01:00:12
location for the green products. 01:00:16
Two years, you know, 2022 last year. Again, I like I said, I I chose to skip it because I was still annoyed. 01:00:23
As a member of the community, I do feel. 01:00:31
Beach festival needs to happen. 01:00:35
I've lived in many different parts in California and I've always been a part of. 01:00:37
And participated in a lot of different festivals and I appreciate. 01:00:41
What it brings to the community you we want to have tourism here within this this beautiful beach that we have. 01:00:46
The Banana Fest, I appreciate it as a vendor being there, seeing the community involvement that they had, they had the schools 01:00:53
there, they had, you know? 01:00:58
You know, mariachi is everything. The music, everything was there and the community was very much involved. I felt like when I 01:01:06
went to the beach festival, it was just an extension of the. 01:01:11
Of the county. 01:01:17
The Strawberry Festival too, Exactly. I haven't gone to the Strawberry festival in a very long time because it has grown to this 01:01:19
giant monster that I feel detracts from the beauty that is here in Ventura County. 01:01:25
So for me, I just wanted to make you know. 01:01:31
I do think there should be a fee probably for the first year. 01:01:37
Just to go ahead and make to have a question for the next for the following years. 01:01:41
Again, it's just something you could go ahead and say and put it out there. It's a donation to the community so you can continue 01:01:46
on. Because we don't want to lose this. We want to continue to draw more people so we can advertise. 01:01:52
Throughout Southern California, so that you can have more people come. I mean, I've met people. 01:01:58
San Bernardino who come out here because it's the weather. That's what we want to do. We want to have them come here and. 01:02:03
See the beauty? That's it. 01:02:09
OK, Beverly Kelly. 01:02:14
I'm here wearing two hats today. 01:02:23
One is being at the museum board and the other is being friends of the library. Can you hear me? 01:02:27
So this is the first year of the President of the. 01:02:35
Did not attend as a did not have a booth. 01:02:39
At the festival because. 01:02:44
And I'm going to use the word That's not nice, but we were being gouged. 01:02:48
We're a non profit and we were asked to pay, you know, hundreds and hundreds of dollars. 01:02:53
Either for admission or whatever the fee is, the rental fee kind of thing, or also it was for insurance. 01:02:59
An in the past, we've never had to do any of that stuff. 01:03:08
Little history lesson. 01:03:14
I know, I know, you like history. And I like history too. This festival started as a result of Tony Young's idea. 01:03:15
And Tony had some money. They other the City Council had some money if the money came from you, if you can remember the bus stops. 01:03:25
And they had advertising on the bus stops. So they had, you know, I don't know, 25. 01:03:34
Let's do something with this we had. 01:03:39
The Harbor days that had been going on for 50 years, that was a total 100% volunteer operation, but that was a time when we had 01:03:42
12. 01:03:47
Nonprofits able to do this. We had people that were able to be the police and all. Everything was covered in that way. 01:03:52
Then we so, so the so we had the festival up until the point. 01:04:02
When, When is when it was costing $50,000 a year. 01:04:07
And then people decided on the City Council. We couldn't afford it. And at that time we had a structural deficit and we had a lot 01:04:11
of problems. 01:04:15
So when it came. 01:04:18
It came back in the form where where Reach was in charge of it. 01:04:22
Now I'm not sure on the numbers here, but I think the first year was with 20 grand in the hole. 01:04:27
And 50 grand and now 90 grand. Is that correct? Do I have the correct numbers here? 01:04:32
40. 01:04:39
Without, with, with or without staff. 01:04:44
That's a lot of money. 01:04:46
And I looked at where the money was going, and it was going to professionals. It was going to, this person was in charge of, you 01:04:48
know, advertising. This person was in charge of sponsorships. This person was in charge of something else. 01:04:54
And they all got all their money off the top. 01:05:00
And you're never going to make it that way. 01:05:03
Now, I think that you can do it with a lot of volunteers, I think if you give the nonprofits. 01:05:05
An opportunity they will provide you with fishing on the pier or sand castles or whatever it is that you want to do. 01:05:12
I think I'd love to see this happen. 01:05:22
Give me a few seconds. 01:05:24
I'd like to see this happen again, but I want it to be smaller one. 01:05:26
All volun. 01:05:31
And we can, we need to have some kind of committee. 01:05:33
Where's this committee going to come from? I'm looking around here. There's nobody here. 01:05:37
You need if if there isn't the desire in. 01:05:44
You're going to have to let it go, but I think, I think that with a 25 grand from the city. 01:05:50
And volunteers, I think you can do something. So that's my two cents. Thanks. 01:05:57
Joan Tharp. 01:06:05
Hello, I agree with a lot that the previous speaker said. I don't profess to know anything about putting on a festival of any size 01:06:13
or sort. I also don't know what concerns the city has about liability or safety. However, I think that the timing of the festival, 01:06:21
I'm just going to sort of riff here timing of the festival. 01:06:28
Should be mid June or mid-july when it doesn't conflict with anything else is going that's going on. 01:06:36
I think the focus needs to be on the community and so that means volunteers. I think that the city is like one of those friends 01:06:43
you have that wants to do everything themselves. 01:06:48
And not outsource. I'm sure we've had bosses and friends like. 01:06:53
There are a lot of nonprofits in this community and outside of the community in the county. 01:06:58
That would probably love to be involved. I agree with the comment about the admission fee for nonprofits. I think it's kind of 01:07:04
ridiculous. And what I would suggest instead is that you have those nonprofits put something on, get involved. They can do their 01:07:11
tabling and their promotion and their merch sales, but have them do an educational piece. 01:07:18
Some of those nonprofits would include, perhaps someone from the Chumash community. Ventura Audubon might be interested coastal 01:07:25
keepers from Oxnard, the Merido Foundation, Surfrider, Ventura County Real Guppies. 01:07:33
And there's also a group called Pure Stoke that does surf surfing opportunities for people. Youth that is. 01:07:41
Not that are not often able to go surfing, so whether they're on the autism scale or emotionally disabled, they do. They might be 01:07:51
interested in putting on a little. 01:07:57
Thing for the kids. One of the things I have a problem with is that we call it a beach festival. It has nothing to do with the 01:08:04
beach. It's fenced off from the beach. That might be a safety concern, I don't know. 01:08:09
But I would also suggest that we have activities and contests, whether they're circuit style or somebody does a. 01:08:14
A volleyball serve contest and then does a relay and then does a frisbee into a hula hoop. Something that's fun engages the 01:08:22
community. 01:08:27
As the. 01:08:34
Participation of the community, the parade for Harbor Days. I've been here long enough to remember that. That was a blast. 01:08:36
Everybody loved that. So I really think the focus, whether it's one or two days and it probably would be one day, needs to get off 01:08:42
the carnival, ride off the bands, maybe have more local bands, high school bands, whatever it is, it really, I I really feel that 01:08:48
it needs to be focused on the community. So thank you for your time. 01:08:55
That concludes Public. 01:09:10
OK, the recommendation is to receive information about the cost, resources and event details. 01:09:14
Associated with the execution of the 2023 Winemay Beach Festival. 01:09:21
And consider recommendations. 01:09:27
To be made to the City Council regarding the planning and execution. 01:09:30
Of the 2024 Winemay Beach Festival. 01:09:35
Including direction to prepare a request for proposal for event planning services. 01:09:38
May I have a motion and a second? 01:09:45
I mean, I'll make that motion. 01:09:53
Do I have a second? 01:09:56
Hey, does anybody have anything for discussion? 01:10:03
Yeah, I got one thing. 01:10:09
OK. 01:10:11
I don't even know if I need that. 01:10:14
But. 01:10:16
I I work at the high school. 01:10:18
And. 01:10:20
There are numerous clubs and organizations over there. 01:10:22
And if. 01:10:26
Or the? 01:10:28
However, whatever entity. 01:10:32
Community service is really big. 01:10:36
College applications. 01:10:39
And if you had the right type of application. 01:10:41
The kids at my school would eat that. 01:10:46
And they would come out and volunteer in droves. 01:10:48
Just to be part of that. 01:10:52
And I mean we have NJROTC mariachi. 01:10:54
The science club. You know all the sports. 01:10:59
You know, they need all that kind of stuff on their college applications and I think that's. 01:11:03
That's. 01:11:09
I don't even know the right word for it, but we're not mining it the right way. 01:11:12
And if we did? 01:11:16
You get a You could get a boatload of volunteers. 01:11:18
That would want to come out and especially if it was held to one day. 01:11:22
You know because. 01:11:28
Kids want to do stuff like that. 01:11:30
And they want to be part of something that's bigger than themselves. 01:11:32
Especially if it's going to benefit their city. 01:11:35
Yeah, So I I just like to put that out there. 01:11:39
Yeah. 01:11:42
Anyone else? 01:11:46
Have anything to discuss? 01:11:48
Yeah. 01:11:50
Umm. 01:11:53
I did my due diligence again and went out and talked to a lot of different people and sent out a survey. I. 01:11:53
And I think that I have a couple of really important points I think and I appreciate all the comments mentioned here today because 01:12:00
that kind of echoes. 01:12:04
I'm hearing. 01:12:09
And. 01:12:11
You know, again, I sent out over 100, close to 140 surveys that I talked to, mostly residents, but I also about another 10% to 01:12:12
nonprofits. 01:12:17
And just community events, people. And I think that, you know, we have to remember who we are. 01:12:22
We're a bedroom community. 01:12:27
We have, we happen to have a port. We happen to have a Navy base. 01:12:30
Kind of houses, about half of our population actually. So then most of our workforce. 01:12:35
Where I think that one of the things that makes us really unique and special is the fact that we are a quiet beautiful. 01:12:42
Bedroom community. 01:12:49
With a quality of life that we all love and enjoy here. 01:12:51
And I think that going back in history to the Harbor days and the the, the, the kind of the quirky. 01:12:55
Localism, if you will, of how that was special. 01:13:03
I remember sitting on my porch in the back of my home and watching the little parade go by with. 01:13:09
Crazy wacky floats and it. 01:13:15
Fun. It was charming. There was something to be said. 01:13:18
About that, and I think that there's a general feeling right now with. 01:13:23
With the folks that I've spoken with and these are the top things, number one, keep it local #2, make sure there's an Ocean Beach 01:13:28
element to it. 01:13:33
Supports the beach. 01:13:40
It's helped. It provides. 01:13:42
You know we the Wellness for the beach and the and and we have a lot of wonderful nonprofits like the Coastal Keepers Autobahns 01:13:45
and as as was as Joan had mentioned a variety of other. 01:13:50
Folks that that what I spoke with them they. 01:13:57
Said I'd like to be involved. I'd like to do an event. I'd like to do something to be. 01:14:01
To raise awareness for my organization or raise money. 01:14:07
To help fund this event. 01:14:11
And they're, they're younger, a lot younger than. 01:14:14
And so they have the energy to do it, which I don't. 01:14:17
But you know, I think it's in it and it was in the passion to do it, which I think was wonderful and I think that. 01:14:21
As we go down the you know the this path and maybe even maybe it's a series of events throughout the summer, smaller events. 01:14:27
It starts off with a parade, a summer celebration. 01:14:37
And maybe there's a kite contest, a fishing contest one week. 01:14:40
Umm. 01:14:46
Surfing contests, volleyballs. 01:14:47
Sandcastles, there's probably a half a dozen different opportunities to do something special. Sports events in in a variety of 01:14:52
different ways like you mentioned and and I think that. 01:14:58
You know, if we keep it. 01:15:05
I mean, there's a event in Florida that I found that was is. 01:15:07
A goofy triathlon and they let you swim in the ocean. You can wear your flippers, you can have your boogie boards, then you can 01:15:12
get on a fat tire. 01:15:17
Go on and this is family oriented. It's not real highly competitive. It's more for fun and it's and then they get on your fat tire 01:15:22
and you'd ride your bike and then you have to go through an obstacle course on the beach and you have to crawl through floaties 01:15:26
and. 01:15:31
Obstacles that are kind of make it fun and the reason they call it the Lifesa Beach Crawl. 01:15:35
Triathlon because they're raising money for the turtles. 01:15:42
And again I'm thinking. 01:15:47
The birds and the and the and the the health of our our beautiful beach and taking. 01:15:49
And having some. 01:15:55
Doing that, but also raising the awareness of taking the snowy plovers and and being making people aware of that and. 01:15:57
Taking this into a different direction. 01:16:05
Completely and and having. 01:16:08
Having it unique to Port Hueneme rather than trying to compete with other beach festivals or the fair or any or the strawberry 01:16:12
festival. 01:16:16
We need to stay unique and and to ourselves and high schools. 01:16:20
Cook. 01:16:26
The Chumash, maybe there's a canoe contest out in the in the ocean with it, I guess. 01:16:28
The Tamal canoes, The Chumash canoes, which would be kind of fun, right? And then. 01:16:37
You know, I think that we we, we should look to, you know, I met with REACH. I went to one of their meetings because I wanted to 01:16:46
find out a little bit of what was going on, trying to do my due diligence here. 01:16:51
And I think that one of the things that I came away with is that, yeah, they're trying to reconsider and they may need to rethink 01:16:56
their organization a bit. 01:17:00
And I respect that. 01:17:05
And I think that we need to respect the fact that we also need to rethink our event or events. 01:17:07
Because it may be. It's a series of fun events that are easier to bite off and chew, rather than one big. 01:17:13
Fair at a festival, a street fair or a County Fair that happens to be at the beach, so that. 01:17:20
Oh, Port Whitney. 01:17:28
Fun feel. 01:17:30
And that we can all be. 01:17:32
Feel like we can be a part of in some fashion. 01:17:33
So my recommendation is that maybe we look to. 01:17:36
Even consider taking a hiatus. 01:17:42
Put a steering committee together of some of the nonprofits and some of the community members out there. 01:17:45
And see if we can't re. 01:17:51
Re envision. 01:17:54
What this might be? 01:17:58
That's my $0.02. 01:18:01
OK, I have something I want to say. 01:18:05
Real Guppy Outdoors is a nonprofit. 01:18:11
And. 01:18:17
Only Partic. 01:18:20
In the beach festival on Saturday this year. 01:18:22
Because the fence factory wasn't going to be there and let us use their booth. 01:18:26
Otherwise. 01:18:32
We would not have been able to be. 01:18:34
Because of the price they were going to charge. 01:18:36
So, nonprofits, Definitely. 01:18:42
Need to be thought of whenever we're considering what we're going to do here. 01:18:46
I grew up here. 01:18:54
I. 01:18:57
With the Harbor days and everything was like when I was a kid. The parades. 01:18:59
I was in half of the parades. 01:19:05
Umm. 01:19:08
And we need to get back to that. 01:19:09
To where the community is more involved. 01:19:12
Especially our youth. 01:19:16
Our youth is our future. 01:19:20
And we need to get them involved. 01:19:23
That's all I have to say. 01:19:28
I actually wanted to follow back on that. 01:19:31
Winimi is also right next door to Oxnard. We have a beautiful college. We have a foundation at the college, which gives money 01:19:35
every year to so many projects. 01:19:40
I don't know why we aren't using more of the nonprofits for anything. And why would we ever charge the nonprofits? It doesn't make 01:19:46
it their nonprofit. It makes no sense to me. 01:19:51
Nonprofits can be your volunteers. They can set up their booze. They can set up everything for you. 01:19:58
And we have sister cities right next to us. 01:20:04
I'd say there's probably, what, 500 nonprofits between Oxnard and Port Hueneme. 01:20:08
That would probably take care of the whole festival. Let's keep it local again, Let's do those sandcastles. Let's do the surfing 01:20:14
contest. Let's do the fishing with real guppies. 01:20:19
That's my two cents on. 01:20:25
Let's have the college out there with these kids out here, you know, and. 01:20:30
Their major is we have a huge nursing program. 01:20:34
High schools with every. 01:20:40
Does anybody else have anything to discuss? 01:20:47
And 1st I just want to thank the community members who submitted comments and spoke this evening on this important topic and to 01:20:53
staff for gathering that feedback. I thought that was really good. 01:20:58
Summary of what this Commission discussed last month. 01:21:05
You know, I hearing the various thoughts of the event, I'm reminded of, you know, I grew up in a city that we had the flower 01:21:10
festival and it's very much what you all described, right? It was we were the flower capital of the world, Lompoc, yeah, in Santa 01:21:15
Barbara County. 01:21:21
And I saw what became. 01:21:28
What was mentioned earlier, right, the commercialization of it and how it became less and less in touch with the community. 01:21:32
And some of the non profits fell away because of that and actually went into serious decline. The selling, you know tacos was the 01:21:39
big fundraiser of the year at the event. 01:21:43
So I think that's an important factor to consider in this and I hope that's in the RFP, somebody who has a vision for how they 01:21:48
plan to engage the community, how they plan to engage nonprofits and involve them. 01:21:55
As. 01:22:02
Umm or tape? Having booths rather. 01:22:04
You know, and it's always a hard tension, right, because on one hand we all wanted to be Mayberry again and on the other hand it 01:22:08
needs to be economically viable. And I think we can get closer to being in the middle there and that could solve a lot of these 01:22:14
issues and and take advantage that we're. 01:22:19
Have elements of that community that we can draw on, right? They're not. It's not all gone yet. So how can we draw on them and 01:22:26
pull on them? 01:22:30
So, and I and I do want to acknowledge Tony Young and her contribution to reviving or creating the Beach Festival, imagining it 01:22:35
other council members. 01:22:41
Unfortunately, of course, she passed. And you know, to her family and friends, as they say you know, may her memory be a blessing. 01:22:47
And I think it continues through this type of an event, right And. 01:22:55
And going forward, two points I'll add is I do discourage. I understand the desire to take time to plan and and take a break for a 01:23:00
year. 01:23:05
Too often I've seen when you take a break it breaks, right? So I think having a one day event that's viable, that can get us 01:23:11
through and get the feedback from the vendors. 01:23:17
Reaching back to some of our nonprofits and saying it's a new day, new way, you know, come on back, you know, at the last meeting 01:23:23
I showed my own experience why my organization wasn't even allowed to table, even though we table at every other community event, 01:23:27
right? 01:23:31
So I think that will be. 01:23:37
And the final factor, I think it was mentioned in the slide, but just having by doing that also having a couple of resource 01:23:39
booths, health county resources. 01:23:44
And they will come, they will table, they will probably, I don't know, probably sponsor, I don't know, but you know, have somebody 01:23:51
be able to come and get medical and tortilla and a Taco, I should say and and walk on the beach and listen to music and check out 01:23:56
the Rotary Club. 01:24:01
And here's some music. You know, that's a cool event that's going to feel different than some of the other larger events in the 01:24:07
community because it would still have that sense of being authentic, right. And the local businesses as well, certainly right now 01:24:13
we need, we need an opportunity to spotlight them. And unfortunately if they're priced out and it's a two day event, that's asking 01:24:19
a lot of a small business owner to be there. Hey, I was just at an event. 01:24:25
Where they were charged $600.00. I don't know what the fee was this year, but at this event I was at $600 to table for a 2 day 01:24:32
event. 01:24:35
None of them. I think half. More than half the small business owners I talked to did not even break even. 01:24:39
And that's, that's really rough, right? Especially if it's a key weekend in the summer where they could be making money otherwise. 01:24:46
So I'll leave my comments there, but those will be my two, my two points. 01:24:52
Is. I hope we don't take a break. 01:24:58
I support the comments of my colleagues. 01:25:01
And that we have some resource kind of Fair components to it as well, so people can leave. 01:25:04
Healthier and wiser for having. 01:25:10
Is there any more? I do have one more thing I forgot to mention, one of the things that I think is important. 01:25:15
I think it is the budget and the financial considerations to our city. 01:25:24
And I think that you know. 01:25:31
One thing that that in my opinion and based on my experience with a lot of different events as a participant and. 01:25:35
Promoter in the past. 01:25:43
Is that city is really are there to be the host. 01:25:46
Provide support. 01:25:51
And to be provide some resources, but they're not typically. 01:25:54
The main driver. 01:26:01
Of the events, it's usually a business. It's usually a nonprofit. It's usually. 01:26:02
An entity A. 01:26:07
It's really the main. 01:26:10
Focus and driver behind it and I'd I'd like to see the. 01:26:12
Be a part of this but not in not in the in the way financially that that that that puts the city at risk again and. 01:26:16
Because I think we have a fiduciary responsibility as a Commission to be thoughtful of that and I think that if we can. 01:26:26
Look to redeveloping a. 01:26:34
A steering committee that could. 01:26:38
Bring. 01:26:41
Some players who are. 01:26:44
Capable. I happen to have a neighbor that I know that. 01:26:49
Throws really big events and he says this event is too small for him. 01:26:53
I'm trying to guilt him. 01:26:57
For free. 01:27:01
And if we could get a couple of people who have some really great experience and sort of providing. 01:27:03
Some some advice and some wherewithal to kind of help provide it. 01:27:09
Steering committee, if you will, to. 01:27:15
Start to look at where they got to get the resources. Who's going to help start. 01:27:18
And and I think even the nonprofit's can play a role in this because if. 01:27:22
If they're going to be able to raise money for their own organizations, they too will have the wherewithal. 01:27:27
Put some resources to it. 01:27:35
And you know, I love the idea of the schools being involved because again, youth has energy and we need that energy. 01:27:38
Help us to drive these things and make it make it good and and it's good for them too. I think that's great. 01:27:46
So that's all I just wanted to be just be thoughtful of the budget. 01:27:54
And. 01:27:57
And the resources. 01:27:58
That's all. 01:28:01
Anyone else? 01:28:03
Just to piggyback on that point, you know, I haven't reviewed the process that we use here at the county for RFPs, but perhaps 01:28:06
there's an opportunity for a resident to be part of that screening process, but. 01:28:13
You know, City manager has that process, they know how to how to do RFP's, but that could be interesting to have. 01:28:20
A resident or a couple residents involved and looking at those RFP's recognizing of course we are on a very tight timeline. 01:28:26
That's just something to consider. 01:28:35
Maybe an advisory committee of some sort to review those? 01:28:40
Yeah, or just. 01:28:45
You know, I know that the city attorney would have to look in like the Brown Act rules and all of that involved in that, but I 01:28:46
think having. 01:28:50
Voice there, if possible, and that staff committee that's going to be reviewing the RFP process could be interesting. 01:28:53
If not this cycle, perhaps future cycles when we have a little bit more time? 01:29:02
Anybody else have anything? 01:29:10
A motion was made by a clearance seconded by Sanchez. 01:29:15
All those in favor? 01:29:20
Yes, it's received information about the. 01:29:24
Resources and event details associated with the execution of the. 01:29:28
23 Winami Beach Festival. 01:29:34
And consider recommendations to be made to the City Council. 01:29:37
Regarding the planning and execution of the 2020. 01:29:41
Wyndham Beach Festival, including direction to prepare a request for proposal for event planning services. 01:29:46
Before the Commission acts on that, if I could just ask, there were a number of good thoughts and suggestions made. 01:29:57
If we if I can just ask that maybe the motion could be customized a little bit to incorporate some of the tangible ideas so that 01:30:06
directions clear and when we return to the Council we can say exactly what the. 01:30:11
CAC had in mind with the. 01:30:17
OK. 01:30:20
Can I have a motion? I'll try to take a stab at amending that just a little bit in. 01:30:23
Recommending back to the City Council. 01:30:30
Um. 01:30:34
Look at the options or looks. Look. 01:30:37
The options for a festival or a series of festivals or something that is. 01:30:42
Takes into consideration the. 01:30:51
The input of the community. 01:30:56
To provide a more local focus. 01:30:59
What's that? 01:31:05
And not and a nonprofit focus to make community focus, you know, type of thing. I'm getting a little wordy here. Sorry. 01:31:07
Let me think about it. 01:31:16
It might be helpful if we just think about the bullet points that we're recommending and then we read off those bullet points. 01:31:18
Umm. 01:31:26
So we're talking about a local focus. 01:31:27
Reengaging nonprofits, right? 01:31:29
Beach Focus. 01:31:34
Beach activities. 01:31:36
Umm. 01:31:40
Youth, youth. OK. 01:31:41
I had shared resources like a. 01:31:47
Section. 01:31:51
Yeah, Joan. 01:31:53
One day. 01:31:56
Or a couple of 1 days small ones, yeah. 01:31:58
Yeah, I think the one day had been mentioned on the the previous list that we had that would be included in this. So these would 01:32:03
be in addition to what was presented. 01:32:07
Is there anything else that we have local? 01:32:11
A re engagement with our nonprofits as partners. 01:32:15
Focus. I've been using the beach in some ways, including activities. 01:32:20
Youth as a focus. 01:32:25
Including some community resources. 01:32:27
And that the event be a one day. 01:32:30
That pretty much. 01:32:33
What I did say? A little bit more about sponsorships. 01:32:37
Hey. 01:32:40
Researching gaming. More sponsorship. 01:32:40
That's a given, I think. Any event? 01:32:45
Well, it has to be, yeah. I mean. 01:32:48
Yeah, I mean, you know, OK. So one of the things I kept thinking about was a kite festival. Washington, the state of Washington 01:32:53
throws together a fabulous kite festival. That's. 01:32:57
On the beach. 01:33:03
It's seven days long. 01:33:04
Sponsored by. 01:33:07
And I'm thinking Alaska Airlines. 01:33:10
Right. We could do something along those lines. We have a new grocery store, the Grocery Outlet. 01:33:14
They they're going to want to be involved in our community. 01:33:19
Right. 01:33:22
They do, yes. 01:33:25
Right. 01:33:31
Yeah. 01:33:40
Yeah. Thank. Thank you. Yeah, that's true. I mean, but but again, if you're having a couple of different things, each one could be 01:33:44
sponsored by a different entity, right? So. 01:33:47
Grocery Outlook and sponsors. 01:33:52
Food event. 01:33:54
Yes, yes, yes, Yes, so. 01:33:56
So your motion would be to in addition to what's listed here. So we haven't rewarded in addition to what's been presented to us. 01:34:01
Recommend to staff to bring forward to council a recommendation for a local focus for the event. 01:34:10
To re engage our nonprofit partners beach engaging the actual beach in some way including possibly some activities, a youth focus, 01:34:16
bringing in community resources and that it's a one day event. 01:34:22
And that we focus as well as growing our sponsorships. So is that the motion? 01:34:29
Yeah, and I just the. 01:34:35
We can. We can. That's fine. 01:34:38
I think that the beach focus is. 01:34:40
Is really a critical piece of? 01:34:43
So with an emphasis on the on the beach focus, it's too much of A street fair that just happened to be at the beach, which was. 01:34:46
OK, we have a motion. Do we have a second? 01:34:54
OK, so before you vote, that was very helpful. Thank you good, good articulation of of the ideas. 01:34:58
Commissioner Claire, you mentioned in addition to. I just wanted to be clear, so is is it also? 01:35:06
Incorporating. 01:35:11
The items on the slide that was a summary of the comments from the last meeting, yes, yes. And then if any of these conflict with 01:35:13
those, these would take precedent because I think in the slide it's like one or two day, I don't know whatever, wherever there's 01:35:19
conflict between what we just suggested and what was in the slide, this would that's why I asked because some of them were just 01:35:25
concepts without specific direction. So I'll take the ones that were specific with direction add them to this and. 01:35:30
These shall prevail if there's a conflict. Thank you. 01:35:37
OK. Is there any more discussion? 01:35:41
And I just wanted to clarify, the motion was made by Mr. Burke seconded. 01:35:44
All those in favor? 01:35:54
A. 01:35:57
All those opposed. 01:35:58
OK, the motion is. 01:36:01
The staff have any comments to make? 01:36:03
No comments other than thank you for your hard work. Appreciate it. 01:36:09
Do the Commissioners have any comments to make? 01:36:13
Just wish everybody a happy Native American Heritage Month and that we honor the Shamesh people here. And also Thanksgiving. I 01:36:19
know it's this month as well. 01:36:25
A Merry Christmas all those. 01:36:34
Yes, we do. 01:36:40
OK, our next regular meeting. 01:36:42
Oh yeah. 01:36:50
The. 01:36:55
So I checked on that with staff today, hoping for an update. 01:36:58
So we are working with our e-mail contractor. We migrated to Office 365 this year. 01:37:03
So I don't have a solution yet, but I'm glad you brought that up. I did want to make one point of clarification. We're going to 01:37:09
amend our agendas to make clear when people have public comments on matters on agenda items. 01:37:15
Those will be requested that people send that directly to the City Clerk so that can be incorporated like we did tonight as part 01:37:21
of the the meeting agenda. If there are other thoughts that people just want to share with the commissioners, it's our goal to. 01:37:26
Have that fully functional so people can communicate directly to it. So for right now, as I indicated in an e-mail, the workaround 01:37:33
is that staff is able to receive and we will forward that to you. 01:37:37
We continue to work. 01:37:42
Folks that know a lot more about e-mail configuration than I to hopefully in the near term, have a successful resolution so you 01:37:43
guys can receive those directly. 01:37:48
OK. 01:37:52
It says 4. So we recently approved the CAC meeting schedule, a cost for quarterly meetings on the. 01:38:05
Monday of each month, each month starting in January. The regular time is 4. 01:38:16
This was a special meeting at 6:00, if there's. 01:38:23
Desire by the Commission to to reconsider that we can agenda eyes that and discuss it, but at this time it is scheduled for 4:00 01:38:26
for each meetings. 01:38:29
OK. Next regular quarterly meeting of the Citizen Advisory Commission is scheduled for Monday, January the. 01:38:34
20/24 at 4:00 PM. 01:38:43
The meeting is now adjourned. The time is 737. 01:38:46
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Welcome to the Citizen Advisory Commission Board meeting. I would like to call this meeting to order. The time is now 6. 00:01:42
Madam Clerk, could you please take the role? 00:01:52
Commissioner. 00:01:56
Commissioner Moody. 00:01:58
Commissioner Sanchez. 00:02:00
Vice chair of. 00:02:03
Present and chair Bruning. 00:02:04
Do we have any public comments at this time? 00:02:10
No general public comments. 00:02:15
OK. 00:02:17
We have no presentations. 00:02:19
We will now consider items on the consent calendar, which will be enacted in one motion unless a commissioner has a request to 00:02:22
remove an item for discussion. 00:02:27
May I have a motion and a second to approve the consent calendar? 00:02:32
Move to Approve I. 00:02:39
All in favor. 00:02:42
Aye, aye. 00:02:44
All those opposed. 00:02:47
This motion is passed. 00:02:51
OK. 00:03:00
Business I first business item is. 00:03:02
History and Heritage policy Nomination, Richard Bard Monument. 00:03:05
Recommendation is to review the applications submitted by the Oxnard Harbor District. 00:03:10
To construct and install a Richard Ward monument. 00:03:16
On city property and make a recommendation to City Council. 00:03:20
Will staff please present the report? 00:03:24
Thank you, Madam Chair. As indicated, item number two on the agenda pertains to an application of the Heroes History and Heritage 00:03:29
policy submitted by the Oxnard Harbor District. The application seeks to honor Richard Bard with a public monument on city 00:03:34
property. 00:03:38
As noted in the staff report, each year the city and the Oxnard Harbor district meet to review project ideas to be funded with the 00:03:46
Community Benefit Fund monies. 00:03:50
For the last few years a multi phased public monument project with phase one consisting of a Richard Bart statue has been 00:03:54
discussed by both agencies. 00:03:58
The city's initial approval action for phase. 00:04:04
Approved $50,000 and indicated that final project details would be determined through the Hero's History Heritage Policy 00:04:07
application process. 00:04:11
There have been two additional allocations from the community benefit. 00:04:16
$30,000, which council approved November of 2022. 00:04:20
An additional $40,000, which is approved by council last Monday. 00:04:24
The subject application has been screened by staff and is here now presented to the CAC for your review. 00:04:28
As a quick summary. 00:04:37
And I should note as I go into this, the the applicant is here and has a presentation is prepared to give that after I complete my 00:04:39
brief presentation. 00:04:42
But by way of quick summary, the Oxnard Harbor District is proposing to install a bronze statue of Richard Bard in the center of 00:04:47
the Wharf Plaza. 00:04:51
The statue weighs approximately £1000. It stands 7 feet tall and would sit atop A4 foot pedestal. 00:04:56
The district reports that the cost of construction and installation is estimated. 00:05:03
$97,374. 00:05:08
District will be responsible for all ongoing maintenance of the monument. 00:05:11
And it's important to note that lastly, the. 00:05:15
Proposal is that. 00:05:18
Installation of commemorative plaques on the monument, noting Richard Bard's various accomplishments, would be installed at a 00:05:20
later date. 00:05:24
O Here are some photos, different views N SE West of the proposed location for your review. Again, the center of The Wharf Plaza, 00:05:30
which is adjacent to the intersection of Surfside and Market. 00:05:36
And then in conclusion, CAC is charged with reviewing the application, considering the relevant data and making an advisory 00:05:46
recommendation to the council. 00:05:50
Relevant data includes a review of the nominees record, its accomplishments, alignment with the naming standards, and the policy 00:05:55
appropriateness of the proposed location in an accounting of the project costs. 00:06:00
I should also note that in the application it's noted that the district would be responsible or wishes to and would be responsible 00:06:06
for the cost associated with a ribbon cutting ceremony. 00:06:10
So that concludes the brief staff presentation. And again, Miguel Rodriguez from the Port is here. And if it's the commission's 00:06:16
pleasure, I can have him provide the presentation. 00:06:21
Welcome. 00:06:37
I think a lot of it was covered in the staff report. Again, commissioners, thank you for the opportunity to be here and present 00:06:44
this project that was proposed by both the City Council and members of the committee of actually members of the committee on CBF 00:06:51
or both the Wyndham City Council as well as the Oxford Harbor Commission. So my name is Miguel Rodriguez, I'm the community 00:06:58
average manager for the park and and I'm here to present to you. 00:07:06
More a little bit more of the vision and the specifics of this particular project. 00:07:13
We're gonna move to the next slide, please. 00:07:18
OK, it's right here. All right, awesome. 00:07:21
Oh, there it is. OK. 00:07:28
Again, just to reiterate the the location is at the Winami Wharf Plaza. A lot of the determination for that particular location as 00:07:29
a setting is due to its proximity to the port entrance as well as the original Bardsworth location which actually stemmed from 00:07:37
that particular. 00:07:45
Place. And so this is not only to commemorate Mr. Richard Bard, right, but also that particular. 00:07:54
Contribution right to this community, which has yielded some of the most, probably the most significant economic engine that has 00:08:03
been, has been in existence in Ventura County as Mr. Perez. 00:08:10
You got to write, Mr. Fritz said, Or mentioned, Actually the statute would be 11 feet high, which would be 7 feet tall, as well as 00:08:18
a four foot pedestal. 00:08:24
And here's a little bit more of like the actual sculture would be Mr. Richard Bart holding the the shovel. And so just in terms of 00:08:32
reference of like a regular person's about 5857 and so the the statue would be above the. 00:08:40
The the regular person's stature, right? Just to give it more significance and and also for impact as well. 00:08:50
In terms of the timeline, we submitted white papers to the CBF committee in February of 2022. 00:08:58
Throughout February to June of 2022, I did a very extensive background check along with some of the interns at the port. We looked 00:09:05
through a lot of the archives, both at the Ventura County Museum as well as the University here Channel Islands. We started the 00:09:13
preparation of the application in June of 2022 and then from there we did an artist search. 00:09:21
We commissioned an artist who had been tasked with this as well. As you know, throughout the timeline, you can see that it was 00:09:30
originally intended to be brought and installed by the 150th year celebration of Ventura County. Unfortunately, we missed that 00:09:37
particular deadline because of this requirement for this particular review. But however that also gives us an opportunity to, you 00:09:45
know, continue through this process. 00:09:53
Formally and also to ensure that there is continuity as well as that we go through the appropriate channels to to execute this. 00:10:01
An just finally, this is more or less what the statue is looking like. They haven't stood it up yet because they weigh so much, so 00:10:13
they're refining a lot of the details. But it's a youthful Richard Bard with a dream. There is a book called The Troubled Dream 00:10:21
that it pretty much depicts a lot of the history behind Richard Bard's vision. The concrete pedestal. As you could see in the 00:10:29
details, it would need a 2 foot anchor as well as a four foot in height. So it would probably be about. 00:10:37
The size of the podium as well. 00:10:45
And sculpture would be anchored to the podium because it's about 1000, a £1000 in weight so. 00:10:47
That pretty much. 00:10:55
It's into perspective the project. I'd be happy to entertain any questions regarding the application as well. 00:10:56
And you have in your packets the application that was submitted. 00:11:03
Does the Commission have any questions for? 00:11:07
Only questions will be taken at this time. Comments and discussion will be heard later. 00:11:10
One question, did you have other locations that you considered for this pistachio as well? 00:11:24
This particular project was considered by both the City Council committee and the Port Committee, and during this particular 00:11:31
process, a location which was identified there was the one that was pretty much agreed upon by both bodies. 00:11:40
Yeah. But that my question is did you also have other locations you were considering there were other locations that were 00:11:49
considered for other monuments? 00:11:53
For example, this is part of part one of a three-part process where there will be a monument. 00:11:58
For the Seabees, as well as one more monument for the Chumash. Whether those are installed, you know, at the same time or at 00:12:07
different times depends on on the allocation of the funding from both committees as well. But. 00:12:14
That is the vision. The other locations that were identified were submitted to the joint committee through a white paper back in 00:12:21
2022, but this is the location that was identified for Mr. Bard's monument. 00:12:29
So that's interesting. I didn't know about the other statues or monuments that you were considering. It's just and the only reason 00:12:38
I'm asking is that that is one of the questions that came up a lot about, well, what about other locations? And so we'll talk more 00:12:44
about that. I just curious if you had other locations that you would consider? 00:12:49
Did you have a question? 00:12:58
Umm. 00:13:01
I'll speak to you a little bit more during deliberation. 00:13:03
Are there any public comments on this? 00:13:08
I have two written public comments. 00:13:13
And start the first one. Hello. We thank you for your efforts to keep Port Hueneme beautiful. We would like to request that you do 00:13:19
not put up a statue in the flagpole location. It is one of the most naturally beautiful locations in Port Hueneme and many come to 00:13:25
watch the sunset in the evenings. We feel that a statue will only distract from that beauty. Maybe a more appropriate location 00:13:32
would be near the Port Wyoming Museum. Thank you so much for your consideration. The Babbitt family. 00:13:39
And the next one is. 00:13:47
In regards to the Bard statue, no. Should be in a park with greenery. Note this may be a duplicate vote. Sorry. 00:13:49
That was from Patricia Witt Tree. 00:13:57
That concludes the written public comments. 00:14:00
And we're going to call up some in person public comments right now. 00:14:04
Miss Rooney, would you like to go first? 00:14:19
Oh, oh. Mr. 00:14:21
Good evening. 00:14:32
I'm happy to be here. 00:14:36
And I'm hoping for good results as far as Richard Bard's statue is concerned. 00:14:38
As someone who has worked on the waterfront. 00:14:43
My whole life, 52 years on the waterfront and 34 years as a harbor Commission. 00:14:45
It has always been my dream to honor the man who built this port. 00:14:51
And the values that he had, I think are very important for us to keep in mind. 00:14:55
Thomas Bart who built the the. 00:15:01
He built that Wharf, I think, initially at 700 feet, then he had to double it to 1400 feet, then he had to double it to or triple 00:15:05
it to 2100 feet because. 00:15:09
It was so necessary at that time to have trade here on the water. 00:15:13
And one thing led to another. 00:15:17
And Thomas in a letter that you that his public. 00:15:19
He basically says to Richard listen. 00:15:23
We we're blessed to be wealthy. 00:15:26
And we should do something with our philanthropy. 00:15:30
We should do something that would raise up the living conditions of every man, regardless of his current condition. 00:15:33
That was basically the Causeway of the letter, and he wanted to build something a civic entity. 00:15:40
That would, for generation after generation, provide opportunity and prosperity for our community. 00:15:46
Those were the values that those two men. 00:15:51
That's the reason that port. 00:15:54
Also as you know. 00:15:56
When he when he started to build it and was almost complete, World War 2 broke out. 00:15:59
So the United States. 00:16:05
And Admiral Ben. 00:16:07
Do not have enough longshoremen. 00:16:10
Or didn't have really any longshoremen to supply the Seabees in the Pacific. 00:16:13
So he went to Harry Bridges, Who was the coast? Big coast leader, Pacific West Coast leader. 00:16:17
And said we need longshoremen to supply our Seabees in the PAC. 00:16:23
Harry Bridges said. Yes, let's win the war. 00:16:28
And that's why that longshore local has been there all of these years. 00:16:31
To supply the Navy, and we have the longshoremen rather. 00:16:36
Have been active in every. 00:16:40
Since World War 2, every police action since World War. 00:16:43
Everything that has made the commercial port stronger has also made our United States Navy stronger. 00:16:47
All the equipment that we have, all the manpower that we have goes to the United States Navy in time of national emergency. 00:16:53
And that's the type of synergy and cooperation that we have between the two entities that are there. 00:17:00
And you have to think. 00:17:06
Well, let me go back I think a little bit during World War 2. 00:17:08
It came out in a national magazine that said that the United States Navy had gotten the most efficient harbor in the world. 00:17:12
To fight during the World War 2. 00:17:19
And that's been the type of board it's been ever since then. It's it has broken every record of tonnage and everything else for 00:17:22
supplying our military in. 00:17:26
Oh, am I done? 00:17:32
Why don't you let me complain, you know. 00:17:41
So. 00:17:45
What I'm trying to say is that, you know, here we have an individual who is considered one of no Ventura County's leading citizen 00:17:46
because of what he did for this community. 00:17:51
Now the city of Hueneme and the port have. 00:17:56
An agreement. 00:18:00
That when the port makes money, the city makes. 00:18:01
For years we've been providing the city with thousands and thousands of dollars, actually millions now of dollars that come from 00:18:05
the port. 00:18:08
And the port would not be there without Richard Bard. So at one time or another in your lifetime, you got to recognize the person 00:18:11
who was responsible for this. Not $1.00 of public money was used to build that port. Not $1.00 of public money is used to run that 00:18:17
port. It is self-sufficient. It is. It is the most. 00:18:23
It is the biggest economic engine in Ventura County and it happens to be right in your backyard and you're getting all of the 00:18:30
benefits that it provides. 00:18:34
All of the benefits it provides and all that we're asking. 00:18:39
Is recognize the guy that did it. 00:18:43
You have recognition that do recognition to the individual that did this, that has provided millions of dollars, thousands of. 00:18:46
You know, there was thousands and thousands of people working during Vietnam here, also during World War 2 and every other police 00:18:54
action and war that's that's transpired. 00:18:58
You can't take that away from him. You can't ignore what he did. 00:19:03
He has provided opportunity and prosperity for thousands of people in this. 00:19:08
And. 00:19:14
If you will look at the GDP, the Gross domestic product of Ventura. 00:19:15
The only reason, the only reason that it has gone up and not down, is because of what the portaway name is providing to this 00:19:20
county. 00:19:25
Every city in this county receives millions of dollars. 00:19:30
Due to the. 00:19:34
The 2.2 billion and more that the port does provides millions of tax dollars to every city, to Oxnard, to you guys, everybody. 00:19:36
I mean, how do you, how do you say, well, I'm going to ignore that guy, He didn't exist, you know? 00:19:46
You got it. 00:19:50
Recognize that individual what he did. 00:19:53
He. 00:19:55
A tremendous thing for us. 00:19:56
A tremendous thing for me. Tremendous thing for you. Same thing. 00:19:58
If you go and look at your records at the amount of money that the port has provided over the years. 00:20:02
You know, and this guy would not only that, he was a hero. 00:20:07
He was a three time veteran. 00:20:10
Served in three wars. 00:20:12
Unbelievable. 00:20:14
Dec. 00:20:16
You know you just can't ignore something like that, and I beg you not to. 00:20:17
Ignore it, I beg you. 00:20:22
I I'd get on my knees because that man deserves our recognition. 00:20:24
He did so much for this community and this county. 00:20:29
He deserves it. We just cannot deny it to him. 00:20:32
You know, I could go on and on about all the things that that he's responsible for. You know, we have a huge agreement with you 00:20:36
guys that goes on for years and years providing money. You also. 00:20:41
It's just I'm so assionate about this and I just kind of get lost in the weeds. 00:20:48
But it's just something that time. 00:20:53
You know it's time has. 00:20:55
Its time has come that we recognize. 00:20:58
And you know, we've talked to your City Council and they've. 00:21:01
And we basically on the same page about this whole thing, about maintaining it, keeping it clean. 00:21:05
And the location of it is, I think, appropriate. 00:21:12
Don't forget that we we did the break. 00:21:15
We fixed that up, We did the promenade, put it there. There's even a plaque there at that at that point, entering the promenade 00:21:18
talking about how the Port of Winemie did that for the community. 00:21:23
How many people take that walk, you know, every day? Probably. You know dozens and enjoy it. 00:21:29
And that's why they'll walk by there and also see the statue of Richard. 00:21:34
You know, the portaway Nimi has always been a right spot on the horizon for this county, and it will continue to be. 00:21:39
But it will never, ever get the recognition it needs unless we get the support of people like yourselves. 00:21:45
At the commencement when Richard Bart stuck the shovel in. 00:21:51
He. 00:21:54
The people of this community to thank for this. 00:21:57
Because they believed in him and they supported him at that time. 00:22:02
The City of Vent. 00:22:06
Was crying for this port. 00:22:07
They were raising money to get a bond issue going so they could have the port in vent. 00:22:09
Now where would you be if they would have put that in Ventura? 00:22:15
You would not be getting the damn penny like you are now, you know. And what happened this? The city of Oxnard stood up. 00:22:18
And their Chambers of Commerce and said no, no, no, we're going to raise money too. We're not going to allow this to go to 00:22:27
Ventura. 00:22:30
So they fought to keep it here. 00:22:33
And lucky for us, I would never have been a Commissioner. 00:22:35
You know, we would never have. 00:22:38
Great. Great opportunity here to recognize this individual. 00:22:41
You know sometimes you got to dig deep and look in your your own heart. You know if. 00:22:46
You had a relative that had done all that you certainly want him to recognize. 00:22:50
You know. 00:22:55
I'm going to ask you to. 00:22:56
You know, think outside the box. 00:22:59
Understand how important this is going to be. 00:23:01
And it actually, I have another vision. You know, the port of winemia has always been a port of dreams. I said it was a dream to 00:23:04
to Richard Bart. It's been a dream to us to continue to keep it in good shape. 00:23:09
And provide economic vitality for our community. 00:23:14
But the other dream is that more things can be done. 00:23:18
More jobs can be created. We're not going to stop where we are right now. 25,000 jobs and building. 00:23:22
Millions of dollars for our community. We're not going to stop. 00:23:28
Today I went to what they call Aceo Round. 00:23:31
And you know. 00:23:35
All those ce. 00:23:36
Want to do what we're doing, but they can't do it. They they're not providing the type of venue that we have. They're not 00:23:38
providing the type of money that we are providing for our communities. They're not providing the type of jobs that we're providing 00:23:44
for our communities. We have family sustaining jobs and why we call them that is because it's a good wage, a living wage, and not 00:23:51
only that, guess what, It comes with good medical benefits. That's family sustaining. 00:23:57
And. 00:24:03
In a county where we have over 30,000 people living in poverty, one in four children going hungry. 00:24:05
Our job is to break those numbers down and continue providing those families sustaining jobs. That's what we want to do. Those are 00:24:12
the values that Richard and Thomas Bart had. Those were their values. 00:24:18
Opportunity and prosperity. And we live by those values. And I'm very proud that we have harbor commissioners that believe in 00:24:24
that, in harbor commissioners that will stick their neck out to get those things done for our community. Before we do anything, 00:24:31
first we think about the impact to our community. Will it impact the environment? Will it impact the roads, whatever it may be. 00:24:38
But I appreciate you listening to me and I just, I just can't tell you it's just it is the equitable thing to do. 00:24:46
It is the equitable thing to. 00:24:53
To honor this man in that. 00:24:56
Because it's going to help your city. 00:24:58
My dream is for your city to improve its museum and we'll help you improve your museum. My dream is for you to have availability 00:25:01
to the CB Museum. 00:25:05
So that what you do now, but I want you to have that. I want you to have the museum updated. 00:25:10
I want you to have that statue, and then I want you to have the Bard. 00:25:15
I want you to have the Bard Mansion as a place that your community can go and enjoy themselves. Have dinner, have lunch, and 00:25:20
that's my dream and I'm not going to give that dream up easily. 00:25:24
And hopefully someday I'm going to be standing here telling you, guess what, I just went to Washington and we got it going. 00:25:29
And we basically did. I was in Washington about two weeks. 00:25:35
And I talked to the Department of the Navy and I said, listen, we need to get some of that stuff back that we lost during the war 00:25:39
for our community, including the Bard Mansion. 00:25:43
You know what he said to me? 00:25:47
You know what, Jess? You're. 00:25:49
And so that's going to be my dream to work for that, give it to. 00:25:53
And your people and your community. 00:25:57
And if you have any questions for me, I know I've been long winded and you've been very kind to listen. 00:26:00
But. 00:26:06
The port has been very long winded too. It's been there a long time. It's been there for 80 years, almost 90, providing those 00:26:07
jobs, providing those benefits. 00:26:11
Do you know that? 00:26:17
Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Herrera. 00:26:19
Put me into, put me in jail, Put me in jail. One last thing you know. 00:26:22
When the poverty here in Oxnard was very, very low, you know what the port did? They went to the. 00:26:27
Employment development, Martin and said give us all the people that are on unemployment, we are going to put them to work. So 00:26:33
every week we got a list from the unemployment department, the EDD, they came to the court and they went to work, they got off the 00:26:38
public dole and they were earning real money. That's the kind of things that this board brings to this community. Please don't 00:26:44
ever forget that. Thank you. 00:26:49
Mary Ann. 00:27:00
How much time do I have? 00:27:02
3 minutes. OK. Thank you. I'll stay within 3 minutes. Thank you very much, honorable commissioners. My honor to be here tonight. 00:27:04
I'm a commissioner at the Port of Winemie. I just wanted to give you a little context of some of the language that was in the 00:27:09
presentation. You may or may not know about that. 00:27:14
The Community Benefit Fund was originally designed so that the Board of the Harbor Commissioners and the City Council members 00:27:19
could work together. 00:27:23
On projects that benefited the city and benefited the port. And this was supposed to be a fun process that we could come up with 00:27:28
ideas and wonderful things to work together on. 00:27:33
And So what came out of that in fiscal year 2021 was the idea of putting monuments, putting permanent fixtures in your community 00:27:38
that honored and celebrated all of the people who supported. 00:27:45
Both the port and the city of Winemie. And so that's where this monument idea came about originally was three years ago we started 00:27:52
talking about it. 00:27:56
The process goes through. 00:28:01
Board of Harbor Commissioners goes through the City Council. We get together, our two representatives come together to talk about 00:28:05
everything and then go back to our respective boards, flush it all out, talk about it again, get back together again and come up 00:28:11
with a with a collaborative decision. 00:28:16
And so that's where this monument came about and location wise there were multiple locations that were discussed. 00:28:22
Through both boards and both committees it came up with this was probably going to be the best location. And so all that started. 00:28:30
Prior to the process that we're going through this evening. So we we've been kind of working through all this and then. 00:28:39
While we're the applicant, it really is both agencies are asking for approval of this. We just happen to be the ones that 00:28:47
submitted the paperwork. But the city and the Harbor District have been working together as part of this process. So I I think 00:28:54
that that might be helpful. You know, as you deliberate, I agree with Commissioner Herrera that it is a. 00:29:02
Time for us to honor the people that help both of our our agencies and both the city and the port. And we do have one of the 00:29:11
representatives of the family, the Bird family, here with us tonight who has been very passionate about recognizing his family 00:29:18
legacy too. So he's with us here tonight. So I ask you to ask questions. 00:29:25
And and improve that this moves forward to the City Council and I hope that you give the recommendation for it to move forward. 00:29:33
Thank you very much. 00:29:37
Joan. 00:29:44
Good evening, Chair, Vice Chair and Commissioners. I appreciate the gentleman's passion about the statue, and I hope he supports 00:29:50
the Chumash statue as. 00:29:54
As passionately as this one. 00:29:59
Don't disagree about having a monument to Mr. Bard. I do disagree with the location. I think that it should be located either at 00:30:03
the museum as was mentioned earlier, or perhaps at one of the port buildings. 00:30:10
I don't think that the location of that location considering how big this statue is, is. 00:30:18
Really quite appropriate. 00:30:27
I also don't know that the citizenry has had enough information to weigh in on this. 00:30:29
I just learned about this and that's my fault, but I do hope you consider. 00:30:36
Very carefully the location, not the not the installation of the statue because I think that's a good monument, but the location I 00:30:42
don't think is is appropriate. Thank you. 00:30:47
Steven. 00:30:55
Thank you for having me and letting me speak. 00:31:01
My name is Steven Gama. I'm here as a resident. I live very close to here. I work at the port of Winemie. 00:31:04
And I love working at the Port of Miami. And I agree with many of. 00:31:11
Commissioner Herrera has said, although I missed half of the statement because the notice said 6:30. 00:31:16
That I saw. 00:31:23
On Facebook, did they say 630? 00:31:25
OK anyways. 00:31:30
So a couple weeks ago or maybe not too long ago. 00:31:32
Responsibility is to escort non twick card holders into the. 00:31:37
You know, it's up there a week, maybe two weeks ago, I'm not sure. And they were. 00:31:41
Taking all these trees out and I said no, this is what must be where the statue is gonna go. It's a perfect spot and it really is 00:31:46
a perfect spot. 00:31:50
And. 00:31:54
Come to find out. 00:31:56
I hear it's an 11 foot statue and it's going to go down at the beach. 00:31:58
And I think. 00:32:03
Kind of like your neighbor buying a statue and saying can I put it in your front yard? 00:32:05
I mean, I think the statue. 00:32:10
Import. 00:32:14
But I think it needs to be put on the port property. 00:32:15
You know there's a. 00:32:20
Big time surfer named Butch Towers and if somebody proposed to put a statue of him down on the beach, I think there would be 00:32:21
overwhelming support of it. 00:32:25
The Bard family. 00:32:31
Road made after Lombard. 00:32:34
There's a school named after him. There's a monument to the Bard family right near the Bard Mansion. 00:32:36
And there's other. I think there's a few others. 00:32:44
Mentioned, you know, honoring the family. So I. 00:32:48
Don't have a problem with the the port spending their money on a 11 foot statue, but I think it belongs on their property and. 00:32:52
The best. 00:33:00
Fought for. It is right there at the corner of Market and. 00:33:01